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Volume 694: debated on Wednesday 29 April 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 29th April, 1964

Scotland

Children And Young Persons (Report)

4.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the Report on the law relating to children and young persons in Scotland will be made public.

The Report of Lord Kilbrandon's Committee was published on Wednesday, 22nd April.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is aware of the recommendation of the Kilbrandon Report on Children and Young Persons in Scotland to abolish existing provisions for care or protection of young people aged 16 and over; whether he intends to adopt this proposal; and if he will make a statement on this matter.

I would refer the hon. Member to the statement I made in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, Kelvingrove (Mr. Lilley) on Wednesday, 22nd April.

Senior Boys' Approved Schools And National Apprenticeship Scheme

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what co-operation there is between senior boys' approved schools and the National Apprenticeship Scheme.

There is a variety of arrangements for recognition, varying with the school, the trade concerned and the abilities of pupils. The scope for further co-operation will be studied against developments under the Industrial Training Act.

Sheep Dips

7.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in view of the Report on Persistent Organochlorine Pesticides, and in particular paragraph 58 thereof, he will give an assurance that the existing sheep dips will be available until an equally efficient dip is discovered which does not involve extra expense to sheen farmers and gives equal protection against suffering by sheep.

No. The Government have accepted that certain uses of aldrin and dieldrin should be brought to an end with the least possible delay. Indefinite postponement of the withdrawal of sheep dips containing these poisons would not accord with this aim.

Committee On Conveyancing

11.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has now considered the views of the legal and other bodies concerned on the recommendations of the Reid Report on Title to Lands and Conveyancing; and if he will make a statement.

I have not yet received observations from all the bodies that I consulted. Meanwhile, as recommended in the Report, I am setting up a small expert Committee on conveyancing with the following terms of reference:

"To examine and report on existing conveyancing legislation and practice in relation to heritable and moveable property and to make recommendations with a view to amending or new legislation".
Professor J. M. Halliday, of Glasgow University, has very kindly agreed to act as Chairman of this Committee. I shall in due course announce the names of the other members.

Scottish Certificate Of Education

12.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state for each of the past three years the number of pupils who gained three higher and two or more O level passes in the Scottish Certificate of Education examination.

This particular figure is not available for 1961 but the number was 1,761 in 1962 and 557 in 1963. Those figures exclude, of course, pupils who got more than three highers in the particular year and they relate to passes at one examination, not to the total number of passes obtained by the time the pupil leaves.

Mental Health

13.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to modernise the Mental Health (Scotland) Act in accordance with current scientific opinion, details of which have been sent to him.

I have not yet received the details to which the hon. and learned Member refers. I am not convinced that this comparatively recent Act requires amendment, but I am prepared to consider any reasoned proposals for amending it.

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to secure greater collaboration between the various types of scientists who work in the field of mental health.

I am not aware of any general lack of collaboration between persons working in this field, but I shall be glad to consider any particular difficulty that the hon. and learned Member has in mind.

Housing, Dundee

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the address of the single house built to rent by private investment in Dundee since the passing of the Rent Act, 1957.

The figures which I sent to the hon. Member in December were derived from returns by local authorities which did not show addresses.

Edinburgh-Aberdeen Roads (Expenditure)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give an estimate of the relative population to be served by Edinburgh-Aberdeen roadways via the new road bridges and via Perth and Strathmore, respectively; and what are Her Majesty's Government's present plans for expenditure on road development on each route.

Both routes serve the same populations in the North-East. The route via Perth also serves some 330,000 people in Perth and the Highlands, whereas the route via the Tay Bridge serves some 220,000 people in Dundee and Eastern Angus.On the former, expenditure of about £7½ million is planned by 1970; on the latter route, via Glenrothes, current expenditure including the Tay Bridge amounts to about £5·4 million.

Farmers (Dairying And Livestock Rearing)

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many farmers who benefited under the marginal agricultural production scheme but who do not benefit under the winter keep scheme he has advised to cut down their dairying enterprise and to increase livestock rearing.

