Written Answers To Questions
Monday, 11th May, 1964
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Refined Sugar (Price)
1.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food on how many occasions during 1963 the price of refined sugar was varied by the refiners, differentiating so far as possible between changes attributable to movements in the free world market price and those occasioned by distribution payments made in conformity with the Sugar Act, 1956.
I am informed that the price of refined sugar has varied on 171 occasions, of which 13 arose from changes in the rates of surcharge or distribution payments.
Beef (Export To Europe)
5.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the total amount of British beef exported to Europe in the years 1960 to 1963; and how much subsidy was paid for the rearing of the cattle.
Exports to the Continent of Europe of live cattle, other than cattle for breeding, over the four years 1960 to 1963 totalled 85,800 head. Figures distinguishing exports of beef and of other kinds of meat are not available for the whole of this period. The amount of subsidy paid on these exports cannot be calculated since not all of the animals or carcases would qualify for guarantee payments and the rates of payment vary from week to week. The greater part of the exports was however of animals that would not have been eligible for subsidy.
Food Prices
15.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware that from 1952 until 1962 the price of food rose by 32·5 per cent.; what were the reasons for this increase; and what action he proposes to take to reduce the price of food.
By far the major part of the increase came in 1952–56, as a direct result of the Government's decision to abolish food subsidies. Since then, the rise has been of the order of 1½ per cent. per year. This compares with an increase of about 2½ per cent. in the cost of living generally, and has been largely due to increases in wages and distribution costs, fuel and transport.Our food and agricultural arrangements ensure that our food generally in this country can be got more cheaply than under any other effective system.
Contracts Of Employment Act, 1963
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make available through the National Agricultural Advisory Service a leaflet and draft contract form to comply with the Contracts of Employment Act, 1963.
Copies of the Ministry of Labour leaflet Notes for the guidance of Employers and Employees, containing examples of general written statements under the Contracts of Employment Act, 1963, are available free from employment exchanges and from my Ministry's divisional offices.
Milk
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce legislation to ensure that all milk sold through vending machines has been pasteurised.
No. I could not justify imposing on these sales a restriction that does not apply generally to retail sales of milk.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will reconsider the penalty of 2s. 4d. a gallon on milk containing traces of antibiotic.
The Milk Marketing Board has not yet introduced price reductions, though it intends to do so as soon as it is satisfied that producers can be offered firm advice as to the periods for which milk from cows treated with different antibiotics should be withheld from sale.
Agricultural Support
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the final out-turn of agricultural support for 1963–64.
The latest out-turn figure—subject to final adjustment and audit—of the cost of agricultural support in the financial year 1963–64 (Class V, Votes 3, 4, 5 and 6), is £294·1 million. Details are:
| I. FARMING GRANTS AND SUBSIDIES | ||
| £ million | ||
| 1. | General Fertilisers Subsidy | 33·6 |
| 2. | Lime Subsidy | 8·1 |
| 3. | Grants for Ploughing up Grassland | 9·9 |
| 4. | Field Drainage and Water Supply Grants | 3·3 |
| 5. | Grants for Improvement of Livestock Rearing Land | 1·5 |
| 6. | Marginal Production Assistance Grants | 0·7 |
| 7. | Bonus Payments under the Tuberculosis (Attested Herds) Scheme | 3·1 |
| 8. | Calf Subsidy | 19·4 |
| 9. | Hill Cattle and Hill Sheep | 8·0 |
| 10. | Silo Subsidies | 0·3 |
| 11. | Grants for Farm Improvements | 10·2 |
| 12. | Grants to Rabbit Clearance Societies | 0·4 |
| 13. | Grants to Small Farmers | 5·6 |
| 14. | Other grants | 0·1 |
| Total I | 104·2 | |
| II IMPLEMENTATION OF AGRICULTURAL PRICE GUARANTEES | ||
| (1) Cereals:— | ||
| £ million | ||
| Wheat and Rye | 30·3 | |
| Barley | 36·8 | |
| Oats and mixed corn | 10·0 | |
| 77·1 | ||
| (2) Fatstock | ||
| Cattle | 40·8 | |
| Sheep | 13·3 | |
| Pigs | 26·5 | |
| 80·6 | ||
| (3) Eggs | 20·2 | |
| (4) Milk (excluding school and welfare milk) | —* | |
| (5) Wool | 0·6 | |
| (6) Potatoes | 0·5 | |
| Total II. | 179·0 | |
| III. OTHER SERVICES | |
| Payment to the Exchequer of Northern Ireland | 1·5 |
| Totals I, II and III | 284·7 |
| IV. ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES | |
| Applicable to I and II only | 9·4 |
| Total cost of agricultural support | 294·1 |
* Following the 1962 Annual Review the retail price of milk was arranged so that neither a deficiency nor a surplus will arise, taking one year with another, from the implementation of the price guarantee.
Employment
Professions (Inquiry)
22.
asked the Minister of Labour if he will seek to hold an inquiry, similar to that to be made into trades unions, into the privileges, practices and conduct of the professions.
I have no plans for such an inquiry.
Manpower Research Unit
32.
asked the Minister of Labour how many studies of regional manpower requirements his Manpower Research Unit has initiated in the last three months.
