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Volume 693: debated on Tuesday 14 April 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 14th April, 1964

Housing

Interest Charges, Newcastle-Under-Lyme

31.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what was the average cost of interest charges per week for each council dwelling in Newcastle-under-Lyme in each year since 1951 for which figures are available.

The only figures I can give are the total amounts paid in interest charges on housing account each year averaged over the council's stock of dwellings. They are as follows:

Total interest charges borne on Housing Revenue Account expressed as weekly sum per dwelling included in the Account
s.d.
1950–5178
1951–52711½
1952–5390
1953–54103
1954–55111
1955–56123
1956–5714
1957–5816
1958–59168
1959–60167
1960–61184
1961–62217
1962–63219

Houses, Oldham (Outside Closets)

36.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs in how many houses in the County Borough of Oldham, according to the latest housing survey, outside closets are available only to more than one occupied house.

Improvement Grants (Water Closets)

37.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what grants are available for the construction by a tenant of an internal water closet in replacement of an outside water closet.

I have written to the hon. Member to explain the circum- stances in which house owners, but not tenants, may obtain grants for improvements which include the provision of an inside water closet.

Interest Charges, West Ham

41.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will now ask the County Borough of West Ham to supply him with details of the average cost of interest charges per week for each council house in 1951 and each subsequent year to date; and if he will then publish this information in HANSARD.

The following table shows the interest charges borne on the Corporation's Housing Revenue Account in each financial year from 1951–52 to 1962–63, expressed as a weekly sum per dwelling included in the Account at the end of the year.I do not think that any useful purpose would be served by seeking further information from the Council.

Total interest charges borne on Housing Revenue Account expressed as weekly sum per dwelling included in the Account.
per week
s.d.
1951–5288
1952–5399
1953–54113
1954–55120
1955–56148
1956–57172
1957–58193
1958–59212
1959–60217
1960–612411
1961–62293
1962–63314
Number of dwellings used in the calculations are taken from "Housing Statistics", published by the Institute of Municipal Treasurers and Accountants.

Homeless Families (Accommodation)

43.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs by what minimum standards in respect of space and other domestic necessities he is guided in fulfilling his responsibility for providing accommodation for homeless families.

The responsibility for providing temporary accommodation under the National Assistance Act, 1948, rests with the County and county borough councils and is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health.

Land (Cardiff, Swansea, Newport And Merthyr Tydfil)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what was the acreage of land purchased for house

19511963
AcreagePriceAcreagePrice
££
Cardiff County Borough Council749·94094,03371·433200,560
Swansea County Borough CouncilNilNil4·8261,070
Newport County Borough Council265·40417,42817·73512,423
Merthyr Tydfil County Borough CouncilNilNil1·652,372

Interest Charges, Swansea

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what were the amounts paid in interest charges by the County Borough of Swansea in each of the years from 1951 to 1963.

During the period the council's loan debt more than doubled as a result of its continued activity in housing and other fields.The figures

* are as follows:

Year

Total Interest

£

1951–52404,738
1952–53451,089
1953–54502,155
1954–55556,765
1955–56633,735
1956–57709,327
1957–58776,944
1958–59832,607
1959–60880,082
1960–61977,731
1961–621,117,459
1962–631,261,623

* Source: Epitomes of Accounts.

Private Houses, Wales

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what was the number of privately-built houses in

building by the four Welsh County Boroughs of Cardiff, Swansea, Newport, and Merthyr Tydfil, respectively, in 1951; what was the cost of this land purchase; and what were the comparable figures for 1963.

The following table shows the acreage and cost of land purchased for house-building by the County Boroughs of Cardiff, Newport, Swansea and Merthyr Tydfil in 1951 and 1963.Where no figures are given there were no purchases.Wales in each of the years from 1951 to 1963, and the number in each year built to let for rent.

The following table gives the number of private houses built in Wales in each year.I have no figures available of the number built to let, but they would be very small as most are built for owner-occupation.

