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Volume 697: debated on Wednesday 1 July 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 1st July, 1964

Transport

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Special Driving Licences)

14.

asked the Minister of Transport when he intends to make regulations appointing the day on which licences to drive heavy vehicles will become compulsory for drivers of such vehicles in accordance with Section 912 of the Road Traffic Act. 1960.

I cannot yet say. But I shall shortly be circulating to employers' organisations and to the unions a draft scheme for special driving licences for heavy goods vehicles. The scheme will provide for graduation up the range of vehicles sizes and types as a driver's experience grows.

Traffic Fumes

15.

asked the Minister of Transport what evidence he has of the harmful effects on health of diesel and other urban traffic fumes; and what steps he proposes to take to reduce them.

The investigations so far conducted have not shown that the concentration of traffic fumes at present found in our city streets has any serious effect on health. Natural dispersion is normally sufficient to prevent harmful concentrations in the air but research into the medical aspects of the whole matter of air pollution, including that from motor vehicles' exhausts, is being carried out by the Medical Research Council.

70.

asked the Minister of Transport what progress he has made in his efforts to enforce the laws governing the emission of offensive smoke and fumes from road vehicles; and if he will make a statement.

The number of vehicles found making too much smoke during a roadside check on 8th April was nearly 3,000 out of a total of 25,570 which were observed. Prohibition notices were issued for 2,068 vehicles. 107 of these became subject to immediate prohibition. Excessive smoke will be one of the things looked for during the intensified roadside checks which are taking place this summer.

79.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take action to ensure that all new cars are fitted with anti-smog devices to reduce atmospheric pollution by car exhaust fumes.

It has not as yet been established that the concentrations of motor vehicle fumes in our streets do constitute a danger to health. In any case the action suggested by the hon. Member is contingent upon the availability of an effective and practicable device.

Evening Classes (Driving Instructors)

48.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will seek power to authorise the payment of fees to police officers and other persons with suitable qualifications, who give lectures or other instruction on driving motor vehicles at evening classes.

No further powers are needed to authorise payment of fees to persons giving instruction on driving motor vehicles at evening classes.

Road Users (Driving Instruction)

52.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that there is a considerable demand for further driving instruction from persons who already hold a licence to drive a motor vehicle; and what action he will take to make this available or to assist suitable organisations who are already providing such instruction.

I know there is some demand for this sort of instruction, but I think arrangements for making it available are best left to local authorities who know the conditions and facilities in their own areas and have powers to arrange for practical training for road users.

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Roadworthy Tests)

56.

asked the Minister of Transport what percentage of heavy goods vehicles on which road-side inspections were carried out by his Department's technical officers in the past 12 months was found to be mechanically unsound and unroadworthy.

During the 12 months ended 31st March, 1964, 38 per cent. of the heavy goods vehicles examined on the road or in their garages had some defect which justified the issue of a prohibition notice. 10 per cent. were regarded as sufficiently unroadworthy to necessitate making this notice immediately effective. These figures cannot fairly be related to the vehicle population as a whole because any vehicle which is clearly, or likely to be, defective is included in a roadside inspection.

Transport Drivers (Working Hours)

57.

asked the Minister of Transport what action he now proposes to take to end the danger to the public involved in the fact that transport drivers work considerably greater hours than those permitted under present regulations.

I cannot at present add to the answer on this subject given by my hon. Friend on 15th May to my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for The Hartlepools (Commander Kerans).

Transport Holding Company

59.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now rescind that part of his directions to the Transport Holding Company of 20th December, 1962, that restricts the manufacturing output of its subsidiaries, in the light of the company's experience that such interference results in unused capacity and higher unit costs, and in order that a publicly-owned enterprise may compete freely and on equal terms with private industry.

No. I have noted from their Annual Report for 1963 that the Transport Holding Company would hope to find some way of sharing the advantages of their relatively small bus works with others and of widening the commercial approach. I shall, of course, consider very carefully any proposals they may put to me.

Car Windows (Stickers)

64.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will introduce regulations to control the use of stickers on car windows, in view of the potential danger to safety caused by the resultant loss of driving vision.

No. The Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1963, already require the driver to have a clear view through the windows of a motor vehicle.

Rural Transport Survey

74.

asked the Minister of Transport what conclusions he has reached as a result of his consultations with local authorities and other bodies on the Rural Transport Survey results; and, in particular, in what way he proposes to help those households without private transport.

These consultations are still in progress. I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply of 22nd June to my hon. Friend the Member for Hexham (Mr. Speir).

Inland Waterways (Voluntary Workers)

84.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that, when youth organisations voluntarily work on clearing canals, waterways, and repairing locks, no insurance company is prepared to insure them against accident; and whether he will introduce legislation to empower him to work out a scheme to cover this contingency.

