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Written Answers

Volume 408: debated on Thursday 8 March 1945

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Written Answers To Questions

Black Market Operations

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether there is any co-ordinating body representing the Ministries concerned in endeavouring to eradicate the black market operations; and, if so, what is its constitution.

Steps have been taken, in combating black market offences, to promote co-operation and a free interchange of information between the police and the enforcement officers of the Departments primarily concerned, and my present information does not suggest that these arrangements fail in any way to effect the object which my hon. Friend has in mind in proposing a formal coordinating body.

Housing

Site Purchases

asked the Minister of Health what price the Sandy Urban Council offered for eight acres of arable land south of Cambridge Road for housing purposes; whether a compulsory purchase order has been made; whether arbitration has taken place and what award has been given; and what was the rateable value of this land.

No offer of price was made by the Council. A compulsory purchase order has been made and confirmed, but arbitration has not yet taken place. The land is derated.

asked the Minister of Health what has been the outcome of his inquiry relating to the acquisition by the Romford Town Council of the 45-acre Gobins Estate, situated at the corner of Chase Cross Road and Havering Road, for housing purposes; whether purchase of this site has been approved or what stage the negotiations have reached; to what extent the site had been developed by the owners; whether it has buildings upon it; and what is its rateable value.

The compulsory purchase order to which the public inquiry related was confirmed last October. Buildings occupy a small portion of the site, which is otherwise undeveloped. Most of the site is derated, and the combined rateable value of those parts (including buildings) upon which rates are payable is £91.

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that the Clevedon urban district has undertaken to purchase for housing purposes 7.297 acres of land adjoining Old Park Road at a price of £12,500; how much of the price included compensation for injurious affection; and if he will state the value at which the land was assessed for rating purposes.

No, Sir. The urban, district council decided against the acquisition of this site, which was offered to them at a price of £12,500, including £8,500 as compensation for injurious affection. The land is agricultural and therefore derated.

Sewage Disposal

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that in many rural districts, like Wokingham, housing plans are held up owing to uncertainty as to his instructions on drainage matters; and whether he will issue more definite instructions to rural districts as to sewage disposal works or cesspools to enable them to proceed with their housing plans.

I am not aware that in general housing plans in rural districts are being held up owing to uncertainty as to the application of the guidance given in Housing Manual, 1944, but I am looking into the particular difficulty which my hon. and gallant Friend has brought to my notice.

Old Age Pensions

asked the Minister of Health whether he will consider an alteration of the regulation which insists that a person in receipt of a supplementary old age pension shall only have a medical practitioner appointed by the Public Assistance Committee of the county; and whether, in future, a free choice of doctor can be permitted.

Most supplementary pensioners are entitled to medical benefit under the National Health Insurance Acts with a free choice of doctor, and only a small proportion obtain medical treatment through the arrangements made by Public Assistance Authorities. These arrangements may with my sanction include a choice of doctor, and sanction for arrangements of this kind has already been given to about 30 authorities.

Agriculture

Double Summer Time

asked the Minister of Agriculture what are the reasons put forward by farmers who have made representations to him against double summer time; and what steps have been taken to ascertain whether it would be possible to reconcile rival interests in this matter by altering the arrangements for milk distribution and the routine worked on farms.

The reasons which farmers have put forward against double summer time cannot be briefly stated, and I am therefore, with the permission of the National Farmers' Union, sending my hon. Friend a copy of a memorandum prepared by the Union which I regard as a fair statement of the farmers' case. The problem of reconciling agricultural and other interests on the lines suggested by my hon. Friend has been carefully studied, as he will see from the Government decision on the length of the double summer time period this year which was announced on 1st March.

Sugar Beet (Policy)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether sufficient is now known of the economic and scientific aspects of sugar production in Great Britain to enable him to give some indication of what is to be the sugar beet policy in the post-war period.

