Skip to main content

Written Answers

Volume 682: debated on Thursday 1 August 1963

The text on this page has been created from Hansard archive content, it may contain typographical errors.

Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 1st August, 1963

National Finance

Chancellor Of The Exchequer (Salary)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the salary for his office was first fixed at its present rate; and what would be the value of this amount today after allowing for the change in the value of the £ sterling.

The salary of £5,000 was fixed in 1831. The value today would be about £20,000. This figure relates to gross salary, and disregards changes in taxation.

Purchase Tax (Storage Heaters)

13.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will reach a decision about the rate of Purchase Tax on space storage heaters in sufficient time for it to take effect during the coming winter.

Foreign Countries (Building Projects)

asked the Secretary to the Treasury what is his policy on the granting of Treasury consent to the building of hotels and houses by British firms in foreign countries.

Subject to examination of each application, it is the practice to give consent to experienced property development companies to undertake development projects outside the sterling area on condition that the property is sold when development is completed and the capital and profits repatriated. In addition, hotel companies may receive consent for the erection and operation of hotels. In both cases the projects normally have to be financed through the switch market or by borrowing abroad.

Unestablished Civil Servants

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why the unestablished service of civil servants who volunteered during the 1914 to 1918 war is not recognised for pension purposes; whether he is aware of this anomaly as compared with the 1939 to 1945 war; and whether he will review the position.

Because unestablished service in the Civil Service prior to 1st January, 1919, is not normally reckon-able for pension purposes, and no case exists for giving preferential treatment to those who served in the Forces during the 1914 to 1918 war. This conclusion has been accepted on a number of occasions when the subject has been debated in the House, and I do not consider that any useful purpose would be served by a further review.

Tax Regulations (Sale Of Blackcurrant Juice)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what changes he is making in the tax regulations governing the sale of blackcurrant juice.

My right hon. Friend has considered this proposal with great care, but is not proposing to make any changes.

Iron And Steel Holding And Realisation Agency (New Appointments)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make an announcement about the future membership of the Iron and Steel Holding and Realisation Agency.

Yes. Three members of the Agency will be retiring when their present appointments expire on 9th August. To fill their places I have invited Mr. P. C. Allen, a Deputy Chairman of Imperial Chemical Industries Ltd., and Mr. Michael Milne-Watson, C.B.E., Chairman of the North Thames Gas Board, to accept appointment as members of the Agency. The retiring members are Mr. A. C. Bull and Sir Thomas Chadwick, K.C.V.O., C.B.E., both of whom have served with the Agency since its inception in 1953, and Sir Thomas Frazer, C.B.E., who has been a member of the Agency since 1955. I should like to take this opportunity of recording the Government's appreciation of the great value of the services which the retiring members have given to the Government during their time with the Agency.

Southern Rhodesia

Independence

33.

asked the First Secretary of State what proposals he has made, in the course of discussions on Southern Rhodesian independence to the Prime Minister of Southern Rhodesia for a lowering of qualifications for African voters and an increase in African Parliamentary seats; and what reply he has received.

37.

asked the First Secretary of State whether he has discussed definite terms for Southern Rhodesia's independence with the Prime Minister of Southern Rhodesia.

I have nothing to add to the reply I gave the hon. Member for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe) on 25th July.

Government Departments

Social Research Units

34.

asked the First Secretary of State what representations he has received requesting him to ask the Heyworth Committee to consider the need for a social research unit to be attached to various Government Departments; and what reply he has sent.

I have received a letter on this point signed by the hon. Members for Stoke-on-Trent (Dr. Stross), Willesden, West (Mr. Pavitt), Lanark (Mrs. Hart) and Edmonton (Mr. Albu). I have referred this letter to Lord Heyworth and I have informed the hon. Members concerned.

Northern Rhodesia

Western Provinces (Disturbances)

35.

asked the First Secretary of State when he expects that the report of the commission of inquiry into the disturbances in the western Province of Northern Rhodesia will be available; and if he will publish it as a White Paper.

I expect the report in about three or four weeks. As I said in reply to the hon. Member for Chigwell (Mr. Biggs-Davison) on 25th July, I will make the Commission's findings available at the appropriate time.

Nyasaland

Incident, Blantyre

36.

asked the First Secretary of State if police investigations into the incident at Blantyre, Nyasaland, when three Europeans, including two children, were assaulted by eight Malawi police, members of Dr. Banda's bodyguard, have been completed; and with what result.

I understand that the persons concerned have failed to identify the culprits and have decided to drop the case. I have asked the Governor to keep me informed of further developments.

Barotseland

Litunga

asked the First Secretary of State when he expects to have further constitutional talks with the Government of the Litunga of Barotseland.

As was stated in the agreed communiqué which I circulated in the Official Report on 29th July, talks are to be arranged between the Northern Rhodesia Government and the Barotse Native Government. These will take place under the auspices of Her Majesty's Government. The date and place of these talks have still to be settled.

Home Department

Homosexuality

38.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will state the number of offences against boys reported to the police in the last available year and the number of cases in which prosecutions were instituted; and if he will give the corresponding figures for 1950.

3,278 indictable homosexual offences against boys aged under 16 were known to the police in England and Wales in 1962; of these, 2,245 were dealt with by prosecution, and the number of persons prosecuted was 1,303. Corresponding figures for 1950 are not available. In addition, 164 persons were prosecuted in 1962 under the Indecency with Children Act, 1960, for offences with boys aged under 14.

Protection Money

39.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the results of the action taken by the Metropolitan Police against protection rackets in London.

The Metropolitan Police have recently investigated a number of cases in which it was alleged that money for protection had been demanded from proprietors of various premises, and several convictions have been obtained.

Dr Stephen Ward

40.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by whose authority the Governor of Brixton Prison refused to allow Dr. Stephen Ward to identify his pictures.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the right hon. Member for Easington (Mr. Shinwell) on 26th June.

Magistrates' Courts (Bail)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation requiting magistrates to grant automatically applications for bail which are not opposed by the prosecution.

44.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation requiring magistrates to grant bail to all those whose applications are not opposed by the prosectuion.

No. My right hon. Friend does not think that it would be right to make the prosecution the arbiter in this way.

Betting Shops

43.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now give figures of the total number of licensed betting shops registered in England, Wales and Scotland as at 1st June this year.

I regret that the complete figures are not yet available. They will be published as soon as possible.

Prisoners (Notification Of Relatives)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what arrangements are made for the families of those remanded in custody or convicted and sent to prison to be informed.

All prisoners on remand are allowed immediate and ample facilities for communicating by letter with their family and friends. All convicted and sentenced prisoners are allowed to write and receive a letter on reception into prison after sentence. When a person under the age of 21 years is received under sentence the Governor or Warden at once informs the next of kin in writing of the conviction and sentence.

Morning Glory

46.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that the plant Morning Glory, Ipomoea purpurea, growing in Great Britain, possesses as a property of its seeds a mental poison which is a potential drug of addiction; and whether he will make an investigation, with a view to taking steps to prevent the use of this drug.

I am aware that reports have appeared in the Press that the seeds of Morning Glory grown in North America have been found to contain a hallucinogenic drug. There is no evidence that seeds of this plant sold in this country contain the drug, but I am making further inquiries.

Sheffield Constabulary (Inquiry)

47.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has considered the request made to him by the Sheffield Trades and Labour Council for an official inquiry into the Sheffield Police Force; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

The Sheffield Trades and Labour Council informed me in a letter dated 13th June that it wished to add its support to the demand for an official inquiry. Their letter was acknowledged. I have accepted notice of appeal under the Police (Appeals) Act from two ex-constables in the Sheffield Constabulary, and any question of a further inquiry must be deferred until these two appeals have been determined.

Traffic Wardens

48.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why there were seven traffic wardens in a one hundred yards stretch of Charlotte Street at 1.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 17th July; how many traffic wardens there are in London; what is their average weekly take-home wage; and whether he will reduce the number of wardens by 50 per cent., and provide them all with bicycles.

In Charlotte Street there are four traffic warden beats. The wardens work in two shifts and there is a period of overlap in the middle of the day when two wardens may be seen on each beat. In the Metropolitan Police District there are at present 420 traffic wardens. Their average take-home pay for a typical week in July was £11 13s.2d. (£13 1s. 10d. gross). The Commissioner of Police sees no advantage, in the congested central area of London, in providing wardens with bicycles, and no scope for any reduction in numbers.

Armed Robbery

49.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he proposes to take to halt the increase of crimes of armed violence to which his attention has been drawn by the Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police in his report.

The increase to which the Commissioner drew attention was in armed robbery, for which the maximum penalty is life imprisonment. I think there is no doubt, therefore, that the courts have ample powers to deal with those who are convicted of this offence. I am satisfied also that the Commissioner is doing everything he can to counter the increase, which must cause serious concern to all who have to do with the preservation of law and order.

Drug Peddling, North London

50.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that a teenage boy and girl were found unconscious on a bus at Finsbury Park having taken Drinamyl tablets; what information he has about drug-peddling in North London; and whether the Metropolitan Police have been able to track down the source of supply.

Yes. My right hon. Friend is gravely concerned about the abuse of this and other similar drugs. He has no reason to think that the situation in North London differs from that in other parts of the Metropolitan area. The drugs taken by the boy and girl in question were obtained from casual acquaintances whom it has not been possible to identify.

