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Written Answers

Volume 641: debated on Tuesday 30 May 1961

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 30th May, 1961

Ministry Of Works

Old Manor House, Deal

4.

asked the Minister of Works what progress has been made in the discussions about the preservation of the Old Manor House, Deal, and con version for modern use.

On the advice of the Historic Buildings Council for England, I offered the Deal Corporation a grant of £2,500 towards the cost of structural repairs to the Old Manor House; but even with this help the Corporation did not feel able to undertake its preservation. I understand that the building has now been demolished.

Local Government

Public Inquiries

5.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many public inquiries were held by his Department in 1960; and in how many of these he decided in favour of the reports submitted to him by his inspectors.

About 6,500 public inquiries were held in 1960 and my right hon. Friend accepted his inspectors' recommendation in about 93 per cent. of the cases decided. The remaining 7 per cent. includes cases where he differed from the inspector only in matters of detail.

Office Building (London Area)

9.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what steps Her Majesty's Government is taking to limit new office building in Greater London; and whether he will state the total of new office space in square feet built in the London and south-eastern region in 1958, 1959, and 1960.

This is mainly a central area rather than a Greater London problem. It is the policy of the local planning authorities and of the Government to check expansion in the central area by restricting the areas zoned for offices and the size to which offices can be built. Firms are also encouraged to move to new or expanding towns.The London County Council estimates that, new office space built in the central area of the County of London in 1958, 1959 and 1960 was approximately 4,800,000 sq. feet, 5,500,000 sq. feet, and 5,400,000 sq. feet, respectively. I regret that no figures are available for other areas.

Crown Lands, Green Belts

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs to what extent under his regulations Crown Land within a Green Belt is subject to different planning considerations from other such land.

Crown land is not subject to planning control, but the same planning considerations are taken into account in the case of Crown development in a green belt as in the case of comparable private development.

Green Belts (Building Proposals)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs under what circumstances his Department arranges public meetings, as distinct from local public inquiries, into proposals to build on land within a green belt.

It is not my practice to arrange public meetings as distinct from public local inquiries.

New Prison, Essex

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will publish the text of the Press statement made by his Department on 5th January, 1961, regarding the proposal for a new prison at Hill Hall, Essex.

The statement was as follows:The Government has rejected a proposal by the Prison Commissioners to use Thornwood War Department Camp, near Harlow, Essex, as a semi-secure prison for women. They have decided that the prison should be built on a site at Hill Hall, Essex.

A public inquiry into the proposal to use Thornwood Camp was held on 5th July, 1960. In his report to the Minister of Housing and Local Government, the inspector who held the inquiry said that the need for a prison of this type had to be accepted and that Thornwood Camp was a most suitable site in relation to the area intended to be served. It was logical though not essential when choosing a site to prefer Crown property or a site where suitable buildings already existed.

Points in favour of using Thornwood Camp were, in general, economic or operational rather than planning issues. Residents' fears as to security he thought unjustified having regard to the precautions to be taken and experience elsewhere. It was difficult to assess the possible effects on property values but he thought any fall would be confined to properties in Carpenters Arms Lane.

The inspector considered that the main objection related to violation of the green belt. To establish a prison would involve building many new buildings contrary to green belt policy. The site was particularly vulnerable because of its exposed position when viewed from the south and south-west. Because of its size in relation to the village and close proximity to houses, the camp tended to upset the balance of development. Residential atmosphere would suffer.

In the past the planning authority had taken measures to prevent and even remove unacceptable green belt development. If they now had to accept the prison, future planning proposals would become more and more difficult to substantiate on appeal.

The inspector recommended that on balance the planning objections against the proposal should override the economic and operational advantages, though he recognised that the question would have to be considered in the light or national need.

The Home Secretary and the Minister of Housing and Local Government decided to accept the inspector's recommendation. At the inquiry the planning authority had intimated that they would not offer any objection to the establishment of the prison on a site at Hill Hall, for although this alternative site is also within the green belt, development there would in their view be less obtrusive. The Ministers agreed with this view and decided that the prison should be built at Hill Hall.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will give urgent consideration to the requests of the Theydon Mount Parish Council, the Epping and Ongar Rural District Council and the Essex County Council for a local public inquiry to be held into the proposal to build a new prison at Hill Hall, Theydon Mount; and whether he will make a statement.

I have discussed this matter with my Eight hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Home Affairs who agrees that in the particular circumstances of this case it will be better to arrange for the objections into the proposal to build a new prison at Hill Hall, Theydon Mount, Essex, to be heard at a public local inquiry rather than at the public meeting which had been proposed. I will make arrangements accordingly.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether it was with his authority that a statement was made by his Department to the Essex Press in March, 1961, to the effect that a new prison was to be built at Hill Hall, Theydon Mount, and that any objections should have been made at the local public inquiry into an earlier proposal to build the new prison at Thornwood.