My hon. and gallant Friend may rest assured that the economic and scientific aspects of sugar production in this country are kept under constant review. An assured market will be maintained for sugar beet up to and including the crop harvested in 1947. I am not able at present to make any statement about long-term policy.

Animal Diseases

asked the Minister of Agriculture if he can give any estimate of the losses suffered in Great Britain in 1944 through animal diseases; and by what date he anticipates a completely adequate veterinary service will be available to and properly utilised by farmers.

It is difficult to form a close estimate of the total losses due to animal disease, but the Loveday Committee on Veterinary Education, reporting early in 1944, put them as high as £30,000,000 per annum. The second part of the Question is even harder to answer, but I am afraid there is very little prospect of civilian veterinary services being increased until after the war.

Women's Land Army

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he is prepared to transfer members of the W.L.A., in spite of the contract of service, from an employer if the conditions are such that there is a reasonable apprehension of moral danger to that member.

I have no authority to withdraw a Land Army member whose services are needed on the farm where she is employed so long as the member herself wishes to remain in her employment and her employer is also satisfied. Should a Land Army member desire to leave her employment through apprehension of moral danger, the Land Army organisation is ready to make other placing arrangements. Any Land Army member whose public behaviour is such as to reflect upon the good name of the organisation is liable to discharge from membership.

Carrots

asked the Minister of Food what tonnage of carrots of the 1944 crop has been purchased by his Ministry this season; of this total, how much was for consumption by the civil population; what tonnage was delivered against completed Ministry contracts for carrots purchased in the ground or as grown; and what tonnage was shown by the valuation in those completed contracts.

Up to 15th March, 1945, my Department has purchased 71,124 tons of carrots of the 1944 crop, of which 13,000 tons were intended for civilian consumption in the United Kingdom and the balance for the Force's, 14,963 tons have been loaded from completed contracts of the type to which my hon. Friend refers, against a tonnage estimated at the time of inspection as 19,283. The deficiency relates to carrots purchased in the ground and is attributable to flooding in late autumn, frost damage during the recent severe weather, and normal wastage.

Veterinary Officers (Remuneration)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether the question of increasing the pay of veterinary officers in his Department is being dealt with under the general arrangements under consideration for improving the pay and status of scientific officers in the Civil Service, or as a separate question; and by what date it is anticipated a decision will be reached.

The question of the remuneration of the Ministry's Veterinary Officers will be considered in relation to the remuneration of other scientific officers in the Civil Service after the end of the war with Germany.

Weather Reports

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether he will, as soon as security regulations make it practicable, make available to farmers weather reports and forecasts again, and ensure that fanners are not unnecessarily handicapped in these matters.

On this matter I am in consultation with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Air.

Town Planning (Greater London)

asked the Minister of Town and Country Planning whether he is now able to make any statement with regard to the establishment of a town planning authority for the area of Greater London.

This matter is being actively pursued, but I am not yet in a position to make a detailed statement.

Pensions Appeal Tribunals

asked the Minister of Pensions if his attention has been called to the decision of the Court of Session against the decision of the Pensions Appeal Tribunal, Edinburgh, in the case of Mrs. Bessie Mitchell, widow of R. H. Mitchell, R.A.S.C., who died on 25th September, 1940; and if he will ask the tribunals to review all similar cases in which an adverse decision has been given, with a view to bringing them into agreement with the High Court decision.

It is quite impossible for me to know whether the Pensions Appeal Tribunals in Scotland have given any decisions which conflict with the ruling of the Court of Session referred to by the hon. Member, and in any event the Act gives me no authority to take the action suggested by him, since it definitely lays down that the decision of the Tribunal is final except in so far as appeal is permitted to the Court of Session. Except as indicated below, this latter appeal is open to any applicant who considers that the decision given by the Tribunal in his case conflicts with, the ruling of the Court of Session. The exception to this general statement concerns cases in which the time limit for appeal to the Court of Session has now expired, but even in these cases the regulations make provision for an extension of the time allowed. I should be bound in general to take objection to departure from prescribed time limits, but I should not seek, in cases of the kind now in question, to oppose an application for leave to appeal on the sole ground of the expiry of the prescribed time limit.

asked the Attorney-General how many appeals have been decided by the Pensions Appeal Tribunals and how many of these appeals have succeeded.