YearNo. of private houses built in Wales
19511,240
19521,574
19532,258
19542,644
19553,136
19563,645
19574,125
19584,174
19594,968
19606,078
19617,019
19627,501
19637,609

Local Government

Holly House Lane Hostel, Pontypridd

34.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he is aware of the concern felt by the residents living near the proposed hostel for subnormal youths at Holly House Lane, Pontypridd, arising from his letter saying that he could not help to revoke the planning permission for this hostel scheme; if he will review the matter; and if he will make a statement.

I am aware of the representations made and of the disappointment at my refusal to revoke the planning permission for this hostel. The objections put forward were carefully considered before I took my decision and I see no reason to review the matter.

Green Belt (Policy)

35.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will give an assurance that the present green belt on the south-western side outside London will be maintained as such, and not used for any other purpose.

As was stated in the White Paper South-East England the approved metropolitan green belt will be maintained and substantial additions will be made to it. Local planning authorities have been asked to consider the possibility of allowing development of such land as there is in the green belt which contributes little of value to it, but such changes if any as result from this will not be more than marginal.

Malvern Town Map

40.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs when he expects to publish his decision on the inquiry into the Malvern Town Map; and when the map will be made available for public inspection.

My right hon. Friend has a number of modifications in mind. His Department will shortly be writing about these to the county and urban district councils with a view to arranging a meeting to discuss them. My right hon. Friend cannot at present say how long it will be before he can publish his proposals.

Land, West Ham

42.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs why he has no information as to the amount of land taken over by the County Borough of West Ham for housing, schools and other public services from 1951 to date, together with the costs involved; what action he has taken during the last month to obtain this information from the West Ham Council; and whether he will now request this Council to supply him with all relevant information.

Local authorities can acquire land without my consent. Nor is a running record kept of acquisition by particular authorities made with consent. My Department does not therefore have the information for which the hon. Member asks. I have not asked the county borough for it because it does not seem to me that information in this form would have any real value.

Burial And Cremation

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what interested bodies he is consulting about the amendment of the law relating to burial and cremation; and when he now expects the consultations to be completed.

Consultations so far have been principally with Government Departments. My right hon. Friend will also be seeking the views of local authority associations, religious authorities, and organisations concerned with aspects of burial or cremation. Since the problems involved are complex these consultations may take several months.

Rating (Interim Relief) Act

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what amount of grant will be available to the rating authority in Birkenhead in respect of old people under the Rating (Interim Relief) Act.

I cannot estimate how much any local authority will receive in total as a result of the Act because this; will depend in part on the use which they make of their powers to remit rates on grounds of hardship.I estimate the grant payable to the council under Section 1 of the Act for 1964–65 at about £6,650. This figure is based on 1961 data and is subject to revision in the light of later information.

Uganda

Deported Civil Servants (Pay And Pensions)

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what action he is now taking on the pay and pensions of the eight civil servants recently deported from Uganda; and what representations have now been made about suspending the deportation orders on the other six deportees.

In Kampala our High Commissioner has kept in constant touch with the Uganda Government about the cases of these civil servants. I am now informed that the appointments of the permanent and pensionable officers involved have been terminated in accordance with the regulations. Pay and pensions earned have not thereby been prejudiced. The appointments of the contract officers have been terminated in accordance with the terms of their contracts.As regards the second part of the Question I would refer my hon. Friend to what I said in the debate on 13th February on the subject of deportation.

Southern Rhodesia

University (Future)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what decisions were reached by the conference, at which his Department was represented, on the future of the medical school and teaching hospital attached to the University College at Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia; and what action is proposed to associate the Governments of Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland with the school and hospital and to increase the number of African students.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies whether a decision has now been reached about the future of the university in Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia.

The discussions were, I understand, still in progress this morning and until the outcome is known I am not in a position to make a statement.

Political Prisoners (United Nations Resolution)

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what action he has taken to further the realisation of the resolution adopted by 21 votes to nil on 24th March by the special committee of the United Nations General Assembly calling on Britain to ensure the release of all political prisoners in Southern Rhodesia.

