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Written Answers

Volume 638: debated on Tuesday 18 April 1961

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 18th April, 1961

Trade And Commerce

Motor Car Sales (American Service Men)

23.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of the instructions given for the discontinuance of the sales of automobiles of British manufacture at United States bases in this country and the instructions to United States personnel in this country that they are to buy American; whether he is aware of the effect these instructions will have on the motor industry of this country and those employed in it; what representations he has made to the Government of the United States of America about their policy which is restrictive of mutual trade; and whether he will make a statement.

Yes. My right hon. Friend has made known to the United States Government his concern over the matter.

Advance Factories, Scotland

asked the President of the Board of Trade what new proposals he has to build more advance factories in Scotland; and if, in view of the continuing high level of unemployment in the Greenock-Port Glasgow area, he will give early consideration to building there.

None at present, but the availability of factory space in Scotland is being kept under review.

China (Trade)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that Mr. Kumaichi Yamamoto, Chairman of the Japanese International Trade Promotion Association, visited Peking recently, and as a consequence greater trade is being done between China and Japan; if he will give an assurance that British traders will be equally free to extend their business with Communist China; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is aware of the recent visit referred to. The consequences on trade between China and Japan have yet to be seen. So far as Her Majesty's Government is concerned British traders will remain free to expand their business with China to the fullest extent possible consistent with the balance of advantage to the United Kingdom. But the actual development of British trade with China also depends on the Chinese.

Knocknairshill, Greenock (Industrial Estate)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his attention has been drawn to the proposal of the corporation of Greenock that an industrial estate might be sited at Knocknairshill, Greenock, to augment the possibilities of industrial development in the area; and what action he proposes to take in the matter.

I am aware of this proposal; officials of the Departments concerned are arranging to examine it in consultation with the local authority.

Ministry Of Works

Royal Palaces (Expenditure)

26 and 27.

asked the Minister of Works (1) why the proposed expenditure on works services of £50,000 on Apartment 1A of Kensington Palace is set down in the Civil Estimates, Class VII, as a provisional estimate;(2) how much public money is to be spent in 1961–62 on No. 1A Kensington Palace.

£5,000 has been provided in the New Works subhead of the Royal Palaces Vote for 1961–62. The total estimate of £50,000 is set down as provisional in accordance with the normal procedure for projects in the early stages of planning.

asked the Minister of Works if he will state the main items of maintenance and repair of Royal Palaces which account for the proposed increase in expenditure of £61,918 in 1961–62 compared with the estimates for 1960–61.

The main items are:

£6,800 for additional costs of day to day cleaning, maintenance and repair of the structure and sanitary services and
£7,500 for additional costs of operation, maintenance and repair of the engineering plant and services. Both these are primarily due to wage awards;
£1,800 for recent increases in employers' National Insurance contributions;
£10,000 for internal and external painting, of which
£2,800 is for Buckingham Palace;
£1,400 for Windsor Castle;
£3,300 for St. James's Palace (State Rooms);
£2,500 for Hampton Court Palace.
The Increase is due to wage awards and the inclusion of arrears of redecoration, previously deferred through lack of funds.
£36,000 for items of special maintenance and repair of the fabric and services, including £6,500 for repairs to eroded stonework at Buckingham Palace, £15,000 for restoration of stonework and partial renewal of lead roofs at Hampton Court Palace, and an additional £24,000 for repairs to the Longford River at Hampton Court Palace; all partly offset by reductions at Windsor Castle.

Regent's Park

asked the Minister of Works if he will have the roadway at the entrance on the north side of Regent's Park between the canal bridge and the Outer Circle widened to take two lanes of traffic entering the park, and thus allow vehicles turning left to filter when those wishing to turn right are stopped.

The traffic advantages of this scheme would be small and it would be necessary also to widen the canal bridge to produce any worthwhile improvement in traffic flow at peak periods. It does not seem that the considerable expenditure likely to be involved would be justified by the small advantage which would accrue to those enjoying the amenities of the Park.

The West Indies, Usa And Canada (Prime Minister's Visit)

37.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his conversations with the West Indian Government regarding the urgent need to control and limit immigration into the United Kingdom.

40.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his official discussions with federal and territorial ministers in the West Indies regarding immigration from their territories.