Prison Escapes, 1962

51.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many escapes took place from Her Majesty's prisons during 1962; what cost was involved in recapture; and what pro portions of the cost were borne by his department and by local authorities, respectively.

42 men and three women escaped from closed prisons during 1962, and 127 men and one woman from open prisons. 80 men and four women absconded from outside working parties or from parole. I regret that figures for the cost of recapture are not available.

Wounding And Assault Cases

52.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the Metropolitan Commissioner of Police's report for 1962 that cases of wounding have shown a steady increase for the past seven years, numbering 2,991 against only 769 in 1938. and that total offences against the person have risen from 1,679 to 5,325 in the same years, what are the reasons for this steady in crease in crime; and if he will re-introduce corporal punishment for crimes of violence for an experimental five-year period.

The figures which my hon. Friend gives for "wounding" are those for "wounding and assault". The reasons for the increase of crime are complex, and cannot be adequately summarised in reply to a Question. On the subject of corporal punishment there is nothing I can add to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend on 4th April.

Legal Aid

53.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that it took his Department eight months to arrive at a decision on a petition by a prisoner, of whose identity he has been informed, seeking legal aid in the preparation of an appeal, and that the decision was communicated to the prisoner four months after the appeal had been disposed of; and if he will expedite sympathetic consideration of the same prisoner's present petition for legal aid in the preparation and issue of a writ of habeas corpus.

The petition referred to in the first part of the Question sought my aid in obtaining from the Court of Criminal Appeal a copy of the transcript of this prisoner's trial. A free copy of the transcript was granted to him by the court two months after the date of his petition and before his appeal had been disposed of. The prisoner's wish thus having been met in good time, I much regret that a formal reply to the petition was not sent until nearly five months later. The prisoner's recent application for permission to seek legal aid has been granted.

54.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps it is proposed to take to implement the recommendations of the Working Party on Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings.

The last of the immediate amendments to Regulations arising from the two reports of the Working Party have been made and will be published shortly. The suggestions on practice have been brought to the notice of those concerned. I am considering the recommendation that there should be a general review.

Child Care Officers

55.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many child care officers are at present employed by the local authorities; to what extent there is a shortage of trained persons for these posts; how many local authorities have schemes for training child care officers; and which they are.

There are about 1,600 child care officers in post and about half of these have no formal qualifications. Courses for the training of child care officers are provided by universities in co-operation with the Central Training Council in Child-Care, and the majority of local authorities provide facilities for the practical training of students on these courses.

Judges' Rules (Review)

56.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the Committee of High Courts judges appointed to review the Judges' Rules has yet reported; and when the contents of the report will be made public.

As I informed the hon. Member for Islington, East (Mr. Fletcher) on 23rd May, I understand that it is hoped that the review now being carried out by the judges will be completed by the end of the year. Any revision of the Rules will no doubt receive the same measure of publicity as the existing Rules have done.

Standing Order No 5 (C) (1)

57.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied that there is uniformity in the interpretation of Standing Order No. 5 (c) (1) governing communications by prisoners with Members of Parliament; and if he will make a statement.

It is certainly my belief that the Order is administered consistently. If the hon. Member has any information to the contrary I will at once investigate it.

Drunkenness (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will publish the annual official statistics on drunkenness; and if he will make a statement.

The White Paper on Offences of Drunkenness for 1962 in England and Wales is being published today (Cmnd. 2102). The number of offences proved was 83,992, an increase of 12½ per cent. over 1961. This continues an upward trend over the last eleven years. There is, fortunately, a fall of 8 per cent. in the number of convictions of persons under 18.

To investigate further the reasons for the increase I have arranged, in association with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland, for an inquiry based on police records and experience to be carried out by the Social Survey Division of the Central Office of Information. The main object of the inquiry will be to throw light on the nature of behaviour leading to convictions of drunkenness, and any special characteristics of the people involved. It is planned to ascertain what effect changes in the behaviour of particular groups of people are having on drunkenness convictions, and to examine other factors which may have a bearing on the problem.

Protection Of Citizens And Property, London

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he is taking to enable the police in the Metropolitan area to be more actively concerned with the protection of private citizens and their property.

One of the main purposes of the Metropolitan police is to protect citizens and their property, and the Commissioner of Police is most actively concerned with this. Crime prevention measures have been much extended in recent years, and the most effective use of police manpower is constantly under review. Civilians are being employed in increasing numbers to release police officers for other duties.

James Hanratty

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the new evidence contained in the memorandum submitted to him by the hon. Member for Eton and Slough, he will authorise a public inquiry into matters relating to the execution of James Hanratty for the murder of Michael Gregston.

I understand that the House is to debate this matter tomorrow. In these circumstances I would ask the hon. Member to await the debate.

Burglary, London

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in how many cases of burglary in the Metropolitan Police area in the last six months the culprits have been caught; what per- centage of the total number of reported cases this represents; and in how many instances the stolen goods have been recovered and subsequently returned to their owners.

From 1st January to 30th June, 1963, 200 persons were arrested for burglary in the Metropolitan Police District, which represents 32.5 per cent. of reported cases. Property was stolen in 471 cases; in 106 of these, all or part of the property was recovered.

Coal

Concessionary Coal

58.

asked the Minister of Power whether, in the public interest, he will issue a general direction to the National Coal Board requiring the right of concessionary coal to employees to be withdrawn and a suitable adjustment in wage rates to be negotiated in lieu.

No, sir. This is a matter for agreement between the National Coal Board and the unions.

Coal And Coke (Packaging)

59.

asked the Minister of Power what action he proposes to take following the report of the overcharging on packed fuel in the Annual Report of the Domestic Coal Consumers' Council.

I am considering the Council's suggestion that the gas boards and other packers should mark their bags with the recommended retail price and other information.

Ministry Of Power

Electricity Sub-Station, Catsfield

60.

asked the Minister of Power if he is aware of local anxiety regarding the proposal of the Central Electricity Generating Board to erect a sub-station in Potman's Lane, Catsfield, of which notice was not given at the recent planning inquiry; and if he will order an inquiry under Section 34(3) of the Electricity Act, 1957, into this proposal.

The Board said at the inquiry that a sub-station would be needed in this area if a route south of Battle were chosen for the overhead lines. Any inquiry would be a matter for my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government.

Commonwealth Relations

Migration

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations whether he will consider schemes for Commonwealth migration submitted direct or through the Oversea Migration Board by Commonwealth authorities and private bodies.

I have powers under the Commonwealth Settlement Acts to co operate with Commonwealth authorities and private bodies, among others, in the formulation and carrying out of emigration schemes. The Oversea Migration Board was appointed to advise me on proposals put forward for such schemes.

Permanent Under-Secretary Of State (Speech)

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations whether the speech made on 11th July in his official capacity by the Permanent Under-Secretary of State of his Department to the Women's Migration and Overseas Appointments Society was made with his authority.

Commonwealth Arts Festival

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what financial support will be given by Her Majesty's Government to the 1965 Commonwealth Arts Festival.

I am considering with my colleagues the request which I have received for financial support from those concerned and hope to let them have the Government's view on the matter in the near future.

Educational Institutions (Building Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what plans he has for extending to other Commonwealth countries the grants for building educational institutions at present being made to Nigeria.

None. A number of other newly independent Commonwealth countries are still receiving gifts for higher education as part of their independence settlements.

Sierra Leone

Development Projects (Discussions)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations if he will make a statement on the recent discussions with the Government of Sierra Leone on development projects in Sierra Leone.

My hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations had discussions between 8th and 10th July with the Sierra Leone Ministers of Finance and Development. Views were exchanged on a number of development projects. The Ministers are reporting to their colleagues proposals made to them by the British Government, and I am awaiting the Sierra Leone Government's reply.

Nigeria

Constitution

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations when Her Majesty's Government propose to introduce legislation consequent on the declared state of the Federal Government of Nigeria to become a Republic with the Commonwealth.

The Prime Minister of the Federal Government of Nigeria has stated that it is the intention of his Government that Nigeria shall become a Republic on or about 1st October, 1963. It will, in the circumstances, be necessary for legislation to be enacted here to secure that the operation of United Kingdom law in relation to Nigeria will not be affected once the Republic ceases to be part of Her Majesty's dominions. But the Nigerian Federal Government have not yet informed Her Majesty's Government of the precise form which the republican constitution will take. Her Majesty's Government have therefore decided that it will be necessary to defer the proposed legislation until the next session of Parliament, and then to introduce it in retro-active form. This would be in line with the procedure followed in respect of the Ireland Act, 1949.

Tanganyika

International School, Dar-Es-Salaam

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what financial help Her Majesty's Government are giving to encourage the establishment of an International School in Dar-es-Salaam.

I am impressed by the efforts which have been made to raise the capital required to launch this scheme. Subject to the approval of Parliament, Her Majesty's Government propose to assist the project by making a once for all grant of £6,000 as a contribution to the initial capital expenses. Parliament will be asked in due course to vote the necessary Supplementary Estimate. In the meantime, an advance is being sought from the Civil Contingencies Fund.

Education

Curriculum Study Group

64.

asked the Minister of Education what progress is being made by the Curriculum Study Group; and if he will make a statement.

