Written Answers To Questions
Thursday, 4th June, 1964
Home Department
Prisoners (Earnings)
8.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement showing the current average weekly earnings of men serving prison sentences, giving the aggregate of such earnings last year.
In a recent week the average was 4s. 10d. The aggregate last year was about £300,000. These figures exclude the earnings of prisoners who go out to work for normal wages on the hostel scheme.
Rural District And Parish Council Elections
14.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further consideration he has given to extending, the provisions for postal and proxy voting in rural district and parish council elections under the Representation of the People Act in respect of handicapped persons, since his Department answered the hon. Member for Petersfield in June 1961 that when an opportunity for amending legislation occurred their electoral difficulties would be given consideration.
The question of providing for absent voting facilities at rural district and parish council elections continues to be kept in mind for possible amending legislation: no opportunity for such legislation has so far arisen.
Electoral Register
19.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied that the present system for compiling the Electoral Register is comprehensive; and if he will institute a thorough follow-up system by local electoral officers to include residents whose names may have been inadvertently omitted by a house occupier.
The small percentage of omissions from the register suggests that the present system is as comprehensive as possible. If more people would take advantage of their opportunity to inspect the electors' lists while they are on public display between 28th November and 16th December each year the percentage would be still further reduced.
20.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what estimate he has of the percentage of people entitled to be included who are left off the Electoral Register each time it is newly compiled.
A sample study by the Social Survey Division of the Central Office of Information carried out in 1950 found that, of the persons entitled to be registered as electors, the number included in the register for that year represented some 96 per cent. I have no more recent information.
Foster Parents
37.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to require newspapers when publishing advertisements seeking foster parents to publish a warning notice about the legal responsibilities of foster parents under Section 3 of the Children Act, 1958.
This is an interesting suggestion, but I am not sure whether it would be right to place a statutory responsibility upon newspapers to publish notices in relation to arrangements which are not their direct concern.
Attachment Of Earnings Orders
38.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to ensure that attachment of earnings orders is applied without interruption on changes of employment.
No. An attachment of earnings order is directed to the named employer of a person who has defaulted in his obligations under a maintenance order, and requires the employer to make deductions calculated with regard to the employee's earnings and expenses. When the employee changes his employment it is essential that the matter should again be brought before the court so that any necessary adjustments may be made to take into account any changes in earnings or other circumstances.
Child Care Officers
32.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his present estimate of the shortage of child care officers; how many potential child care officers are under training; and when their allowances and conditions of training were last reviewed by his department.
On 31st January, 1964, there were 237 vacancies in a total child care officer establishment of 1,980. 232 students are at present under training, including about 60 serving child care officers. The child care student grant scheme was fully reviewed last year.
Maintenance Orders
39.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied that the law on the enforcement of maintenance orders has been working satisfactorily since the last general review in 1958; and if he will conduct a further review.
My right hon. Friend is aware and much regrets that in some cases difficulties are experienced in enforcing maintenance orders. These were not unforeseen when the law was last changed in 1958, but it proved impossible to devise any fair and practical way of forestalling all of them. While my right hon. Friend is naturally very ready to consider any suggestions for further improvement of the law, he can see no advantage in a general review.
Car Parking (Saturday Mornings)
43.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it is the policy of the Metropolitan Police to tow away cars on a Saturday morning in areas where there is no charge for meters on a Saturday, when the car is left adjoining but not in a parking bay; and if he is satisfied that such a policy is in the public interest.
Parking Places Orders prohibit the parking of vehicles at prescribed times, save for certain purposes, at places other than parking bays, and it is the duty of the police to enforce this prohibition whether or not charges are levied for the use of the parking bays.
Mr Bensen
44.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will state his reasons for asking Mr. Bert Bensen, a citizen of the United States, to leave Great Britain.
I have asked Mr. Bensen to leave the country because I am satisfied that his continued presence here would not be in the public interest
Pentonville Prison
45.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how much he estimates it would cost to divide Pentonville Prison into four self-contained units, as described in the proposal a copy of which has been sent to him.
I can give no firm estimate, but the cost would be very high indeed, for the problem of dividing Pentonville into four self-contained units would be far more intractable than the author of the proposal has realised, and the constructional work entailed far more extensive.