I am aware of a difficulty of this nature that has arisen in one case. The British Waterways Board tells me that it will be discussing this with the voluntary organisation concerned in the very near future.

Motorists (Sleepiness)

87.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that a motorist who is overcome by the approach of sleep commits an offence if he pulls into the side of any road and rests there, even if he causes no obstruction; and if he will introduce legislation to ensure that when a motorist takes such precautionary measures he does not thereby render himself liable to prosecution.

No. It would be an offence only if there were a specific prohibition of waiting or if obstruction or danger were caused. Lay-bys are provided expressly for the use of drivers who wish to rest.

Land, Leyton (Car Parking)

95.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now considered the possibility of the land opposite Leyton Underground Station being used as a parking place; and what action he is prepared to take to facilitate arrangements for that site being so used.

I understand that the London Transport Board is now reviewing this case.

Vehicle Examiners (Roadside Inspections)

102.

asked the Minister of Transport what publicity he is giving to the activities and the increase in the number of vehicle examiners and to their powers to deal with the nuisance of diesel fumes; and how many of such vehicle examiners will be operating in Essex.

My plans to increase roadside inspections have been widely publicised through the national and technical Press, broadcasting and the associations representing goods vehicle operators Up to three weeks' advance notice will be given to local newspapers and to operators' associations of the intended "blitz" operations.Most of Essex forms part of the Eastern Traffic Area where the present staff complement includes 22 vehicle examiners and 2 supervisory engineers. I cannot say how many will be working in the county at any particular time.

asked the Minister of Transport how many heavy lorries have been put out of action during the last ascertained period of 12 months or less after spot checks have been made by his engineers; and how many teams of engineers are available for these examinations.

Thirty-two thousand, eight hundred and forty-five prohibition notices were issued during the 12 months ending 31st March, 1964, of which just over 9,000 were made immediately effective. The teams used on spot checks vary in size, but the total number of vehicle examiners at present in post is 341. This number is to be increased to 410.

Commercial Vehicles (Construction And Use Regulations)

111.

asked the Minister of Transport what progress has now been made in the review of the construction and use regulations regarding commercial vehicles designed to allow them to be built to dimensions and weight more in accord with continental standards.

Revised proposals were circulated on 26th March, 1964. I have had comments from interested organisations and I propose to make some changes which will be embodied in the regulations now being prepared. These regulations, which I will lay before Parliament as soon as possible, will increase the permitted weights and dimensions of motor vehicles to the extent shown in the annexed table.I have had particular regard to road safety.Only vehicles constructed on or after 1st February, 1963, will be permitted to carry weights higher than the current maxima. Vehicles permitted to carry the higher weights will be required to comply with the braking efficiency requirements already prescribed for private cars and goods vehicles up to 30 cwt. (unladen). They will also have plates attached by their manufacturers showing the maximum weights which they are satisfied the vehicles can carry safely.The new maximum width of 2·5 metres (8 ft. 2½ ins.) is identical with that applicable in Europe. But considerations of traffic density and road safety have led me to fix shorter vehicle lengths. All dimensions are being expressed in metres so as to minimise difficulties that could arise from small discrepancies due to the use of different units of measurement.Because there are still many weak bridges in this country maximum gross weight limits for vehicles will be lower than those proposed on the Continent. The axles, too, will be further apart.At present the length or width of vehicles can, by the use of removable extensions, be increased beyond the statutory maxima. This practice will be prevented.Another safety measure is a limit to the overall length of a vehicle and trailer. This will be 18·0 metres (59 ft. 0¾ ins.),

