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Volume 694: debated on Tuesday 28 April 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 28th April, 1964

Barbados

Federal Discussions

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies whether he will make a statement on the progress of discussions on the proposed federation of Barbados with seven other islands of the Caribbean group.

The Regional Council of Ministers met in Barbados from 15th to 18th April. The Council decided to meet again before agreeing to a date for a London Conference. The Ministers will inform the Chairman when they wish hint to convene this further meeting.

Tanganyika And Zanzibar

United Kingdom Representation

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what changes are proposed in United Kingdom representation in Tanganyika and Zanzibar as a result of the merger of the two territories into one sovereign state.

Rhodesia And Nyasaland

Federal Officers

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what further action has now been taken to extend assistance to officers of the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland suffering hardship as a result of the termination of their services.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply my hon. Friend gave today to the hon. Lady for Tyne-mouth (Dame Irene Ward).

Swaziland

Farm (Police Visit)

asked the Secretary of State for the Commonwealth and the Colonies what was the cause of the recent police raid on Mr. Sydney Kitching's farm in Swaziland; and why thirty-five policemen took part.

After the issue of a warrant on the advice of the Attorney-General, police visited Mr. Kitching's house on his farm in search of stolen property. Only two policemen took part.

Maldive Islands

Negotiations

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies if he will make a statement on the negotiations with the Government of the Maldive Islands.

Gambia

London Conference

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies when he proposes to hold an independence conference for the Gambia.

High Court Decision (Government Employees)

32.

asked the Attorney-General if he will make a statement on the implications for Government employees of the recent decisions in the High Court in the cases of Dudfield v. Ministry of Works and Faithful v. Admiralty.

No. I do not think it would be appropriate for me in answer to a Question to attempt an expression of opinion on matters of law.

National Finance

Government Contracts (Excess Profits)

33.

asked Chancellor of the, Exchequer if he will introduce legislation to enable Her Majesty's Government to recoup excessive profits made by firms dealing with Government Departments.

Blackcurrant Juice (Tax)

34.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state the amount of revenue he has received from Purchase Tax on blackcurrant juice in each of the last two financial years; and how much he anticipates he will receive during the current year.

Manufacturers are not required to make separate returns of the tax paid on particular products, and consequently no information is available about the yield of tax from blackcurrant juice drinks.

Barristers' Fees (Taxation)

35.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take action to end the present practice whereby lawyers are able to claim the last year of their earnings tax-free or to extend this privilege to all tax-payers.

The treatment of barristers' fees for tax purposes is in accordance with the existing law and my right hon. Friend's Budget proposals did not include any proposal to amend the law in this matter.

Government Employees (High Court Decision)

36.

asked Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will propose legislation to safeguard the working conditions of Government employees in view of the recent decisions of the High Court in the cases of Dudfield v. Ministry of Works and Faithful v. Admiralty.

No. These decisions do not appear to have affected the functioning of the Civil Service Whitley system nor the constitutional position of any of the parties to it.

Treasury Short-Term Economic Forecasts

44.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will now publish an account of the short-term economic forecasting methods used by the Treasury.

I am in sympathy with the hon. Member's desire that the public should be more fully informed about the short-term economic forecasting methods employed by the Government and am considering how this can most conveniently be achieved.

Post Office

Commemorative Stamps

45.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give a list of all commemorative stamps so far issued; and what profit has accrued from their sale.

It is not possible to estimate with any degree of reliability what profit we have made from philatelic sales of the 28 series of commemorative stamps issued since 1924, but it might be of the order of £3 million. The following is the list:

Special Postage Stamps
Description and date of issueDenominations
£s.d.
1.British Empire Exhibition—April, 19241
2.Postal Union Congress—May, 1929½
1
100
3.King George V Silver Jubilee—May, 1935½
1
4.King George VI Coronation—May, 1937
5.Penny Post Centenary—May, 1940½
1
2
3
6.Peace Issue—June, 1946
3
7.King George VI Silver Wedding—April, 1948
100
8.Channel Island Liberation—May, 19481
9.Olympic Games—July, 1948
3
6
10
10.UPU 75th Anniversary—October, 1949
3
6
10
Description and date of issueDenominations
£S.d.
11.Festival of Britain—May, 1951
4
12.Queen Elizabeth II Coronation—June, 1953
4
13
16
13.World Scout Jubilee Jamboree—August, 1957
4
13
14.46th Conference of Inter-Parliamentary Union: September, 19574
15.Sixth British Empire and Commonwealth Games—July, 19583
6
13
16.Tercentenary of Art Establishing "General Letter Office"—July, 19603
13
17.First Anniversary of the Conference of European Postal and Telecommunications Administrations—September, 19606
16
18.Post Office Savings Bank Centenary—August, 1961
3
16
19.Conference of European Postal and Telecommunications Administrations, Torquay—September, 19612
4
4
10
20.Seventh Commonwealth Parliamentary Conference—September, 19616
13
21.National Productivity Year—November, 1962
3
13
22.Freedom from Hunger—March, 1963
13
23.Paris Postal Conference—May, 19636
24.National Nature Week—May, 19633
25.Ninth International Lifeboat Conference—May, 1963
4
16
26.Red Cross Centenary Congress—August, 19633
13
16
27.Commonwealth Pacific Cable—December, 196316
28.Shakespeare Festival Stamps—April, 19643
6
13
16
26

Travelling Post Offices (Security)

asked the Postmaster-General to what extent radio links have now been installed in travelling post offices for use when high-value mails are being carried by rail.

I do not think it would be in the best interests of security for me to give information about travelling post office radio communications.

Wireless And Television

Colour Television

46.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will arrange for a demonstration of the three colour television systems, N.T.S.C., S.E.C.A.M. and P.A.L. in the Palace of Westminster, in order that hon. Members may appreciate the choice of standards for public colour television.

The hon. Member may not be aware that at my request the B.B.C. arranged for hon. Members a special series of demonstrations of the three colour television systems at the beginning of last December.

Telephone Service

Kiosks, Belfast (Wilful Damage)

asked the Postmaster-General how many public telephones and kiosks have been wilfully damaged in Belfast during each of the past five years; how many persons have been charged with these offences in each of the above years; and what are the age groups covered by the offenders.

The figures are:

Wilful DamagePersons Charged
1959152
1960372
196112719
196220716
19631589
It is estimated that, in addition, there are some 200 cases a year when the glass of the kiosks is broken: some of these glass breakages are accidental. I am sorry that information about the age groups of offenders is not available from Post Office records.

Worcester And Droitwich

asked the Postmaster-General what was the number of telephones installed in the area covered by the Worcester City Council, the Borough of Droitwich Council and the Droitwich Rural District Council between 1st January, 1952, and 31st December, 1963.

Precise figures are not now available, but my best estimate is about 7,000.

South Antrim

asked the Postmaster-General if he will reduce the charges for installing a telephone in the rural areas of the Parliamentary constituency of South Antrim; and if he will make a statement on his policy for the development of the telephone service in such areas.

I am sorry I cannot justify reduced charges for telephone service in the rural areas. Rural lines are usually longer and therefore more expensive than those in towns. I am anxious to develop the telephone system in all parts of the country, and this is, of course, one of the main objects of the development plans announced in the White Paper The Telephone Service in an Expanding Economy (Cmnd. 2211).

Kirkintilloch And Cumbernauld

asked the Postmaster-General how long those applicants in Kirkintilloch and Cumbernauld have been waiting for telephone installations; and what steps he is taking to establish adequate plant and equipment in the areas to ensure an installation within three months of application.

Leaving aside orders under inquiry or being met, applications currently on the waiting list have been outstanding for the following periods of time:

KirkintillochCumbernauld
Over one year92
Between 6 and 12 months69
Between 3 and 6 months1521
Under 3 months1920

I am providing new plant to enable service to be given in these cases and to cater for new demand. My general objective as stated in the White Paper The Inland Telephone Service in an Expanding Economy (Cmnd. 2211) is to meet virtually all applicants within a week or two of their being received, and this I hope to achieve by March, 1966.