Horserace Betting Levy And Totalisator Boards (Appointments)
49.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the duration of the appointment of those members of the Horserace Betting Levy Board and of the Horse-race Totalisator Board whom he appoints; and what is the procedure for reviewing such appointments.
The appointments are for a period of three years, and the current appointment to both Boards expire on 31st August, 1964. Under the Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act, 1963, the appointments are entirely at my right hon. Friend's discretion and there is no prescribed procedure as to their review.
Police (Cadet Corps)
50.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the fact that there is a shortage of police in the country, he will take steps to provide for the formation of cadet corps for young people on the lines of the Air Training Corps so that they may be encouraged to join the police service on reaching the required age.
Many forces have full-time paid cadets. At the end of April there were 3,400 boys and 184 girls in full-time training with police forces in England and Wales, and the cadets are an invaluable source of good quality recruits for the police service. One or two forces also have part-time unpaid cadets, who attend for training once a week, and it is open to other forces to follow their example. This is a recent development, and my right hon. Friend is taking a close interest in its progress.
Debt (Court Orders)
51.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people are in prison for debt by reason of the fact that they had not complied with a court order; and what were the average length of stay in prison and the total amount of money owed in the years 1962 and 1963.
The number of non-criminal prisoners received in 1962 is stated in the table on page 15 of the Statistical Tables to the Prison Commissioners' Annual Report for that year, but I regret that the more detailed information asked for by my hon. Friend is not available.
Approved Schools (Medical Cases)
52 and 53.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will set up medical centres to deal with pregnancy and psychiatric cases at present often sent to approved schools;(2) what steps he is taking to separate medical cases from cases of delinquency in approved schools.
I am not convinced it would be right to separate boys and girls sent to approved schools as being in need of care, protection or control from those committed for delinquency. Boys and girls in either category who are found to need residential medical or psychiatric treatment are transferred to appropriate establishments, and I do not think any new kind of establishment is needed for them. Special arrangements for pregnant approved school girls are being considered.
Hooliganism
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions he has had since the recent cases of gang rioting with a view to legislation against such occurrences, so as to relieve ratepayers of the full cost of repairing the damage done.
I would refer the hon. Member to my statement in reply to Questions today.
Industry, Trade And Regional Development
Nuclear Reactors (Exports To Eastern Countries)
55.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development why British firms were denied opportunities by Her Majesty's Government to tender for atomic energy plants to be supplied and erected in Roumania for electric power generation, in view of the fact that United States firms are now tendering for identical plants; and whether he will make a statement.
Nuclear reactors are subject to the international embargo which is operated by the U.S.A. and others as well as by ourselves. In the view of my right hon. Friend the modification of the embargo to allow the export of reactors to Eastern area countries, subject to appropriate safeguards, merits consideration. Unless and until the export is agreed internationally he would not be prepared to issue a licence.
Fish Exports (Ussr)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development if he is aware that exports of fish and fish preparations to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics for the first quarter of 1964 amounted to £16,952, whereas imports were £1,191,825; and what new steps he is taking to assist British fish exports to this market.
Yes. My right hon. Friend will continue to seek outlets for our exports of fish and fish preparations to the Soviet Union in our quota negotiations with the Soviet authorities. Discussions are now proceeding on quotas for the eighteen months ending 31st December, 1965.
Yorkshire (Regional Study)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development whether he is yet in a position to make a statement about a regional study for Yorkshire.
I have arranged for the necessary preliminary work to be put in hand on the assembly and collation of the basis factual material which will need to be taken into account in considering the future development of the East and West Ridings of Yorkshire, and adjacent areas. This will be done under the leadership of the Board of Trade's Regional Controller in Leeds working under the general direction of the Interdepartmental Steering Group on Regional Development which reports to me in London. A full scale study will follow in due course.
Education
School Building
57.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish in HANSARD of the school building programme requested by the Tottenham Education Authority in their recent application and the amount of the programme he allowed; what representations he has received from the locally and nationally elected representatives of the people against his decision; when these representations were made; what was the nature of his reply; and whether he will make a statement.
I will publish details of the relative projects proposed by the Middlesex Local Education Authority as candidates for the school building programmes for 1965–67 and of the £354,000 project I have approved. I have not received any representations.The following are the details:
| Tottenham Projects proposed by the Middlesex Local Education Authority as Candidates for the 1965–66 and 1966–67 Programmes | |
| 1965–66 | |
| Downhills Infants School—rebuilding | £43,876 |
| Downhills Secondary School—rebuilding | £425,535 |
| St. Ignatius College (Roman Catholic)—rebuilding at Enfield | £354,393 |
| (This project was included in the approved programme.) | |
1966–67
| |
| Rowland Hill Secondary School—extension and remodelling | £429,400 |
(No Tottenham projects have been proposed for the 1967–68 programme.)
