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Volume 690: debated on Monday 2 March 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 2nd March, 1964

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Fowl Pest

12.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what scientific papers his Department have published on the result of fowl pest research since the publication of the Plant Report.

Two papers have been published on work carried out at the Central Veterinary Laboratory, one relating to fowl pest vaccine and the other to laboratory diagnosis of the disease.

13.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why a fowl pest vaccine of greater strength is not being made immediately available in the worst-hit areas.

Vaccines are always being improved; meanwhile the most urgent need is not for a vaccine of greater strengtth, but for a greater use of existing vaccine. There is evidence that the present vaccine will give good control of fowl pest if widely and properly used. This has been shown in East Anglia in recent months where a heavy incidence of disease has been reduced to very small proportions. On the other hand, in Lancashire and more recently in Cheshire and Shropshire, where insufficient use has been made of vaccine, numerous outbreaks occurred during the winter and continue to occur.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much was spent by his Department on research into fowl pest during the last three financial years; and who much he estimates will be spent during the present year.

Precise information is not readily available, but it is estimated that the cost of research work which is being undertaken at the Central Veterinary Laboratory will average almost £15,000 during each of the years in question. This figure includes wages and salaries.

Advisory Committee On Poisonous Substances

15.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why the recently formed Advisory Committee on Poisonous Substances includes at least two persons from Scotland; and why no person from Wales and no person from Ulster is included.

The members of this Committee, which was set up in February, 1954, are selected for their knowledge and experience, not on a territorial basis. The Committee is concerned with the use of toxic substances in Great Britain only and its remit does not extend to Northern Ireland.

Fluoroacetamide

21.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many dogs died in Ministry of Agriculture laboratories as a result of tests to investigate contamination of fields by the drug fluoroacetamide; how the drugs were administered to the dogs; and what symptoms developed before death.

As I said in my statement to the House on 3rd February, three dogs died during investigations at the Central Veterinary Laboratories at Weybridge into the incident at Smarden, Kent. The dogs were given suspected water or flesh from suspect animals. The symptoms of fluoroacetamide poisoning are excitability, coma and convulsions in coma. It is reported that human beings who have recovered from this form of poisoning in the United States suffered no pain, and we have no reason to believe that pain was suffered by the dogs.

22.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will issue instructions that all soil taken from the Smarden area for dumping into the sea shall be placed in containers before being so dumped.

I understand that the firm has accepted advice to mix the contaminated material with cement in containers, in order to overcome the practical difficulty of transporting the material from Smarden to the edge of the continental shelf without leakage on the way. I can assure the hon. Member that the dumping will not harm fisheries.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what chemical tests have been devised for testing plants suspected of containing fluoroacetates, when existing tests on grass show no detectable level of fluoroacetamide despite the fact that two of his experimental cows died after a few weeks from fluoroacetamide poisoning after grazing for a short while on an affected field.

The method of testing plants for fluoroacetamide and fluoroacetate residues devised in 1956 by Dr. Thompson of my Ministry's Plant Pathology Laboratory was published in the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, 1959, volume 10, page 388. Dr. Egan, and Dr. Wood of the Laboratory of the Government Chemist D.S.I.R. published a modified method in the same journal in 1960, volume 11, page 580. The level of detection is of the order of 0·1 parts per million using 100 gms. of plant material. The Laboratory of the Government Chemist is currently looking into more specific methods for the detection and determination of fluoroacetic acid, fluoroacetate and fluoroacetamide.Some grass samples taken in September 1963 showed evidence of slight contamination on analysis. This was confirmed in the case of one sample by means of feeding trials with a guinea-pig. A further sample taken on 8th January 1964 produced negative results when tested biologically. Grazing trials of cows to which my hon. Friend refers conducted on suspected pasture indicated that, for a period after 12th November 1963; a source of organic-fluorine was still available to these animals, but this may have been due to an overflowing pond.

asked the Minister of Agriculture. Fisheries and Food if his veterinary laboratory is the only laboratory permitted to secure dogs which are painlessly destroyed after being subjected to intense convulsive symptoms in order to prove fluoroacetate poisoning; and if he will now prohibit the manufacture and use of fluoroacetates entirely.

The Ministry's Veterinary Laboratory is not the only laboratory permitted to use dogs for experimental purposes. My right hon. Friend has asked the Advisory Committee on Poisonous Substances Used in Agriculture and Food Storage to review the rodenticidal use of fluoroacetamide and will consider whether any further action is called for in the light of the Committee's Report.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, in view of the fact that a dog, being the most susceptible creature known, is used to provide scientific proof whether an animal has died from suspected fluoroacetate poisoning, and that regulations were already in force last year which should have prevented the deaths of many pet animals in South Wales, if he will ban this product as a rodenticide.

My right. hon. Friend has referred the question of the rodenticidal use of this product to the Advisory Committee on Poisonous Substances Used in Agriculture and Food Storage.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, if he is aware that private veterinary surgeons have no conclusive method of distinguishing between the relatively common mineral deficiency disease of hypomagnesaemia in cattle, sheep and goats, and acute fluoroacetate poisoning in these animals, when presented only with the post-mortem findings and history of symptoms presented by the farmer, and likewise the distinguishing features at post-mortem examination between the relatively common virus encephalitis in dogs and acute fluoroacetate poisoning; and what research he proposes to initiate to clarify this position.

Many conditions of animals other than those mentioned require the use of laboratory techniques and apparatus before a conclusive diagnosis can be made.Veterinary surgeons in private practice who are faced with problems in farm animals such as those described, and who have insufficient laboratory facilities to resolve them, know that assistance may be obtained from the Ministry's Veterinary Investigation Service. The Ministry does not normally do work connected with domestic pets but it is prepared to help where a serious outbreak of poisoning is suspected.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many dogs have been used for tests connected with contamination by the drug fluoroacetamide; over what period the tests took place; and where the dogs used in the experiment were obtained.

Three dogs died during investigations into the Smarden incident, and a further three were used in investigations into the death of a number of domestic animals at Merthyr Tydfil. The tests took place between the end of September and mid-December. They were surplus to the requirements of the dog breeders from whom they were obtained.

Meat Pies

34.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further action he has taken on the report of the Food Standards Committee on the contents of meat pies.

My right hon. Friend is circulating proposals—probably in a day or two—for regulations to prescribe minimum meat content standards for meat pies, and inviting interested parties, whom my right hon. Friend is bound to consult, to let him have their comments by the middle of April.

