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Volume 655: debated on Wednesday 14 March 1962

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 14th March, 1962

Royal Navy

Admiralty Charts

6.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty how many of the new Admiralty charts for yachtsmen have been issued; how many copies have so far been sold; and what plans exist for extending the coverage of the series.

So far charts of seven areas extending from Yarmouth to the Medway have been issued. By the summer we expect to add thirteen more charts, extending the cover to include the whole of the Solent area. Later on we hope to add further to the series. These charts retailed at 3s. 6d. have proved to be very popular with yachtsmen and in the two months in which they have been available, 2,300 copies have been sold.

Royal Marine Sick Quarters, Deal

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will publish a table showing, in respect of each month from the end of August, 1961, to the latest date for which figures are available, the number of beds available, the average bed occupancy per month and the cost per month of each occupied bed, at the Royal Marine sick quarters, Deal.

The figures for beds and bed occupancy are given in the table below:

Number of BedsAverage Occupancy
1961
September2211
October225
November229
December225
1962
January4414
February4424
NOTE: The Sick Quarters did not become fully operative until the end of January, 1962, when the operating theatre and surgical block came into use for the first time.Figures of the cost per month for each occupied bed are not readily available. The number of staffed beds can be reduced or increased as experience may show this to be necessary. There is not as yet sufficient experience of the new arrangements to determine their adequacy or otherwise.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty how many Service patients received dental treatment in the Royal Marine sick quarters. Deal, during each week from the end of August, 1961, to the latest date for which figures are available.

During the period week ending 2nd September, 1961, to 10th March, 1962, 759 Service patients attended for mouth examination and charting, an average of 27 per week. The dental department was closed for two weeks during the leave period in December. From the week ending 13th January, 1962, only two dental officers were borne, one less than the approved complement.

Ships (Scrapping)

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will name the ships to be scrapped as set out in Appendix II of Command paper No. 1629.

The names of the ships approved during 1961–62 for scrapping are:—

Destroyers—H.M. Ships "Alamein", "Childers", "Cockade" and "Comet".
Frigates—H.M. Ships "St. Brides Bay", "Cardigan Bay", "Pheasant Starling", "Paladin", "Teazer", "Loch Craggie" and "Brecon".
Netlayer—H.M.S. "Guardian".
Submarines—H.M. Submarines "Tudor", "Tactician", "Trespasser", "Trenchant", "Thule", "Scorcher", "Sentinel". "Solent", "Minnow" and "Sprat".
Destroyer Depot Ship—H.M.S. "Woolwich".
Ocean Minesweepers—H.M. Ships "Bramble", "Lennox", "Rinaldo", "Hound", "Orestes", "Pincher", "Plucky", "Wave" and "Welcome".

Donibristle Site, Fife

9.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will make a further statement on the future of the Donibristle site in Fife; and whether there is any immediate prospect of sale to an industrial developer.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to him last week by my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.I am unable to add at this stage to the information given him then, except to say that there is no immediate prospect of a sale to an industrial developer.

Royal Air Force

Fylingdales Early Warning Station (Bridleway)

12.

asked the Secretary of State for Air why there has been so long a delay in agreeing an alternative route for that part of the bridleway known as Robin Hood's Bay Road which has to be diverted in connection with the establishment of the early warning station on Fylingdales Moor; and if he will now agree to the alternative route suggested by the North York Moors National Park Planning Committee.

We had first to determine how much land had to be fenced off to provide a safety area and then to consult the North Riding County Council and other interested parties. The line of the alternative route has now been agreed.

Scotland

Forth Road Bridge

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the number of representations he has received regarding toll charges on the Forth Road Bridge; and if he will publish the names of the organisations or authorities concerned.

In the past 12 months I have received 13 representations. Most are from Fife, seven being from town councils in the county in support of a resolution by the county council urging that no tolls should be charged; in addition two town councils, a body calling itself the National Forth Road Bridge Committee, and two private individuals have made similar representations.