63.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the cost of the school building programmes submitted by the Kent Education Committee in the years 1958–59, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1961–62, and 1962–63, in respect of major works and minor works, respectively; and what were the amounts approved.
The information is given in the following tables:
| MINOR BUILDING PROGRAMMES | |||
| Year | Value of work proposed by Authority | Value of programme approved | |
| (£000's) | (£000's) | ||
| 1958–59 | … | 2,420 | 1,235 |
| 1959–60 | … | 2,548 | 749 |
| 1960–61 | … | 2,399 | 962 |
| 1961–62 | … | 1,116 | |
| 1962–63 | … | 3,540 | 1,552 |
| MINOR WORKS PROGRAMME | |||
| Year | Value of work proposed by Authority | Value of programme approved | |
| (£000's) | (£000's) | ||
| 1958–59* | … | — | — |
| 1959–60† | … | — | 330 |
| 1960–61 | … | 876 | 455 |
| 1961–62 | … | 650 | 400‡ |
| 1962–63 | … | 612 | |
| *In 1958–59 projects were still submitted individually to the Department; no overall programme was approved. | |||
| †Proposals were not called for In 1959–60. | |||
| ‡Covering the period 1.10.61 to 31.3.63. | |||
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion in value of the proposals put forward by Staffordshire for the 1965–66 schoolbuilding programme he approved; and what proportions of the projects he approved were for primary and secondary education, respectively.
The value of proposals put forward for the 1965–66 major building programme was £6,537,000, and the value of projects programmed was £1,817,000. Of this total, primary projects accounted for £913,000 and secondary projects for £904,000. The proportion of projects programmed was thus 28 per cent., in approximately equal shares for primary and secondary projects.
Yorkshire North District Workers' Educational Association
56.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why he has refused to provide sufficient grants to the Yorkshire North District of the Workers' Education Society, which includes Barton-on-Humber, to enable it to provide the classes for which there is actual demand.
My grant to the Yorkshire North District of the Workers' Educational Association in 1964–65 has not yet been settled, but I have told all the responsible bodies that I shall be unable to grant-aid any expansion of their work in 1964–65.
Newcastle-Under-Lyme College Of Further Education
60.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science on what date building work commenced on the Newcastle-under-Lyme College of Further Education; how long it will take to complete; and how many places it will provide.
I understand that work on the first instalment started about a month ago and that the contract provides for completion in 22 months. The instalment will give accommodation for 178 full-time and 236 part-time students.
Day Release (Report)
61.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the Henniker Heaton Report on Day Release.
I am grateful to Mr. Henniker Heaton and his colleagues on the Committee for their important and valuable Report.The Committee were appointed in November, 1962, after a meeting with national organisations representing employers, trade unions, local education authorities and technical colleges, which recommended that a right to day release could not be granted without holding back the prospects for other urgent educational developments, but that further consideration should be given to other ways of achieving a substantial increase in the grant of day release to young people under 18.The Committee's main proposal is that a national target shall be set of at least an additional 250,000 boys and girls obtaining release from employment for further education by 1969–70. Industrial Training Boards are urged to pay the greatest attention to day and other forms of release, and in the Committee's view this should become a requirement in appropriate cases. In co-operation with employers and trade unions, local education authorities should conduct sustained campaigns directed at achieving local targets within the national total. The operation should be under the general aegis of the National Advisory Council on Education for Industry and Commerce. Attainment of the national target would about double the present numbers.For their part, the Government are prepared to accept the Committee's proposal, but the local education authorities and industry will be closely involved, and I am consulting the national representative bodies forthwith about the action which should be taken to give effect to the Report.
Sixth Form Accommodation
62.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in view of the increasing number of pupils staying on at school, what consideration he has given to the problems of accommodation created by the increasing size of sixth forms; and what steps he proposes to take.
A new Building Bulletin on this subject is with the printer and my Department is undertaking a development project at the Rosebery Grammar School for Girls, Epsom. A parallel development project is being undertaken by the Lancashire Local Education Authority at the Morecambe Grammar School.
