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Written Answers

Volume 517: debated on Monday 13 July 1953

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 13th July, 1953

Softwood

20.

asked the Minister of Materials whether he will publish the report of the Committee on Consumption Licensing of Softwood.

From the study just completed by officials and representatives of the Timber Development Association, who were not constituted as a formal Committee, it appears that, if consumption licensing were removed, total consumption of softwood would be likely to rise by some 230,000 standards a year. The full rise would not take place until the third year after the removal of licensing.

Icao (Chinese Nationalist Membership)

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what instructions were given to Her Majesty's Government's delegate at the recent conference of the International Civil Aviation Organisation towards the application of Nationalist China for membership of the International Civil Aviation Organisation.

No application by the Chinese Nationalist authorities for China to become a member of the International Civil Aviation Organisation was before the Assembly which met recently in Brighton. The question of instructions to the United Kingdom delegate on this point did not, therefore, arise.

Korea (Prisoners Of War)

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is satisfied with the arrangements now made by those in charge of United Nations' prisoners of war in Korea to prevent escape or release.

According to my information the United Nations Command have made the best arrangements possible, in the difficult circumstances prevailing, to guard effectively the prisoners of war in their custody.

Ministry Of Food

Meat

55.

asked the Minister of Food if he will discourage descriptions such as ewe mutton; and if he will instruct butchers to label Scottish lamb and mutton when they get it in order to preserve consumer goodwill for Scottish food products.

This is a common trade term. Butchers are already required to label all imported meat either as "Empire" or "Foreign" according to its origin. There is no power to require the labelling of home-killed meat by country of origin.

63.

asked the Minister of Food what he estimates will be the total amount of the sum to be recovered as as result of the recently announced meat price increases during 1953–54.

About £4 million, roughly equivalent to the cost of the reductions also recently announced.

Prunes

57.

asked the Minister of Food whether he is aware of the total disappearance of prunes in this country; and, in view of the fact that they are a necessity for many invalids and elderly people, what action he is taking to obtain adequate supplies.

The United States is the principal source of supply of prunes, but owing to our dollar difficulties we cannot at present afford to import them.

Imported Foodstuffs (Animal Products)

58.

asked the Minister of Food the total weight of animal foods for human consumption imported in 1952; and what proportion it was to the total quantity of all imported foods with any details of varieties that are available.

The total weight of foods of animal origin imported for human consumption in 1952 was 2,083,000 tons, equivalent to 16 per cent. by weight of all imported food. Following is a statement giving the details.

Imports into the United Kingdom of Foods of Animal Origin in1952
Thousand tons.
Carcase meat and offal568
Bacon and ham252
Canned meat194
All other meat and meat products77
Fish, including canned fish155
Eggs and egg products95
Butter259
Cheese137
Other milk products87
Lard and other animal fats121
Marine oils138
2,083

Eggs

61.

asked the Minister of Food what steps he proposes to take to arrest the deterioration in quality standards of eggs.

My right hon. and gallant Friend is not aware of any general deterioration in the quality standards of eggs.

62.

asked the Minister of Food whether he will make a statement on the future marketing arrangements for eggs.

The interim arrangements have only been in operation since the end of March, and my right hon. and gallant Friend is not yet in a position to make a statement on the future.

Cream (Sale)

asked the Minister of Food whether he will make a further statement about the sales of cream.

On 25th February, 1953, I told the House that milk supplies were estimated to be such that I could safely allow for the period—April to the end of July—the manufacture and sale of cream without restriction. I have reviewed this matter in the light of the autumn and winter supply estimates and I am confident that in the absence of unforeseen factors, such as adverse weather, it will be possible to allow the present arrangement to continue. I must, however, repeat the warning that I gave in February that restrictions on the use of milk may have to be reimposed at any time if there is any danger of supplies not being sufficient for the needs of the domestic market and of essential milk products such as cheese and infant milk foods.The present arrangements for the import of fresh and sterilised cream will continue and a detailed announcement on this matter will be made shortly by the Board of Trade.

