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Volume 671: debated on Monday 11 February 1963

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 11th February, 1963

European Economic Community

1.

asked the Lord Privy Seal to what extent he has been able to safeguard Indian interests in the negotiations at Brussels.

The provisional arrangements which we reached in the negotiations were set out fully in my reports on the Brussels meetings of 1st to 5th August and 25th to 27th October. In addition, the level of the common external tariff on a small number of items of particular interest to India was still under discussion when the negotiations were broken off.

42.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the number of staff of his Department who have been engaged in the negotiations to enter the Common Market?

The number of senior members of the Foreign Service based in Brussels to act as advisers for the purpose of the negotiations was nine. There were also supporting staff including clerks, typists and messengers to the number of 31.

Overseas Aid

25.

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will circulate to British diplomatic posts in developing countries details of the goods that will absorb surplus capacity in areas of high unemployment, and which may be made available under our overseas aid policies.

Her Majesty's representatives in a number of developing countries have already been consulted about the possible applications of the scheme announced in the House by my right hon. Friend on 17th December.

High Commission Territories And Republic Of South Africa

23.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what discussions are taking place with the Republic of South Africa regarding control of the movement of persons between the Republic and the High Commission Territories; and what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government in this respect.

The South African Government informed us last April of their wish to make certain adjustments affecting in particular the entry into the Republic of Africans from the Territories and their employment in the Republic. Towards the end of last year they submitted detailed proposals, which are still under discussion with our Embassy. We for our part have no wish to restrict travel between the Territories and the Republic.

Algeria (Refugees)

26.

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he is aware of the fact that a requirement of 6,500,000 dollars for relief in Algeria was still not met on 25th January, 1963; and if he will take steps to speed up further assistance to people suffering in Algeria.

As to the first part of this Question, the shortfall was announced as $1 million. As to the second part, I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answers given to Questions on this subject on 29th November and 28th January.

Cuba (British Ships)

34.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what recent conversations he has had with the United States Government concerning the restrictions they propose to place on British ships carrying goods to Cuba; and whether he will make a statement.

During the past six months we have had several discussions with the United States Government about the question of British ships carrying goods to Cuba. The United States Government announced on 6th February that the shipment of United States Government financed cargoes from the United States on vessels that had called at a Cuban port since 1st January, 1963, would be prohibited. We have made clear throughout that Her Majesty's Government do not approve of any restriction on freedom of navigation in times of peace.

Western European Union

35.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what is being done to develop the economic aims of Western European Union.

Her Majesty's Government are giving careful consideration to the steps necessary to promote European cooperation in the political and economic fields since the break-up of the Brussels negotiations. I hope that the Western European Union will be able to play its part.

Germany (Armed Forces)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what are the conditions under which West German armed forces assigned to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation can be withdrawn from North Atlantic Treaty Organisation command and be placed under national command.

The Resolution to implement Section IV of the Final Act of the London Conference, adopted by the North Atlantic Council on 22nd October, 1954, and forming part of the Paris Agreements, provides that all forces of member nations stationed in the area of Allied Command, Europe, shall be placed under North Atlantic Treaty Organisation command with the exceptions of forces intended for the defence of overseas territories and other forces which the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation recognises as suitable to remain under national command.

Katanga

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will make a further statement on the third United Nations offensive in Katanga, taking into account the Katanga Government's version of the outbreak of hostilities as expressed in its communiqués.

I have nothing to add to the reply by my hon. Friend the Minister of State on 28th January to my hon. Friends the Members for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) and Chigwell (Mr. Biggs-Davison).

asked the Lord Privy Seal what impartial investigation has been made, or is contemplated, into the conduct of Ethiopian and other United Nations troops during their three offensives against Katanga, and in particular into recent cases of murder, rape and other offences against non-combatant life and civilian property; what reparation has been made in any case and disciplinary or judicial action taken; and whether he will move within the United Nations Organisation for an inquiry by some disinterested body such as the International Red Cross or the International Commission of Jurists.

United Nations (Military Action)

asked the Lord Privy Seal under which provision of the United Nations Charter that organisation claims the right to use military action where there is no evidence of direct aggression.

The United Nations Charter provides not only for action to meet direct aggression, but also for the maintenance of international peace and security. For example, under Article 42, the Security Council is expressly authorised to take such action by air, sea or land forces as may be necessary to maintain or restore international peace and security.

