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Volume 671: debated on Wednesday 13 February 1963

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 13th February, 1963

British Army

Pensions (Widows)

2.

asked the Secretary of State for War how much pension a colonel's widow, with two children, who lost her husband on 3rd November 1958, gets for herself and her two children; and how much she would receive if he had died the next day, assuming in both cases that the officer retired in 1958 with maximum service and that the widow is now 55 years of age.

Baor (Signals Equipment)

3.

asked the Secretary of State for War when the British Army of the Rhine may expect to receive its new signals equipment.

The British Army of the Rhine has been substantially equipped with the new range of field radio.

Scotland

Borstal Institution, "Noranside"

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total estimated cost of the conversion of "Noranside" to its new use; and when the first delinquents will be accommodated there.

£183,000. I expect that the borstal institution will be opened in July next with 40 places and that an extension, bringing the number to 80, will be completed towards the end of next year.

Trawler Owners (Consultations)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultation his Department has had recently with Scottish trawler owners; and what have been the results.

Consultations have taken place in recent months on a variety of subjects, including subsidies, the moratorium on loan repayments to the White Fish Authority, the Authority's levy and fishery limits at Faroe. The views expressed by the Scottish trawler owners on these matters are receiving careful consideration.

Derelict Sites (Clearance)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applications have been received from local authorities to proceed under the Local Employment Act, 1960, with the clearing up of derelict sites; how many have been authorised; and what has been the total cost of the works done.

Twenty-four applications have been submitted, of which 15 have been approved for work worth an estimated total of £250,000. Six applications are still under consideration.

Hill Cow Subsidy

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether a farmer receives a hill cow subsidy when he has taken the animal off the hill due to the recent hard weather.

I have a certain discretion to deal with such circumstances. Although the Hill Cattle (Scotland) Scheme, 1957, only allows the off-wintering of cows from "hill farming land", the removal of animals from other eligible land as an emergency measure would not prevent payment of subsidy. I should, of course, have to be satisfied that the period during which the cows were not on eligible land was no longer than was necessary.

Industrial Expansion, North-East

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is now his long-term policy for encouraging more industrial expansion in the North-East of Scotland, and thereby terminating emigration from the area as well as unemployment; and if he will make a statement.

Industrial development as such is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend, the President of the Board of Trade, who assures me that he will do all he can as opportunity offers to encourage industrial expansion in this development district.

For my part I will have regard to the employment and population problems of the area in considering proposals for the development of services for which I am directly or indirectly responsible.

Local Authority Houses (Subsidies)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which local authorities in Scotland had submitted to him before 1st November, 1961, proposals for the provision of new houses which were not approved until after that date; what is the number of new houses involved in each case; whether these proposals were regarded as proposals for the purposes of the Housing (Scotland) Act 1962; and to what extent the amount of Exchequer subsidy was affected in each case.

Tenders for the erection of 1,345 houses by 20 local authorities in Scotland, as shown in the table below, were submitted before 1st November, 1962, and not approved until after that date. These houses attracted subsidy under the Housing and Town Development (Scotland) Act, 1957. Tentative suggestions, or plans at various stages of evolution, for housing schemes from a considerable number of other authorities were also before me at that date. On the subsequent receipt of tenders these qualify for subsidy under the Housing (Scotland) Act, 1962, which may be at a higher or a lower rate than that payable under the 1957 Act, but full particulars cannot be compiled without detailed scrutiny of a large number of files.

AuthorityNo. of Houses
Burghs
Ardrossan35
Clydebank46
Dumfries72
Dundee78
Hamilton35
Johnstone13
Kilsyth17
Kirkcaldy10
Kirkwall4
Moffat4
Motherwell109
Stevenston25
Stirling257
Counties
Argyll20
Ayr2
Clackmannan9
Dumfries24
Dunbarton457
Kirkcudbright16
Stirling112

Technical Colleges

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the location of existing technical colleges; and where such colleges are under construction or planned.

As a number of detailed lists are involved, I am sending them to my hon. Friend.

Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give an estimate for 1963–64 of the percentages of local rates which will be paid by domestic, commercial and industrial ratepayers, respectively.

It is not possible for me to give an estimate for 1963–64, but I have no reason to expect the position to be substantially different from 1962–63, where estimates of the total rateable values in the ordinary valuation rolls, after taking into account the results of appeals so far as already known, point to the rate burden being shared by the different classes of property approximately as follows:

Per cent.
Domestic subjects53
Commercial subjects19
Industrial subjects13
Miscellaneous15

Central Redevelopment Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what is the number of schemes for central redevelopment approved since 1951 to the latest convenient date; and what is the number of applications at present under consideration by him;(2) if he will publish a list of those towns for which central redevelopment schemes have been approved, together with the number of schemes so approved for each town, and a further list showing those towns for which schemes have been submitted but not yet approved, together with the number of schemes submitted and not yet approved for each town.