The British Government are not responsible for the internal affairs of Southern Rhodesia.

Yemen

Harib Fort (Raf Attack)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies why he consented to the military attack on the township of Harib in tie Yemen Republic on 28th March; how many lives were lost; what damage was caused to property; and what representations have been received from the Government of the Yemen about the incident.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Prime Minister's full statement on 9th April.There was no attack on the township of Harib. We do not know how many casualties were suffered by Yemeni military personnel in Harib fort. We regret any loss of life which may have occurred despite the warning given by leaflet.Most of the upper storey of the fort was damaged and some damage was also caused to the lower storey, and to certain guns.Representations have been received from the Yemeni Republican authorities.

Malta

Referendum Observers

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies if he will now state the names of the observers he is sending to Malta in connection with the referendum.

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies when he will name the observers to advise him on whether the referendum to be held in Malta takes place under conditions which are fair and free.

My right hon. Friend announced these in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) on 10th April.

Cyprus

Greek And Turkish Communities

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what steps he takes to ascertain the views of all interests and communities in the island of Cyprus.

The views of the principal communities in Cyprus are well known and were made clear during the London Conference in January. It is now, however, for the United Nations mediator, in accordance with the Security Council Resolution of 4th March to ascertain and consider the various opinions held in order to promote a peaceful solution to the problem confronting Cyprus.

United Nations Peace-Keeping Force

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies whether he has yet received the directive for British troops serving under United Nations Command in Cyprus; and whether he is satisfied that its terms are sufficiently precise for a military force.

The position was stated by my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary in reply to a Question by the hon. and learned Member for Brigg (Mr. E. L. Mallalieu) on 13th April.

Maldive Islands

Situation

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what steps he is taking to restore amicable relations with the Government of the Maldive Islands.

My right hon. Friend is in correspondence with the Maldivian Prime Minister. He hopes to be in a position to make an early statement.

Central Africa

Economic Co-Operation

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what progress has been made in developing economic co-operation in Central Africa.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Ayr (Sir T. Moore) on Thursday, 16th January.

St Lucia

Legislative Council (Dissolution)

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies whether he will make a statement on the constitutional crisis in St. Lucia and the refusal of the Government to summon the Legislative Council despite the request of a majority of members.

Two members of the St. Lucia Government resigned from it on 2nd April. This left a confused position and on the advice of the Chief Minister the Administrator dissolved the Legislative Council on 6th April. Under the Constitution there was no need to summon a meeting of the Legislative Council before dissolution.

Zanzibar

Sultan

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what provision Her Majesty's Government is making for the Sultan of Zanzibar to settle permanently in the United Kingdom.

I have nothing to add at present to the Answer given to my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Eye (Sir H. Harrison) on 27th January but I hope to be able to make a further statement shortly.

High Commission Territories

Exports

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will state, for the three latest years for which figures are available, the exports of Bechuanaland, Basutoland and Swaziland, by commodity and by destination for each commodity.

BECHUANALAND: EXPORTS BY COMMODITY AND DESTINATION
CommodityYearTotal QuantityTotal ValueDestination
Federation of Rhodesia and NyasalandRepublic of South AfricaOthers
£s'000 SterlingPer cent.Per cent.Per cent.
Sorghum (000 bags of 200 lb.)19600·230·35100
1961179268100
19628·719·6100
Citrus ('000 packets of 37 lb.)196015·07·38911
1961n.a.n.a.n.a.n.a.n.a.
196215·07·48911
Beans and Pulses ('000 bags of 200 lb.)19605·711·5100
196168·1170100
19621·36·4100
Groundnuts ('000 bags of 200 lb.)19602·210·2100
196133·4157100
19625·829·2100
Wheat ('000 bags of 200 lb.)19601·23·0100
19612·45·9100
19620·170·43100
Millet ('000 bags of 200 lb.)19600·080·11199
19616·19·2100
19620·280·41100
Sunflower Seed ('000 bags of 200 lb.)19600·771·6100
19612·74·1100
19623·73·7100
Cotton (bales)1960
19611432·1100
1962
Timber (short tons)19604001·8100
1961
1962
Flower Bulbs (tons)1960803·0100
1961
1962
Butter ('000 lb.)196013721·8100
196135061·3100
196259·17·7100
Butter Fat ('000 lb.)196015423·5694
196140660·74555
196236048·25149
Cattle, live ('000 head)19607·9151100
196112·7236100
196218·8315100
Cattle Carcasses ('000 lb.)196036,0181,5784159
196136,8131,6582278
196244,3012,046154837