Wheatley Report

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proposals he has for legislation to implement the recommendations of the Wheatley Committee on matters relating to the teaching profession.

I cannot yet add to the reply given to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Maryhill (Mr. Hannan) on 22nd April.

Forestry

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to assist the Forestry Commission to acquire its minimum necessary reserve of 250,000 acres of land in Scotland to enable it to carry out its national planting programme, its forest produce marketing programme, its development of wood-using industry, its supplies to the Fort William pulp mill, and its aim of providing rural employment and aiding social development and open air recreation.

I can see no reason for exceptional measures to enable the Commission to acquire sufficient land to carry out the planting programme which they have been asked to undertake or to carry out the policy announced by Ministers on 24th July, 1963.

Lewis And Harris (Deputation)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now agree to meet in Scotland in the near future a deputation consisting of the Provost and Town Clerk of Stornoway, the Chairman and Clerk of Lewis and of Harris District Councils and the hon. Member for the Western Isles to discuss the special problems of the Lewis and Harris area.

Yes. I shall consult with the hon. Member about fixing a convenient time to meet this deputation.

Teachers, Dunbartonshire

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total number of teachers employed by the Dunbartonshire education authority; how many of these are non-graduates; and how many are uncertificated.

The total number of teachers employed whole-time by Dunbartonshire education authority in the provision of primary and secondary education is 1,511. Of these 955 are non-graduates and 107 are uncertificated.

Primary Schools Classes (Clydebank, Milngavie And Kirkintilloch)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average number of children in each class in the primary schools in Clydebank, Milngavie and Kirkintilloch.

The average numbers of children in classes in primary schools and departments in the Burghs of Clydebank, Milngavie and Kirkintilloch are 38, 38 and 36 respectively. To abstract information about each stage would involve a considerable amount of work which I would not feel justified in asking the education authority to undertake.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what increase has taken place in the number of children entering primary schools in Kirkintilloch as a consequence of the overspill arrangements with Glasgow.

Since the first overspill agreement was approved on 15th October, 1958, the number of children in class P.I. in primary schools and depart- ments in Kirkintilloch has been as follows:

January, 1959279
January, 1960307
January, 1961293
January, 1962323
January, 1963354
I cannot say, however, how many of these children were living in Kirkintilloch as a result of the overspill arrangements.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many children entered primary schools in the Burghs of Clydebank, Milngavie and Kirkintilloch on 1st September in each year from 1959 to 1963.

I do not have this information but I have asked the authority for it, and I shall write to the hon. Member.

Houses (Rent Control)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses are still subject to rent control in Scotland; and what is the estimated annual rate at which they are being decontrolled.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answers I gave the hon. Member for Greenock (Dr. Dickson Mabon) on 8th April.

Houses, Coatbridge And Airdrie

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the average cost of interest charges per week for a house in Coatbridge and Airdrie, respectively, during the years 1951 and 1963, respectively.

The information is as follows:

AirdrieCoatbridge
1951196319511963
s.d.s.d.s.d.s.d.
Average cost of interest charges per house per week78152781811

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish details showing the average weekly rents and rates payments, respectively, by council tenants, in 1951 and at the most recent convenient date, in the towns of Coatbridge and Airdrie, respectively.

The information is as follows:

Average weekly payment by council tenants in respect of:
RentRates
1951196319511963
s.d.s.d.s.d.s.d.
Airdrie7391146164
Coatbridge819051151
The amounts of rates for 1951 represent occupiers' rates only: thus no valid comparisons can be made between these amounts and the amounts for 1963. Under the Valuation and Rating (Scotland) Act, 1956, separate owners' and occupiers' rates were abolished and a combined rate levied on occupiers from 16th May, 1957. At the same time rents were reduced by the amount of owners' rates for the previous year.

Hospital Plan (Revision)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he intends to publish the 1964 revision of the Hospital Plan for Scotland.

Shellfish

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware of the recent boom in the shellfish industry, the annual value of the Scottish catch of which is now over £1,300,000, which represents a 400 per cent. rise in 10 years; and what steps he is taking to assist the extension of this industry.