Not all schemes of central redevelopment require my consent, but comprehensive development proposals submitted as part of, or amendments to, development plans with the object of renewing areas of bad layout and obsolete development do. Ninety-five such schemes have been approved, all since 1951; 13 more are under consideration. Details of these are as follows:

TownNumber approvedNumber under consideration
Alexandria1
Alloa5
Alva1
Arbroath2
Auchtermuchty2
Barrhead1
Burntisland2
Cambuslang4
Ceres1
Clackmannan1
Clydebank1
Coalsnaughton1
Coatbridge1
Cowdenbeath2
Culross1
Cupar1
Dalkeith1
Dumfries3
Dundee71
Edinburgh41
Falkirk1
Falkland1
Glasgow3*1
Grangemouth1
Greenock31
Haddington2
Hamilton2
Inverkeithing1
Kennoway2
Kilmarnock1
Kilsyth1
Kilwinning1
Kincardine1
Kinghorn2
Kirkcaldy11
Kirkwall4
Leven3
Linlithgow1
Lochgelly2
Macmerry1
Methilhill1
Motherwell1
Musselburgh1
Newburgh1
North Queensferry1
Old Kilpatrick1
Paisley7
Pittenweem1
Port Glasgow1
Prestwick1
Redding1
Renfrew1
Rutherglen1
Sauchie1
Strathmiglo1
Tayport2
Tillicoultry1
Tranent1
Tullibody1
9513
* In addition 25 outline comprehensive development areas are to be approved in the Quinquennial Review of the Glasgow Development Plan.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much has been spent by local authorities in Scotland, during each of the years ended 31st March from 1952 to 1962, on acquiring and clearing land in central redevelopment areas.

The best information available to me on capital expenditure by local authorities for acquisition and clearance of land for central redevelopment comes from records of consents given for borrowing. The amounts for which loan sanction for these purposes was granted during the period in question were:

£
1951–54Nil
1954–554,875
1955–5665,983
1956–5773,441
1957–5848,223
1958–592,052,046
1959–60386,538
1960–611,005,894
1961–621,027,751

Universities (Scotland) Act, 1889

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will submit evidence to the Robbins Committee on Higher Education on the operation of the Universities (Scotland) Act, 1889.

In view of the limited scope of my functions under the Act I do not think it is for me to submit evidence on its operation.

Unfit Houses

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that the number of slum houses demolished or closed in Scotland decreased from 10,955 in 1958 to 9,174 in 1961; and if he will now state the 1962 figure.

The number of unfit houses taken out of use in the first nine months of 1962 (the latest figure available) was about 8,000, including houses dealt with other than by specific statutory action.

Select Committee On Procedure (Notices Of Motions)

45.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will move to refer to the Select Committee on Procedure the question of the desirability of ballots for notices of motions being held before Ministerial statements.

If this were the general wish of the House I would, of course, be willing to consider it but I have no evidence of this.

Shipbuilding

Prototype Nuclear Ship

64 and 65.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) if he has yet reached a decision regarding the most suitable type, tonnage, shaft horsepower and speed for a British prototype nuclear-powered merchant ship and, now that the engine room requirements for a given shaft horsepower are known, whether he will put the design out to tender in British shipyards;(2) how long he estimates it will take him to give financial approval for building the first British prototype nuclear-powered merchant ship.

My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister told the House on Monday that I would very soon be having discussions with those concerned about arrangements for the construction, ownership and operation of a prototype nuclear ship. These talks have now begun.It is too soon to say what type and size of ship will be selected if the Government decides that one should be built. Nor is it possible to say at this stage how the order will be placed.If suitable financial and other arrangements can be agreed with industry, I hope that a firm decision whether a ship should be built will be taken before the end of this year.

Government Orders

71.

asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of the current unemployment in shipbuilding areas, he will, in consultation with the other Departments concerned, implement Recommendation (i) of the Shipbuilding Advisory Committee's special subcommittee by accelerating Government orders for ships.

My noble Friend the First Lord of the Admiralty announced plans for accelerating naval orders on 23rd January. I am still exploring with some other Departments the possibility of bringing forward orders.

Railways

Electrified Railway System, Tyneside

68.

asked the Minister of Transport if, in considering the proposals involving substantial capital outlay put to him by the Railways Board, he will refuse to allow the conversion of the electrified railway system on Tyneside to diesel locomotives, because of the additional atmospheric pollution that will be caused.

No. Conversion of the Tyneside services did not in any case involve any new capital outlay requiring my consent.