Up to 2nd March, 16,008 appeals had been decided by the Pensions Appeal Tribunals in the United Kingdom; of these 4,128 appeals were allowed.

Indian Army (Officers, Demobilisation)

asked the Secretary of State for India what arrangements are being made for the demobilisation of officers holding temporary commissions who have been transferred to the Indian Army; and whether such officers will have the same facilities for continuing interrupted education as officers who are in the British Army.

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to demobilisation in its strict sense and not to release, with which I dealt in my reply of 8th November to the hon. Member for Northampton (Mr. Summers) of which I am sending him a copy. In regard to demobilisation, as in regard to release, the arrangements for the Indian Army will as far as possible accord with those adopted for the British Army. The reply to the second part of the Question is in the affirmative.

Teachers' Salaries

asked the Minister of Education whether a person who holds a teaching certificate but was unable to teach because he was called to the Forces at the outbreak of war, will receive any increase over the minimum salary for a teacher in view of his war service or in view of the fact that he has since married.

Utility Furniture (Permits)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that Mr. Bishop, 4, Brookland View, New Tredegar, Monmouthshire, was discharged from the Mercantile Marine and has been living, together with his wife and two children, with the wife's relatives; that now the relatives have left he is in possession of the house; that he has no furniture, never having a home of his own although married for over three years; that he has applied for the necessary permission to secure utility furniture but so far has had no reply; and will he have inquiries made so as to relieve these people.

My right hon. Friend has not previously communicated with me about this case. My inquiries lead me to believe that the facts do not accord with the statement in his Question. Mr. Bishop received a permit for 24 units in February, 1944, which he has not used.

British Army

Musical Instrument (Return)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that Private Idris Jones, Pioneer Corps, who was stationed at a camp in Perthshire, was sent by his commanding officer to his home at Argoed, Monmouthshire, to fetch his piano-accordion to help in the entertainment of the troops; that on D-Day he was sent overseas and Captain Parker, who was left behind, undertook to return the instrument to the boy's home, but so far it has not arrived; and will he make inquiries and see that it is returned.

Inquiries are being made into these allegations. When they are completed I will write to my right hon. Friend.

Italian Prisoners Of War

asked the Secretary of State for War, in view of the insulting behaviour of Italian prisoners of war towards the wives of men away serving in the Forces, particulars of which have been supplied to him, whether he will make arrangements for Swaffham to be placed out of bounds to Italian prisoners of war in future.

This case has been investigated. No complaint has been made to the Camp Commandant regarding the insulting behaviour of Italian prisoners of war to enable disciplinary action to be taken against offenders. Arrangements are being made to improve the supervision of Italian prisoners of war in the area. If these do not prove effective I will certainly consider my hon. Friend's suggestion.

Inoculations ("Immunity")

asked the Secretary of State for War whether the Army Medical Department uses the word "immunity" to mean protected from a disease; or what is the meaning of the word in reference to vaccination and the various inoculations.

The term "immunity" is used by the Army Medical Department to describe the effects of protective treatment against certain diseases. There are degrees of immunity which necessarily vary in accordance with certain factors, for example, the resistance of the patient to a particular parasite.

Public Health

National Health Service

asked the Minister of Health what progress is being made with his negotiations with doctors, pharmacists, hospitals and opticians, respectively, in connection with the proposed National Health Service.

I have nothing at present to add to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Fulham West (Dr. Summerskill) on 1st February last.

Diphtheria (Immunisation)

asked the Minister of Health how many children under five and between five and fifteen were immunised against diphtheria in each of the years 1941, 1942, 1943 and 1944.