East Riding
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many pupils in the East Riding of Yorkshire were continuing their education at grammar or secondary modern schools after the age of 15 years in the years 1951 and 1963, respectively.
The table below shows the number of pupils in maintained schools
| Type of School | Age last birthday | Total | |||||||||
| 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 and over | |||||||
| Numbers | Percent-age of age group | Numbers | Percent-age of age group | Numbers | Percent-age of age group | Numbers | Percent-age of age group | Numbers | Percent-age of age group | ||
| All Age | 6 | 0·16 | 3 | 0·07 | — | — | — | — | — | — | 9 |
| Grammar | 321 | 8·56 | 277 | 6·76 | 121 | 3·85 | 68 | 2·04 | 6 | 0·20 | 793 |
| General Secondary | 919 | 24·49 | 310 | 7·57 | 39 | 1·24 | 8 | 0·24 | 1 | 0·03 | 1,277 |
| Bilateral— | |||||||||||
| Modern streams | 112 | 3·00 | 49 | 1·20 | 25 | 0·80 | 9 | 0·27 | — | — | 195 |
| Grammar streams | 158 | 4·21 | 88 | 2·15 | 31 | 0·99 | 16 | 0·48 | — | — | 293 |
| TOTAL | 1,516 | 40·41 | 727 | 17·75 | 216 | 6·87 | 101 | 3·03 | 7 | 0·23 | 2,567 |
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many children in the East Riding of Yorkshire who did not pass their 11-plus examination are now in schools built since the war; and what percentage this figure represents of all such pupils.
10,184 pupils were registered, in January 1963, in general secondary schools, in modern streams of bilateral schools and in the senior departments of all-age schools, in the East Riding of Yorkshire.7,317 such pupils were in schools built after the war and taken into use by the end of 1962, and 613 pupils in schools opened in 1963. These figures represent respectively 72 and 5 per cent. of all pupils in non-selective schools and streams.In addition, 1,265 new places were provided in older schools.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many new schools or substantial additions to schools have been built in the East Riding of Yorkshire in each year since 1945.
in the East Riding of Yorkshire, aged 15 years and over, by type of school and by individual age, in January 1963. There are no secondary modern schools in the county.
Comparable information for 1951 is not available.
Following is the information. The total cost of these projects was approximately £4 million.
| NEW PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOL PROJECTS COMPLETED | ||||
| — | Primary | Secondary | Total | |
| 1945–48 | … | — | — | — |
| 1949 | … | — | 1 | 1 |
| 1950 | … | — | 2 | 2 |
| 1951 | … | — | 1 | 1 |
| 1952 | … | — | 1 | 1 |
| 1953 | … | 3 | — | 3 |
| 1954 | … | 3 | 3 | 6 |
| 1955 | … | — | 2 | 2 |
| 1956 | … | — | 2 | 2 |
| 1957 | … | — | 2 | 2 |
| 1958 | … | — | 5 | 5 |
| 1959 | … | — | — | — |
| 1960 | … | 1 | 2 | 3 |
| 1961 | … | 2 | 1 | 3 |
| 1962 | … | 3 | 1 | 4 |
| 1963 | … | 3 | 3 | 6 |
| Total | … | 15 | 26 | 41 |
Classes (Size)
64.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the number of primary classes with more than 40 pupils, and of secondary classes with more than 30 pupils, is the Thames-side and North-West Divisional Executive areas, respectively.
In January, 1963, there were 25 primary classes in the Thames-side Divisional Executive area with more than 40 pupils and 85 secondary classes with more than 30 pupils. The corresponding figures for North-West Kent were 32 junior and 94 senior classes.
Workers' Educational Association, Wales
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many representations have been made to him for approval of a full-time tutor-organiser for Mid-Wales by the Workers' Educational Association in Wales; and why the latest application has not been agreed to.
Representations were first made in 1958, and renewed in 1963 and 1964. Funds are not available to grant-aid any additional posts in the current year.
Dental Caries
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will state the rate of dental caries among five-year-old schoolchildren for each of the local education authorities included in the sample survey last autumn; and what statistical inferences he draws from these figures on the effectiveness of natural and artificial fluoridation of water supplies as a means of inhibiting decay.
