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Volume 564: debated on Thursday 7 February 1957

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 7th February, 1957

Trade And Commerce

Exports To China (Diesel Engines)

5.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the proposed efforts of the Rolls-Royce Company to seek orders from China for diesel engines, British manufacturers of diesel engines will now be permitted to export them to China.

The export of all diesel engines to China is subject to the embargo, but applications for licences are considered on their merits within the limitations of the exceptions procedure.

Hire Purchase (Finance)

11.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what legislation regarding alteration of the laws concerning hire-purchase finance, as foreshadowed in the Gracious Speech, is now contemplated; and whether he will make a statement.

I have nothing at present to add to the statement which was made in the Gracious Speech on this subject.

Gloving Industry (Representations)

12.

asked the President of the Board of Trade when he expects to be able to give a reply to the recent representations made on behalf of the gloving industry.

Key Industries Duty

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the total value of imports into the United Kingdom in the years 1954, 1955 and 1956, respectively, of goods which were subjected to the key industries duty; and how this total was divided between different products as classified officially in Lists 1-8, and between the areas of origin of the Messina Powers, other Organisation of European Economic Co-operation countries, sterling area countries, dollar area countries, and the remainder of the world, respectively.

The total value of these goods imported and retained for home use, including goods admitted to preference, was £11 million in 1954. Such details of the products making up this total as are available appear on pages 43-47 of the Supplement to Volume II of "The Annual Statement of Trade of the United Kingdom with Commonwealth and Foreign Countries 1954". No analysis by areas of origin of these imports is available. Figures for 1955 and 1956 are not yet available.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the official estimate of the value of the domestic production of all goods protected by the key industries duty for the years 1954, 1955 and 1956, respectively; and how this total was divided among the different products as classified in the key industries duty Lists 1-8 inclusive.

Information is not available in sufficient detail to allow reliable estimates to be made.

Imperial Preference

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the total value of British imports in the years 1954, 1955 and 1956 which benefited from imperial preference; and how this total was divided according to country of origin, and according to category of product, respectively.

Much detailed information about net imports admitted to preference and retained for home use is published in the supplement to Volume II of "The Annual Statement of the Trade of the United Kingdom with Commonwealth and Foreign Countries 1954" and in the "Annual Report of the Commissioners of H.M. Customs & Excise for the years ended 31st March, 1954, and 1955," while Volume II of the Statement analyses total imports of each commodity by principal countries of consignment. I regret, however, that statistics in the form requested are not available, and could not be prepared without a disproportionate amount of labour.

National Finance

Premium Savings Bonds

35.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many premium bonds have been sold in Scotland during each of the last six months.

Premium Bonds were sold in Scotland to the value of £3,075,321 in November, £385,498 in December. I will send the hon. Member the figure for January as soon as it is known.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he can give the cost, to the latest available date, of administering the Premium Bond Scheme.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 5th February to the right hon. Member for Huyton (Mr. H. Wilson).

Purchase Tax (Administration)

52.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury the annual cost of sending out the notices by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise in respect of Purchase Tax.

The cost of printing these notices last year was about £5,000. It is not possible to estimate the cost of distributing them since the work involved is done by the local staff of the Department as part of the general administration of the tax.

53.

asked the Secretary to the Treasury why notices in respect of Purchase Tax sent out by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise are so complicated; and what proposals he has for simplifying or abolishing them.

They are inevitably complicated because of the many different subjects with which they have to deal. They are essential to the traders concerned who are responsible for charging the tax.

National Insurance Contributions (Tax Relief)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the 6s. 9d. per week or £17 11s. a year paid as contributions to National Insurance is free from Income Tax; and what would be the amount of tax relief in the case of a married man with £10 per week, and a married man with £40 per week arising from the insurance contribution.

The portion of the National Insurance contribution of 6s. 9d. payable by an adult male employee which is allowable as a deduction for tax purposes is 4s. 4d. per week or £11 6s. 8d. a year. The corresponding reduction in tax in the case of a married man without children with an income wholly earned, of £520 (£10 per week) is £2 2s. 9d. and for an earned income of £2,080 (£40 a week) is £6 6s. 0d.

Bank Rate

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in HANSARD a table of figures showing, for each of the years from 1951 until the latest convenient stated date, the additional cost per annum to the nation which has resulted from the Government increasing the Bank Rate; and whether in such tables he will show the estimated increase on each occasion when the Bank Rate was increased.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Louth (Mr. Osborne) on 24th January.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Dehydrated Foods

54.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will state his present plans for continuing and extending the supply to Hungarian and other refugees of dehydrated food from his Department's experimental factory at Aberdeen.

I have no such plans. The small quantity recently given to the Women's Voluntary Service happened to be available from an experimental process which is now obsolete.

Norway Spruce

57.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the approximate number of Norway spruce under the age of 15 years sold by the Forestry Commission during the last six months of 1956.