pursuant to his reply [OFFICIAL REPORT, 9th December, 1963; Vol. 686, c. 43]. supplied the following information.

CommodityYearTotal QuantityTotal ValueDestination
Federation of Rhodesia and NyasalandRepublic of South AfricaOthers
£s'000 SterlingPer cent.Per cent.Per cent.
Sheep and Goats19602,6129·5892
19613000·60100
1962640·15100
Pigs19601,2829·2100
19619228·2100
19624362·9100
Poultry19605,4311·5100
19618150·21100
19627,9381·9100
Hides ('000 lb.)19601,38293·7143551
19617,02827626038
19626,23626291378
Skins, Sheep and Goats ('000 pieces)196040·710·727424
1961119·010·2928
196239·810·280713
Skins and Karosses, Wild Animals ('000 pieces)19600·161·418118
196148·443·597714
196226·225·9256114
Miscellaneous Animal Products1960n.a.64·412799
1961n.a.35·7991
1962n.a.42·12674
Abattoir By-products1960n.a.46918712
1961n.a.1391918
1962n.a.169304921
Bones ('000 lb.)19601540·77100
1961
1962
Gold (oz.)19602032·5100
19612613·2100
19622883·5100
Silver (oz.)1960250·01100
1961390·01100
1962330·01100
Asbestos ('000 short tons)19601·8132100
19611·91611090
19621·9136n.a.n.a.n.a.
Manganese ('000 short tons)196014·270·8100
196124·8144496
196225·782·3100
Bonemeal1960
1961n.a.19·6100
1962
n.a. = not available.
— = nil or negligible.

BASUTOLAND, EXPORTS BY QUANTITY, VALUE AND DESTINATION
CommodityYearTotal QuantityTotal Value £'s '000 SterlingDestination
Wheat and Flour ('000 bags of 200 lb.).196039·3n.a.Republic of South Africa and Overseas
196125·7n.a.
196222·8n.a.
Sorghum (000 bags of 200 lb.)19605·87·6
19611·63·7
19621·31·3
Peas and Beans ('000 bags of 200 lb.)196013·152·5
19615·725·8
19627·430·8
Cattle ('000)196010·4186·8
19618·5105·3
19628·8185·4
Horses and Mules1960340·37
1961330·35
1962880·97
Sheep and Goats ('000)19603·27·9
19612·16·9
19621·44·8
Wool ('000 lb.)19606,786731·5
19617,356804·7
19628,523869·4
Mohair ('000 lb.)19601,181329·4
19611,266354·3
19621,512357·3
Hides ('000 units)196030·124·0
196111·712·0
196213·23·2
Skins ('000 units)196067·621·5
196180·622·6
196236·61·7
Bones ('000 lb.)1960578n.a.
1961720n.a.
1962539n.a.
Symbols: n.a. = not available.
— = nil or negligibe.

