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Volume 658: debated on Thursday 19 April 1962

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 19th April, 1962

Tristan Da Cunha

Evacuees

3.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he is aware that the people evacuated from Tristan da Cunha desire to return to their island home; in view of their uncertainty about the position on the island, if he will now state the exact position; and if he will assess possibilities of an early return for these people.

I believe that at the moment some would like to return to Tristan. I am awaiting the preliminary report of the Royal Society Expedition so that I may consider the position.

Malta

Constitution

4

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what assurances he has given to the Prime Minister of Malta on the future financial aid to be given to the island; and to what extent restrictions in the new constitution are to be relaxed as a result of his recent interview with Dr. Borg Olivier.

Dr. Borg Olivier did not discuss the question of future aid to Malta in my recent discussions with him.With regard to the second part of the question I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the member for Brighton, Pavilion (Sir W. Teeling) on 16th April.

Colonial Territories

Grants And Loans

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will give figures showing the level of assistance provided to the less developed Colonial Territories from British and Russian sources, respectively, during the last three years, how much was Government aid; and how much was private investment.

Disbursements from U.K. Government funds in the form of bilateral grants and loans (figures for the financial year 1961–62 are not yet available: the figure given for 1961 is therefore for the calendar year):

1959–601960–611961
£58·7 m.£69·8 m.£94 m.
Estimated flow of private capital from the United Kingdom (only available on a calendar year basis).
195919601961
£33·0 m.£33·0 m.

*

There has been no Soviet economic assistance.

* Total to all less developed countries was £150 m. but it is not yet possible to indicate how much of this was for Colonial territories

Uganda

Rulers (Talks)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will make a statement about his talks with the rulers of certain of the Uganda kingdoms.

The following is the text of the statement which was issued on 14th April.

Discussions between the Secretary of State for the Colonies (Mr. Reginald Maudling) and the Omugabe of Ankole, the Omukama of Bunyoro, the Omukama of Toro and the Kyabazinga of Busoga about the constitutional position of the three Kingdoms and Busoga concluded on Thursday (12th April, 1962). The Secretary of State said that he was fully in sympathy with the desire expressed on behalf of the three Kingdoms and Busoga that their constitutional status should reflect the general wishes of the inhabitants of Uganda at the present time; and he noted that a resolution in support of their claim had recently been passed in the National Assembly with the support of both the political parties.
After giving full consideration to the representations made, Mr. Maudling assured the Rulers of Her Majesty's Government's willingness to negotiate new Agreements with them and that such Agreements would, as already envisaged, include suitable provisions to secure the traditional and instinctive institutions of the Kingdoms. He confirmed also that the Agreements would provide that the Ministers in the Kingdom Governments would act in accordance with the principle of collective responsibility. The Secretary of State agreed that appropriate revenues would be secured to them by the constitution and explained that the details would need to be discussed in the context of the June discussions and in the light of the final Report of the Fiscal Commission. The Secretary of State further agreed that the Kingdoms should, within certain defined fields of activity, enjoy exclusive powers of making enactments having the force of law.
Finally, Mr. Maudling informed the Rulers that if agreement could be reached on the privileges and powers to which he had referred, these matters would be entrenched in the constitution and would represent, and be expressed in the Agreements as a federal relationship with Uganda as a whole.
The Secretary of State informed the Kyabazinga of Busoga that he had taken full note of his representations. He pointed out that as Busoga had never had an Agreement with the Crown it could not be treated on the same basis as that proposed for the Kingdoms. Nevertheless, in view of the representations now made, Mr. Maudling accepted that the Busoga authorities would wish to have the question of Busoga's constitutional position reviewed in the general context of the June discussions.

Kenya

Northern Frontier District

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he will now announce the names and the terms of reference of the independent commission to ascertain public opinion in the Northern Frontier district of Kenya about the future status of the area.

The composition and terms of reference of this Commission are still under consideration. An announcement will be made as soon as possible.

Basutoland

Lerotholi Technical School

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies why the Lerotholi Technical School in Basutoland was closed in 1960; and when it will be re-opened.

The school closed in May, 1960, when the students went on strike. A Commission under the presidency of Sir Walter Harragin, former Chief Justice of the High Commission Territories, inquired into the causes of the strike in August, 1960, and recommended various reforms. The school has now been re-opened under its new name, the Lerotholi Artisan Training Centre, which is considered more appropriate in view of its functions.

Aden

Education

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether the number of candidates and of students for training as teachers in Aden has substantially increased; and to what extent the education of girls in the Colony and Protectorate, respectively, increased in the last 12 months.

In the Colony 82 persons were in training in 1960–61 and 75 in 1961–62: this may be compared with 39 in 1957–58. In the Protectorate the increase has been from 33 in 1960–61 to 56 in 1961–62. As regards the second part of the Question, in the Colony there has been an increase in the number of girls at school of 706 (i.e. about 28 per cent.) between 1960–61 and 1961–62: for the Protectorate I have no exact figure, but the increase has been about 23 per cent.

Education

Lcc Building Programme

29.

asked the Minister of Education whether he is aware of the general public anxiety about his failure to approve the proposals for school-building projects of the London County Council; if he will reconsider his decision; and if he will make a statement.

I have recently approved a school-building programme for the London County Council for the period 1963–64 amounting to over £1½ million which will all be spent on the improvement or replacement of existing schools. School population in the area is declining, and the authority therefore does not need schools, as do many other authorities, to provide for additional children.

Swimming Baths

asked the Minister of Education what steps he is taking to increase the number of swimming baths and swimming pools available for school children.

Thirty-seven covered and heated swimming baths were under construction at the end of December last. Eight more have been approved since then. I am sending the hon. Member a list with details.

Old Schools

asked the Minister of Education whether he intends to publish the results of his proposed survey of old schools.

A mass of information will be gathered, and I certainly hope to publish some of it in a convenient form.