Occupational Therapy (Staff)

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware of the considerable number of unfilled vacancies among occupational therapy staff; and what steps he intends to take to ensure that these vacancies are filled and that further wastage is considerably reduced

An additional training school is to be opened in Glasgow in September of this year. Much of the wastage of trained people results from marriage; and we are trying to encourage more married women to return to this work, part-time if necessary.

Tobacco Sales (Children)

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many prosecutions there have been in Scotland in the last ten years for selling tobacco to children under the age of 16 years, whether for their own or for another's consumption.

I regret that I do not have this information and that it could be obtained only by extensive local researches.

Hospital Staff

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will give the number of physiotherapists employed in the hospitals in the area of each of the regional hospital boards in Scotland and the number of unfilled vacancies for physiotherapists in each area;(2) if he will give the number of almoners employed in the hospitals in the area of each of the regional hospital boards in Scotland, and the number of unfilled vacancies for almoners in each area;(3) if he will give the number of radiographers employed in the hospitals in the area of each of the regional hospital boards in Scotland, and the number of unfilled vacancies for radiographers in each area;(4) if he will give the number of occupational therapists employed in the hospitals in the area of each of the regional hospital boards in Scotland, and the number of unfilled vacancies for occupational therapists in each area.(5) if he will give the number of qualified dieticians employed in the hospitals in the area of each of the regional hospital boards in Scotland, and the number of unfilled vacancies for qualified dieticians in each area.

REGIONAL HOSPITAL BOARDS
NorthNorth-EasternEastern
In PostUnfilled VacanciesIn PostUnfilled VacanciesIn PostUnfilled Vacancies
Physiotherapists21237113927
Almoners2110475
Radiographers173464112
Occupational Therapists4155344
Dieticians2273
South-EasternWesternScotland
In PostUnfilled VacanciesIn PostUnfilled VacanciesIn PostUnfilled Vacancies
Physiotherapists129143053553189
Almoners326571410830
Radiographers11572552647448
Occupational Therapists506631416629
Dieticians14330135321
NOTE: Unfilled vacancies are vacancies which have been advertised and not yet filled and posts now vacant which are about to be advertised.

Remand Homes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to know the views of the local authorities whom he is consulting on the proposals concerning remand homes of the Special Committee of the Scottish Advisory Council on child care.

The local authority associations hope to let me have their views by the end of April.

Trunk Roads

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many miles of trunk roads are subject to speed limits of 30 miles per hour and 40 miles per hour, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of level crossings on trunk roads.

Roads

St James's Square And Pall Mall (Pedestrian Crossing)

36.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will arrange for a pedestrian crossing at the intersections of St. James's Square and Pall Mall.

Yes. An extra pedestrian crossing is to be installed soon at the junction of Pall Mall with the western arm of St. James's Square, roughly halfway between the Regent Street and Marlborough Gate crossings. There will then be three pedestrian crossings not more than 200 yards apart in this length.

Woodhurst Park Road, Oxted

39.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will give an assurance that he will make no order with regard to the closure to vehicular traffic of the junction of Woodhurst Park Road with the Maidstone-Guildford Road (A.25) at Oxted without allowing the local residents to express their opinion at a public inquiry.

We will bear my right hon. Friend's suggestion in mind if we are asked again to close the junction to traffic. But in the meantime we have suggested alternative measures to the county council.

Bath Road

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now reached a decision on the proposal made by the Tilehurst Parish Council and the Berkshire County Council last August, that in the interests of road safety a double white line should be painted on the Bath Road (A.4) between the Reading borough boundary and Theale.

This is one of the three-lane roads I am considering for trials in the use of off-set double white line markings, giving two lanes for traffic in one direction and one lane in the other direction. I will write to my hon. Friend as soon as we have decided whether this particular road should be included in the trials.

Trunk Roads (Speed Limit)

asked the Minister of Transport how many miles of trunk roads are subject to speed limits of 30 miles an hour, and 40 miles an hour, respectively.

