asked the Secretary of State for Air why, when in a recent raid on the East of Scotland, a single German raider, flying low, was within a few hundred yards of an anti-aircraft gun which could easily have brought it down, no orders were given to fire, and it was allowed to drop its bombs and clear off without interference?

The aircraft in question appeared suddenly out of low cloud in an area where British aircraft of similar type were known to be present. It passed a light automatic gun at extreme range and was out of range before it could be positively identified as hostile. The men who fire these anti-aircraft guns do not have to wait for orders before engaging hostile aircraft.

Is it not the case that a civilian came out of a car and drew the attention of some soldiers on guard to the fact that a "Jerry" aeroplane was almost sitting on top of the gun, that they all recognised it as a "Jerry," and that it floated around, dropped several bombs and made off without interference of any kind?

I am informed that the aeroplane did not come within 800 yards of the gun.

asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he can make a statement relative to an accident to an aeroplane at Leytonstone on 10th February; whether the relatives of those who lost their lives in consequence will receive compensation; and if so, under which scales?

The aircraft concerned was engaged on a training flight when it crashed. An investigation will be held, but I am advised that the aircraft was so badly damaged that it may not be possible to determine the cause of the accident. I deeply regret that five Civil Defence personnel who were in the building on which the aircraft fell were killed and that the six members of the crew also lost their lives. The question of compensation will be dealt with by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Pensions under the Personal Injuries (Civilians) Scheme, 1941, in the case of the civilians, and under the War Pensions Order applicable to members of the Royal Air Force. I am sure that the House will wish to join me in expressing sympathy with the relatives of those who lost their lives.

Is the very low flying over buildings by some aircraft regarded as operationally necessary?

No, Sir. Low flying is always strictly discouraged in the vicinity of buildings.

If I give the right hon. Gentleman details of where it happens, will he be good enough to look into them?

I shall be very grateful.

asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he will reconsider the contribution made by his Ministry towards training headquarters for local squadrons of the Air Training Corps; when it will be possible to provide cadets with overcoats; and whether gymnastic shoes can be provided without coupons?

The rates of grant pay able to units of the Air Training Corps are at present under review but the information so far available does not suggest that any increase would be justified. As regards the second part of the Question, I regret that general shortage of material precludes the issue of greatcoats. The possibility of issuing some other form of protective clothing is being investigated. As for the last part of the Question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the Reply given to the hon. Member for Melton (Sir W. Everard) on 8th January.

In the review would the Minister see that this magnificent Corps is not held up by small financial considerations?

I am deply interested in the success of this Corps and its welfare, and the point which the hon. Gentleman has brought to my notice is very much in my mind.

asked the Secretary of State for Air on what grounds over 30 members of the Royal Air Force security police have been discharged in Northern Ireland seeing that many of these men gave up good pensionable positions in the police force in order to serve, took the required oath and were appointed for the duration of the war; and whether in justice to these men he will go carefully into this whole matter with a view to their restoration?

I am making inquiries and will communicate with my hon. Friend.

These men have been turned down with no allowance, and is it not too bad that they should suffer through an oversight on the part of the Air Ministry?

asked the Secretary of State for Air whether it is optional for airmen to take one period of 14 days' leave instead of two periods of seven days' leave during the winter?

I have been asked to reply. Yes Sir, so far as the exigencies of the Service permit.

asked the Secretary of State for Air why this country has no dive-bombers in operation, in view of the success that has been reported to have attended their use by the enemy who have employed them in their attacks for a very long time past in various countries?

I have been asked to reply. Priority in the development and production of bombers for the Royal Air Force has necessarily been accorded to types which fulfil the function of the type referred to by my hon. Friend but have other tactical uses as well.

asked the Secretary of State for Air whether he will give the daily rates of pay of sergeant-pilots and the daily rates of pilot officers?

The daily rates of pay of airmen pilots are:

	s.	d.
Sergeant pilot	12	6
Sergeant pilot, after four years' service as such	13	6
Flight sergeant pilot	15	0
Warrant officer pilot	16	6

In addition these ranks receive 6d. a day war pay and will be eligible for the 6d. a day deferred pay recently approved.