I am, of course, aware of this development and various steps have been taken to encourage it including the installation, originally at Government expense, of the first lobster storage tanks in Scotland. Numerous investigations have also been made by my Department's scientists into the distribution and strength of the stocks of lobsters and other shellfish in Scottish waters. To assist with this programme, it is proposed shortly to add a vessel to the research fleet for work in shallow waters.

Spoken English

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he has taken during the last five years to further spoken English as an examinable subject in the O grade educational examinations in Scotland.

While I continue to take every suitable opportunity of emphasising the importance of a good standard of spoken English, I am not satisfied that spoken English should become a subject for examination.

Teachers (Recruitment Scheme)

asked the Secretary of Sate for Scotland how many applicants fully qualified to enter a university have been rejected under the special recruitment scheme for teachers.

This information is not available, but if the hon. Lady has a particular case in mind I shall be glad to look into it.

Motor Rallies

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to introduce control of motor rallies in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

There has been no indication that motor sports events as yet create much of a problem in Scotland. I am however arranging to discuss with the Scottish Association of County Councils and Chief Constables whether, in the light of the steps my right hon. Friend, the Minister of Transport, is taking to control such events in England and Wales, similar measures in Scotland should be adopted now.

Roads

Channel Tunnel (Road Links)

55.

asked the Minister of Transport what road links in his present plans are designed to accommodate the traffic which will be generated by the construction of the Channel Tunnel.

The planned improvements to trunk road A.20 will provide for the flow of traffic towards London and give adequate links with A.2 and the main planned distributive roads towards the west and north. A.259, as suitably improved, will cater for the traffic flow along the south coast.

Otley (By-Pass)

56.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware of the traffic congestion in the centre of the town of Otley on all market days and at weekends; and what plans he has for by-passing the centre of this town, which is the gateway to Wharfedale.

Yes. A line for a trunk road by-pass to the south of the town is included in the West Riding County Development Plan. But I see no immediate prospect of including the scheme in the roads programme.

Motorways

57.

asked the Minister of Transport how many miles of four-lane and six-lane motorways, respectively, are in use in Yorkshire; and what additional mileage will be built by the year 1970.

15½ miles of four-lane motorway are open to traffic in Yorkshire. Subject to there being no exceptional unforeseen difficulties I expect a further 7½ miles of four-lane and 48 miles of six-lane motorway to be in use by 1970.

58.

asked the Minister of Transport how many miles of motorways were completed in 1963; and what is the estimated mileage for 1964.

93½ and 15½ miles respectively. Of the latter, 8 miles of M.1 between Lutterworth and Whetstone will not be opened until 1965 when the whole of the length between Lutterworth and Markfield will open.

Highways (Grant Structure)

asked the Minister of Transport what progress is being made on the revision of the highway grant structure.

We are considering what changes may be needed in the grant structure, in the context of the current general review of the financial relations between local and central government.

Trunk Road, Bridge (Accidents)

asked the Minister of Transport what were the road accident statistics in the village of Bridge, near Canterbury, for the years 1959–63 inclusive.

There were 23 accidents on the trunk road in the village involving personal injury. Four persons were injured fatally, 13 seriously and 17 slightly.

Railways

Proposed Closure, Cleethorpes-New Holland Line

59.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the delay which has already elapsed and local anxiety on the matter, he will now announce his decision on the recommendation of the Transport Users' Consultative Committee that the Cleethorpes-New Holland line should not be closed.

The Railways Board has been asked to consider whether any improvements can be made in the alternatives which would be available if closure took place. My right hon. Friend will consider the proposal further in the light of its reply, and I cannot at present say when he will be able to reach his decision.

Transport

Motor Rallies Advisory Committee (Report)

asked the Minister of Transport if he has yet received the report of the Motor Rallies Advisory Committee.

The Report is to be published tomorrow. The Committee under the chairmanship of my noble Friend the Parliamentary Secretary has done a most useful job and I am generally in agreement with its recommendations. One of these is that the Royal Automobile Club and the Auto-Cycle Union should be invited to act as my agents for the control of the majority of motor sporting events. I am glad to say that both have agreed in principle to undertake the task. Draft Regulations based on the Committee's proposals will be circulated to interested organisations for comment as soon as possible.