During the past year the Group have been assisting the Secondary School Examinations Council to establish the new Certificate of Secondary Education examinations. Some of the results of this collaboration will be made generally available in the autumn, when my right hon. Friend expects to publish on the Council's behalf their Seventh Report, on the scope and standards of the Certificate of Secondary Education examinations, and the first of a new series of Examinations Bulletins containing suggestions for teachers and Certificate of Secondary Education examiners. The Group are also collaborating with the Nuffield Foundation in their projects for the improvement of science and mathematics teaching, are helping to organise the pilot scheme for foreign language teaching in the primary schools for which the Foundation are sponsoring the preparation of teaching materials, and are planning an inquiry into the content of the secondary school curriculum. They are also concerned with the proposal now under discussion to form an advisory body concerned with schools' curriculum and examinations, and will be providing professional assistance to the reconstituted Central Advisory Council in their study of primary education under the chairmanship of Lady Plowden.

Technical College, Llandaff (Teaching Facilities)

65.

asked the Minister of Education if he is satisfied that the teaching facilities of the Llandaff Technical College will permit the entry of all those prospective students who are qualified for enrolment; and what steps he pro poses to take to improve them.

Teaching facilities at this college are likely to be taxed in the coming session, but, with the use of some temporary accommodation, it is anticipated that all suitably qualified students can be enrolled. Work on the first instalment valued at £85,000 of a new college of Further Education to serve the eastern part of the city and to remove these pressures is due to start in the current financial year. The second, and main, instalment, valued at £238,000, has been included in the building programme for 1964–65.

Educational Psychologists

66.

asked the Minister of Education of he will publish in HANSARD a table showing how many educational psychologists are employed by each local education authority; how many local education authorities have schemes for the training of educational psychologists; and which they are.

I am circulating in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the number of educationalpsychologists, expressed as a full-time equivalent, who were employed in the school health services of local education authorities in January, 1963.Training in educational psychology is given at approved centres in universities and hospitals to which local education authorities may second suitably qualified teachers. For most authorities regular schemes of secondment would be impracticable, but I understand that the Lancashire authority has such a scheme.Following is the table:

FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT NUMBER OF EDUCATIONAL PSYCHOLOGISTS EMPLOYEE IN THE SCHOOL HEALTH SERVICES OF LOCAL EDUCATION AUTHORITIES IN JANUARY, 1963
Local Education AuthorityEmployed other than in Child Guidance ClinicsEmployed in Child Guidance ClinicsTotal
ENGLISH COUNTIES
Bedfordshire2·002·00
Berkshire3·003·00
Buckinghamshire3·603·60
Cambridgeshire1·001·00
Cheshire3·503·50
Cornwall2·700·303·00
Cumberland0·500·50
Derbyshire2·502·50
Devon6·006·00
Dorset0·500·50
Durham10·0010·00
Essex10·9010·90
Gloucestershire1·002·503·50
Hampshire1·331·33
Herefordshire1·001·00
Hertfordshire6·006·00
Huntingdonshire1·001·00
Isle of Ely1·001·00
Isle of Wight Isles of Scilly0·200·20
Kent10·9010·90
Lancashire5·185·18
Leicestershire2·002·00
Lines—Holland0·360·36
Lines—Kesteven1·001·00
Lines—Lindsey1·001·00
Middlesex21·0221·02
Norfolk0·300·30
Northamptonshire1·201·20
Northumberland1·001·00
Nottinghamshire1·361·36
Oxfordshire1·501·50
Peterborough Jt. Education Board
Rutland
Shropshire2·002·00
Somerset4·004·00
Staffordshire0·603·404·00
Suffolk, East1·501·50
Suffolk, West1·001·00
Surrey14·0014·00
Sussex, East3·003·00
Sussex, West0·660·66
Warwickshire2·002·00
Westmorland0·100·10
Wiltshire1·501·503·00
Worcestershire1·001·00
Yorks, East Riding
Yorks, North Riding2·002·00
Yorks, West Riding2·002·00
London11·408·5019·90
Local Education AuthorityEmployed other than in Child Guidance ClinicsEmployed in Child Guidance ClinicsTotal
ENGLISH COUNTY BOROUGHS
Barnsley
Barrow-in-Furness1·001·00
Bath1·001·00
Birkenhead0·03†0·03
Birmingham6·006·00
Blackburn
Blackpool2·002·00
Bolton1·001·00
Bootle
Bournemouth2·002·00
Bradford1·001·00
Brighton
Bristol3·002·975·97
Burnley1·001·00
Burton-upon-Trent0·100·10
Bury0·200·20
Canterbury1·001·00
Carlisle1·001·00
Chester
Coventry3·403·40
Croydon
Darlington1·001·00
Derby1·001·00
Dewsbury1·001·00
Doncaster2·002·00
Dudley0·100·10
Eastbourne0·500·50
East Ham2·002·00
Exeter0·600·401·00
Gateshead
Gloucester*
Great Yarmouth
Grimsby1·001·00
Halifax1·001·00
Hastings0·500·50
Huddersfield1·001·00
Ipswich
Kingston-upon-Hull0·500·50
Leeds2·002·00
Leicester3·003·00
Lincoln0·500·50
Liverpool2·002·00
Manchester6·006·00
Middlesbrough1·001·00
Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Northampton0·800·80
Norwich2·002·00
Nottingham0·400·40
Oldham0·200·801·00
Oxford1·001·00
Plymouth0·500·50
Portsmouth4·004·00
Preston1·001·00
Reading1·001·00
Rochdale
Rotherham1·001·00
St. Helens0·500·50
Salford1·001·00
*Shared services with Gloucestershire.
†Employed under arrangements made with Regional Hospital Boards.
Local Education AuthorityEmployed other than in Child Guidance ClinicsEmployed in Child Guidance ClinicsTotal
ENGLISH COUNTY BOROUGHS—cont.
Sheffield6·006·00
Smethwick
Southampton2·002·00
Southend-on-Sea1·001·00
Southport0·500·501·00
South Shields1·001·00
Stockport1·001·00
Stoke-on-Trent1·001·00
Sunderland2·002·00
Tynemouth
Wakefield0·700·70
Wallasey0·400·40
Walsall*
Warrington0·600·60
West Bromwich1·001·00
West Ham2·002·00
West Hartlepool
Wigan
Wolverhampton1·001·00
Worcester
York1·001·00
WALES
Anglesey0·04†0·04
Breconshire
Caernarvonshire0·180·18
Cardiganshire0·500·50
Carmarthenshire0·200·20
Denbighshire0·380·270·65
Flintshire0·30†0·30
Glamorgan0·450·45
Merioneth0·200·20
Monmouthshire0·400·40
Montgomeryshire
Pembrokeshire0·180·18
Radnorshire
Cardiff0·400·40
Merthyr Tydfil1·001·00
Newport (Mon.)1·001·00
Swansea1·001·00
Totals36·48226·23262·71
*Staff of West Bromwich C. G. S. attend Walsall clinic 2 sessions weekly.
†Employed under arrangements with Regional Hospital Boards.

Principal Medical Officer (Statement)

asked the Minister of Education whether it was with his authority that the principal medical officer to his Department made a statement on 29th July at Cambridge concerning pre-marital relations.

asked the Minister of Education whether the statement on pre-marital sexual promiscuity made by his principal medical officer in a speech at Selwyn College, Cambridge, on 29th July was made with his authority.

asked the Minister of Education whether the statement about sexual promiscuity made by the principal medical officer of his Department, Dr. Henderson, at Selwyn College, Cambridge, on 29th July, was made with his authority.

asked the Minister of Education whether the speech of the principal medical officer to the Ministry of Education, made in his official capacity at Cambridge on 29th July, 1963, was made with his authority.

asked the Minister of Education whether it was with his authority that the principal medical officer to his Department made a public speech at Cambridge on 29th July on the subject of pre-marital relationships.

asked the Minister of Education if the speech by the principal medical officer to the Ministry of Education, at a conference on 29th July on health education at Cambridge, was made with his authority.

asked the Minister of Education whether he authorised the speech of his principal school medical officer to a conference of teachers on 29th July, 1963, on the subject of fornication.

asked the Minister of Education whether the speech of the principal medical officer to the Ministry of Education, made in his official capacity at Cambridge on 29th July, on the subject of pre-marital relations, was made with his authority.

asked the Minister of Education whether the speech of his principal medical officer to the Central Health Council at Cambridge on 29th July, on the subject of pre-marital sexual relations, was made with his authority.

asked the Minister of Education whether the speech of the principal medical officer to the Ministry of Education, on 29th July, 1963, at Cambridge, on the subject of pre-marital relationships, was made with his authority.

At the close of a mainly factual address at a seminar on health education on 29th July my Principal Medical Officer said that promiscuity either before or during wedlock could not be condoned but drew a distinction between promiscuity and pre-marital relations between engaged couples. These statements expressed his personal view.I am sending the hon. Members a copy of the relevant portion of the address.

Non-State Schools (Inspection Of Pupils)

asked the Minister of Education what is the number of pupils in non-state schools inspected by his Department; and what was the number five years ago.