British-Soviet Cultural Convention

asked the Lord Privy Seal to what extent the new British-Soviet Cultural Convention represents an advance towards freedom of communication between the British and Soviet people.

The new Agreement facilitates exchanges in various fields and to that extent makes communication easier, but Her Majesty's Government would like to see a much more substantial advance towards freedom of communication.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Glanllyn Estate, Merioneth

43.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list by years the total value of the capital improvements carried out on Glanllyn Estate since his Department was responsible for it; and at what valuation the estate was taken over by the Government.

The following table gives the information required:

Glanllyn Estate, Merioneth
Valuation
Valuation of Estate against Death Duties due to Treasury and written off against part payment thereof (1948)£149,306
Opening valuation (1948) of that part of the Estate now under the management of the Welsh Agricultural Land Sub-Commission£132,000
Capital Expenditure in that part of Estate under management of W.A.L.S.C.
(

Note: These figures contain some inseparable element of maintenance)

Financial Year

£
1948–492,458
1949–5010,121
1950–5118,398
1951–5212,126
1952–5313,085
1953–5419,849
1954–5527,602
1955–5620,931
1956–5720,236
1957–5817,793
1958–5918,011
1959–6036,964
1960–6123,773
1961–6222,151
1962 (April to December)3,000 (approx.)
£266,500 (approx.)

Grants claimed or to be claimed against capital works up to and including 196276,400 (approx.)
Net amount spent on capital improvements190,100 (approx.)

Wheat

44.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how the quantity of unmilled French wheat imported into Great Britain in 1962 compares with the quantity imported in 1961; and how the average price of the unmilled French wheat imported into Great Britain in 1962 compares with the French target price for wheat.

During the calendar year 1962 United Kingdom imports of French wheat amounted to 162,000 tons: but of this only 14,000 tons have been imported since September last when our large domestic crap began to be marketed in volume. The total figure for 1961 was 96,000 tons. The average c.i.f. price of the French wheat imported in 1962 was £24 4s. a ton. The French basic target price was about £35 5s. a ton at the start of the current season and had risen to about £36 9s. in December.

45.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much British-produced wheat was exported from Great Britain in 1962; and how the average price at which this wheat was exported compared with the average price paid for wheat imported into Great Britain in 1962.

In 1962 some 91 thousand tons of wheat which included a considerable quantity of seed were exported from the United Kingdom at an average f.o.b. price of £28 12s. a ton. The average c.i.f. price of all United Kingdom imports in 1962 was £26 10s. a ton.

Fishing Limits

47.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will now initiate discussions on a European fishing limits agreement, in view of the collapse of the Common Market negotiations.

The fishery limits problem is under constant review, but I doubt whether such an initiative on our part would be opportune at the moment.

Agricultural Support

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the latest estimates he has made of the agricultural subsidies for the United Kingdom for 1962–63, together with comparable figures for the previous years.

Following are particulars of the latest estimates of the cost of agricultural support in the financial year 1962–63 for which provisions have been made in the Civil Estimates, Class V, Votes 3, 4, 5 and 6, as amended by the Supplementary Estimates, available

I.—FARMING GRANTS AND SUBSIDIES
£ million
1962–631961–62
1.General Fertilisers Subsidy35·033·0
2.Lime Subsidy9·88·8
3.Grants for Ploughing up Grassland11·711·5
4.Field Drainage and Water Supply Grants3·83·5
5.Grants for Improvement of Livestock Rearing Land1·61·6
6.Marginal Production Assistance Grants0·80·8
7.Bonus Payments under the Tuberculosis (Attested Herds) Scheme5·27·2
8.Calf Subsidy18·317·8
9.Hill Sheep and Hill Cattle6·85·8
10.Silo Subsidies0·60·8
11.Grants for Farm Improvements10·89·2
12.Grants to Rabbit Clearance Societies0·30·3
13.Grants to Small Farmers7·77·1
14.Other Grants0·101
TOTAL I112·5107·5
II.—IMPLEMENTATION OF AGRICULTURAL PRICE GUARANTEES
£ million
1962–631961–62
(1)Cereals:—
Wheat and Rye16·322·0
Barley36·333·2
Oats and mixed corn11218·1
63·873·3
(2)Eggs24·316·2
(3)Fatstock:
Cattle30·046·4
Sheep19·730·7
Pigs57·336·2
107·0113·3
(4)Milk (excluding school and welfare milk)*11·8
(5)Wool3·32·9
(6)Potatoes0·48·0
TOTAL II198·8225·5
III.—OTHER SERVICES
£ million
1962–631961–62
Payment to the Exchequer of Northern Ireland1·10·9
TOTALS I, II and III312·4333·9
IV.—ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES
£ million
1962–631961–62
Applicable to I and II only8·98·7
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT321·3342·6
Details of the original estimates of the cost of agricultural support were included in Table V of the Memorandum by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury on the Estimates 1962–63 (H.C. 142).

