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Written Answers

Volume 345: debated on Wednesday 15 March 1939

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Written Answers

League Of Nations

asked the Prime Minister how many nations have resigned, or given notice to resign, from the League of Nations since its formation; how many nations are now in debt to the League; and what proportion of the total annual subscriptions now received is paid by the British Empire?

The answers to the first and second parts of the question are 12 and 19 respectively, and to the third part 27.

Unemployment

Wandsworth (Statistics)

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will state the number of unemployed men, women and juveniles registered at each of the Employment Ex changes within the Metropolitan Borough of Wandsworth in June, September, December and March, 1936, 1937, and 1938, and for each of the three months of the present year?

The table below shows for the Tooting Employment Exchange, the only Exchange in the Metropolitan Borough of Wandsworth, the numbers of unemployed men, women and juveniles on the registers at the dates in question, except March, 1939, for which figures are not yet available.

Date.Men, aged 18 and over.Women, aged 18 and over.Juveniles, aged 14-17.Total, aged 14 and over.
1936.
23rd March2,736992643,792
22nd June2,004656432,703
21st September2,138511602,709
14th December2,461481482,990
1937.
15th March2,442683693.194
21st June1,890478582,426

*13th September—

Old Basis2,121505872,713
New Basis2,015450832,548
13th December2,932651543.637
1938.
14th March3,2371,031824.350
13th June2,7991,0921053,996
12th September2,8961,0871304,113
1939.
12th December3,7291.323735,125
16th January4,0221,4171445,583
13th February3,8041,5961125,512

* In September, 1937, a revised procedure for counting the unemployed was introduced under which persons on the registers subsequently found to have been in employment on the day of the count are excluded from the figures. The count of the unemployed on 13th September, 1937, was made on both the old and the new basis.

Instructional Centres

asked the Minister of Labour whether he can state the districts where are situated the 20 camps known as reconditioning centres formed with the object of providing occupation without technical training for the unemployed;

Centre.Residential Instructional Centres Address.Number of men in training on 9th March, 1939.
AllerstonLow Dalby, Thornton-le-Dale, Yorkshire154
BourneBourne, Lincolnshire220
BrechfaTreglog, Llansawel, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire81
Coed-y-BreninCoed-y-Brenin, Nr. Ganllwyd, Dolgelly, Merionethshire127
CranwichCranwich, Thetford, Norfolk143
CulfordWordwell Culford, Nr. Bury St. Edmunds, SuffolkI64
DoveyDovey, Ceinws, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire169
GlenbranterNr. Strachur, Argyllshire133
Glenfinart.Ardentinny,By Dunoon Argyllshire133
GlentressGlentress, Eshiels, Nr. Peebles173
GwydyrCapel Curig, Bettws-y-Coed, Caernarvonshire166
HaldonKennford, Devon157
HamsterleyHamsterley, Bishop Auckland, Co. Durham179
High LodgeHigh Lodge, Nr. Brandon, Suffolk195
KershopefootKershopefoot, Newcastleton, Roxburghshire125
KielderKielder, Hexham, Northumberland196
KnapdaleDaill, Nr. Lochgilphead, Argyllshire146
Langdale EndLangdale End, Scarborough, Yorkshire139
RendleshamButley, Woodbridge, Suffolk184
West ToftsWest Tofts, Thetford, Norfolk141
Total3,125

Public Assistance, Stoke-On-Trent

and what is the total number of persons attending?

I presume that my hon. Friend refers to the Instructional Centres. The following table gives the required information.Fenton, and Longton areas, respectively, are in receipt of extra winter relief; what is the percentage of the total applicants for assistance; and what is the average percentage throughout the country?

The latest date in respect of which information is available is 21st November last. On that date in the Unemployment Assistance Board's administrative area of Stoke-on-Trent, which covers the towns of Fenton and Longton, the number of winter additions authorised was 1,656, equivalent to 51½ per cent, of the number of assessments for unemployment allowances then cur rent. The corresponding percentage for the whole country was 501½.