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Tests)

asked the Minister of Transport when he will bring in a scheme for testing commercial vehicles on the same lines as the present test for private cars.

The vehicle testing scheme now in operation applies to goods vehicles with an unladen weight of up to and including 1½ tons. More than half the goods vehicles in this country are in that category.The testing of the heavier types of goods vehicles gives rise to special problems, and it cannot be done just by applying the existing Regulations to them. We are making plans for an effective new scheme, which we intend to introduce as soon as possible, though I cannot yet say when this will be.Meanwhile a large number of roadside inspections of heavy goods vehicles are already carried out by the Ministry's technical officers who last year issued over 32,000 notices prohibiting the further use of vehicles until they had been adequately repaired. This work will continue and be intensified.

Sick And Elderly People, Scotland (Fares)

asked the Minister of Transport what plans Her Majesty's Government have for giving financial assistance to sick and elderly people in Scotland living on small incomes and on old-age pensions who have been disadvantaged by recent increases in the cost of living and transport.

I would refer the hon. and learned Member to my right hon. Friend's reply of 13th April to my hon. Friend the Member for Hornsey (Lady Gammans). This states Her Majesty's Government's general policy in this matter.

Shipbuilding

Credit Scheme

asked the Minister of Transport how many ships have been built with the aid of Government loans in the last year for which figures are available; and how many of these ships are crewed by resident British sailors at United Kingdom rates of pay.

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to ships ordered under the Shipbuilding Credit Scheme, and not to subsidised fishing vessels or ships financed by overseas aid loans.So far one ship ordered under the Scheme has been completed. All of her crew are resident in the United Kingdom and have been engaged at the standard United Kingdom rates of pay.

Ministry Of Aviation

Polaris Missiles (Warheads)

60.

asked the Minister of Aviation (1) whether he is satisfied that there will be no delay in the provision of British warheads for Polaris submarines; and if he will make a statement;(2) what provisional plans he has made for the use of American warheads for the Polaris submarine in the event of technical obstacles to the fitting of British warheads.

62.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he is satisfied that the technical difficulties of fitting a British warhead on the A3 Polaris missile have been overcome; and if he will make a statement.

I am satisfied that we have the knowledge and experience to develop and manufacture in this country a British warhead for our Polaris missiles. It will be fully compatible with the missile. The House will not expect me to go into details of warhead design, but we foresee no technical difficulties which would delay the introduction of the British Polaris missile system into service.I have no plan for the use of American warheads in Polaris.

Aircraft (Seat Belts)

asked the Minister of Aviation if he is satisfied with the present design of seat belt for passenger aircraft from the safety point of view; and if comparison tests of effectiveness have been carried out using cross harness.

All seat belts installed on passenger aircraft have to meet British civil airworthiness requirements and there is no reason to doubt the safety of their design. The Ministry is investigating the effectiveness of various types of cross-harness as compared with belts and is taking into account relevant experience of motor cars.

British Army

Kinnegar Ordnance Depôt, County Down

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proposals he has for the future development of Kinnegar Ordnance Depôt, County Down; what are the prospects for employment at the Depôt; and if he will make a statement.

We plan to retain the Command Ordnance Depôt at Kinnegar I hope that the present level of employment will be substantially maintained but this must of course be subject to the normal and continuous reviews of staffing and of workload.

Royal Malta Artillery

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the marriage allowance for officers serving in the Royal Malta Artillery was last reviewed; and by what percentage it is estimated that the cost of living has increased since that date.

Marriage allowance for officers serving in the Royal Malta Artillery was last reviewed as part of a general review of pay and allowances in 1960, since when the cost of living in Malta has increased by approximately 7·5 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the comparative rates of pension and terminal grants of an able seaman, Royal Navy, a Maltese able seaman, a gunner in the Royal Artillery and a gunner in the Royal Malta Artillery, in each case after 22 years' service.