The studies at present being undertaken by the Manpower Research Unit are concerned with manpower requirements at the national level. My Department is also participating fully in the comprehensive studies of individual regions now in hand and is sponsoring several research projects relating to regional and local manpower requirements.
Defence Contracts
36.
asked the Minister of Labour how many employees are currently employed on defence contracts; and what proportion of this total is employed in Scotland and London and the South-East Region, respectively.
In November, 1963, the latest date for which figures are available, 357,500 employees in manufacturing industry were employed on defence contracts. Of this total 8·3 and 18·0 per cent. were in Scotland and the London and South Eastern Region respectively.
Tursdale Training Centre, County Durham
asked the Minister of Labour how many people are being trained and retrained at the Tursdale Training Centre, County Durham, apart from those connected with the mining industry, specifying whether they are juveniles or adults.
87 adults and 47 first-year apprentices are being trained at the Tursdale Government Training Centre.
Manpower Trends
asked the Minister of Labour, in view of the publication of development plans for several regions and of the importance of a close study of manpower trends in relation to these plans, if he will appoint statisticians in his Department exclusively for such work.
We have not so far found it necessary to employ individual statisticians exclusively on this work but the position will be kept under review.
Skilled Occupations
asked the Minister of Labour (1) if he will set out in tabular form the skilled occupations in which there was a shortage of labour during 1963 and at present, respectively; what
| PRINCIPAL SKILLED OCCUPATIONS IN WHICH THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES NOTIFIED TO EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES, AND REMAINING UNFILLED ON THE DAY OF THE COUNT, EXCEEDED THE NUMBER OF MEN REGISTERED AS WHOLLY UNEMPLOYED | |||
| MEN (aged 18 and over) | |||
| March, 1963 | June, 1963 | September, 1963 | December, 1963 |
| Instrument maker, rapairer. | Machine tool setter and setter operator, press tool setter (engineering allied trades). | Sheet iron worker, sheet metal worker, tinsmith. | Pattern makers. |
| Aircraft body builder, airframe builder. | Carpenter, joiner. | Machine tool setter and setter operator, press tool setter (engineering and allied trades). | Forgeman. |
| Bricklayer. | Instrument maker, repairer. | Sheet iron worker, sheet metal worker, tinsmith. | |
| Mason, stone carver. | Carpenter, joiner. | Fitter, erector, etc. (electrical engineering). | |
| Plasterer. | Bricklayer. | Turner (engineering—ferrous metals). | |
| Aircraft body builder, airframe builder. | Mason, stone carver. | Machine tool setter and setter operator, press tool setter (engineering and allied trades). | |
| Plasterer. | Instruments maker, repairer. | ||
| Painter, decorator, signwriter. | Carpenter, joiner. | ||
| Plumber, gas fitter, etc. | Bricklayer. | ||
| Aircraft body builder, airframe builder. | Mason, stone carver. | ||
| Plasterer. | |||
| Cabinet maker, cabinet case maker, etc. | Plumber, gas fitter, etc. | ||
| Glazier. | |||
| Light vehicle chassis and body builder. | |||
| Aircraft body builder, airframe builder. | |||
| Sawyer, woodcutting machinist. | |||
| Cabinet maker, cabinet case maker, etc. | |||
is the estimated shortage; and what are the main areas in which the shortages exist;
(2) if he will set out in tabular form the skilled crafts in which there was a shortage of labour during 1963 and at present; what is the estimated shortage in each craft; and in which towns the shortage exists.
The following table lists the principal skilled occupations in which the number of unfilled vacancies notified to Employment Exchanges in Great Britain exceeded the number registered as wholly unemployed in each quarter of 1963. The table also gives the numbers of vacancies and wholly unemployed in Great Britain and for each region in occupations where unfilled vacancies exceeded wholly unemployed in March, 1964, which is the latest date for which figures are available. I regret that to give a list of individual towns would involve an excessive amount of staff time.