Agricultural Attachés

35.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many agricultural attachés have been appointed to embassies abroad; in which countries they are serving; and to which Commonwealth countries have officers with similar responsibilities been appointed.

There are at present seven Ministry officers serving overseas, not counting two veterinary representatives in the Argentine. Three are serving with our Delegations to O.E.C.D., E.E.C. and F.A.O., respectively, and these officers also act as agricultural attachés in France, Western Germany and Italy respectively. There are also two agricultural advisers, equivalent to attachés, one in Australia and one in New Zealand, and two agricultural attachés in the United States and Denmark respectively, the latter also covering Holland.

Scrub Clearance Grant

38.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware of the anomaly created by the cancellation of the scrub clearance grant in that there is now a grant for converting scrub woodland to agricultural land, but none where it is intended to plant trees; and if he will take steps to remove this anomaly.

The Forestry Commission's scrub clearance grant was introduced as a supplement to the normal planting grant as a temporary measure in 1954 to help woodland owners to replant scrub areas resulting from wartime felling; because this objective had been largely achieved the scheme was ended last year. The Commission grant for planting trees continues to be payable.

Cattle Feedlot Enterprises

39.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to large cattle feedlot enterprises.

With the important exception of the Small Farmer Scheme, the price guarantees and production grants benefit all producers of livestock without discrimination against any on account of size.

Farm Incomes

42.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how farmers' incomes in England compare with those in Scotland.

My information on farm incomes in various parts of the country is obtained from surveys conducted by agricultural economists. The following table gives figures for 1962–63 for various types of farming in England and Wales and Scotland.

Type of FarmingAverage acreage of farmAverage net income
Crops and Grass£'s per farm
England and Wales
Dairying1221,280
Livestock1591,328
Arable2293,316
Crops and Livestock2603,378
Mixed2392,402
Scotland
Dairying1661,306
Upland rearing181953
Cropping2483,123
Livestock with arable1721,366

Fatstock Guarantee Scheme

44.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if the recommendations of the Verdon-Smith Committee concerning the Fatstock Guarantee Scheme will be considered during the Price Review negotiations.

I cannot yet add to the replies which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Leominster (Mr. Clive Bossom) on 14th January and to the hon. Member for Workington (Mr. Peart) on 18th February.

Stokesley Flood Relief Scheme

45.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a grant to the Wear and Tees River Board to assist in the Stokesley Flood Relief Scheme; and if he will make a statement.

The Wear and Tees River Board has recently supplied further information in support of this scheme. Until this has been examined, my right hon. Friend cannot give a decision on grant.

Eggs

47.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of the nation's egg output is now concentrated in units of over 2,000 birds; and what communications he has received from the Egg Marketing Board on the question of large-scale industrial production.

This precise information is not available, but in June, 1963, approximately 27 per cent. of laying birds on agricultural holdings in England and Wales were in flocks of 2,500 bird; or more. My right hon. Friend has received no communication about large-scale production from the British Egg Marketing Board.

Cereals, Meat And Feedingstuffs (Imports)

48.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food by how much the value of imports of cereals, meat and animal feedingstuffs increased in January 1964 over the corresponding figures for 1963.

The increase in the value of imports of cereals and the main animal feedingstuffs in January, 1964 compared with January, 1963 was nearly £8 million. The corresponding figure for meat was nearly £4½ million.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will set out the quantities of wheat, barley, oats, beef and veal, eggs, mutton and lamb, and pigmeat imported into the United Kingdom on average in the years 1936–37 to 1938–39 and in 1962–63.

The following is the information:

IMPORTS INTO THE UNITED KINGDOM YEARS BEGINNING 1ST JULY
'000 tons
Average of years 1936–37 to 1938–391962–63
Wheat (a)5,1003,730
Barley939292
Oats8352
Beef and veal (b)627393
Mutton and lamb (b)344363
Pigmeat (b) (c)518483
Eggs in shell18423
(a) In addit on the wheat equivalent of imports of flour was 577 thousand tons in the first period and 458 thousand tons in the second period.
(b) Includes meat from animals imported fat from the Irish Republic and slaughtered on arrival.
(c) Includes bacon in terms of pigmeat.

Civil Servants

49.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many civil servants are employed in his Department whose duties include the provision of material for speeches.

No Ministry officer is specifically concerned with the provision of material for speeches. The work arises in the normal course of duties according to the nature of the speech.

Tea

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what qualities of tea were imported from the Congo Republic and the Argentine Republic during 1963; in what form these teas reach the general public;

1954195519561957195819591960196119621963
per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
44·544·039·638·939·438·330·833·935·736·1

British Sugar Corporation (Financial Arrangements)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has now reached agreement on new financial relations with the British Sugar Corporation; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. Agreement has been reached with the Board of Directors of the British Sugar Corporation on new financial arrangements. These are being put to the Corporation's shareholders for their approval.The new arrangements have two main functions:

  • (a) to change the present unusual status of the ordinary shares of the Corporation;
  • (b) to increase the incentives to efficiency throughout the Corporation's activities.
  • At present the capital of the British Sugar Corporation consists of 5 million £1 ordinary shares. The present 7 per cent. dividend which has been in effect since 1960 cannot under the Articles of and how many brands include tea from these countries.

    I understand that the tea trade normally classifies tea from the Congo Republic as "medium" or "plain" tea and that from the Argentine Republic as "plain" tea. I also understand that both Congo and Argentine teas are blended with other teas before being sold to the general public. I have no information on the number of brands which include tea from these countries.

    Bacon

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of the British market for bacon was supplied by the home industry in each of the last ten years.