Roads

Newcastle-Under-Lyme

69.

asked the Minister of Transport what study is being made of the effect of the opening of the M.6 on increasing traffic on certain roads in Newcastle-under-Lyme; and if he will consider further measures for the improvement of safety at an early date.

The opening of further sections of M.6 now under construction will relieve conditions in the town. In the meantime if the hon. Member will let me have details of any specific difficulty, I will look into it.

79.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the nature of the report he has received from Newcastle-under-Lyme Council on the dangerous junction of Bradwell Lane and the A.34; and what action he will take.

The borough council has recently drawn attention to accidents at this junction. My representative has discussed the matter with the council and I await its proposals for altering the junction layout. I will consider what action should be taken when these proposals have been received.

Roads (Frost Damage)

70.

asked the Minister of Transport whether frost damage to trunk roads has now enabled the road research authorities to determine the best type of road surface to be used in future.

Resistance to frost damage is only one of the factors to be taken into account in determining the best type of road surface. In any case, frost damage depends not only on the type of surface but also on the quality and thickness of the carriageway foundation. The present design standards for new roads take account of both experience and the latest research. The effect on roads of the recent heavy prolonged frost will be studied to see if there are any further lessons to be learned.

Humber Bridge

74.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he has yet received from the Humber Bridge Board a detailed analytical survey of the probable costs, user, financing and economic implications of a Humber bridge.

asked the Minister of Transport in what year's programme he will include approval for the construction of the proposed Humber Bridge; and what percentage grant he will make towards the cost of the construction.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the existing economic situation in North-East England, he will now authorise the start of the construction of the Humber Bridge.

I have not yet received a report from the Humber Bridge Board.I do not wish to prejudge the report but I doubt whether the very high cost of building a bridge and its approach roads would be justified at present by its value to traffic. The road improvements which are already planned for this area will provide Hull with first-class dual carriageway connections with A.1 and with the West Riding.

Thorne By-Pass

75.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will expedite the normal arrangements for constructing the proposed Thorne by-pass; and, in view of the local unemployment situation, to what extent he made it a condition of the contract that the contractors employ local labour wherever possible.

We are pressing ahead as quickly as possible with the statutory procedures necessary to establish the line of the by-pass, to permit alteration to intersecting roads and for the acquisition of land. But it will probably be some two years before construction can actually start.I would not think it right to prevent contractors recruiting the most efficient labour force by imposing conditions about employment of local labour. In practice all road schemes provide local employment.

Severn Bridge (Ancillary Wire Ropes)

77.

asked the Minister of Transport what tenders were submitted for the supply of ancillary wire ropes for the Severn Bridge; what recommendations on the award of the contract was made to him by the consulting engineers; and if it was on his decision that the tender was awarded to an Edinburgh firm.

Three tenders, identical in price, were submitted. No recommendation was made by the consulting engineers that the order for the ropes, other than the suspender ropes, should be awarded to a particular firm. The answer to the last part of the Question is "Yes, Sir".

78.

asked the Minister of Transport why he placed the contract for the supply of ancillary wire ropes for the Severn Bridge with an Edinburgh firm, in view of the facts that unemployment is at a higher level in Cardiff and that a competitive tender was submitted by a Cardiff firm.

There being nothing to choose between the three tenders on grounds of price or technical merit, I decided, in view of the level of unemployment in Scotland as a whole, that the order should be placed there.

Great West Road (Crossing)

82.

asked the Minister of Transport if he intends to build a footbridge or a subway for pedestrians crossing the Great West Road at the railway bridge by the entrances to the Pyrene and Firestone factories.

I am arranging for counts of pedestrian movements, and will then consider whether the volume justifies the provision of special crossing facilities.

Roads, Wales And Monmouthshire (Snow Clearance And Gritting)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will indicate the cost to the county councils of Wales and Monmouthshire, separately, for snow clearance and gritting during the recent severe weather conditions for trunk roads, classified and unclassified roads; how much the estimates of the authorities for such work have been exceeded; and how much extra grant is to be made available for the classified and unclassified roads.

We do not yet know what the cost to the county councils is likely to be. As for additional grants for classified roads I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Southampton, Itchen (Dr. King) on 29th January.

South-East Lancashire And North-East Cheshire Conurbation Committee

asked the Minister of Transport whether he has now been able to consider the recommendations put before him by the South-East Lancashire and the North-East Cheshire Conurbation Committee Report on Roads; what procedure will be adopted with regard to the implementation of the proposals contained therein; and by what date he anticipates it will be possible for the reports of other conurbation committees to be published so that a complete picture can be obtained as to what the national requirements are in this respect.

