Written Answers To Questions
Monday, 27th November, 1961
Coal
Coking Coal
2.
asked the Minister of Power if he is aware that British steel works pay £7 a ton for coking coal whereas the European steelmakers are buying equivalent fuel from the United States of America below £5 10s. per ton; and if he will, in consultation with the National Coal Board, take steps to remove this handicap to British exports of steel.
I am anxious to do all I can to encourage exports, but the figures quoted apply only to some British coking coal and a small proportion of the coking coal used in Europe. Exact comparison is difficult, but I do not believe that there is much difference between coking coal prices generally in Europe and in this country.
Smokeless Fuel Supplies, Thurrock
asked the Minister of Power whether he will give an assurance that adequate supplies of suitable fuel will be available in the KenningtonsAveley district of Thurrock when it is declared a smokeless zone next October.
The Regional Advisory Committee on Smokeless Fuels has advised my right hon. Friend that adequate supplies will be available; the local authority has been informed.
Pit Closures, Scotland
asked the Minister of Power what information he has received from the National Coal Board regarding the number of coal mines or pits closed in Scotland and Lanarkshire, respectively, in the last 10 years, and the number of workers involved, and regarding the number which will be closed in the next 10 years and the number of workers who will be affected.
The Board has closed 97 pits in Scotland—including 29 in Lanarkshire—since 1st January, 1951. These closures affected 18,300 and 4,500 men respectively. Closures in the next ten years will depend on the circumstances of individual pits and the demand for coal.
Ministry Of Power
Methane
3.
asked the Minster of Power, in view of the fact that arrangements have been made to transport natural gas to all the main French industrial areas by underground pipeline, why it is not intended to carry the natural gas, which is to be obtained from the Sahara, to this country by pipeline; and whether he will make a statement.
At this stage of development it is considered more practicable and economic to ship the gas by tanker.
Electricity
Nuclear Power Stations (Accident Insurance)
asked the Minister of Power what financial protection is afforded by his Department to third parties and employees, respectively, on account of damage and injuries resulting from nuclear accidents in power stations; how much compensation has been paid to date; and how many claims are being considered.
The construction and operation of nuclear power stations by the Central Electricity Generating Board are subject to licence under the Nuclear Installations (Licensing and Insurance) Act, 1959. The Act imposes on the Board an absolute liability for damage or injury caused by ionising radiations and requires sufficient funds to be made available to meet established claims up to an aggregate amount of £5 million in respect of each station. Under arrangements approved by me, with the consent of the Treasury, the Board is taking out insurance policies to cover this liability at each station from the time when fuel is loaded into a reactor. These policies cover damage or injury to any person, whether he is an employee or not, and whether he or the property damaged is on the licensed site or elsewhere. No compensation has been paid to date, and no claims are at present under consideration.
Ministry Of Health
European Blood Bank
44.
asked the Minister of Health what plans Her Majesty's Government have for co-operating with the European Blood Bank.
We are always ready to help in major emergency.
Poliomyelitis (Oral Vaccine)
49.
asked the Minister of Health whether he can now state when he intends to make a general release of oral poliomyelitis vaccine to local health authorities; and if he will make a statement.
This will be as soon as the necessary arrangements can be made.
Medical Laboratory Technicians (Salaries)
52.
asked the Minister of Health why there is a large pay differential between medical laboratory technicians in the Civil Service and those employed in the National Health Service; how long negotiations have been going on through the National Whitley Council for comparity; and why there has been a delay in coming to a decision.
The appropriate Whitley Council reached agreement on 22nd November on new salaries reflecting agreed comparisons with the scientific Civil Service. There has been no undue delay. The date of implementation is still to be fixed.
Invalid Vehicle (Mr Banks)
55.
asked the Minister of Health when Mr. Banks of 11, Lime Grove, Birdwood, Lichfield, will receive his officially issued invalid vehicle, an application for which has been supported by his medical adviser and about which the full facts are known by the Lichfield Employment Exchange.