The following is the answer:
| per cent. | ||
| Manchester | … | 82·6 |
| Middlesex | … | 75·9 |
| Northumberland | … | 86·4 |
| Nottinghamshire | … | 74·6 |
| Somerset | … | 80·8 |
| Yorkshire, West Riding | … | 84·5 |
| East Sussex | … | 70·7 |
Open-Air Camps
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will introduce legislation to enable him to sponsor special open-air camps with courses of the Outward Bound type as a method of counteracting idleness and boredom in youth.
Legislation is unnecessary. Local education authorities can and do make such provision; and voluntary youth organisations are grant-aided by my Department to do so.
Science
Nuclear Fuels
58.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what estimates he has made of future trends in the costs of various types of nuclear fuel, and of the value of irradiated fuel residues.
Provided that uranium ore prices do not increase greatly, improvements in manufacturing techniques and the development of new types of fuel elements capable of longer irradiation should lead to a steady fall in the fuel costs of generating electricity from nuclear stations of all types. Although actual costs cannot be anticipated, the Atomic Energy Authority expect the value of plutonium to fall towards the end of this decade but to rise again in the 1970s to an extent dependent on the success achieved with Fast reactors.
Universities
Student Awards
59.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects the review carried out by his Department and the local authority associations, of the regulations governing award to students, particularly in so far as they relate to the payment of dependants' allowances to students, to be completed.
I hope to complete this review before the Summer Recess.
Catering
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the amount per week allowed for the purchase of food for men and women students, respectively, living in training colleges.
In voluntary training colleges thirty shillings is allowed for both men and women for each full week's meals. Similar information is not available in respect of colleges maintained by local education authorities, but in 1963 their average expenditure per student on food was about the same.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in calculating grants for university students, what amount is allowed per week for men and women students, respectively, to cover the cost of food for students living at home, living in a provincial university, living in London, and living in Oxford and Cambridge colleges.
Apart from £30 per annum for books and instruments, £30 per annum vacation grant and £10 per annum travelling expenses, grants to students for maintenance are not allocated to specific elements.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many vacancies at present exist in training colleges for catering staff.
The recruitment of catering staff is the responsibility of the governors of the colleges who do not report vacancies to me. I am aware, however, that there is a shortage of senior staff and I am considering what advice I can give to the colleges.
Bristol College Of Science And Technology
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what decision he has reached about the future location of the Bristol College of Science and Technology.
The Bristol College of Science and Technology, which is one of the ten colleges of advanced technology destined for university status, must move from its present site and buildings which it shares with the Bristol Technical College. The Governors reported to me last January that they had been considering various sites and had come to the conclusion that the right choice would be to move to Bath, where the Corporation had generously offered to make a site available for future development. After considering all the factors involved, including the strongly expressed preference of the Governors for the Bath site, and after consulting the University Grants Committee, I have endorsed the Governors' decision.
Transport
School Gates (Ice-Cream Vans)
65.
asked the Minister of Transport if he will introduce legislation to make it illegal for vendors of ice-cream to sell confectionery from motor-vehicles within 200 yards of school gates, without written permission to do so from the local education authority after consideration has been given to road safety factors.
It is already illegal for ice-cream vans to be parked where they would cause danger by obstruction or where they contravene statutory waiting restrictions. I do not think additional legislation of the sort proposed is necessary.
Christmas Road Accidents (Report)
asked the Minister of Transport if he has received the Report of the Road Research Laboratory on Fatal Accidents at Christmas, 1963: and if he will make a statement.
Yes. The Report will be published this afternoon, and copies are available in the Vote Office.The Report reinforces the main conclusion of the 1959 report by the Road Research Laboratory that drink is the main cause of the increased accident rate at Christmas. It is, unfortunately, clear that far too many people have taken no notice of the warnings that have been given, and that the public, who rightly condemn anyone who drives when plainly drunk, do not sufficiently realise that small amounts of alcohol can impair a driver's judgment and skill sufficiently to make it unsafe for him to drive, even though he appears to be sober.It was because of the dangerous effect which even small quantities of alcohol can have on drivers that in the Road Traffic Act, 1962, the law was changed to provide that a person is unfit to drive "if his ability to do so properly is for the time being impaired". Thus, if it is established that ability to drive properly has been impaired as a result of the consumption of alcohol, a driver who is accused of this offence should be convicted, even though it does not appear that he was drunk or in a condition approaching that.The provision of the 1962 Act has been in force only a short time, and we are convinced that it should have every chance to work. Alteration of the law is by itself not enough. Everyone must be brought to realise that driving after drinking even small amounts of alcohol increases the risks, to themselves and to others. When this is realised safety on the roads will be increased and the terrible casualties will be reduced.We must take fresh steps to stir the public conscience on this subject. A campaign will be launched to make plain to all that it is dangerous to drive after drinking even small amounts of alcohol.