I have not yet received recommendations from the South-East Lancashire and North-East Cheshire Conurbation Committee. The recently published report on roads in this area was prepared by a committee of the surveyors to the local highway authorities concerned. The report is now being considered by those authorities. I expect to receive recommendations from the Committee within the next few months and I hope then to be able to agree with them a phased programme of classified road improvements for the area.The decision whether or not to publish reports prepared by Conurbation Committees or Sub-Committees must rest with the local authorities concerned. I have received reports from the West Midland, West Riding and Tyneside Conurbation Committees, some of which are still under review. None of these reports has been published. I expect to receive a report from the Merseyside Conurbation Committee later this year.

Hull

asked the Minister of Transport (1) if he will state the schemes, sponsored by the Hull City Council for the relief of the 5,447 unemployed in the city, for which he will grant loan sanction; and what is the estimated cost of each scheme;(2) whether he will initiate road or other schemes in the Hull area for the relief of unemployment.

The initiation of road schemes in Hull is a matter for the city council. My divisional road engineer received from the council on 4th February applications for loan sanction for three unclassified road schemes and a multistorey car park, the estimated total cost of which is £350,000. These applications are being urgently examined and I will write to the hon. and gallant Member as soon as possible.I am not at present proposing to authorise any classified road schemes in Hull additional to those referred to in my reply to the hon. Member on 14th December last.

Shipping

Rochdale Report

76.

asked the Minister of Transport, if he will make a statement on the Rochdale Report.

80.

asked the Minister of Transport when he now proposes to announce the Government's policy on the Rochdale Report.

With permission I will answer this Question and No. 80 together.As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster informed the House on 7th February, I hope to be able to make a statement in the next few weeks.

Transport

Driving Tests

84.

asked the Minister of Transport what special arrangements he proposes to make to provide for the early testing of those motorists whose driving tests have had to be postponed as a result of weather conditions.

I regret the inconvenience caused by the postponement of many driving tests because of the recent weather. Arrangements have been made for driving examiners to work on additional Saturdays during the next few months to help reduce the backlog. Full advantage will also continue to be taken of testing periods that become available when other candidates are unable to keep appointments already booked.

Paid Appointments

asked the Minister of Transport how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has within his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

Under the provisions of the Transport Act, 1962, I am responsible for the appointment of the Chairmen of the following nationalised industry boards. The salaries are as shown below:

£
British Railways Board24,000
British Transport Docks Board7,500
London Transport Board8,500
British Waterways Board (parttime Chairman)4,000
In consultation with the respective Chairmen, I am responsible for the appointment of the members of these Boards. Details of these Boards as at present constituted are as follows:

British Railways Board

6 full-time members—

  • 1 at £12,000 per annum.
  • 1 at £8,000 per annum.
  • 4 at £7,500 per annum.

6 part-time members at £1,000 per annum.

British Transport Docks Board

6 part-time members at £1,000 per annum.

London Transport Board

3 full-time members—

  • 1 at £7,000 per annum.
  • 2 at £6,000 per annum.

3 part-lime members at £1,000 per annum.

British Waterways Board

  • 1 full-time member at £5,000 per annum.
  • 4 part-time members at £1,000 per annum.

Similarly I am responsible for the appointment of the Chairman and Directors of the Transport Holding Company. Details of these appointments are as follows:

  • Chairman (part-time)—£4,000.
  • 1 Director (full-time)—£7,500.
  • 5 Directors (part-time)—£1,000.

I have made the following full-time appointments to the Transport Tribunal:

  • President—£5,800 per annum.
  • 2 Members—£5,000 per annum, £4,000 per annum.
  • Registrar—£2,654 per annum.

I am also responsible for the following appointments:

Inspector of the Imperial Lighthouse Service, Bahamas on scale £1,633-£2,066 per annum.

Secretary of the Imperial Lighthouse Service, Bahamas on scale;£476-£1,260.

Superintendent of the Imperial Lighthouse Service, Ceylon on scale £1,531-£1,747.

Acting Conservator of the River Mersey (part-time) £780 per anum

Liverpool Officer of the Mersey Conservancy and Inspector of the Upper River Mersey (part-time) £370 per annum.

Secretary of the Scottish Transport Council part-time £250 per annum.

Employment

Sheerness

85.

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of unemployed registered at the Sheerness Employment Exchange at the latest count; what percentage of insured workers this represents; and how it compares with the corresponding periods of 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, and 1962.

The following table gives the information required:

NUMBER OF PERSONS REGISTERED AND PERCENTAGE RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT, AT SHEERNESS EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGE AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICE
DateNumberPer cent.
14th January, 196376710·5
15th January, 19625457·4
16th January, 19614876·6
11th January, 19605888·7
12th January, 19594195·6
13th January, 19582573·0
In January, 1963, about a third of the persons registered were last employed in construction.