SWAZILAND. EXPORTS BY COMMODITY AND DESTINATION
CommodityYearTotal quantityTotal value £'000 SterlingDestination
U.K.Fedn. Rhodesia and NyasalandRepublic of South AfricaOthers
per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
Sugar ('000 short tons)196036·51,780·0n.a.n.a.n.a.n.a.
196158·61,844·0n.a.n.a.n.a.n.a.
196262·02,991·0216910
Canned Fruit. Mainly Pineapples ('000 short tons).19601·6126·59622
19611·6114·564297
19623·9169·5687178
Seed Cotton ('000 short tons)19604·2267·0100
19615·3359·5100
19623·0206·5100
Rice. Paddy ('000 short tons)19604·2162·5100
19614·0195·0100
19623·9305·0100
Citrus ('000 short tons)19600·8234·0Marketed on instructions received from the South Africa Citrus Exchange which sells mainly to the U.K. and Europe. Market recently extended to Canada.
19612·955·0
19624·3103·5
Bananas ('000 crates of 100 lb.)196032·230·5100
196111·136·0100
19622·128·5100
Tobacco ('000 lb.)196095949·0100
196143524·0100
196263434·0100
Cattle for slaughter ('000 head)196017·1514·0100
196121·1633·5100
196221·2636·5100
Hides and Skins ('000 pieces)196061·032·5100
196168·237·0100
196256·035·0100
Asbestos ('000 short tons)196032·02,787·070228
196130·82,535·072199
196232·82,470·0692011
Gold ('000 fine oz.)19600·8110·0100
19611·317·0100
19622·227·5100
Timber and Timber Products:—
Planed and Sawn Timber ('000 cu. ft.)1960168600·0n.a.n.a.n.a.n.a.
Raw and Veneered Particle Board ('000 sq.ft.)19603,228
Door Styles and Doars ('000 units)1960698
Wattle Bark ('000 short tons)19607·3
Planed and Sawn Timber ('000 cu. Ft.)1961363329·719263916
Raw and Veneered Particle Board ('000 sq. ft.)19614,886
Door Styles and Doors ('000 units)1961726
Wattle Bark ('000 short tons)19611·4

CommodityYearTotal quantityTotal value £'000 SterlingU.K.Destination
Fedn. Rhodesia and NyasalandRepublic of South AfricaOthers
per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
Planed and Sawn Timber ('000 cu. Ft.)19621,472420·0711874
Raw and Veneered Particle Board ('000 sq.ft.)19622,427
Door Styles and Doors ('000 units)1962n.a.
Wattle Bark ('000 short tons)19622·5
Butter and Butter Products:—
Butter Fat ('000 lbs.)196030·865·0100
Butter ("000 lbs.)1960427
Butter Fat ('000 lbs.)196133·055·0100
Butter (000 lbs.)1961387
Butter Fat ('000 lbs.)196227·132·5100
Butter ('000 lbs.)1962239
Symbols: n.a. = not available
— = nil or negligible.

Statutes Revised

56.

asked the Attorney-General when the Statutes Revised were last printed; and if he will take steps to print an up-to-date edition.

The Third Edition of the Statutes Revised, in 32 volumes, and the Church Assembly Measures Revised, in one volume, were printed over a period from 1947 to 1951 and were published simultaneously in January, 1951. Annual volumes have since been published and arrangements for noting-up ensure that the edition can be kept up to date.The Government do not think that there is any need for a new Edition of the Statutes Revised at present.

National Finance

Income Tax (Territorial Army Pay)

57.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to what extent his Department has not levied Income Tax on Territorial Army pay in the last 10 years; what new instructions on the subject were issued in 1963; and why he is now attempting to levy such taxation in advance.

Territorial Army pay has always been liable to Income Tax. The only instruction issued to Inspectors on the point in 1963 dealt with the tax liability on the taxable bounty received by members of the Territorial Army Emergency Reserve. As regards the last part of the Question. I presume the hon. Member is thinking of arrangements made for spreading the tax due on the year's Territorial Army pay over the tax year, either by an adjustment of the P.A.Y.E. code number applicable to the taxpayer's full-time employment or by direct collection of the tax on Territorial Army earnings.

Tax-Free Toll Bridges

58.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what discussions he has had in the last two years with the owners of tax-free toll bridges with a view to reaching a mutually acceptable solution of the problem created by the legislation enacted in the 18th century which granted such owners tax exemption on the receipts from the bridges; and what were the results of such discussions.