Railways

Suburban Services (Electrification Cost)

65.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will state the estimated cost of electrifying the suburban railway services from Liverpool Street to Enfield Town and Chingford and the Churchbury Loop from Edmonton to Cheshunt, respectively.

No separate estimate of cost for the electrification of these sections of line has been prepared by the Transport Commission.

Harrow Accident Report (Automatic Train Control)

66.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the action he proposes to take on the recommendation contained in the report on the Harrow railway disaster in regard to auomatic train control.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 6th July last to the hon. Member for Derbyshire, South-East (Mr. Champion).

Pensions Scheme

75.

asked the Minister of Transport why he has found it necessary to call for a further actuary's report on the proposed pension scheme for wages grades in the railway service, when there is already available a comprehensive actuary's report.

78.

asked the Minister of Transport if he can now make a statement on the new scheme for pensions for railwaymen; and if the scheme will include railway shopmen.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for The Hartlepools (Mr. D. Jones) on 6th July. I cannot make any statement about the details of the proposed scheme until after the Commission have discussed with the trade unions the observations which I have made upon the proposals.

Decentralisation And Regional Management

77.

asked the Minister of Transport if he can give the details of the scheme of decentralisation and regional management proposed to him by the Transport Commission in respect of British Railways.

No scheme under the recent Transport Act for this purpose has been submitted to me.

Shipping

"Princess Victoria" (Radio Equipment)

67.

asked the Minister of Transport in view of the fact that the report on the s.s. "Princess Victoria" disaster discloses that this ship was not equipped with radio capable of providing speech communication with the shore and with rescue vessels, what steps he is taking to remedy this state of affairs.

The m.v. "Princess Victoria" was fitted with radiotelegraph equipment and carried a qualified radio officer in accordance with the statutory safety requirements for passenger ships. In general, radiotelegraphy has considerable advantages over radiotelephony for ships' safety purposes, being superior in range, more intelligible when there is interference, and capable of alerting ships by means of auto-alarms. Ships so fitted are able to communicate not only with other radiotelegraph ships but also with the coast radio stations, which are an essential link in the rescue organisation. In this way, communication is established with all possible sources of assistance.There is no evidence that the provision of radiotelephone equipment would have assisted in the case of the "Princess Victoria."

Air-Sea Radio Communication

68.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that British Railways ships have no direct means of radio communication with aircraft; and what steps he proposes to take to remedy this dangerous deficiency.

69.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that ships and aircraft use different systems of wireless communication and that difficulty and danger is thereby caused to voyagers in both; and if he will set up an inquiry with a view to rectifying this and co-ordinating these means of communication.

In general, merchant ships and aircraft use different frequencies and so have no means of direct radio communication one with the other. There are however standing arrangements whereby distress traffic concerning either party is passed, whenever necessary, to the other through shore control links with the minimum of delay. These links give the essential co-ordination within the rescue organisation. In addition, the military aircraft earmarked for long range search and rescue operations are able to communicate direct with merchant ships fitted with radiotelegraphy. These arrangements have proved generally satisfactory. They will however be included in the examination which I am arranging of the air-sea rescue arrangements, and the points made by hon. Members will be borne in mind.

Roads

Staples Corner—Neasden Circus (Speed Limit)

70.

asked the Minister of Transport whether his attention has been drawn to the series of accidents, some fatal, which have recently occurred at the Brook Road junction of the North Circular Road, N.W.2; and if he will now institute a 30-mile speed limit along this road from Staples Corner to Neasden Circus.

I learned with great regret of the recent fatal and serious casualties near this place. I doubt whether a speed limit would reduce the danger, but the police are strengthening their motor-cycle patrol on this length of road and I am arranging for the traffic conditions here to be carefully examined in conjunction with the police to see what other measures can be adopted.

Development Plans (Proposals)

72.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will publish a White Paper before the summer Recess showing the main outline of future roads for development plans and indicating which it is contemplated will be likely to be proceeded with at an early date.

No. I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to development plans under the Town and Country Planning Act, 1947. Only a relatively small number of these have so far been approved by my right hon. Friends the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Minister of Housing and Local Government. The road proposals which have been included in these plans are founded on the best estimates which could be made of the prospects of proceeding with them and it would not be practicable to attempt any more precise estimate at present.

