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Written Answers

Volume 586: debated on Wednesday 16 April 1958

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 16th April, 1958

Ministry Of Defence

Casualties, Malaya

2.

asked the Minister of Defence what is the number of British casualties in killed, wounded, and missing since the commencement in 1948, of the war in Malaya.

I have been asked to reply.The number of casualties to members of the United Kingdom Armed Forces since the commencement of operations against the terrorists in Malaya in 1948 is:

  • Killed, 362.
  • Wounded, 348.
  • Missing, nil.

Defence Services (Re-Organisation)

4.

asked the Minister of Defence if he will make a statement about the progress made with the re-organisation and integration of the defence services.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has no statement to make at present.

Aden-Yemen Frontier

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will now state what decision has been reached regarding the submission of the frontier dispute between Yemen and Aden to the United Nations.

I have nothing yet to add to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member on 19th of February.

Seato And Bagdad Pact (Supply Of Arms)

6 and 7

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (1) to which Governments assistance in arms has been given under the South-East Asia Treaty Organisation Pact; what has been the form of the assistance; and under what conditions it has been provided;(2) to which Governments assistance in arms has been given under the Bagdad Pact; what has been the form of this assistance; and under what conditions it has been provided.

No assistance in arms has been given under the South-East Asia Treaty Organisation. Her Majesty's Government's military contribution under the Bagdad Pact is confined to £500,000 a year for infrastructure. Apart from that, some assistance in arms has been given to certain individual members of the Pact. For the convenience of the hon. Member, I am circulating this information in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Note of Military Assistance Provided to Member Countries of the Bagdad Pact

Iraq

Supplies of arms and equipment to Iraq are governed by the Special Agreement of 1955 (Cmnd. 260) which provides for co-operation in the defence of Iraq, the training and equipment of her forces, the maintenance and operation of air-fields and installations and the maintenance of her forces in a state of efficiency and readiness. Since the conclusion of this Agreement, H.M. Government have provided by way of free assistance:
  • (a) Two Centurion Mark VII tanks;
  • (b) Waiver of payment of £2¾ million for our installations at Habbaniya and Shaifa in return for which Iraqi has spent this amount on arms, equipment and training from the United Kingdom (Cmd. 9695);
  • (c) Six Venom FBL aircraft; and
  • (d) Five Hunter VI aircraft, with spares.
  • In addition, we have contributed towards the maintenance and development of air-fields and other installations in Iraq, and have provided R.A.F. personnel and equipment to assist in the training of Iraqis in radar duties and the cost of the pay and allowances of British loaned personnel.

    Turkey

    A loan of £2.9 million has been made to the Turkish Government to enable thorn to purchase and re-equip four "M" class destroyers (Cmnd. 260).

    Pakistan

    H.M. Government have provided on indefinite loan £40,000 worth of anti-aircraft equipment. (Cmnd. 367.) In addition we have provided training facilities in the United Kingdom for a number of technicians and service personnel.

    Iran

    As part of our offer to the Bagdad Pact of infrastructure up to the value of £500,000 a year, we have undertaken to provide early-warning radar equipment for Iran. Manufacture of this is expected to start very shortly; and we have already sent to Iran on free loan a convoy of mobile radar equipment together with instruction and maintenance staff. Training facilities in this country have also been made available for Iranian service personnel.

    Korea (Chinese Statement)

    8 and 9.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (1) through what agency the consultations on the Chinese People's Government's proposals for disengagement in North Korea are taking place; and whether he will make a statement;(2) what part the Secretary General of the United Nations is taking in the consultations concerning the proposals of the Chinese People's Government for North Korea; and whether he will make a statement.

    The Chinese statement of 7th February on Korea was handed to Her Majesty's Chargé d'Affaires in Peking, who was requested to transmit the text to the Governments which contributed forces to the United Nations Command in Korea. This was done. Representatives of the Governments concerned discussed the Chinese statement in Washington and agreed on the terms of a reply, which was delivered on their behalf to the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs by Her Majesty's Chargé d'Affaires in Peking, on 9th April.The text of the Note is given below. A copy of it has been transmitted to the Secretary General of the United Nations by the United States Government, acting in their capacity as the unified command. The Secretary General has circulated it to all United Nations members.Briefly, the Governments concerned reiterate in the Note their support for United Nations objectives in Korea, welcome the announcement that Chinese forces are to be withdrawn and call for clarification of certain points connected with free elections.