The following is the information:

Retirement on or after 1st April, 1964, after 22 years' service
Pension Weekly rate.Terminal Grant
s.d.£s.d.
Royal Navy AB55042900
Maltese R.N. AB55042900
Gunner R.A.55042900
Gunner R.M.A.330171120

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated percentage increase in the cost of living in Malta and in the British Army of the Rhine between 1962–63 and 1963–64; and to what extent this rise has been reflected in the pay and allowances of officers and other ranks of the Royal Malta Artillery serving in the two countries.

The percentage increase in the cost of living between January, 1962, and December, 1963, was 2·7 in Malta and 3·7 in the Federal German Republic.During the years 1962 to 1964 inclusive the rates of pay and marriage allowance of the Royal Malta Artillery serving in Malta have remained unchanged. The pay rates of officers of the Royal Malta Artillery serving in the British Army of the Rhine are the same as for United Kingdom officers which were increased by 5 per cent. in 1962–63 and by between 7 to 11 per cent. on 1st April, 1964; their marriage allowance was increased in 1964 by between 16 and 18 per cent. The pay rates of other ranks of the Royal Malta Artillery serving in B.A.O.R. approximate to United Kingdom Scale "B" rates which were increased by 13 per cent. in 1962–63 and 7·4 per cent. in 1964; their marriage allowance was increased in 1964 by about 35 per cent.Local overseas allowance is not calculated solely on the basis of the cost of living figures of the country for which it is intended. The rates for Germany were reviewed last year and the great majority of personnel received an increase.

Married Quarters (Mr Mckay)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in view of the facts submitted to him in letters from the McKay family, of 36, Great Southern Road, Aberdeen, and of the service of Mr. McKay in the Territorial Army, he will reconsider his decision not to provide the family with living accommodation in Army quarters; and why he took this decision.

Married quarters in the United Kingdom are provided for the accommodation of serving officers and soldiers and their families at their duty station. When a soldier leaves the Army he is no longer entitled to live in an Army quarter. If married quarters are occupied by people not entitled to them, some serving officers and soldiers will remain unnecessarily separated from their families.Mr. McKay was discharged from the Army in February, 1964, and has already had a considerable period of grace in which to find alternative accommodation. The married quarter which he is occupying is required by a serving soldier and I confirm the decision that he must leave it.

Royal Air Force

Practice Cargo Drop, Bridgham Heath

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the recent parachute incident in Norfolk, when five tons of dummy ammunition landed on the main Norwich to Cambridge railway line.

During a practice cargo drop by parachute at Bridgham Heath near Thetford on the afternoon of 21st April, the load of one of the six aircraft taking part in the exercise fell on to the Norwich to Cambridge railway line. I greatly regret the temporary interruption of railway services and the inconvenience to passengers which this caused. A Board of Inquiry is being held and until its findings have been considered the use of the Bridgham Heath Dropping Zone has been discontinued.

Aldwark Toll Bridge, Yorkshire

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the annual sum paid by the Royal Air Force for the use of Aldwark Toll Bridge, Yorkshire, in each of the last five years.

In 1959, 1960 and 1961, nothing; in 1962 and 1963 approximately £25.

Royal Navy

Training Classes (Teaching Machines)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he will make arrangements for interested educational bodies to observe the experiments that are being conducted in the Royal Navy in the use of teaching machines;(2) what results he has obtained from the experiments in training naval apprentices by means of teaching machines; and whether he will extend these techniques to other defence departments.

Most of the naval experiments so far have concerned the syllabuses of training for electrical mechanics, with whom the largest trials have been conducted. There have also been some trials with new entry engineering mechanics and seamen using elementary mathematics programmes. There have not been any experiments directed specifically towards the training of naval artificer apprentices. The results of all these trials so far evaluated show a significant improvement in the quality of training with large classes using a combination of teaching machines and live instruction. Because of the protracted nature of the trials, it has not been convenient to organise visits of observers while the trials were in progress, but some representatives of interested educational organisations have been invited to visit the establishments concerned on completion of the experimental work.Results obtained have been published in the January, 1963, edition of the journal

Occupational Psychology and have also been passed to the Ministry of Education for publication in educational circles. I have arranged for copies of a recent detailed account of the programmed instruction so far undertaken in the Royal Navy, which was prepared for distribution to interested authorities, to be placed in the Library of the House of Commons.