By-Pass And Bridge Schemes, Newport

73.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps have been taken to make the new by-pass road at Newport and to provide a new local bridge to deal with the growing congestion at the present junction of the main road over the Usk.

Some progress has been made with the planning of the bypass. An additional local bridge would cost about £1½million and would involve considerable demolition of property and interference with wharves. I cannot indicate when it might be practicable to begin the execution of either scheme.

High Level Bridge Scheme, Barton

80.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that the all-party deputation of Lancashire Members which met him on Wednesday, 18th February, to stress the necessity of sanction being given for the commencement of the preliminary banking work for the proposed high level bridge at Barton, is still awaiting a reply despite numerous reminders; and if he will communicate with the hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, and the hon. Member for Leigh.

Yes. This matter raises some rather difficult issues, but I expect to be able to write to the hon. Members concerned very shortly.

Transport

Oxford Canal

71.

asked the Minister of Transport what decision he has taken on the application by the British Transport Commission to abandon the Oxford Canal.

Public Service Vehicles (Licensing)

74.

asked the Minister of Transport if the theatre industry has been permitted to give evidence to the Thesiger Committee, expressing views on the problem created by the recent judgment, Wurzal versus Dowher.

The Theatres National Committee have submitted two papers to the Thesiger Committee. It is for the Committee to decide whether they should be invited to give oral evidence also.

Commission (Membership)

76.

asked the Minister of Transport if he can announce the names of the persons chosen to act upon the Transport Commission for the new period of office of the Transport Commission.

Ministry Of Supply

Aircraft Purchases, Germany

81.

asked the Minister of Supply if his attention has been drawn to the fact that the West German Government is proposing to purchase American aircraft for its civil airline because of the delay in the delivery of British machines; and if he will make a statement.

I have seen it stated that a limited number of American piston-engined aircraft will be used in the first place to restart civil air transport in Germany. So far as I am aware, no long-term decision has been taken as to what types of turbine-engined airliners will in due course be introduced.

Security Procedure (Personal Case)

82.

asked the Minister of Supply whether he is aware that a security officer of his Department seeking information about Mr. Robert Haslam, an employee of his Department at Risley, Lancashire, not only questioned Mr. Haslam about his personal history since birth but also asked him similar personal questions about various members of his family; that the two referees of Mr. Haslam who had sponsored his application for employment were asked by telephone for similar information including the political views of Mr. Haslam's family; and if he will give instructions that these methods should be discontinued.

The case referred to was investigated in accordance with the security procedure established for ensuring the reliability of staff employed on secret Government work.I am satisfied that the information asked for was relevant to the case in question. But the use of the telephone in these circumstances was quite improper and steps have been taken to bring this to the attention of all concerned.

National Insurance

Pneumoconiosis

83.

asked the Minister of National Insurance if he will prescribe employment in the Cleveland iron ore mines as an occupation involving risk of pneumoconiosis under the National Insurance (Industrial Injuries) Act.

87.

asked the Minister of National Insurance whether the Industrial Diseases Sub-Committee (Pneumoconiosis) has yet reported on the question referred to it early in 1951 of the method of prescribing pneumoconiosis for the purposes of insurance under the National Insurance (Industrial Injuries) Act, 1946.

I have just received a very full report from the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council on the cover to be provided for pneumoconiosis. I am studying this and hope to be able to announce what action I propose to take on its recommendations shortly.

Retirement Pensions

84.

asked the Minister of National Insurance if, in view of the fact that the average duration of the life of man is shorter than the average duration of the life of woman, he will take steps to ensure that men shall be paid their old-age or retiring pension at an age no later in life than the age at which the old-age or retiring pension is paid to women.

asked the Minister of National Insurance how many persons there were in Scotland, in 1952, in receipt of retirement pensions; how many of these also received National Assistance; and the comparable figures for each of the last four years.