Smith asked the Minister of Labour whether he can state the percentage of applicants in the country for assistance who receive more than the scales and the percentage in the Hanley administrative area and the Stoke, Fenton and Longton areas, respectively; and what is the average paid nationally and the average in the Hanley administrative area and the Stoke, Fenton and Longton areas, respectively?

Such information as is available is based on a sample of cases current at the beginning of October, 1938. This sample indicates that in the Board's administrative district of Hanley, which includes the Hanley and Stoke-on-Trent administrative areas (the latter covering the towns of Fenton and Longton) approximately 431½per cent, of assessments included a discretionary addition of an average value of 3s. 9d. a week. The corresponding figures for the whole country were 43 per cent, and 3s. 5d. respectively. While the sample gives reasonably accurate results in relation to a district as a whole, it is not sufficiently large to be used as a basis for separate statistics for individual areas.

Sudan And Italian East Africa

asked the Prime Minister what reports he has received upon conditions prevailing along the unratified frontier between the Sudan and Abyssinia; and whether he is satisfied that no raids are taking place, and that successful efforts are being made to pre vent the capture of slaves in this region?

According to the reports received by my Noble Friend, conditions prevailing along the unratifed frontier between the Sudan and Italian East Africa are generally satisfactory. No in cursions or raids have occurred on any serious scale; consequently special efforts to prevent the capture of slaves have not been required. Minor incidents have occurred between tribes belonging to the Sudan and Italian East Africa which is inevitable in such areas. Most of these incidents have been amicably settled or are under process of settlement between the local authorities concerned.

Spanish Ships, Hull

asked the Home Secretary whether he is aware that the crews of several Spanish vessels lying in Hull are in a destitute condition; and what steps he intends to take to prevent these men becoming a charge on the taxpayers and ratepayers of this country?

The crews of these vessels are residing on the ships and no application has been made for permission for the men to land. My right hon. Friend's in formation is that some of the men are still receiving wages and others are being maintained from savings which are being shared. The question of what the future arrangements are to be is still under investigation, and my hon. and gallant Friend can be assured that due attention will be paid to the considerations which he mentions in his question.

Trade And Commerce

British Shipbuilding (Steel Prices)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what price is charged by British steel manufacturers to shipbuilders in this country and comparative prices charged to foreign shipbuilders?

The current net price for plates to shipbuilders in this country is £9 15s. 6d. per ton. I am informed that, in general, higher prices are charged by the British steelmakers to shipbuilders in foreign countries.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that manufacturers of auxiliary ship's machinery in this country are being seriously prejudiced in obtaining orders agaist foreign competition by reason of the high price now being charged for steel; and that the price of steel bars has risen from £8 15s. per ton to £14 5s.; whether this is due, wholly or in part, to the existence of a ring of steel manufacturers in this country; how prices, in this country, of steel compare with the American export price; and whether any, and what, steps are proposed to be taken to prevent this prejudice to machinery manufacturers?

Apart from a case to which my hon. and learned Friend has drawn his attention, my right hon. Friend has received no complaints regarding the effect of the price of steel upon the competitive position of manufacturers of ships' auxiliary machinery. The price of steel bars varies according to quality. The present price of Siemens Martin acid steel bars (0.25 carbon) is £14 4s. per ton, subject to a loyalty rebate of 15s. per ton, giving a net price of £13 9s. per ton, which compares with a net price of £10 10s. per ton in 1933. My right hon. Friend has no information as to the American export price of these bars. The net price of ordinary mild steel bars is £10 17s. per ton, which compares with a net price of £8 per ton in 1933. He is informed that the c.i.f. price of similar bars of American origin is about £11 5s. per ton. As my hon. and learned Friend will be aware, changes in the prices of the principal iron and steel products are made only after consultation with the Import Duties Advisory Committee.