The daily rate of pay of a pilot officer of the General Duties Branch is 14s. 6d.

asked the Secretary of State for Air, whether the issue of overcoats and warm winter clothing to members of the Royal Observer Corps has now been completed?

I have been asked to reply. All members at posts now have a waterproof, fleece-lined storm coat, and issues to members at centres are in progress. If by warm winter clothing my hon. Friend means the new battle-dress type of uniform, my right hon. Friend would refer him to the reply which he gave to his hon. Friend the Member for Faversham (Sir A. Maitland) on 20th January.

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that there have been complaints with regard to other things besides over coats, and will he see that all members of this corps have the overcoats that are now being issued?

I cannot say, but I will convey the question to my right hon. Friend.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether it is still to be the policy of His Majesty's Government not to recruit inhabitants of the West Indian Colonies in special West Indian regiments as has been done in all past wars; whether, having regard to the best use of man-power in African and tropical climates, such a policy will be reversed; and what special reasons exist for scattering West Indian volunteers in different British services and regiments rather than collecting them into West Indian regiments from different Colonies?

For various reasons, it has not so far been found practicable to raise special West Indian units. West Indian volunteers with special qualifications are encouraged to join British units in which their qualifications will be most useful.

In view of past experience, would it not be better to put these people into regiments so that they can give good service in African warfare?

That matter is under consideration.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware of the invaluable nursing work done for years in the leper institutions in Trinidad by self-sacrificing nuns, among whom the reverend matron has been conspicuous for her work and for good administration; and whether official recognition or reward will be granted to these workers?

My Noble Friend is aware of the valuable and self-sacrificing work done by the nuns in the Leper Settlement of Trinidad, and I am sure the Trinidad Government gratefully recognises its debt to them on this account.

Will it not be better—as the principle is so well recognised—to give these institutions official recognition rather than lawyers and vested interests?

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether it is intended to grant to the higher-paid members of the Trinidad Civil Service war bonuses now in operation with the lower-paid members?

No, Sir. The war bonus is only given to officers with salaries not exceeding $2,500, that is, slightly over £500, a year.

Does not the Minister consider that a very unjust arrangement? Surely the burden of the increased cost of living falls upon that particular grade?

The practice is universal, both here and there.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies when he expects to be able to make a comprehensive statement regarding the fate of Europeans left behind in Malaya; and whether he is now in a position to say how many have been killed, injured or are missing?

I regret that I cannot yet say when it may be possible to obtain information regarding the European civilians who are in Malaya. As regards casualties to civilians, the European casualties notified up to 14th February numbered 105, comprising 15 killed and died of wounds, 17 wounded, and 73 missing, including 35 believed to have been taken prisoner. Air-raid casualties reported up to 11th February numbered 2,170 killed and 3,955 injured, and these are likely to include some Europeans additional to the numbers I have just given.

asked the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whether his attention has been drawn to the allegations made by Mr. Elliott H. Simpson, an American importer who has recently returned to the United States of America from Penang, criticising the treatment of American citizens by the British authorities in connection with the evacuation arrangements; and whether, in view of the serious effects which these allegations are likely to have on Anglo-American relations, he will cause an immediate inquiry to be held?

I have seen a Press report in that sense. But the information which we have been able to obtain does not confirm the accuracy of Mr. Simpson's story. It would indeed be a matter of deep regret if there was any failure under the pressure of events to show all possible consideration to the United States authorities at Penang at the time of evacuation. I am sure the House will realise that, the circumstances being what they are, an inquiry would be quite impracticable

Would the right hon. Gentleman see that the widest possible publicity is given to this Answer?

Yes, Sir.

Would it not have been desirable to have issued immediately an official denial of these allegations?

asked the Minister of Information what method was adopted to secure the maximum publicity for the Government message regarding shopkeepers' delivery services; and why no advertising was done in the weekly newspapers published in the three Lothian counties?