As I told the House on 13th April, I naturally had some discussions on the problems of migration with the leading personalities in the West Indies. As I made it clear, they are very conscious of our difficulties as we are of theirs. I did not add in any discussions to the position taken by the Government in our recent debate.Great progress is being made with economic and industrial development in the Islands, but there is still the problem of population. Any assistance that any Commonwealth or other country can give will, of course, help, but we are all conscious of the difficulties involved.

41.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his official discussions with federal and territorial ministers in the West Indies regarding the constitution of the Federation.

I tried to make it plain in discussions with West Indian Ministers that it was now up to them to resolve the remaining difficulties concerning their federal constitution. I expressed the hope that at their intergovernmental conference in May they would reach a substantial measure of agreement. This would greatly facilitate our task at the conference opening at Lancaster House on 31st May when we shall, I hope, arrive at an agreed date for the independence of the Federation.

44.

asked the Prime Minister to what extent he discussed the question of nuclear strategy and Polaris bases with the Canadian Prime Minister.

My discussions with Mr. Diefenbaker were, in general, confidential. I am not prepared to disclose particulars of any discussions that I may have had with him about defence matters.

45.

asked the Prime Minister whether he discussed with President Kennedy the need to maintain or increase the British conventional contribution to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

The question of the organisation of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation did arise in the course of our discussions. There is, I understand, to be a general review in the North Atlantic Council of the Whole problem of the character and size of forces. Meanwhile, we have Treaty obligations which we are carrying out.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Departmental Staff (Travelling Expenses)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will state the approximate cost of travelling expenses per head of persons employed in his Department for 1960.

The approximate cost of travelling and subsistence expenses in 1960 per head of persons employed in the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food was £94.

Private Woodlands

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many loans have been made to private woodland owners in England and Wales, separately, in each of the last five years; how much they totalled in each year; and what were the highest and lowest loans.

The number of loans made and the annual amounts are shown in the following table. The highest loan was £8,000 and the lowest £250.

LOANS MADE TO PRIVATE WOODLAND OWNERS IN ENGLAND AND WALES IN 1956–1960
Year ended 30th SeptemberEnglandWales
Number of LoansTotal amountNumber of LoansTotal amount
££
1956711,850
19571118,890
19581017,05023,250
19591526,40021,300
1960819,95021,750

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many grants have been paid to private woodland owners in England and Wales, separately, in each of the last five years; how much they totalled in each year; and what were the highest and lowest grants.

The number of schemes on which grants were paid and the total annual payments are shown in the following table. The highest individual grant payment was £4,840 and the lowest £3 15s.

GRANTS PAID TO PRIVATE WOODLAND OWNERS IN ENGLAND AND WALES IN 1956–1960
Year ended 30th SeptemberEnglandWales
Number of SchemesTotal PaymentsNumber of SchemesTotal Payments
££
19562,730253,31956241,302
19572,999298,99253955,564
19583,554352,25253764,538
19593,283483,22853481,379
19603,180625,06550497,337

Forestry Fund

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what sums have been paid to the Forestry Commission in aid of the Forestry Fund in England and Wales, separately, in each of the last 10 years.

The grant-in-aid of the Forestry Fund is voted for Great Britain as a whole. The following table shows the annual net amounts issued from the Fund for operations in England and Wales, with an estimated apportionment of central expenditure, such as salaries and capital items of equipment:

Year ended 31st MarchEnglandWales
££
19512,127,0001,376,000
19521,968,0001,579,000
19532,085,0001,676,000
19542,329,0001,677,000
19552,570,0001,729,000
19562,810,0001,906,000
19573,289,0002,077,000
19583,407,0002,169,000
19593,524,0002,362,000
19604,098,0002,465,000

Agricultural Pests (Advisory Council)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the functions of the Advisory Council on Rabbit Clearance.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland and I have decided to extend the purview of the Advisory Council on Rabbit Clearance to include other agricultural pests. The members of the Council have been good enough to agree to an extension of their terms of reference. These are now:

"To advise on measures for expediting rabbit clearance and on other matters referred to them in connection with the effective control of mammals and birds harmful to agriculture."
My hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary to my Department will be Chairman of the reconstituted Council.The Land Pests Advisory Committee has been dissolved and I do want to express my thanks to the Committee for the help which I have received from it. Mr. A. D. Middleton and Mr. F. W. Ward, formerly members of the Committee, and Mr. J. F. Holman and Mr. W. B. Swan have been appointed to the new Council.