Pest Destruction Officers, Warwickshire

59.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware of the concern felt by the Warwickshire farming community regarding his intention to withdraw the seven pest destruction officers of their county; and, in view of the value of this service, particularly with respect to rat destruction, whether he will reconsider the matter.

No decision has been made to withdraw these officers, and any future decision would be reached only after consultation with local agricultural interests.

Research Projects

63.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what amounts are allocated from the Exchequer in respect of research projects for agriculture and fisheries, respectively, during the present financial year; and what were the corresponding amounts for the previous year.

I would refer the hon. Member to Appendix A to the Memorandum by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, published in the Civil Estimates and Estimates for Revenue Departments for the years ending 31st March, 1956 and 1957, respectively, which include details of the provision made from Government funds for agricultural and fisheries research and development in these years. For convenience, I am sending the hon. Member appropriate extracts from these documents.

Bulls (Licensing Scheme)

67.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the number of officers in his Department who are concerned with the licensing of bulls; what other work these officers perform; and what is the estimated annual cost of bull licensing in salaries and other expenses.

Eighty livestock husbandry advisory officers of my Department inspect bulls for licensing. They also undertake a wide variety of other work connected with the improvement of livestock and advise farmers on livestock husbandry matters. The estimated annual cost of bull licensing after allowing for receipts from fees is £39,000.

68.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food the number and proportion of bulls rejected to bulls inspected by licensing officers in recent years.

The following is the information:

Year ended 31st MarchBulls inspected by Licensing OfficersBulls rejectedPercentage rejected
195226,7483,16211·8
195323,5532,56610·9
195425,4382,54110·0
195523,0692,2669·8
195621,1772,13410·1

Land Drainage (Report)

69.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is now in a position to make a statement on the Report of the Heneage Committee on Land Drainage; and which of the recommendations Her Majesty's Government accept.

78.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now announce his plans to improve agricultural drainage.

My right hon. Friend is not yet able to add to the reply given to the hon. Member for Anglesey (Mr. C. Hughes) on 6th December last, but he will do so as soon as possible.

Wissington Light Railway

72.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is still his intention to close the Wissington Light Railway in July next; and whether an adequate public highway will be provided in time to take the sugar beet to the Wissington sugar factory for next season's crop.

Yes. My right hon. Friend understands that road facilities are adequate to deal with the extra traffic to the sugar beet factory: and that the British Sugar Corporation propose to build an elevated roadway at their Wissington factory to enable them to receive additional beet by road before the next campaign begins.

Rabbits

74.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to what extent it is estimated the rabbit population is becoming immune to the effect of myxomatosis; what reports he has now received of areas in which rabbits have reappeared after having been apparently eliminated.

While there is no evidence that the rabbit population is developing an inherent resistance to myxomatosis, I must stress that myxomatosis alone can never get rid of this pest. Rabbits are reappearing in small numbers in most areas of the country, and I would urge all concerned to intensify their drive against rabbits during the next few weeks before cover has grown again.

Slaughterhouses

76.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he has taken to implement his policy on slaughterhouses presented in May, 1956.

A Bill is being drafted to give effect to the proposals in the White Paper (Cmd. 9761) and will be introduced as soon as practicable.

Sugar

77.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement in respect to the sugar situation and the prospects for the remainder of the year.

Home prices have been affected recently by fluctuations in the world price of sugar due mainly to the disappearance of the surpluses which have existed in recent years. Supplies of sugar for home consumption in 1957 should be ample: there has been a good beet crop and our Commonwealth supplies are assured under the Commonwealth Sugar Agreement.

Farm Buildings (Design)

79.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, as representing the Lord President of the Council, what action he is taking to promote research into the design and reconstruction of farm buildings.

The Agricultural Research Council are at present giving this matter close attention. In consultation with my own Department and the Department of Agriculture for Scotland, they are setting up a Committee, consisting mainly of persons with technical qualifications, to co-ordinate the work already in progress at various research centres and to recommend further new lines of investigation. It is hoped that this Committee will hold its first meeting early next month.

Egg Marketing Board (Secretaryship)

80.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food by what means the post of secretary to the provisional Egg Marketing Board was publicly advertised before an appointment was made; and what terms, as to length of contract, were offered to the appointed secretary.

This is entirely a domestic matter for the Board and is not one on which my right hon. Friend could give the hon. Member any information.

Egg Marketing Scheme

81.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that the leaflets issued on behalf of the Egg Marketing Board in connection with the proposed ballot state that the Government scheme for guaranteed markets will shortly end and that the scheme on which they will be invited to vote is the only alternative; and what action he took to make it clear that if the producers do not accept the present scheme, it does not necessarily follow that another proposal, also guaranteeing markets at stable prices, is not possible.

The N.F.U.s have been informed that a guarantee through a deficiency payments scheme is practicable; and this alternative is mentioned in leaflets issued by the Egg Marketing Board.