The figures asked for are as follows:

SCOTLAND
Retirement and Contributory Old Age PensionersNational Assistance Grants payable in respect of Retirement and Contributory Old Age Pensioners
December, 1948398,00036,000
December, 1949396,00041,000
December, 1950393,00051,000
December, 1951389,00059,000
December, 1952388,00066,000
In some cases the National Assistance grant covers the needs of a household containing more than one pensioner.

Long-Term Unemployed (Benefits)

85.

asked the Minister of National Insurance what will be the position of those persons who have exhausted their unemployment benefits under the new extended benefit scheme and are receiving benefit from the National Assistance Board; and if they will continue to be insured for all other benefits under National Insurance.

A person who after drawing his additional days of unemployment benefit is still unemployed and is receiving National Assistance, will be credited with contributions on the same conditions as when he was receiving insurance benefit.

Clergymen (Insurance And Tax Classifications)

86.

asked the Minister of National Insurance why clergymen are treated as self-employed persons for the purpose of National Insurance contributions and have to pay the 7s. 5d. per week rate, since for taxation purposes they are classed as employed persons and assessed under Schedule E.

The only persons who can be treated as employed persons for the purposes of the National Insurance Acts are persons employed under a contract of service and persons deemed to be employed persons by virtue of Regulations. Clergymen have repeatedly been held not to be employed under a contract of service and so far as Regulations are concerned the National Insurance Advisory Committee have expressed the view that they should not be treated as if they were so employed. I understand that a different criterion applies for Income Tax purposes.

Industrial Building Licences, North Staffordshire

89.

asked the Minister of Works the amount of building licences issued for industrial work, recently, in the North Staffordshire area; for what projects; and, in particular, what licences have been issued for coking coal plant.

The total value of licences issued for new industrial work in the North Staffordshire area, during the past three months, amounted to £397,209. Among the larger projects included in this amount are the following:

G. Embrey, Newcastle-under-Lyne, bakery, stage II—£46,000.
Booth & Colclough, Tunstall, pottery reconstruction—£28,537.
G. H. Downing & Co., Ltd., Keele, tile-works extension—£25,000.
W. Tatton, Leek, factory extension—£55,000.
Doulton & Co., Burslem, pottery extension—£22,600.
Michelin Tyre Co., Stoke, extension—£27,500.
No licences were issued for coking coal plant during this period.

National Service (Personal Case)

88.

asked the Minister of Labour if, in view of doubts expressed by one of his own officials at Ipswich, he is satisfied that Mr. Peter R. G. Frostick, 51, Fitches Crescent, Maldon, Essex, registration number M.C.D.3273, was correctly graded at his medical examination on 9th April, 1953, and that all his documents were correctly marked; and whether he is satisfied that this man is fit for service in the Royal Artillery.

In order to satisfy myself whether this man is fit for service, I am arranging for him to have a further medical examination. No enlistment notice has been sent to him.

Water Supplies (Hastings And Rye Area)

90.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware that certain country areas near Hastings and Rye are still in difficulty regarding water supplies; whether he will expedite in his Department consideration of those applications for permits which will speed the provision of water; and whether he will also give special attention to the application of the Battle Rural District Council to sink the necessary bore holes at Seddlescombe, in order to test whether the water is sufficient and pure enough to use.

I am well aware of the difficulties about water supplies in this area. In May last the Hastings Town Council were authorised to construct an intake on the River Rother; this is part of a larger scheme which I hope can be started next year. In addition the council have received authority to proceed at once with a trunk water main from Icklesham to Camber. Smaller schemes for distribution mains will be considered as resources of labour and materials permit.

The Battle Rural District Council were asked in September last to send an outline scheme for supplying the area for which they are responsible so that a local investigation might be held to find out whether the proposed borehole source at Seddlescombe would be the best method of providing a supply for parishes in the area. This will be considered as soon as it is received.

Solid Fuel Appliances (House Installations)

91.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps have been taken by Her Majesty's Government to encourage local authorities and other owners of house property to install high-efficiency solid fuel appliances both in new houses and in existing dwellings.

The installation of recommended appliances is required in all new local authority houses, and local authorities have been asked to do all they can to secure that appliances in new private houses are of this type. It is also a condition of improvement grant for work on old property that any appliance installed shall be of the recommended type.