* Following the 1962 Annual Review the retail price of milk was arranged so that neither a deficiency nor a surplus will arise, taking one year with another, from the implementation of the price guarantee.

today, with the latest comparable figures for the financial year 1961–62.

Trawlers (Building Grants)

48.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will review the offer of subsidies for trawlers built abroad, in view of the growing unemployment position in British shipyards.

No. To restore the former restriction on grants to boats built in the United Kingdom would be inconsistent with our international obligations. In any case no one has yet applied to have a vessel built abroad.

Livestock (Protection)

49.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what advice he has tendered to farmers concerning the protection of livestock during the severe winter weather.

Farmers do not need general advice on how to farm in bad weather. But the Ministry's local officers, including the advisory services, have, of course, been in constant touch with county branches of the N.F.U. and with individual farmers, to advise and help them on any specific problems concerning livestock.

Ministry Of Aviation

Passenger Service, Leeds-Bradford Airport And Amsterdam

50.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will uphold the appeal made to him against the recent decision of the licensing authority not to allow an air passenger service between the Leeds-Bradford Airport and Amsterdam.

Pensions And National Insurance

Old-Age Pensions

53.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what steps he proposes to take to make old-age pensions available to those who were excluded from the National Insurance scheme on the grounds of age.

56.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if he will take steps to make old-age pensions available to those who were excluded from the present State scheme at its inception because they were too old; how many people would be affected; and what the cost would be.

As has been explained to the House on previous occasions, I have no means of telling how many of the people over pensionable age without title to retirement pension had no opportunity of becoming insured either as voluntary contributors under the old scheme or as late-age entrants under the present National Insurance Scheme. There are in all some 700,000 people who for a variety of reasons have not satisfied the contribution conditions for retirement pensions, which are, of course, an essential part of the insurance basis of the scheme. It is estimated that the immediate cost of paying pensions to this group at the standard rates in the National Insurance Bill now before Parliament would be of the order of £115 million a year. I have no proposals to make on this matter.

Ministry Of Health

Census Returns (Abertillery, Nantyglo And Blaina)

60.

asked the Minister of Health what information he has, from the 1951 and 1961 census returns, of the number of workers in the Nantyglo, Blaina, Abertillery and Newbridge districts, respectively, who travel outside these districts to their place of employment; and if he will make a statement.

Following are the figures:

1951 Census
Resident in the urban district but working outside it
Abertillery Urban District3150
Nantyglo and Blaina Urban District2645
Separate figures are not available for the parish of Newbridge. The information from the 1961 census is not yet available.

Hearing Aids

63.

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the dissatisfaction caused to Health Service patients by the provision of types of hearing aid now obsolete; and what would be the additional cost of providing all deaf persons with the lighter and less obtrusive models now available.

Replacement of all valve aids by transistor aids is in progress and proceeding as fast as production and fitting allow.

Public Health Inspectors

66.

asked the Minister of Health if he will seek to amend the Health Acts in such a way as to give himself the power to recruit public health inspectors, in view of the difficulties now being experienced by local health authorities in obtaining suitably qualified men.

Vaccination (International Certificate)

67.

asked the Minister of Health if he will take steps to enforce more strongly the requirement for the production of an international certificate of vaccination by all immigrants from areas where vaccination is not compulsory.

I am proposing, in accordance with a recommendation of the Public Health Committee of the Council of Europe, to make these certificates compulsory for all travellers from endemic and local infected smallpox areas.

Smallpox Vaccination

68.

asked the Minister of Health if he will state the proportion

Population: (June, 1950) 43,830,000 (June, 1961) 46,166,000
1950–511961–62
£ millionPer cent.£ millionPer cent.
Total cost of National Health Service412100831100
Transferred from National Insurance Fund368·8
Receipts from National Health Service Contributions13015·7
Payments by patients41·1475·7

Hospitals

Building Work, North-East And Merseyside

61.

asked the Minister of Health whether additional resources are being made available to regional hospital boards for the undertaking of small building schemes in areas where there is relatively high unemployment in the building and contracting industry.

of the population in the United Kingdom who have had smallpox vaccination within the last seven years.