South Yorkshire

86.

asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware of the growing unemployment in South Yorkshire; if he is satisfied that the facilities of his Department are as available here as in other areas of higher unemployment elsewhere; what reply he has sent to such parts of the resolution, a copy of which has been sent to him, which come within his responsibility, from the Sheffield Branch of the Confederation of Shipbuilding and Engineering Unions; and if he will make a statement.

Unemployment in South Yorkshire has risen over the past year. The facilities of my Department are available here as in other areas and my local officers will continue to do all they can to find alternative employment for those who are registered for work.I am replying today to the hon. Member about the resolution from the Sheffield Branch of the Confederation of Shipbuilding and Engineering Unions which he sent to me on 9th February.

Productive Work

asked the Minister of Labour what proportion of the population is occupied in direct productive work; and how this compares with the United States of America, France, West Germany and Japan.

Comparable figures are available of persons employed in manufacturing, mining and quarrying, construction and agriculture (including forestry and fishing) and are estimated to be:

Percentage of total population
Great Britain23·4
U.S.A14·4
France22·0
West Germany28·4
Japan30·0

Civil Servants

asked the Minister of Labour what proportion of the population at present is represented by civil servants compared with 10 years ago; and how these figures compare with those of the United States of America, France, West Germany and Japan.

As far as can readily be ascertained the proportion of the total population employed as non-industrial civil servants in the following countries is:

Percentage of total population
mid-1962mid-1952
Great Britain1·31·4
France1·71·7
Japan1·41·4
Comparable figures are not available for U.S.A. or for West Germany.

Paid Appointments

asked the Minister of Labour how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has within his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

I make appointments to nine salaried appointments outside the Civil Service. They are:

Industrial Court

  • President—£5,800 per year.
  • Person representing workpeople—£1,925 per year.

Remploy Limited

  • Managing Director—£4,000 per year.
  • Sales Director—£3,000 per year.
  • Production Director—£3,000 per year.
  • Financial Director—£2,700 per year.
  • Personnel Director—£2,600 per year.

National Dock Labour Board

Chairman and Vice-Chairman.

The Dock Workers (Regulation of Employment) (Amendment) Order, 1961, provides that the appointments of the Chairman and Vice-Chairman shall be made after consultation with the National Joint Council for the Port Transport Industry and that their salaries shall be such as may be determined by the Board.

Northern Region

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of unemployed in the northern region at the February, 1963, count as compared with the year 1962; and what percentage increase this represents over the 1962 figure.

I regret the figures for February, 1963, are not yet available. There were 46,326 unemployed on 12th February, 1962.

Gateshead

asked the Minister of Labour how many persons, male and female, and persons under 18 years of age, male and female, respectively, were registered as unemployed at the February, 1963, count in the Gateshead employment area; what was the percentage unemployed in the area; what was the percentage rate for male and female, respectively; and if he will give the comparable figure for 12 months earlier.

I regret the figures for February, 1963, are not yet available. Following are the figures for 12th February, 1962:

GATESHEAD AND FELLING EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES
Number UnemployedPer cent. of Unemployment
Men1,6654·4
Boys122
Women2791·5
Girls17
2,0833·5

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of unemployed in the Gateshead employment area at the latest convenient date who have been registered for two months or more; and what percentage this is of the total number unemployed in Gateshead.

On 15th January, 1963, 1,862 had been wholly unemployed for more than two months. This was 46 per cent, of the total unemployed including those temporarily stopped.

Congo

87.

asked the Lord Privy Seal when he expects to receive further information as to the nature of the steps which the Secretary-General of the United Nations Organisation is proposing to take with a view to improving communications and co-ordination in connection with the United Nations troops in the Congo; and whether he is satisfied that such steps will include such effective measures of disciplinary control over troops as will ensure the freedom of the civilian population from molestation.

Following his visit to the Congo Dr. Ralph Bunche recommended that a two or three man mission should be sent to the Congo to study the existing machinery of the United Nations Force for communication and co-ordination. This recommedation has been accepted by the Secretary-General.

Hertford Hospital, Paris

88.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what steps he proposes to take to reimburse the Hertford Hospital in Paris for any loss incurred on preparations for the appeal for the hospital already made in anticipation of the visit of Her Royal Highness Princess Margaret in March.

To the best of my knowledge, no loss of this kind has been incurred by the hospital.