Following is the information:

Number of pupils in non-maintained schools in January
19581963
Direct grant schools112,865123,709
Independent schools recognised as efficient281,394303,786
Other independent schools223,776179,857
Total618,035607,352

University Teachers, Africa (Fellowship Schemes)

asked the Minister of Education why the United Kingdom is refusing to participate in the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation Fellowship Scheme for university teachers from Africa.

A number of fellowship schemes are already available to teachers, or potential teachers, in African universities who wish to study in this country, and Her Majesty's Government thought it best not to diversify the United Kingdom effort.

School Dentists, Nottingham

asked the Minister of Education if he is aware that a large proportion of the schoolchildren of Nottingham is not receiving regular dental inspection and treatment; and what steps he is taking to deal with this situation.

Yes. One of my dental officers visited the city in April. He reported that more dentists are needed and that the authority had been trying for some time to recruit them.

Sex Education

asked the Minister of Education what advice he has given to schools on the subject of teaching about pre-marital sexual relationships.

I am sending to my hon. Friend a copy of Ministry of Education pamphlet No. 31, entitled Health Education, Chapter 6 of which deals with sex education.

Local Government

South-East England (Regional Study)

67.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs when he will make a statement about the official inquiry into the population, planning and industrial requirements of South-East England.

Work on the Regional Study for South-East England is proceeding in the Department, and I hope that the results will become available later this year.

Water Charges (Sub-Committee Report)

68.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what action he proposes to take to implement the Report of the Sub-Committee on Water Charges.

The report is under consideration. My right hon. Friend regrets that he has not been able to make a statement on it before the Recess. He will do so as soon as he can.

Rate Deficiency Grants

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will now make a further statement about the Government's intention to limit the Exchequer's liability for rate deficiency grant.

The increase in rate deficiency grants due to the revaluation has, as my hon. Friend knows, turned out to be considerably smaller than had been estimated and I can now tell him that the Government have no proposals for legislation to deal with this.It remains the Government's view that the amount distributed by way of these grants should not be subject to sudden variations, upwards or down wards, on account of changes in rate resources such as occur on a general revaluation. I intend to discuss with representatives of local authorities ways of limiting future variations in the total of the grants due to such changes.

Water Boards (Accounts)

70.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will take steps to require water boards to publish their annual accounts in such a way as to be available for public inspection.

Water boards subject to district audit are required to make their accounts available for public inspection at the annual audit. Most boards are required to send an annual abstract of accounts to each of the constituent councils. My right hon. Friend is considering whether anything more is needed.

Refuse Disposal

71.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he is aware that the powers given to local authorities under the Public Health Act, 1961, and the Litter Act, 1958, are in sufficient to enable them to remove all kinds of refuse, including car bodies and scrap metal, which are being dumped in increasing quantities all over the country; and what proposals he has to remedy this situation.

In addition to the powers mentioned by my hon. and gallant Friend there is Section 74 of the Public Health Act, 1936, which enables local authorities to dispose of refuse on request; I am advised that this provision is wide enough to include car bodies and scrap metal. If my hon. and gallant Friend cares to submit any evidence that the present provisions are inadequate my right hon. Friend will gladly consider it.

Electricity Sub-Station, Catsfield

72.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what proposals he has for holding a planning inquiry to enable local opinion to be expressed about the site for the proposed sub-station to be erected by the Central Electricity Generating Board in Potman's Lane, Catsfield.

None, I understand that the Battle Rural District Council decided on 25th July that, subject to agreement on the widening of Potman's Lane, it would be prepared to grant permission for this proposal. Before reaching this decision the council took into account objections by local residents and it intends to attach conditions to the permission designed to safeguard the amenities of the area. The decision to allow this development is well within the competence of the council and my right hon. Friend sees no ground for taking the matter out of its hands.

County Of Rutland

74.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will make a statement on the future of the county of Rutland.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement I made after Questions today.

Sewage Disposal, Onneley

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs when the honourable Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme may expect a reply to his letter of 8th April about sewage disposal at Onneley, stating what action is being taken as a result of the inspector's visit to Onneley on 22nd May.

I replied on 2nd May to the hon. Member's letter telling him of the inspector's visit to Onneley. At that visit proposals emerged which are now under examination, and I hope to be able to inform the hon. Member of the result shortly.

Aluminium Industry (Sodium Fluoride Waste)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what regulations he has made to govern the disposal of waste sodium fluoride from the aluminium industry.

Housing

Land, Sunderland

73.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what action he is taking to ensure that the corporation of Sunderland have sufficient land to continue their housing programme at its present rate.

I am at present considering various planning proposals to give Sunderland enough land for its future housing programme and hope to announce my decision in the near future.

Trade And Commerce

Advance Factory, Crook

75.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will make a statement on the taking over by a tenant of the advance factory in Crook, County Durham, now nearing completion.

A tenant has not yet been found for this factory but we are continuing to bring it to the attention of suitable firms.

Ayr Chamber Of Commerce (Letter)

76.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what reply he has sent to the Ayr Chamber of Commerce in response to its letter of 11th July regarding the unemployment situation in Ayr and district.

I am sending my hon. Friend a copy of the reply sent to the Ayr Chamber of Commerce in response to their letter of 11th July.

Computers (Exports)

77.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the value of exports of computers during the past 12 months.

This information is available from page 293 of the July, 1963, issue of the Trade and Navigation Accounts which is a document returned to the Order of the House.

Jute Industry

78.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will now make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's proposals for the jute industry.

No. I am not in a position to make a statement today, but I hope to make one shortly.

Development Districts

79.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what the average cost to the Exchequer per head is estimated to be in respect of those employed in new industry commenced under the Local Employment Act in development districts in Scotland, Wales and the north-east coast, respectively.

The average cost was £1,277 in Scotland, £854 in Wales and £595 in the North-East.

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many jobs have been created in each of the past three years, and how many are in prospect, as a result of special measures which Her Majesty's Government has taken to reduce unemployment in development districts in Scotland, Wales and on the North-East coast, respectively.

The following table sets out the number of jobs estimated to arise in projects assisted under that Act in each of the three full financial years for which the Local Employment Act has been in force. I cannot say how many of these jobs have already arisen.

12 months endedScotlandWalesN.E. England
31st March, 196112,4005,7002,800
31st March, 196213,1002,8003,400
31st March, 19637,8007008,000
Totals33,3009,20014,200

asked the President of the Board of Trade what further changes he will make in the list of development districts in the North-East of England.

Yes. As my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister hasindicated in his statement about the North-East of England, I am adding to the list of development districts the employment exchange areas of Durham, Birtley and Washington Station. In view of the way the travel-to-work patterns have been developing, my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour has come to the conclusion that Birtley should now be regarded as part of a group with the existing development districts of Chester-le-Street and Houghton-le-Spring and Washington Station be regarded as part of the Sunderland group.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what further changes he will make in the list of development districts in Scotland.

Yes. As my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has indicated in his statement about Central Scotland, I am adding to the list of development districts the Falkirk Group (which comprises the employment exchange areas of Bonnybridge, Falkirk and Grangemouth) and the employment exchange areas of Linlithgow and Bo'ness. In view of the way the travel-to-work patterns have been developing in those areas my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour has come to the conclusion that these areas should now be regarded as one for the purposes of calculating a realistic unemployment percentage.

Factory, Barnsley

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has studied the representations made to him by Barnsley Corporation concerning W. Fraser and Company Limited at Monk Bretton, Barnsley, who are planning to cease activities; and what reply he has sent.

The Barnsley Corporation has made certain representations about this factory to the Board of Trade Controller at Leeds. He has told the Town Clerk that, subject to the overriding needs of the development districts, the Board of Trade will do what it can to assist the Ministry of Aviation, which owns the factory, to find a new tenant.

Command Paper No 2105

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will take action in conjunction with the Departments and authorities concerned to formulate definite proposals for legislation on bank holiday changes and earlier summer and General Certificate of Education exami- nation times as outlined in the White Paper on Staggered Holidays;(2) if he will make recommendations for action on staggered holidays, after he has taken into consideration not only public reaction to Command Paper No. 2105, but also the latest reports for 1963 of traffic and other holiday congestion, especially in the holiday areas in south-west England; and by when he expects to be able to announce such recommendations.

If public reaction to the White Paper continues to be favourable, I would propose to arrange in the autumn for consultations with the organisations concerned about how the White Paper could most effectively be followed up. I would expect that these consultations would cover all the remedial measures discussed in the White Paper. Most of these measures would not require legislation.

Cotton Textiles (Categorisation Of Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has considered the request of the cotton industry for the categorisation of low-priced imports; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. The Government are satisfied that a reasonable measure of categorisation is desirable and justified to prevent price disruption in the home market for cotton textiles. I do not believe that the present state of affairs is satisfactory either for our own industry or for the exporting countries whose need to earn sterling I recognise as of the highest importance. I am accordingly very glad to welcome the expressed intention of the Indian cotton textile industry to enter into early discussions with their British opposite numbers about the categorisation of imports. Officials from both Governments will be present at these talks.

"Room To Expand"

asked the President of the Board of Trade when the brochure, "Room to Expand", will be ready for publication.