East Dunbartonshire

asked the Postmaster-General what is the number of telephone subscribers who are on a shared line service in Clydebank, Bearsden, Milngavie, Kirkintilloch and Cumbernauld; and what steps he is taking to ensure that these subscribers receive a private line service.

The figures at 31st March 1964 were:

Clydebank832
Bearsden1,710
Milngavie388
Kirkintilloch808
Cumbernauld256
As stated in the White Paper on

The Inland Telephone Service in an Expanding Economy (Cmnd. 2211) shared service must continue in the short term if my aim to abolish the waiting list for telephones by March 1966 is to be achieved. My ultimate objective is to remove compulsory sharing and to give exclusive lines to all who want them, but I cannot say when this will be possible.

Morpeth

asked the Postmaster-General what was the number of applicants on the waiting list for telephone service in the areas of Ashington, Newbiggin by the Sea, Morpeth, and Lynemouth in the county of Northumberland at the latest convenient date.

The figures at the 31st March last were:

Ashington38
Newbiggin by the Sea6
Morpeth20
LynemouthNil
The numbers of applications under inquiry or in course of being met were 14, 2, 28 and 5, respectively.

Local Government

Tower Hill (Redevelopment)

48.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs when he expects the plans for the new layout of the north side of Tower Hill to be carried out.

The development plan at present provides for an open space between Trinity Square and the Minories. I understand, however, that this may be affected by a realignment of Tower Hill at its junction with the Minories as part of the improvement of the northern road approach to Tower Bridge. This re-alignment is still under consideration by the London County Council and the City Corporation.

Derelict Land

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what is the average lime taken in approving a grant for the improvement of derelict land from the time the original application of the local authority.

Applications under Section 5 of the Local Employment Act, 1960, normally pass through three stages of approval. First, provisional approval is given to an outline application, so that the local authority can be sure that they will not be wasting their time in preparing a detailed scheme. This is followed by approval in principle to a detailed scheme based on a technical report, plans and estimates. Final approval is given on submission of a tender for the work to be done. On average the time taken to complete all three stages has been about 13 months, including the time taken by the local authority to prepare a detailed scheme and obtain tenders. This is too long and my right hon. Friend is taking steps to speed up the procedure so far as the Department are concerned.

Derelict Sites (North-East)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many applications for the clearance of derelict sites have been received each year from local authorities in the North-East between 1960 and the last convenient date; how many of these applications were approved; how many were rejected; and what was the total grant made in each year.

The following table gives the information asked for in respect of applications made by local authorities in the North-East for grant under section 5 of the Local Employment Act 1960 for each financial year since 1st April, 1960:

YearNumber of applicationsRejectedApprovedGrant committed on tenders received
£
1960–61511
1961–62923
1962–6352446
1963–6451940231,896
Total104*2448231,942
* Thirty-two applications were still under consideration at the 31st March, 1964.

New Towns (Manchester Area)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs whether he will now announce the location of the new towns in respect of the Manchester area.

Housing

Ashington

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many houses have been improved by the Ashington Urban District Council, Northumberland, and by the National Coal Board on grants from the local authority during the past five years.

My right hon. Friend does not have figures covering precisely the last five years. Between 1st January, 1960, and 31st March, 1964, 110 council houses were improved. In the same period, 892 other houses in the urban district were improved with the aid of grants, but I do not know how many of these were improved by the National Coal Board.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs how many new houses have been built each year in the urban district council of Ashington in Northumberland during the period 1951–64.

The numbers of houses completed in the urban district were as follows:

——Local authorityHousing associationPrivate bulidersTotal
195142951
195267572
195356965
1954983101
1955861197
195666369
195761970
1958751388
19598441098
196095127114
196152658
196268573
19634747
1964, first quarter26127
92316911,030

Industry, Trade And Regional Development

Imports From Hong Kong

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development whether he will now change the Empire content requirements for goods imported duty-free from Hong Kong.

No. We would not wish, nor have we power under the Import Duties Act, to adopt a policy of discriminating against Hong Kong by applying more stringent Commonwealth content requirements than are prescribed on imports from other countries in the Commonwealth preference area.