82.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that in the statement issued by the Egg Marketing Board it is stated that producers with under 51 head of poultry must register if they wish in the future to sell any eggs at the packing stations; if he is satisfied that this is in accordance with the assurances given by his Department when the scheme was agreed; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is aware of the statement issued by the Egg Marketing Board about the registration of producers with less than 51 head of poultry. The conditions under which the guarantee is to be made available to these small producers have been the subject of discussion with the Board and it has now been agreed in principle that they will be included in a separate section of the register if they wish to send eggs to packing stations and obtain the guarantee.Arrangements will however be made for their exemption from the main marketing provisions of the Scheme, excepting any levy that may be payable on eggs sent to packing stations.

Employment

Wages (Payment By Cheque)

83.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will now introduce legislation to amend the Truck Acts so that employers can pay wages by cheque.

I am still considering what should be done in the light of the views expressed by the National Joint Advisory Council on 23rd January.

Aircraft Workers, Coventry

84.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will make a statement on the prospects of maintaining the present level of employment among aircraft workers in Coventry.

One firm has already announced that a reduction of its labour force will be necessary. So far as I know, no other substantial decreases in employment are in prospect.

Dundee

86.

asked the Minister of Labour the present figure of unemployment in Dundee; what percentage change this represents compared with the same period a year ago; and in which trades the changes in unemployment have taken place.

3,024 at 14th January, 1957, an increase of 22 per cent. compared with 16th January, 1956. The industries showing the largest increases were printing, engineering, batteries and accumulators, distribution, preserving of fruit and vegetables and jute. There was a reduction in the ship-building and ship-repairing industry.

Leyton

87.

asked the Minister of Labour to what extent unemployment or short time has increased in the Leyton area due to petrol rationing and the Dagenham industrial dispute, respectively.

About 150 men and women registered at Leyton Employment Exchange are thought to be unemployed as a result of petrol rationing, and short-time working affecting 140 is attributed to the same cause. Men and women unemployed as a result of the industrial dispute at Dagenham have registered at the Dagenham Employment Exchange and it is not possible to identify the Leyton residents amongst them.

Messrs Briggs (Dispute)

88.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will appoint a court of inquiry into the present dispute at Messrs. Briggs, Dagenham, with powers to consider the causes of the continual disputes there.

I do not rule out the possibility of such an inquiry but it would not be appropriate at the moment because the dispute which led to the recent strike is still being dealt with under the procedure agreed between the management and the trade unions. I will keep the matter under review.

Home Department

Homosexuality And Prostitution (Report)

91.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he hopes to receive the Report of the Departmental Committee on Homosexuality and Prostitution.

I am informed that the Committee are making progress in the drafting of their report, but I cannot at present say with any certainty when it will be completed.

Passports (Continental Excursions)

92.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will simplify the procedure and official requirements for no-passport pleasure trips to the Continent in 1957.

It has recently been agreed, in consultation with the operating companies, that arrangements for no-passport excursions in 1957 should be on the same lines as in 1956. I do not know what measures of simplification my hon. Friend has in mind, but I am willing to consider any suggestions that are consistent with adequate control.

Air-Raid Shelter, Long Lawford

93.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that the air-raid shelter at Long Lawford is situated at a road junction, causing congestion of traffic at times, and occupies a good building site; and whether he will give permission for its demolition.

I am informed that this shelter stands on the highway verge and does not hinder traffic. I would agree to the demolition of the shelter if specific plans for the development of the land behind it would otherwise be prejudiced, but I understand that there are at present no such plans.

Smoking (Theatres And Public Transport)

96.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take powers to enable the banning of smoking in cinemas, theatres and public transport.

Police (Powers Of Search)

97.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by what authority the Metropolitan Police, in civilian dress, stop people in daylight and challenge them as to the contents of any bags or parcels they may be carrying.

Under Section 66 of the Metropolitan Police Act, 1839, a constable has power within the Metropolitan Police District to stop, search and detain a person reasonably suspected of having or conveying anything stolen or unlawfully obtained. This power is not restricted to constables in uniform or to the hours of darkness.

Shops (Closing Hours)

98.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has had from trade organisations complaining about the proposal in the Shops Bill to advance the closing-time of shops by one hour.

I have received a number of representations that a later hour should be allowed for the sale of confectionery. Two trade organisations—the National Federation of Off-Licence Holders Associations and the Slough Chamber of Commerce—have protested against the proposal to advance the general closing time of shops by one hour. Ten national trade organisations have represented that the general closing time should be advanced by two hours.

Public Houses, Carlisle (State Management Scheme)

99.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the particulars supplied to him by the hon. Member for Carlisle, he will appoint an inquiry to consider the complaints of the public house managers of the Carlisle State Management Scheme.

Yes. I have appointed Mr. C. S. S. Burt, Q.C., to hold an inquiry at Carlisle into certain allegations made by the Civil Service Union.