The provision of a vehicle may be considered only on the recommendation of a hospital consultant. I understand that Mr. Bank's family doctor is arranging for him to he seen by a consultant in the near future.
Property, Sunderland (Use)
58.
asked the Minister of Health whether he will give an assurance that the property "Moorhill", recently acquired by the Sunderland Council, will be used for female patients only.
I understand this is the intention, but my right hon. Friend has no power to give or seek an assurance.
Hearing Aid Technicians
59.
asked the Minister of Health how many hearing aid technicians were employed in the National Health Service on 31st October, 1951. and 31st October, 1961, respectively; and what were the minimum and maximum salary scales fixed for these technicians when their salaries were last reviewed.
I have figures only for 31st December. For England and Wales these were 123 whole-time equivalents in 1951 and 221 in 1960. The salary scale operative since 1st September, 1960, rises from £270 at age 18 to £590 maximum, with responsibility allowances in certain cases.
Regional Appeals Committees
64.
asked the Minister of Health what factors are taken into account by a regional appeals committee when deciding the grading of a post and to what extent such a decision is made on the basis of duties to be performed, and on the ability of each incumbent to perform those duties, respectively.
Grading is based on the duties actually performed and is normally decided by reference to definitions laid down by the Whitley Councils. Ability is not an issue for the Committee.
Welfare Foods
66.
asked the Minister of Health what quantities of welfare foods were dispensed in England and Wales during the period 27th August to 28th October in 1960 and in 1961, respectively.
I regret that this information is not available.
69.
asked the Minister of Health how much cod liver oil and orange juice was distributed by the health department in Thurrock during the 12 weeks starting 4th July, 1960, and during the 12 weeks starting 3rd July, 1961, respectively.
70.
asked the Minister of Health what were the quantities of cod liver oil and orange juice distributed by the health department in St. Helens, Lancashire, for the 12 weeks starting 4th July, 1960, and a similar period starting 3rd July, 1961; and what was the percentage decrease in each welfare food.
| — | Bottles | Percentage decrease | ||
| 12 weeks from 4th July, 1960 | 12 weeks from 3rd July, 1961 | |||
| South Essex Health Area which includes Thurrock. | Cod liver oil | 3,592 | 1,080 | — |
| Orange juice | 42,853 | 15,194 | — | |
| St. Helens, Lancashire | Cod liver oil | 1,397 | 459 | 67·14 |
| Orange juice | 12,912 | 3,496 | 72·92 | |
| Bilston Borough | Cod liver oil | 310 | 92 | 70·32 |
| Orange juice | 3,783 | 905 | 76·08 | |
| Coseley Urban District Council | Cod liver oil | 359 | 114 | 68·25 |
| Orange juice | 3,504 | 1,044 | 70·21 | |
| Burnley | Cod liver oil | 1,099 | 289 | 73·70 |
| Orange juice | 9,040 | 2,649 | 70·70 | |
| Sedgley Urban District Council | Cod liver oil | 341 | 84 | 75·37 |
| Orange juice | 2,401 | 644 | 73·18 | |
Dental Estimates Board (Mr P E Grundy)
75.
asked the Minister of Health what was the purpose of the investigations made into the practice of Mr. P. E. Grundy, a dental surgeon of Leyland, by the Dental Estimates Board.
I understand that these investigations are being made by the police.
Perinatal Mortality, Wales
asked the Minister of Health whether the field examination on perinatal mortality in Wales, being conducted by medical officers of the Welsh Board of Health, has yet been com-
71.
asked the Minister of Health what amounts of orange juice and cod liver oil were distributed by the health department in the Borough of Bilston and the urban district councils of Coseley and Sedgley for the 12 weeks starting 4th July, 1960, and a similar period starting 3rd July, 1961; and what was the percentage decrease in each welfare food.
74.
asked the Minister of Health what amounts of cod liver oil and orange juice were distributed in Burnley for the 12 months starting 4th July, 1960, and a similar period starting 3rd July, 1961; and what was the percentage decrease in each welfare food.