    Her Britannic Majesty's Chargé d'Affaires presents his compliments to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and, on instructions from Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, has the honour to state that, as requested by the Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs on February 7, the statement on Korea made on that date by the Government of the People's Republic of China has been communicated to the Governments of the countries which have contributed forces for the United Nations Force in Korea, who, after consultation, have requested Her Majesty's Government to reply on their behalf.
    The Governments of the countries which have contributed forces for the United Nation's Force in Korea have noted the statement made by the North Korean authorities on
    February 5 and that made by the People's Republic of China and communicated to Her Britannic Majesty's Chargé d'Affaires in Peking on February 7. They have given careful study to these statements and to the proposals made therein.
    The Governments concerned reaffirm that their aim in Korea is to see the establishment of a unified, independent and democratic Korea, in accordance with relevant United Nations Resolutions. To this end, as they have often stated, they wish to see free elections held under United Nations supervision for the constitution of a National Assembly. They are glad to note that the North Korean authorities and the People's Republic of China also favour free elections and they welcome the announcement that Chinese forces are to be withdrawn from North Korea.
    There appears, however, to be some doubt as to the precise interpretation to be placed on the North Korean proposals. A variety of statements is reported to have been made, for example, by North Korean representatives in Peking and Moscow, to the effect that the "purpose of supervision by a neutral nations organization was to see that all political parties and public figures in both North and South Korea would have freedom of action, speech, publication, assembly and association" but that "such supervision should not intervene in the elections". These interpretations appear to call for some clarification and the Governments of the countries concerned would be glad to know whether, when the North Korean authorities speak of a "neutral nations organization" to supervise the elections, they accept that these should be held under United Nations auspices and there should be adequate supervision not only of the preliminaries but also of the elections themselves. They would also be glad to know whether it is accepted that representation in the new National Assembly shell be in proportion to the indigenous population.
    If the People's Republic of China will seek from the North Korean authorities clarification of the points mentioned above with such other details of the Korean proposals as may be relevant, they will be given careful consideration.
    A copy of this reply is being transmitted to the United Nations.

    Supreme Allied Commander Europe

    15.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to which Governments the Supreme Allied Commander Europe is responsible; and by what machinery the individual Governments exercise this responsibility.

    The Supreme Allied Commander Europe is responsible to the supreme military authorities of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation which are the Standing Group and the Military Committee. These authorities are in turn responsible to the North Atlantic Council, on which all the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Governments are represented.

    National Service

    Call-Up

    23.

    asked the Minister of Labour, in view of the difficulty of young men born between 1st October and 31st December, 1939, obtaining permanent employment, and in view of the statement made in the White Paper, Call-up Men to the Forces, 1957 to 1960, whether he is now able to state whether these young men will be called up, and when.

    I have nothing to add to the reply given to the hon. Member for Erith and Crayford (Mr. Dodds) on 5th March, of which I am sending the hon. Member a copy.

    Employment

    Aircraft Industry

    29.

    asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of registered unemployed in the aircraft industry at the latest convenient date.

    Feltham And Hounslow

    30.

    asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of registered unemployed at the Feltham and Hounslow employment exchanges at the latest convenient date.

    At 17th March, 1958, there were 105 men and 31 women registered as unemployed at Feltham Employment Exchange and 287 men and 102 women at Hounslow Employment Exchange.

    Radio Industry

    31.

    asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of registered unemployed in the radio industry at the latest convenient date.

    At 17th March, 1958, the total numbers registered as unemployed were 2,977 in the wireless apparatus and gramophone industry and 428 in the wireless valves and electric lamps industry.

