Written Answers To Questions
Thursday, 20th June, 1963
Home Department
Street Bookmaking Offences
8.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many convictions there have been for street bookmaking offences in the last year, to the nearest convenient date; and how many there were in the last year before the passing of the Betting and Gaming Act, 1961.
The only available figures are those for the Metropolitan Police District, where there were 9 convictions in 1962 and 3,814 in 1960.
Licensing Act (Closing Time)
9.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many licensing authorities have extended closing time at night as a result
| Territory which issued passport | Part I Movement into and out of the United Kingdom of persons subject to immigration control | Part II Deportations | ||||||
| Admitted | Embarked | Net inward balance | ||||||
| Barbados | … | … | … | … | 2,268 | 1,744 | 524 | 4 |
| British Guiana | … | … | … | 2,721 | 1,835 | 886 | 9 | |
| Jamaica | … | … | … | … | 12,079 | 8,365 | 3,714 | 28 |
| Leeward and Windward Islands | … | 1,416 | 1,129 | 287 | 6 | |||
| Trinidad and Tobago | … | … | 4,959 | 4,388 | 571 | 3 | ||
| All other Commonwealth territories | 23,443 | 17,461 | 5,982 | 50 | ||||
| 272,252 | 251,075 | 21,177 | 32 | |||||
| TOTAL | … | … | … | 295,695 | 268,536 | 27,159 | 82* | |
| Notes: | ||||||||
| 1 There is no control on traffic between Ireland and Britain. | ||||||||
| 2 These figures include persons enjoying diplomatic immunity, who are recorded for statistical purposes although exempt from control under Section 17 of the Act. | ||||||||
| * Excludes citizens of the Republic of Ireland. | ||||||||
of the licensing Act; and how many have made no change.
The figures for 1963 are 546 and 359, respectively.
Commonwealth Immigrants
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will state the total number of immigrants from the Commonwealth in 1957, 1961, and during the period 1st July, 1962, to 31st May, 1963, respectively; how many have now been deported under Part II of the Commonwealth Immigrants Act, 1962; and how many in each category were West Indians.
The following table gives the information requested about the operation of the Commonwealth Immigrants Act, 1962:inward movement from Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland.
Christmas Plays (Children And Young Persons)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is aware that theatre managers are now in the process of making arrangements to engage children for performances in Christmas plays; and whether he will give an assurance that none of the restrictions or changes envisaged in the Children and Young Persons Bill will be brought into operation before the end of the Christmas plays season.
The provisions of the Bill relating to the employment of children and young persons in entertainment will not be brought into effect before the end of the 1963–64 Christmas season.
Summer Time
16.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he consulted farming organisations about the proposal to start Summer Time next year on 22nd March; and if other representative bodies expressed agreement about the extended period proposed.
I had no consultations with outside organisations about the precise dates proposed for Summer Time in 1964.
Juvenile Delinquency
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he will take to tackle the problem of delinquency indicated in the recent report on approved schools.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply on the subject of juvenile delinquency that I gave on 4th April to the hon. Member for Wood Green (Mrs. Butler).
Ministry Of Power
Beeching Report
27.
asked the Minister of Power whether he will institute an inquiry into the operation of nationalised fuel and power undertakings to assist in implementing the recommendations of the Beeching Report.
No.
Smokeless Fuels
33.
asked the Minister of Power if he is aware that one of the consequences of the Gas Board's policy of replacing coal by gas oil for the making of town gas is a reduction in the quantity of solid smokeless fuel coming from the gas industry; and what steps he is now taking to ensure that adequate supplies of solid smokeless fuel are available to consumers.
Yes. There should, however, be no reduction over the next few years in the availability of gas coke for domestic open fires, and supplies of other smokeless fuels are being increased.My right hon. Friend is at present reviewing the likely trend of supply and demand of all the smokeless fuels.
Coal
Prices
34.
asked the Minister of Power what consultations he has had with the Chairman of the National Coal Board on the future price of coal; and whether he will make a statement.
I have had frequent talks with the Chairman who has stated in public that the Board hopes to be able to make some selective price reductions.
Education
Loan Charges
37.
asked the Minister of Education if he will give the annual cost of loan charges for capital investment in education for each year since 1951; and if he will give them as a percentage of the appropriate annual total expenditure on education.