Following are the figures:completed; and when the report will be published.
The survey has not yet been completed.
Hospitals
Council Of Europe Convention (Special Medical Equipment)
45.
asked the Minister of Health what borrowings have been made by British hospital authorities of special medical equipment under the Council of Europe Convention of 29th April, 1960; and what British equipment has been loaned to fellow signatories of the convention.
None.
Chepstow Plastic Surgery Hospital
47.
asked the Minister of Health if he will give the number of patients in the Chepstow Plastic Surgery Hospital at the nearest convenient date, and the number of these who live in Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire, Glamorganshire, Cardiganshire and Breconshire, respectively.
156, 3, 6, 54, 1 and 3.
48.
asked the Minister of Health if he will give the number of people awaiting admission to the Chepstow Plastic Surgery Hospital, and the number who have been waiting six months or longer.
316 and 190.
Hospital Maternity Services, Manchester
53.
asked the Minister of Health whether he is satisfied with the staffing position in Manchester's hospital maternity services; and if he will make a statement.
There is some deficiency of midwives. Hospital authorities will be reporting shortly on action taken on recommendations made earlier this year with a view to improving the position.
Manchester Royal Eye Hospital
54.
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that there is a shortage of nursing staff at the Manchester Royal Eye Hospital; and what curtailment of the hospital's services has occurred in consequence.
Yes. 35 beds have been unoccupied, but 10 of these were recently brought back into use.
Hospital Medical Staffing
63.
asked the Minister of Health, if he is now able to give details of the machinery he is establishing to conduct the review of hospital medical staffing.
I cannot yet add to the reply I gave on 13th November. I will send the hon. Member details as soon as they have been settled with the profession.
Employment
Payment Of Wages Act, 1960
77.
asked the Minister of Labour when he proposes to appoint a day from which the payment of wages by cheque shall be lawful in accordance with section 1 (3, d) of the Payment of Wages Act, 1960.
The provisions covering payment into a bank account or by postal order or money order will have been in effect for one year on 1st December. I propose shortly to consult with interested organisations about the working of these provisions. I shall then consider the question of bringing into force those provisions relating to the payment of wages by cheque.
Gateshead
81.
asked the Minister of Labour what consideration he is giving to the continuing problem of unemployment among unskilled workers in the Gateshead and district employment area.
As the hon. Gentleman knows, I am well aware of this problem. My local officers will continue to do all they can to find these workers suitable employment.
Disabled Persons, Remploy (Wages)
83.
asked the Minister of Labour if he has noted that the average basic weekly wage of disabled persons employed by Remploy Ltd. was only £7 13s. 6d. in 1960–61; and whether he will increase the cash advances to Remploy Ltd. so that better wages can be paid.
The wages paid by Remploy are negotiated in the normal way between the company and the trade unions. The basic rates were increased as from 5th April last by 2d. an hour for men and Id. for women. The Government's annual grant towards the company's running expenses will increase from £2,750,000 in the current financial year to £2,950,000 in 1965–66.
School Leavers
asked the Minister of Labour what were the numbers and percentages of school leavers between 1st July, 1961, and 31st October, 1961, who entered employment in each of the following categories, namely, apprenticeships to skilled occupations, employment leading to professional qualifications, clerical employment, employment with
| — | Boys | Girls | |||
| Number | Percentage | Number | Percentage | ||
| 1. | Apprenticeship to skilled occupations | 64,245 | 41·1 | 10,349 | 7·2 |
| 2. | Employment leading to professional qualifications | 3,175 | 2·0 | 2,409 | 1·7 |
| 3. | Clerical employment | 18,187 | 11 ·7 | 62,175 | 43·1 |
| 4. | Employment with training not covered in (1) to (3) above | 20,060 | 12·9 | 13,336 | 9·2 |
| 5. | Other employment | 50,499 | 32·3 | 56,112 | 38·8 |
| 156,166 | 144,381 | ||||
Nuclear Tests
84.