Algerian Refugees (Relief)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what was the amount of the contribution from Her Majesty's Government to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in response to his appeal for relief for Algerian refugees repatriated from Morocco and Tunisia.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answers given to Questions on this subject on 29th November, 28th January and 11th February. Briefly, Her Majesty's Government did not respond directly to the appeal made by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees for the relief of Algerians repatriated from Morocco and Tunisia because, in their view, such persons were no longer the High Commissioner's responsibility. The High Commissioner himself has since accepted this and his present function in relation to Algerian re-repatriates is limited to transmitting to the League of Red Cross Societies any funds received on their behalf.Her Majesty's Government have, however, since the High Commissioner's appeal, made available to the Algerian Government a fully equipped and staffed mobile nursing unit at a cost of approximately £10,000. They have also provided at a similar cost 20,000 blankets.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Sandhills, Saltfleet

89.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will remove the fencing on the sandhills at Saltfleet, in order to free the sandhills for public use again, in view of the support by the local authorities for this action; and if he will make a statement.

This fencing was erected to give necessary protection to the sandhills which form the sea defences for this part of the coast. It is the responsibility of the Lincolnshire River Board to decide how best these defences can be safeguarded.

Fowl Pest, Kent

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many outbreaks of fowl pest occurred in Kent during the 12 months ended 30th November, 1962; how this compares with the same period of 1961; and what the amount of compensation paid, was for each period.

During the 12 months ended 30th November, 1962, there were 73 outbreaks of fowl pest in Kent: 142,025 birds were slaughtered for which compensation of £98,782 was paid. During the 12 months ended 30th November, 1961, there were 22 outbreaks involving 101,363 birds and compensation of £78,515.

Ministry Of Defence

V-Bomber Force

90.

asked the Minister of Defence what effect the allotment or assignment to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation of the V-bombers of the Royal Air Force will have upon their targeting, planning, command and political control.

I refer my hon. Friend to my remarks in the recent defence debate on these issues.

Royal Navy

Naval Mission, Libya

91 and 92.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty (1) what were the terms on which two minesweepers were transferred to Libya;(2) on what terms the British Naval Mission was appointed to Libya; and what is its annual cost.

As stated by my right hon. Friend the Lord Privy Seal on 23rd November, 1962, Her Majesty's Government have agreed to assist the Libyan Government to form a navy. To this end, H.M. ships "Greetham" and "Harpham" have been made available to the Libyan Government pending a decision about the settlement of the financial arrangements, and a naval mission has been sent to Libya.The cost of the mission is expected to be about £45,000 a year, which will be met by Her Majesty's Government.

Messrs Bailey (Malta) Limited

93.

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty for how long he proposes to continue the interruption in the placing of new work in Bailey's Dockyard, Malta.

I would ask my hon. Friend to await the statement which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Colonies will be making to the House shortly.

Polaris Submarines (Depot Ship)

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty what his estimate is of the cost of providing a special depot ship for the planned Polaris-carrying nuclear submarine fleet.

As there are at present no plans to provide a special depot ship for Polaris-carrying submarines, it would not be relevant to attempt to forecast the cost of one.

Married Quarters (Steward Mason)

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if, in view of the family problems now under reconsideration by the First Lord, he will give orders for Steward Mason, Royal Navy, to be flown home from the Far East on compassionate leave.

No. We have already allowed his wife and family to retain this married quarter for four months beyond the normal maximum term of occupancy of three years which applies whether or not the husband has been drafted overseas. The quarter is now wanted for another rating's family. I do not consider that Steward Mason's problems in this connection are such as to warrant interfering with his commander-in-chief's discretion to grant compassionate leave, if Steward Mason wishes to apply for it.

Departmental Employees (Day Release Classes)

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty if he will list the places where his Department has experienced difficulties in making suitable arrangements for day release classes for Admiralty juveniles.

I fear that my reply to a supplementary question last week may have been misleading and if so, I apologise to the hon. Member.I was not intending to refer to the difficulties which had occurred in the existing voluntary system, but to a situation that might occur if it was made compulsory and this resulted in a sudden

DatePortsmouthDevonportChathamRosyth
I.N.I.I.N.IIN.I.I.N.I.
January 1950No figures available14,9911,526No figures available5,4641,022
195515,4091,80717,2401,7839,6501,4406,3351,095
196015,0631,94216,2491,96210,2001,5706,1601,134
196114,4472,06216,2352,0489,7201,6706,0991,128
196214,3642,10216,2542,1219,5801,6106,0221,146

Note: Records at Portsmouth and Chatham for 1950 have been destroyed.

Malta

Messrs Bailey (Malta) Limited

94 and 95.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies (1) when the sending of Government-owned vessels for repair in the yard of Bailey (Malta) Limited is to be resumed;(2) how soon he expects the run-down of the 2,000 men employed on the repair of Government-owned vessels in the yard of Bailey (Malta) Limited to be completed.

increase of students, many of them studying for A levels, who would be joining at any period during the academic year. There might also be difficulties from the fact that many would be reluctant scholars. The compulsory release in some establishments might necessitate the recruiting of additional staff.

