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Volume 662: debated on Friday 6 July 1962

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday, 6th July, 1962

Royal Navy

Greenwich Hospital And Royal Hospital School, Holbrook

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty whether he will arrange for copies of the main documents transferring the estate and fortune of the late Mr. G. S. Reade to Greenwich Hospital and of the Bruntisfield Report on the Royal Hospital School, Holbrook, Suffolk, to be placed in the Library.

I am arranging for a copy of the will and codicil of the late G. S. Reade, Esq., to be made and for this to be placed in the Library. As to the Bruntisfield Report, it is not normal practice to publish the text of the reports of internal inquiries, but a summary of the main changes which have been made at the school as a result of this report is given in the illustrated brochure which was published to mark the occasion of the 250th anniversary of the school. Copies of the brochure have been available for some six weeks in the Library, as I undertook that they should be in the Answer to the hon. and gallant Member's Question on 16th May last.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will state the date on which the Admiralty decided to start the entry of officers' sons at the Navy's seamen's orphanage at Holbrook, Suffolk, instead of the orphans of poor seamen of the Royal Navy and Merchant Navy; what are the reasons for this change what is the number of officers' sons who have since been entered; and what is the rank of the senior officer whose son has been accepted.

Provision for the admission to the Royal Hospital School of sons of officers as well as of seamen was made in the current regulations for admission to the school which were introduced in 1949 (S.I. 1948 No. 2792 refers). This change was decided upon in the light of the recommendations of the Bruntisfield Committee and of the increasing proportion of officers of rating origin.The number of sons of officers admitted between 1st January, 1949, and the end of 1961 is 345; the number of sons of ratings admitted in the same period is 1,769. The rank of the senior officer whose son has been accepted is believed to be Captain, R.N.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will state the date on which the Admiralty decided to charge fees for secondary education, which previously had been free, at the Navy's seamen's orphanage at Holbrook, Suffolk; what are the reasons for this change in policy; and what are the maximum fees now charged.

The rapidly growing cost of maintaining the school caused us reluctantly to decide in 1956 to make regulations (S.I. 1956 No. 1894) providing for a fee to be charged. The regulations were applied to boys admitted on or after 1st January, 1957. The maximum fee now charge is £100 a year.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will state the number of sons of officers at the Navy's seamen's orphanage at Holbrook, Suffolk, for whom a certificate of poverty has been provided, and the number of other boys for whom a certificate declaring the boy to be a proper object for charity has been provided, as required by the regulations of the previous orphanage at Greenwich.

None. The current regulations make no provision for the issue of such certificates.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty, if he will state the number of boys at the Navy's seamen's orphanage at Holbrook, Suffolk, whose fathers were educated at the orphanage and who are Greenwich Hospital pensioners, respectively, and the number for whom no fees are charged.

I regret that the form in which records of admissions are maintained makes it impracticable to identify those parents who are old boys of the Royal Hospital School or Greenwich Hospital Pensioners. Of the 638 boys admitted after 31st December, 1956, and eligible to pay fees one pays no fee at all. Reduced fees are paid in 158 cases and the fees for 386 boys are paid in full either by Local Education Authorities or the Royal Navy.

Ministry Of Health

World Health Organisation

asked the Minister of Health what increased support, financial and otherwise, will be given to the work of the World Health Organisation during 1962, in view of Her Majesty's Government's decision to support the United Nations Development Decade; and what increase is planned for future years.

The United Kingdom's contribution will increase from £608,000 in 1962 to £763,300 in 1963 and we shall continue to bear our agreed share of the Organisation's expenditure.

Home Department

Road Vehicles (Dangerous Loads)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why it has taken several years to prepare a scheme for marking tank vehicles carrying dangerous substances in bulk; and when it is now intended to publish it.

The matter is one of some complexity and discussions with the trade have necessarily been protracted. A list of substances and a provisional scheme of marking have been prepared, and have been referred to the local authority associations for comment.

Pensions And National Insurance

Retirement Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what reply he has given to the resolution relating to an increase in retirement pensions sent to him recently by the National Old Age Pensioner' Association.