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will now make a statement on the steps which he has taken to date to secure, and the success he has achieved in securing international agreement on the making, testing and using of atomic, hydrogen and thermonuclear bombs.
Her Majesty's Government have, with the United States and Soviet Governments, been negotiating since 1958 for a Treaty banning nuclear weapon tests under effective international control. These negotiations are being resumed on 28th November. Her Majesty's Government have also been taking part for some years in negotiations for controlled multilateral disarmament. No agreements have yet been concluded but Her Majesty's Government stand ready to continue such discussions.
91.
asked the Lord Privy Seal what reply Her Majesty's Government have given to the Soviet Note concerning a resumption of negotiations for a ban on nuclear test explosions.
The Soviet Government's Note was itself a reply to our own Note of 13th November. The Soviet Govern- training not covered by the first and third categories, and other employment.
The provisional figures for these four months are as follows:ment have been informed through diplomatic channels that we agree to the resumption of negotiations at Geneva on 28th November.
European Economic Community
85.
asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the number of advisers attending him at the negotiations on the Common Market; what are their respective specialities; how they are accommodated; and for how long he plans to keep them abroad.
The delegation, which is led at the official level by Sir Pierson Dixon, Her Majesty's Ambassador in Paris, includes six senior advisers from the Treasury, the Foreign Office, the Commonwealth Relations Office, the Colonial Office, the Board of Trade and the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. They and with one exception the other members of the delegation are accommodated in hotels. The length of their stay in Brussels will depend upon the course of the negotiations.
Disarmament (Commonwealth Prime Ministers' Statement)
90.
asked the Lord Privy Seal what steps he is taking to present the disarmament proposals, agreed by the Commonwealth Prime Ministers, at the current session of the United Nations.
The Commonwealth Prime Ministers' statement on disarmament was circulated to all United Nations delegations on 14th September at the joint request of all the Commonwealth Governments.
Uganda (Refugees)
92.
asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the present position in regard to the request made by the Uganda Government for aid from United Nations agencies in respect of the 20,000 Batutsi refugees now at Oruchinga and other camps.
Informal approaches have been made by the Uganda authorities to the United Nations Children's Fund (U.N.I.C.E.F.). In addition a representative of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees was due to arrive in Uganda this weekend to report on the situation there.
Laos
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on the situation in Laos.
The meeting between the three Princes, representing the main factions in Laos, to discuss the composition of a coalition Government has not yet taken place. Practical arrangements concerning the number of troops to accompany each Prince and the possible creation of a neutralised zone in the Conference area at Vientiane are under discussion and the meeting is expected to take place shortly.As regards the cease-fire and the progress of the Conference at Geneva, I have nothing to add to my Written Answer to the hon. Gentleman the Member for Eton and Slough (Mr. Brockway) on 22nd November.
Congo (Katanga)
asked the Lord Privy Seal what recent information he has received through the United Nations concerning the presence of foreign mercenary soldiers in the Congolese Province of Katanga.
Estimates of the number of mercenaries still remaining in Katanga vary considerably. Members of the United Nations Secretariat have informally mentioned a figure as high as 250. Information available to Her Majesty's Consul in Elisabethville, however. indicates that the mercenaries do not total more than 70.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
White Fish Authority (Interest Rates)
93.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that the White Fish Authority has changed its rate of interest on advance trade as from 14th October, 1961; and if he will make a detailed statement indicating the reason for this change and the manner in which it will operate.
The Authority varies interest rates from time to time in relation to changes made in the Government credit rate. The rates on advances made before the dates of such changes remain unaltered.
Fowl Pest (Compensation Cases)
94.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will seek to amend the Diseases of Animals (Ascertainment of Compensation) Order, 1959, in such a way as to ensure that the Press shall at all times be admitted to tribunals sitting in connection with fowl pest compensation cases.