As far as I can discover, the only statement made to the Press by my Department on this matter was that dated 5th January, 1961, and referred to by my hon. Friend in another Question.

Malta

Civil Servants (Salaries)

18.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he is aware that claims made by the civil servants of Malta in 1956 have not yet been considered, and that this delay is causing resentment among this section of Government employees; and if he will take steps to have these long standing claims settled by joint negotiations or through arbitration.

The claims referred to by the hon. Member were submitted to a Commission whose recommendations were not accepted by the Malta Government of the day.All civil servants in Malta have since then received an interim pay increase of 6 per cent. in 1957 and, following an Agreement negotiated with the Staff Associations in November, 1959, revised salaries, retrospective to 1st April, 1959, were introduced for all Malta Government civil servants, subject to negotiation in detail. These negotiations are now in progress.

Trade And Commerce

Coal (Import Licence Application)

30 and 31.

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he will state the tonnage of Virginian coals from the United States of America for which the Steel Company of Wales has recently applied for an import licence; what length of time such tonnage is intended to last the company; whether it is the total coal requirement of the company for that period or a part of it only; and what the annual tonnage rate of such coal imports would be assessed at on the basis of the application made by the company;(2) for balance of payments purposes, what evaluation in dollars he has made on the application of the Steel Company of Wales to be permitted to import Virginian coals from the United States of America to South Wales ports, both inclusive and exclusive of freights; and

UNITED KINGDOM EXPORTS TO CHINA
Value = £'000
CommoditiesJune-December, 1957195819591960January-March, 1961Total, June, 1957 to March, 1961
Metal working machine tools (including parts)16·560·8115·2875·551·11,119·1
New tractors—other than steam (including parts)2·1796·8366·5105·4251·91,522·7
Iron and steel406·64,259·05,468·25,932·9826·716,893·4
Non-ferrous base metals47·66,236·05,312·39,301·8227·921,125·6

Science

Machine Tool Industry (Technical Assistance)

34.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science what applications the firms, numbering approximately 110, who are sub-contractors to the machine tool industry, have made to him for technical assistance in order to achieve a greater degree of standardisation and technical proficiency.

None, Sir; but I understand that the Machine Tool Industry Research Association, when it is fully established, proposes to provide technical assistance both to the industry and to its sub-contractors.

Lung Diseases

36.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science if he will request the Medical Research Council, in its research into the causes and treatment

whether the import licence applied for stipulates United States or British freight ships to carry the coals.

It is not the practice to disclose particulars of applications for import licences by individual firms.

Exports To China

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the value of United Kingdom exports to China of machine tools, tractors, iron and steel and non-ferrous metals, respectively, since the embargo on the shipment of these goods to that destination was lifted in May, 1957.

Following is the information:of bronchitis and other lung diseases, to investigate the claims of nature cure.

Beaches (Oil Contamination)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science if he will arrange for all suggestions from the Warren Spring Laboratory for dealing with oil contamination of beaches to be sent automatically to Edinburgh Corporation and other coastal local authorities in Scotland.

The Warren Spring Laboratory of the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research has made arrangements to ensure that the Corporation of Edinburgh and other coastal local authorities and river purification authorities in Scotland are kept informed of the results of the Laboratory's work on the problem of oil contamination of beaches.

Shipping

Shipbuilding Advisory Committee (Sub-Committee's Recommendations)

53.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is yet in a position to state what steps he proposes to take on the results of the recent inquiry by the special sub-committee of the Shipbuilding Advisory Committee into the problems of the shipbuilding and ship-repairing industry, with special reference to Aberdeen and the north-east of Scotland generally.

Three of the recommendations of the sub-committee of the Shipbuilding Advisory Committee were addressed to the Government. One of these was about credit facilities. The measures announced last month by the President of the Board of Trade are relevant to this. I am considering the other two, which related to possible scrapping schemes and orders for Government-owned ships. None of the recommendations had special reference to the northeast of Scotland.

Royal Air Force

Disused Runway, Fulbeck (Hire Charge)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Air why the Lincoln shire Kart Racing Club is charged £50 a day for the use of a disused Royal Air Force runway at Fulbeck, Lincolnshire; whether he is aware that such a charge puts in jeopardy the continued existence of this club; and whether, in future, he will charge merely a nominal sum.

£50 a day is the standard minimum charge for all events of this kind which are open to the public; for events restricted to club members and their friends the charge is only £5 a day. We are at present reviewing these charges.

British Army

Land, Lincoln (Disposal)

55.

asked the Secretary of State for War whether, in any disposal of surplus War Office land in Lincoln, he will ensure that no playing fields, parade grounds or gardens are sold for building.

I regret that I cannot give an undertaking of this kind. I can however assure the hon. Gentleman that we shall follow the recognised procedure for the disposal of Government land, and the Lincoln City Council will be consulted.