Government Departments (Dispersal)

asked the Secretary to the Treasury which units of Government work it is now proposed to move away from London and the South-East; and what consideration is being given to the possibility of moving one or more of them to the Forth Valley or other locations in central Scotland.

Under present plans, three units, employing between 200 and 400 staff each, are to be moved away from the south of England. In selecting locations, consideration is being given to the claims of areas of high unemployment in the light both of their suitability for the purpose, and of a fair distribution of this work between such areas.

National Debt

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the amount of the National Debt in 1920, 1945, 1952 and 1963; and what was the amount per head of the population for each of those years.

The figures are:

Debt outstanding 31st March*Amount per head of population†
£'000£
19206,846,633147
194521,365,891434
195225,890,451513
196329,847,559556
NOTES:

* Excluding external debts arising out of the war of 1914–18.

† Based on estimated population.

Estate Duty (Form D1)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why the Estate Duty form D1 has space for only one jurat for the swearing of co-executors; and when he proposes to amend the form, having regard to the fact that the great majority of estates have more than one executor.

This form is in process of revision, and the point raised by my hon. Friend will be considered.

Trading Stamps (Stamp Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is the practice of his Department to charge Stamp Duty on trading stamps, whether or not contained in partially or wholly-filled trading stamp books, when such stamps are endorsed as exchangeable for cash.

Yemeni Republican Fort (Raf Attack)

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister what representations have been made to him by the United States Government about the raid on Fort Harib by the Royal Air Force; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member for Fife, West (Mr. W. Hamilton) on 9th April.

Questions To Ministers

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will arrange with Ministers whose Questions are not reached, and where the subject is of national importance and requiring action, to seek permission to answer after Questions.The Prime Minister: This is a matter which can only be decided by the responsible Minister in the light of all the circumstances of each case.

Ministry Of Aviation

Aldergrove Airport

asked the Minister of Aviation what is the reason for preventing passengers from aircraft arriving at gate 6 of the civil airport at Aldergrove in County Antrim from walking to their luggage on ground level without having to go up a ramp and come down stairs to reach the same place.

The object of the present arrangements is to get passengers away from aircraft manoeuvring areas and under cover as quickly as possible. An additional baggage claim area is to be built, opening directly on to the aircraft apron, which will enable passengers arriving at aircraft stand No. 6 to enter at ground level and collect their luggage.

Royal Navy

Dockyard, Devonport (Unskilled Labourers)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many unskilled labourers are employed in Her Majesty's Dockyard, Devonport; what is the basic weekly wage: and how many do not get any overtime.

There are about 740 unskilled labourers employed in Her Majesty's Dockyard, Devonport. The present basic wage of these workers, as from 1st April, 1964, is £10 3s. 0d. per week. Most of the unskilled labourers have the opportunity of working some overtime.I regret that it is not possible from the available records to distinguish readily how many of these men receive no overtime payments in any given period.

Hm Ships (Repair Work)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many of Her Majesty's ships are to be stationed and repaired in the Far East; how many were previously repaired in Her Majesty's Dockyard, Devonport; and what action is being taken to provide work to replace work on these ships.

It would not be in the public interest to disclose the numbers of ships to be stationed and repaired in the Far East.None of these ships was previously allocated specifically to Devonport for repair. The programme of ships to be repaired in the United Kingdom depends essentially upon the needs of the Fleet, and has invariably been arranged, after taking into account the welfare of the crews, so as to provide the best balance of work at the time for all the United Kingdom yards. This will continue to be the method of allocation in future.

Universities

University Teachers (Family Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what decision he has taken on continuing the payment of family allowances to university teacher; and whether he will make a statement.