The revision version of the brochure "Room to Expand" which has been prepared by my Department and the Central Office of Information will be published on 27th August. It describes the financial assistance available to companies setting up in any of the development districts, and separate sections deal with the facilities available in each of the areas of high unemployment. It is a substantial publication, containing maps of the areas, and photographs illustrating a wide range of industry, services and amenities of all kinds.The publication of "Room to Expand" is part of the Government's efforts to encourage industry to establish projects in the areas of high unemployment, and I am sure that companies will find the information in this brochure helpful in their planning. Copies will be available free of charge from the Board of Trade in London, or from any of the Board's Regional Offices and Offices for Scotland and Wales.

Ministry Of Aviation

Skyvan Aircraft

80.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he has now received the advice of the Transport Aircraft Requirements Committee as to the development of the Skyvan light freighter; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has been informed of the views of the Transport Aircraft Requirements Committee. He is also considering the other factors which have a bearing on the future of this project. He expects to reach a decision shortly.

Factory, Barnsley

asked the Minister of Aviation if he is aware of the intention of W. Fraser and Company Limited of Monk Bretton, Barnsley, to vacate the premises rented to them by his department, and that the rental charged has been subject to criticism by the Barnsley Council's Trade and Commerce Development Committee; and if he will take steps to review this factory space with the object of lowering the rental and thereby giving encouragement to potential industrialists.

W. Fraser and Co., Ltd. have intimated that they intend to vacate the factory at Monk Bretton which is leased to them by my Department, but they have not yet given formal notice to do so. As soon as their intentions are clear we shall endeavour to sell the factory, or failing this, to lease it. The present rental was negotiated freely in 1957 and was presumably considered by the firm at that time to be fair and reasonable. If the premises are leased, the rental will also be determined by negotiation and the District Valuer will have regard to prevailing conditions in the area.

Hobart Radio Equipment

asked the Minister of Aviation what is the total value of contracts so far placed for the Hobart radio equipment, specifying the percentage gained by the Plessey Company compared to the other contractors.

The estimated value of the contracts mentioned in the reply which I gave to the hon. Member on 2nd July is £474,000. It is not the practice to give the value of contracts placed with individual firms.

asked the Minister of Aviation whether the Hobart radio system will be compatible with systems being developed by the United States of America or within the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Alliance.

Ayr County Council (Letters)

asked the Minister of Aviation what reply he has sent to the Ayr County Council in response to their suggestions sent to him about the future of Prestwick Airport and civil aerodromes generally.

I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to the County Council's letter of 28th June, 1963. A copy of my private secretary's reply was sent to him on 5th July, but in case it has gone astray I am sending him a further copy.

Ministry Of Health

Medical Research

81.

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the general concern in regard to medical experimentation on human beings; and what consultations he is now having with professional bodies with a view to formulating a code of guidance on this matter for doctors working in the National Health Service.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for St. Pancras, North on 5th November last.

Ophthalmic Services Committee, Middlesex

asked the Minister of Health if he is satisfied that the Ophthalmic Services Committee for Middlesex has sufficient staff for its operational requirements; and what is the average time it takes to deal with prescriptions.

Psychiatric Social Workers

asked the Minister of Health how many psychiatric social workers are at present employed by the local health authorities; to what extent there is a shortage of trained people; how many local health authorities have schemes for training psychiatric social workers; and which they are.

About 80 in England and Wales at the end of 1962; as regards requirements, I would refer the hon. Member to paragraph 155 of Command Paper 1973; training is provided by universities, not local health authorities.

Hospitals

Cheshire Joint Sanatorium

asked the Minister of Health when the hon. Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme may expect a reply to his letter of 10th June about certain housing matters affecting members of the staff of the Cheshire Joint Sanatorium.

Public Building And Works

Army Buildings, Aldershot

82.

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what was the cause of the collapse of one of the newly-erected mechanised Army build- ings in Aldershot; and what steps he is taking to prevent a repetition of such an occurrence.

The partly-completed structure of an officers mess building at Stanhope Lines, Aldershot, collapsed at about 10.30 p.m. on 21st July. I have asked for a full report from the firm of architects commissioned to design and supervise the scheme, and from the Building Research Station. When I have considered these reports I will take the action necessary.

Brunei

Sultan Of Brunei

83.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will make a statement about his recent talks with the Sultan of Brunei.

I have had a general exchange of views with the Sultan. Further discussions are taking place at official level. I hope to pay a short visit to Brunei towards the end of August.

Malta

Constitutional Conference

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will now make a statement on the Maltese Constitutional Conference.

Kenya

Constitution

84.

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether, in view of the recent and continuing assertions by Ministers of the Kenya African National Union party in the present Kenya Government that alterations will have to be made to the Lancaster House agreement, he will now reaffirm Her Majesty's Government's determination to maintain intact all the constitutional safeguards embodied in it with the agreement of all parties, at the forthcoming constitutional conference in September.

The British Government's position is that the independence Constitution for Kenya must contain effective safeguards to ensure that a proper balance between the centre and the regions is maintained. At the same time we shall be prepared to discuss such reasonable arguments as may be put forward which are consistent with our position.

Hong Kong

Women Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will state

Conditions of ServicePensionableTemporary
1. Salary ScalesMedical and Health Officers:$1690x110–1910*2740x120–3340*3580x120–3820 per month.Medical and Health Officers: $1575x75–1725*2055x90–2505*2685x90–2865 per month.
Senior Medical and Health Officers: $3940x120–4300 per month.*= efficiency barSenior Medical and Health Officers: $2955x90–3225 per month.*= efficiency bar
2. Medical and Dental attention.A woman doctor will be provided with free medical and dental attention for herself (charges are made for dentures and dental appliances and the cost of maintenance whilst in hospital).Same as pensionable staff.
3. Pension or Annual Allowance and/or Gratuity.Subject to completion of 10 years service a pension is payable to an officer holding a pensionable office (and who has been confirmed therein) on retirement, on grounds of age, or ill-health, or on abolition of office, subject to a maximum pension of two-thirds of 90 % of the highest salary drawn by the officer at any time during her service. Annual pension is 1/600th of 90 % of annual salary on retirement, actual or average as appropriate, for each completed month of pensionable service. A gratuity (calculated at 5 times the annual pension which would have been payable but for the 10 years rule) may be granted if the officer retires on account of age or ill-health before completion of 10 years service or (calculated at one twelfth of 90 % of a month's salary for each completed year of pensionable service, up to a maximum of 90 % of one year's salary) if a confirmed woman officer retires on marriage after completion of 5 years pensionable service. The normal age of retirement is 55, but retirement with benefits is permitted on certain conditions (or may be ordered) at any time after attaining the age of 45.An annual allowance is payable on retirement on grounds of age, ill-health or redundancy subject to completion of 10 years service. The annual allowance is calculated at 1/800th of 90 % of annual salary on retirement (actual or average as appropriate) for each completed month of service up to 25 years, with an addition thereto of 1/600th of such salary for each completed month of service in excess of 25 years. A gratuity (calculated on a similar basis to a pensionable officer's gratuity) may be granted to an officer retiring on account of age, ill-health or redundancy before completion of 10 years service. The normal age of retirement is 55.
4. LeaveLocal Officers
(1) Casual Leave:(1) Casual Leave:
Casual leave may be granted at the rate of 1 day for each completed calendar month of resident service.As for permanent officers.

the conditions of service for married and unmarried women doctors employed in the public service in Hong Kong.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 9th July, 1963; Vol. 680, c. 1027], supplied the following information:The conditions of service for married and unmarried women doctors employed in the public service in Hong Kong are as follows:

Conditions of Service

Pensionable

Temporary

4. Leave—cont.(2) Vacation Leave:(2) Vacation Leave:
Under 10 years service: 2 days for each completed calendar month of resident service. After 10 years service: 3 days for each completed month of resident service.Under 10 years service: Nil. Over 10 years service: 1 day for each completed calendar month of resident service.
(3) Maternity Leave:
Married women doctors are eliggible for maternity leave on full pay for up to twelve weeks for each of up to four confinements and on half pay for up to a further four.

Overseas Officers

As for local temporary officers.
(1) Casual Leave:
15 days for each completed 12 months of resident service.
(2) Vacation Leave:
56 days per year of resident service (if the officer is under the age of 40 unless she is over the age of 35 and with an aggregate of 10 years Colonial service) after 3½ years service or 78 days per year of resident service (if the officer has attained the age of 40 or is over the age of 35 with an aggregate of 10 years Colonial service) after 2½ years service.
5. QuartersQuarters are provided for all expatriate officers and local officers on a salary of $3940 per month or above and in cases where it is necessary for the officer to reside at her place of work. Officers are required to pay rent not exceeding 8 % of salary.Quarters are provided only in cases where it is necessary for the officer to reside at her place of work.

Roads M5

asked the Minister of Transport when the Bristol-Birmingham motorway, M.5, will be finished; and when the preliminaries will be completed to enable construction to start on the remaining mileage of the northern end thereof.

It is too early to say when the whole length of the M.5 motorway will be finshed; this will depend on completion of the remaining statutory processes and on the availability of funds. The motorway is being prepared and built in sections. That from Twyning to Lydiate Ash is already open and work is about to start on a six-mile extension northwards from Lydiate Ash to Quinton. This should be completed by the winter of 1965.My proposals for the sections of the 70-mile route southwards from Twyning have either already been published or will be published before the end of the year.I have recently made a scheme fixing the ten-mile route of the most northerly section, from Quinton to the M.6 junction at Great Barr, and I hope later this year to make proposals for consequential alterations to existing highways on this section.