| MARCH, 1964 | ||||||||||
| MEN (aged 18 and over) | ||||||||||
| — | Great Britain | Regions | ||||||||
| London and south Eastern | Eastern and Southern | South Western | Midlands | |||||||
| W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | |
| Draughtsman | 770 | 1,066 | 242 | 303 | 112 | 281 | — | — | 69 | 246 |
| Pattern maker | 58 | 108 | 6 | 15 | 4 | 30 | 5 | 6 | 3 | 30 |
| Foundry moulder | 223 | 346 | 11 | 50 | 6 | 43 | 8 | 23 | 25 | 111 |
| Forgeman | 55 | 111 | — | — | — | 1 | 2 | 6 | 13 | 71 |
| Metal annealer, hardener, temperer | 20 | 29 | 5 | 13 | — | 7 | — | — | — | — |
| Electro plater, oxydiser, etc. | 81 | 128 | 20 | 50 | 1 | 22 | — | — | 27 | 38 |
| Sheet iron worker, sheet metal worker, tinsmith | 626 | 1,088 | 76 | 349 | 37 | 280 | 16 | 78 | 53 | 172 |
| Toolmaker, precision fitter | 1,912 | 2,992 | 276 | 748 | 169 | 585 | 122 | 444 | 189 | 478 |
| Erector, millwright, maintenance fitter | 1,132 | 1,156 | 132 | 250 | 67 | 201 | 40 | 42 | 86 | 293 |
| Fitter, erector, etc. (electrical engineering) | 601 | 889 | 91 | 225 | 41 | 128 | 33 | 103 | 61 | 179 |
| Fitter (not precision), motor mechanic | 2,076 | 2,927 | 322 | 960 | 132 | 641 | 131 | 222 | 160 | 453 |
| Turner (engineering—ferrous metals) | 413 | 1,136 | 74 | 242 | 29 | 203 | 14 | 104 | 55 | 246 |
| Machine tool setter and setter operator, press tool setter (engineering and allied trades) | 890 | 4,416 | 105 | 865 | 62 | 761 | 42 | 314 | 156 | 1,063 |
| Instrument maker, repairer | 145 | 388 | 36 | 136 | 25 | 130 | 7 | 34 | 7 | 22 |
| Carpenter, joiner | 1,556 | 4,349 | 353 | 1,004 | 126 | 924 | 78 | 374 | 111 | 659 |
| Bricklayer | 814 | 2,471 | 114 | 549 | 56 | 623 | 21 | 212 | 93 | 333 |
| Mason, stone carver | 142 | 187 | — | — | 2 | 6 | 13 | 96 | 4 | 22 |
| Plasterer | 237 | 784 | 45 | 155 | 31 | 134 | 13 | 70 | 28 | 69 |
| Glazier | 52 | 95 | 6 | 47 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 8 | — | — |
| Light vehicle chassis and body builder | 173 | 342 | 21 | 104 | 12 | 86 | 4 | 24 | 17 | 37 |
| Aircraft body builder, airframe builder | 93 | 675 | 8 | 172 | 29 | 310 | 5 | 30 | 15 | 31 |
| Sawyer, woodcutting machinist | 292 | 470 | 67 | 164 | 29 | 121 | 15 | 21 | 27 | 64 |
| Cabinet maker, cabinet case maker, etc | 157 | 434 | 60 | 197 | 17 | 96 | 13 | 19 | 10 | 25 |
| W.U. = Wholly unemployed. | U.V. = Unfilled vacancies. | |||||||||
| MARCH, 1964 | ||||||||||
| MEN (aged 18 and over) | ||||||||||
| — | Regions | |||||||||
| Yorks. and Lincs. | North Western | Northern | Scotland | Wales | ||||||
| W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | W.U. | U.V. | |
| Draughtsman | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Pattern maker | 2 | 5 | 9 | 11 | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Foundry moulder | 28 | 50 | 19 | 30 | — | — | — | — | 2 | 7 |
| Forgeman | 6 | 14 | 11 | 15 | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Metal annealer, hardener, temperer | — | 2 | — | — | — | — | 1 | 3 | — | — |
| Electro plater, oxydiser, etc. | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 3 |
| Sheet iron worker, sheet metal worker, tinsmith | 36 | 38 | — | — | 40 | 44 | — | — | 7 | 47 |
| Toolmaker, precision fitter | 83 | 203 | — | — | — | — | — | — | 71 | 123 |
| Erector, millwright, maintenance fitter | 73 | 157 | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Fitter erector, etc. (electrical engineering) | 34 | 159 | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Fitter (not precision), motor mechanic | 113 | 146 | — | — | — | — | — | — | 90 | 94 |
| Turner (enginerring—ferrous metals) | 33 | 81 | 73 | 113 | 41 | 46 | 79 | 89 | — | — |
| Machine tool setter and setter operator, press tool setter (engineering and allied trades) | 71 | 439 | 159 | 530 | 114 | 201 | 145 | 179 | 36 | 64 |
| Instruments maker, repairer | 5 | 6 | — | — | 9 | 28 | — | — | — | — |
| Carpenter, joiner | 84 | 371 | 269 | 283 | — | — | 267 | 306 | 30 | 333 |
| Bricklayer | 96 | 184 | 116 | 149 | — | — | 117 | 124 | 26 | 234 |
| Mason, stone carver | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Plaster | 10 | 52 | 34 | 100 | — | — | 22 | 101 | 17 | 80 |
| Glazier | 3 | 25 | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Light vehicle chassis and body builder | — | — | 25 | 42 | 5 | 8 | — | — | 6 | 15 |
| Aircraft body builder, airframe builder | 6 | 14 | 15 | 110 | — | — | — | — | 1 | 8 |
| Sawyer, woodcutting machinist | 10 | 37 | 34 | 46 | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Cabinet maker, cabinet case maker, etc. | 6 | 35 | 28 | 34 | — | — | 13 | 16 | 3 | 10 |
| W.U.= Wholly unemployed. | U.V.= Unfilled vacancies. | |||||||||
Crook Drift Colliery
asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware that a number of men finished work last weekend at the Crook Drift Colliery and that recent tests are causing further concern in the Crook and Willington area; and what steps he is taking to find jobs for the men displaced.
I am aware that as a result of a partial colliery closure on 2nd May, 69 miners were affected and the future of a further 13 is to be considered later. Alternative employment was offered by the National Coal Board to 64 of the men affected and 45 have accepted. Twenty miners have registered with our local officers and we are doing all we can to help them find other work.