In England and Wales there are 1,169 miles of trunk road restricted to 30 miles per hour and 153 miles restricted to 40 miles per hour.

Transport

Road Safety Campaign

37.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he can give details of National Road Safety Campaigns arranged by his Department, in co-operation with other organisations, for 1962.

My Ministry and the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, in co-operation, are making arrangements for a major campaign in 1962 designed to emphasise the importance of training for road users.

Public Car Parks (Rating)

asked the Minister of Transport what discussions he has had with the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs about the rating of public car parks.

Shipping

Ship-Repairing Industry, Cardiff

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that the number of workers in the ship-repairing industry in Cardiff declined by 30 per cent. in the three years from 1958 to 1960 inclusive; if he will state the number of insured employees in this industry at the most recent convenient date; and what steps he proposes to take to arrest the continuing decline in this industry.

The number of insured persons in ship-repairing in the Cardiff area fell by 30 per cent. from May, 1958 to May, 1960, from 3,670 to 2,550. The number of unemployed included in these figures fell in the same period by over 20 per cent. from 658 to 510. Later figures of insured persons are not yet available. Employment in ship-repairing in the United Kingdom declined from 1957 to 1959 but has partly recovered now. How much ship-repair work Cardiff can secure depends upon the volume of shipping in the area and the competitive ability of the yards there.

Science

Meat Research Centre

42.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science, whether he is aware of the need to establish a meat research centre in Scotland, in order to investigate the development of quality beef; and what action he is taking in this respect.

It is proposed to set up a single meat research centre for the whole of the United Kingdom. This will eventually be concerned with all types of meat. In selecting the site for it, the Agricultural Research Council will take all relevant considerations into account. The choice will probably be made soon.

Salt Water Conversion

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science if he will give the most recent results of the research being conducted in this country on salt water conversion; and if he will make a statement.

Research on salt water conversion is mainly undertaken by industrial firms, which are not bound to publish their results. The Tropical Products Institute of the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research is doing a small amount of work on solar distillation, which may find applications in warmer countries. All our information suggests that demineralisation of salt water is unlikely, in normal circumstances, to be economic in this country.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Wool (Canary Stain)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will request the Agricultural Research Council to set up a committee to examine the causes of canary stain in wool.

The discolouration of the fleece known as canary stain was considered, along with other problems of wool production, by the Joint Committee of the Agricultural Research and Improvement Councils early in 1959. The Committee consulted the bodies concerned with sheep breeding and disease in drawing up a comprehensive list of topics needing investigation which was forwarded to the Agricultural Research Council. The Ministry's veterinary staff have since co-operated with the National Agricultural Advisory Service in a study of the downgrading of wool from this cause in the county of Devon. Their report, which is expected shortly, may indicate the lines of further investigation. I am asking the Council to let me know what steps they have in mind for dealing with this difficult problem.

Ministry Of Aviation

Aviation Kerosene And Jp4 (Report)

asked the Minister of Aviation what conclusions were reached as a result of the study which he has had made into the relative safety of aviation kerosene and J.P.4 wide-cut gasoline for air transport services; and what action he intends to take on them.

The Report of the Working Party that was set up to make these studies is being published today and copies are available in the Vote Office.The Working Party concluded that statistical evidence based on accident analysis does not show conclusively that either fuel was significantly safer than the other, partly because the number of relevant accidents is small and partly because, among this number, circumstances varied so much that accurate comparisons were seldom practicable. However, when it examined the physical properties of the two fuels, the Working Party concluded that aviation kerosene is, on balance, safer than J.P.4, mainly because the likelihood of ignition and the rate of flame spread are less. The use of kerosene should, therefore, give occupants of a crashed aircraft, who have survived an impact, a better chance of escaping before any subsequent fire made escape or rescue impossible. A high proportion of accidents occur in the landing and take-off phases when the degree of fire risk may largely determine the chance of survival.It is, of course, necessary to preserve a sense of proportion in this matter. In the past about 90 per cent. of air transport fatalities have been caused by impact injuries so that any margin for improvement would only have been within the remaining 10 per cent. or so. The risk inherent in using J.P.4 is comparable with that of using petrol, which has always been used in piston engined aircraft, and will continue to be so.Nevertheless, I accept the conclusion of the Report that on balance kerosene should offer a better chance of survival than J.P.4. I am glad to be able to say that all British operators of turbine-engined aircraft use kerosene except on a few occasions where they are operating through aerodromes overseas where only J.P.4 is available. I am proposing that the conclusions of the Report should be brought to the notice of the International Civil Aviation Organisation.