St Mary Redcliffe School, Bristol

asked the Minister of Education, in view of the facts that a definite undertaking had been given to the Bristol Education Committee that the St. Mary Redcliffe Secondary School was to be constructed next year, and that a school in this area is needed, and in view of the damaging effect that his decision to change this proposal has had on local confidence in future promises, if he will now reconsider his decision not to proceed with this building.

I have discussed this project with representatives of the Church and of the authority, and I explained to them why I am unable to reinstate it in the 1963–64 building programme.

Bristol

asked the Minister of Education why he cut the educational financial requirements of Bristol after the education committee had concluded that their programme represented the minimum needs of the city.

The Bristol school population is decreasing and a large share of the school building allocation for 1963–64 has had to go to expanding ing areas where new schools are essential.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Fish (Foreign Landings)

34.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether his attention has been drawn to the exceptionally heavy landings of foreign fish in the last few weeks; and to what extent these landings are causing harm to the British fishing industry.

Landings of foreign fish have been heavier than usual in recent weeks. Where the last part of the question is concerned, considerable variation in the weight of fish landed both by British and foreign vessels is a feature to which the industry is well accustomed.

Meat Exporting Countries (Talks)

35.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what results he has obtained from his talks with representatives of the meat exporting countries; and if he will make a statement.

The response has been helpful and I am sure that our meat suppliers are fully aware of our difficulties. A precise forecast is, of course, impossible, but their replies encourage me to think that their exports to us this year will not be higher than last year.

Vegetable Prices

36

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware of the recent increases in vegetable prices; and if he will introduce legislation to enable him to control the retail prices of these commodities in order to mitigate the present hardship caused to pensioners and other poor people.

After a difficult growing season and a severe winter such as we have just had, fresh vegetables are inevitably scarcer and dearer. Price control could not relieve a temporary shortage. It would do nothing to increase supplies or improve distribution.

Milk

37.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has now been able to make arrangements with the Milk Marketing Board for all milk produced this spring that is surplus to home requirements to foe processed and made available to famine relief organisations.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Wood Green (Mrs. Butler) on 12th April.

Docks (Perishable Foodstuffs)

39

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give an assurance that adequate emergency plans exist to move vegetable and other highly perishable foodstuffs from the docks in the event of a widespread dock strike; and if he will make a statement.

I do not think that it would be advisable for me to make a statement on the action that might have to be taken by the Government in such circumstances.

Fat Cattle (Grading)

42.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what consultations he had with farm representatives on the revised standards for fat cattle grading.

The revised standards were discussed with representatives of the farming organisations both before and during the Annual Review.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will grant official recognition to the liaison officers appointed by the local branches of the National Farmers' Union to meet his Department's grading officers over disputed grading of fat cattle.

My Department's fat-stock officers are already in close touch with these liaison officers who perform a very valuable service in the markets, and they will certainly be glad to discuss any disputed grading with them. The final decision on the grading of any animal for subsidy purposes must, however, remain the responsibility of the fatstock officer.

Potato Marketing Scheme

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the fines imposed by the Potato Marketing Board on farmers for reproduction of potatoes at a time when there is a serious shortage of home-grown potatoes, he will consider amending the scheme under which the Board operates.

The points of substance raised by the hon. Member were debated on 17th April, when the House agreed to certain amendments to the scheme.

Heifer Calves (Vaccination)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the estimated annual cost of providing free vaccination for heifer calves against contagious abortion and brucellosis.

Assuming that 1,000,000 heifer calves are vaccinated the total annual cost of providing free vaccination against brucellosis is likely to be about £290,000.

Horticulture Improvement Scheme

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many applications for assistance under the Horticulture Improvement Scheme have been received from Kent farmers, how many were granted, and what was the sum involved.

By the end of March, 1962, 553 applications for grant under the Horticulture Improvement Scheme had been received from growers and growers' marketing co-operatives in Kent. Four hundred and twenty-nine of these have been approved, 80 withdrawn or rejected, and 44 are under consideration. The approved proposals are estimated to cost £1,155,338 on which grant would be £385,113, of which £106,171 has already been paid.

Fat Cattle (Guarantee Payment)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish figures of fat cattle accepted for guarantee in the period 1st January to 31st March, 1961, and 1962, and the cost of the deficiency payment.

From 2nd January to 2nd April, 1961, 531,112 cattle were accepted and the guarantee payment was £5,989,338. The corresponding figures from 1st January to 1st April, 1962, are estimated to be 582,000 and £6,105,000.

Wholesale Market Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish rises and falls in wholesale prices weekly, together with a bulletin giving the housewife guidance on these prices.

Wholesale market prices for a wide range of home-grown agricultural products and some imported foodstuffs have been collected and published weekly by my Department for many years.

Store Cattle (Import From Republic Of Ireland)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will announce the date when store cattle from the Irish Republic, which have passed one tuberculin test, will cease to be imported into Great Britain.

The Government have agreed with the Government of the Irish Republic the terms on which the importation of once-tested store cattle into Great Britain may be ended as from 31st December, 1962.On 23rd March, 1959, the Government announced their intention that as soon as possible after the whole of Great Britain became attested in 1960 imports of store cattle into Great Britain should be confined to attested animals. Since, however, enough attested cattle were unlikely to be available for importation by that time, the Government had informed the Government of the Irish Republic that for five years, subject to annual review, we should be prepared to allow the continued importation into Great Britain of cattle which had passed a single tuberculin test not more than 14 days before export.A joint review of this arrangement has recently been made, taking into account:

  • (i) the marked and progressive increase during the past year in the number and proportion of store cattle of attested status imported into Great Britain from the Irish Republic;
  • (ii) the related sharp decline in the number of once-tested store cattle imported into Great Britain; and
  • (iii) the satisfactory progress of the tuberculosis clearance measures now in operation in nine eastern and midland counties of the Irish Republic. With the ten counties which have already been declared attested, these counties are the main source of supply of store cattle for export to Great Britain.
  • It has been agreed between the two Governments that on the understanding that these nine eastern and midland counties will become attested by the end of the present year, the present arrangements for the import of once-tested store cattle into Great Britain from the Irish Republic should terminate on 31st December, 1962.