In the time available, it is not possible for me to quantify the total of these and other potential difficulties. At this moment, I can only repeat that we give all the encouragement we can to such further education. If it should be possible to make this compulsory, either generally or at particular places, we will of course consider doing so.

Dockyards (Employees)

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty whether he will state the total industrial and non-industrial strengths at the Royal Naval Dockyards at Devonport, Rosyth, Portsmouth and Chatham in the months of April, 1950, 1955, 1960, 1961, and 1962, respectively.

Figures for the month of April of the years in question are not readily available, but those for the 1st of January are as follow:

Swaziland

Constitutional Conference

96.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will make a statement on the proceedings of the Swaziland constitutional conference.

The talks in London ended yesterday; It was agreed that the Resident Commissioner should carry out further consultations in Swaziland on the basis of conclusions prepared by Her Majesty's Government in the light of the discussions at the Conference.When the reactions to those conclusions have been considered a new Constitution will be promulgated.

Following is the Press statement issued last night:

The final session of the Swaziland Constitutional talks was held today (Tuesday, 12th February, 1963) with the Secretary of State for the Colonies (Mr. Duncan Sandys) in the chair.
The talks which were convened in response to requests from Swaziland, were attended by representatives of the Swazi National Council, the European Advisory Council, the Eurafrican Welfare Association, the Swaziland Progressive Party, the Swaziland Democratic Party, the Mbandzeni National Convention and Dr. D. Hynd, a medical missionary.
In his closing statement the Secretary of State said that the next step would be for an analysis of the different points of view to be made. Her Majesty's Government would then study this analysis with a view to formulating comprehensive conclusions on the constitutional future for Swaziland. These conclusions would then be transmitted to the Resident Commissioner, and he would be asked to consult with the Ngwenyama and representatives who have attended these talks. Her Majesty's Government's decisions would be taken in the light of these further consultations.

Colonial Territories

Paid Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

Thirteen. Of these twelve are appointments to the Board of the Colonial Development Corporation. The Board consists of a Chairman, a Deputy Chairman and not less than four or not more than ten Members. At present there are six members. All these appointments are part-time. Their salaries are as follows: Chairman, £5,250; Deputy Chairman, £1,500; Members, £1,000.The remaining appointment is that of Executive Commissioner of the British Caribbean Currency Board, whose salary is £2,000.

Ministry Of Aviation

Paid Appointments

asked the Minister of Aviation how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

The number of salaried posts is 33, made up as follows:

British Overseas Airways Corporation—11 posts*.
British European Airways Corporation—11 posts*.
Air Transport Licensing Board—2 posts (Chairman: £5,000 per annum, Deputy Chairman: £3,500 per annum, the remaining seven Board members are paid by sessional fees).
Power Jets (Research and Development)— posts (Chairman: £500 per annum (fee), Part-time Director £250 per annum (fee), Managing Director: remuneration determined by the Company).
S.B. Realisations, Ltd.—6 posts (Unpaid; the holders of these posts are also on the Board of Short Bros. & Harland, Ltd., and receive emoluments as determined by that Company).

* For details see Cmnd. 1903.

Nyasaland

Intimidation (Prosecutions)

asked the First Secretary of State what instructions the Attorney-General in Nyasaland has given to the police when dealing with cases of alleged political intimidation; and how many such cases the Attorney-General has authorised to be brought before the courts in the past six months.

The former Attorney-General in Nyasaland directed in March, 1962, that all prosecutions for certain types of offences should be referred to him for his directions before being taken to court. Intimidation, but not specifically political intimidation, was one of the offences listed.In the six months ended 31st January, 1963, prosecutions were authorised in six cases of intimidation. Since 1st February, 1963, the powers of the Attorney-General have been assumed by the Director of Public Prosecutions. The direction of March, 1962, is still in force.

Commonwealth Relations

Paid Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

As Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations I am responsible for making only one paid appointment to a post outside the Civil Service. This appointment is to the post of United Kingdom Commissioner on the British Phosphates Commission, which carries a salary of £1,250 a year.

Ministry Of Health

Paid Appointments

asked the Minister of Health how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

The salaried posts outside the Civil Service to which I make appointments are as follows:Dental Estimates Board—

  • Chairman—£3,600 per annum.
  • Vice-Chairman—£3,170 per annum.
  • 2 Full-time Members—£2,940 per annum.

Medical Practices Committee—

Chairman—£2,200 per annum.

Standing Advisory Committee on Distinction Awards—

  • Chairman—£3,150 per annum.
  • Vice-Chairman—£500 per annum.

The appointments of Chairman and Vice-Chairman of the Standing Advisory Committee on Distinction Awards are made jointly with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland.