    London Omnibus Dispute

    asked the Minister of Labour what steps he intends to take to assist towards a settlement in the London omnibus dispute in view of the statement of the trade union concerned that they will call a strike for 5th May.

    The House will remember that there were protracted negotiations between the Transport and General Workers' Union and London Transport Executive and that discussions took place with my officers in an endeavour to settle this dispute. The outcome was that both sides agreed to put the case to me for reference to the Industrial Court. The Industrial Court gave its award on 11th March, 1958.Voluntary arbitration by the Industrial Court has always rightly been regarded as the final stage in the settlement of a dispute, and I regret that the award has not been so regarded in this case by one of the parties. I cannot take any action which would have as its object a variation of the Industrial Court award. To do so would be, in effect, to question the award of the Industrial Court, and this I am not prepared to do. I hope, however, that even at this stage the award will be accepted.

    Post Office

    Savings Bank Accounts (Interest)

    32.

    asked the Postmaster-General how many complaints he has had in the last twelve months of the interest due to depositors in the Post Office Savings Bank being wrongly calculated; and whether he has in mind any alteration in the methods used to calculate interest in order to ensure complete accuracy.

    There were some 900 cases, representing roughly 1 in every 25,000 accounts. We are constantly trying to improve performance under the present clerical method of calculation. No alternative method which would be economic has yet been found.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    British Fishing Limits (Convictions)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will tabulate the nations which, during each of the five years, were convicted of

    YearNationalityDate of ArrestPositionPenalty
    1953Belgian16. 2.53Off Wick Head, CaithnessFined £30—catch and gear confiscated.
    Belgian17. 2.53Off Sarclet Head, CaithnessFined £50—catch and gear confiscated.
    Belgian17. 2.53Off Sarclet Head, CaithnessFined £40—catch and gear confiscated.
    Belgian17. 2.53Off Wick Head, CaithnessFined £40—catch and gear confiscated.
    French2. 8.53In Rye BayFined £5—catch and gear confiscated.
    French2. 8.53In Rye BayFined £5—catch and gear confiscated.
    Norwegian16.10.53Off Marwick Head, OrkneyFined £50.
    French28.10.53In Rye BayFined £25 plus £10 costs—gear confiscated.
    French2.12.53Off DungenessFined £10 plus £5 costs—gear confiscated.
    Belgian19. 8.53Off SouthwoldFined £10—catch confiscated.
    1954French22. 4.54Off Vorran Isle, S. UistFined £5—catch and gear confiscated.
    French19. 5.54In Rye BayFined £10 plus £10 costs—gear confiscated.
    French5. 8.54In Rye BayFined £20 plus £5 5s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    French11.10.54In Rye BayFined £20 plus £5 5s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    1955French11. 7.55Off St. Ives Head, CornwallFined £10 plus £2 costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    French18. 7.55In Rye BayFined £20 plus £5 5s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    French2. 9.55In Thames EstuaryFined £20 plus £5 costs.
    Belgian10. 9.55Off SouthwoldFined £10 plus £3 3s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    French11.10.55Off St. Agnes, Isles of ScillyFined £50 plus £5 5s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    French11.10.55Off St. Mary's, Isles of ScillyFined £50 plus £5 5s. costs—part of catch and gear confiscated.
    French5.12.55In Rye BayFined £75 plus £5 5s. costs—gear confiscated.
    1956French9. 4.56In Rye BayFined £50 plus £7 7s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    Belgian9. 8.56Off AldeburghFined £10 plus £3 3s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    1957French1. 7.57Off St. Ives, CornwallFined £10 plus £4 4s. costs—catch confiscated.
    French17. 7.57Off MargateFined £20 plus £7 7s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    French17. 7.57Off Gigha Island, ArgyllFined £25—catch and gear confiscated.
    French20. 8.57Off FoulnessFined £10 plus £8 5s. costs—catch and gear confiscated.
    1958French27. 2.58Off St. Mary's, Isles of ScillyFined £30 plus £7 7s. costs.
    The collection of fines is the concern of the Courts, and the exact date of payment in each case is not known. It is not however the practice to release vessels until fines have been paid or a guarantee of payment made, and it is not believed that there has been any undue delay in payment.

    poaching in British territorial waters, indicating the place and nature of each offence, the amount of each fine and when it was paid.