    Plant Breeders' Rights

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to introduce legislation to cover patent rights on agricultural and horticultural produce.

    Consultations are taking place with the interests concerned on possible arrangements for a system of plant breeders' rights on the lines recommended by the Committee on Transactions in Seeds, but I regret I cannot yet say when it will be possible to introduce the necessary legislation.

    Trade And Commerce

    Port Glasgow Industrial Estate

    44.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he has now concluded the negotiations to acquire land for the expansion of the Port Glasgow Industrial Estate; and if he will make a statement about future plans for building on this site.

    Negotiations for the purchase of this land are expected to be completed shortly and my right hon. Friend hopes that it will then be possible to attract new industry to the area.

    Merseyside

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state, for each year from 1946 to the present time, for the Lancashire and Cheshire sides, respectively, of the Merseyside Development Area as defined in the 1949 Merseyside Development Area Order, the number of factories over 5,000 square feet in area approved and completed, respectively, the total area of factory space involved, and the approximate numbers employed when in full production or estimated to be employed when approval was given.

    The information is as follows:

    ApprovalsCompletions
    Number of SchemesArea '000 sq. ft.Estimated additional employmentNumber of SchemesArea '000 sq. ft.Estimated additional employment
    MERSEYSIDE: NORTH
    1946297483,009110
    1947206504,326883282
    1948161,1002,249194362,095
    1949461,4353,034142941,206
    1950401,4075,6758160278
    1951392,4309,805321,4624,773
    1952251,1661,424377452,668
    1953486662,467281,7465,156
    1954391,5413,183355902,068
    1955542,9059,160396742,337
    1956336311,450377751,577
    1957308672,112318943,561
    195830455825294281,215
    1959611,1744,04928527887
    1960657,85432,424407872,924
    1961276801,720451,2575,137
    MERSEYSIDE: SOUTH
    194661566001726
    194772181,681
    1948112617958134996
    1949152507253152700
    195010317709611079
    195117481811112631,117
    19527691229133127
    19534843216324612
    1954143901,1869222263
    1955178021,64112103100
    1956104771,29211367882
    1957148859537213573
    1958894189115061,220
    1959178102,0837306389
    1960135252,93714451545
    1961812655368452

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state in respect of the Lancashire and Cheshire sides, respectively, of the Merseyside Development Area, as defined in the 1949 Merseyside Development Area Order, the number of firms receiving assistance under the Distribution of Industry Acts, 1945 and 1950, and the total floor area of the factories involved, and for the Lancashire and Cheshire areas, respectively, of Merseyside, the number and floor area of factories receiving assistance under the Local Employment Act, 1960.

    My right hon. Friend is obtaining this information and will write to the right hon. Member within the next few days.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state the number of factories built each year and the total area of floor space involved in that part of the Merseyside Development Area covered by the Liverpool Corporation Act, 1936, from 1946 to the present time.

    North Warwick Colliery

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will consider suitable applications for industrial development certificates in the villages of Polesworth and Arrington, in view of the forthcoming closure of North Warwick Colliery and the consequent redundancy of many coal miners.

    My right hon. Friend understands that North Warwick Colliery is to go on to single-shift working in August, and, that 300–450 men will be transferred to other pits in the neighbourhood. He does not consider that any special action in relation to the issue of industrial development certificates is called for.

    Tourism (Exhibition)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will arrange for an exhibition for the benefit of tourism to be held in the Palace of Westminster.

    Yes. My right hon. Friend has made arrangements for the British Travel and Holidays Association to hold an exhibition of its work in the Upper Waiting Hall. I hope that this exhibition can take place from 21st May to 25th May.

    National Finance

    University (Carlisle)

    45.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer on what date he received from the city of Carlisle the petition sent to him requesting the establishment of a university; and what reply he made.

    Post-War Credits

    46.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are his estimates of the cost of paying out postwar credits to disabled ex-Service men and to industrially disabled persons, respectively.

    National Economic Development Council

    47.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give details of the arrangements that have been made for servicing the National Economic Development Council; what information is being supplied to its members for their next meeting; how often it is intended that this committee shall meet; and when he expects its first advice to be available to Her Majesty's Government.

    A small staff is being built up under the Director-General. The services of Government Departments are also being made available. It is not intended to publish details of the information given to the Council.The Council will meet next on 9th May and again in June and July; it is not yet decided on its further programme. My right hon. Friend expects each meeting to provide some useful exchange of views, but it will be for the Council to decide when it is ready to proffer formal advice to Her Majesty's Government.

    University Places

    48 and 49.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will give the estimated number of students whose application for university training will be refused because of the shortage of places, for the years 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965 and 1966;(2) if he will give the estimated number of students who will be applying for university places for the years 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965 and 1966.

    To arrive at estimates in the form requested would entail making a series of assumptions about the future numbers of those obtaining appropriate qualifications for university entry. This is a matter on which I have no doubt that the Committee on Higher Education will have views, based on much fuller statistics than have been available in the past, and I would prefer to await their findings.I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer which I gave on 10th April, which indicated that over the next five years the percentage of the relevant age-group entering the universities would remain at least as high as at present.

    Expenses

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the revenue gain if all expenses, other than those incurred abroad, were disallowed.

    I assume my hon. Friend has in mind expenses on entertaining, travelling, subsistence etc., allowed either in computing profits assessable under Schedule D or as a deduction from emoluments assessable under Schedule E. I regret that this information is not available.

    Widows' Pensions

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if in future he will exempt Service widows' pensions from liability to Income Tax.

    My right hon. and learned Friend regrets that he could not recommend this course.