Education

Day Releases

asked the Minister of Education if he will publish the latest figures of percentages of young employees granted day release by industry for England and Wales and for Scotland, and the comparable figures for the last three years.

The table below gives the number of students aged under 18 at the end of May in the last four years released by their employers to attend

STUDENTS AGED UNDER 18 YEARS RELEASED FROM INDUSTRY EDUCATIONAL YEARS 1957–58 TO 1960–61
1957–581958–591959–601960–61
England and Wales
Estimated numbers insured at end of May1,163,0001,213,0001,311,0001,324,000
Numbers released by their employers during the year171,506174,679176,102193,929
Percentage14·814·413·414·6
Scotland
Estimated numbers insured at end of May163,000162,000168,000163,000
Numbers released by their employers during the year15,00214,27113,70414,745
Percentage9·28·88·29·0

School Windows (Blinds)

asked the Minister of Education how many schools there are with excessive glass requiring blinds for the protection of the children's eyes; and how many schools have yet to fit such blinds.

1 do not have detailed information about the fitting of blinds. My hon. Friend has no doubt seen the Eighth Report of the Estimates Committee for the Session 1960–61 and my observations upon it. School windows should be large enough to admit adequate daylight in the winter, with blinds or curtains where these are necessary to reduce glare in the summer.

National Finance

Newspapers And Periodicals

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total cost falling on public funds for the supply of newspapers and periodicals; and what is the total annual number of such publications so supplied.

The cost borne on H.M.S.O. Vote was £445,520 for 1960–61: in addition a few Departments bear their own costs—details are not readily available. 44,000 periodical subscriptions were ordered together with

day courses in grant aided establishments for further education, and shows what percentage they are of all employees in the same age group. The figures are given separately for England and Wales, and Scotland. The figures for Scotland have been supplied by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland.

separate issues of newspapers and periodicals, a record of which is not maintained centrally.

University Salaries And Recurrent Grants

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement about university salaries and recurrent grants for the next five university years.

The University Grants Committee have made their recommendations to the Government for the recurrent grants for the five-year period covering the university years 1962–63 to 1966–67, and for substantial increases in the salaries of university teaching staffs.The Government have considered these recommendations with the determination to bring about the most rapid possible development of higher education that is consistent both with the other claims upon the nation's prospective economic resources in the next five years and with the Government's policy for incomes set out in the recent White Paper. These considerations of national economic policy, which are of course right outside the scope of the Committee's responsibility, have made it necessary to depart from the Committee's recommendations. This in no way alters the Government's confidence in the Committee's judgment in the whole field of university matters on which they are responsible for giving advice.I have accordingly informed the Committee that, subject to annual approval of the Estimates by Parliament in the normal way, they should plan on the basis of the following recurrent grants for the five university years beginning on 1st August next:

University Year£ million
1962–6356
1963–6460½
1964–6565½
1965–6670½
1966–6776½
Total329
The grant for the current university year is £49½ million, so we are contemplating a grant five years hence which will be nearly 55 per cent. higher. The figures exclude provision for rates, which will be financed by special grants outside the quinquennial settlement. The cost for the universities of the Government's recent request for an increase in the intake of medical students has yet to be finally settled, and will also be additional to the figures I have given.In addition, despite economic difficulties I can reaffirm the undertakings given by my right hon. Friend a year ago on the rapidly increasing provision for non-recurrent grants. The awards to university students from public funds, central and local, are also growing in total all the time. In sum, the aggregate cost of the universities to public funds has increased from £50 million to £104 million in the last five years, and may increase by a further £50 million or more in the course of the next five years.