Play Streets, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne

85.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that in confirming the Newcastle-upon-Tyne (Street Playgrounds) (No. 1) Order, 1963, he ignored the objections of nearly all of the residents of the three streets named in the order, namely, Queen's Terrace, Cavendish Place, and Devonshire Place; and why he did not order a public inquiry to inform himself of the full merits of the case, as he is empowered to do under Section 49(3) of the Road Traffic Act, 1960.

Residents frequently object to the creation of play streets. I rely upon the local authority to judge the balance of advantage in these conflicts of interest and I normally intervene only on traffic grounds. In practice the disturbance by children tends to be much less than is expected by the residents. In the circumstances I do not think a public inquiry justified.

Improvements And New Constructions

asked the Minister of Transport what is the year-by-year ex-

£ million
New construction and major improvementsMaintenance and Minor improvements
ExchequerLocal AuthorityTotalExchequerLocal AuthorityTotal
1945/460·60·30·98·320·829·1
1946/471·3l·22·518·722·941·6
1947/482·81·94·721·027·748·7
1948/492·72·65·317·527·244·7
1949/503·42·66·020·030·050·0
1950/513·72·66·318·930·249·1
1951/523·32·96·223·733·357·0
1952/533·72·66·325·834·760·5
1953/543·74·17·826·535·862·3
1954/554·34·79·029·538·668·1
1955/567·45·813·231·542·273·7
1956/5715·07·022·031·944·276·1
1957/5821·87·629·434·245·980·1
1958/5947·110·357·432·847·580·3
1959/6059·612·572·134·850·585·3
1960/6157·917·275·136·653·490·0
1961/6271·519·691·141·356·197·4
The figures in the table are based on returns made by local authorities shortly after the end of each financial year. The returns indicate the value of road works done in the year. Because, in some cases, Exchequer payments to local authorities are made in advance of the work to which they are appropriate, the figures given above for Exchequer expenditure are different from the figures given annually in the Appropriation Account for payments from the Exchequer.This series of figures is being brought onto a new basis, and I intend to produce a fresh series, slightly modified, next year.

A49 (Bromfield)

asked the Minister of Transport why no reply has been sent by his Department to two letters sent to him by the hon. Member for Ludlow on 27th June and 2nd July, concerning road and traffic conditions on the A.49 road at Bromfield, Shropshire.

penditure on roads in Great Britain since 1946 by central government and by local government on major improvements and new constructions, and on minor improvements and maintenance, respectively.

Elloughton Bypass

asked the Minister of Transport when he will announce the route of the proposed bypass of Elloughton. East Yorkshire.

A route which would be satisfactory on engineering grounds was surveyed over a year ago but, as my hon. Friend knows, there are agricultural objections to it and we are considering possible alternatives. There is still some investigation to be done, but I would hope to be able to publish a draft Order defining a route before the end of this year.

Traffic Conditions, South-West

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that the queues of motor vehicles on the roads in South-West England on Sunday, 28th July, totalled 40 miles long at noon and through the lunch hour; and what action he is taking to improve the roads in the South-West this year and in 1964.

I have seen a Press report to this effect. I am undertaking, or paying grant towards, a substantial number of schemes on the busiest roads in the South-West, notably the A.38, A.30 and A.380, and also on other roads which provide convenient alternative routes for holiday traffic. So long as holiday peaks remain as at present only a completely disproportionate expenditureon the roads affected would fully relieve congestion at these times.

Subway, Newcastle-Under-Lyme (A34)

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now given further consideration to the proposal for an additional subway in the A.34 road improvement scheme in Newcastle-under-Lyme; and if he will make a statement.

The hon. Member will know from my letter of 29th July that I have decided in favour of the additional subway.

Parking Meter Charges, London

asked the Minister of Transport what representations he has received from the motoring organisations about his proposal to increase parking meter charges in some parts of London; and what reply he has given.

I have received a letter from the Standing Joint Committee of the R.A.C., A.A. and R.S.A.C. This letter and the full reply which has been sent were in the following terms:16th July, 1963.The Secretary,Ministry of Transport,St. Christopher House,Southwark Street, S.E.I.Dear Sir,The motoring organisations are gravely concerned at last week's statement by the Minister of Transport that meter charges in the West End may be very substantially increased—possibly by as much as four-fold or more in the West End of London. Many 'phone calls and letters havebeen received by the motoring organisations from their members preponderantly protesting—often in the strongest possible terms—at such an excessive increase. There can be no justification for penalising law-abiding short-term parkers in order to deal with the problems caused by those who park for longer periods.It is much regretted that the Minister decided to make this announcement without prior consultation with the motoring organisations, thus departing from normal policy when important decisions affecting the interests of motorists are about to be taken.It is hoped that the Minister will be prepared to reconsider his proposals having regard to the strong feelings which they have aroused. To proceed on the basis announced last week would inevitably alienate the sympathies of a large section of the motoring public, whose co-operation is important in any plans to improve traffic conditions in London.Yours faithfully,D. R. GRAIG,A. J. A. LEE,Joint Secretaries.The Joint Secretaries,The Standing Joint Committee of the R.A.C., A.A. and R.S.A.C.,66 Whitcomb Street,London, W.C.2.31st July, 1963.Gentlemen,I am directed by the Minister of Transport to refer to your letter of 16th July about the proposals he announced recently, and explained in the booklet "Parking—the next stage", for making controlled parking schemes in London more effective and introducing control into new areas where it is needed.The Minister notes that your Committee have addressed themselves solely to one feature of his proposals, that is the proposed increase of some meter charges. He notes too that your Committee's comments seem to take no account of many of the considerations discussed in the booklet. He feels therefore that it would be helpful if I were to remind the Committee why the Minister considers these changes desirable.First, the increases would not be general throughout London. In fact, on the basis tentatively outlined in the booklet, rather less than half the meters in the London area would be increased in price; rather more than half would be left at the present prices or made cheaper.In the areas where an increase is proposed—that is roughly the West End, Holborn and the City of London—it is at present virtually impossible to find an empty parking bay through most of the day. The Minister has had many complaints about this. They come from a great variety of people, businessmen, commercial travellers, visitors to hospitals and so on. Many of them have incurred £2 penalties for parking illegally rather than miss important appointments. It is in their interest and the public interest that they should be able to find convenient short-term parking space near the places they want to visit. It is precisely in order to help these people that the Minister has proposed to increase charges in these areas.Studies have shown that one of the principal reasons why there is insufficient empty space is that some people, selfishly or thoughtlessly, are taking up more than a fair share of meter time. By meter feeding, or exchanging places ("musical meters") they deny the use of meters to many of the people for whom they were intended—the short-term parkers. Where space on the highway is limited and the demand high, it is clearly better—and in the general interest—for a parking bay to be occupied usefully by several people in the course of a day than for one to monopolise it for a good deal of the day. The availability of convenient short-term parking space is a positive aid to commercial life and a benefit to the community as a whole. The Minister's proposals are aimed at this end.The Minister recognises that there is a natural temptation for people to park on the highway for long periods if they can and that there is an obvious incentive to do so in the areas where the shortage of meter space is most acute because it is much cheaper to park on the street than off it. It is significant that there are more than 2,000 empty spaces every day in car parks and garages, in or very near these areas. If they were occupied by motorists who now park on the streets for long periods and so deprive short-term parkers of space, it would be possible for some 16,000 additional short-term parkers a day to use the meters.The Minister has considered asking the police to stamp out meter feeding by increasing their enforcement effort. But this would require a very great deal of manpower—far more than the police could spare or recruit. And it would still not be a complete solution. 'Musical meters' is not illegal and could not reasonably be made so. Moreover, the Minister is sure it is better to remove the cause of these practices than to try to punish people for indulging in them. In other words, prices must be adjusted so as to bring demand and supply nearer together and also to provide the right incentive for long-term parkers to leave their vehicle in the proper place—off the highway.The Minister notes that your Committee has suggested recently that more off-street car parks should be provided at 'reasonable' or 'acceptable' rates. If the suggestion is that off-street parking should be provided below the economic or market price, the Minister is unable to agree. He sees no reason why motorists should expect to pay less for parking space than it costs to provide it. Private enterprise could not be expected to run car parks at a loss and the Minister sees no good reason to encourage local authorities to subsidise their car parks at the expense of ratepayers. With regard to the amount of off-street parking space, the Minister feels sure your Committee is aware of many of the achievements and plans of local authorities and private enterprise. Some local authorities have been criticised for not making use of their surplus meter revenues. But, in fact most of them have already incurred, or are committed to, expenditure substantially in excess of what they have received. Some have had difficulty in acquiring suitable sites but are now making satisfactory progress. Since meters were first installed in London, more than 4,000 additional public off-street car spaces have been provided. But although many more are under construction or are firmly planned, both by local authorities and private enterprise, the progress needed will not be maintained if car parks, when completed, stand half-empty because they are undercut by on-street parking. As has been mentioned, there are at the present time over 2,000 empty spaces every day in car parks in or very near the busiest places. It is essential to adjust the price relationship between on and off-street parking, if new car parks are to be built and used.Your letter speaks of the effect of increasing meter charges as "penalising law-abiding short-term parkers". The Minister finds this hard to understand. He proposes to increase charges where—and

onlywhere—the would-be short-term parker at present during most of the day has to waste a good deal of time (and money) cruising around looking for an empty bay, or is compelled to incur a £2 penalty or sometimes even both. The increased charges are designed to help these motorists by making space available without long search. Letters sent to the Minister, or published in the Press, have welcomed the changes for just this reason.