Employment

Wages

asked the Minister of Labour what total increases in weekly wage rates have been received, since Her Majesty's Government first proposed their policy of restriction on increases of incomes, by journalists, general cargo workers, transport workers, railway engine drivers, the more highly skilled men in the engineering industry, fitters and patternmakers.

The table below gives the required information:

OccupationIncrease in weekly wage rates since 25th July, 1961
Journalists (agreed London minimum of Newspaper Proprietors Association)50s. 0d.
General cargo workers (minimum rates of National Joint Council for Port Transport Industry)8s. 3d.
Road passenger transportworkers (drivers and conductors):—
London Transport Executive6s. 6d.
Municipal undertakings6s. 6d.
Company owned undertakings6s. 0d.
Railway engine drivers7s. 0d. or 8s. 0d. (according to grade and years of service)
Engineering:—
Highly skilled menNil*
Fitters
Patternmakers
*As from 9th July, 1962. these categories of workers will receive increases of 6s. per week.

asked the Minister of Labour, if he will set out in tabular form in the OFFICIAL REPORT, so that comparison may be made based upon official figures, the weekly wage rates expressed as a percentage, taking July, 1914, as 100, in 1920, 1930, 1960 and 1962 for engineering fitters, pattern-makers, bricklayers, railway engine drivers, passenger porters, hand compositors, journalists, and general cargo workers, respectively.

Yes. The following table gives the information required:

Industry and occupationWeekly Rates of Wages expressed as percentage of level at July, 1914=100
31st Dec., 192031st Dec, 193031st Dec., 19604th July. 1962
Engineering
Average of recognised time rate in 16 principal centres in the United Kingdom
Fitters and Turners230152501505*
Patternmakers224150520520*
Building
Average of recognised rates in 39 large towns in the United Kingdom
Bricklayers248174539579
Railway service†
Engine drivers excluding London (according to year and grade‡)217 to 262178 to 222543 to 642560 to 662
Passenger porters (grade 2) in industrial areas excluding London350219877903
Printing and bookbinding
Average of recognised rates in 26 large towns in the United Kingdom
Hand compositors261207643717
Newspaper publishing
Journalists (agreed London minimum of Newspaper Proprietors Association)Not possible to give figures as there is no information about rates in July, 1914
Dock labour
Average of recognised minimum rates in10 large ports in the United Kingdom
General cargo workers§266201542567
* The increase of 6s. per week operative from 9th July1962 will increase these percentages to 519 and 534 respectively.
†Whereas the 1914 rates are the estimated approximate averages of the rates actually paid those for subsequent dates are the agreed standard rates.
‡Extra payments made when performing over a certain mileage per day are excluded
§Based on daily and not weekly rates.

International Labour Organisation

asked the Minister of Labour what increased support, financial and otherwise, will be given to the work of the International Labour Organisation during 1962, in view of Her Majesty's Government's decision to support the United Nations Development Decade; and what increase is planned for future years.

Measures related to the United Nations Development Decade will generally be undertaken in the International Labour Organisation through its operational programmes. Most of these are financed from United Nations Funds but increasing provision is also being made through the regular budget of the Organisation. The budgetary provision for 1963 for operational work is $1,279,000 compared with $656,000 for 1962; of these sums the United Kingdom's share of contributions is about 9½ per cent.

School Leavers

asked the Minister of Labour how many boys and girls, respectively, who left school at Easter this year were registered with his Department; and how many were unemployed six weeks after leaving school

90,317 boys and 85,636 girls were known by Youth Employment Officers to have left school at Easter this year. 1,788 boys (or 2 per cent.) and 824 girls (or 1 per cent.) were registered as unemployed on 8th June,

Local Government

Unadopted Roads (Exchequer Loans)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what is the total amount of Exchequer loans which have been made for improvements to unadopted roads carried out by local authorities.

Complete information is not available, but loan sanctions in respect of the making up of private streets in England and Wales in the last five financial years and the first quarter of this financial year total £11,618,443.