Advance Factories (Ashington And Morpeth)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development what action is being taken by his Department to build an advance factory in the local government areas of Ashington and Morpeth in the county of Northumberland; what requests for such aid have been received; and what reply has been made.

None. Neither place is in a development district. I have received no requests.

Transport

Rural Communities

51.

asked the Minister of Transport what conclusions have so far been reached as a result of Her Majesty's Government's experimental studies regarding the action necessary to meet the transport needs of rural communities; and whether he will make a statement.

These studies will proceed as indicated in my right hon. Friend's reply of 11th March to my hon. Friend the Member for Hexham (Mr. Speir). We will inform the House when conclusions are reached.

Roads

Morpeth Bypass

asked the Minister of Transport when work will commence on the Morpeth bypass, in the county of Northumberland.

A draft Order under Section 9 of the Highways Act, 1959, to authorise alterations to roads which will be intersected by the bypass will be published within a few weeks. Following this it will be necessary to acquire the land needed and to complete the design work. It is not possible to predict precisely how long these processes will take, but I hope work will start within the next two years.

Scottish Law (Parliamentary Questions)

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister who is responsible to the House for answering Questions in regard to Scottish law.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland will deal with legal Questions arising from Scottish business.

Solicitor-General For Scotland

asked the Prime Minister whether he will give an assurance that he will appoint a Solicitor-General for Scotland within the next three months.

Royal Navy

General Chase Signal

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the last occasion on which the General Chase signal was flown by the Royal Navy; from which Royal Navy ship it was flown; under whose command the ship was; and where the actual flags of the signal are preserved.

I regret that the information asked for in the first part of the Question is not readily available and could only be extracted from individual ship's logs and other naval documents after lengthy research.Even if, in such a search, the latest example of the use of this signal were discovered in a ship's log, it would not necessarily indicate that it was the last example of such a signal being flown, since it would be possible for such a signal to have been made without the fact being noted in the ship's log.On such a signal being flown, no one concerned would have anticipated that it would prove to be the last occasion that such a signal would be employed, and would therefore preserve for historical purposes the actual flags used to make the signal.

Science

Nuclear Reactors

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science where the Atomic Energy Authority propose to site the prototype fast breeder reactor to be commenced in 1965.

The Atomic Energy Authority has not yet made any proposal to the Government for a prototype fast reactor.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what information he has received through the International Atomic Energy Agency regarding the number of fast breeder reactors at present operating in industrialised states; and if he will give comparative figures detailing the output of electricity from each at the latest convenient date.

Information on nuclear reactors, including fast breeder reactors, is contained in the Agency's Directory of Nuclear Reactors. Apart from the fast breeder research reactor at Dounreay, which to date has produced approximately 24 million kilowatt hours of electricity, there are three other such reactors in operation: the Experimental Breeder Reactor II and the Enrico-Fermi Reactor in the United States, and the SBR-5 reactor in the U.S.S.R. None of these has produced any electricity to date.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are the estimated designed output and ratings of the proposed prototype fast breeder reactor.

The Government have not yet received the Atomic Energy Authority's proposals relating to a prototype fast reactor.

Nuclear Installations, Dounreay

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will state the total amount spent to date on nuclear installations, including auxiliary works and research facilities, at Dounreay, the amount of power transmitted to the grid, the value of radio isotopes produced during the past year, the number of scientific and other staff at present working on the site and the total salary and wage bill for the past year.

The total capital sum spent on all the Atomic Energy Authority's nuclear installations, auxiliary works and research facilities at Dounreay, but excluding hostels and housing, is £28½5 million up to 31st March, 1964. The amount of power exported to the National grid to the same date is about 24 million kilowatt hours. No commercial quantities of radio-isotopes have been made. The total number of employees is about 2,500 and the total salary and wage bill for the last year was £2,675,000.

Dsir (Civil Development Contracts)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what civil development contracts have so far been awarded by the Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, together with the cost, date of commencement and duration of each.