    The information is as follows:Association be raised without the consent of the Secretary of State for Scotland, the Minister of Agriculture and the Treasury. The Government have made it clear to the Corporation that this dividend is adequate and fair to share-holders in existing circumstances bearing in mind the extent to which these shares differ from ordinary company stock under the terms of the existing financial relations between the Corporation, the Government and the Sugar Board, which involve the share-holders in no commercial risks. The Government said, however, that they were prepared to make fresh arrangements under which shareholders would assume such a degree of the risks normally borne by equity shareholders that the Government would be justified in removing the present restriction on the dividend.The method of exposing shareholders to commercial risks and of encouraging the steady improvement of efficiency will be as follows. A formula has been agreed for calculating a "standard price" for sugar beet, i.e. a price which the Corporation ought to be able to pay and, taking one year with another, still make a reasonable return on their capital. If the Government require the Corporation to pay farmers a guaranteed price higher than the standard price then the Sugar Board will make up the difference to the Corporation. If, on the other hand, the standard price is higher than the guaranteed price the Corporation will pay the difference to the Sugar Board. This means that if the Corporation increases its efficiency its profits will rise; if it does not achieve the standard set then profits will fall —or it may make losses.The new financial arrangements will be incorporated in an Incentive Agreement made under Section 19 of the 1956 Sugar Act. If the shareholders accept the new arrangements this Agreement will be laid before Parliament as a Statutory Instrument. In the meantime I am arranging for a copy of the draft Incentive Agreement to be placed in the library.It is also proposed that there should be changes in the capital structure designed to recognise the rôle of the Sugar Board in the accumulation of reserves over recent years. Since 1st April 1957, the Sugar Board has been the source of the profits of the Corporation totalling £14·2 million and of this £5·5 million has been put to reserve for re-investment in the renewal and improvement of the Corporation's equipment. Just over half the Corporation's reserves have been accumulated in this way. Shareholders are being asked to approve the creation of an additional 5 million paid-up £1 shares; half of these will be distributed to existing shareholders (including the Treasury which owns 750,000 shares); and the other £2½ million will be given without payment to the Sugar Board. The Sugar Board will thus acquire 25 per cent. of the Corporation's equity and share to this extent in future profits. It will apply the dividends it receives to help keep down the cost of sugar to the consumer.The Articles of Association of the British Sugar Corporation will be amended to remove the need for Ministerial consent to dividends above 7 per cent. and to permit capitalisation of reserves if the new financial arrangements come into force.

    The Corporation's responsibilities under the Sugar Act 1956 to buy from farmers the acreage of sugar beet fixed by Ministers at prices determined in accordance with the Agriculture Acts of 1947 and 1957 will of course remain unaltered. The Secretary of State for Scotland and I will continue to appoint the Chairman and two other members of the Board of Directors of the Corporation.

    The Government believe that these new arrangements will prove more satisfactory than the present ones. In due course it will be our intention to modify some of details of the 1956 Sugar Act, so as to simplify the mechanism for the financial relations between the Government, the Sugar Board and the Corporation.

    Employment

    Holidays

    asked the Minister of Labour how many recorded agreements exist throughout industry in respect of annual leave and Bank and public holiday entitlements how many of these provide for more than two weeks' leave and six Bank and public holidays per annum; and how many refer to salaried employees.

    Information is not available about the number of collective agreements which deal with leave. It is estimated, however, that nearly 80 per cent. of employees are covered by collective agreements or statutory wages regulation orders which, amongst other things, provide for payment for annual and public holidays. About one-sixth of all manual workers are covered by agreements which provide for more than two weeks' annual holiday and six public holidays.Information is not available about the number of salaried workers covered by agreements which provide for more than two weeks' annual holiday and six public holidays.

    Aberdeen

    54.

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will make a statement, by sexes and trades, of the numbers of unemployed persons in the City and County of Aberdeen now as compared with the corresponding figures during each of the last 10 years.

    I regret that the information is not readily available and would take a considerable time to produce. In an endeavour to assist the

    INDUSTRIAL ANALYSIS OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES IN ABERDEEN AND THE REST OF ABERDEENSHIRE
    10th February, 1964
    IndustryAberdeenAberdeen County excluding Aberdeen
    MalesFemalesTotalMalesFemalesTotal
    Agriculture and Horticulture1471115827632308
    Fishing161161158158
    Bacon curing, meat, and fish products10375178110183293
    Shipbuilding and Ship Repairing432451919
    Spinning and doubling of cotton flax and man-made fibres274067119
    Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc.5115244
    Timber1261514122224
    Construction28512861312133
    Sea Transport1071072525
    Distributive Trades3272465738682168
    Entertainment and Sport70178766
    Catering, Hotels, etc.10574179143347
    Private Domestic Service53641115263
    Local Government Service1623419616420
    Other Industries and Services633365998237160397
    Total, all Industries and Services2,3529193,2691,1165501,666
    11th February, 1963
    IndustryAberdeenAberdeen County excluding Aberdeen
    MalesFemalesTotalMalesFemalesTotal
    Agriculture and Horticulture1511716830017317
    Fishing166166299299
    Bacon curing, meat, and fish products8849137132123255
    Shipbuilding and Ship Repairing405340826127
    Spinning and doubling of cotton flax and man-made fibres25315611
    Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc.951961616
    Timber127313060161
    Construction79417955832585
    Sea Transport1541542727
    Distributive Trades3712426139880178
    Entertainment and Sport631679437
    Catering, Hotels, etc.13392225222547
    Private Domestic Service12344665763
    Local Government Service1962321925126
    Other Industries and Services9243361,260296166462
    Total, all Industries and Services3,7048484,5521,8944772,371

    hon. and learned Gentleman, I circulate the following tables which contain an analysis of unemployment by industry and sex for February 1962, 1963 and 1964, and by sex only for February 1954.

    12th February, 1962
    IndustryAberdeenAberdeen County excluding Aberdeen
    MalesFemalesTotalMalesFemalesTotal
    Agriculture and Horticulture124412820719622
    Fishing225225928928
    Bacon curing, meat, and fish products695011991136227
    Shipbuilding and Ship Repairing13721392626
    Spinning and doubling of cotton flax and man-made fibres35185311
    Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc.5315422
    Timber10011012626
    Construction27342771893192
    Sea Transport16616619221
    Distributive Trades2961764729066156
    Entertainment and Sport59766369
    Catering, Hotels, etc.1076717482129
    Private Domestic Service12284025052
    Local Government Service1492317216420
    Other Industries and Services8463191,165251135386
    Total, all Industries and Services2,6517001,3511,8594422,301

    PERSONS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES IN ABERDEEN AND THE REST OF ABERDEENSHIRE AT 15TH FEBRUARY, 1954
    AberdeenAberdeen County excluding Aberdeen
    MalesFemalesTotalMalesFemalesTotal
    2,3828333,21530828336

    Bridgend, Maesteg, Ogmore Vale And Pontycymmer

    asked the Minister of Labour how many men and women, respectively, were registered as unemployed in January and February, 1964, at the Bridgend, Maesteg, Ogmore Vale, and Pontycymmer exchanges.