Local Government Employees (Pensions)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT particu-

TABLE A.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUPERANNUATION SCHEME AND NATIONAL INSURANCE SCHEMES
Weekly contributions payable by employees (men)
Weekly earnings on which contributions payableEmployees participating in graduated schemeIf employees were contracted out of graduated scheme
Local Government superannuationNational insuranceTotalLocal Government superannuationNational Insurance flat-rate (With N.H.S. contribution)Total
Flat-rate (With N.H.S. contribution)Graduated
(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)
£s.d.s.d.s.d.£s.d.s.d.s.d.£s.d.
108010711196810122110
1189107110112910122120
12971072812101010122130
13105107361461110122140
Note:
(a) Local government superannuation contributions in columns 2 and 6 are based on a contribution rate of 5 per cent, which is the appropriate rate for manual workers. For employees in the administrative, professional, clerical, etc. grades the rate is 6 per cent, but the relation between the figures in columns 5 and 8 is unaffected if the higher percentage is used.
(b) Column 2 takes account of the fact that the 5 per cent, contribution to the local government scheme is reduced to 4 per cent, where an employee is in both the flat-rate and graduated parts of the National Insurance scheme; column 6 takes account of the fact that for an employee in the flat-rate part of the scheme alone the contribution to the local government scheme is reduced by 1s. 2d. a week.
(c) Special arrangements for certain employees in post on 5th July, 1948, when the National Insurance Act. 1946, came into full operation have been ignored in columns 2 and 6.

lars of the total contributions payable by employees of local government earning £10, £1 1, £12, and £13 a week, respectively, who are participating in the National Insurance graduated superannuation scheme, and at the same time paying local government superannuation as compared with the amount employees of similar income pay in cases where they are contracted out of the National Insurance graduated superannuation scheme.

The figures for men and women employees in local government are given in Tables A and B, respectively. Except for women earning £13 a week, employees with the weekly earnings to which the question refers participate in the graduated scheme. For these latter employees, columns 6 to 8 of the tables show the contributions which they would make if they were contracted out. Conversely columns 2 to 5 of Table B show the contributions which women earning £13 a week would make if participating in the graduated scheme.

TABLE B.
LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUPERANNUATION SCHEME AND NATIONAL INSURANCE SCHEMES

Weekly contribution payable by employees (women)

Weekly earnings on which contributions payableEmployees participating in graduated schemeIf employees were contracted out of graduated scheme
Local Government superannuationNational insuranceTotalLocal Government superannuationNational Insurance flat-rate (With N.H.S. contribution)Total
Flat-rate (With N.H.S. contribution)Graduated
(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)
£s.d.s.d.s.d.£s.d.s.d.s.d.£s.d.
108088111778996183
1189881101939996193
12978828101110996103
If employees participated in graduated scheme.Employees contracted out of graduated scheme.
13105883612711996113
Notes:
(a) Local government superannuation contributions in columns 2 and 6 are based on a contribution rate of 5 per cent which is the appropriate rate for manual workers. For employees in the administrative, professional, clerical, etc., grades the rate is 6 per cent but the relation between the figures in columns 5 and 8 is unaffected if the higher percentage is used.
(b) Column 2 takes account of the fact that the 5 per cent contribution to the local government scheme is reduced to 4 per cent where an employee is in both the flat-rate and graduated parts of the National Insurance scheme; column 6 takes account of the fact that for an employee in the flat-rate part of the scheme alone the contribution to the local government scheme is reduced by 1s. 3d. a week.
(c) Special arrangements for certain employees in post on 5th July, 1948, when the National Insurance Act, 1946, came into full operation have been ignored in columns 2 and 6.

Education

Unesco

asked the Minister of Education what increased support, financial and otherwise, will be given to the work of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation during 1962, in view of Her Majesty's Government's decision to support the United Nations Development Decade; and what increase is planned for future years.

U.N.E.S.C.O.'s programme for 1961–62 was fixed at the last U.N.E.S.C.O. General Conference, held in 1960, together with the related financial contributions of the member states of the Organisation. The United Kingdom contribution for that period has therefore not been affected by the proposals for the United Nations Development Decade. Our contribution was in fact more than 21 per cent. over the figure for the previous budgetary period of 1959–60. The proposed programme and budget for the years 1963 and 1964 are at present being examined.