Land, Oxfordshire (Acquisition)

asked the Minister of Agriculture whether the Oxfordshire Agricultural Executive Committee is still proposing to take over part of the Quarry Farm, Long Handborough, Oxfordshire, for the erection of premises for the Oxfordshire Farmers' Co-operative Society, in view of the fact that some members of the Oxfordshire Agricultural Executive Committee are also officers of the society.

There has never been any proposal that this land should be taken over by the Oxfordshire Agricultural Executive Committee for the erection of premises for the Oxfordshire Farmers' Co-operative Society. My hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary is in correspondence with my hon. Friend on this matter.

Prisoners (Press Articles)

asked the Attorney-General whether he is aware that arrangements are frequently made whereby newspapers finance the defence of persons charged with criminal offences in return for certain undertakings by them; and whether he will institute an inquiry to consider the desirability of legislation to prevent probable abuses arising therefrom.

I understand that such arrangements are made but I have no detailed information as to the nature of the undertakings referred to. With regard to the second part of the Question, I am aware of the concern felt on this subject in all parts of the House, but I cannot at present add anything to the answer I gave this afternoon to the hon. Member for South Ayrshire (Mr. Emrys Hughes).

National Finance

Surplus War Stores

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer the total value of surplus war stores sold since 1945; and how far the proceeds have been treated as capital or as general revenue.

Total disposals of surplus war stores (as distinct from fixed capital assets) amounted to £880 million during the years 1945–46 to 1952–53. The greater part of the proceeds was brought into the Exchequer as receipts from the sale of surplus war stores. It is not possible to identify the extent to which the receipts were used to defray capital and recurrent expenditure respectively.

Travelling And Subsistence Expenses (Rules)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in what cases, and under what statutory provisions, he has imposed limits on the amounts recoverable by persons performing public duties in respect of financial loss or of travelling or subsistence expenses incurred by them; and what are the limits in each case.

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to compensation for loss of remunerative time, and travelling and subsistence expenses for members of the public who serve in an unpaid capacity as members of Government committees, Royal Commissions and similar bodies. The rules governing these matters are somewhat lengthy and I am sending the hon. Member a copy of them. They are not subject to any statutory provision.

Cotton Industry

asked the President of the Board of Trade to state the number of groups in the cotton-spinning industry who submitted reorganisation plans under the Cotton Spinning Re-equipment Subsidy Act, 1948; the total number of mule equivalent spindles controlled by these groups, and the proportion they bear to the industry as a whole; the number of mills and the number and proportion of spindles affected; the total cost of modernisation involved; and the total subsidy paid or due to be paid.

Twenty-seven groups submitted reorganisation plans under the Act, but one of these later notified its intention to make no application for subsidy. On 15th August, 1945, the 26 groups in respect of which applications for subsidy have been or are being considered, controlled 21·5 million mule equivalent spindles, representing 51 per cent. of the mule equivalent spindles installed in the industry as a whole on that date. The plans submitted by these groups affected 145 mills and 12 million mule equivalent spindles, representing 30 per cent. of the mule equivalent spindles in the industry and 59 per cent. of the mule equivalent spindles controlled by these groups. The total cost of the modernisation involved is estimated to be £11·6 million and the total subsidy paid or due to be paid is estimated at £2·9 million.

asked the President of the Board of Trade to give figures in his possession indicating the pace of re-equipment in the Lancashire cotton industry, spinning and weaving, since the war, and, particularly, since 1951.

Complete figures of the total amount of new equipment delivered to the Lancashire cotton industry, including home produced and imported textile machinery and associated equipment are not available. The following estimates of home market deliveries of home-produced textile machinery for cotton and staple rayon spinning and weaving, however, offer a reasonably reliable guide to the pace of total re-equipment in the industry.

YearFor spinning and processes subsequent to spinning but preparatory to weavingFor weaving
£ million£ million
19473·01·5
19483·71·7
19494·52·5
19504·32·8
19516·23·1
19526·32·8

asked the President of the Board of Trade to state the number of automatic looms installed in the Lancashire cotton industry, including rayon weaving, and the proportion these bear to the total number of looms in the industry in 1938 and representative postwar years to the latest date available.