Insured Employees
asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the percentage increase in numbers of insured employees, made and female shown separately, for each of his Department's administrative regions, respectively, since 1951.
Following is the information. It is not possible to calculate separate employee figures for 1951 for the present areas covered by the Midlands and Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Regions.
| Region | Estimated numbers of employees Per cent. change 1951–63 | ||
| Males | Females | Total: Males and Females | |
| London and South Eastern | +12·8 | +15·9 | +14·0 |
| Eastern and Southern | +20·4 | +39·2 | +26·4 |
| South Western | +12·9 | +24·7 | +16·7 |
| Midlands | + 8·4 | +13·8 | +10·2 |
| Yorkshire and Lincolnshire | |||
| North Western | +2·0 | +1·5 | +1·8 |
| Northern | +0·5 | +18·1 | +5·5 |
| Scotland | -0·1 | +8·0 | +2·6 |
| Wales | +0·3 | +20·7 | +5·7 |
| Great Britain | +8·2 | +15·2 | +10·6 |
Gateshead And Northern Region
asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the unemployment figures in Gateshead and the Northern Region at the latest available date, and the corresponding figures on the same date in each year from 1951 to 1963.
The following table gives the information:
| UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES FOR APRIL | ||||
| Year | Gateshed Employment Exchange and Gateshead Youth Employment Office | Northern Region | ||
| 1951 | … | … | 1,626 | 27,413 |
| 1952 | … | … | 1,992 | 35,102 |
| 1953 | … | … | 1,726 | 31,061 |
| 1954 | … | … | 1,755 | 31,586 |
| 1955 | … | … | 1,073 | 25,161 |
| 1956 | … | … | 964 | 19,872 |
| 1957 | … | … | 1,478 | 25,065 |
| 1958 | … | … | 1,332 | 29,022 |
| 1959 | … | … | 1,725 | 45,032 |
| 1960 | … | … | 1,786 | 39,596 |
| 1961 | … | … | 1,232 | 31,976 |
| 1962 | … | … | 1,565 | 44,601 |
| 1963 | … | … | 2,573 | 67,423 |
| 1964 | … | … | 1,697 | 47,036 |
Unemployed Persons And Unfilled Vacancies
asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the ratio of wholly unemployed persons to notified unfilled vacancies for each of his administrative regions as at January, 1964, and at the latest date available.
Following is the information:
| Region | Ratio of wholly unemployed to unfilled vacancies with wholly unemployed at 100 | |
| 13th January, 1964 | 13th April, 1964 | |
| London and South Eastern | 96 | 145 |
| Eastern and Southern | 100 | 149 |
| South Western | 51 | 93 |
| Midlands | 87 | 162 |
| Yorkshire and Lincolnshire | 55 | 91 |
| North Western | 31 | 46 |
| Northern | 10 | 18 |
| Scotland | 11 | 14 |
| Wales | 29 | 44 |
| Great Britain | 48 | 76 |
Special Operations Executive (History)
42.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will now announce the name of the professional historian commissioned by Her Majesty's Government to write the account of the Special Operations Executive in France; and what is the probable date of publication of the book.
The author of the draft history of Special Operations Executive in France is Mr. M. R. D. Foot, formerly a lecturer in history at Oxford.Now that Her Majesty's Government have decided in principle that it would be desirable for this work to be published, those who bore a significant share of responsibility for the operations in question must be given an opportunity to read the draft history and to offer comments to the author in order to ensure that the work is as accurate and objective as possible. This will inevitably take some time, and it is not possible therefore to indicate at present a probable date of publication.
Disarmament
43.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what number of civilian and military personnel is now employed under his direction in work concerned with disarmament; and how many of them are so employed on a full-time basis.
One department in the Foreign Office is employed on work concerned with disarmament. It is not, however, the practice to give precise numbers for staff in the Foreign Office. In addition there is consultation with the Ministry of Defence, Treasury, Commonwealth Relations Office and other Government Departments as necessary. The delegation at Geneva consists of eight Foreign Service officials, and a senior representative from the Ministry of Defence. Members of the department and delegation all work on disarmament full time.
International Peace- Keeping Force
44.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what peace-keeping arrangements the British delegate, Sir Paul Mason, had in mind when making his proposals to the Eighteen Nations Disarmament Committee in Geneva on 3rd March; whether it is the policy of Her Majesty's Government that these peace-keeping arrangements must be agreed upon before any proposal for a minimum nuclear deterrent is accepted; and what proposals for such peace-keeping arrangements Her Majesty's Government have now put forward.
There has been no change in Her Majesty's Government's policy regarding the establishment of an international peace-keeping force in connection with disarmament. We consider that a reliable and fully effective international force would be essential for the security of all in a disarmed world, and that the existing sources of national security, in particular national nuclear deterrents, could not be discarded until such a force had come into being. It is this point that the United Kingdom representative had in mind in his speech to the Geneva Conference on 3rd March.
German Concentration Camps (Detainees)
49.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what progress has now been made towards securing the payment of compensation by the West German State to the British citizens who were detained in German concentration camps during the 1939–45 war and to the dependants of those who died consequent upon their detention in such camps.