A variety of methods were employed for securing publicity for the Government message. These included local meetings and posters on retailers' delivery vans. The message was advertised in trade papers, evening papers and local weekly papers selected for the purpose of coverage by the advertising agents advising on the campaign. It was not advertised in the local weekly papers in the three Lothian counties because the Edinburgh and Glasgow evening papers were considered to give sufficient coverage in this area.

Does the right hon. Gentleman recognise the value of these newspapers and recognise that they are much more closely read than the ordinary daily and evening newspapers to which he has referred, and does he realise that these three counties are great dormitory counties for the City of Edinburgh?

Certainly, I will take the hon. Member's advice and draw the attention of our advertising experts to what he has said.

asked the Minister of Information what steps he is taking in view of the public dissatisfaction over the method in which the British Broadcasting Corporation presents the news of the day, especially in regard to its attempts to minimise or evade the gravity of the news issues with which it deals?

I am not aware of any public dissatisfaction with the B.B.C.'s method of presenting news, apart from the inevitable flow of criticism from listeners of whom many hold widely divergent views on how any particular piece of news ought to be handled. I am satisfied that the B.B.C. pursues no policy of attempting to minimise or evade the gravity of news issues.

Does not my right hon. Friend agree that, to mention only two cases, Libya and Malaya, the B.B.C. have given an entirely wrong impression of what was happening by the way in which they have presented the news?

I think the presentation of the news varies from time to time. It is as hard to produce a news bulletin as to edit a newspaper, and the quality of each issue of a newspaper differs, but I think the criticisms made in the House are an encouragement to the B.B.C. to do better.

Can my right hon. Friend tell the House why it was that there was a delay of 10 hours on Sunday before the people of this country and the British Empire were told of the fall of Singapore?

That does not arise out of the Question.

Has my right hon. Friend heard any adverse comment on the B.B.C's. method of interspersing comment into the middle of official communiqués?

I have not, but I have noticed it myself on one or two occasions. I am in a delicate position, but I have stressed to the B.B.C. the importance of giving the plainest possible news.

Will my right hon. Friend make inquiries as to the last war commentary issued by the B.B.C., which was calculated totally to mislead the nation?

I shall certainly make those inquiries.

asked the Minister of Information what is the amount of the subsidies now paid by His Majesty's Government for the transmission of news summaries of Parliamentary Debates to interested Colonies: whether he is aware that the only speech mentioned in such news summaries of the Commons Colonial Debate on 20th November last was the official Government reply: and whether this sort of colonial propaganda is to be discontinued during the war?

No subsidies are paid. Colonies receive reports of Parliamentary Debates through normal news channels, including the British Official Wireless Service. The amount of time available for reporting Debates in this service is limited by other needs, but our aim is to give a balanced account of such debates wherever possible.

How could the report be balanced when only one side was reported?

Obviously it was not. I do not mind telling the hon. Member that in this particular case we did not live up to our high standards.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty the arrangements for leave for men serving in the Navy?

Since the reply is rather long, I will, with my hon. Friend's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Could my right hon. Friend arrange that at least these men get leave at the end of their initial training period?

We do our best to meet the conditions. Perhaps my hon. Friend will look at the answer which I shall circulate, and then, if he likes to put a further Question to me, I shall be glad to answer it.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty why, in view of the fact that it was thought necessary to hold a court-martial over the sinking of His Majesty's Ship "Ark Royal," there has been no court-martial or inquiry into the sinking of His Majesty's Ship "Glorious"?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for North Camberwell (Mr. Ammon) on 31st July, 1940, to which I have nothing to add.

May I ask the First Lord whether, as political head, he was in control and responsible for the operations during which the ship was lost, or whether the control was taken out of his hands by the Minister of Defence?

That is an extraordinary question to put to me. The operations that were proceeding when the "Glorious" was lost were under the proper control of the Commander-in-Chief of the area, and he was operating as he should have operated.

That is no answer to my question.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty what arrangements he has made with the Board of Education and local youth committees in order to make known the advantages of joining sea cadet units in various parts of the country?

The two Departments are maintaining constant contact, and area officers have been appointed to super vise the five areas into which Sea Cadet Corps have now been organised. These officers will maintain the closest liaison both with local education authorities and local youth committees.