The following is the list:
| — | Expenditure on loan charges by Local Education Authorities | Column (1) as percentage of total net revenue expenditure by Local Education Authorities |
| (£000) | Per cent. | |
| 1951–52 | 12,229 | 4·19 |
| 1952–53 | 15,662 | 4·77 |
| 1953–54 | 19,367 | 5·62 |
| 1954–55 | 22,697 | 5·93 |
| 1955–56 | 27,015 | 6·45 |
| 1956–57 | 32,958 | 6·72 |
| 1957–58 | 41,004 | 7·52 |
| 1958–59 | 47,904 | 8·13 |
| 1959–60 | 54,750 | 8·42 |
| 1960–61 | 62,211 | 8·83 |
| 1961–62 | 71,290 | 9·13 |
Comprehensive Secondary Schools (Wales)
asked the Minister of Education which local education authorities in Wales have, or are, making plans to establish comprehensive secondary schools; and how many of such schools have been, or are in process of being, erected in each of the authorities' areas.
The information is as follows:
| COMPREHENSIVE SECONDARY SCHOOLS, WALES | ||
| Local Education Authority | Number already established | Number proposed* |
| Anglesey | 4 | — |
| Breconshire | 3 | 1 |
| Caernarvonshire | 5 | — |
| Cardiganshire | 4 | — |
| Carmarthenshire | 1 | — |
| Denbighshire | 1 | — |
| Glamorgan | 1 | 5 |
| Merioneth | 4 | 1 |
| Monmouthshire | — | 2 |
| Montgomeryshire | 5 | — |
| Pembrokeshire | 4 | — |
| Merthyr Tydfil | — | 1 |
| Newport, Monmouthshire | 1 | 1 |
| Swansea | 2 | — |
| Total | 35 | 11 |
| * Note: This column relates to specific proposals for comprehensive schools known to the department. Of the eleven new schools, seven will eventually be housed in completely new buildings. Work has already started on most of them. | ||
Housing
Building Costs
38.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether the increased cost of house building referred to in paragraphs 73 and 74 of Command Paper No. 2050 will be controlled after he has brought into operation Her Majesty's Government's Housing subsidy policy.
The increased costs referred to are for building to higher standards. The right way to achieve these standards at rents that people can afford is not by introducing price controls but by increasing the productivity of the building industry.
Housing Associations
40.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many housing societies have had projects approved for providing houses to let; in what local authority areas they operate; and how many houses are represented by these projects.
Under Section 7 of the Housing Act, 1961, my right hon. Friend has approved 37 projects, or schemes, from 23 housing associations for providing housing to let at cost rents. These schemes involve some 2,250 dwellings. As they are in 31 different local authority areas, I am circulating the names of these in the Official Report.
The following is the list of local authority areas in alphabetical order:
| Basildon U.D.C. | Hitchin R.D.C. |
| Benfleet U.D.C. | Hornchurch U.DC. |
| Blaby R.D.C. | Hornsey B.C. |
| Birmingham C.B.C. | Ilkeston B.C. |
| Bristol C.B.C. | Islington M.B.C. |
| Bromley B.C. | Leeds C.B.C. |
| Cardiff C.B.C. | Liverpool C.B.C. |
| Cheadle and Gatley U.D.C. | Malden and Coombe B.C. |
| Chislehurst and Sidcup U.D.C. | Oxford C.B.C. |
| Reading C.B.C | |
| East Grinstead U.D.C. | Reigate B.C. |
| Eton R.D.C. | Solihull B.C. |
| Folkestone B.C. | Swansea C.B.C |
| Hale U.D.C. | Tunbridge Wells B.C. |
| Harrow B.C. | Walton and Wevbridge B.C. |
| Heston and Isleworth B.C. | |
| Woking U.D.C |
Trade And Commerce
Cuba
41 and 42.
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) to what extent the Export of Goods (Control) Order, 1960, and the Strategic Goods (Control) Order, 1961, apply to exports to Cuba; and what lists he has issued of goods subject to embargo to that destination;(2) to what extent the list of goods subject to embargo for I he Soviet
blocand China under the Export of Goods (Control) Order, I960, and the Strategic Goods (Control) Order, 1961, is applied in the case of exports to Cuba.
The Export of Goods (Control) Order, 1963, requires licences to be obtained for exports of the specified goods to most, or in some cases all, destinations. It is not the present practice to issue such licences for exports of strategic goods to Cuba. The Strategic Goods (Control) Order, 1961, does not apply to Cuba.
Advance Factory, Chester-Le-Street
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a statement on the difficulties that have arisen in the acquisition of a site for the purpose of building an advance factory at Chester-le-Street; and what action he proposes to take in order to overcome such difficulties.