Negotiations on this question are at present in progress in Bonn. An announcement will be made when they are concluded. It would not help matters to make any further statement now.
Southern Rhodesia (United Nations Committee On Colonialism)
50.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what instructions he gave to the United Kingdom representative on the United Nations Committee on Colonialism with regard to Southern Rhodesia.
We do not recognise that this Committee is competent to deal with the affairs of Southern Rhodesia. The British representative has standing instructions to explain our attitude and the constitutional relationship between Britain and Southern Rhodesia whenever debates in the Committee make this desirable.
Cyprus (United Nations Force)
51 and 52.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (1) if he will inform the Secretary-General of the United Nations that all British troops serving under United Nations command in Cyprus will be withdrawn unless troops of that force carry arms which are to be used, should this become necessary, in the discharge of its function in the interest of preserving international peace and security, of seeking to prevent a recurrence of fighting, and contributing to the maintenance and restoration of law and order and a return to normal conditions;
(2) if he will inform the Secretary-General of the United Nations that he will withdraw British troops serving in Cyprus under United Nations command unless they are used actively and only for the purposes set forth in paragraph 5 of the Security Council Resolution of 4th March, 1964.
53.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will request the Secretary-General of the United Nations to revise the instructions given to United Nations forces in Cyprus to enable those forces to use stronger methods against the rival factions in that country.
I would draw the attention of the House to my Written Answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Richmond, Surrey (Mr. A. Royle) and the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Rowley Regis and Tipton (Mr. A. Henderson) on 5th May.The British contingent, like the other contingents in the United Nations force, is being actively used for the purposes set forth in the Security Council resolution of 4th March and carries arms which may be used, in accordance with the directives of the Secretary-General, in the discharge of its functions.
Yemen
54.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what reply was given by the United Nations to the Imam of Yemen's invitation to send observers to verify the bombing by Egyptian MIG and Ilyushin aircraft of Shahara, near Hajja; whether he is aware that such bombing has lately been intensified; and what information he has about the action proposed to be taken by the United Nations to secure the observation of international conventions on the conduct of warfare thus violated and the fulfilment of the disengagement agreement.
I am not aware of any such invitation from the Imam to the Secretary-General, or of any reply. My information is that aircraft from Yemeni Republican territory continue bombing. I cannot say whether this has increased.No action has been taken in the United Nations about possible violation of international conventions on warfare. The Secretary-General's report of 3rd March said that his Special Representative had called the United Arab Republic's urgent attention to the increase in their forces this year.
Detained Persons (Government Representations)
55.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs by what criteria he decides to make, or withhold, representations to foreign Governments on behalf of British-born citizens who possess dual nationality and who are detained in foreign countries without trial.
Her Majesty's Government do not make formal representations to the Government of another country on behalf of citizens of that country who may be detained there. Her Majesty's Government are not entitled under international practice to accord such protection to a British subject possessing the nationality of a second country, when the person concerned is in that country.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in how many cases his Department has been asked to make representations to foreign Governments on behalf of United Kingdom citizens who possess dual nationality and who have been detained without trial abroad in the last three years; if he will give details of each case; and what action was taken by his Department.
Examination of the immediately available records has disclosed no case within the last three years in which Her Majesty's Government have made or have been asked to make representations on behalf of a dual national to the Government of the country of his second nationality on account of the detention without trial of the person concerned, with the exception of Mr. Sydney Kitching.Mr. Kitching is a dual national. He was born in this country and went to South Africa where he acquired South African citizenship in accordance with the South African Citizenship Act, 1949. Her Majesty's Embassy reported on 22nd April last that Mr. Kitching had been detained in Johannesburg. Her Majesty's Consul General made informal inquiries of the South African authorities who confirmed that Mr. Kitching was being detained under the General Law Amendment Act, 1963, but declined to comment on the reasons for his arrest or on the prospects of his release.Her Majesty's Government are not entitled by international law and practice to make formal representations to the Government of another country on behalf of citizens of that country who may be detained there.
Senator Fulbright (Visit)
56.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what discussions he had during the visit to Europe of Senator Fulbright, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, on recent proposals for relaxing East-West tension, including proposals for the recognition of two German states.
Senator Fulbright's visit took place while my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary was in the Far East and the Senator had a meeting with my right hon. and noble Friend the Minister without Portfolio. East-West relations were not discussed. Senator Fulbright also saw my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.
Baltic Bonds
57.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what progress has been made in the discussions concerning Baltic Bonds in Moscow; whether the British delegation have returned to this country; and what is to be the next step.
The group of Foreign Office officials have now returned from Moscow where they held 11 meetings with Soviet officials. The discussions were confined to technical matters of documentation concerning a wide range of post-1939 claims on both sides, including those in respect of Baltic Bonds. They took place in a friendly and businesslike atmosphere. The report submitted by the officials is now under consideration by the Foreign Office and the other interested Departments of Her Majesty's Government, and a decision on the next step will be taken as soon as possible.
Soviet Union, Hungary And Rumania (Debt Repayment)
58.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, in view of the fresh drive being made for trade with Russia and the Iron Curtain countries, what steps are being taken, in addition to the discussions on Baltic Bonds, to clear up the outstanding claims on Russia, Hungary, and Rumania for defaults on pre-war bonds.