Retail Trading (Gift Coupons)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that shopkeepers are complaining at the increasing loss of legitimate retail trade because manufacturers of soap and other household commodities are giving away in return for coupons, free of charge, goods not of their own manufacture that are ordinarily sold in shops; and will he take steps to see that those manufacturers make free gifts of their own productions, or, as an alternative, reduce the price of their commodities to the public?

My right hon. Friend is aware that the gift coupon system has at times led to complaints, but he is not aware that these complaints have latterly increased. The Departmental Committee "which, in 1933, investigated the matter, came to the conclusion (Cmd. 4385) that the practices which formed the subject of its inquiry were not detrimental to the public interest and did not call for any legislative intervention. He sees no reason to disagree with that view.

Herring Industry (Russian Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will state the value of fish imported into the United Kingdom from Russia in 1937 and 1938, respectively; what was the value of British fish exported to Russia in each of the two years in question; and whether, in view of the state of the British herring industry, he will use his best efforts to secure that Russia, especially in any new trade agreement, agrees to take a greater proportion of our salted herring?

During the years 1937 and 1938, the value of fish of all kinds imported into the United Kingdom and con signed from the Soviet Union amounted to£1,313,000 and £1,442,000, respectively, while exports of fish from the United Kingdom to the Soviet Union were valued at £7,000 and £28,000 respectively. It should be noted that a large proportion of the imports of fish consigned from the Soviet Union consists of salmon from Japanese canneries situated in Soviet territory.As regards the last part of the question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given on the 28th February to questions on the subject of the herring trade.

Mercantile Marine

Medical Supplies

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that many large ocean-going British ships do not carry the latest proved drugs for combating sepsis; and whether he will consider some alteration in the regulations so that these are carried, with instructions for their use?

My right hon. Friend is causing full inquiries to be made into this matter and he will consider whether the existing Regulations need to be amended.

Wireless Messages (Accounting)

asked the Postmaster-General whether arrangements have yet been completed for accounts between British. ships and colonial land stations in respect of wireless messages sent from such ships to such stations to be based on sterling; whether the surcharge on such messages sent to Gibraltar and stations of Cable and Wireless, Limited, has been abolished; and, if not, at what date it is proposed in the case of such stations and, in particular, Gibraltar, to introduce the reduced rate of 8d. per word?

Sterling accounting for wireless messages exchanged between British ships and Aden, Gibraltar and the colonial stations of Cable and Wireless Limited, was brought into operation on the 1st January, 1939; and the surcharge was then abolished. Sterling accounting for this class of traffic was already in operation in Gambia, Gold Coast and the British Solomon Islands. It will be extended to British North Borneo and Hong Kong on the 1st April next. The question of approaching other Colonies on the subject is under consideration.The effect of the abolition of the surcharge in the case of Gibraltar was to reduce the wireless charges from is. 1d. a word to 10d. a word, to which a penny a word has to be added for the delivery charge in Gibraltar. A rate of 8d. a word would only result in cases where specially reduced wireless charges are in operation, as in the United Kingdom.

Transport

Motor Vehicles Insurance (Third-Party Risks)

asked the Minister of Trans port whether he is aware that many thousands of motorists are still uninsured against third-party risks; that frequently, injured cyclists and pedestrians are victimised arising from this fact; and what steps he proposes to take in the matter?

I am unable from official sources to estimate the number of uninsured motorists, but according to the evidence given to the Committee on Compulsory Insurance the cases where third parties fail to receive compensation are not numerous. Legislation to implement the committee's recommendations is under consideration.

Road Schemes, Lancashire

on asked the Minister of Transport whether he will state the amount of money spent during 1937–1938 on making new roads, widening, straightening, and generally adapting roads to modern requirements in Lancashire, giving separate figures for each year?Mr. Burgin: Expenditure on major improvements and new construction of roads in Lancashire amounted during the year ended 31st March, 1937, to £862,000 and during the year ended 31st March, 1938, to £1,506,000.

Benbecula Island

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a statement regarding the condition and proposals for early improvements of roads in Benbecula Island?