University Numbers. The universities' estimates, including those of the seven new universities authorised during the present quinquennium, have indicated that they will be prepared, given adequate financial support, to work to an expansion of the total student population from the present level of about 111,000 in 1961–62 to about 150,000 in 1966–67, the peak year for the universities of the post-war "bulge" in the birth-rate. I have asked the Committee to inform the universities that, although it has not been possible in present

economic circumstances to accept in full the Committee's financial recommendations, it is the Government's wish that the additional funds should be applied as far as possible to achieving the figure of 150,000. This would bring about an increase in numbers of 35 per cent. in five years, and if achieved would ensure university places for as great a proportion of the larger age-groups from which university students will then be selected as are available for the corresponding smaller age-groups now. The Government's aim is to continue the expansion beyond 150,000 to about 170,000 places by 1973–74.

Salaries. The recurrent grant figures above are based upon the present rates of academic salaries, which came into effect in January, 1960. Strong arguments have been advanced by the University Grants Committee for a substantial increase in these salaries. The Government have taken these carefully into account, along with the need to expand the teaching staff in relation to the increase in student numbers. But in line with the policy for the next stage set out in the White Paper on Incomes Policy, they do not feel able to authorise an increase of more than 3 per cent. in the bill for academic salaries. Scales based on an aggregate increase of this order will be authorised from 1st April, 1962, and will cost approximately £1 million extra in the first full year. These scales will be reviewed afresh next year.

Provision for university expansion is only part of the resources which the Government are devoting, on an increasing scale, to higher education. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Education announced the week before last the further development of the Colleges of Advanced Technology. In the light of the report of the Committee on Higher Education under Lord Robbins' chairmanship, all these programmes may require to be re-examined in two or three years' time.

Expenditure in 1962–63. The Government's proposals for the first year of the new quinquennium and for the increase in salaries will necessitate a Supplementary Estimate of some £4½ million for 1962–63, which will be laid before the House in due course.

Ministry Of Health

Wigs

asked the Minister of Health if he will state the amount spent, under the National Health Service, on the provision of wigs, postiches, and toupees, for men and women, during the years 1959, 1960 and 1961.

Partial information suggests that the annual expenditure lies somewhere between about £100,000 and £200,000 a year.

Technical Co-Operation

Pensioners

asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation what is the average pension paid through the Crown Agents, territory by territory, to the widows of pensioners of Her Majesty's Overseas Civil Service and former members of the Colonial Service, who retired before any post-war salary increases were granted by the employing Governments.

The following statement relates to widows' pensions which commenced before the grant of any post-war salary increase by the employing Government concerned, except in the case of East and West Africa, where it relates to the pensions of widows of former Colonial Service Officers who retired before the first post-war salary increases.The average figures given in the table are for basic pensions only and do not include pensions increases.There were no widows' and orphans' pension schemes in the following countries prior to the 1st January, 1946:Aden, Bahamas, Gibraltar, Leeward and Windward Islands, St. Helena, Seychelles.I regret that I am not in a position to supply information about the payment of pensions by independent Commonwealth or foreign countries.

CountryAverage Widow's Pension£
Barbados163
Bermuda30
British Guiana130
British HondurasNo pensions in payment
East African Railways and Harbours Administration156

Country

Average Widow's Pension£

Falkland Islands107
Fiji140
Gambia109
Hong Kong166
Jamaica117
Kenya160
Malta107
Mauritius130
North Borneo146
Northern Rhodesia182
Nyasaland175
Sarawak254
Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland72
Trinidad110
Uganda165
Zanzibar149
Pensions in respect of service under more than one Government403

asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation, whether he will state in tabular form which Colonial and ex-Colonial Territories pay pensions increases lower than those received under the United Kingdom's Pensions (Increase) Act, 1959; and how many pensioners are involved in the case of each country or territory.