As regards Rumania, under the Finance Agreements of 10th November, 1960, bonded debt claims are to be discussed in 1966.As regards the Soviet Union, it was agreed in 1959 that claims arising as a result of the October Revolution should be left in abeyance pending a settlement of the post-1939 claims.As regards Hungary, we have recently once again approached the Hungarians about debt repayment.
South Africa (Detained Persons)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many persons who possess British passports are at present being detained without trial in South Africa.
No persons possessing British passports are known to Her Majesty's Consular Officers to be detained without trial in South Africa, other than Mr. Sydney Kitching.Five days ago Mr. Theo Musi was arrested. He had been ordered by the South African authorities to be deported to Bechuanaland last year and had allegedly evaded deportation. He is expected to some to trial very soon.Mr. Musi has applied for a Bechuanaland passport and is reported to be considered by the South African authorities a Bechuanaland citizen.
Foreign Secretary (Tokyo Visit)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in view of British commitments and interests in South-East Asia, what consultations he has had with the Prime Minister of Japan in regard to securing a peaceful settlement between Indonesia and Malaysia; and if he will make a statement.
On my recent visit to Tokyo I had useful discussions with both the Prime Minister and the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Japan. As the statement issued at the time showed, we discussed fully in an atmosphere of understanding the problem of Indonesian aggression against Malaysia. I emphasised that we would continue to honour our obligations towards Malaysia. I also made it clear that whenever the Indonesian Government were ready to take a sincere initiative for a negotiated settlement on terms acceptable to Malaysia, they would encounter no obstacle on our part. I think our discussions left the Japanese Government with a clearer understanding of our position and that they will be ready to offer their assistance whenever this seems appropriate. I intend to maintain regular contact on this issue. The House would of course be kept fully informed of any developments.
Nuclear Weapons
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what information is in the possession of his Department on nuclear weapons held by the Egyptian Government and the Government of the State of Israel.
None.
Public Building And Works
Somerset House
59.
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he is satisfied that Somerset House is a suitable building for the Board of Inland Revenue and the General Register Office; and whether he will make this building available for social occasions.
The answer to the first part of the hon. Gentleman's Question is "Yes", and to the second part "No".
Hospitals
New Maternity Unit, North Staffordshire
60.
asked the Minister of Health when work will be commenced on the construction of the new maternity unit for North Staffordshire; and what priority will be given to the proposed new pathology department.
Later this year; the new pathology department is being brought forward as a separate scheme, to start by 1968–69.
Maternity Beds, Bristol
62.
asked the Minister of Health what steps are now being taken to increase the number of maternity beds in Bristol, where there is a shortage.
Work on major maternity units at Frenchay and the Bristol teaching hospital is planned to start in 1965 and 1967 respectively.
Tonsil Operations, Bristol
63.
asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that schoolchildren in Bristol have to wait for a long period for tonsil operations, which causes further deterioration in the child's health; and if he will take steps to provide greater facilities through the regional hospital boards for these children.
Non-urgent cases have to wait for several months but urgent cases are dealt with at once. The Regional Hospital Board intends to appoint an additional registrar and is considering the extension of operating facilities.
Operations (Kidney Replacement)
64.
asked the Minister of Health how many operations for the transfer of a kidney from a healthy person to replace a diseased kidney in another person have taken place during the past five years; and in how many cases these operations have been successful.
No central record of these operations is kept.
Catering (Mental Hospitals)
65.
asked the Minister of Health why the average cost of catering salaries and wages per patient fed each week in pyschiatric, mental sub-normality, hospitals is 6s. 11d. as against 18s. 9d. in acute hospitals.
The main reasons for lower catering staff costs in the psychiatric hospitals are that catering is simpler, with fewer special diets, and that it is generally done on a larger scale.
66.
asked the Minister of Health whether he is satisfied that the quality of food provided in psychiatric hospitals is of comparable quality with the food provided in acute hospitals.
I have no reason to think that the quality of food purchased by psychiatric hospitals is, in general, unsatisfactory, but, as my noble Friend knows, a detailed study is now in progress, covering costs, quantities and standards of food provided in twelve psychiatric hospitals.
New Hospital, Bristol
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that a new general hospital, to be sited in South Bristol, was foreshadowed in A Hospital Plan for England and Wales, Command Paper No. 1604, and that his predecessor said it would be commenced about 1965–66 with the provision of two maternity wards, comprising 34 beds; whether the recent statement by the South-West Regional Hospital Board announcing the deferring of the building of a new hospital in South Bristol was issued with his authority; and what are his reasons for not implementing the undertaking given by his predecessor.
Cmnd. 1604 listed the first phase of a new hospital in South Bristol among major schemes expected to start between 1966–67 and 1970–71. I am not aware of any undertaking that it would start in 1965–66, and I understand that the South Western Regional Hospital Board has made no statement about the scheme except to confirm that it is not among the schemes listed in the latest revision of the plan as expected to start in the years 1964–65 to 1968–69. Priority is being given in the next five years to the building of a maternity unit at Frenchay Hospital, new operating theatres at Southmead Hospital, new accident and emergency and out-patient departments at Bristol Royal Infirmary, a new maternity unit and a Regional Radio-therapy Centre on the Teaching Hospital site.