The other Services are already conducting work in this field, and information is passed freely between those engaged.

Ferranti Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent Ferranti Ltd. are a major supplier of electronic equipment to the Royal Navy; what types of equipment they have supplied; and whether the contracts awarded were put to open tender.

Ferranti Ltd. have developed and supplied a number of special types of electronic equipment for the Royal Navy. It would be contrary to long-standing practice to publish details of the individual equipments supplied.Owing to the specialised nature of the requirements, it was not possible to invite competitive tenders for any of the major equipments involved.

Home Department

Professional Football (Alleged Bribery)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give details of the other police forces with whom the Sheffield City Police are in contact in investigations into alleged bribery in professional football; and what steps he has taken to ensure that arrangements such as these are adequate.

It would be contrary to the public interest to disclose details of a police investigation in progress in relation to alleged criminal offences. The investigation of the allegations and the arrangements for co-ordination in this instance are matters for the Sheffield City police force and the other forces concerned, but in addition I understand that the Director of Public Prosecutions has been consulted.

Professional Football (Fixed Odds Betting)

67.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the recent large increase in fixed odds betting on professional football matches, he will introduce legislation to provide that the minimum number of matches on which such bets may be laid shall be raised from three to six.

I assume that the object which the hon. Member has in mind is to reduce the temptations to corruption of professional footballers. The Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act, 1963, does not prescribe any minimum number of matches on which fixed odds bets may be laid; and I do not think that to insert such a provision would be an appropriate or indeed a particularly effective method of dealing with a problem of this kind.

Traffic Wardens And Meter Attendants, London Area

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the number of traffic wardens and meter attendants employed in the City of London and the Metropolitan Police district on 1st April, 1964; and what was the cost of their annual remuneration.

On 1st April, 1964, 451 traffic wardens were employed in the Metropolitan Police District at an estimated annual cost of £331,000. I understand that on that date 61 traffic wardens were employed in the City of London at an estimated annual cost of £46,000. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport informs me that local authorities in the London area were then employing 88 meter attendants at an estimated annual cost of about £70,000.

Central Ticket Office And Fixed Penalty Office, London

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the cost of acquisition or lease of the London Central Ticket Office dealing with parking offences; and what was the number of police, magistrates' court staff, civilian clerks and other staff employed there on 1st April, 1964.

The accommodation occupied by the Central Ticket Office and the Fixed Penalty Office was leased as open floor space at an exclusive annual rent of £47,500. The cost of adapting the premises for use was £57,400. On 1st April 1964, 195 members of the Metropolitan Police civilian staff and 17 members of the Metropolitan Magistrates' Courts staff were employed in the two offices respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the annual cost of remuneration, including pension charges, of all personnel in the London Central Ticket Office dealing with parking offences; and what is the proportion of this cost and that of acquisition or lease of the Central Ticket Office borne by the Metropolitan Police Fund.

The estimated annual cost of remuneration, including pension charges, of the staff employed at the Central Ticket Office and the Fixed Penalty Office is £196,500. The whole of this cost is borne by the Metropolitan Police Fund, as is the cost of providing the accommodation.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Meat Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on meat prices in view of the continuing fall during this last month in supplies of meat from traditional sources.

A comparison of rates of supply in March with those in February shows that, although somewhat less beef was available, there was more carcase meat in total. The shortfall in beef was more than offset by lamb, and pork supplies remained steady. The drop in total beef supplies was entirely the result of lower imports, which for the month of March totalled less than 16,000 tons, compared with 30,000 and 24,000 tons in March 1963 and 1962 respectively. Home killed totalled 77,000 tons compared with about 72,000 in the previous two years. Figures for April are not yet available, but home-produced beef supplies have been well maintained.Average wholesale prices of beef on Smithfield have now in general fallen slightly from the high levels to which they had risen by mid-April. Wholesale pork prices have fallen gradually since December.