Nurses (Midwifery Training)

asked the Minister of Health what reduction of pay is imposed on a State registered nurse who agrees to undergo midwifery training.

In accordance with Whitley Council agreements, the training allowance for a pupil midwife who is a State registered nurse is £474 per annum, compared with £328–£361 per annum for one who is not and with the rate of pay of £564–£705 per annum for a State registered staff nurse.

National Health Service (Cost)

asked the Minister of Health what was the total cost of the National Health Service in 1950 and in the latest convenient year; what proportion of this cost was paid by the consumer in insurance contributions and by charges, respectively; and how many patients were looked after by the National Health Service in each of the two years.

Additional work worth just over £480,000 has been authorised in the North-East and on Merseyside.

New Hospital, Lindley

asked the Minister of Health when the construction of the new hospital at Lindley, Huddersfield, will be completed; and when it will be available for use in whole or in part.

Mental Hospitals

asked the Minister of Health whether it is still his policy to eliminate large mental hospitals; and to what extent the payment of matrons, chief male nurses, hospital secretaries and other hospital officers according to number of beds will affect his project.

Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Gateshead

asked the Minister of Health, in view of the heavy unemployment in Gateshead, if he will consider advancing the date for the commencement of the first phase of the diagnostic centre at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. Gateshead.

No. At least two years preparatory work is still required before this scheme can start.

Employment

Newcastle-Under-Lyme

69.

asked the Minister of Labour what is the latest figure of unemployment in Newcastle-under-Lyme; what proportion of the working population this represents; and how it compares

UNEMPLOYMENT AT 14TH JANUARY, 1963
MenWomenSchool LeaversRegistered Disabled
Pontyclun1742024
Tonyrefail3965349
Pontypridd Youth Employment Office83

Liverpool

asked the Minister of Labour what further administrative steps he will take to make available in Liverpool the skilled labour required in the future for incoming industries.

The employment exchanges will make every effort to meet future demands for skilled labour in Liverpool arising from incoming industries. The Government Training Centre at Aintree, Liverpool, provides training in a number of skilled trades including engineering which should be useful for the new industries.

with the number of unemployed on the same date last year.

1,444, or 5·1 per cent. of the insured employees on 14th January, 1963, compared with 751 on 15th January. 1962.

Ford's, Dagenham

70.

asked the Minister of Labour what progress has been made in his efforts to avoid a strike at Ford's, Dagenham.

I have invited representatives of the company and of the trade unions to meet officials of my Department again separately tomorrow or Wednesday, whichever is convenient, to see whether, in the existing situation, there is anything I can do which would help to avoid a strike.

Pontyclun And Tonyrefail

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give an analysis of the unemployment figures for the Pontyclun and Tonyrefail employment exchanges, extracting separately those for men, women, school leavers and registered disabled, respectively.

Figures of unemployed school leavers are available only for the Pontypridd Youth Employment Office area, in which Pontyclun and Tonyrefail are situated. Following is the information available:

asked the Minister of Labour what percentage of boy school leavers in Liverpool in 1961 and 1962 obtained employment leading to skilled occupations; and how this figure compared with the national average.

25·6 per cent. in 1961 and 21·9 per cent. in 1962. The figures for Great Britain were 37·9 per cent. in 1961 and 36·2 per cent. in 1962.

School Leavers, Gateshead

asked the Minister of Labour what is the estimated number of school leavers in Gateshead at the next leaving date; and, in view of the 291 boys and 97 girls unemployed at 14th January, 1963, what he estimates the prospects are for these young people to obtain employment.

About 220 boys and 190 girls are expected to leave school at Easter. Opportunities are better for girls than for boys, but I am hopeful that the measures the Government have taken to expand the economy will increase opportunities for workers generally in the South-West Tyne area.

Government Training Centres (Allowances)

asked the Minister of Labour what retraining grants or allowances are available to assist skilled industrial workers bearing family or domestic responsibilities during the period of their retraining course.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member for Swindon (Mr. F. Noel-Baker) on 7th February.

Science

Scientists (International Exchanges)

71.

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science what steps he is taking to secure improvement in the arrangements for the international exchange of scientists, in view of the value of such arrangements as recommended by the Advisory Council on Scientific Policy in Command Paper No. 1920.