Hospital Plan (Deferred Schemes)
asked the Minister of Health if he will list by regions those schemes estimated to cost £1,000,000 and over which were scheduled in the Hospital Plan, Command Paper No. 1604, to start not later than 1970–71, and which have now been deferred beyond 1973–74, indicating the present estimated cost of each scheme.
With changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects and the bringing forward and enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms to defer until after 1973–74 some of the projects in Command Paper 1604. Of the schemes so deferred, those likely to cost more than £1 million are listed below. As the programme has been expanded and revised, some of the schemes have changed considerably from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further. For this reason and because an early start is not expected, estimates made now of their eventual cost would be misleading.
Newcastle Region—Sunderland General Hospital—new ward blocks.
East Anglian Region
- West Suffolk General Hospital—geriatric and maternity units, etc.
- Great Yarmouth New Hospital—first phase.
North West Metropolitan Region
- Royal Northern Hospital—first phase of redevelopment.
- Shrodells Hospital, Watford—first phase of major redevelopment.
North East Metropolitan Region
- St. George's Hospital, Hornchurch—new out-patient and X-ray departments.
- Chase Farm Hospital, Enfield—extensive rebuilding.
- Harts Hospital, Woodford Green—new district general hospital.
- Whipps Cross Hospital, Leytonstone—extensions and improvements.
- Harold Wood Hospital—completion of new hospital.
- Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford—new district general hospital.
South West Metropolitan Region
- Manor Hospital, Epsom—rebuilding.
- New Hospital for mentally subnormal in south-west Surrey.
Wessex Region—St. Mary's Hospital, Portsmouth—ward blocks and operating theatres.
South Western Region—New geriatric hospital at Devizes.
Birmingham Region—Prestwood Hospital, near Stourbridge—new hospital.
Manchester Region
- Barrow Hospital—second phase of new hospital.
- Stepping Hill Hospital, Stockport—expansion and rebuilding.
- Salford Royal Hospital—first phase of new hospital.
- Royal Albert Edward Infirmary, Wigan—first phase of rebuilding.
Ministry Of Health
Public Health Inspectors
61.
asked the Minister of Health whether he recognises the R.S.H. Jamaican Public Health Inspector's Certificate as a qualification for appointment as a public health inspector in this country.
Overseas qualifications are not recognised in the Public Health Officers Regulations, 1959, but individual dispensations can be given in suitable cases.
Franks Committee (Report)
67.
asked the Minister of Health what action he has taken, since the publication of the Franks Committee Report, Command Paper No. 218, on Recommendations 54, 56 and 57 relating to the National Health Service; and when those Recommendations are to be implemented.
The Government have already announced that they are unable to accept recommendation 56. I am awaiting the views of the Council on Tribunals on recommendation 57, which has been discussed with the Council. On recommendation 54, I do not think that assistance from Ministry or Executive Council officials in the preparation of cases would be easy to reconcile with the functions of the Ministry and the Councils in determining the cases.
Doctors (Emigration)
68.
asked the Minister of Health when it is intended to publish the result of the study now being undertaken to establish the number of British-born doctors who have emigrated permanently; and if this number will be broken down into age groups of under and over 35.
I will consider how to do this when the study has been completed.
Doctors' And Dentists' Remuneration (Review Body)
asked the Minister of Health if he will state the present membership of the Review Body on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration and the main occupations of the members.
:Chairman:
Lord Kindersley, C.B.E., M.C., Chairman and Director of Companies.
Members:
- W. A. Bagnall, Esq., Q.C., Queen's Counsel.
- Professor S. R. Dennison, C.B.E., Professor of Economics, University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
- Sir Archibald Forbes, G.B.E., Chairman and Director of Companies.
- J. H. Gunlake, Esq., C.B.E., Consultant Actuary.
- Sir Malcolm Knox, LL.D., Principal, University of St. Andrews.
There is one vacancy.
Mental Health Hostels
asked the Minister of Health (1) how many of the non-domestic staff in local authority mental health hostels have attended special training courses; how many are attending such courses at present; and how many places will be available in courses now under consideration;(2) what minimum standards of training are laid down for persons taking up non-domestic staff posts in local authority mental health hostels;(3) what was the number of non-domestic staff in local authority mental health hostels during each of the past three years; and what is the figure at the latest available date;(4) what steps he is taking to arrange training courses for non-domestic staff for local authority mental health hostels.
The number employed, in whole-time equivalents, on 31st December was 71 in 1961, 116 in 1962 and 227 in 1963. The other figures asked for are not available. No national standards of training are laid down; it is for each local authority to decide what qualifications and experience are appropriate for any appointment. I understand that one special two-week course attended by 18 persons was held by the National Association for Mental Health early this year and that others are under consideration, but I do not know how many places may be provided. A Committee appointed by the National Council of Social Service is at present considering the staffing of all types of residential homes, including the question of training.
South Arabian Federation
Deaths Of British Soldiers
69.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what steps were taken by his Department to verify the accuracy of the rumours circulating in the South Arabian Federation regarding the alleged decapitation of two British Service men before they were given currency by the General Officer Commanding, Middle East Forces.