    Following is the information required:

    NUMBERS OF MEN AND WOMEN REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT THE BRIDGEND, MAESTEG, OGMORE VALE AND PONTYCYMMER LOCAL OFFICES
    13th January, 196410th February, 1964
    MenWomenMenWomen
    Bridgend555132195132
    Maesteg660110161114
    Ogmore Vale26331831
    Pontycymmer79374230

    Commonwealth Immigrants (Vouchers)

    asked the Minister of Labour how many work permits were granted to immigrants under the Commonwealth Immigrants Act during the last six months of 1963; and how many of these were granted to immigrants from India and Pakistan.

    Between 1st July, 1963 and 27th December, 1963, a total of 21,741 vouchers were issued, of which 15,542 were in respect of citizens of India or Pakistan.

    asked the Minister of Labour how many applications for work permits under the Commonwealth Immigrants Act were outstanding or waiting to be dealt with on 31st January 1964; and how many of these were applications from India and Pakistan.

    On 31st January, 1964, nearly 290,000 applications for vouchers were outstanding, of which about 270,000 were in respect of citizens of India and Pakistan.

    Dock Labour Scheme

    asked the Minister of Labour which ports are at present members of the National Dock Labour Scheme; how many employers are involved; what is the average number of employees in each port; which ports at present do not operate the scheme; how many employers are involved; and what is the average number of employees in each port.

    The following information has been supplied by the National Dock Labour Board about the number of registered employers and dock workers at 18th February, 1964, in ports to which the Dock Labour Scheme applies. I regret that there is no comparable information for ports outside the Dock Labour Scheme.

    Port/AreaNumber of Registered EmployersNumber of Registered Workers
    Newcastle24414
    Dunston (including Gateshead)148
    North Shields10208
    South Shields (including Pelaw and Jarrow)7277
    Blyth3167
    Sunderland10195
    Seaham329
    TYNE AND WEAR581,338
    Middlesbrough (Dock and River Tees)37974
    Hartlepools14213
    MIDDLESBROUGH AND HARTLEPOOLS511,187
    Hull1184,170
    Goole31405
    HULL AND GOOLE1494,575
    Grimsby741,583
    Immingham115
    GRIMSBY AND IMMINGHAM741,698
    Boston17226
    Wisbech1859
    King's Lynn27226
    WASH PORTS62511
    Port/AreaNumber of Registered EmployersNumber of Registered Workers
    Yarmouth30108
    Lowestoft936
    Ipswich2190
    East Anglia60234
    Surrey Docks4513,417
    Upper Pool2,726
    Tilbury1,959
    Northfleet388
    Royal Docks7,304
    India and Millwall Docks3,201
    London Docks2,656
    Lightermen3,535
    LONDON45125,186
    Rochester41366
    Chatham
    Strood
    Whitstable20
    Queenborough10
    Sittingbourne8
    Sheerness44
    MEDWAY AND SWALE41448
    Southampton261,821
    Poole1390
    Weymouth2123
    SOUTH COAST412,034
    PLYMOUTH26129
    Fowey3467
    Par51
    Charlestown6
    Falmouth (with Penryn)21
    Truro (Newlyn, Mousehole, St. Ives)4
    Penzance (with Porthleven)22
    Hayle15
    Portreath3
    CORNWALL34189
    Bristol (City Docks)77482
    Avonmouth1,459
    Portishead12
    Sharpness15122
    Gloucester2231
    BRISTOL AND SEVERN1142,106
    Newport23664
    Cardiff47486
    Barry15247
    Port Talbot7166
    Swansea23647
    SOUTH WALES1152,210
    Port/AreaNumber of Registered EmployersNumber of Registered Workers
    Liverpool (A.B.C.)11610,681
    Birkenhead12,099
    Bromborough1119
    Liverpool11812,899
    Garston6582
    Widnes6
    GARSTON AND WIDNES6588
    Salford32,183
    Partington164
    Ellesmere Port3266
    Runcorn268
    Weston Point43
    MANCHESTER92,624
    PRESTON10462
    FLEETWOOD5224
    Barrow266
    Whitehaven926
    Workington58
    Maryport3
    Silloth18
    CUMBERLAND AND BARROW11171
    Ayr1265
    Troon7
    Irvine7
    Ardrossan73
    AYRSHIRE12152
    GREENOCK7240
    GLASGOW212,127
    Aberdeen19479
    Dundee (including Tayport)8259
    Methil656
    Kirkcaldy363
    Burntisland228
    Grangemouth17555
    Leith (including Granton)25591
    EAST SCOTLAND611,552
    TOTALS1,55563,363

    Young People, Bridgend

    asked the Minister of Labour how many boys and girls, respectively, were registered as unemployed at the Bridgend youth employment office in January and February; and how many were recent school leavers.

    The information is as follows:

    January, 1964February, 1964
    BoysGirlsBoysGirls
    1. Number of young persons registered as unemployed8415352138
    2. Number of young persons registered for first employment (included in 1 above)913416
    3. Christmas, 1963 school leavers unemployed (included in both 1 and 2 above)2Nil13

    Fendar Limited (Investigations)

    56.

    asked the Attorney-General what action he is taking regarding Messrs. Fendar Limited, following the new evidence submitted to him by the hon. Member for Leith.

    Information and complaints regarding Fendar Limited are still being received. These are being passed immediately on receipt to the police for investigation. One agent of Fendar Limited has already been successfully prosecuted for obtaining money by false pretences. Investigations are continuing into the company itself.

    Refugees, Rwanda (Aid)

    58.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the assistance given to refugees from Rwanda by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees; and what help has been given to the High Commissioner by Her Majesty's Government.

    Since 1962 the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has invested more than £360,000 in international funds to help finance settlements for 132,000 Rwanda refugees in Burundi, the Kivu Province of the Congo, Tanganyika and Uganda.As a result of recent events in Rwanda, a further 4,000 new refugees have arrived in Burundi and a further 8,000 in Uganda. The High Commissioner's Executive Committee decided on 29th January to allocate £35,000 for the immediate relief of these new refugees. The High Commissioner has been assured of Her Majesty's Government's support in his efforts to relieve and resettle these unfortunate people. During 1962 and 1963, his contribution to their relief formed part of a total budget of £4·2 million, towards which Her Majesty's Government paid £300,000.