National Finance
Bank Holidays
66.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take steps to abolish the practice of fixed bank holidays, in view of the increasing congestion, dangers and discomforts which are now the consequences of such holidays.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister gave in response to a similar Question on 2nd June.
Employment
Factory, Staines (Employment)
67.
asked the Minister of Labour how many persons were employed in the Staines factory of Barry, Ostlere and Shepherd Limited in each of the years 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964.
I regret that this information is confidential.
Northern Region (Migration)
asked the Minister of Labour what was the estimated net migration of insured workers from the Northern Region in 1963.
These figures are calculated for mid-year only. It is estimated that in the year ended mid-1963 the outward migration of employees from the Northern Region exceeded inward migration by 12,000.
Linoleum Industry, Kirkcaldy
asked the Minister of Labour how many linoleum workers were declared redundant in Kirkcaldy in 1963; how many are still unemployed; and how many are expected to register as being unemployed when Barry's works in Kirkcaldy are completely closed in mid-June.
741 redundancies were notified to the Kirkcaldy Employment Exchange by Messrs. Barry, Ostlere and Shepherd during 1963. 48 ex-employees of this firm have been continuously registered as unemployed at the Kirkcaldy Employment Exchange since 1963. I understand that approximately 200 workers will become redundant shortly but I cannot say how many will register at employment exchanges.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Meat And Livestock Exports
68.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to what extent the export of meat and livestock from the United Kingdom to the Continent has been stimulated in recent weeks by the payment of import bonus or tax relief by member countries of the European Economic Community; and if, in view of the situation of the British meat industry, he will seek clarification of their future intent ions and make clear that Her Majesty's Government will take steps to protect the United Kingdom market at times when beef supplies are short of world demand.
The strong market on the Continent and the difference between British and Continental prices provide the attraction for United Kingdom supplies of meat and livestock and there is no reason to think that exports have been particularly stimulated by measures taken in relation to imports by some members of the Six. As I made clear recently, the Government's view is that the national interest would not best be served at present by controlling exports.
Commonwealth Relations
Commonwealth Countries And Colonies (Grants And Loans)
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies what direct aid in grants and loans, respectively, was made available in the last financial year to independent Commonwealth countries and to dependent Colonies, respectively; and what are the corresponding estimates for the current financial year.
The estimated figures on a disbursements basis are:
| —— | £m. | |
| 1963–64 (Revised Estimate) | 1964–65 (Estimates) | |
| Commonwealth countries now independent | ||
| Grants | 42·1 | 51·0 |
| Loans | 49·0 | 60·9 |
| Dependent territories (including those which will or may become independent in 1964–65) | ||
| Grants | 34·5 | 29·4 |
| Loans | 15·5 | 8·7 |
Rhodesia And Nyasaland
University Colleges
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies if he will make a statement about Government financial aid to university colleges in Rhodesia and Nyasaland.
The following is the text of a joint statement by the British and Southern Rhodesia Governments which has been issued today:The financial discussions between the British and Southern Rhodesia Governments about future provision for the University College of Rhodesia and Nyasaland have now been concluded and agreement has been reached which will secure the future of the College including its medical school and projected teaching hospital.The Southern Rhodesia Government will now assume responsibility for the maintenance and development of the College as an independent institution of learning, open to all races, serving not only the higher education requirements of Southern Rhodesia but also contributing to the advancement of knowledge, science and research in Central Africa and within the international community of universities.The British Government have agreed to contribute £750,000 towards meeting the recurrent expenses of the College in the period up to 1967; a capital grant of £800,000 towards the cost of building the teaching hospital and a further grant of some £300,000 towards general capital expenditure.The Southern Rhodesia Government for their portion have accepted the responsibility for securing the substantial balances of both capital and recurrent costs necessary. It is estimated that by 1970 the recurrent expenditure alone on the University College, Medical School and Teaching Hospital will amount to some £1·5 million a year.It is the intention of the Southern Rhodesia Government that the Colleges Institutions, including the faculty of medicine with its associated teaching hospital, should develop as an integrated whole in broad accordance with the draft plans for the period up to 1970 placed before the recent conference on the future of the University by the university authorities and representatives of the former interim board of governors of the teaching hospital.