The difficulty referred to in my reply to the hon. Member on 30th May is chiefly one of obtaining agreement with all the parties concerned. We are doing our utmost to come to a speedy settlement but to disclose the details would be a breach of confidence and might well add to the time taken.
Southern Rhodesia
Constitution (Discussions)
43.
asked the First Secretary of State what aspects of the constitution and status he discussed recently with the Prime Minister of Southern Rhodesia in Great Britain and elsewhere; what agreements were reached; what differences are still outstanding; what prospects exist of complete agreement on those questions being achieved in the near future; and what further steps he intends to take.
I have nothing to add at present to my statement to the House on 18th June and to what I said in reply to supplementary questions on that occasion.
High Commission Territories
Mr Patrick Duncan
44.
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies why Mr. Patrick Duncan has been declared a prohibited immigrant in the three High Commission Territories.
45.
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will ensure that Mr. Patrick Duncan is free to come and go to and from the Protectorates in Southern Africa.
The Basutoland Executive Council recommended that (in view of statements made by Mr. Duncan in which he associated himself with a policy of organising violence in the Republic of South Africa) his presence in Basutoland would be an embarrassment to that country and that he should be refused permission to return there.For the same reason, the Executive Council in the Bechuanaland Protectorate recommended that he should not be allowed to enter that Territory. In the light of these recommendations the Resident Commissioners in the two territories declared Mr. Duncan a prohibited immigrant under the provisions of the law.Identical action was taken by the Resident Commissioner of Swaziland, where there is as yet no Executive Council.I support these decisions.
Public Building And Works
Constructional Steel
46.
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what consultations he is having with a view to ensuring that more steel is used in the building and construction industry, thus providing an increase in employment in the steel-making areas where unemployment is at a high level.
In conjunction with the British Constructional Steelwork Association we have set up a small technical Working Party which is considering how designs in constructional steel can be modified to make steelwork more competitive. A steel frame is to be used in the new building at Benton, Newcastle, for the Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance in order to provide further information about comparative costs.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Fowl Pest
47.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many of the 107 outbreaks of fowl pest during May were in flocks which had not been vaccinated; how many birds were involved; what was their estimated value; and what proportion of flocks in the country are now being regularly vaccinated.
These outbreaks involved some 665,000 birds altogether. Forty-eight were in non-vaccinated flocks and 21 in part-vaccinated flocks, affecting 48,000 and 82,000 birds, respectively. I have no information as to the value of these birds.114 million doses of subsidised vaccine have been sold since the scheme began. Taking into account the turnover of poultry during that period, this is enough to have treated about 60 per cent. of the birds that should have been vaccinated. But I am glad to say that the corresponding figure for the last 3 months is 80 per cent. This is a big improvement on the figures which my right hon. Friend gave the House on 27th March, but it is vital that sales should at least be maintained at the present level.
National Finance
£ Sterling (Value)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that, taking the internal purchasing value of the £ sterling as 20s. in October, 1951, it had declined to 18s. in June, 1954, and to 15s. 11d. in June 1957; and what was the comparable figure for May, 1963.
Yes, on the basis of changes in the index of retail prices. The comparable figure for May, 1963, was 13s. 9d.
National Income And Cost Of Living
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage increase in the national income over the last 10 years and what has been the increase in the cost of living over the same period.
Between 1952 and 1962 the national income increased by 77 per cent. Over the same period the cost of living, as measured by the consumer price index, increased by 28 per cent.
Universities
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the cost to the Exchequer and to local rates if all fee paying to universities were to be abolished.
The total income of universities from fees is at present estimated at about £8 million a year, of which approximately £7 million is met from central and local public funds. No cost to public funds would arise from their abolition—indeed there would be an immediate saving. If fees at present paid by individuals, and not reimbursed out of public funds, were to become a charge on public funds, the amount involved is estimated at approximately £1 million a year.
Outer Hebrides Croft (Income)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the average money income or equivalent assumed to be derived from a five-acre croft in the Outer Hebrides for the purpose of Income Tax assessment.
The Income Tax assessment on profits from farming is required to be based on actual profits and not on an assumed figure. This rule applies to crofters in the same way as to other farmers. An estimate would be made only if the taxpayer had not made a satisfactory return; the amount of the estimate in such a case would depend on the particular circumstances, and if appealed against would be open to review by the Appeal Commissioners. If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind and will send me the details I will look into it.