My noble Friend has noted the view expressed by the Advisory Council in paragraph 16 of its Report for 1961–62, and has arranged for this subject to be further considered in consultation with the various authorities concerned.

Ministry Of Defence Aircraft

Carrier Programme

72.

asked the Minister of Defence whether he will give an undertaking that the financing of Polaris submarines will not result in the cancellation of the next aircraft carrier programme, in view of the fact that no aircraft carrier in the fleet has a post-war hull.

Whatever decision is taken on the carrier programme will be taken upon its merits and not related to what any one Service is spending in some other rôle.

White Paper

asked the Minister of Defence what form this year's Defence White Paper will take; and when it will be published.

This year's Defence White Paper will incorporate the Memoranda which normally accompany the Service Estimates. It is not yet possible to give a precise date for publication.

Local Government

Water Supplies (Radioactivity)

73.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs, what were the results of tests for radioactivity in the water supply which were carried out in Leeds, Sheffield and Manchester, respectively.

The Government's monitoring programme includes tests of water in reservoirs supplying Leeds and Manchester but not Sheffield. Results are published annually and those for 1962 will appear in a few months.

Water (Access To Gathering Grounds)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he has now consulted the Central Advisory Water Committee on the desirability of further investigation of the problem of access to gathering grounds; and what advice he has received.

Yes; the Committee thought that the problem merited further investigation and it is likely to embark on this later in the year.

Private Roads

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what restrictions, financial and otherwise, are placed on local authorities wishing to adopt private roads in their area.

Local authorities are free to proceed without reference to my right hon. Friend. If they wish to borrow money for this purpose, there is normally no question at present of his refusing consent.

Canals (Piping Or Removal)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what was the highest percentage grant given during the last three years for the removal or piping of a canal; and what local authority was involved.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to proposals relating to derelict land put to my right hon. Friend under the Local Employment Act 1960. No such proposal has involved the piping or removal of a canal.

Aden

Federation Of South Arabia

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether, in regard to the accession of Aden to the Federation of South Arabia, a secession clause is to be written into the Federal Constitution; or whether the enlarged Federation is to be regarded as viable and inviolate against unilateral secession.

This matter is dealt with in Article X of the Treaty of Accession signed on 16th January, the text of which was presented in draft to Parliament in Command Paper 1814.

National Finance

Education (Local Authority Expenditure)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost to the Exchequer if the total burden of education were transferred from local education authorities to the Exchequer; and what increase would be necessary in the standard rate of Income Tax to cover this cost.

Total local authority expenditure on education is about £950 million—equal to about half-a-crown on the standard rate of Income Tax (assuming proportionate increases in the reduced rates). But over 60 per cent. of general grant expenditure is already financed by the Exchequer.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost to the Exchequer if the total cost of teachers' salaries were transferred from local education authorities to the Exchequer; and what increase would be necessary in the standard rate of Income Tax to cover this cost.

Total local authority expenditure on teachers' salaries is about £480 million—equal to over 1s. 3d. on the standard rate of Income Tax (assuming proportionate increases in the reduced rates). But of course roughly 60 per cent. of general grant expenditure is already financed by the Exchequer.

Fuel Oil And Petrol (Taxes)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will reduce the taxes on fuel oil and petrol for use in passenger and freight transport vehicles so as to assist in making industry more competitive.

Purchase Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will reduce the Purchase Tax on musical instruments.

Post Office

Sub-Offices, London, Se9

asked the Postmaster-General what is the number of old-age pensioners drawing their pensions at the sub-post offices at Newmarket Green, London, S.E.9, and Mottingham Village, London, S.E.9, respectively.

asked the Postmaster-General what is the average weekly total of postage stamps sold at the sub-post offices at Newmarket Green, London, S.E.9, arid Mottingharn Village, London, S.E.9, respectively.

Education

Gce Results, Coventry

asked the Minister of Education if he will set out in a comparative table the examination results for the General Certificate of Education at ordinary level of the pupils from each of the comprehensive schools and grammar schools in Coventry, stating the number of students taking the examination from each school, the total number of subject taken and the number of satisfactory papers.

My Department's survey each year of the General Certificate of Education achievements of pupils leaving school in that year is based on a 10 per cent. national sample. The information obtained cannot properly be used to analyse or compare the achievements of individual schools.