Foodstuffs (Retail Prices)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT figures showing the comparative retail prices of basic foodstuffs in 1951 and 1964, respectively.

This information is available in detail only for October each year. The following table compares average prices for certain foods in seven large towns in Great Britain at October, 1963 with the corresponding prices at October, 1951:

October 1951October 1963
s.d.s.d.
White bread, per 1¾ lb.6*1
Flour, per 3 lb.101
Home-killed beef:
Sirloin boneless, per lb.2658
Brisket with bone, per lb.122
Home-killed mutton: leg, per lb.2433
Home-killed pork: leg, per lb.2442
Bacon: back, smoked, per lb.315
Thick streaky, smoked, per lb.213
Fish: fresh cod cuts, per lb.163
Margarine, per lb.121
Milk, per pint
Butter, per lb.26310
Cheese (Cheddar type), per lb.1230
Eggs:
(large), each55
(standard), each4
(medium), each43
Potatoes, per 7 lb.112
Cabbage, per lb.35
Onions, per lb.
Oranges, per lb.10¼11
Sugar, granulated, per 2 lb.101
Tea, per lb.386
* National loaf.

Education

Redland Teach Training College, Bristol

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total authorised expenditure to date on the Redland Teacher Training College in Bristol.

Building work costing £340,000 has been authorised and completed for the college since 1949–50 when it ceased to be an emergency training college.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total number of teachers trained or in training at Redland College, Bristol, since 1957.

Some 1,100 students have been admitted to courses of initial teacher training at the Redland College, Bristol, from the academic year 1957–58 onwards.

Adult Residential Colleges

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many adult residential colleges there are; how many students are in residence; and what is the average cost per student.

SHORT-TERM RESIDENTIAL COLLEGES AND CENTRES OF ADULT EDUCATION 1962–63
MenWomenTotal
Colleges and centres maintained or assisted by Local Education Authorities
Number of colleges19
Number of students by duration of course:—
Less than four days12,90415,64728,551
Four days but less than seven days6,0262,8398,865
Seven days but less than fourteen days1,7191,4013,120
Fourteen days or more232289521
All courses20,88120,17641,057
Number of centres9
Number of students by duration of course:—
Less than four days4,5314,7549,285
Four days but less than seven days9536251,578
Seven days but less than fourteen days5725341,106
Fourteen days or more5059109
All courses6,1065,97212,078
Direct grant colleges
Number of colleges5
Number of students by duration of course:—
Less than one year141024
One year19777274
Two years54761
All courses26594359

Adult Education (Full-Time Tutors)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many full-time officers and teachers are employed in the field of adult education excluding residential colleges.

The number of fulltime tutors employed by responsible bodies in 1963–64 with the aid of grant from my Department was 311. I have no information about officers other than teachers.

There are 28 short-term residential colleges or centres maintained or assisted by local education authorities and five long-term colleges which receive grant from my Department. Details of the courses held in 1962–63, and the numbers of students attending them, are given in the table below.No information is available about costs at the short-term colleges and centres; at the long-term colleges the average cost per student in 1962–63 was £445.

Housing

Council Houses (Charges And Rents)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will state the average loan charge, the average interest rate and the average rent, all stated in weekly terms, for a council house in 1951 and 1963, respectively, in the boroughs of Falmouth and Penryn, the urban district of Camborne-Redruth, and the rural districts of Kerrier, Truro and West Penwith within the constituency of Falmouth and Camborne, Cornwall.

My right hon. Friend has no information about the actual rates of interest paid by local authorities. He has details of total loan charges included in housing revenue accounts but not of rents or numbers of houses. The fullest statistical information available on housing revenue accounts is that contained in the Housing Statistics (England and Wales) published for each financial year by the Institute of Municipal Treasurers and Accountants. Of the authorities named in the Question, Camborne-Redruth Urban District Council was not included in the statistics for either 1962–63 or 1950–51 and only Falmouth Borough appeared in 1950–51. In the following table the figures of average loan charges and average rents have been calculated by dividing the total loan charges—which include charges for shops and garages as well as houses—and total rent income in each year by the stock of houses at the end of the year.