Full information regarding the total number of pensioners in each country receiving pensions increases lower than those paid under the United Kingdom Pensions (Increase) Act, 1959, is not at present available, but I will send my hon. Friend this information in respect of dependent territories as soon as I have obtained it. It will not be possible to supply this information in respect of pensioners of independent Commonwealth or foreign countries.

asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation if he will state in tabular form, for each Colonial and ex-Colonial Government, the number of pensioners, the number receiving less than United Kingdom rates, and the annual cost of pensions and pension increases to overseas pensioners paid through the Crown Agents; and what would be the annual cost of supplementing these rates so as to bring them into line with the Pensions (Increase) Act, 1959 of the United Kingdom.

The following table shows the number of overseas pensioners of dependent territories paid through the Crown Agents, the total cost of their basic pensions, and the annual cost of bringing all these pensions to the United Kingdom level. I regret that I am not in a position to supply information about the payment of pensions by independent Commonwealth or foreign

CountryNumber of PensionersNumber receiving less than United Kingdom ratesAnnual cost of Basic PensionsAnnual cost of supplementing to United Kingdom rates
££
Aden*22184,500800
Bahamas2300
Barbados82,300
Bermuda102,700
British Guiana601018,200220
British Honduras1191,200400
Brunei2215040
East African Common Services Organisation1902590,000780
Falkland Islands142,800
Fiji2669,800130
Gambia25107,000280
Gibraltar141,600
Hong Kong570259,000
Jamaica5029,70050
Kenya370110161,0003,300
Leeward Islands2200
Malta932,10070
Mauritius100525,000150
North Borneo4019,000
Northern Rhodesia2001290,000170
Nyasaland1401558,000470
St. Helena2130020
Sarawak4025,000
Seychelles2300
Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland2015,60025
Trinidad50512,300185
Uganda28075130,0002,500
Western Pacific High Commission511,40070
Windward Islands6360060
Zanzibar351512,200540
Mixed Service (East Africa)27080158,0002,200
Mixed Service (General)1,9205401,228,00031,600
* Improved rates have recently been authorised and will bring almost all Aden pensioners up to United Kingdom levels.

asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation, what is the average pension, territory by territory, paid through the Crown Agents to pensioners of Her Majesty's Overseas Civil Service and former members of the Colonial Service who retired before any post-war salary increases were granted by the employing Governments.

The following statement shows territory by territory the average annual pension paid through the Crown Agents to former overseas officers who retired before the grant of any post-war salary increases by the Governments concerned

countries. 1 also regret that separate information regarding the annual cost of existing pensions increases paid to overseas pensioners is not readily available and I do not feel justified in giving instructions for these details to be compiled.

The figures given in the statement relate to basic pensions only and do not include subsequent pensions increases. I regret that I am not in a position to supply information about the payment of pensions by independent Commonwealth or foreign countries.

Country

Average Pension £

Aden121
Bahamas157
Barbados64
BermudaNo pensions in payment
British Guiana187
British Honduras99

Country

Average Pension£

Brunei73
East African Railways and Harbours Administration276
Falkland Islands267
Fiji238
Gambia208
Gibraltar84
Hong Kong353
Jamaica149
Kenya342
Leeward IslandsNo pensions in payment
MaltaNo pensions in payment
Mauritius217
North Borneo474
Northern Rhodesia376
Nyasaland355
St. Helena84
Sarawak409
SeychellesNo pensions in payment
Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland176
Trinidad147
Uganda356

Country

Average Pension £

Windward Islands54
Mixed Pensions (East Africa).440
Mixed Pensions (General)496

Ministry Of Works

Richmond Park

asked the Minister of Works how many deer were killed or injured by motor vehicles in Richmond Park after lighting-up time since 4th August, 1960.

asked the Minister of Works how many of the five pedestrians injured in Richmond Park during 1960 and 1961 were involved in accidents after lighting-up time.