100.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the fact that the Carlisle State Management Scheme started as an experiment in 1919 and has had no review of a general nature since that made by the Southborough Committee in 1926, he will arrange for a general review of the scheme to be made at an early date.

The last general review of the scheme was by the Royal Commission on Licensing 1929-31 which reported favourably on it. I do not think there are any grounds for any further general review.

Office Workers (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he proposes to introduce legislation to implement the Gowers Report in respect of office workers.

I am not in a position to say when it will be possible to introduce legislation on this subject.

Education

Comprehensive Schools

101.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education how many comprehensive schools are now in existence; how many are in course of erection; and in which local authority areas they are.

On 31st December, 1956, there were 37 comprehensive schools in existence and 11 under construction. The following is the Answer to the last part of the Question:

Local Education AuthorityNumber in existence on 31st December, 1956Number under construction on 31st December, 1956
England
Birmingham2
Coventry5
Lancashire1
Leeds1
London167
Middlesex2
Nottingham1
Staffordshire21
Walsall1
West Bromwich1
Yorkshire, W.R.2
Wales
Anglesey4
Breconshire1
Glamorgan1
3711

Primary And Secondary Schools

102.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education how many new primary and secondary schools were under construction at the latest date for which figures are available; and how these figures compare with those for one year and two years ago, respectively.

The following is the Answer:

NEW SCHOOLS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
31st DecemberPrimarySecondaryTotal
1954407426833
1955333517850
1956328635963

103.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education how many new school places were provided in primary and secondary schools in 1956.

107,600 primary places and 130,600 secondary places were taken into use in 1956. These totals included 39,700 primary and 20,400 secondary places provided by "minor works", i.e., extensions costing less than £10,000 each.

Science Graduates (Teachers)

104.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education if he is satisfied that the necessary increases in the numbers of mathematics and science graduates on the teaching staff of secondary maintained schools between now and 1961 will be achieved; and if he will make a statement.

My noble Friend is by no means satisfied on this point. He will wish to consider how the rate of increase can be improved in consultation with the local education authorities, the universities and other employers of science graduates; but he is not yet in a position to make any further statement.

Secondary School Places, Wales

106.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education the number of new places brought into use in secondary schools in Wales during 1953, 1954, 1955 and 1956, respectively; and whether he will make a statement.

The figures for the four years in question were 3,400, 7,170, 2,710 and 3,790 respectively. These totals included 320, 1,050, 970 and 1,210 places respectively provided by "minor works", i.e. extensions costing less than £10,000 each.

Dagenham (Free Milk)

105.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education whether arrangements can be made to provide school children in Dagenham with free milk during school holidays when their parents are in receipt of unemployment insurance or similar assistance.

No. Under the current Regulations it is not open to local education authorities to make such arrangements.

National Museum Of Wales Schools Service

107.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education what steps have been taken to obtain the participation of the Welsh National Folk Museum in the National Museum of Wales Schools Service; and whether he will make a statement.

This is a matter for the Museum Schools Service Committee which I understand has in fact had this point under consideration. It has not yet found it possible to do what the hon. Member has in mind.

Art Students

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Education how many places for art students there are in technical schools, colleges and universities; how many there were a year ago; and how many are planned for the future.

In the academic year 1955-56 there were 11,515 full-time students in art schools and colleges and art departments in technical colleges. The figures for this year are not yet available. There is spare accommodation in a number of areas, but I have no precise details. Projects for ten art colleges and a number of art departments of technical colleges have been approved for starting in the period 1955-59. Some will replace existing premises and others will provide additional facilities for industrial design, printing and architecture. Corresponding information for the universities is not available.

Formosa (British Shipping)

108.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he has made concerning the attack on 30th January by warships based on Formosa on the British ship "King Bee", which was forced aground and became a total loss on the Chinese coast; and who are the owners of those warships.

I have no information that any such attack took place. According to a report from the master received by the ship's agents in Hong Kong, the "King Bee" missed her way and ran aground on the night of 24th January near to the Chinese port of Amoy. The master and crew are reported to be safe. The ship is believed to be a total loss.

109.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many British ships have been attacked, damaged, or lost because of attacks by armed forces based on Formosa; and what compensation has been paid.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answers given by the then Parliamentary Under-Secretary to the hon. Member for West Ham, North (Mr. Lewis) on 22nd November, 1954, and by Sir Anthony Eden, when Foreign Secretary, to the hon. Member for Deptford (Mr. Dodds) on 7th February, 1955.The Chinese Nationalist authorities have since then paid £3,000 as an

ex gratia payment to the widow of the master of the "Rosita".

Since 7th February, 1955, further attacks have been made on three British ships by Chinese Nationalist forces based on Formosa. In two cases the damage was slight and no claim for compensation was put forward. In the third case, that of the s.s. "Inchwells", this ship was attacked twice, on 9th July and 3rd August, 1955. Damage was severe and a claim is still being formulated. Her Majesty's Consul at Tamsui has protested and reserved the right to claim compensation.