The Colonial Office had no information on this matter in advance of the statement by the General Officer Commanding.
Industry, Trade And Regional Development
United Nations Conference On Trade And Development
71.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development if he will publish a White Paper containing the texts of the main proposals submitted by Governments and international organisations to the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development in Geneva.
I fear that this would not be practicable in view of the great, and still increasing, number of important documents. The United Nations intends to publish a Record of Proceedings of the Conference which will contain all the main documents submitted to it.
Advance Factory, Crook And Willington
asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development how many applications have been received from industrialists to the latest convenient date to take over the advance factory, standing idle for the past nine months, in the Crook and Willington Urban District Council area.
Two The first was not proceeded with but the second is in the closing stages of negotiation.
Ministry Of Aviation
City Centres And Airports (Transport Systems)
asked the Minister of Aviation what investigations he has now made as to methods of decreasing the time of travel between city centres and airports; and to what extent the advantages of a monorail system for this purpose have been considered, in view of the increasing speed, volume and all-weather capability of air travel between airports and the relative slowness of ground travel between city centres and airports.
The surface traffic generated by any British civil aerodrome other than Heathrow is not yet sufficiently great to justify a special transport system. Forseeable needs can probably best be met by improving existing means of access or providing short links with existing roads.The amount of traffic at Heathrow puts it in a different category. An interdepartmental Committee on which airlines are also represented has been studying the question of providing rail access, but so far no generally acceptable solution has been found. As regards monorail systems my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport has agreed to investigate along with my officials any proposals submitted to him in sufficient detail. Interested developers have been told the sort of detailed information that he requires.
Aldergrove Airport
asked the Minister of Aviation what are the respective costs of fitting hand rails on both sides of the ramp at the civil airport at Aldergrove in County Antrim and of covering the surface of the ramp with non-skid composition, similar to that in use at Manchester airport; and how long it would take to complete such work.
Approximately £300 and £1,200. About one month.
Ferranti, Ltd (Bloodhound Contract)
asked the Minister of Aviation, in relation to the Ferranti Bloodhound contract, what percentage of the labour cost of £574,000 had been incurred by October, 1960, when the price was agreed.
84 per cent.
British Army
Brancepeth Camp
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what use is being made of the Brancepeth Camp buildings of brick structure, now vacated by the Army.
None, at present. It is possible that there may be a future Army use for this camp.
National Finance
Civil Service Administrative Class (Entry)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state the subjects of the examination for the administrative class of the Civil Service, the choice of subjects required of candidates and the maximum number of marks obtainable in each subject.
There are two methods of entry to the Administrative Class, by open competition from outside the Civil Service.In both methods candidates normally have to take a qualifying examination in general subjects (Essay 100 marks, English 200, General Paper 200). Candidates by one method then go on to group tests and interviews at the Civil Service Selection Board and an interview by the Final Board; there is no further academic examination but a good honours degree, which can be in any subject, is a necessary qualification.
In the other method candidates need not have a degree. They take papers set and marked at final honours degree level, and also have an interview. There is a choice of 149 academic subjects; each paper carries 100 marks but in some subjects there are two papers. Subject to certain exceptions, candidates can choose any combination of subjects giving a possible total of up to 700 marks. Full details of the examination subjects and the limitations of the choice of papers will be found on pages 28–30 of the Civil Service Commission's Regulations for the Administrative Group of Open Competitions, a copy of which I am sending to the hon. Member. It will be seen that those who have studied mathematical or scientific subjects are thus placed at no disadvantage.
Gross National Product
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what information he has as to how output per head of the population in Great Britain, measured in £s sterling, compares with that of West Germany, Belgium, France, the Netherlands, and Italy, respectively.
The table below shows the gross national product, at factor cost, per head of the population in 1962. The figures are given in national currencies, since conversion to sterling at the official rates of exchange would be misleading.
| Country | Gross national product per head of population |
| United Kingdom | £470 |
| West Germany (including West Berlin | DM. 5,370 |
| Belgium | Frs. 61,300 |
| France | NF. 6,420 |
| Netherlands | Guilders 3,660 |
| Italy | Lire 432,000 |
Roads
Barrow And West Cumberland (Communications)
asked the Minister of Transport whether he will give instructions for an urgent exploratory survey to be made of road connections from M.6 to the neighbourhood of Hest Bank and from Bardsea to the Duddon which, by linking up with a barrage, would form part of a scheme to improve communications generally to Barrow and West Cumberland.
Schemes which have been put forward for a barrage across Morecambe Bay incorporating a road to improve communications with Barrow and West Cumberland are already being examined by the North-West Regional Study Group as part of the study announced on 2nd March by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development. My Department is associated with this study.
Housing
London (Land)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will in- vite the councils of each of the London boroughs and the City to submit to him estimates of the additional population they could expect to accommodate by 1981, on the basis of both actual and potential developments, for comparison with the estimates based on demographic considerations being prepared by the Registrar General.
The London White Paper of February, 1963, referred to the need for a survey of the housing land capacity of London and concluded that this would need to be done by a single authority with the power to plan ways and means of increasing the capacity. My right hon. Friend would expect a comprehensive survey of this kind, which would include a reappraisal of existing planning policies, to be one of the first major tasks of the Greater London Council.