Home Department

Paid Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

Appointments made directly by the Secretary of State

9 Commanders, Metropolitan Police—£3,275-£3,650.

London Probation Service—

  • Principal Probation Officer—£2,200.
  • 2 Deputy Principal Probation Officers— £1,455-£1,610.
  • 4 Assistant Principal Probation Officers— £1,295-£1,460.
  • 25 Senior Probation Officers—£1,145-£1,270.
  • 164 Probation Officers—£750-£1,320.
  • 13 Temporary Probation Officers—£13 10s.-£23 10s. a week.
  • 84 full-time and 33 part-time clerical and typing staff at salaries ranging from £300-£950.

Metropolitan Magistrates' Courts—

  • 1 Senior Chief Clerk—£3,670.
  • 18 Chief Clerks—£2,865-£3,255.
  • 21 Deputy Chief Clerks—£1,630-£2,300.
  • 9 Clerks—£1,080-£1,240.
  • 198 subordinate executive, clerical, typing and ancillary court staff (excluding 55 cleaners paid on an hourly basis) on rates of pay identical with those of comparable posts in the Civil Service.
  • Chairman of the Horserace Betting Levy Board—£3,500.
  • 2 Members of the Horserace; Betting Levy Board—£1,000.
  • Chairman of the Totalisator Board—£3,000.
  • 3 Members of the Totalisator Board—£1,000.
  • Secretary of the Irish Sailors and Soldiers Land Trust—£800.

Civil Defence (Training Grounds)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his policy regarding the siting of civil defence training grounds adjacent to civil defence headquarters.

The selection of sites for training facilities for the Civil Defence Corps is the responsibility of the local authorities undertaking the provision of these facilities. I should not be justified in introducing a requirement restricting the siting of training grounds in the way indicated.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in how many cases the sites of existing and proposed civil defence exercise grounds are adjacent to the civil defence headquarters which they serve; and in how many cases they are elsewhere.

I regret that the information for which the hon. Member asks is not available.

Housing

Improvement Grants, Gateshead

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many houses in Gateshead were improved with the assistance of the standard and discretionary grant up to the most recent date for which figures are available; and whether the figure for the last 12 months reveals improvement on the previous 12 months.

Grants for improvement of houses in Gateshead have been approved as follows:

StandardDiscretionaryTotal
Total to 31st January, 1963372128500
12 months to 31st January, 19629416110
12 months to 31st January, 19637632108

Ministry Of Power

Paid Appointments

asked the Minister of Power how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has within his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

I am responsible for appointing altogether up to 261 members (including part-time members) of the boards of the nationalised coal, electricity and gas industries and of the Iron and Steel Bord. Particulars of the appointments to the nationalised boards as at 1st November, 1962, including the salaries, are shown in Command Paper 1903. I have also appointed the part-time Chairman and Deputy Chairman of the Iron and Steel Board at salaries of £6,000 and £1,500 a year respectively, one whole-time member at £7,000 a year and nine part-time members at £1,000 a year.

Post Office

Paid Appointments

asked the Postmaster-General how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

The appointments are:

Salary
£
Chairman, Independent Television Authority4,000
Deputy Chairman, Independent Television Authority1,500
8 members, Independent Television Authority1,000 each
U.K. Member Commonwealth Telecommunications Board1,750
In addition the following provide services for the Post Office and are paid either a fixed fee or according to the volume of the work done:

  • Solicitor to the Post Office in Scotland.
  • Typographical Adviser.
  • Consultant Physiologist.
  • 22,953 Sub Postmasters.
  • 225 Caretaker Operators.

Pensions And National Insurance

Paid Appointments

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

The salaried appointments of this nature which I make are those of the Chairman of the National Insurance Advisory Committee (£1,500 a year) and the Chairman of the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council (£350 a year).

Technical Co-Operation

Paid Appointments

asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

Appointments to the following five posts outside the Civil Service fall to be made by me, after consultation with my colleagues as necessary:

  • (a) The Senior and the Second Crown Agents for Oversea Governments and Administrations. Salaries: £5,015 and £4,215 per annum.
  • (b) The member of the Commonwealth Telecommunications Board to represent British Commonwealth and Empire territories not directly represented by other members. Salary: £1,750;per annum.
  • (c) The Official Representative and the Deputy Official Representative at the Over- seas Territories Income Tax Office. Salaries: £3,400;and;£3,100 per annum, respectively.
  • None of these salaries is paid from moneys voted by the House.

    Public Building And Works

    Paid Appointments

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works how many paid appointments to posts outside the Civil Service he has in his patronage; what is the nature of each appointment; and what salary is payable in each case.

    They are:

    The Chairmanships of the Historic Buildings Councils of England, Scotland and Wales, with annual fees of £1,500, £500 and £250 respectively.
    The Chaplaincies at Osborne House and Brompton Cemetery with annual fees of £100 and £75.