The following civil development contracts have been placed:

  • (1) With Staveley Industries Ltd. for a numerically controlled machine tool at a total cost of £336,000 for a period of four years beginning in June, 1962.
  • (2) With Dobbie McInnis (Electronics) Ltd. for an automatic cartographic equipment at a total cost of £57,000 for a period of eighteen months from March, 1963.
  • (3) Five contracts for research and development into advanced computer techniques placed with Mullards Ltd., The Plessey Co. (U.K.) Ltd., Standard Telephones and Cables and Elliott Bros. (London) Ltd. at a total cost of just over £300,000. Commencing dates are from September, 1963 to January 1964, for periods of up to two years.
  • (4) With Mirrlees National for a large diesel engine of advanced design at a
  • UNWEIGHTED STUDENT-STAFF RATIOS IN ENGLISH UNIVERSITIES
    (EXCLUDING OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE*)
    (Number of full-time students: full-time staff)
    Faculty1953–541954–551955–561956–571957–581958–591959–601960–611961–621962–63
    Arts7·26·97·17·68·08·28·38·38·48·4
    Pure Science6·66·46·46·77·07·26·96·96·96·8
    Applied Science7·88·38·38·78·89·18·48·28·17·8
    * Oxford and Cambridge are excluded because total staff numbers (i.e. including staff with College as well as University appointments) are not available over the years.
    I do not envisage any marked change in these ratios during the period of rapid expansion which lies immediately ahead.

    New Schools, Bristol

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, how many new schools have been opened by the Bristol Education Authority since 1957; and on how many building has started since then.

    total cost of £295,000 for a period of 5½ years commencing the 1st April, 1964.

    (5) The contract with Craven Bros. for a gear grinding machine, which has now been cancelled, was for a total cost of £200,000 for 3 years commencing in December, 1961.

    Education

    Universities (Student-Staff Ratio)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what was the overall student-staff ratio in the faculty of arts in English universities for each of the past 10 years; and what improvement is envisaged in the next quinquennium;(2) what was the overall student-staff ratio in the faculty of pure science in English universities for each of the past 10 years; and what improvement is envisaged in the next quinquennium;(3) what was the overall student-staff ratio in the faculty of applied science in English universities for each of the past 10 years; and what improvement is envisaged in the next quinquennium.

    Overall student-staff ratios in the last ten years in these faculties in English universities (other than Oxford and Cambridge) have been as follows:

    Since 1st January, 1957, 13 new primary and 12 new secondary schools have been opened, and one new secondary school has been housed in the re-modelled premises of a former primary school. Two further new secondary schools are currently under construction.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the cost per place in new Bristol secondary schools in 1957 and 1963.

    No tenders for new secondary schools in Bristol were received during 1957 but in 1956 the average net cost per place was £251 compared with £306 in 1963.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the cost per place in new Bristol primary schools in 1957 and 1963.

    In 1957 the average net cost per place was £130; no tenders were received for primary school projects in Bristol in 1963 but one was received in January 1964 at £189 per place.

    German Democratic Republic

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs why Her Majesty's Government, as a signatory of the Paris Agreement of October, 1954, has made representations to the German Federal Republic against their entering into negotiations with the German Democratic Republic for a rapprochement between the two German States on measures to ensure peaceful development; and if he will make a statement.

    As the hon. Member will be aware, neither Her Majesty's Government nor the Government of the Federal German Republic recognise the so-called "German Democratic Republic". No question of governmental negotiations therefore arises; nor have any representations on this subject been made by Her Majesty's Government to the Federal German Government.

    Ministry Of Power

    Steel Production (Scotland)

    asked the Minister of Power if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table in the form of an index showing Scotland's output of crude steel from the years 1948 to 1963, taking 1948 at 100; and if he will also show for each of those years the percentage of United Kingdom crude steel production which was produced in Scotland.