    Rating Valuation (Central Hearing)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware of the decision of a rating and valuation court which increased the gross valuation of a house in St. Isan Road. Cardiff, by £3 per year following the installation of central heating; and if he will suspend investigations by the Inland Revenue valuation officers at Cardiff into the number of houses having central heating and other internal domestic amenities which may attract higher rating assessments.

    The proposals which gave rise to these proceedings were made by the valuation officer at the request of the Cardiff Corporation. Valuation officers have a statutory duty to make such proposals in any case where an alteration to a property has, in their opinion, increased its letting value. This, of course, applies to all kinds of alterations, not only to the installation of central heating.

    University Teachers (Salaries)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement on the effects on the scales of academic salaries of the 3 per cent. increase recently announced in the total provision for academic salaries.

    I am advised by the University Grants Committee that in their view the increase in the total salary bill for university teachers which the Government have been able to sanction this year should be directed to improving the salary scales of lecturers and assistant lecturers. The Government accept this advice. The new scales thus recommended for lecturers and assistant lecturers, details of which are set out below, are effective from 1st April, 1962. There will be minor consequential adjustments for certain senior lecturers and readers whose present salaries are below the new maximum for lecturers. The cost of this increase will be approximately £1 million in a full year, on the basis of current numbers. The sums provided to meet the increase will be additional to the recurrent grants recently announced.NON-MEDICAL POSTS

    Assistant Lecturers

    • Present scale—A scale rising from £800 × £50—£950 a year
    • New scale—A scale rising from £900 × £50—£1,050 a year

    Lecturers

    • Present scale—Scales rising generally from £1,050 × £50—£1,400 × £75—£1,850 a year
    • New scales—Scales rising generally from £1,150 × £50—£1,500 × £75—£1,950 a year

    PRE-CLINICAL POSTS

    Lecturers

    • Present scales—Scales rising generally from £1,050 × £100 to maxima ranging from £1,850—£2,525
    • New scales—Scales rising generally from £1,150 × £100 to maxima ranging from £1,950—£2,525

    CLINICAL POSTS

    Lecturers

    • Present scales—Scales rising from £1,050 × £100 to maxima ranging from £2,200 to £3,200 a year (or, in the case of Lecturers holding positions of special responsibility. £3,500 a year).
    • New scales—Scales rising from £1,150 × £100 to maxima ranging from £2,200 to £3,200 a year (or, in the case of Lecturers holding positions of special responsibility, £3,500 a year).

    University Grants

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in the light of the publication of the Interim Report on University Development, Command Paper No. 1691, which reveals the inadequacy of university facilities, and in order to preserve university standards of accommodation, teaching and research during the period of expansion, he will now increase the grants to universities beyond the level at present proposed.

    The Interim Report draws attention, amongst other things, to the very large increases in the level of both recurrent and non-recurrent grants which have taken place over the first four years of the present quinquennium to assist the universities. The greatly increased recurrent grants which I have announced for the next five years, together with the present programme of university building starts, represent a further large growth in the level of Exchequer assistance.I have already said that in my view it would be right to review the university financial situation in, say, two years' time, in the light of how the expansion was going forward, how prices were moving, and how the long-term economic outlook had developed.

    Home Department

    Driving Offences (Drunkenness)

    50.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has now completed his review of the instructions to the Metropolitan Police regarding the desirability of police doctors being called to give evidence in cases of driving under the influence of drink.

    The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis has now completed his review and has issued fresh instructions in regard to the procedure relating to arrest for driving while under the influence of drink. These involve some changes in the procedure previously in force. On the particular point raised by the hon. Member, the instructions will ensure that the evidence of a police doctor is made available to the court by the prosecution in contested cases, along with evidence from eyewitnesses and, when available, the results of chemical tests showing the amount of alcohol consumed.

    Traffic Routes (High Holborn)

    51.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will suggest to the Commissioner of Police that when the subway under Theobalds Road is constructed he should bring back into use for traffic those portions of High Holborn and the streets merging into it which have now been either completely cut off from use by traffic, or which are barely used because of the existing temporary one-way street scheme.

    I understand that no street in this area has been completely cut off from use by traffic, although some in the vicinity of High Holborn and Southampton Row are carrying less traffic than formerly. As explained in reply to a Question asked by the hon. Member on 4th March, the working of the present traffic routes is being watched by the Commissioner of Police, but the long-term traffic arrangements to be adopted following the completion of the works will be a matter for my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport.

    Betting Offices

    52

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in view of the increase of evening racing, what steps he intends to take to vary the compulsory closing hours of licensed betting offices in order to prevent illegal betting taking place.

    My right hon. Friend has received representations from organisations representing bookmakers that licensed betting offices should be allowed to remain open after 6.30 p.m., the closing hour at present fixed by regulation, on days when evening horse races take place. My right hon. Friend is considering these representations.

    Lorry Explosion, West Bromwich (Inquiry)

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the inquiry to be conducted by his Department into the recent explosion at West Bromwich involving a lorry carrying chemicals will be a public inquiry.

    No. An inquiry involving laboratory experiments and tests of the chemicals being carried is being conducted by the manufacturers. Some supplementary tests involving the employment of special techniques are being conducted by the Home Office.

    Betting Office Licences

    58.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the operation of the Betting and Gaming Act, 1960, with particular reference to the granting of licences for betting shops to small bookmakers; and to what extent such licences have been granted to large bookmaking firms.

    I have no information as to the grant of betting office licences to large firms as distinct from small bookmakers.

    Hill Hall Prison, Theydon Mount

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the estimated cost to public funds of the proposed semi-secure prison at Hill Hall, Theydon Mount, Essex, including the preparation of the site, provision of drainage and other connected expenses.

    Plans for this establishment have still to be fully worked out. At present a rough estimate of the cost is £750,000.

    Commonwealth Immigrants Act

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now make a statement about the coming into force of the provisions of the Commonwealth Immigrants Act.