Average Loan Charges per house per weekAverage Rents
1950–51
s.d.s.d.
Falmouth B.C.104108
1962–63
Falmouth B.C.1910257
Penryn B.C.2382211
Kerrier R.D.C.237265
Truro R.D.C.2642610
West Penwith R.D.C.2510247
UNEMPLOYMENT
RegionApril, 1951April, 1964Percentage increase (+) or decrease (-)
London and South Eastern44,64963,224+41·6
Eastern and Southern23,06431,786+37·8
South Western13,45421,745+61·6
Midlands11,44735,999+214·5
Yorkshire and Lincolnshire16,68031,212+87·1
North Western35,88868,953+92·1
Northern27,41347,035+71·6
Scotland54,66786,297+57·9
Wales25,69025,297-1·5

Shipbuilding And Ship Repairing Industry

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of persons employed in the ship repairing industry

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what were the average loan charge, and the average rent, stated in weekly terms, for a council house in England in 1951 and 1963.

Figures for both years for all council houses in England could not be provided without great expense in time and labour. But information relating to houses owned by county borough councils in England is more readily available. The following figures for these houses have been calculated by dividing the aggregate debt charges—which include charges for shops and garages as well as houses—and rent income in each year by the stock of houses at the end of the year.

Average debt charges per house per weekAverage net rent per week
s.d.s.d.
1950–51105910
1962–6322112210½

Employment

Unemployment

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the figures of unemployment in each region at April, 1964, compared with 1951; and what percentage increase or decrease they represent of the 1951 figures.

Following is the information:in Great Britain during each of the past 10 years.

Separate statistics of employment are not available for ship repairing which under the standard industrial classification is combined with shipbuilding. Following is the information for the shipbuilding and ship repairing industry:

Mid YearEmployees in employment in Great Britain (Thousands)
1954204·5
1955206·7
1956215·2
1957210·8
1958200·7
1959190·9
1960180·9
1961175·5
1962169·3
1963152·4

Government Training Centre, Hindley

asked the Minister of Labour if he will now state the opening

UNEMPLOYMENT AT 13TH APRIL, 1964
Employment Exchange and associated Youth Employment OfficeMenBoysWomenGirlsTotalPercentage
Airdrie5591443581,0165·1
Bellshill256101615432
Blantyre29211305428
Cambuslang260121416419
Carluke365595105
Coatbridge77626645141,461
East Kilbride10431297243
Hamilton7182747841,227
Larkhall14621334285
Motherwell4212533410790
Uddingston195131351344
Wishaw477263386847
Lanark23119121123033·7
Lesmahagow135614111836·1
Shotts2151316974046·7
TOTAL4,8212023,449958,567

Government Training Centre, Hillington

asked the Minister of Labour what trades are taught in the training centre at Hillington, Glasgow; and how many apprentice-trained men are on the unemployed register for these trades in the Glasgow area.

The following table gives the trades taught at the Hillington Government Training Centre and the numbers unemployed—not necessarily

date for the new Government training centre at Hindley.

It is hoped to open the first classes at the Government Training Centre at Hindley, Wigan, by August, 1964, and to have all classes operating by early autumn, when the adaptations to the building should be completed.

Lanarkshire

asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish figures in the OFFICIAL REPORT showing the numbers registering for employment in each employment exchange in Lanarkshire, detailing males and females, and those over and under 18 years of age, at the most recent convenient date; and what percentage these figures represent of the insurable population.

Following is the information:all apprentice-trained men—in Glasgow City as at 13th April, 1964:

Agricultural machinery repair fitters1
Draughtsmen (mechanical engineering)8
Centre lathe turners29
Capstan setter operators11
Miller setter operators11
Jig and tool fitters9
Gentlemen's hairdressers23
Motor vehicle repairers21
Carpenters and Joiners38
Radio, TV and electronic servicers13
Watch and clock repairers5