Royal Air Force

Usaf Base, Sculthorpe

asked the Secretary of State for Air what is to be the future use of the United States Air Force base at Sculthorpe, Norfolk; and if he will make a statement.

Colonial Territories

Officers (Increments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what factors are taken into consideration when the work of an officer is being assessed to decide if an annual increment should be paid to him.

The decision is for the Governor, and the efficiency, diligence and fidelity with which an officer has discharged his duties are taken into account.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies when the head of a department reports that an officer's work and conduct have been so unsatisfactory as to merit a recommendation that his probationary appointment be terminated, under what circumstances an annual increment can still be paid to him.

Increments are payable by sanction of the Officer Administering the Government who has authority to decide in what circumstances they may be paid.

Malaya

Mr D C Hill

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies why annual increments for having, in accordance with Colonial Regulations, discharged his duties with efficiency, diligence and fidelity, were paid to Mr. D. C. Hill for each year of his probationary service in Malaya, even after the termination of his appointment, in view of the fact that his appointment was terminated on the grounds of inefficiency.

The decision to grant Mr. Hill increments was a matter for the High Commissioner, and I have no information about the grounds for his decision.

Malta

Constitution

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he has decided on a date on which the new constitution of Malta will become operative; and if he will make a further attempt to reach agreement with the representatives of the Maltese people before that date.

I cannot at present add to my statement of 8th March. I said I hoped it would be possible to hold elections before the end of the year. Of course I remain very willing to meet representatives of any or all the Maltese political parties, if they so wish, to discuss the reintroduction of elected government in Malta. I have told Mr. Mintoff this in reply to a recent approach by him. My statement of 8th March makes clear the basis on which such consultations could usefully take place.

Nigeria

Overseas Service Act

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations whether the arrangements recently made by Her Majesty's Government in the Overseas Service Act have been accepted by Nigeria; and if he will make a statement.

The Nigerian Federal Government and the Regional Governments decided after careful consideration that they did not wish to avail themselves of the arrangements offered by this scheme.

Hospitals

Special Hospitals (Report)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will now give a date for the publication of the Report of the Working Party on the Special Hospitals; and if he will make a statement.

The report is published today. Its main recommendations are as follows:

  • 1. All three Special Hospitals should be used for patients with dangerous, violent or criminal propensities, whether they have been before the courts or not.
  • 2. Patients in these Hospitals should be grouped according to their medical needs and there should be greater specialisation.
  • I accept these recommendations and am considering the rearrangements which will be necessary at the Hospitals.3. Patients should be accepted for admission to the Special Hospitals only after other possibilities have been carefully examined and found to be unsuitable.4. To reduce the need for admissions to the Special Hospitals, Regional Hospital Boards should arrange their psychiatric services so as to provide various types of hospital unit, including some secure units.I accept these recommendations. Hospital authorities have been asked to implement No. 4, and will be advised on the steps they should take to enable me to implement No. 3.

    5. Diagnostic and treatment centres should be provided within the National Health Service for patients who present exceptional difficulty because of their aggressive, anti-social or criminal tendencies combined with special problems of diagnosis, treatment and management. One or two such centres should be provided initially, to gain experience.

    I am discussing the establishment of such centres with certain regional hospital boards.

    Home Department

    Departmental Staff (Travelling Expenses)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will state the approximate cost of travelling expenses per head of persons employed in his Department in 1960.

    Including travelling, subsistence and removal expenses, as these cannot readily be separated, the approximate figure for Home Office staff was £32 10s. The corresponding figure for Prison Commission staff, excluding the cost of escorting and conveying prisoners, was £25 15s.

    Local Government

    Departmental Staff (Travelling Expenses)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will state the approximate cost of travelling expenses per head of persons employed in his Department for 1960.

    The cost per head of travelling expenses and subsistence, which I cannot separate, was approximately £59 in 1960. About one-third of the staff of the Department have to travel constantly in the course of their duties.

    National Parks Commission

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what were the amounts spent each year since the National Parks Commission was set up on the acquisition and management of land, separately, under the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act, 1949.