    I have today made an order bringing Part I of the Act into force on 1st July, 1962. This means that the immigration of Commonwealth citizens on or after that date will be subject to control, and those coming for employment will require employment vouchers.Arrangements are being made to publicise in all Commonwealth countries the main features of the control and the date on which it will come into force. Forms of application for employment vouchers will be available in overseas territories by the end of this month, and arrangements are in hand for our posts overseas to operate the entry certificate procedure for those who wish to take advantage of it.There may be a few cases where sea passages have been booked, in ships arriving here shortly after 1st July, by persons who may not be able to secure vouchers before leaving. Such persons will be dealt with sympathetically, and arrangements are being made, where appropriate, to assist them by means of the entry certificate procedure.Under my order, Part II of the Act, dealing with deportation, and Part HI, containing miscellaneous provisions, will come into operation on 31st May, 1962.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take early action to enable him to deport the Pakistanis who exploit immigrants by trading them in employment and other activities, and are recommended by the courts for deportation under the relevant provisions of the Commonwealth Immigrants Act.

    I have today made an order bring into force on 31st May next the provisions of the Commonwealth Immigrants Act relating to deportation.

    Prisons

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department to what extent the prisons are now overcrowded; how many prisons are now under construction to alleviate the present overcrowding; and when the first of them will be ready for occupation.

    On 3rd April, 1962, there were 8,184 prisoners sleeping three in a cell. Six new establishments partly occupied, and fourteen others, are under construction, and plans for twelve more are going ahead. Sites for four further establishments are under consideration. All these will relieve overcrowding. The next establishment to be opened, on 17th May, is Bulwood borstal for girls. It will release accommodation in Durham and Manchester prisons.

    Experiments On Living Animals

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department where the four hundred and sixteen places outside London authorised for experiments on living animals are situated.

    The places are situated in the counties as follows:

    England and Wales
    Bedfordshire3
    Berkshire11
    Buckinghamshire7
    Caernarvonshire4
    Cambridgeshire9
    Cardiganshire2
    Carmarthenshire2
    Cheshire11
    Cornwall3
    Cumberland3
    Denbighshire2
    Derbyshire1
    Devonshire9
    Dorsetshire1
    Durham4
    Essex17
    Glamorganshire4
    Gloucestershire8
    Hampshire21
    Hertfordshire20
    Huntingdonshire5
    Kent15
    Lancashire26
    Leicestershire7

    Lincolnshire3
    Middlesex14
    Monmouthshire7
    Norfolk2
    Northamptonshire6
    Northumberland6
    Nottinghamshire1
    Oxfordshire5
    Shropshire5
    Somerset2
    Staffordshire8
    Suffolk6
    Surrey25
    Sussex11
    Warwickshire17
    Westmorland1
    Wiltshire7
    Worcestershire4
    Yorkshire34

    Scotland

    Aberdeenshire7
    Angus2
    Ayrshire3
    Dumfriesshire3
    Dunbartonshire1
    Fife2
    Inverness-shire3
    Lanarkshire16
    Midlothian15
    Perthshire1
    Renfrewshire2
    Stirlingshire1
    West Lothian1
    Total416

    Central Africa

    Secretary Of State (Visit)

    54.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (Central African Office), when he now expects to visit Rhodesia.

    56.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (Central African Office), if he will now state when he expects to visit the Central African Federation.

    I expect to visit the Federation next month, arriving in Salisbury on 11th May and staying in the Federation for rather more than two weeks.

    Southern Rhodesia

    Constitution

    55.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (Central African Office) if, in view of the discussions between Her Majesty's Government and the United Nations sub-committee on Rhodesia, he will introduce legislation to suspend the implementation of the new Constitution of Southern Rhodesia.

    Northern Rhodesia

    Legislative Council Elections (Disqualification)

    57.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (Central African Office) whether the Government of Northern Rhodesia has now decided to alter the law under which anyone who has served a sentence of imprisonment for six months or more is disqualified for five years from being elected to the Legislative Council.

    Ministry Of Defence

    Nuclear Weapons

    59.

    asked the Minister of Defence whether he is satisfied that the present arrangements for the control of the use of nuclear bombs from Great Britain or British bases make adequate provision against misleading radar signals, negative signals due to interruption of communication lines and other possibilities of error; and if he will make a statement.

    I am satisfied with present arrangements which are regularly reviewed.

    Roads

    Easter Holiday Period (50 Mph Speed Limit)

    61.

    asked the Minister of Transport why he will not impose the holiday speed limit of 50 miles per hour at Easter.

    62 and 63.

    asked the Minister of Transport (1) why he is not imposing a restricted speed limit during the Easter holiday;(2) in view of the late Easter and unusually long winter, if he is aware that if good weather prevails over the Easter period there will be a mass exodus from town to country; and if he will now consider imposing restricted speed limits on certain roads to help eliminate the high accident rate.

    Experience has shown that the traffic volume at Easter is not comparable with that at Whitsun and on summer week-ends and for this reason no speed limit is being imposed this Easter.

    Eastern Avenue, Ilford (Gypsies)

    asked the Minister of Transport what action he is taking to deal with the problem of the gypsy caravan dwellers on Eastern Avenue, Ilford, who are occupying the grass verges, having been removed from Essex County Council land in the vicinity.

    After staying a short time on the trunk road verge, several caravans moved onto adjoining land owned by the Essex County Council, and were there joined by more caravans. Asked by the county council to move away, they all dispersed on 16th April.

    Spain (Mr And Mrs Scott)

    64.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he is aware that two British subjects. Mr. and Mrs. Peter Scott, have been in jail in Spain since last September for non-payment of a fine of some £9,000 in respect of an alleged offence of attempting to export works of art from Spain; whether, in view of the fact that they were ignorant of the Spanish law in this respect, he will make representations for their release: and whether he will make a statement.