    Anglo-Libyan Treaty

    59.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what notice Her Majesty's Government have received from the Government of Libya regarding the termination of the Anglo-Libyan Treaty.

    None, Her Majesty's Government have, of course, noted the Libyan Government's statement, as reported in the Press, that they do not intend to renew the Treaty when it expires.

    Viet-Nam

    60.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what information he received regarding the extent to which the present political authorities are in effective control of the major part of Viet-Nam before deciding to recognise those authorities as the Government of the Republic of Viet-Nam.

    Her Majesty's Ambassador at Saigon reported that the new Government of Viet-Nam enjoyed with a reasonable prospect of permanency, the obedience of the mass of the population, and effective control over as great a part of the national territory as its predecessor.

    61.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware that it is the officially stated policy of the Government of Viet-Nam in Saigon to exterminate all neutralists as traitors; and, in view of the fact that this is contrary to article 14(c) of the Geneva Agreements of 1954, what action he is taking as co-chairman of the Geneva Conference.

    The hon. Member may be referring to a statement by the Chairman of the Military Revolutionary Council of Viet-Nam broadcast on 30th January.In fact, the present Government, like their immediate predecessor, have taken various conciliatory measures including the release of a number of political prisoners. It would be reasonable to expect that they will not in fact adopt such a draconian policy as a literal interpretation of the remark of the Prime Minister of Viet-Nam might suggest.If the Viet-Namese Government were to take action on the statement, it would be for the International Control Commission in Viet-Nam to decide whether, in its view, Article 14(

    c) had been violated.

    European Fisheries Conference

    64.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will now make a statement, for the guidance of British fishing fleets, on the claims and agreements reached by the nations with fishing fleets in the North Sea as to territorial fishing limits, and other matters in dispute, following the recent international conference in London.

    68.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what decisions have been reached at the European Fishing Conference; and if he will make a statement.

    The European Fisheries Conference has just ended this morning. I will make a statement to the House tomorrow.

    Genocide (Convention)

    65.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, in view of the new evidence recently disclosed in Germany regarding the policy of genocide as carried out by Hitler's government, and the decision of the London Sessions Appeal Court on 7th February, 1964, that a man who uttered public incitement to genocide, by shouting his approval of Hitler's policy, was not guilty of an offence, if he will now reconsider his policy regarding Her Majesty's Government's adherence to the United Nations Convention on Genocide.

    Her Majesty's Government are not convinced that they should reconsider their decision not to accede to the Convention.

    Oman

    67.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware of the appointment by the United Nations of the ad hoc committee of inquiry into the situation in Oman; and whether he will use his good offices within the United Nations to facilitate this investigation.

    This Committee was set up on 28th February and has not yet approached Her Majesty's Government. Her Majesty's Government will give sympathetic consideration to any requests from it on matters which fall within our competence.

    Ministry Of Health

    Hearing Aids

    69.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will introduce legislation to ensure that no hearing aid shall be supplied without a doctor's prescription.

    asked the Minister of Health if, in addition to the free offer of a Medresco hearing-aid to National Health Service patients, he will make available a variety of post-aural aids.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will establish, under the National Health Service, hearing centres at which all the services at present provided by commercial centres may be offered.

    A full range of services is already available to National Health Service patients at hospital diagnostic clinics and hearing aid distribution centres.

    70.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will introduce legislation to ensure that no hearing aid shall be fitted or sold by any person who has not passed examinations approved by the Minister to qualify him to give this service.

    asked the Minister of Health what is the average cost for each plastic ear mould supplied by the National Health Service; what is the estimated cost of the new skeletal mould; and if his policy is to make skeletal moulds available in due course.

    I understand that the retail price of skeletal moulds is about 3 to 4 guineas. My right hon. Friend is not considering making them available under the National Health Service. I cannot disclose contract prices, but plastic moulds are many times cheaper.

    Fluoridation

    asked the Minister of Health, in view of the fact that fluoridation of public water supply helps to prevent dental caries if administered during embryonic and early post-natal life, by hardening certain enamel tissues, what research has been undertaken into the possibility that fluoridation causes pathological hardening of bony tissues other than teeth in later life.

    The research undertaken is reviewed in Appendix 8 of the Report on The Conduct of the Fluoridation Studies in the United Kingdom and the Results Achieved after Five Years (Reports on Public Health and Medical Subjects No. 105) and in other standard works on the subject. No harm to health has been found from the fluoridation of water supplies at one part per million.

    asked the Minister of Health how many local health authorities have now reached a decision on fluoridation of water supplies; how many have decided to proceed; how many have rejected fluoridation; and if he will give similar figures for water authorities.

    Thirty-three local health authorities in England and Wales have informed me that they have decided to approach the water undertakers. Information on the other parts of the Question is not centrally collected, but I understand that more than 60 local health authorities have passed resolutions in favour of fluoridation and under 30 against.

    Doctors' Remuneration (Review Body)

    73 and 74.

    asked the Minister of Health (1) what aspects of the general practitioner service, its future rôle, system of payment, level of remuneration, practice expenses, conditions of service, and capital provision, are currently under examination by the Review Body, by himself, by a departmental working party or by any other body for which he is responsible; and if he will delineate the precise scope of each form of inquiry;(2) whether the Review Body has undertaken to reconsider in the immediate future the remuneration of all doctors or only of general practitioners.

    It is for the Review Body to keep the remuneration both of hospital doctors and of general practitioners under review but no claims are at present before it.All aspects of general medical practice other than the quantum of remuneration are within the scope of the Working Party which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland and I are setting up in agreement with the profession.

    Mentally Subnormal, Hertfordshire

    asked the Minister of Health where hostels are to be built in the next 10 years in Hertfordshire for the mentally ill; and how many places will be made available in each hostel.

    The county council's plan provides for hostels with 30 places each at Hitchin, St. Albans, Watford, Welwyn Garden City and in East Hertfordshire.

    asked the Minister of Health where it is proposed to build junior training centres for the mentally subnormal in Hertfordshire during the next 10 years; how many are under construction at the moment; how many residential places will be provided in each centre; and how many non-residential places will be made available in each centre.