    The Minister's power to acquire land in a national park by agreement, and to arrange for its management, has not been exercised.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what were the sums granted to the National Parks Commission in each year since it was set up.

    The expenses of the National Parks Commission are mainly defrayed out of the Ministry of Housing and Local Government's Vote, the cost of accommodation, printing and other services being met out of the Votes of other Departments. The total cost in each year is shown below:

    £
    1949–19501,642
    1950–195117,569
    1951–195224,776
    1952–195322,441
    1953–195423,843
    1954–195527,287
    1955–195633,539
    1956–195738,359
    1957–195840,920
    1958–195942,174
    1959–196045,737
    1960–196152,431

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what have been the amounts of grants each year since the National Parks Commission was set up to local authorities in respect of expenditure incurred in national parks and areas of outstanding natural beauty.

    The amounts of grants paid in England and Wales were:

    £
    1954–19552,956
    1955–19567,497
    1956–19573,475
    1957–19585,017
    1958–19594,784
    1959–19606,546
    1960–196114,122
    No grants were payable before 1954, when the grant regulations came into force.

    Scotland

    Further Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the list of 46 further education establishments providing pre-employment courses in the session 1959–60, with the numbers of students attending each establishment; and if he will indicate in a comparable table what proposals he intends making to local education authorities for the expansion of such courses in Scotland in the new session 1961–62.

    The following is the list:

    Name of CentreNo. of Students
    Aberdeen, Robert Gordon's Technical College27
    Aberdeen Trades College159
    Aberdeen Pre-Nursing College166
    Aberdeen Commercial College236
    Dundee Institute of Art and Technology22
    Dundee Trades College208
    Dundee. Seymour Lodge Pre-Nursing College131
    Dundee Commercial College125
    Edinburgh, Leith Nautical College122
    Edinburgh, Dean College316
    Edinburgh, Castlehill School of Baking and Catering26
    Edinburgh, School of Building and Crafts109
    Edinburgh, W. M. Ramsay Technical Institute163
    Edinburgh, Torphichen Street Commercial Institute402
    Glasgow, The David Dale College446
    Glasgow, Langside College270
    Glasgow, Stow College of Printing42
    Glasgow, Stow College of Building54
    Glasgow, Logan and Johnston College231
    Ayr Technical College65
    Ayrshire, Kilmarnock Technical College151
    Dumfriesshire, The Barony School14
    Dumbarton, Lennox Technical College28
    Fife, Kirkcaldy Technical College233
    Fife, Pre-Nursing College82
    Fife, Buckhaven Technical College52
    Fife. Cowdenbeath Technical College74
    Inverness Technical High School35
    Kirkcudbrightshire, Castle Douglas School of Commerce26
    Lanarkshire, Burnbank School of Engineering210
    Lanarkshire, Cambuslang School of Building60
    Lanarkshire, Coatbridge Technical College423
    Lanarkshire, Kersewell College10
    Midlothian, Esk Valley College122
    Moray and Nairn, Elgin Girls' Technical School25

    Name of Centre

    No. of Students

    Moray and Nairn, Elgin Pre-Nursing School41
    Perthshire, Lawers School of Agriculture35
    Perth High School46
    Renfrewshire, Greenock Watt Memorial School14
    Ross and Cromarty, Lews Castle College, Stornoway80
    Ross and Cromarty, Nicolson Institute, Stornoway26
    Ross and Cromarty, Duncraig Castle School34
    Stirlingshire, Uplands Further Education Centre44
    Stirlingshire, Blackbraes Further Education Centre6
    Stirlingshire, Falkirk County Trades School29
    Sutherland Technical School28
    Total5,248

    It is not for me but for the education authorities, in the light of their knowledge of local requirements, to make proposals for specific courses. I invited authorities in November, 1960, to submit schemes for further education in session 1961–62 and, in Circular No. 450 (of 20th February, 1961) of which I am sending the hon. Member a copy, I asked them to give special consideration to the provision of pre-vocational courses. As a consequence I have, so far, received the following proposals:

    Centre

    Number of New Courses

    Aberdeen Trades College3
    Glasgow, Langside College2
    Ayr Technical College1
    Dumfries Day Release Centre3
    Fife, Cowdenbeath Technical College1
    Fife, Elmwood Agricultural College2
    Fife, Kirkcaldy Technical College2
    Lanarkshire, Clydesdale College3
    Lanarkshire, Carfin Pre-Vocational Centre1
    Midlothian, Esk Valley College1
    Sutherland Technical School1

    Cairnhill House, Airdrie

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the decisions which have now been made by the appropriate local authority, he will now authorise the replacement of the 300-year-old Cairnhill House, Airdrie, which is being used as a home for blind persons.