Does my right hon. Friend realise that boys are being inter viewed this week, and will he seize this opportunity to build up some units which are worthy of the Navy?

I understand that that point is well in mind, and as a result of the conversation I had with my hon. Friend we are paying particular attention to some of the matters he raised.

asked the First Lord, of the Admiralty whether he can give the House the assurance that His Majesty's ships are provided with adequate infra-red photographic equipment for use in conditions of poor visibility?

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him on 25th March, 1941, in answer to a similar Question. Infra-red photographic equipment cannot usefully be employed in the manner suggested.

asked the Minister of Supply whether he is aware that an order has been placed with South African factories for 1,000,000 pairs of Army boots for the Imperial Forces; and why these boots are not being made in British factories?

I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to orders allocated to South Africa by the Eastern Group Supply Council to meet the requirements of Forces operating or stationed in the Eastern Group. It is the considered policy of the Government that such requirements should be supplied so far as possible from countries within the Group, so as to reduce the strain on our shipping resources.

asked the Minister of Supply the name and peace-time address of the civil servant by whose exertions production was maintained in a snowbound Royal Ordnance Factory; and why, in the reports of his successful endeavours, he was described by the pseudonym of Mr. Jones instead of by his proper name?

No, Sir. The individual concerned has expressly asked that his name should not be disclosed. Excellent work was done not only by the officer in question but by the personnel of the factory, the Armed Forces and other public services.

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that in the North and in Scotland factories and works are kept going every winter by great masses of workmen, and nobody ever thinks about them?

asked the Minister of Supply what has been the relation between the premiums paid by the Government and the claims received up to the 31st December, 1941, under the arrangement whereby stocks under the control of the Ministry are insured against fire risks with insurance companies and Lloyds; and, where payments have been made for expenses other than those contained in the premiums, what relation do these bear to the claims received?

The amount of the claims settled up to 31st December last, in respect of insured stocks of raw materials under my control, is roughly 25 per cent. of the total amount of premiums paid to that date. In addition, certain claims were outstanding, and certain heavy claims have since been made. No payments have been made for expenses other than those contained in premiums.

Does not my right hon. Friend consider that it would be a more straightforward policy, if it is desirable to maintain the financial strength of these insurance companies, to pay them a direct subsidy, rather than to carry out this policy of insuring Government stocks?

No, Sir, I could not adopt that policy.

What is the reason for adopting this oblique method, which the public are quite unable to understand?

asked the Minister of Supply how, in view of the paper shortage, newsprint is available for a publication called "Famine" issued by the Peace Pledge Union Information Service?

According to the records of the Paper Control, no paper has been licensed for this publication, and inquiries are being made to ascertain the source of supply of the paper used for this purpose.

Does not my right hon. Friend think, in view of the harmful and mischievous nature of the propaganda contained in this newspaper, that we should have regard, in granting paper supplies, as to whether the product is essential, harmful or helpful to the war effort?

The question of censorship and the advisability or inadvisability of control is at present under consideration.

Is it not a fact that the Minister has stopped the free Press which has done an excellent job of work in the North of England during the last 20 years?

Is it not a fact that control should not be exercised according to the political views of the people concerned, which is solely a matter for the Home Secretary?

asked the Minister of Supply whether instructions have been given that urgent munition production comes before Home Guard training, in view of the number of hours required in the new Order?

Adequate safeguards for cases of this nature are provided in the general instructions issued by the Army Council for the Home Guard.

Are the Government aware that there are very serious doubts on various matters?

No, Sir, I cannot say that I am aware of that.

Is the Minister aware that there is necessarily a difference in treatment in the approach to this problem in shadow factories and in private factories and that there are many anomalies which exist at the present time?

No, Sir, I should have to look into that.

asked the Minister of Supply whether, in view of the issue of 68,902 tons of cigarette and tobacco boards by the Paper Control between 2nd June, 1940, and 29th November, 1941, and the shortage of board and paper material, he will consider taking more active steps to encourage the sale of tobacco and cigarettes loose instead of in packets?