Many people have overlooked the proposal to keep a unit parking fee of sixpence. This means that many short-term parkers would pay little, if anything, more than they do now. For instance, where charges are doubled, half an hour's parking would cost only 6d., as it does now; and an hour and a half 1s. 6d., compared with the present charge of 1s. At a rate of two shillings an hour it would be possible to park for a quarter of an hour for 6d. half an hour for 1s., and so on. And there would always be the chance of being able to use unexpired time on a meter without having to pay at all—another of the Minister's proposals. It is the long-term parker, the meter feeders and others who prevent the proper use of the bays for short-term parking, who would be discouraged by the increase in fees.

Your Committee expresses regret that the motorising organisations were not consulted before the Minister's proposals were announced. I am to point out, however, that these are only proposals. They were made public so that the Minister could receive the comments of all who are interested. He has invited local authorities to submit their comments to him. Copies were at the same time sent to the motoring organisations, whose views, as well as those of other representative bodies, will be welcomed. If your Committee feels that it would like to discuss the proposals in general, or any aspect of them, he will be glad to arrange for his hon. Adviser on London Traffic, Sir Alex Samuels, and senior officials to receive a deputation.

The Minister notes that the motoring organisations have received telephone calls and letters protesting against the proposed increase of some meter charges. He has received some himself. But he has also received a good many letters welcoming his comprehensive proposals These include not only the proposal to increase some meter charges, but also proposals to decrease some, to provide more parking space in existing zones, to give free "tag-end" parking and to have parking control without meters (and with preference for residents) in some less busy areas. The Minister hopes that his proposals will be judged as a whole. The underlying purpose, as with all his traffic measures, is to help road-users—and indeed the community—generally. He has noted with some pleasure that many responsible newspapers and periodicals have already considered his proposals for adjustng charges in the context of his proposals as a whole in this way, and have welcomed them.

I am, Gentlemen,

Your obedient Servant,

E. S. Ainley.

Shipping

Shipyards (Orders)

86.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the tonnage of ship ping under construction in United Kingdom shipyards for registration abroad for the last available quarter; and how this compares with the previous quarter.

The figures at 30th June and 31st March of this year were 260,000 and 306,000 gross tons, respectively.

Credit Facilities

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of his changed policy, as a result of which increased assistance has been made in respect of shipbuilding, he will extend the new credit terms to the repairing and refitting of British-owned ships, or otherwise make provision for special credit facilities to cover the repair and refitting of British ships in British shipyards.

No. I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Bodmin (Sir D. Marshall) on 17th June.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

South Devon Fisheries (Overseas Trawlers)

87.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that a Russian and two Polish trawlers are at present fishing, without regard to breeding seasons, off South Devon, just outside the 3 mile limit; and if he will have a special study made of these and similar activities by overseas trawlers, with a view to producing evidence in support of the British case to be argued before the European fishery conference in the autumn.

I am aware that Russian and Polish trawlers are fishing outside the 3 mile limit off South Devon. The local seasonal prohibition of trawling for sprats does not apply outside the 3 mile limit. My Department already notes such information as is available about the activities of foreign trawlers off our coasts.

Lime Subsidy

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give an assurance that the lime subsidy will be continued after June 1964; and if he will consult with the trade organisations on the future administration of the scheme.

Subject to the approval of Parliament we intend to continue subsidising agricultural lime after our current authority expires on 31st July, 1964. The trade organisations and the Farmers' Unions will be given a full opportunity to discuss with my Department any proposals for changes in the administration of this subsidy.

Forestry (Mining Timber)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what reduction in gross annual income he expects British forestry to suffer as the result of the lower prices of both hardwood and softwood mining timber under the current agreement with the National Coal Board, assuming the same total quantities purchased by the National Coal Board as in the previous year; and what proportion of such reduction will be suffered by the Forestry Commission and private forestry, respectively.

It is not possible to assess the change in gross annual income earned by British forestry as a result of the lower prices of hardwood and softwood mining timber, because the national price agreements are between the timber trade and the National Coal Board. The bulk of home supplies to the National Coal Board are prepared and delivered by the trade and it is not known how much of the reduction in the price of the finished product will be passed down by the timber trade to the private woodland owners and the Forestry Commission who together supply the raw material.

In any case it would not be right to assume that the quantity purchased by the National Coal Board would be the same as in the previous year. The Board hope to increase the proportion of their purchases of home-grown timber, despite the fall in their total consumption, although this has been delayed on account of the bad weather earlier in the year.

United Nations (Southern Rhodesia)

88.

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will instruct the United Kingdom's representative on the Security Council, when the Council deals with the request of the Committee on Colonialism to bring the case of Southern Rhodesia before the General Assembly, to give an assurance to the Council that Her Majesty's Government will not grant independence to Southern Rhodesia so long as the present constitution remains and so long as the majority of the people of Southern Rhodesia are denied full and effective political representation.

I am not aware of any formal move to discuss the question of Southern Rhodesia in the Security Council.

Bbc Overseas Services (Jamming)

asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) to what extent recent discussions by his Department, the British Broadcasting Corporation and the Russians centred around the problem of broadcast jamming between East and West; and whether any progress was made towards the goal of complete cessation of jamming;(2) if he will list the British Broadcasting Corporation sound programmes that are still subject to jamming by the Russians and other Eastern European States.

The last occasion on which Her Majesty's Government discussed jamming with the Soviet Union was during the negotiations for the renewal of the Anglo-Soviet Cultural Agreement in January, 1963. There was no change in the Soviet position then. But on 8th June, 1963, the Soviet Union spontaneously ceased jamming the British Broadcasting Corporation's broadcasts in Russian, Polish and German. Soviet jamming of British Broadcasting Corporation broadcasts in Roumanian and Albanian ceased on 29th July.From 9th to 17th July, 1963, Mr. M. A. Kharlamov, the Chairman of the Soviet State Committee for Broadcasting and Television, paid a visit to the United Kingdom at the invitation of the Director-General of the British Broadcasting Corporation. During this visit there were discussions on broadcasting and television exchanges of various kinds between the two countries. As Soviet jamming of the British Broadcasting Corporation's Russian broadcasts had ceased before the visit took place, it was not a subject for discussion.The present position is that the British Broadcasting Corporation's transmissions in Russian, Roumanian, Albanian and Polish are free from any interference. Transmissions in Hungarian, Czech, Slovak and Bulgarian continue to be jammed. Transmissions in German are jammed from East Germany and certain other East European countries, but not from the Soviet Union.

Austria (British Citizens)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what representations he has made to the Austrian Government following the ejection by force from Austrian territory of 45 British citizens carrying valid passports, who had obtained legal entry.

None. This is a matter which falls entirely within the domestic competence of the Austrian Government.

Minister Of Shipping

Q4.

No. For the reasons given in my reply on 23rd July to a Question by my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Macclesfield (Sir A. V. Harvey), it is appropriate in present circumstances that responsibility for surface transport, whether by land or by sea, should remain in the hands of one Minister.

South Africa (Supply Of Arms And Oil)

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister what proposals he has made to the Prime Ministers of other Commonwealth countries for joint action in the Security Council of the United Nations concerning the supply of arms and oil to the Republic of South Africa.

None. As only one other Commonwealth country is a member of the Security Council the question of joint action by Commonwealth countries does not arise.

United Nations (China)

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister what proposals he has made to the Prime Ministers of other Commonwealth countries for joint action to ensure that the Government of Peking shall be accorded a seat in the General Assembly and the Security Council of the United Nations.

As in the past, we shall naturally be in touch with other Commonwealth Governments if this matter again comes before the General Assembly of the United Nations.

Space Research

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister what initiatives he is taking to put space research on an international basis.

This country took the initiative, with France, in setting up the European Launcher Development Organisation. We have also played a full part from the start in the Preparatory Commission for the proposed European Space Research Organisation.

Marriage

asked the Prime Minister whether he will introduce legislation to make a penal offence any attempt to impugn the legality of a marriage celebrated in accordance with civil law.

No. The resolution of such issues does not appear to me to be a matter appropriate to the criminal law.

Earthquake, Skopje (Additional Aid)

asked the Prime Minister what additional aid is to be provided by Her Majesty's Government for relief of the disaster at Skopje; and what steps he is taking to co-ordinate the actions of the Government Departments involved.