    My information is that the joint committee of the 23 local authorities responsible for Cairnhill House have decided not to replace the Home after they cease to use it. They intend, I understand, in the course of the next two or three years to find accommodation for the residents in Homes for the aged and infirm in the areas of the several authorities.

    Police, Holy Loch (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional police expenditure has been necessary in the Holy Loch area during this year; and what is the estimated additional police expenditure during the next financial year.

    I understand that no additional expenditure has been incurred hitherto, and that there seems to be no reason why it should become necessary in the next financial year, so far as police work in the Holy Loch area is concerned.

    Hill Sheep Subsidy

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether a decision has yet been reached on the payment of hill sheep subsidy for the current year.

    I shall lay before the House shortly Statutory Instruments re-enacting the Hill Sheep Subsidy Scheme and fixing a rate of 3s. 6d. per breeding ewe which will be calculated on the number of eligible sheep in the flock at 4th December, 1960. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food is taking parallel action for England and Wales, and for Northern Ireland, in which countries 3s. 6d. will be the standard rate.

    Education Authority Colleges

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report an up-to-date statement including the actual or estimated starting times and the actual or estimated date of completion of the 21 new local colleges and 13 major extensions to additional colleges within the technical education building programme.

    NEW EDUCATION AUTHORITY COLLEGES
    ActualEstimated
    Starting dateCompletion dateStarting dateCompletion date
    Thurso Technical College2.588.59
    Inverness Technical College3.598.60
    Stow Colleges of Building and Printing, Glasgow5.595.63
    Commercial and Distributive Trades College, Glasgow9.595.63
    Falkirk Technical College9.597.62
    Aberdeen Technical College2.611.64
    Kilmarnock Technical College2.615.64
    Ayr Technical College2.616.64
    Barmulloch College, Glasgow3.614.64
    Dundee Trades College4.61Summer 1963
    Arbroath Further Education Centre4.6111.61
    Langside College, Glasgow5.618.64
    Anniesland College, Glasgow7.6110.64
    Clydebank Technical College7.6111.63
    Napier Technical College, Edinburgh7.61Autumn 1964
    Bathgate Technical College3.6211.63
    Galashiels Technical Centre5.629.63
    Esk Valley College, Midlothian9.627.65
    Glasgow Nautical School11.628.65
    Greenock Technical CollegeNot yet available
    Dundee Commercial CollegeNot yet available
    EDUCATION AUTHORITY COLLEGES—MAJOR EXTENSIONS
    ActualEstimated
    Starting dateCompletion dateStarting dateCompletion date
    Kilmarnock Technical Further Education College10.571.58
    Bristo Technical Institute, Edinburgh6.579.58
    Stow College of Building, Glasgow12.5710.58
    Dumfries Further Education Centre9.5812.58
    Golspie, Sutherland Technical College9.5812.59
    Kinning Park Catering and Bakery School, Glasgow8.599.60
    Perth Temporary Further Education Centre4.604.61
    Reid Kerr College, Paisley5.6012.61
    Kirkcaldy Technical College*9.606.66
    Thurso Technical College4.6111.62
    Stow College of Engineering, Glasgow8.618.63
    David Dale College, Glasgow5.628.64
    Buckhaven Technical College8.61†2.62
    7.637.65
    * Three phases totalling £1,045,100: two years each phase.
    † Temporary scheme.

    Roads

    Shaftesbury Avenue-New Oxford Street Junction

    asked the Minister of Transport what are his plans for improving the circulation of traffic at the junctions of Shaftesbury Avenue with

    The following tables gives the required information:Prince's Circus and New Oxford Street, W.C.2.

    The one-way working scheme soon to be introduced in the Tottenham Court Road-Gower Street area should considerably improve traffic circulation at these junctions.