At present ever 20 per cent. of the cigarettes distributed in the United Kingdom are packed in bulk, and every effort is being made in conjunction with the Board of Trade to promote further economies in the use of paper and board for tobacco and cigarettes.

Is the Minister aware that it has taken more than 24 months for steps to be taken to conserve our stocks of board?

No, Sir, I am not aware of that.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether supplementary rations of soap to various classes of workers is contemplated?

Provision has already been made to enable miners at collieries where there are pit-head baths to obtain soap free of the ration for use at such baths. The needs of other groups are under consideration.

Is it not possible to free medicated soap from the restrictions, and, if not, could not arrangements be made to issue coupons against a doctor's certificate?

I will look into that matter.

Does the reply mean that supplementary rations of soap will be available to miners who have to wash at home because there are no pit-head baths at the pit?

I cannot add anything to my reply. As I have said, the needs of other groups are under consideration. Pits which have pit-head baths have soap, and those which have no soap will come under review.

Will the Minister expedite this decision as quickly as possible?

Could not a uniform soap ration be granted in the case of those pits which have no pit-head baths?

That is what I meant when I said that the needs of other groups are under consideration.

Is the Minister considering the advisability of giving more soap to people living in London?

There is a Question on the Order Paper dealing with that point.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether he can arrange to increase the soap ration in the area of the Metropolitan Water Board on account of the excessive hardness of the water?

ND, Sir.

Does not the Minister consider that it is unfair to districts where soap does not go nearly as far?

It is impossible to be absolutely fair. If you gave extra soap to London, you would have to give it to other areas as well, and it would be very difficult to say where hard water ends and where soft water begins.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether provision will be made for additional soap to be allowed to meet the respective requirements of infants and babies, and families unable to make use of the service of laundries?

My Noble Friend will give careful consideration to the soap requirements of the classes referred to by my hon. Friend, but he has so far no evidence that the prescribed ration will not prove to be sufficient for every class of domestic consumer.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether, in view of the necessity for conserving all foodstuffs, any steps are being taken to reduce the dog population?

The dog population has fallen considerably since the out break of war. The question of food consumption by dogs is being kept under constant review.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food what has been the relation between the premiums paid by the Government and the claims received up to 31st December, 1941, under the arrangement whereby stocks under the control of the Ministry are insured against fire risks with insurance companies and Lloyds; and if any payments have been made for expenses other than those contained in the premiums, what relation do these bear to the claims received?

The approximate relationship between premiums and claims resulting from the insurance against fire risks on land of foodstuffs owned or controlled by the Ministry of Food during the period from the commencement of the scheme on the 1st April, 1940, to 31st December, 1941, has been that the claims have represented 87 per cent. of the premiums. This comparison takes account of the premiums payable and an estimate of the claims outstanding on 31st December, 1941. No payments have been made for expenses other than those contained in the premiums.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food when the promised potato processing factories to Northern Ireland will be in operation; and whether he anticipates that any of these factories will be ready to deal with the remainder of the 1941 potato crop?

Delays have occurred owing to unforeseen technical difficulties in connection with the design and layout of the buildings for the potato processing plant. In consequence, though satisfactory progress is now being made, the factories will not be completed until the summer and early autumn and will not therefore be in operation during the current season.

Is the right hon. and gallant Gentleman aware that there is considerable disappointment at the fact that these factories are not ready to deal with the remainder of the 1941 crop of potatoes, and will he expedite the erection of these factories so that they may be fully equipped to deal with the 1942 crop?

I have said that they will not be completed until the summer and early autumn.

Is that a definite promise?

As definite as can be given in this world.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Food whether he can give any information in connection with food offences against T. Prichard, Limited, and others, for buying and selling illegally 420 cases of dates, 2¼ tons of sugar, 6 cwt. of margarine and 3 tons of cooking fat; and what action has he taken to prevent similar actions?

As the answer is somewhat long, I will, with the hon. Member's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will given an assurance that the fullest possible information is communicated to the relatives of wounded met as to the nature and seriousness of their injury and their condition; and that every facility be given to relatives to enable them to correspond with casualties in the quickest possible manner?