    Every effort has been made to obtain fair and proper treatment for Mr. and Mrs. Scott, but, as my hon. and learned Friend will realise. Her Majesty's Government have no standing to intervene in the application of Spanish law.

    Commonwealth Preference

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what representations have been received from the Government of the United States of America on the subject of Commonwealth Preferences.

    My hon. Friend will not expect me to reveal details of Her Majesty's Government's confidential exchanges with other Governments.

    United States Sugar Imports

    Q7.

    asked the Prime Minister if, during his forthcoming talks with President Kennedy, he will discuss with him the possibilities of more effective co-operation between the United States of America and countries in the British Commonwealth with regard to participation in American sugar imports.

    My talks with President Kennedy will naturally be confidential, but, of course, I recognise the importance of this among other trade matters to which hon. Members have called my attention.

    Nuclear Tests

    Q8.

    asked the Prime Minister if he has now reached an agreement with President Kennedy about the number of atmospheric tests to be conducted in the proposed United States test series over Christmas Island.

    The programme has been provisionally agreed, though it may be subject to some variation within the scope of the agreed programme.

    Council Of Europe And Western European Union (Delegates)

    asked the Prime Minister if he will state the names of the delegates from the United Kingdom Parliament to the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe.

    The Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe will be meeting in Strasbourg from 15th to 18th May. I have appointed eighteen delegates from the Parliament of the United Kingdom. These delegates are appointed for one year and will take part in the committee work of the Consultative Assembly. The delegation this year, as last, will consist of ten Members of the Conservative Party, seven Members of the Labour Party, and one representative of the Liberal Party. I have also appointed a number of substitute delegates.The appointments of Labour and Liberal representatives and substitutes have been made on the basis of nominations by the Leaders of those parties. The same delegation will be representing the United Kingdom Parliament at the Assembly of Western European Union which will meet from 4th to 8th June.Representatives from the Government benches will be:Lord Crathorne,The hon. Members for

    • Beckenham (Mr. P. Goodhart).
    • Stroud (Mr. A. Kershaw),
    • Gravesend (Mr. P. M. Kirk),
    • Belfast, West (Mrs. P. McLaughlin),
    • Halifax (Mr. Maurice Macmillan),
    • Honiton (Mr. R. Mathew),
    • Leicester, South-East (Mr. W. J. Peel),
    • Wembley, South (Mr. R. S. Russell), and
    • Viscount Stonehaven.

    Representatives from the Labour Party will be:

    The right hon. Members for

    • Belper (Mr. G. Brown),
    • Smethwick (Mr. P. C. Gordon Walker).

    The hon. Members for

    • Liverpool, Edge Hill (Mr. A. J. Irvine),
    • Lewisham, South (Mr. C. Johnson),
    • Woolwich, East (Mr. C. P. Mayhew),
    • Glasgow, Craigton (Mr. B. Millan),
    • Kensington, North (Mr. G. H. R. Rogers).

    The representative from the Liberal Party will be:

    Lord Grantchester.

    The following substitutes have been appointed to act for the delegates when they are absent from Strasbourg:

    From the Government benches:

    The hon. Members for

    • Buckinghamshire, South (Mr. R. M. Bell),
    • Antrim, North (Mr. H. M. Clark),
    • Worthing (Sir O. L. Prior-Palmer),
    • Cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. N. Ridley),
    • Cornwall, North (Mr. J. Scott-Hopkins),
    • Bradford, West (Mr. A. Tiley).

    From the Labour Party:

    The hon. Members for

    • Shoreditch and Finsbury (Mr. M. Cliffe),
    • Wednesbury (Mr. J. Stonehouse),
    • Hammersmith, North (Mr. F. Tomney), and
    • Lord Kennet.

    From the Liberal Party:

    The hon. Member for

    Huddersfleld, West (Mr. D. W. Wade).

    Nigeria (Gift Of Speaker's Chair)

    asked the Prime Minister what proposals will be made to this House for a gift from the House of Commons to the Nigerian House of Representatives to commemorate the attainment by Nigeria of her independence.

    Her Majesty's Government will propose that the House should offer the gift of a Speaker's Chair on behalf of this House to the Nigerian House of Representatives in commemoration of the attainment of independence by the Federation of Nigeria.

    Royal Navy

    Rents, Rosyth

    asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty what consultations he had respectively with the Scottish National Housing Company Limited and the trades unions representing Admiralty employees, before agreeing to the proposed rent increases for Scottish National Housing Company houses in the Rosyth area.

    The Admiralty was consulted by the Department of Health for Scotland about the proposed rent increases and agreed to them. The tenants of the houses in question have been given 6 weeks' notice of the new rents which will range between 13s. and 25s. a week. No representations on the subject have been received from trade unions representing Admiralty employees and no specific consultations with the trade unions have therefore been held.

    Ministry Of Aviation

    Corporations (Finance)

    asked the Minister of Aviation whether he has any proposals for meeting the future borrowing requirements of the airline Corporations, in view of the information in the White Paper on Government Expenditure Below the Line, Command Paper No. 1680, that by the end of 1962–63 the total amounts outstanding will be near the limits prescribed in the Air Corporations Act, 1960.

    Yes. Requirements are bound to increase, making necessary an increase in the limits, if the Corporations are to finance the replacement and expansion of their fleets. Moreover, in view of adverse trading results in 1961–62 and the uncertain prospects, it will be necessary as early as possible to seek specific Parliamentary authority for Exchequer advances made to meet the Corporation's losses on current account. I accordingly propose, as soon as the Parliamentary timetable permits, to ask the House to approve amending legislation on both points.

    Commonwealth Relations

    Ex-Overseas Civil Servants (Pensions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what information he has received since 21st December, 1961, from the Governments of ex-colonial territories of increases they have made in the pensions awarded to ex-overseas civil servants.

    Local Government

    Thames-Side Cement Works

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what means the Alkali Inspectorate have after the event for determining whether a precipitator at a Thames-side Cement Works has been shut down during the night.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to a Question by him on the 17th April.