The existing Class I road in Benbecula is surfaced with gravel and is maintained by the county council in a reasonable condition having regard to traffic requirements and the funds avail able for the purpose. I understand that the county council are preparing a scheme for resurfacing with bituminous material the existing Class I roads in South Uist and Benbecula. I am prepared to consider an application for a grant should the county council submit detailed proposals.

Isle Of Lewis

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the very bad condition of the Milbost and Branahuie road, Point, Isle of Lewis; and can he state what action he is taking, in consultation with the local authority, for its reconstruction?

I am advised that the county council maintain this road in a reasonable condition, having regard to traffic requirements and the limited funds available for the purpose. The initiation of a scheme for its reconstruction rests upon the county council. In the event of their applying for a grant I should be prepared to give the matter consideration.

North Circular Road, Edmonton

asked the Minister of Trans port what is the reason for the delay by his Department in coming to a decision to approve, or otherwise, the widening of the North Circular Road between the Cambridge Arterial Road and Pymmes Park, Edmonton; whether he is aware that provisional approval was given to the general lines of this improvement nearly two years ago, and that full details of plans and estimates were submitted to him on 21st June, 1938, since when no reply has been given; that again on 5th January, 1939, at an interview with the county representatives, a final decision was promised within a few weeks; and will he expedite his decision?

I have informed the county council that the scheme is approved for grant. The delay in announcing a decision has been due to a number of factors including the high proportion of the cost of property acquisition to that of the pro posed road works. Estimates of the cost of the works were not received until the 14th January, 1939, and further explanatory details which were then asked for were only received last month.

Litter On Roadsides

Brown asked the Minister of Transport whether his attention has been drawn to the litter, tins, and broken bottles- thrown out daily and at night by lorry drivers and motorists along the sides of all our country roads to the detriment of people living in the country side and damage to their cattle in fields alongside the roads; and whether he will, by legislation or otherwise, make this a punishable offence?

The throwing of litter from vehicles is a most objectionable and indeed dangerous practice. County councils have power to make by-laws under which this type of conduct is made an offence, and many councils have in fact done so. If my hon. and gallant Friend has any particular case in mind perhaps he will be good enough to bring it to my notice.

Public Service Appointments

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury whether he will make a statement showing the complete range of salaried appointments made to the public service during the last 12 months without effective competition?

Appointments to the public service without recourse to competitive examination or selection are made in certain exceptional circumstances, for example, to professional or technical posts calling for highly specialised qualifications, or to posts in a service taken over by the State with the personnel already serving. Examples of- both these types occurred in 1938 and in so far as the posts are established, particulars will be given in the report which the Civil Service Commissioners will issue in due course for that year.In addition it has been necessary during recent months, in connection with the expansion of the Defence Services, to make a number of special appointments of a purely temporary nature from among persons who have particular experience in the industrial, professional or scientific fields. Wherever practicable the competitive method of appointment has been employed; where it has been departed from, the public interest has been the governing consideration.The preparation of a complete list of all such appointments would involve exhaustive local inquiries, especially by the Defence Departments, which I am reluctant to initiate in present circumstances.

Press Advertisements (Government Expenditure)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he can state the total amount of public expenditure incurred upon Press advertisements from all Departments in the last six months?

The total amount spent by Government Departments on Press advertisements during the six months ended 31st December, 1938, was just under £100,000.

Telephone Service Kiosks

asked the Postmaster-General what is the superficial area inside a telephone kiosk available for instructions and advertisements; and what proportion of this superficial area is now occupied by instructions and advertisements in telephone kiosks in rural areas?

In the present standard type of telephone kiosk, designed for us by Sir Giles Gilbert Scott, R.A., roughly two square feet are available for instruction and tariff cards and a quarter of a square foot for advertisements. The latter space, however, is reserved for publicity matter relating to Post Office services. These spaces are actually so occupied in kiosks in rural areas. In older types of kiosk the spaces for instruction notices and tariff cards are somewhat different but no provision is made in them for publicity matter. In no case are commercial advertisements permitted.