On three occasions Chinese Nationalist batteries on islands off Foochow and Amoy have opened fire when a British ship was in the vicinity. No damage was caused.

Suez Canal And Egypt

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the Government's present policy with regard to the Suez Canal and Egypt.

Her Majesty's Government's policy with regard to the Suez Canal has not changed since my right hon. and learned Friend stated it in reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. du Cann) on 19th December.As regards general relations with Egypt, Her Majesty's Government have, through the Protecting Power, called upon the Egyptian Government to lift all measures taken against British subjects and property during the period of armed conflict, for reasons of military security or otherwise. This would be a first step by the Egyptian Government towards the restoration of more normal relations.

Housing

Council Estates, Liverpool (Building Standards)

110 and 111.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) if he has yet considered the report presented by the Liverpool City Architect and Director of Housing, and of the City Building Surveyor, to the Liverpool Housing Committee on 17th January, 1957, a copy of which has been sent to him, on the standard of construction on the corporation housing estates; and, in view of the admission contained in it of bad workmanship on current contracts, what action he proposes to take to protect the public interest in regard to such contracts, which have been the subject of Exchequer grants on the authority of his Department;(2) whether, in view of the anxiety caused by the report presented by the Liverpool City Architect and Director of Housing to the Liverpool Housing Committee on 17th January, 1957, he will order an inquiry into the allegations of bad workmanship in the construction of corporation dwellings under the authority of his department.

I have read the reports which were sent to me by the hon. Member for Liverpool, Scotland (Mr. Logan). The matters raised appear to be entirely the business of the Liverpool Corporation.

Rent Bill (Deputations)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will give details of the deputations received by him, or his Department, on the Rent Bill; and if he will state the nature of his replies.

I have received no deputation. One from the Key Flats (Maida Vale) Tenants' Association was received by officers of my Department on 9th January. It was informed that its views would be conveyed to the Minister, and that has been done. It was also given an assurance, subsequently confirmed in writing, that the intention of the Bill was not to interfere with the present right of a statutory successor to succeed to the tenancy of a house remaining in control.

Local Government

Water Supplies, Wales (Advisory Committee)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what recommendations have been received from the Council for Wales and Monmouthshire about water supplies in Wales; and whether he will make a statement.

In response to an invitation from my predecessor as Minister of Housing and Local Government, the Council submitted to him the following conclusions reached by its Rural Development Panel:

  • "1. The Panel consider that there should be established an Advisory Water Committee for Wales to survey water requirements and resources and to advise the Minister of Housing and Local Government upon matters connected with the conservation and use of water resources.
  • 2. The Panel also consider that water undertakers seeking powers should, in all cases, be obliged to proceed by way of water order and not by Private Bill, and that, if necessary, legislation should be introduced to make this possible.
  • 3. Where an authority other than a water undertaker seeks directly from Parliament powers affecting water rights, the Panel consider that the Private Bill procedure should be amended so as to enable the appropriate Minister to arrange for objectors to the proposals to be heard locally and that the Minister's report on the Bill should include a resume of the objections so made.
  • 4. Finally, the Panel consider that the establishment of a Water Board for Wales in present circumstances is not a practicable proposition and would not, in any event, affect the position under which one water undertaker can seek supplies in another's area."
  • After careful consideration of these recommendations and after informal consultation with the Chairman of the Council and the Chairman of the Panel, I have informed the Council of my views in a letter as follows:

    "As regards the Panel's first recommendation, the Minister agrees with the proposal that a committee should be set up to advise him on matters connected with the conservation and use of water resources in Wales.
    He considers that as a preliminary step it is desirable to set in train a technical appraisal of the water resources of Wales, and he is arranging for his engineers to begin such an investigation at once. The investigation will be addressed particularly to river flows, and storage and abstraction arrangements in the principal river basins; it will have regard to any sources already earmarked for specific purposes; and it will seek to show, in broad terms, the surplus resources which could reasonably he expected to be obtainable in each basin. It will be appreciated that complete information is not obtainable about river flows, and that a full investigation of sites for controlling works would be impracticable; and conclusions reached must therefore be provisional in character. It is likely to take about twelve months to carry out this investigation.
    Even though the proposed new advisory committee may not be able to discharge its main responsibilities until the results of the technical appraisal are available, the Minister thinks that it is desirable to appoint the committee as soon as possible, so that it may keep in touch with the progress of the survey and may advise, if need be, on any general problems which may he encountered by his engineers in the course of their investigation.
    A further communication will be sent to the Council with regard to the membership and terms of reference of the committee.
    As the Council will appreciate, the second and third recommendations raise important questions affecting Parliamentary procedure generally, and the Minister does not feel able, on the information at present before him, to pursue them further. It was understood at the informal discussion that the Council would probably feel that the appointment of a committee as proposed would go far to meet the difficulties which have been felt.
    The Panel's fourth recommendation is noted."