    The county council's plan provides for a new centre with 80 places at Welwyn Garden City and extensions to the existing centres at Hemel Hempstead and Stanstead Abbots by a further 10 and 24 places respectively. Centres with 80 and 75 places respectively are now now under construction at St. Albans and Watford. None of these will be residential.

    asked the Minister of Health where it is proposed to build adult training centres for the mentally subnormal in Hertfordshire during the next 10 years; how many are under construction at the moment; how many residential places will be provided in each centre; and how many non-residential places will be made available in each centre.

    The county council's plan provides for centres at Hoddesdon, St. Albans and Welwyn Garden City with 100 places each, and at Stevenage and Watford with 120 places each. A centre with 80 places is now under construction at Hemel Hempstead. None of these will be residential.

    asked the Minister of Health where it is proposed to build hostels for the mentally subnormal in the next 10 years in Hertfordshire; and how many residential places will be provided in each hostel.

    The county council's plan provides for such hostels as follows:

    • Bushey—one with 20 places.
    • Hemel Hempstead—one with 20 places.
    • Hitchin—two with 30 places each.
    • Hoddesdon—three with 30 places each.
    • St. Albans—one with 30 and one with 20 places.
    • Stevenage—one with 30 places.
    • Watford—one with 30 places.
    • Welwyn Garden City—one with 8 and one with 30 places.

    Invalid Tricycles (Garages)

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that the recovery of those crippled in accidents or by disease is impeded by the enforcement of the rule prohibiting the issue of a car if there is no garage for it to be kept in, in respect of those who apply for a free three-wheeled invalid car under the National Health Service; and if he will take action to remedy this position.

    No. A motor tricycle may be supplied before a garage is available if it is urgently required and if parking facilities exist.

    asked the Minister of Health how many disabled men and women are at present staying in rehabilitation centres because homes with garages cannot be found for them.

    I know of none but if the hon. Member has any particular case in mind. I will gladly make inquiries.

    Dentists' Remuneration (Review Body)

    asked the Minister of Health what aspects of the remuneration and terms of service of dental practitioners are at present under examination by the Review Body; when the examination began; and when he expects to receive recommendations.

    The Review Body has stated its intention to give further thought to the basis of remuneration of general dental practitioners and to possible alternatives to the present system, so that if it could find a more satisfactory system it would be able to consider recommending it in a subsequent review. I cannot say when any recommendations will be made.

    Hospitals

    Patients (Privacy)

    71.

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that lack of privacy is a hardship to some patients in general wards of National Health Service hospitals; and how far expert advice has been sought in devising means to deal with this problem.

    Yes. The Ministry's Building Note on Ward Units allows for at least 20 per cent. of beds to be in single rooms. All hospital boards were consulted on this standard, which is also in line with the Report by the Committee on Staphylococcal Infections in Hospitals.

    Hospital Engineers (Salaries)

    72.

    asked the Minister of Health when he now expects agreement upon the hospital engineers' salary revaluation.

    Hospital Facilities, Ipswich And East Anglia

    asked the Minister of Health what study he has made of the evidence, sent to him by the hon. Member for Sudbury and Woodbridge, concerning deficiencies in the hospital facilities available in the area of the Ipswich and East Anglia Hospital Board; and if he will receive a deputation, at an early date, supported by senior consultant and nursing staff, to express their views on the subject.

    I have considered all the material sent to me at the instance of my hon. Fiend. The regional board, which is responsible for deciding priorities among competing claims on their resources and for planning the hospital services of the area, is examining various possibilities and would be glad to receive any further suggestions.

    Royal Air Force

    Trooping And Freighter Aircraft

    75.

    asked the Secretary of State for Air what additional short-range and long-range trooping and freighter aircraft have been introduced into Transport Command during 1963–64; and what additions are planned for introduction during 1964–65.

    One Argosy aircraft and a squadron of Wessex helicopters have been added to the medium- and short-range transport resources of Transport Command in 1963–64. More Argosies are planned to be introduced in 1964–65.

    Transport Command (Accidents)

    76.

    asked the Secretary of State for Air if he will state the accident rate of Transport Command for each year since its inception, specifying the number of aircraft accidents, the number of fatalities, and the accident rate per million passenger miles.

    It is not the practice to give information about accident rates for R.A.F. aircraft. I can, however, say that in the last 10 years there has been only one accident in the transport squadrons of Transport Command in which passengers have been killed. Details of this were given to the House on 6th March, 1957.

    Leave Travel (Bea)

    asked the Secretary of State for Air if he will take steps to negotiate an agreement with British European Airways for leave travel by officers and other ranks of the Royal Air Force similar to the arrangements he has negotiated with British Railways for rates of travel which are not available to the public.

    For reasons which have already been explained to my hon. and learned Friend this would not be practicable.

    Hong Kong

    Chinese (Admission)

    77.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Chinese people are admitted to Hong Kong from the Chinese mainland per day, or per week, to remain as residents or to pass through; whether they have to receive visas from the Chinese Government; and how many are admitted as refugees without visas.

    My right hon. Friend is consulting the Governor and will write to the hon. Member when the information is available.

    Royal Navy

    Self-Loading Rifles

    asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty whether self-loading rifles are to be issued to the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force; and with what rifle of what calibre they are to be armed.

    The Royal Marines, Royal Air Force Regiment Units and certain elements of short-range transport formations of the Royal Air Force are already equipped with the 7.62 mm. F.N. self-loading rifle.The rifle used by other combatant elements of the Royal Air Force and carried in Her Majesty's ships for the equipment of seaman landing parties are No. 4 303" Lee-Enfield.

    Rosyth Dockyard

    asked the Civil Lord of the Admiralty what expenditure on plant, machinery, buildings and civil engineering, respectively, is proposed for Her Majesty's Dockyard, Rosyth, in the next three years.

    It is planned to spend about £1·3 million on plant and machinery and £1·75 million on building and civil engineering at Rosyth Dockyard in the next three years.

    Ministry Of Aviation

    Wasp Helicopters (Republic Of South Africa)

    asked the Minister of Aviation when the South African authorities placed an order in this country for six anti-submarine Wasp helicopters; whether these helicopters can be fitted with machine guns, carry light loads of military equipment, act as ground-air liaison machines, and carry out reconnaissance; what is the name of the manufacturers; what is the purchase price; what was the date when permission for the export of these helicopters was granted by Her Majesty's Government; and what were the dates when they were exported.