Ministry Of Health
Water Supplies (Fluoridation)
asked the Minister of Health what steps he is taking to provide filters under the National Health Service for those members of the public who desire to avoid mass-medication by water which has been treated with sodium fluoride.
I would refer my hon. and gallant Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Wood Green (Mrs. Butler) on 27th May.
Employment
Development Districts
asked the Minister of Labour what percentage of the insured population live in development districts in England, Scotland, and Wales; and how this compares with the percentage of insured population of the former stautory schedule of development areas.
14·8 per cent. of all employees are in development districts, compared with 16·7 per cent. in development areas as last defined in March, 1960.
Wireless And Television
Colour Television
asked the Postmaster-General what is the reason for the delay in introducing colour television in Great Britain; when he expects this service to begin; and if he will make a statement.
The reasons for waiting are: first, so that, as my Television Advisory Committee and the Committee on Broadcasting advised, colour television will be introduced on the 625-line standard commonly in use in Europe, and not on the obsolescent 405-line standard; and secondly because a choice has to be made between three colour transmission systems—the American NTSC (National Television Systems Committee) system; the French SECAM (Séquentiel Couleur à Mémoire) system; and the German PAL (Phase Alternation Line) system.It is of first importance that the system chosen for the United Kingdom should be compatible with that commonly adopted by other European countries, otherwise the advantage of easy exchange of programmes with Europe, an advantage derived from the adoption of the 625-line standard, would be lost for colour television. We are, therefore, seeking to establish through the appropriate international agency, the C.C.I.R. (Comité Consult at if International des Radio communications), agreed technical standards for colour transmission. During the next six months the B.B.C. will be arranging demonstrations and tests of the three systems. The results of these tests will have to be analysed and assessed by the many interests concerned but I hope that by the end of the year my Television Advisory Committee will have reached a provisional conclusion. A special meeting of the C.C.I.R. Study Group concerned with television is to be held here early next year at our invitation. I hope that by then comparative studies which other European countries, are making of the three systems will also have so far progressed as to make possible an international recommendation on a uniform colour standard for the whole of Europe. It is too early to say when a service will begin.
Scotland
Western Isles
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when, at what site, and at what estimated cost, the proposed jetty in the Isle of Eriskay is to be constructed.
As I indicated in reply to the hon. Member's Question on 19th December, 1962, Inverness County Council has made proposals for modifying the existing jetty and for constructing a new jetty at a cost which it estimates at £20,000. No decisions have been taken on the proposals pending trial bores along the line of the proposed jetty; the results of which are now being examined by the county council and my Department.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimated expenditure, and what contribution from him, is necessary upon extension and other works on the pier at Uig, Isle of Skye, for the purposes of the new Western Isles ferry service; how much has been spent since 1938 upon this pier; and what pier and other marine works are necessary in the Outer Isles, with the estimated cost of each and the departmental contribution.
Extension and other works at Uig for the vehicle ferry services to be operated from 1964 by Messrs. Macbrayne's are estimated to cost £70,000. All except about £4,000 of this expenditure will be borne by the Secretary of State as owner of King Edward Pier and of the Kilmuir estate. Since 1938, approximately £70,000 has previously been spent on this pier.In connection with the new vehicle ferry services, the pier at Tarbert, Harris is also being improved; this work is being carried out by the owners, Messrs. David Macbrayne, Ltd., at an estimated cost of £60,000. There will be no direct departmental contribution to the capital cost.Improvement schemes are also under consideration for the piers or jetties at Scalpay and Kyles Scalpay, Lochboisdale, Eriskay, Eoligarry and Vatersay. Except in the case of Eriskay it is not yet possible to give an estimated cost or departmental contribution for these schemes.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the location, acreage, and the number of tenants of each estate in the Outer Hebrides owned and administered by him.
The information requested is set out in the following table:
| Island | Name of Estate | Acreage | Number of Tenants |
| North Uist. | Newton | 13,904 | 56 |
| Balranald | 2,732 | 48 | |
| Balclone | 202 | 5 | |
| South Uist. | Benbecula | 3,267 | 64 |
| Barra | Barra | 2,840 | 59 |
| Eoligarry | 3,294 | 67 | |
| Vatersay | 3,425 | 46 | |
| Harris | Borve | 7,718 | 33 |
| Luskentyre | 5,944 | 11 | |
| Scaristavore | 3,069 | 11 | |
| Lewis | Cross Skigersta | 484 | 108 |
| Lower Bayble | 131 | 17 | |
| Knock | 16 | 8 | |
| Gravir | 61 | 13 | |
| Leurbost | 35 | 11 | |
| Sandwick Parks | 10 | 35 |
Education Services (Psychiatric Social Workers)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many psychiatric social workers are employed in the education services of each education authority in Scotland.