    Ministry Of Supply

    Arms Expenditure Cuts (Employment)

    112.

    asked the Minister of Supply what steps he is taking to ensure that cuts in arms expenditure are so carried out as to take effect in areas where the minimum of unemployment is likely to be caused.

    When cuts in arms expenditure are under consideration, regard is paid to the effect which they will have on employment and my right hon. Friend keeps in close contact with his right hon. Friends the Minister of Labour and President of the Board of Trade in this connection. If, however, particular cuts must be made, there is often limited choice as to where they will fall.

    Northern Rhodesia

    Secretary Of State's Visit

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will now make a statement on his recent visit to Rhodesia.

    I would refer the hon. and learned Member to my reply on 6th February to a Question by the hon. Member for Rugby (Mr. J. Johnson).

    Ministry Of Health

    Poliomyelitis Vaccine

    asked the Minister of Health what payment has been made out of Government funds for the poliomyelitis vaccine used in May and June, 1956, and in December, 1956; and whether payment is based on the number of doses issued, or how is it calculated.

    Poliomyelitis vaccine is supplied under contract, and payment is based on the amount, in litres, of acceptable vaccine supplied. I regret that it would not be in accord with normal practice to furnish the figures of payments desired by the hon. Member.

    House Of Commons Catering

    asked the hon. Member for Woolwich, West, as Chairman of the Kitchen Committee, if he will publish in HANSARD a table of figures showing a comparison in the prices paid for the various meals in the Members' Dining, Tea, and Cafeteria Rooms, on Monday, 28th January, as compared with the date when the Sessional Allowance for Members was instituted.

    The following is a list of prices charged in the Members' Tea and Cafeteria Rooms for the months of May, 1954, and January, 1957, together

    PRICE LIST
    Members Tea Room and Members Cafeteria
    Jan. 1957May 1954
    Biscuits4d.Portion4d.Portion
    Cream Crackers1d.Each1d.Each
    McVita1d.Each1d.Each
    Slab Cake6d.Portion6d.Portion
    Ice Cream6d.Portion6d.Portion
    Jam Minature Pots5d.Pot
    Jam4d.Portion4d.Portion
    Honey6d.Portion
    Butter1d.Portion1d.Portion
    Bovril5d.Cup5d.Cup
    Milk6d.Glass5d.Glass
    Tea—(M.T.R.)4d.Cup3d.Cup
    Tea7d.Pot6d.Pot
    Tea China8d.Pot7d.Pot
    Coffee6d.Cup5d.Cup
    Coffee9d.Pot7d.Pot
    Horlicks8d.Cup8d.Cup
    Chocolate8d.Cup8d.Cup
    Bread and Butter2d.Round1½d.Round
    Bread and Butter Wholemeal4d.Round3d.Round
    Sandwich Ham1/4d.Round1/3d.Round
    Sandwich Cheese1/2d.Round1/1d.Round
    Sandwich Tomato1/0d.Round1/0d.Round
    Sandwich Egg10d.Round10d.Round
    Rolls2d.Each1d.Each
    Rolls Filled (Various)8d.Each8d.Each
    Welsh Rarebit1/0d.Round
    Veal and Ham Pie1/3d.Slice1/0d.Slice
    Ham1/6d.Portion1/2d.Portion
    Fish and Chips2/0d.Portion1/9d.Portion
    Soup6d.Portion6d.Portion
    Flan8d.Portion6d.Portion
    Apple Tart6d.Portion6d.Portion
    Rock Cake3d.Each
    Buns3d.Each3d.Each
    Chelsea Buns4d.Each4d.Each
    Ring Doughnuts4d.Each4d.Each
    Scones3d.Each3d.Each
    Jam Doughnuts5d.Each5d.Each
    Split Doughnuts6d.Each6d.Each
    Fancy Pastries6d.Each6d.Each
    Village Cheese4d.Portion
    Gruyere Cheese3d.&6d.Portion
    St. Ivel Cheese6d.Portion
    Cheddar Cheese4d.Portion
    Blue Cheese4d.Portion
    Salad Plain1/2d.Portion1/0d.Portion
    Salad Ham2/6d.Portion2/3d.Portion
    Salad Egg1/9d.Portion1/7d.Portion
    Russian Salad6d.Portion
    Potato Salad6d.Portion
    Ham and Tongue3/0d.Portion2/9d.Portion
    Boiled Egg (M.T.R.)6d.Each7d.Each
    Poached Egg on Toast9d.Portion1/0d.Portion
    Sausages and Chips2/0d.Portion1/9d.Portion
    Kippers8d.Each6d.Each
    Haddock1/6d.Each1/3d.Each
    Grape Fruit8d.Portion8d.Portion
    Peaches1/0d.Portion
    Guavas1/0d.Portion
    Paw Paw1/0d.Portion
    Tomatoes4d. & 6d. according to Size and Season
    Fruit6d. & 8d. according to Size and Season

    with copies of the menus in the Members' Dining Room for 24th May, 1954, and 28th January, 1957, respectively.