Proceedings under this Order are like any other proceedings under the Arbitration Act. The admission of the Press and the public to these hearings is at the discretion of the arbitrator. The accepted practice is that the public may be excluded if their presence is objected to by either party or the arbitrator. I can see no reason why the procedure for hearing cases concerned with fowl pest compensation should diverge from the accepted practice.
Local Government
Gypsies
95.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs, in view of the worsening situation for gypsies and other travellers, in what way his Department will co-operate with the local authorities in an effort to provide suitable camping sites where the children can be assured of the statutory educational services.
The Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act, 1960, empowers local authorities to provide sites for this purpose, where the need arises. We are ready to give any further help we can, if it should be needed. It is to be expected that there will be consultation between the local authority providing the site and the education authority.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs in what way the Caravan Sites Act, 1960, has improved the situation for gypsies and other travellers; and what are the future prospects in this respect.
Various provisions of the Act may be of assistance to gypsies. I would mention in particular the exemptions from licensing for Caravan Sites used by seasonal workers in Agriculture or forestry, the provision requiring all licensed sites to be registered, and the power given to local authorities, including county councils, to provide caravan sites to meet the needs of their areas.
Litter Act
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many prosecutions of individuals and how many of corporate bodies, respectively, have been instituted since the passing of the Litter Act; and whether he is satisfied with the operation of the Act.
The statistics of prosecutions under the Act kept by my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary show that up to the end of 1960 there had been 5,317 prosecutions in England and Wales. The records kept make no distinction between individuals and corporate bodies. My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the Act is making a useful contribution to the anti-litter campaign.
Scotland
Poor Persons (Legal Representation)
96.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is aware of the difficulties arising under existing arrangements in Scottish courts in providing defence in cases of persons without means; whether he has completed his consideration of the Guthrie Committee's Report and his consultations with the Law Society of Scotland; and what steps he now proposes to take to ensure legal representation in all courts.
I am not yet in a position to add to the reply that my hon. Friend the Joint Under-Secretary of State gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Glasgow, Craigton (Mr. Millan) on 15th November.
Transport
Public Transport (Transistor Radios)
97.
asked the Minister of Transport whether he will introduce legislation to stop the playing of transistor radios in all buses, trains and coaches.
No, sir. British Railways' byelaws and my regulations for the conduct of passengers on buses and coaches already forbid the use of radios when they annoy other persons. A complete ban would be unfair, for there may be times when all passengers in a compartment or coach would like to listen to a radio.
Roads
A38 Road, Shenstone
asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the dangerous conditions on the A.38 trunk road between Shenstone and Shenstone Wood End, where accidents have occurred involving loss of life and severe damage to property; and what action he proposes to take in this matter.
I am making inquiries and will write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Post Office
British Honduras (Air Mail Parcels)
98.
asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that some individuals and voluntary groups who have collected parcels of clothing and food for relatives and friends in British Honduras, following the hurricane, find the air mail rates prohibitive; and whether, as a temporary measure to help relieve this distress, he will reduce the rates substantially for such parcels.
While my right hon. Friend has the greatest sympathy with the people of British Honduras in their present plight, he is sorry that he cannot do as the hon. Member asks without being prepared to make similar concessions over a much wider field.
Education
Commonwealth Education Conference, New Delhi
asked the Minister of Education (I) whether he will make a statement about the agenda of the forthcoming Commonwealth Education Conference at Delhi;(2) if he will now announce the composition of the British delegation to the forthcoming Commonwealth Education Conference in Delhi.
The delegation will be led by myself and I shall be accompanied by my right hon. Friend the Secretary for Technical Co-operation. The other delegates from the United Kingdom, besides officials from the Government Departments concerned and the British Council, will be:
The Prime Minister of India, Mr. Jawaharlal Nehru, will open the conference in Vigyan Bhawan, New Delhi, on Thursday morning, 11 th January, and Dr. K. L. Shrimali, Minister of Education, will be its Chairman. About 200 delegates from thirteen Commonwealth countries and from Colonial Territories are expected to attend. The conference will end on 25th January, but delegates are being invited to remain in New Delhi for Republic Day ceremonies on the following day.