No psychiatric social workers are employed full-time by education authorities, but some have the benefit of the part-time services of such workers employed in other services. In other areas any necessary social work is undertaken by other members of the child guidance staff.
Scottish Records Advisory Council (Representations)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received from the Scottish Records Advisory Council regarding the Report of the Committee of Inquiry into the accommodation needs of the Scottish Record Office, the Office of the Registrar General and the Lyon Office; and what action he intends to take in the matter.
The text is appended of the representations that have been submitted to me by the Scottish Records Advisory Council. I shall consider the Council's views most carefully, together with the Keith Committee's recommendations and the observations on the report which I may receive from other quarters.
"The Scottish Records Advisory Council, in accordance with Section 7(3) of the Public Records (Scotland) Act, 1937, address the following representations to the Secretary of State:
Accommodation Needs of the Scottish Record Office
The Scottish Records Advisory Council have considered the Report on the accommodation needs of the Scottish Record Office, The Registrar General's Office and the Lyon Office prepared by the Committee of Inquiry set up in 1961 by the Secretary of State for Scotland under the chairmanship of the Right Honourable Lord Keith of Avonholm.
While welcoming certain of the Keith Committee's minor recommendations, the Advisory Council reject its main ones as unrealistic and showing little comprehension of the nature of records or of the principles and purposes of their preservation.
The Advisory Council welcome the Committee's recommendations that the transmission of processes from the Court of Session, at present suspended, be resumed as the processes become 20 years old; that some review of Court of Session records be considered by a representative committee; and that accommodation for searchers in the Register House should be improved. They point out, however, that this last measure must depend on the Keeper's having ample space to accommodate the records in his charge.
The Keith Committee, while recognising the accommodation needs of the Scottish Record Office as 'the crux of the problem' have suggested solving it by methods which the Advisory Council consider dangerous to the future well-being of the records, inconvenient to the public, and wasteful of public money
The Keith Committee have proposed that some of the most important legal records should in future be kept on microfilm, a method as yet inadequately tested in which the Advisory Council foresee many practical disadvantages as well as dangers. The Keith Committee favour leaving the Registrar General's Office in its present quarters and giving the Lyon Office increased space in the New Register House, and have proposed that quantities of records now seldom consulted should be transferred to an 'outhouse' on the outskirts of Edinburgh.
The Advisory Council foresee two grave drawbacks in this dividing of public records which have for nearly two centuries been concentrated in a single and easily accessible building. Either the separated portion would be lodged in an inadequately constructed and staffed building, as indeed the expression 'outhouse' suggests, or a suburban annexe would grow into a duplicate Register House at excessive cost to the tax-payer. Either way there would inevitably arise inconvenience to the public and a much higher cost of administration than at present. Both these could be avoided by removing the Registrar General's and the Lord Lyon's offices to some other site in central Edinburgh and allowing the natural expansion of the Scottish Record Office in the Register House buildings.
The Advisory Council point out that the expense of a new building is now unavoidable. But the capital cost of a new building for the two removed departments would, even on the Committee's estimated figures, not be prohibitively greater than that of the proposed 'outhouse'; while administrative costs would show no increase for the Scottish Record Office and very little for the others.
The Advisory Council have for ten years repeatedly advised the removal of the Registrar General's and Lord Lyon's offices from the buildings designed, provided and legally designated to hold the public records. They now urge upon the Secretary of State to take the necessary steps, in consultation with the Minister of Public Building and Works, to allow the public records to continue to be preserved in their present admirable order and readily available to the public."
Roads
Shropshire
asked the Minister of Transport what has been the expenditure on roads in Shropshire for each year since the war.
Expenditure on roads in Shropshire for the year ended 31st March, 1962, was £2,149,000. I regret that information for earlier years is not available.
British Army
Recruiting Film
asked the Secretary of State for War what is the cost to public funds of cutting the part played by Mr. John Profumo out of the Army Technicolor recruiting film entitled, "This is our Life;" and how long this editing will take.
This film was paid for from regimental and not from public funds. Its content and presentation remain a matter for the regiment to decide. I am informed that they have not reached final decisions