Pupils (Maintained Direct Grant And Independent Schools)

asked the Minister of Education how many children between five and 15 years of age were being educated in State schools, and how many privately, in 1950 and in the latest convenient year, respectively; and what was

1950–511961–62
Meals (Maintained Schools)Milk (Maintained and non-maintained Schools)Meals (Maintained Schools)Milk (Maintained and non-maintained Schools)
1.Number of children taking school meals and school milk on a day in October, 1950 and 19612,696,2284,638,0523,560,1155,927,430
2.Net expenditure of Local Education Authorities:
Running cost£20,981,997*£6,860,650£42,533,219£11,805,148
Capital expenditure£1,765,128£7,310,223
3.Number of children paying for meals†2,399,7003,321,646
4.Normal charge per dinner6d.1s.
5.Charge as proportion of running cost per dinner42 per cent.49 per cent.
* The cost of milk in this year was met by Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.
† School milk is provided free of charge to children.

the total cost of public education in each of the two years.

The information is as follows:

1949–501961–62
Pupils aged 5–15 (in (thousands):
Maintained schools5,339·36,381·5
Direct grant schools69·682·6
Independent schools422·8(a)382·8
5,831·76,846·9
Public Educational Expenditure (b)£296·7m.£928·0m.
NOTES:(

a) Partly estimated.

( b) Excludes universities, certain further education establishments maintained by other Government Departments, teachers superannuation, museums.

School Meals And Milk

asked the Minister of Education how many children were taking school meals and school milk, respectively, in 1950 and in the latest convenient year; what was the cost of each service in each year; how many children in each year were paying for those meals; and what proportion of the cost they were paying.

Scotland

Local Government (Rateborne Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total value of local government fully rate-borne expenditure approved during the last complete financial year; and what was the nature of the services involved.

Relevant local expenditure for Exchequer equalisation grant purposes in 1961–62 is estimated at £108 million, and the total of Exchequer equalisation and Exchequer transitional grants for that year at £19 million. Fully rateborne expenditure is therefore estimated at £89 million. This covers all services for which local authorities are entitled to rate.

Hospitals, Western Region (Maternity Beds)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the numbers of maternity beds deficient in the Western Regional Hospital Board's area at present, on the basis of the Montgomery Report.

On the latest available information (as at 30th September, 1962) the deficiency is calculated at 252 beds; 160 additional beds will become available during this year.

Roads

Hertfordshire

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give details and dates of the initiation of all road schemes costing over £100,000 in the County of Hertfordshire in the five-year trunk road programme.

As the Answer is lengthy and involves considerable detail I will write to my noble Friend.

Road Schemes (Flyovers And Underpasses)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will state the number of road improvement schemes involving the construction of flyovers and junctions on roads in England and Wales, other than in connection with motorway construction, for each of the years 1959, 1960, 1961, and 1962, which have been either started or completed.

The numbers of trunk roads and classified road schemes started or completed in the years stated and involving the construction of a flyover or underpass were:

SCHEMES COMPLETED DURING PERIOD (some of them started before 1959)
1959196019611962
3576
SCHEMES STARTED BUT NOT COMPLETED DURING PERIOD
1959196019611962
314

British Army

Units (Establishments)

asked the Secretary of State for War if he will state the strength of the following units and sub-units of the services on 1st January, 1963, in relation to their peace establishment expressed in the same manner as was done in answer to a similar Written Question on 31st January, 1963, namely, Royal Army Medical Corps, Corps of Military Police, Royal Army Pay Corps, Military Provost Staff Corps, Royal Army Dental Corps, Royal Army Service Corps, Royal Army Ordnance Corps, Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, Royal Pioneer Corps, Royal Army Veterinary Corps and Army Catering Corps.

I regret that a comparison for the services on the same basis as I gave for the "teeth" arms in my Answer on 31st January, 1963, is not practicable, since generally speaking the services are organised in very small units and sub-units. The following statement shows the position of the services in relation to their current other rank manpower ceilings.

On 1st January, 1963, the Royal Army Ordnance Corps, Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, Royal Army Pay Corps, Royal Army Veterinary Corps and Military Provost Staff Corps were up to strength. The total numerical shortages of men for the other services were as follows:

Royal Army Service Corps308
Royal Army Medical Corps512
Royal Military Police175
Royal Army Dental Corps53
Royal Pioneer Corps30
Army Catering Corps666

Most of these deficiencies will be made good in the next few months.