Civil Servants (Legal Actions)

asked the Attorney-General whether he will state the number of actions which have been commenced in each of the last 10 years against employés of Government Departments claiming damages for acts or omissions in the course of their duties; how many of such actions were settled; how many discontinued; in how many cases the plaintiff was successful; and in how many cases the damages awarded or agreed upon were paid by the Department concerned?

There are no statistics available in my Department which would enable me to answer this question. The time and labour involved in collecting the information would be very great and would not in my opinion be justified.

Royal Air Force

Payment On Contracts

asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he is aware of the complaints from contractors regarding delay in receiving payments for work completed, and already passed for payment, by the various aerodromes; and whether he is satisfied that the Accounts Departments are adequately staffed to deal with the increasing volume of work?

I am not aware of com plaints from contractors regarding delay in receiving payment of their claims in cases where they have been passed for payment. The procedure in my Department normally provides for payment of such claims within a few days and the staffs concerned are adequate. Some delay is inevitable in the settlement of claims in which any matters are in dispute, for such claims may involve discussion of technical, contractual, financial or legal matters. With the very heavy programme of building which has had to be carried out at great speed some delay in these claims has been inevitable.I have, however, examined the general question of dealing with this heavy volume of work and steps have been taken to accelerate the handling of the existing volume of work and also the disposal of the very large number of claims which must arise in the future. The matter is being kept under constant review.

Balloons (Destruction By Lightning)

asked the Secretary of State for Air how many balloons belonging to his Department have been destroyed by fire in the air in the years 1937–38 and 1938–39?

Ten balloons were destroyed by fire in the air during 1937–38 as a result of being struck by lightning, and three in 1938-39 from the same cause.

Ration Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Air what are the exact allowances, at both the higher and lower rate, now paid in the Royal Air Force in lieu of rations?

Following is the answer:

Current rates of ration allowance.
OfficersAirmen.
sd.s.d.
Higher rate (A)18.220.3
Higher rate (B)22.226.3
Lower rate (C)1014
Personal rate (D)13.917.9
Leave rate (E)2323

  • (A)Issued to personnel living off the station for other than private reasons who are normally enabled to take their meals in their own homes.
  • (B)Issued to personnel who qualify for A but who, for service reasons, are prevented from taking a specified number of meals per month in their own homes.
  • (C)For personnel who would normally receive the standard ration but prefer cash in lieu.
  • (D)For personnel living on the station who are entitled to the personal ration, but who do not draw any part of their ration entitlement in kind.
  • Note.—The difference of approximately 4d. between officers and airman in the first four rates shown above is due to an element for supper in the case of airmen.

    Accidents

    asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he can state, in the case of lives lost through accidents to military aircraft during each of the last three years, what relationship such losses bear to the number of machines used, and miles flown?

    It would not be in the public interest for me to make the comparison for which the hon. Member asks, but I would refer him to the statement I made in regard to accidents, in the course of the Debate on Air Estimates on the 9th March.

    Anglo-Italian Agreement

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, following the conclusion of the Anglo-Italian Agreement, any contemplated British defence works in the Mediterranean or Red Sea have been abandoned or suspended?

    Kenya (Land Alienation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he will request the Governor of Kenya Colony to supply him with quarterly returns giving particulars in each case of Natives and Indians removed from the highlands of Kenya; the persons, with their nationality, in whose favour the land is alienated; and to include also both the numbers of Natives to be removed and of those Natives whose appeals against removal have been upheld?

    I am not aware of any proposals to remove Indians from the highlands of Kenya. As regards Natives, I assume that the hon. Member refers to those affected by the recent legislation. I am asking the Governor to submit quarterly returns in such cases.

    East Africa (German Trading Methods)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies in view of the German system of trading with East Africa, under which raw materials are bought in exchange for German manufactures, what steps are being taken to watch the effect of such trading methods both on the well-being of the colonies concerned and on the British export trade, particularly in textiles?