The figures for England and Wales are as follow. Separate figures for the year 1941 are not available, and for the year 1944 complete figures are not yet available beyond 30th June.

Year.Under 5.5 to 15.
1940 and 1941547,3601,818,030
1942610,950789,800
1943525,820513,670
1944 (first half)173,22093,090
The returns on which these figures are based do not include immunisations by doctors in private practice.

Medical Practitioners

asked the Minister of Health whether he has considered the example submitted to him of the dissatisfaction amongst senior medical officers serving abroad at the small proportion of newly-qualified medical practitioners who are called up for military service abroad in exchange for senior officers and the large number who are drafted into the Emergency Medical Service at home; and whether he will inquire into and remedy these conditions.

I have considered the letter which my hon. Friend has forwarded to me, but I would point out that the great majority of newly qualified medical practitioners fit for military service are already being called up after short periods in resident hospital appointments, which are necessary to provide the experience required for subsequent military service. Resident hospital posts are limited in number to the minimum war-time establishments approved for each hospital by the Central Medical War Committee and it is the policy of that Committee wherever possible to call up the holders of the senior posts after a certain period so that a proper flow of young practitioners through these posts to the Forces may be maintained.

Penicillin

asked the Minister of Health if he will now release some supply of penicillin for use in civilian medical practice, as distinguished from hospital practice, which is not available to the whole community.

Yes, Sir. Arrangements are now being made for a wider distribution of penicillin from upwards of 200 large hospitals throughout the country, which will be authorised to issue penicillin on request to smaller hospitals. It will in most cases be necessary for a patient requiring systematic treatment to be removed to hospital, but each distributing hospital will be authorised to issue penicillin to private practitioners for the treatment at home or in a nursing home of suitable cases whom it is not practicable to transfer to hospital.

Hotels (Rehabilitation)

asked the Minister of Labour what procedure is to be adopted to ensure that the recommendations of the Catering Wages Commission on the rehabilitation of hotels are carried out, as far as possible, at the earliest opportunity.

No decision has been taken by the Government on these recommendations, but they will be considered and borne in mind by the Government Departments concerned when framing any proposals to which they have relevance.

Franchise (British Subjects Resident Abroad)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the decision to allow business votes and votes from Service personnel overseas at, the next election, consideration is being given to permitting overseas-serving personnel, such as members of the Foreign Service, who pay Income Tax by deduction at source, to have facilities to exercise their right to vote.

The only persons stationed abroad who can qualify for electoral registration are persons who but for their war service would be resident here. This does not cover personnel in the Foreign Service ordinarily stationed abroad. As regards such persons, I would refer to the reply which I gave to my hon. and gallant Friend on 16th January.

Espionage

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons have been convicted of espionage in the course of the present war; and if he will state the nationality and the national origin of each of these persons and the sentences imposed in each case.

All the information which can properly be given on this subject has already been made public.

Jurors (Expenses)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, owing to the difficulties experienced under war conditions by members of the public summoned for jury service at assizes and quarter sessions, he will authorise the payment to such persons of such sums as will cover their travelling and out-of-pocket expenses.

I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the reply which I gave on 18th January to my hon. Friend the Member for Kensington, South (Sir W. Davison).

German-Born Doctor (Detention)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now review the case, details of which have been submitted to him, of a doctor of medicine of German origin but a naturalised British subject, who has been detained for five years, whose release was recommended soon after his original detention by the Advisory Committee, but who was rearrested after a few months without any reasons being furnished.

In accordance with the policy which I have frequently stated to the House, the case to which my hon. Friend refers has been kept constantly under review, and I have been satisfied that it is necessary in the interests of national security to continue detention. I had already received a copy of the representations of which my hon. Friend has sent me details, and am taking them into consideration in a further review of the case which I am now making. I will inform my hon. Friend of my decision in due course.