My right hon. Friend the Lord Privy Seal informed the House on Monday of Her Majesty's Government's gift of £10,000 and of the various gifts in money and kind made by the voluntary societies. On Tuesday we were informed by the Yugoslav authorities that immediate requirements of relief supplies, such as medicine, food and clothing had already been met and that no further medical supplies or medical volunteers were needed. The immediate need was for temporary housing. On the same evening two tons of frames for pre-fabricated housing, donated by the War on Want organisation, were flown out to Belgrade by the Royal Air Force. The same aircraft carried 2 tons of baby food and 7 cwt. of blankets.My right hon. Friend also stated that Her Majesty's Government would give sympathetic consideration to the possibility of affording further help as soon as the full Yugoslav needs could be assessed. We have since received detailed advice from H.M. Embassy in Belgrade. In the light of this the Government will take the following steps:—First, to make a further gift of £10,000 to provide immediate assistance which may in part take the form of providing temporary accommodation or other supplies from stocks owned by Departments;Second, in response to a request from the Government of Yugoslavia for long term credits, to offer a loan of £500,000 towards the reconstruction of Skopje. This loan would be made under Section 3 of the Export Guarantees Act and would be available to pay for British goods and equipment which the Yugoslav authorities might require in due course for the rebuilding of the City. The full terms of this loan would be for negotiation with the Government of Yugoslavia;Third, the Government axe prepared to provide funds for the transport to Yugoslavia of goods which may be purchased out of private donations through the voluntary societies concerned.

Royal Navy

Hms "Leopard" And South African Minesweeper "Pietermaritzburg" (Collision)

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty how the accident between the British anti-aircraft frigate H.M.S. "Leopard" and the South African minesweeper "Pietermaritzburg" occurred; what casualties there were; and what was the estimated cost of the damage to H.M.S. "Leopard".

H.M.S. "Leopard" and the South African minesweeper "Pietermaritzburg" came into collision during exercises off Cape Point on 28th July.One unmarried rating, Ordinary Seaman Thomas Bolton, was killed: there were no other casualties in either ship. Boards of Inquiry are being arranged by the two navies and the cost of repair of the damage to H.M.S. "Leopard" is being investigated.On behalf of the Admiralty and the Royal Navy I would like to express my deep sympathy to the family of Seaman Bolton.

New Aircraft Carrier

asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty when it is proposed to lay down the new aircraft carrier designed to replace "Victorious" and "Ark Royal".

As my right hon. Friend the Minister of Defence said yesterday [Volume 682, Column 97], it is too early yet to say when the keel will actually be laid. There is a great deal to be done first, from the completion of design work both inside and outside the Admiralty to the inviting and examining of tenders.

Royal Air Force

Low Flying Aircraft, Blaxton

asked the Secretary of State for Air if he will instruct the Royal Air Force Station, Finningley, to prepare plans for future flying practice which will enable aircraft returning to base to approach the runway over open country at Blaxton, instead of the present arrangement which requires aircraft to do low banking over the houses of that village, causing disturbance at night to the residents.

I regret that it would not be practicable to seek to reduce the disturbance referred to by issuing such instructions. Blaxton is directly in line with, and only three quarters of a mile from, the runway at Royal Air Force Finningley. Aircraft landing from the north-east must therefore pass over the village.

Crater, Charlton

asked the Secretary of State for Air what were the findings of the two Royal Air Force officials who investigated the crater at Charlton, Wiltshire; and whether investigations by his Department are continuing.

From my inquiries, I have no reason to think that anything happened in the area which would justify further investigation by the Air Ministry.

Employment

Construction Industry (Industrial Relations)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will make a statement on his discussions with the employers and trade unions in the construction industry about industrial relations on large sites.

I asked representatives of the employers and the trade unions to meet me to discuss the special difficulties of relations on large sites some months ago. In the course of our discussions we agreed that employers and unions in each of the four main groups of the industry should meet to discuss what steps might be taken to improve co-ordination and what arrangements might be made to enable disputes to be dealt with at an early stage, the procedures for settling disputes to work more effectively, and communications between employers and workers on the site to be improved. It was agreed also that the main contractor should have as much authority as possible for labour relations on the site.The employers and unions in all four groups have now had discussions and have agreed on measures appropriate in the different sections of the industry which I am confident will benefit relations. I should like to acknowledge the co-operation and positive attitude of all concerned in examining these problems.My right hon. Friend the Minister of Public Building and Works has announced that for government contracts his aim will be to appoint a main contractor with the greatest practicable degree of responsibility for the whole of the work.

Pensions And National Insurance

Private Occupational Pension Schemes

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what is the number of persons covered by private pensions schemes whose employers have opted out of the graduated scheme.

I assume that by private pension schemes my hon. Friend means schemes other than those run for persons employed in nationalised industries or the public services. On that basis about 1,860,000 employees covered by private occupational pension schemes have been contracted out of the National Insurance graduated pension scheme.

Post Office

Special Stamp Issues

asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the success of the special commemorative stamps that he has issued during the last 12 months, if he will now consider issuing some pictorials in the lower priced issues, particularly a set of London's historic buildings and a pictorial survey of industry; and if he will consider depicting other national achievements.

Our policy is to issue special stamps to mark outstanding current events of national or international importance and Royal and postal anniversaries and occasions. The special issues made this year are in accordance with this policy. If an issue should be suggested within this policy and which gives opportunity to illustrate buildings, industry, or other national achievements, we will readily consider it.

London Radio Tower

asked the Postmaster-General what was the original estimated cost of the London Radio Tower; and what is the recent estimate of total cost of completion.

It was originally expected to cost a little under £1,200,000. I now expect it to cost about £1,250,000.

Science

Atomic Energy Authority (Scientists And Engineers)

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science how many scientists, engineers and other technologists, respectively, have left the Atomic Energy Authority for America and Canada to take jobs or scholarships in each of the last five years.

To the best of the Authority's knowledge the numbers are as follows

ScientistsEngineers
19585
1959201
196081
1961112
196217
No other technologists have been involved.The total number of scientists and engineers employed by the Authority is about 5,000.

Medical Research

asked the Parliamentary Secretary for Science what steps are taken to collect, record and make easily assessable to those engaged in medical research the results of research throughout the medical world, with a view to economy of effort and avoidance of duplication.

The results of medical research are normally published, as they become available, in the medical and scientific journals which are distributed throughout the world. Many of them are also presented and discussed at international congresses. By these means and by informal contacts, medical scientists working in different countries are kept well acquainted with the research carried out by others.

Scotland

Operating Theatres (Ventilation)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in view of the fact that out-of-date ventilating systems in operating theatres can double the risk of cross-infection to patients undergoing operations, he will examine the possibility of providing operating theatres in Scottish hospitals with the latest specially-designed ventilation equipment.

Hospital authorities are well informed on the contribution that can be made by efficient ventilating systems in operating theatres to the prevention of cross-infection. The 44 new operating theatres which have been built since 1948 are all provided with ventilation equipment. Where practicable such equipment has also been provided in older theatres which have been improved. Hospital authorities are devoting a great deal of attention to the problem of cross-infection, and the programme of improvement of operating theatres will continue.

Teacher Training Colleges (Admission Of Qualified Applicants)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland by how many qualified applicants for teacher training exceed the place? available in colleges in Scotland for the year 1963–64.

The Colleges of Education expect to admit all qualified applicants, although a few students may not be admitted to the College of their first choice.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that there is a record number of qualified applicants for entry to teacher training colleges in Scotland for the year 1963–64; and, in view of the fact that qualified applicants exceeded places available last year and of the continuing teacher shortage, if he will adopt emergency measures to ensure that no qualified applicant is denied admission to training because of lack of accommodation.

I am aware that the number of qualified applicants for admission to colleges of education is increasing year by year. No qualified entrants failed to gain admission in 1962–63 and this is expected to be the position again in 1963–64. The College authorities are pursuing measures to ensure that all qualified applicants will secure places in the future as in the past.

University Grants Committee (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in view of the University Grants Committee's report on the use of vacations by students, he will cause the regulations governing additional allowances for vacation study to be relaxed.

I propose to review this matter after receiving the views of the universities which, I understand, are considering the Report.

Forth, Clyde And Monkland Canals (Safety And Maintenance)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement about safety on the Forth and Clyde and Monkland Canals; and whether the maintenance of these canals remains with British Waterways in accordance with the assurance given to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Maryhill, on 30th January, 1962.

The hon. Member now has a copy of a letter my hon. Friend wrote the other day, which sets out the various aspects of this matter at some length.

Forth Estuary (Pollution)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is aware of the damage caused by pollution to the fishing in the upper reaches of the Forth estuary; when he expects partial or complete purification to be assured; and what action he is taking in the meanwhile.

I am afraid that there has been little improvement in the condition of the estuary recently. Sewage purification schemes under construction and the Alloa and Clackmannanshire Joint Drainage Scheme recently approved should however greatly improve conditions.

British Army

National Servicemen (Casualties)

asked the Secretary of State for War if he will publish the total number of fatal casualties suffered by National Servicemen.

During the years 1949–62, there were 2,578 deaths among National Service officers and men in the Army representing an average death rate of some 0·1 per cent. per annum of those serving with a National Service liability. Three hundred and ninety-five of these were killed or died of wounds on active service. I would like to take this opportunity of paying tribute to the magnificent service given by these men and their comrades to their country.

Crater, Charlton (Investigation)

asked the Secretary of State for War whether investigations by his Department into the cause of the crater at Charlton, Wiltshire, are continuing.

The Army was concerned only to discover whether the crater could contain an unexploded bomb. Nothing of this nature was found and the Bomb Disposal Unit left the site on Friday, 26th July.