    I have recently suggested to the Governors that they should examine the position regarding this form of trade, particularly from the point of view of the effect of this type of trading on customs revenue. As regards the trade in textiles, treaty obligations preclude the introduction of Imperial Preference or the quota system in the East African dependencies and the bulk of the textile trade is now in the hands of Japan. Only very small quantities are imported from Germany.

    Colonial Development Fund

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he will consider the advisability of quarterly reports being issued on the work to date of the Colonial Development Fund?

    A full report on the work of the Colonial Development Fund is published annually. To substitute for this four quarterly reports a year would involve additional expense and put considerable extra work upon the staff concerned. I do not think that the change would be justified

    Colonies And Native Labour

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he has examined all available information regarding the labour conditions and general social standards of workers in the African, West Indian, and East Indian Colonies with a view of promoting and safeguarding the health and security of native communities; and whether he will make an announcement of the Government's policy in regard to these matters?

    The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative. With regard to the second part, the policy of His Majesty's Government in regard to these matters was outlined in the Command Paper 5760 which was presented to Parliament last year in connection with the Colonial and Middle Eastern Services Estimates. It is impossible to make an adequate detailed statement on the matter in reply to a question, but stated briefly and generally, Colonial Governments are encouraged in every possible way to ensure that the conditions under which workers are employed are subject to adequate Government supervision and to satisfy them selves that all possible steps are taken both by employers and by Government to safeguard the health and well-being of native labour. The necessary services of labour officers, medical officers and others are being steadily developed.

    Royal Navy (Ship Construction Costs)

    asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether he can state the cost of the latest types of battleship, battle cruiser, destroyer, light cruiser, aircraft carrier, and submarine, respectively; what proportion of the cost is due to material, labour, establishment charges, and profit; and what is the annual cost in the case of each type of wages, salaries, victualling, clothing, repairs, maintenance, and other expenses?

    No battleship has been completed since the "Rodney" in 1927 which cost approximately£6,150,000.No battle cruiser has been completed since the "Hood" in 1920, which cost approximately £5,700,000.The following examples illustrate the approximate costs of the latest types of vessels built or completing in the other classes mentioned:Destroyers:The approximate cost of a "K" class destroyer, 1,690 tons, built by contract, is £500,000.Cruisers:"Gloucester" (9,300 tons) of the "Southampton" class, recently built in His Majesty's Dockyard, Devonport, the machinery being supplied by contract, cost approximately £2,000,000. The cost can be divided approximately as follows:

    Percentage.
    Dockyard labour16
    Dockyard material13
    Dockyard Establishment charges10
    Contract work61

    "Hermione" (5.450 tons) of the "Dido" class, building by contract, will cost approximately £1,480,000.

    Aircraft Carriers:

    The "Illustrious" (23,000 tons) now in course of construction by contract will cost about £3,830,000.

    Submarines:

    The "Seal" (1,520 tons) building at His Majesty's Dockyard, Chatham, will cost approximately £430,000, divisible as follows:

    Percentage.
    Dockyard labour39
    Dockyard material17
    Dockyard Establishment charges29
    Contract work15

    The "Triton" (1,095 tons) built by contract, cost approximately £350,000.

    "Unity" class submarines (540 tons) built by contract, cost on an average about £205,000 each.

    A division of costs over the several headings mentioned is not available in respect of vessels built by contract.

    The foregoing figures are exclusive of the cost of first outfit and reserves of guns, torpedoes and ammunition.

    The approximate annual cost for pay, victualling, clothing, repairs, maintenance and other expenses (excluding the accruing liability for pensions to personnel) of the various types of vessel mentioned above are:

    £
    Battleship ("Rodney")317,000
    Battle cruiser ("Hood")311,000
    Destroyer ("K" Class)57,000
    Cruiser ("Southampton Class)196,000
    Cruiser ("Dido" Class)130,000
    Aircraft Carrier ("Illustrious")581,000 (a)
    Submarine ("Seal")40,500
    Submarine ("Triton")36,500
    Submarine ("Unity")27,000

    (a) Inclusive of maintenance of aircraft and of air personnel.