    Since the beginning of 1953, the masters of the following foreign vessels have been convicted for fishing within British exclusive fishery limits:

    Requisitioned Land

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many acres of agricultural land in England and Wales, respectively, acquired under the Emergency Powers (Defence) Acts, are still in his possession.

    In England there are 5,184 acres and in Wales 184 acres of land requisitioned for agricultural purposes under Defence Regulation 51 still in the Ministry's possession.

    Transport

    Driving Schools

    35.

    asked the Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation if he is aware of the disquiet at the operations of schools of motoring and the costly procedure involved; and whether, in the interests of safety, he will set up national schools of training for learner drivers.

    I do not consider that we should be well advised to set up national training schools for learner drivers.

    Great North Road

    36.

    asked the Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation whether he will give an estimate of the travelling minutes saved by a car of 50 miles-per-hour cruising speed as a result of improvements to the A.1 Great North Road between Edinburgh and London carried out in the last five-year period; and what further saving of time he forecasts as a result of improvements planned for the next five years.

    It is difficult to estimate the saving in journey time because conditions vary, but it is clearly already considerable and will be greater when all the planned improvements have been completed. Travelling conditions will also be safer and easier.

    London Airport (Rail Link)

    asked the Minister of Transport and Civil Aviation whether the suggested railway link to be constructed between London and London Airport will be run by the British Transport Commission as a part of the nationalised railway system or by private enterprise.

    If built, the suggested railway link would be operated by the British Transport Commission.

    National Finance

    Customs And Excise (Personal Case)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by what specific authority Customs and Excise deprived, in circumstances of which he has been informed, Mr. Charles G. Brown, of Aberdeen, of a camera, a gift to him, brought from the United States of America to Great Britain; and under what authority they claim the right to continue to detain, value, and ultimately sell, the camera, and to determine the manner in which, and persons to whom, they will distribute the proceeds of any such sale.

    The authorities are in Sections 257, 275 and the Seventh Schedule of the Customs and Excise Act, 1952.

    Ministry Of Health

    Poliomyelitis Vaccine

    asked the Minister of Health when he expects to be in a position to make the next issue of poliomyelitis vaccine.

    I am making a very early issue of some British vaccine. Production difficulties in the United States have unfortunately retarded the receipt of further Salk vaccine, but I hope that the inevitable delay in receiving further supplies will be short.

    Home Department

    Care Of Children (Adoption)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware of the anxiety caused by the publicity of prospective mothers who are desirous of making pre-natal arrangements for the handing over of their children at birth; and whether he will consider what action is possible, through legislation or other means, to ensure that in the interest of safeguarding the future of these children there should be knowledge of their whereabouts.

    I have seen reports of such cases in the newspapers. No doubt they will have been seen also by the local authorities on whom Part III of the Adoption Act, 1950, places responsibilities for the welfare of infants placed for adoption.

    Housing

    Interest Charges

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he is aware that in the third quarter of 1951 the average tender price of a three-bedroomed council house was £1,403, that the total cost of interest and repayment charges, assuming a loan raised over 60 years at the rate of interest charged by the Public Works Loan Board at the end of the relevant quarter was £3,033 12s. 0d., and that by the third quarter of 1957 the figures were £1,489 and £6,144 16s. 1d., respectively; and when he expects to publish the relevant figures for the fourth quarter of 1957 and the first quarter of 1958.

    Figures for the fourth quarter of 1957 should be available in a month or so, and for the first quarter of 1958 in the early autumn.

    Rent Act, 1957

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will include in his proposed amendment to the Landlord and Tenants Acts a provision empowering county courts to determine that increased rents shall not be charged during the period of any extension granted to a tenant subject to an eviction order.

    The Landlord and Tenant (Temporary Provisions) Bill has been published today, and the hon. Member will wish to study its terms.