Bechuanaland

Bushmen (Game Reserve)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations (1) if the decision to demarcate 19,000 square mile reserves for the bushmen of the Bechuanaland Protectorate has his approval; and what legislation is being brought forward to make this land secure for them;(2) if bushmen of the Bechuanaland Protectorate at present living outside the proposed reserves will have their customary rights preserved in areas where they have lived;(3) what financial provisions are to be made for sinking wells and bore holes in the proposed reserves for the bushmen of the Bechuanaland Protectorate; and what provision is proposed to give the bushmen help in establishing themselves as agriculturalists and stock owners When they want to make this change in their way of life.

The answer to the first part of the first Question is "Yes", and to the second part that legislation is at present not considered necessary as a demarcated area (of approximately 19,000 square miles) in the eastern part of Ghanzi Crown Lands, Bechuanaland Protectorate, has been declared a Reserve, to be known as "The Central Kalahari Game Reserve" under subsection (1) of section five of the Game Proclamation (Chapter 114 of the Laws of the Bechuanaland Protectorate, 1948). Detailed regulations are being prepared which will control the entry into this area of persons other than bushmen.Bushmen living outside the new Reserve will continue to exercise customary rights in those areas where they have not adopted the Bechuana way of life. In areas where they follow closely the Bechuana way of life bushmen are subject to the same laws as govern other inhabitants of Tribal areas.

A preliminary survey of potential bore holes in the Game Reserve area is to be made soon.

In general the Government's policy is to enable bushmen to retain their present way of life undisturbed and where they wish to abandon primitive life, to encourage them to adapt themselves to modern conditions. The detailed application of this policy, however, will depend in large measure upon the recommendations of the comprehensive bushmen survey now being conducted.

Government Information Services

Television Programme (Transmission To Russia)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what facilities he is making available on the occasion of the television transmission of the Trooping the Colour, to enable Russian television viewers to see other aspects of conditions of life in Great Britain, such as an ordinary home, a popular chain store and similar everyday features.

In its overseas broadcasting, as in its home broadcasting, the B.B.C. enjoys independence of programme content. I understand from the B.B.C. that in addition to the Trooping the Colour ceremony the Russian viewers will also see a television programme showing something of London and its people.

Home Department

New Prison, Essex (Public Inquiry)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it was with his authority that a Home Office spokesman said in March, 1961, that the proposal to build a new prison at Hill Hall, Theydon Mount, had been finally decided and that any objections should have been made at the local public inquiry into an earlier proposal to build the new prison at Thornwood.

I am not aware that any officer of my Department made such a statement. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government and I have had under consideration representations about the siting of a prison at Hill Hall. I had proposed to the county council that the matter should be further examined at a public meeting; but in the particular circumstances I have agreed that the better course will be for the objections to be heard at a public local inquiry for which my right hon. Friend is making arrangements.

West Indian Immigrants

asked the Secretory of State for the Home Department whether, having regard to the unsatisfactory housing conditions to which West Indian immigrants are being subjected, both with regard to overcrowding and rent exploitation, he will now restrict the intake of immigrants to those with a labour permit proving that they have a guarantee of employment and also reasonable housing accommodation; and whether he will apply such restrictions until he has had an opportunity of a full investigation into the whole problem, in the interests of intending immigrants.

These matters are all being considered, but I am not at present in a position to make a statement.

Scotland

Home Accidents (Deaths)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT in tabular form a statement showing the number of deaths and injuries of people in their homes in Scotland last year, specifying the causes of death and injuries.

Accidents in the home caused 1,050 deaths in Scotland during 1960, made up as follows:

Poisoning by solid and liquid substances73
Poisoning by gases and vapours196
Falls514
Fire, explosion, hot substance, etc.93
Suffocation143
Other and unspecified accidents31
Total1,050
There is no means of ascertaining the total number of injuries so caused.

Expectant And Nursing Mothers (Vitamin Supplements)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what was the percentage of mothers entitled to vitamin supplements in Scotland in 1960; and what were the percentages of uptake of vitamin tablets, cod liver oil and orange juice, respectively, in 1960;(2) what was the percentage of mothers entitled to vitamin supplements in the Burgh of Greenock in 1960; and what are the percentages of uptake of vitamin tablets, cod liver oil and orange juice, respectively in 1960.

All expectant and nursing mothers are entitled to vitamins A and D tablets. The uptake of these in 1960 was in Scotland about 20 per cent. of the possible total, and in Greenock about 16 per cent. Cod liver oil is available as an alternative to vitamin tablets for expectant mothers, and such mothers can also have concentrated orange juice; these items are taken also by young children, and separate figures of consumption by mothers are not kept by the local authorities. The uptake of orange juice and cod liver oil as a percentage of potential demand for all beneficiaries in 1960 was:

Orange JuiceCod Liver Oil
Per cent.Per cent.
Scotland31·99·8
Greenock28·67·2