Figures for 1938 are not available, but the following estimates, based on returns from United Kingdom mills weaving cotton, rayon and mixture fabrics, have been made before and since the war:

Automatic loomsApproximate percentage of total looms erected in running mills
31st December, 193615,2243
1st September, 194825,7197
31st July, 195234,28210

Health Officers (Expenses)

asked the Minister of Health in what cases, and under what statutory provisions, he has imposed limits on the amounts recoverable by persons performing public duties in respect of financial loss or of travelling or subsistence expenses incurred by them; and what are the limits in each case.

The amounts recoverable are governed by Regulations and directions made under the National Health Service Acts, 1946 and 1949, the Nurses Act, 1949, and the Midwives Act, 1951. I am sending copies of the relevant Regulations and directions to the hon. Member.

Soldier's Death

asked the Secretary of State for War if he is satisfied that adequate investigations have been made into the case of Private John Owen Hughes who was conscripted into the Army with a medical grading of A.1, and who subsequently died of a disease from which he had suffered since childhood; what steps he is taking to see that similar mistakes do not occur in future; and what compensation he is making to the parents.

Yes. I have looked most carefully into the treatment of this soldier by the Army medical authorities.The facts are these. This soldier was examined by the Ministry of Labour and National Service No. 1 Medical Board. Birmingham, on 29th October, 1951, and passed as Grade 1 He was called up for National Service as a signalman on 6th December, 1951, and examined on that day by the unit medical officer who found no signs of any disease and confirmed this assessment. He was again medically examined on 17th April, 1952, and found fit. In connection with all three examinations it must be stressed that the disease which caused his death, angio-neurotic oedema, shows no signs or symptoms between attacks.On 16th June, 1952, he first attended a military hospital, at Catterick, as an outpatient complaining of occasional swellings of various parts of his body. At once a correct diagnosis of angio-neurotic oedema was made and appropriate treatment was ordered. At the same time it was recommended that his medical category be downgraded, under the standard procedure for this complaint, so that he would be employed only on restricted duties and in a temperate climate. This recommendation was endorsed by a medical board and from July, 1952, until his death he was on sedentary duties as a clerk.It was not until 8th May this year that further treatment became necessary. This was at Aldershot as a result of a swelling on his leg. He was at once admitted to hospital, fully examined and given treatment. At the same time the nature and possibilities of his complaint and his future in the Army were fully discussed with him. He had already served eighteen months and had only six months to complete and was, of course, in a sedentary occupation. After very careful deliberation it was considered that he would be as safe in the Army, with medical attention always at hand, as in civilian life and he himself agreed that he should not be boarded out. He was given further warnings and detailed written instructions which he was to give immediately to a doctor on any recurrence of swellings, particularly those of the face.On 8th June he was treated successfully for a minor attack at the Military Hospital, Millbank. Finally, just before going on leave on 14th June this year, he apparently knocked his head on a locker or drawer and, while on leave, fell ill at about midnight on 16th June. He at once reported, as he had been instructed by the Military Hospital, Aldershot, to the nearest hospital in Birmingham. The house surgeon, on reading the letter which he carried, was warned of his condition and, in spite of Hughes' opinion that the attack was subsiding and the fact that he was not in the least distressed, insisted on putting him to bed and treating him. Most regrettably Hughes died 1½ hours after admission.From this account, I am in no doubt that, throughout his time in the Army, he was treated with due professional skill and with sympathy.The question of an award to the widow is under consideration by my hon. Friend the Minister of Pensions.

British Subjects (Uk Immigration)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will keep records of the countries of origin of British subjects who immigrate to Britain to settle permanently here.

I have no power to obtain from British subjects arriving in this country the information which would be required for this purpose. I am consulting my right hon. Friends the President of the Board of Trade and the Minister of Transport to ascertain whether the statistics of passenger traffic which they maintain could be supplemented, and will write to the hon. Member in due course.