    The information is as follows:

    YearIndex of crude steel output in Scotland (1948=100)Crude steel output in Scotland as percentage of total output in United Kingdom
    1948100·015·2
    1949105·715·3
    1950107·614·9
    195193·813·5
    195294·613·0
    1953103·113·2
    195499·012·1
    1955104·011·8
    1956111·812·2
    1957116·512·1
    195893·910·8
    195987·19·7
    1960119·811·1
    1961103·910·6
    196284·19·2
    196391·79·2

    Employment

    Ashington And Morpeth

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the unemployment figures in the Ashington and Morpeth centres at the latest available date, and the corresponding figures on the same date in each year from 1951 to 1963.

    The following is the information:

    Number registered as unemployed at Ashington and Morpeth Employment Exchanges
    AshingtonMorpeth
    16th April, 1951311120
    21st April, 1952389126
    13th April, 1953324146
    12th April, 1954253129
    18th April, 1955168102
    16th April, 195613175
    15th April, 195713065
    14th April, 1958190126
    13th April, 1959272131
    11th April, 1960418165
    10th April, 1961305169
    9th April, 1962355188
    8th April, 1963561308
    13th April, 1964595248

    Government Training Centres (South-East Northumberland)

    asked the Minister of Labour what steps are being taken to construct an industrial training centre in the area of South-East Northumberland.

    A Government training centre is not being set up in South-East Northumberland. It is however possible to travel daily from most parts of the built-up area of South-East Northumberland to the Government training centre at Felling. This centre is being more than doubled in size.

    Pensions And National Insurance

    Ex-Service Men

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what percentage disability is given to an ex-Serviceman of the 1914–18 war who has lost an arm, if the remaining stump is eight inches long, and if it is eight and one-eighth inches long, respectively.

    In the absence of any special features, in both cases the assessment is 70 per cent. for an above elbow amputation stump and 60 per cent. for a below elbow amputation stump.

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what percentage disability is given to the ex-Service man of the 1914–18 war who has lost a leg, if the remaining stump is five inches long, and if it is five and one-eighth inches long, respectively.

    In the absence of any special features, the assessments are 80 per cent. and 70 per cent., respectively, for an above knee amputation stump, and 50 per cent. in both cases for a below knee amputation stump.

    Deserted Wives

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance whether he will initiate an inquiry into the special difficulties of wives with children who are deserted by their husbands; and whether he will introduce legislation to empower him to treat such mothers as though they were widowed mothers.

    My right hon. Friend has no proposals to make. For National Assistance purposes the needs of a deserted wife with children are already assessed on the same scales as a widowed mother. For the reasons I gave in the debate on the Second Reading of the Family Allowances and National Insurance Bill on 22nd January, it would not be reasonable to make provision in the national insurance scheme for a man to insure against the possibility that he might desert his wife.

    Scotland

    Council Houses

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the average loan charge, the average interest rate and the average rent, all stated in weekly terms, for a council house in each year from 1951 to 1963 in Glasgow.

    The following is the information:

    ——Total loan charges per house per weekTotal interest charges per house per weekAverage weekly rent of council houses
    s.d.s.d.s.d.
    19511077493†
    195211782*
    195312119495†
    195414210496†
    195515511497†
    195617413198†
    195719014852
    1958191115852
    1959201016485
    1960216161085
    1961228171085
    1962242192122
    1963255202122
    * No Return of Rents published in 1952.
    † Not comparable with rents for 1957 and later years, because of reduction taking effect that year on abolition of owners' rates.

    Housing (Interest Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the amounts spent in interest charges on housing by each of the counties of cities, the county councils, and the large burghs in 1951–52 and 1962–63;(2) how much was spent in interest charges by each county council, county of city, and large burgh in 1951–52 and 1962–63.

    The figures are as follows:

    ——Interest Charges in respect of
    HousingAll Services
    1951–521962–63 (or latest available year)1951–521962–63 (or latest available year)
    Counties££££
    Aberdeen88,664308,005118,525540,482
    Angus12,56979,20223,161290,594
    Argyll19,174164,532*28,408289,990*
    Ayr207,9591,064,924*220,3061,384,256*
    Banff7,92439,045*13,96964,099*
    Berwick11,89145,75716,639121,024
    Bute2,65114,938*5,59632,489*
    Caithness14,60457,73218,393196,200
    Clackmannan37,588130,64944,102204,454
    Dumfries39,294171,17693,911373,927
    Dunbarton103,521406,846129,965782,706
    East Lothian43,351127,33153,203198,853
    Fife264,934800,158*350,6621,449,218*
    Inverness58,012175,40969,431362,627
    Kincardine14,96433,17916,35879,224
    Kinross3,6188,176*4,26310,296*
    Kirkcudbright13,43664,60428,130150,743
    Lanark421,3201,890,537*578,0993,005,577*
    Midlothian92,556485,023107,352712,000
    Moray13,33650,02015,21468,973
    Moray and NairnNot applicable4,64920,976*
    Nairn2,3897,898*3,11612,488*
    Orkney71233*1,45046,488*
    Peebles5,89215,3779,12731,138
    Perth44,052159,71849,806204,137
    Perth and KinrossNot applicable13,20897,813
    Renfrew80,287250,319137,757680,903
    Ross and Cromarty26,66575,923*36,769248,039*
    Roxburgh13,54350,37921,693155,908
    Selkirk1,5462,2423,89634,303
    Stirling182,350927,403209,2211,265,175
    Sutherland15,38748,69918,741118,110
    West Lothian50,077439,98765,250573,735
    Wigtown10,53769,16213,699139,420
    Zetland5,85139,4307,16896,951
    Cities
    Aberdeen205,2741,010,105364,6691,536,581
    Dundee235,6731,132,773355,4861,559,878
    Edinburgh394,8092,000,810633,1493,336,964
    Glasgow1,349,4496,220,2322,166,3808,950,485
    Large Burghs
    Airdrie91,324265,589*103,030294,190*
    Arbroath20,496116,21823,516159,052
    Ayr46,291301,06555,414336,429
    Clydebank152,790336,153163,188370,915
    Coatbridge94,333471,514106,208523,490
    Dumbarton36,488173,42646,876212,693
    Dumfries55,611262,40773,885325 170
    Dunfermline47,572305,73858,114350,069
    Falkirk74,573306,82082,937360,357
    Greenock91,697424,215115,712539,360
    Hamilton75,597307,51584,100345,544
    Inverness38,24599,93353,622154,962
    Kilmarnock70,324417,119*87,905489,290*
    Kirkcaldy72,868441,84090,002546,459
    Motherwell and Wishaw112,795616,107143,580699,604
    Paisley129,698724,451194,377866,943
    Perth86,286293,107109,087379,019
    Port Glasgow64,695152,73873,478191,447
    Rutherglen39,215165,12941,466174,530
    Stirling41,251178,59148,503199,576
    * 1961–62

    Agricultural Advisory Committees

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how often each agricultural advisory committee of those enumerated in his report met in the last 12 months; which of them have now reported; which of these reports have been published; and what has been the outcome of their deliberations.

    The Agricultural Advisory Council and the Agricultural Improvement Council each met once in 1963 as did the Grassland, Field Trials, Horticultural Crops and Animals Committees of the Improvement Council. The Council's Committee on Mastitis did not meet in 1963. The Sugar Beet Research and Education Committee (Scottish Sub-Committee) met twice and the Poultry, Licensing of Bulls and Livestock Records Bureau Advisory Committees each met once. The Potato Trials Advisory Committee met four times and the Winter Keep Consultative Panel met three times. Agricultural Marketing Act and the The Consumers' Committee under the Horticultural, Hill Farming, Artificial Insemination and Agricultural Statistics Advisory Committees did not meet last year, but members of this last Committee were consulted individually.Apart from the Scottish Standing Committee for the Calculation of the Residual Values of Fertilisers and Feedingstuffs which met once last year and whose 15th Annual Report was published on 24th September, 1963, and the Potato Trials Advisory Committee whose report on the year's work will be published shortly, none of these bodies is required to make formal reports. They are standing advisory committees and in carrying out my statutory responsibilities I take full account of the views they express on the matters which are referred to them or come within their terms of reference. An exception is the Committee of Investigation for Scotland under the Agricultural Marketing Act, 1958, which is required to meet only under particular circumstances specified in the Statute.