Air Travel (Official Journeys, Insurance)

asked the Financial Secretary to the Treasury to what extent insurance premiums against risks incurred by civil servants and others travelling by air on official business are covered out of public funds.

The general position is that any premium required to keep alive an existing policy of life insurance which does not cover the risks of an overseas journey by air or sea, or any additional premium required to cover these special risks on a new policy, may, within limits, be repaid out of public funds. If my hon. Friend desires fuller information. I shall be happy to furnish him with it.

Jamaica (Penicillin Supplies)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware that there is much dissatisfaction in the medical profession in Jamaica at the limitation of supplies of penicillin and that an expert advisory committee appointed by the local branch, of the B.M.A. is competent to ensure that all supplies reaching the Colony shall be used to the best medical advantage and that adequate facilities exist for, and have been in force for, controlled clinical trial; and if he will again review the whole position.

It is the case that there was some dissatisfaction in Jamaica at the limitation of supplies of penicillin, but this was at least partly due to a misunderstanding as to the possibility of supply through normal commercial channels and as to the necessity for limitation of the supplies available for Colonial civil use. It has now been possible to arrange for penicillin to be used in the Colonies subject only to the same restrictions as apply in this country, but Government control of distribution is still necessary and is now being exercised in Jamaica by a local committee consisting of three Government medical officers and two private practitioners nominated by the local branch of the British Medical Association. I hope that with the fuller supplies available and greater understanding of the restrictions which are still necessary the causes for local dissatisfaction have been removed.

Road Transport Vehicles (Width)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of War Transport if he has any information as to the countries in which goods and passenger vehicles of eight feet maximum width are permitted and in current use.

So far as I have been able to ascertain the following countries allow a maximum width of 8 feet or more: Algeria, Australia (except the States of Western Australia and Queensland), Belgian Congo, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Estonia, Fiji, France, French Guiana, Gambia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Madagascar, Mexico, New Zealand, Panama, Poland, Rumania, Salvador, Siam, South Africa, Spain, Spanish Morocco, Syria, Tunis, United States of America, Uruguay, Yugo-Slavia.

Allied Control Commissions (Experts)

asked the Secretary of State for War to which of the liberated or occupied countries we have appointed economic experts to the Allied Control Commissions; and if he can give the names of our representatives and their qualifications.

In liberated countries there are no such commissions. About 90 British officers are employed with the Economic Division of the Allied Commission in Italy and with the Economic Sections of the British Delegations to the Allied Control Commissions in Rumania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Finland. These officers are chosen for their fitness to carry out the duties of their posts. It would, however, be contrary to the normal practice to give their names or their detailed qualifications.

Foreign Service (Recruitment)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether recruitment for post-war appointments in the Foreign Service has yet begun; and what are the regulations governing such appointments and the conditions of service offered.

Recruitment for the Foreign Service has not yet been resumed. The Civil Service Commissioners are hoping to publish the regulations for the reconstruction examinations for the Foreign Service at the beginning of June, and to hold the first examination a few weeks after that date or after the end of the war with Germany, whichever is later. The regulations will include a statement of the conditions of service.

Lost Postal Packets (Compensation)

asked the Postmaster-General the value of articles of all kinds lost in transit through the Post Office by theft or otherwise for 1939 and each succeeding year up to and including 1944.

Statistics are available only of the amount of compensation paid in respect of loss (including theft) which was as follows:

Financial year£
1938–3923,143
1939–4023,438
1940–4140,030
1941–4292,698
1942–43104,926
1943–44104,384

Civil Aviation (Travel Agencies)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Aircraft Production, as representing the Minister of Civil Aviation, whether, in working out his plans for Civil Aviation for the forthcoming White Paper, he will safeguard the position of bona fide independent licensed agencies dealing solely with travel whose continued activity might be threatened by setting up an exclusive monopoly.

I can assure my hon. Friend that there is no intention of interfering with the business of any travel agency.