The Government have accepted in principle the National Incomes Commission's recommendation that, subject to transitional arrangements safeguarding the position of staff who already have this benefit as a feature of their conditions of service, the practice of paying family allowances to university teachers should be discontinued, this being one of the conditions on which their salary proposals were based. I am awaiting the advice of the University Grants Committee on its detailed implementation (including the transitional arrangements) which is still under discussion.

Academic Staff (Salaries)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what guidance is being issued to universities on fixing the level of professorial salaries.

I have accepted in principle the ranges of salary for academic staff proposed by the National Incomes Commission. The University Grants Committee are discussing with the universities how to give effect to these recommendations.

Colleges Of Advanced Technology (Staff Gradings And Salary Levels)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether lie has decided on the gradings and salary levels in the university structure to which members of the staffs of colleges of advanced technology shall be transferred; and whether he will make a statement.

As I said in my statement to the How e on 26th March, so far as colleges of advanced technology are concerned, assimilation to the university grading structure and salary rates will be the subject of early discussions between my Department, the University Grants Committee, the colleges and their staffs, within the broad principles recommended by the National Incomes Commission These discussions have started already and will be energetically pursued.

Hospitals

Transfers

asked the Minister of Health if he will list those non-teaching hospitals which have been recently transferred, or are about to be

HospitalOperative dateHospital Management CommitteeBoard of GovernorsNumber of beds transferred
1. Bristol Homoeopathic1st April, 1964Bristol Homoeopathic (dissolved 31st March, 1964).United Bristol Hospitals.97
2. Dulwich1st April, 1964CamberwellKing's College Hospital.378
3. Lambeth1st July, 1964Lambeth GroupSt. Thomas' Hospital.502

Manchester Regional Hospital Board Employees (Special Leave)

asked the Minister of Health how many employees of the Manchester Regional Hospital Board are given leave to serve on local authorities as magistrates, or in any other public office.

Eighteen employees of Hospital Management Committees in the region are given leave for local government activities and 14 for magisterial duties.

Industry, Trade And Regional Development

Industrial Development, North-East Scotland

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development how many applications for assistance under the Local Employment Act are currently under consideration from the North-East of Scotland; and how many additional jobs they are expected to supply.

89 applications from development districts in North-East Scotland are currently under consideration; the additional employment is estimated at about 1,700.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development how many industrial projects in the North-East of Scotland development district have been

transferred, to boards of governors of teaching hospitals, indicating the operative date, the names of the hospital management committee and board of governors concerned in each case, and the number of beds transferred.

The list is as follows:materially assisted by Her Majesty's Government under the Local Employment Act since its inception; how much money has been spent; and how many jobs have been created thereby in the area.

24 industrial projects in development districts in North-Eastern Scotland have received assistance from the Government under the Local Employment Acts. The offers made amount to £429,145 and the additional employment is estimated at 790.

Channel Tunnel

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development if he is aware that the proposed Channel Tunnel will accentuate the concentration of international trade between Britain and the continent of Europe in the south of Britain at the expense of the North and Midlands and Scotland; and what plans he has for solving this problem.

I would refer the hon. Member to paragraph 23 of the White Paper on South-East England (Cmnd. 2308) published last month which sets out the Government's considered view on this matter.

Employment

Development Districts

asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of employed and unemployed in the development districts of Great Britain.

The total number of employees in the areas at present scheduled as development districts in Great Britain in mid-1963, employed and unemployed together, was 3,453,800. At the latest count, on 13th March, 1964, the number registered as unemployed was 161,358.

Post Office

Space Research And Satellite Communications

asked the Postmaster-General if he will list the various organisations concerned with space research and the development of satellite communications of which the United Kingdom is a member to what extent Her Majesty's Government have invested money in each of them to date; what is the British annual financial commitment; and what part the Post Office is playing in these developments.