    BILL OF FARE FOR MEMBERS' DINING ROOM ON MONDAY, 24TH MAY, 1954
    DISHES READY
    HORS D'OEUVRE
    Orange Juice—1/3 Grapefruit—8d. Egg Mayonnaise—1/- Honey Dew Melon—1/6 Hors d'Oeuvre—1/6 Brisling—6d. Buckling—1/- Soused Herring—10d. Herring in Tomato Sauce—1/ Potted Shrimps—2/3 Smoked Salmon—3/6

    SOUPS
    Clear Soup Paysanne—9d. Cream of Lettuce (Lunch only)—9d. Tomato and Barley Cream (Dinner only)—9d.

    FISH
    Fresh Haddock Flamande—2/6Fried Fillet of Sole—3/-
    Fried Fillet of Cod and Chips—1/9Fillets of Sole Choisy—3/6
    Fillets of Plaice Archiduc—3/-Trout Meuniere—3/-

    ENTREES AND JOINTS
    Fried Egg and Bacon—1/9 Irish Stew—2/6 Minced Chicken and Poached Egg—2/6 Braised Ham and Peas—3/- Roast Lamb and Mint Sauce (Lunch only)—2/9 Roast Pork, Apple Sauce (Dinner only)—3/- Grilled Chop and Tomato—4/- Boiled Chicken, Supreme Sauce—5/6 Roast Duck and Apple Fritter—5/6
    Saute of Chicken a la Greque—5/6
    SPECIAL—ROAST TURKEY AND STUFFING—5/6

    COLD TABLE
    Pork Pie—2/- Veal and Ham Pie—2/9 Boiled Ham—3/- Roast Chicken, Leg 4/6; Wing, 6/6 Roast Turkey—5/6

    VEGETABLES
    Potatoes, Mashed, Roast or Boiled—6d.Cabbage—6d.Cauliflower—9d.

    SWEETS
    Ice Cream—Strawberry, Vanilla, Chocolate or Coffee—6d. Apple and Sultana Tart—8d. Swiss Trifle—8d. Caramel Cream—1/- Cold Apple Tart—8d. Compote of Fruit—10d. Meringue Glace—1/- Currant Pudding—6d. Rhubarb Flan—8d. Apricot Melba—2/- Pear Cardinal—1/-

    CHEESE
    Camembert—1/- Gorgonzola—1/ Dutch—9d.

    Gruyere—1/- Cheddar—7d. Pickles and Chutney—6d. Roll or Bread—1d. Butter—1d. Coffee—6d.

    DISHES TO ORDER
    (15-20 minutes)
    Shrimp Cocktail—2/6Spaghetti Napolitain—1/9Rissotto Milanaise—1/9

    FISH
    Trout Meuniere—3/-Shrimp Bouchee—4/6
    Dover Sole Fried, Grilled or Meuniere—5/6

    OMELETTES
    Mushroom Omelette—3/-Ham Omelette—3/-Cheese Omelette—2/6
    Tomato Omelette—2/6Spanish Omelette—2/9Savoury Omelette—2/6

    GRILLS
    Rump Steak—5/- Lamb Cutlets (2)—4/6 Sausages—1/9 Grilled Ham—4/6 Tomatoes—1/-Mushrooms—2/6

    VEGETABLES
    New Peas—1/- Runner Beans—1/- Fried Potatoes—6d. Jacket Potatoes—6d. Braised Onions—6d. New Potatoes—6d. Braised Celery—9d.

    SWEETS
    Lemon or Jam Pancake—2/- Jam Omelette—2/9 Souffle au Liqueur for two (30 minutes)—8/- Souffle Surprise for two (30 minutes)—7/-

    SAVOURIES
    Haddock on Toast—1/6 Soft Roes on Toast—1/6 Welsh Rarebit—1/- 3/3 LUNCHEON 3/3

    Cream of Lettuce or Pilchard in Tomato
    Fried Fillet of Cod or Fresh Haddock Flamande or Grilled Sausages or
    Irish Stew or Cold Meat and Salad
    Spring Greens or Cauliflower
    Roast or Boiled Potatoes
    Currant Pudding, Apple Tart or Ice Cream

    3/3DINNER3/3
    Tomato and Barley Cream or Pilchard in Tomato
    Fried Fillet of Cod or Fillets of Plaice Archiduc or
    Braised Ham and Peas
    or Grilled Sausages or Cold Meat and Salad
    Spring Green or Carrots, Roast or Boiled Potatoes
    Apple Tart, Meringue Glace or Ice Cream

    BILL OF FARE FOR MEMBERS' DINING ROOM FOR MONDAY, 28TH JANUARY, 1957
    DISHES READY
    HORS D'OEUVRE
    Iced Paw-Paw—1/3 Orange Juice—1/5 (half) Grapefruit—11d. Egg Mayonnaise—1/3 Hors d'Oeuvre—2/- Brisling—8d. Buckling—1/6 Soused Herring—10d. Potted Shrimps—2/9 Herring in Tomato Sauce—1/- Melon—2/6 Smoked Salmon—5/- Half-doz. Oysters—6/-

    SOUPS
    Cream of Watercress (Lunch only)—9d. Clear Soup Valois—9d. Cream of Leeks (Dinner only)—9d.