Laos, Cambodia And Vietnam
69.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the situation in Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.
I have no statement to make in the present delicate and difficult circumstances other than that Her Majesty's Government are actively engaged in consultations with other members of the Geneva Conference about Laos. Meanwhile the Security Council are seized of the dispute between Cambodia and Vietnam.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if, in view of the continued disturbances of the peace in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, he will now propose a summit meeting of the Geneva Conference countries to discuss the problems of South-East Asia and achieve a peace settlement.
Prior conditions for the possible reconvening of the International Conference on the settlement of the Laotian Question are being discussed in the diplomatic consultations now taking place in Vientiane. I am ready to join with the Soviet Co-Chairman in issuing invitations to a Conference on Cambodia once the Governments principally concerned have agreed to participate. I see no advantage in a Conference on Vietnam.
Coal
Coal Mining (Accidents)
asked the Minister of Power what was the ratio of fatalities and reportable accidents, respectively, to men employed in the coal mining industry in each of the years 1937, 1947, 1957 and 1958 to 1963, inclusive.
The following is the information asked for:
| RATES PER THOUSAND PERSONS EMPLOYED | |||
| Year | Deaths | Serious or Reportable Injuries | |
| 1937 | … | 1·07 | 4·2 |
| 1947 | … | 0·85 | 3·4 |
| 1957 | … | 0·54 | 2·2 |
| 1958 | … | 0·45 | 2·4 |
| 1959 | … | 0·51 | 2·4 |
| 1960 | … | 0·51 | 2·5 |
| 1961 | … | 0·40 | 2·5 |
| 1962 | … | 0·45 | 2·7 |
| 1963 | … | 0·47 | 2·6 |
| NOTES: | |||
| (1) The figures before 1957 relate to mines of coal, oil shale, stratified ironstone and fireclay; those from 1957 to coal mines only. The effect of this change is very slight. | |||
| (2) The figures before 1957 include some injuries reported because of their cause even though the injuries were not serious; subsequent figures are of serious injuries only. | |||
Ministry Of Health
Epidemics
asked the Minister of Health what plans he has for consultation and co-operation with Press, radio and television for alerting the public in the event of any serious epidemic, and for providing detailed advice as to the necessary precautions to take.
Warnings and advice are normally arranged locally by the medical officers of health. When however a serious outbreak occurs my Department is in constant touch with the medical officers of health concerned, and all appropriate channels of publicity would be used to make a national announcement if this were required. The Press and broadcasting authorities are always most co-operative and helpful in this.
Public Building And Works
Burlington House
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is the present position with regard to arrangements for the utilisation of that part of Burlington House which is to be vacated by the Royal Society; and whether arrangements will be made to ensure that the scientific organisations in this country will be given adequate opportunity to make use of this space, if so desired.
Consideration is being given to the reallocation of this space in Burlington House to meet the present needs of the other Learned Societies housed in this building. I expect that all the available space will be required for this purpose.
Scotland
Typhoid Outbreak, Aberdeen (Inquiry)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he can yet name the chairman and members of the inquiry into the typhoid epidemic in Aberdeen; and if he will state its terms of reference.
The chairman of the committee of inquiry will be Sir David Milne, formerly Permanet Under-Secretary of State, Scottish Office, and my right hon. Friends and I are grateful to him for agreeing to serve. The other members and the terms of reference will be announced as soon as possible.
Technical Co-Operation
Zanzibar (Ex British Officers)
asked the Secretary for Technical Co-operation if he will make a statement on the payment of salaries, compensation and pensions to British officers, formerly serving in Zanzibar and their dependants.
Since at present salaries, compensation and pensions are not being paid to these officers by the Zanzibar authorities, the sums due have been, and will continue to be, advanced to them by the British Government until arrangements for resuming payments are made in agreement with the Government of the United Republic of Tanganyika and Zanzibar. A Supplementary Estimate to provide for these payments will be presented in due course. Meanwhile necessary drawings will be made from the Civil Contingencies Fund. The question of responsibility for these payments is under discussion with the Union Government.