The amount of information which can be communicated to the relative of a wounded man is limited in the first instance by the facilities for communication. The first intimation that an officer or man is wounded comes by telegram direct from the theatre of operations. It will, therefore, be understood that only bare details can be telegraphed. Whilst the natural anxiety of relatives is fully appreciated, it is not possible, owing to the restricted means of communication, to add to the amount of detail which is now officially telegraphed. If, as the result of wounds, injuries, or sickness, an individual becomes seriously or dangerously ill, this information is telegraphed home and communicated to his relatives, together with particulars of his address. It is open to persons in this country to correspond with men serving overseas by telegram. In addition there is the air-graph service to the Middle East. Every effort is being made to increase the facilities for communication with all theatres of war.

asked the Secretary of State for War how much it would cost to restore the cuts imposed in 1935 on retired officers' pensions?

There was no cut imposed in 1935 on retired officers' pensions. Officers' retired pay, which had previously seen subject to cost of living adjustments, was stabilised, in common with the pay and pensions of the Fighting Services and the Civil Service, at or slightly above the level at which it then stood. The cost to increase the rates of retired pay to the standard rates originally fixed in 1919 would amount to approximately £325,000 a year for officers at present in receipt of retired pay, and probably about £500,000 a year when these numbers are increased at the end of the war by the relegation to retired pay of officers now serving. Moreover, officers' retired pay could not be dealt with in isolation and the cost of applying a similar principle over the whole field of service emoluments and pensions would be very much greater.

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that this cut in retired pay amounted to as much as 9 per cent. in individual cases? Will he not give consideration to this restoration, because there are a great many retired officers who are suffering considerable hardship?

I explained that the £325,000 is not a total figure. This question cannot be considered apart from the rate of pension of retired State servants as a whole.

The hon. Gentleman is only asked to deal with this aspect of the question. Any other case can be dealt with when it arises. This is a problem which ought to be dealt with, and the cut ought to be restored.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer could never agree to look at one aspect of a thing in isolation.

Has the Chancellor been approached on the matter?

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that a number of students at Oxford University, who have voluntarily enlisted in the Forces and who have been informed that, if they did so, they would not be called up till after their final examinations in June, have now been told that their call-up will be at the end of the present term in April; and will he agree to a postponement of about two months to enable them to take their final examination, in view of the difference it would make to their careers?

It has been agreed between the Ministry of Labour and National Service and the university authorities that an undergraduate who has been enlisted and relegated to the reserve will have his calling-up postponed until he has completed at least three academic terms at the university. Applications for postponement beyond this period in exceptional cases when students are on the point of taking important examinations should be submitted through the university authorities, and if sup ported by them will be sympathetically considered on the merits of each case.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether, as the result of the improved scales of pay and allowances to members of the Forces, of which the House was informed on 10th February, it is proposed to make any corresponding adjustments in the war service grants that are at present in issue?

A complete review of all war service grants in issue was recently carried out in order to bring them into line with the principles laid down in Command 6318. It is not intended to undertake a further general review at this stage; but as and when a grant comes up for reconsideration for other reasons it will be reassessed on the basis of the facts then existing, including the actual allowances in issue by the Service Department.

Is not the increase of 1s. on ordinary allowances to be given to recipients of war service grants?

When settling what should be the war service grant we have to take into account the income from the Service, and if there is an increase it must be taken into account at the time of the review.

Is the Minister aware of the wide dissatisfaction that his announcement will give?

It should give satisfaction, because I have stated that we are not going to review all these cases straight away, but we must deal with them under the terms laid down by Parliament as and when we have to review them.

asked the Minister of Pensions whether pensions to officers' widows are now awarded on the basis of the full rank of the husband who was serving in a lower rank when he lost his life; and in how many cases pensions have been awarded, since the outbreak of war, to widows of such deceased officers?

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the answer which I gave him yesterday in reply to a similar Question addressed to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for War.

Does my right hon. Friend realise that this question particularly concerns naval officers serving under the Admiralty, and can he say what is the position of a large number of officers who have lost their lives while serving as commodores of convoys and who were admirals?

My hon. and gallant Friend had better have a word with me about those particular cases.