    FISH
    Grilled Herrings, Mustard Sauce—1/10
    Fried Fillet of Cod Breadcrumbed and Chips—2/-
    Fried Fillet of Sole Breadcrumbed, Sauce Tartare—3/9
    Fillet of Plaice Bonne Femme—3/6Fillet of Sole Cancalaise—5/6

    ENTREES AND JOINTS
    Fried Egg and Bacon—2/6 Minced Duck and Apple Fritter—2/6 Mironton of Lamb—2/9 Boiled Brains in Black Butter—3/- Goulash of Beef—3/6 Roast Pork, Apple Sauce (Lunch)—3/6 Roast Beef, Yorkshire Pudding (Dinner)—3/6 Chump Chop Champvallon—5/6 (half) Poussin Chasseur—6/- Roast Turkey and Chipolata—6/- Braised Duck and Pineapple—7/6 SPECIAL—Entrecote Marchand de Vins—8/-

    COLD TABLE
    Cold Roast Beef—3/6 Veal and Ham Pie—3/6 York Ham—4/- Roast Chicken—Leg—5/-, Wing—7/ Ox Tongue—3/6 Steak Pie—3/6 Pork Pie—2/6 Roast Turkey?6/-

    VEGETABLES
    Potatoes, Mashed, Roast or Boiled—6d. Cabbage—6d.

    SWEETS
    Ice Cream—Strawberry, Vanilla, Chocolate or Coffee—6d. Rice Pudding—6d. Cold Apple Tart—9d. Coconut Gateau—9d. Lemon Pudding—9d. Compote of Fruit—10d. Meringue Glace—1/- Chocolate Eclair—9d. Caramel Cream—1/6 Fruit Salad—1/9 Coupe aux Fraises—2/6 Cheese: Dutch—1/-, Camembert—1/6, Gorgonzola—1/6, Stilton—2/-, Cheddar—1/-, Wensleydale—1/6, Gloucester—1/6, Red Cheshire—1/6 Pickles and Chutney—6d. Roll or Bread—2d. Butter—1d. Coffee—9d.

    DISHES TO ORDER
    (15-20 minutes)
    Shrimp Cocktail—3/3 Spaghetti Napolitain—1/9 Rissotto Milanaise—1/9 Spaghetti Bolognaise—2/3

    FISH
    Shrimp Bouchee—5/-Dover Sole Fried, Grilled or Meuniere—6/-

    VEGETARIAN DISHES
    Cheese Salad—2/- Vegetable Salad—2/3 Eggs Mornay—2/6 Mixed Vegetable Pie—2/6

    OMELETTES
    Mushroom Omelette—3/- Ham Omelette—3/- Cheese Omelette—2/9 Tomato Omelette—2/9 Spanish Omelette—3/- Savoury Omelette—2/9

    GRILLS
    Entrecote Steak—7/6 Mixed Grill—6/- Lamb Cutlets (2)—5/6 Loin Chop—5/6 Sausages—1/10 Tomatoes—1/- Mushrooms—2/6

    VEGETABLES
    Green Peas—1/3 Green Beans—1/3 Fried Potatoes—6d. Jacket Potatoes—6d. Braised Onion—6d. Cauliflower—10d. Brussels Sprouts—1/- Braised Celery—1/3 Broad Beans—2/-

    SWEETS
    Pear Helene—3/- Lemon or Jam Pancake—2/- Jam Omelette—3/- Souffle Milady for two (30 mins.)—7/-Souffle Vanille for two (30 mins.)—8/-

    SAVOURIES
    Chicken Livers and Bacon on Toast—1/6 Sardines on Toast—1/6 Welsh Rarebit—1/3 Soft Roes on Toast 1/6

    4/-LUNCHEON4/-
    Cream of Watercress or Brisling
    Grilled Herrings, Mustard Sauce or Fried Fillet
    of Cod or Mironton of Lamb or Roast Pork and Apple Sauce or Cold Meat and Salad
    Cabbage or Mixed Vegetables Roast or Boiled Potatoes
    Lemon Pudding, Coconut Gateau or Ice Cream

    4/-DINNER4/-
    Cream of Leeks or Brisling
    Fillet of Plaice Bonne Femme or Grilled Sausages or
    Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pudding or Cold Meat and Salad
    Cabbage or Cauliflower, Roast or Mashed Potatoes
    Compote of Fruit, Chocolate Eclair or Ice Cream