    The Wasp helicopter is manufactured by the Westland Aircraft Company. It is designed to carry only naval weapons but in its rearch and rescue rôle can also carry two casualties. It is not designed to carry machine guns and would need substantial development and modification for that purpose. In common with all helicopters it could be used for ground-air liaison and reconnaissance duties. The contract in question was signed in July, 1962. The formal export licences were issued between October, 1963, and January, 1964, and the first four machines were shipped during January, 1964. It is not the policy of Her Majesty's Government to disclose the purchase price of arms orders.

    Accidents

    asked the Minister of Aviation if he will state the number of people killed and seriously injured in scheduled air services and chartered aircraft accidents separately, for each of the last five years, and up to the latest convenient date in the current year.

    The numbers of passengers and crew killed and seriously injured in the five years 1959 to 1963 inclusive, in accidents to aircraft on the British Register, engaged on public transport flights were as follows:

    KilledSeriously Injured
    1959
    Scheduled flights3
    Non-scheduled flights461
    1960
    Scheduled flights8
    Non-scheduled flights32
    1961
    Scheduled flights2926
    Non-scheduled flights73
    1962
    Scheduled flights135
    Non-scheduled flights1123
    1963
    Scheduled flights2
    Non-scheduled flights
    1964 (up to 1st March)
    Scheduled flights83
    Non-scheduled flights
    In addition, two ground staff were killed, one in 1962 and one in 1963, when they walked into turning propellers, and a traffic clerk was seriously injured in 1963, when he fell from an aircraft as it was about to leave the apron.

    T188 Aircraft

    asked the Minister of Aviation on what date reports were first received from the manufacturers indicating that the T188 aircraft would not achieve its designed speed.

    There has never been any reason to think that the Bristol T188 would not in the course of development have achieved its full designed speed. As the hon. Member was informed on 27th February the aircraft has yielded a good deal of valuable information. A review of the programme in the light of changing requirements showed that the time and cost involved in carrying it through as originally planned would be excessive in relation to the value of the additional information it would yield, and it was therefore terminated. Proposals for further tests with the T188 are now under consideration.

    Armed Forces (Pensions)

    asked the Minister of Defence what proposals he has for increasing the pensions of Service men retired before 31st January, 1964, following the recently announced increases in pay for the Armed Forces.

    I have nothing to add to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary to the hon. Member for Brighton, Kemptown (Mr. David James) on 3rd February last.

    Education

    Teachers (Subnormal Children)

    asked the Minister of Education how many specialists there are in the teaching of educationally subnormal children.

    A total of 1,454 teachers have attended or are attending one year supplementary or special advanced courses in the teaching of handicapped pupils—other than blind, deaf or partially hearing. Some of these teachers have since undertaken other work or left the profession. There are also shorter courses organised by the Ministry and by Institutes of Education and local education authorities, but the number of teachers who have attended these is not known.

    Personal Case

    asked the Minister of Education if he is aware that a penalty of £50 has been imposed by the Cardiff education authority on parents prematurely withdrawing a child from high school; and by what authority such penalties are imposed on parents by local education authorities.

    I have no knowledge of any particular case. I am aware that in common with a number of other local education authorities Cardiff require parents of a child entering grammar school to sign an undertaking to keep him in school until the end of the school year in which he reaches the age of 16. This is not a requirement under the Education Acts. Such an agreement and its enforcement is a matter entirely between the local education authority and the parents concerned.

    Secondary Schools, Cardiff (Reorganisation)

    asked the Minister of Education whether he will carry out an investigation into the merits of the changes proposed in the education structure of the city of Cardiff.

    The Cardiff Education authority has now referred to my Department its proposals for the reorganisation of its secondary schools. All aspects of the scheme are being considered and the authority will be advised of my views as soon as possible.

    Examinations, Cardiff

    asked the Minister of Education what plans he has for sending his inspectors to investigate the suitability of the present system of school examinations in the city of Cardiff.

    I have no plans for such an investigation. Such examinations are entirely within the discretion of the authority.

    Foreign Language Courses (Business Firms)

    asked the Minister of Education what steps he is taking to encourage further education colleges to provide short intensive courses in foreign languages for business firms, with the emphasis on oral proficiency.

    A number of colleges already provide intensive language courses of this kind and many have installed, or plan to install, language laboratories. I am sending a circular to local education authorities and colleges today asking them to extend the provision of such courses, and in particular to put on special courses for small numbers of students at times and in places convenient to business firms where a demand exists for such a service. The circular contains detailed information about the facilities available for instruction in foreign languages other than the four main Western European languages and Russian, for which facilities are available on a wide scale. It also asks the colleges to continue and extend the provision of short courses in various aspects of exporting. The Federation of British Industries, which has been consulted in the preparation of the circular, believes that the informa- tion it contains will be helpful to business firms and proposes to draw attention to it at an early date in an appropriate publication of its own.

    Home Department

    Approved Schools (Adolescent Girls)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many adolescent girls with behaviour difficulties are resident in approved schools due to the shortage of suitable boarding schools.

    Local Government

    Local Authority Developments (Planning Permission)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many of the planning permissions granted in 1962 were for developments by local authorities.

    Industry, Trade And Regional Development

    Engineering Products

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development what has been the average annual rate of increase, expressed as a percentage, of exports of all kinds of engineering products over the last five years; and what have been the corresponding percentage figures for engineering imports.

    The annual percentage increases were as follows:

    UNITED KINGDOM TRADE IN ENGINEERING PRODUCTS* PERCENTAGE CHANGE OVER PREVIOUS YEAR
    19591960196119621963
    Imports2137885
    United Kingdom Exports67739
    Over the five years 1958–1963, the average compound rates of increase were 15 per cent. for imports and 6 per cent. for exports.
    * Section 7 plus Division 86 of the Trade Accounts.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development what was the average price per ton of engineering exports of all kinds in 1963; and what was the corresponding figure for this class of imports.

    For a large range of engineering products, weight is not recorded. It is estimated, however, that, excluding new aircraft and sea-going vessels, imports were valued at approximately £1,100 per ton and United Kingdom exports at approximately £900 per ton in 1963.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development if he will express as a percentage the increase of exports of engineering products of all kinds during the last three months over the corresponding three months of 1962–63; and if he will give the corresponding figure for imports of engineering products of all kinds.

    The increases in the value of trade in engineering products—Section 7 plus Division 86 of the Trade Accounts —during the three months ended January, 1964, compared with the three months ended January, 1963, were 10 per cent. and 22 per cent. for United Kingdom exports and imports respectively.