    Housing

    Rating Valuation

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs why the total rateable value of houses in England and Wales is expected to rise about 2·7 times after the 1963 revaluation, from £343 million to £913 million, whereas the table in Appendix H of Command Paper No. 1663 shows that rateable values will have risen about 3·6 times between 1939 and 1963.

    The rise in 1963 of about 2·7 times is from the levels of the current valuation lists, which stem from the revaluation of 1956. The examples in Appendix II cover the difference between the estimated values of 1963 and those of the pre-war valuation lists.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what instructions he has given to officials of his Department in regard to their interpretation of those rating and valuation laws which penalise householders who seek to improve the internal and domestic amenities of their homes.

    None. Those responsible for valuing property for rating purposes or for adjudicating in disputes over valuations are not officials of my Department.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what discussions he has had with valuation authorities regarding the extent to which central heating systems are included in domestic valuations, with particular reference to the merits of installing such systems as set out in the booklet entitled Homes for Today and Tomorrow, published by his Department.

    None. Valuation for rating is carried out by valuation officers of the Board of Inland Revenue on principles laid down by law, and I am not authorised to influence the way they apply them.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he is aware of the intrusion into the privacy of the individual involved in the action of official inspectors in seeking access to private houses for the purpose of examining what improvements have been carried out affecting the gross valuation; and if he will introduce legislation to curb their rights of access for such purposes.

    No. Inspection is a normal part of the valuation process, and I do not consider there are any grounds for concern about it.

    New Town Development Corporations

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many houses and flats were built during each year from 1953 to 1961 by each new town development corporation; how many were under construction on 31st March of each year, including 31st March, 1962; and how many are expected to be completed during 1962 and 1963.

    The figures are as follows:

    NUMBER OF DWELLINGS COMPLETED (OR ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETED) BY NEW TOWN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS IN THE FINANCIAL YEARS 1952–3–1963–4 AND NUMBER UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT 31ST MARCH
    TownYearCompletedUnder Construction
    Basildon1952–3517331
    1953–4540449
    1954–5832877
    1955–61,1721,295
    1956–71,5171,304
    1957–81,2971,287
    1958–91,2671,074
    1959–601,0181,416
    1960–11,1431,636
    1961–21,047873
    1962–3
    (estimated)850
    1963–4
    (estimated)850
    Bracknell1952–3146257
    1953–4231653
    1954–5540685
    1955–6421845
    1956–7659547
    1957–85901,047
    1958–9918466
    1959–60440540
    1960–1312472
    1961–2441292
    1962–3
    (estimated)300
    1963–4
    (estimated)350
    Corby1952–3180380
    1953–4388249
    1954–5355549
    1955–6407755
    1956–7554646
    1957–8562429

    TownYearCompletedUnder Construction
    1958–9485455
    1959–60415366
    1960–1383678
    1961–2457579
    1962–3
    (estimated)450
    1963–4
    (estimated)450
    Crawley1952–39221,076
    1953–41,2031,482
    1954–51,576779
    1955–61,1471,729
    1956–71,8621,772
    1957–81,861247
    1958–9416519
    1959–60524480
    1960–148099
    1961–299407
    1962–3
    (estimated)150
    1963–4
    (estimated)400
    Cwmbran1952–3294163
    1953–4262640
    1954–5710695
    1955–6461808
    1956–7680682
    1957–8562569
    1958–9483495
    1959–60446453
    1960–1451352
    1961–2115287
    1962–3
    (estimated)250
    1963–4
    (estimated)350
    Harlow1952–31,3251,302
    1953–41,6792,203
    1954–51,977934
    1955–61,4591,678
    1956–71,5571,823
    1957–81,6101,038
    1958–91,028918
    1959–601,0141,140
    1960–18681,097
    1961–2950807
    1962–3
    (estimated)800
    1963–4
    (estimated)600
    Hatfield1952–3337354
    1953–4364401
    1954–542063
    1955–6158748
    1956–7766143
    1957–816622
    1958–938262
    1959–60168407
    1960–1319418
    1961–2323259
    1962–3
    (estimated)200
    1963–4
    (estimated)300

    TownYearCompletedUnder Construction
    Hemel1952–31,0831,190
    Hempstead1953–41,1421,015
    1954–59281,238
    1955–69621,785
    1956–71,448826
    1957–8740696
    1958–9574830
    1959–607161,066
    1960–16621,162
    1961–2699823
    1962–3
    (estimated)650
    1963–4
    (estimated)500
    Newton1952–3434459
    Aycliffe1953–4569436
    1954–5590246
    1955–6343157
    1956–7199291
    1957–8373154
    1958–920282
    1959–60150367
    1960–1304323
    1961–2291216
    1962–3
    (estimated)200
    1963–4
    (estimated)250
    Peterlee1952–3510274
    1953–4589244
    1954–5310335
    1955–6604314
    1956–735251
    1957–8112355
    1958–9343500
    1959–60280426
    1960–1255317
    1961–2324177
    1962–3
    (estimated)200
    1963–4
    (estimated)300
    Stevenage1952–3700844
    1953–48551,751
    1954–51,2531,871
    1955–61,0861,671
    1956–71,2821,039
    1957–81,0551,086
    1958–91,1471,146
    1959–609701,014
    1960–1943758
    1961–25121,464
    1962–3
    (estimated)1,100
    1963–4
    (estimated)900
    Welwyn1952–3378488
    Garden City1953–4465548
    1954–5563713
    1955–6693568
    1956–7514404
    1957–8448345
    1958–9375253
    1959–60255626
    1960–1381642
    1961–2371447
    1961–2
    (estimated)400
    1963–4
    (estimated)350

    Ministry Of Health

    Smallpox

    asked the Minister of Health what consultations have been held with local health authorities concerning the possible spread of smallpox as a result of schools being opened for the accommodation of the Aldermaston marchers at Easter.