Trainee Teachers (Grants)
asked the Minister of Education what grants are at present being paid to trainee teachers; what improvement is contemplated in the immediate future; and whether he will make a statement.
The present grants for teachers in training are set out in my Department's Circulars 5/61 and 7/61, of which I am sending copies to the hon. Member. On future improvements, as I explained to the House on 13th November, the Standing Advisory Committee on Grants to Students has been asked to review the maintenance rates and I hope to be able to consider its recommendations early in the New Year.
National Finance
Whisky
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the quantities of malt whisky and grain whisky, respectively, distilled in Scotland during the year to 30th September, 1961; and what were the quantities of both distilled in the whole of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
The quantities of malt spirit and of grain spirit distilled in Scotland and in the United Kingdom as a whole in the year ended 30th September, 1961, were as follows:
| — | Proof Gallons | |
| United Kingdom | Scotland | |
| Production by distilleries using malt only (malt spirit) | 26,497,655 | 26,439,994 |
| Production by distilleries using malt and other material (grain spirit) | 49,364,588 | 46,301,376 |
Electronic Computers, Government Departments
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many electronic computers are at present in use by Government Departments; what is their distribution between Government Departments; and what plans Her Majesty's Government have made for increasing their use of such computers.
Twenty-one electronic computers are at present in use for clerical purposes by Government Departments and six more are on order. They vary considerably in size and their distribution is shown below. More computer systems are at various stages of planning.
| ELECTRONIC COMPUTERS FOR CLERICAL WORK | ||
| Department | Number in use | Number on order |
| Admiralty | 6 | 1 |
| Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | 3 | — |
| Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland | 1 | — |
| Air Ministry | 1 | 1 |
| Ministry of Aviation | 1 | — |
| Board of Inland Revenue | 1 | — |
| Ministry of Labour | 1 | — |
| Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance | 1 | 1 |
| Post Office | 3 | — |
| H.M. Stationery Office | 1 | — |
| Board of Trade | 1 | — |
| War Office | 1 | 2 |
| Ministry of Works | — | 1 |
| Total | 21 | 6 |
University Teachers (Pay Claim)
asked the Secretary to the Treasury why a claim for salary increases made by the Association of University Teachers in October, 1960, has been brought within the pay pause policy of July, 1961.
The present salary scales for university teachers were effective from 1st January, 1960. At the time the Memorandum was received from the University Grants Committee setting out the case for a further increase, the need for the measures which the Government announced towards the end of July was already clear and no prior commitment in respect of an increase had been entered into. It is therefore at present under consideration, but implementation of any decision on it is subject to the general pause on wage and salary increases which forms an essential part of the policy to which I have referred.
Home Department
Metropolitan Police Force
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons born in Southern Ireland are at present serving in the Metropolitan Police Force.
One hundred and thirty-four.
British Army
Strength
asked the Secetary of State for War what estimates he has formed, based on present recruiting trends, of the size of the regular element in the Army at 1st April, 1962.
The strengths published in the Report on Defence, 1961 (Comd. 1288) remain a reliable estimate of the Regular strength of the Army on 1st April, 1962.
Pensions And National Insurance
Bronchitis
asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance how many working days were lost in 1960 on account of absence due to bronchitis in the United Kingdom as a whole and in the County Borough of Derby in particular.
The latest available figures showing the causes of incapacity for work recorded for sickness benefit are for the year to 30th May, 1959. A sample analysis suggests that approximately 31 million days of such recorded absence from work in Great Britain during this period were due to bronchitis. I am afraid that separate figures are not available for the United Kingdom or for Derby. I would add that when the results of the inquiry now being undertaken into the incidence of incapacity for work are available, information about sickness from bronchitis in the current period will be given separately in respect of all towns with a population exceeding 100,000 as well as for Great Britain as a whole.