    North-West England And West Midlands (Regional Studies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development if he will make a statement about the proposed regional studies of North-West England and the West Midlands.

    The North West Study will cover the standard region (Lancashire, Cheshire, and the High Peak District of Derbyshire); and also Cumberland and Westmorland. The West Midlands Study will cover Warwickshire, Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Herefordshire and Shropshire.Each study will include an examination of the principal economic and related social characteristics and trends in the areas in question and will pay particular attention to population change, employment, land use and communications.

    These studies will be carried out, under the direction of the interdepartmental steering group on regional development, by officials of the Departments concerned at headquarters and in the regions—in particular, the Board of Trade and the Ministries of Housing and Local Government, Labour and Transport.

    There will be close consultation with regional interests, including in particular the planning authorities and other local authorities concerned, the Regional Boards for Industry and the principal development associations. Arrangements will also be made to obtain the views of the universities, industrialists and others concerned with regional development in these areas.

    Science

    Pesticides

    asked the Lord President of the Council and Minister for Science what research is being carried out into the possibility of synergism and the potential effects of commonly used pesticidess with such commonly used drugs as sedatives, tranquillizers, analgesics and steroid hormones, which are administered over prolonged periods, in man.

    The Research Committee on Toxic,Chemicals—the Frazer Committee—has recently drawn attention to the need to evaluate further the toxicological significance of the presence of pesticides in human body tissues. This evaluation will fall primarily to the Medical Research Council which will have regard to the particular problem raised by the hon. Member.

    Pensions And National Insurance

    National Assistance

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what was the average weekly supplement received from the National Assistance Board during 1963 by those in receipt of such supplements to their National Insurance retirement pension.

    22s. 3d. in December, 1963. This figure is obtained only once a year.

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance how many weekly allowances were paid by the National Assistance Board in the week ended 31st December 1963; how many of these allowances were paid as a supplement to those already receiving some form of National Insurance benefits; and how many were paid as a supplement to those receiving retirement benefit.

    1,970,750 weekly allowances from the National Assistance Board were in payment on 17th December, 1963; 1,406,650 of these were to people already receiving national insurance benefits, including 1,100,348 to people who are receiving retirement pensions.

    Scotland

    Hospitals (Staffing Structure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what increases in consultant and supporting staff, expressed in numbers of whole-time equivalents and in percentages, are recommended by the committee appointed to review the medical staffing structure of Scottish hospitals; whether he accepts the recommendations; and how long he anticipates it will take to implement them.

    The consultant staff in post at the end of 1961—when the Wright Committee started work—consisted of 513 whole-time and 448 part-time consultants, in addition to 136 with honorary contracts. These figures include about 90 senior hospital medical officers in receipt of special allowances for doing work of consultant status. The Committee's recommendations would involve an addition of about 260 posts, whole-time and part-time, to these figures. It also recommended that normally all part-time posts should be on the maximum of nine sessions; this would in itself involve increasing the effective consultant establishment by the equivalent of about 40 posts. As regards supporting staff, the Committee's recommendations involve an increase of about 250 posts over 1961.Iam at present discussing the Report with the interests concerned and I can- not yet say when I shall be able to reach a decision on the recommendations, or how long it would take to implement them it accepted.

    A7 Road (Improvement)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that for some years proposals have been made for the improvement of trunk road A.7 at Howdenburn and Wilton Hill, and at The Dunk, to the north and south of Hawick, Roxburghshire: and what proposals he now has for eliminating the existing dangers, which have resulted in serious accidents in recent weeks, one of which was fatal.

    In 1958 a scheme was prepared for improving the northern approach to Hawick on A.7 at a cost then estimated at £120,000 but I am not aware of any proposal for the southern approach at the "Dunk".A.7 carries relatively light traffic and I have not been able to give priority to any large schemes on it. I am, however, considering whether some less expensive improvement is possible.

    Fishing Industry, Aberdeen

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the average number of fish caught weekly by Aberdeen trawlers and sold in Aberdeen fish market during each of the last 10 years.

    Figures of landings at Aberdeen are not separately available for Aberdeen trawlers. Figures of the average weekly weight of white fish landed at Aberdeen by British trawlers in each of the years 1954 to 1963, and sold in Aberdeen fish market were as follows:

    Average Weekly Landing of White Fish at Aberdeen by British Trawlers
    Yearcwt.
    195428,082
    195527,067
    195628,032
    195730,026
    195829,774
    195927,587
    196023,787
    196125,185
    196225,678
    196326,767

    Roads

    Road Signs (Regulations)

    asked the Minister of Transport, by what date he expects to implement the recommendation of the Worboys Committee on the use of pictorial signs in place of written instructions.

    I said on 25th November that following necessary consultation with representative organisations I hoped it would be possible to lay before the House in July the new Regulations implementing the recommendations of the Worboys Committee. These recommendations were of course very radical and the consultations are taking longer than expected. It is therefore unlikely now that the Regulations will be ready before September.

    British Army

    Leave Travel (Bea)

    asked the Secretary of State for War if he will take steps to negotiate an agreement with British European Airways for leave travel by officers and other ranks of the Army similar to the arrangements he has negotiated with British Railways for rates of travel which are not available to the public.

    For reasons which have already been explained to my hon. and learned Friend, this would not be practicable.

    Rifles, Cyprus (Repair)

    asked the Secretary of State for War why rifles have to be brought back to the United Kingdom from Cyprus for repairs; how many armourers would be needed to maintain 10,000 self loading rifles in the field; and whether there are sufficient armourers trained for that work.

    There is no shortage of fully-trained armourers in Cyprus. A small number of rifles have to be sent back to this country because their repair requires plant or facilities which it would be uneconomic to set up locally. 46 armourers would be required to maintain 10,000 self-loading rifles in the field.

    Discharges

    asked the Secretary of State for War what is the wastage by discharge from the British Army of the Rhine; and what proportion of recently enlisted men is discharged in the first 12 months of their engagement.

    The number discharged from the British Army of the Rhine in 1963 for any reason, including normal termination of their engagement, was about 4,500.In the Army as a whole about 28 per cent. of recruits waste out in the first 12 months of their engagement, but about two-thirds of these go in the first three months of their engagement.In 1963, the wastage in the Army as a whole was 8·8 per cent., compared with 9 per cent. in 1962.