As regards space research, the United Kingdom is a member of the European Space Research Organisation (E.S.R.O.) and the European Launcher Development Organisation (E.L.D.O.) Questions relating to these Organisations are, of course, primarily for my right hon. Friends the Secretary, of State for Education and Science and the Minister of Aviation respectively.The Post Office is continuing its work on the development of satellite earth stations and on the communications aspects of satellite communications systems as a whole. Together with the other interested Departments it is playing a full part in the work of the European Conference on Satellite Communications and in other international discussions on satellite communications.

asked the Postmaster-General what consultations he has now had with representatives of British industry who would be involved in the development of satellite communications; and to what extent such representatives have been brought in for consultations and advice on British commitments in the European Space Research Organisation, the European Launcher Development Organisation and in relation to discussions with the American Satellite Communications Corporation.

Last November my right hon. Friend the Minister of Aviation and I had an exchange of view with representatives of the British industry on policy in regard to the development of satellite communications. There has been some exchange of correspondence since, and I hope that a further meeting will be held fairly soon.Questions relating to the European Space Research Organisation and the European Launcher Development Organisation are, of course, primarily for my right hon. Friends the Secretary of State for Education and Science and the Minister of Aviation.

Research And Development

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is satisfied that the £2 million estimated by him to be spent by the parties to the bulk supply agreement on research and development is an adequate contribution, in view of the fact that the Post Office contribution on telecomnunications plant was £4 million in 1962–63; and if he will make a statement.

The comparison is invalid because the £4 million includes much expenditure outside the field covered by bulk supply agreements whereas the £2 million represents only that part of the expenditure of the parties which is reflected hi bulk supply agreement prices.

Telephone Service

Bull Supply Agreements

asked the Postmaster-General by what amount the price paid for dials and telephones without dials and other fittings, respectively, has been lower under the one-year reservation clause tendering than under the five-year bulk supply agreements.

I am afraid that to publish this information would prejudice competitive tendering.

asked the Postmaster-General what was the highest cost and lowest cost of production at the time of the last costing inquiry for telephones supplied under the bulk purchase agreements.

The firms' records from which the production costs are established are shown to my staff in confidence and I cannot, therefore, make the figures public.

Kiosks, London

asked the Postmaster-General how many telephone kiosks there are in the centre area of London; how many of these kiosks earned less than £250 last year; how many earned less than £350; how many earned less than £500; and how many earned more than £500.

The numbers of kiosks in the centre area of London in the last calendar year were as follows:

Total1,309
Receipts* less than:
£250420
£350770
£5001,010
Receipts* of £500 or more299
* Including approximate transferred charge calls.

Waiting List

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give an assurance that the clearing of the telephone waiting list by 1966 will not be achieved by short-term expedients and that adequate provision will be made in the laying of cable for long-term development.

The plans described in my recent White Paper on The Inland Telephone Service in an Expanding Economy (Cmnd. 2211) are intended to make adequate long-term provision, as well as to clear the waiting list by March, 1966.

Scotland

Edinburgh (Interest Charges)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what were the amounts spent in interest charges on housing by the City of Edinburgh for each of the years 1950 to 1963;(2) what were the amounts spent in interest charges by the City of Edinburgh for each of the years 1950 to 1963.

The figures are as follows:

Year to MayInterest Charges in respect of
HousingAll Services
££
1950279,425461,359
1951337,871545,521
1952394,809633,149
1953485,633769,142
1954641,879971,376
1955733,3571,116,255
1956853,1021,321,389
19571,059,9151,666,928
19581,269,4532,054,726
19591,297,1132,122,000
19601,410,8012,317,173
19611,605,6432,643,499
19621,875,8043,098,619
19632,000,8103,336,964

Shipping

International Regulations For Preventing Collisions At Sea

asked the Minister of Transport when the new Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea will come into force; and if he will make a statement.

The coming into force of the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea, 1960, requires "substantial unanimity" among the Governments concerned. It is for the Inter-Governmental Maritime Consultative Organisation (I.M.C.O.) to determine when this has been achieved and to fix a date which will be not less than one year afterwards. I understand that the Governments of 26 countries, representing about 57 per cent. of the world's merchant ships of 100 tons or more, have accepted the new Regulations so far.