    Hospitals

    Rampton And Moss Side

    asked the Minister of Health what is his policy with regard to the future of the special hospitals of Rampton and Moss Side in relation to the Hospital Plan.

    No major change in policy affecting these hospitals is at present contemplated.

    asked the Minister of Health how many children under the age of 14 years are inmates of Rampton Hospital.

    Employment

    Industrial Accidents (Young Persons)

    asked the Minister of Labour how many young persons were injured in industrial accidents during 1961; how many were killed; and what were the comparable figures for 1960.

    A total of 12,695 accidents were reported of which 21 were fatal. The 1960 total was 12,651 which included 16 fatal accidents.

    School Leavers

    asked the Minister of Labour what were the numbers and the percentages of school-leavers between 1st December, 1961, and 31st March, 1962, or the nearest convenient dates, who entered employment in each of the following categories, namely, apprenticeship to skilled occupation, employment leading to professional qualifications, clerical employment, employment with training not covered by the preceding categories, and other employment.

    Class of EmploymentBoysGirls
    Number enteringPer cent. of total entrantsNumber enteringPer cent. of total entrants
    (1) Apprenticeship to skilled occupations.31,14735·16,0727·0
    (2) Employment leading to recognised professional qualifications.7560·85130·6
    (3) Clerical employment5,6556·426,74030·7
    (4) Employment with training not covered in (1)-(3) above13,58815·310,40311·9
    (5) Other employment37,67942·443,34749·8
    TOTAL88,82587,075

    Wireless And Television

    Reception, Dundee (Ita Programmes)

    asked the Postmaster-General what investigations Post Office engineers have been making into reception of Independent Television Authority programmes in Dundee; what recommendations they have made to the Independent Television Authority about the improvement of reception; and what reply they have received.

    My engineers have been measuring the field strengths of I.T.A. transmitters in different parts of Dundee and the results are now being analysed. The I.T.A. have told me they are at present making their own measurements. The question of a satellite station for the area is being considered.

    Scotland

    Potatoes

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the present level of potato stocks in Scotland; and how long he estimates that these will last.

    The Potato Marketing Board estimate that present stocks of ware potatoes in Scotland are of the order of 30 to 40 thousand tons. There are too many uncertain factors in the situation to make it possible to predict with any certainty how long these stocks will last. It will depend in particular

    The figures for the period 1st December, 1961, to 31st March. 1962, are as follows:ticular on the level of home consumption and the availability of imports of old and new potatoes during the coming weeks.

    Midwives

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish figures showing the birth rate, the number of practising midwives, and the number of pupil midwives during each of the last five years.

    The following is the information requested:

    STAFF EMPLOYED IN HOSPITAL AND DOMICILIARY SERVICES
    YearBirths per 1,000 estimated populationMidwivesPupil Midwives
    195719·021,6201,000
    195819·251,6351,080
    195918·321,6481,107
    196019·451,7061,233
    196119·501,6851,243

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland to what extent the salary of a state registered nurse is reduced when enrolled as a pupil midwife; if he is aware of the hardship this causes; and if he will consult the appropriate authorities, with a view to terminating this practice.

    The salary of a state registered nurse (or registered general nurse in Scotland) ranges from £525 to £656 per annum. The training allowance payable to a pupil midwife who is a slate registered nurse is £441 per annum. Questions of salaries and training allowances are for the Nurses and Midwives Whiteley Council.

    Scottish National Housing Company

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the Scottish National Housing Company Limited first built houses in the Rosyth area; what was the capital cost then; and if he will give an estimate of the aggregate amount received in rent since that time.

    The company built 1,602 houses between 1915 and 1919, and a further 270 at various times between 1922 and 1950, at a total capital cost of about £1,185,000. The aggregate amount received in rent for all the houses has been about £1,300,000. The company's income from rent has not been sufficient yearly to cover the outgoings on loan charges and maintenance and management charges.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultations the Scottish National Housing Company Limited had with their tenants in the Rosyth area before announcing their proposed rent increases.

    The company had no prior consultations with the tenants of the houses in Rosyth. Letters were issued to the tenants during the week ending 14th April explaining that it was proposed to increase the rents of the houses with effect from 28th May.

    Technical Co-Operation

    Basuto Students, United Kingdom

    asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation how many Basutos are receiving higher education in the United Kingdom or in the Commonwealth or foreign countries.

    Twenty-six Basutos are at present receiving higher education in the United Kingdom. I am consulting the High Commissioner as to the numbers studying in other countries of the Commonwealth and in foreign countries and I will let the hon. Member have this information as soon as I receive it.

    British Army

    Factories, Kirkby And Fazakerley

    asked the Secretary of State for War if he will state, for each year from 1941 to the date of closure of the factories, the total numbers employed at the Royal Filling Factory, Kirkby, and the Royal Ordnance Factory. Fazakerley, respectively.

    The following is the information:

    TOTAL NUMBERS EMPLOYED AT ROYAL ORDNANCE FACTORIES, FAZAKERLEY AND KIRKBY
    ROYAL ORDNANCE FACTORY, KIRKBY
    YearNumbers employed (non-industrials and industrials)
    1940 (December: start of production)806
    19415,958
    194220,135
    194315,250
    194410,004
    1945 (January)9,391
    Factory closed at the end of March, 1946

    ROYAL ORDNANCE FACTORY, FAZAKERLEY
    YearNumbers employed (non-industrials and industrials)
    1941 (February: start of production)533
    19427,887
    19439,663
    19446,727
    19455,586
    19463,143
    19472,249
    19482,223
    19492,934
    19502,603
    19511,333
    19521,774
    19531,901
    19541,809
    19551,746
    19561,760
    19571,984
    19581,907
    19591,820
    19601,713
    1961210
    Factory closed at the beginning of June, 1961.NOTE: Except where indicated figures are for the month of April.