SUMMARY OF THE EXISTING PERMITTED DIMENSIONS AND WEIGHTS OF VEHICLES AND OF THE CHANGES WHICH THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT INTENDS TO MAKE IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND USE REGULATIONS
ExistingChangesNotes
WIDTHS
1. Locomotives9' 0"2·75 m. (9' 0¼")(a) For heavy motor cars over 4 tons unladen.
2. Heavy motor cars.8' 0' (a) (b)2·5 m.(8' 2½")(c)(b) 8' 2½" for public service vehicles.
3. Other (including trailers).7'6"(b)(c) Trailers and semi-trailers may not exceed 7' 6" in width unless drawn by a locomotive, a motor tractor or a heavy motor car, or in the case of an articulated vehicle by a tractor portion which is a motor car exceeding 2 tons unladen weight; and may not project laterally on either side of the drawing vehicle by more than 12".
LENGTHS
4. Rigid vehicles30' (d)11·0m. (36'1")(d) 36' for public service vehicles.
5. Articulated vehicles.35' (e)13·0m.(42'7¾)(e)(e) No set limit if constructed and normally used to carry indivisible loads of exceptional length.
6. Trailers22'7·0m. (22' 11½")(e)
7. Vehicle and trailer.18·0m.(59'0¾")(e)
WEIGHTS
A. Axle weights
8. One-wheeled axles.4½ tons4½ tons (f)(f) 5 tons for one-wheeled axles and 10 tons for single two-wheeled axles, if wheels are fitted with twin tyres at not less than 12" centres or with wide tyres satisfying definition to be notified in the regulations.
9. Single two-wheeled axles.9 tons9 tons (f)
B. Vehicle Gross Weights
These will now be authorised on the basis of the number of axles instead of the number of wheels as heretofore. Spacing between the axles now determines the gross weight allowed which permits higher gross weights without endangering weak bridges, e.g.
ExistingChanges
10. Rigid vehicles—
(i)4 wheels—14 tons2 axles at least 12' apart—16 tons.
(ii)8 wheels—24 tons4 axles, if outer axles at least 26' apart—28 tons.
11. Articulated vehiclestrailer with 4 wheels—24 tonsVehicle with 4 axles—
(a) if outer axles at least 23' apart—26 tons.
(b) if outer axles at least 32' apart—30 tons.

Drinking And Driving (Publicity Campaign)

101.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans he has to increase the publicity over the Christmas and New Year period concerning the dangers of drinking and driving;

the limit most commonly applied on the Continent. Since this may entail an alteration to some existing vehicles used for the transport of cars, I propose to bring it into effect on 1st January, 1966.

and what is the estimated total cost of this publicity.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Weston-super-Mare (Mr. Webster) on 4th June, in which I announced my intention to launch a campaign to make people aware of the dangers of driving after drinking. The campaign will not be related specifically to Christmas or the New Year, although it will be given special emphasis during this period. The details of the campaign are still being worked out and the estimated cost is not yet available.

Accident, Crickley Hill

113.

asked the Minister of Transport what was revealed by the technical reports of his examiners on the lorry involved in a fatal accident at Crickley Hill, near Birdlip, Gloucestershire, on 27th March, 1964; what conclusions he came to as to the cause of the accident; and how long a period had elapsed since the vehicle in question was last examined by his staff.

Survey, Greater Manchester Area

asked the Minister of Transport (1) what stage the survey of transport problems in the Greater Manchester area has reached; what are the names of those conducting the survey, and the names and qualifications of the steering committee; what action has been taken to date; what area is to be covered; whom it is intended to consult; what organisations will be asked to give evidence and make proposals; whether Trafford Park is to be included in the survey; what industrial representatives will be consulted and asked to make proposals; and on what date it is expected that the result of the survey will be published;(2) if he approved the appointment of the Greater Manchester Survey Central Panel in connection with the transport survey; what are its terms of reference; and what plans it has for inviting a British firm of consultants to carry out its work.

The major local authorities in the South-East Lancashire, North-East Cheshire and North-West Derbyshire conurbation, the transport operators chiefly concerned, my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government and I have agreed that a comprehensive transport survey of the conurbation should be undertaken. A Steering Committee representing all these interests has been set up to exercise overall control of the work. They will be helped by an expert Technical Committee which will work very closely with the consultants who will carry out the survey. The Steering Committee is now considering the appointment of consultants.The precise area to be covered by the survey has not yet been settled but it will cover the continuously built-up area of the conurbation and will in addition take account of traffic flows into and out of the conurbation. Trafford Park will therefore be included.The survey will be directed to establishing facts about the present availability and use of transport and its relationship to land uses and other factors; to forecasting future demands for transport and to providing guidance on the planning of comprehensive transport facilities. The collection of data will involve approaches to industrial and other organisations.I cannot yet say when the survey will be completed.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will propose the appointment of a Greater Manchester Transport Steering Committee, to be composed of the chairmen and managers of the transport departments of the local authorities within the area where the survey is to be conducted, and direct it to introduce proposals for a co-ordinated and unified publicly-owned transport authority within the Greater Manchester area.

No. I do not believe that any study of possible changes in the organisation and ownership of public transport could usefully be undertaken until we have the information which the comprehensive transport survey will provide.

Roads

A1 (Newark)

19.

asked the Minister of Transport why road traffic on the A.1 at Newark was held up on Wednesday, 1st April, for from two to three hours.

The delay was caused by abnormal traffic conditions after the Easter holiday.

Speed Limits (Side Roads)

26.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will arrange for greater discrimination in the use of speed limit restriction signs in side roads where a speed in excess of the limit is obviously impossible.

Where there are permanent speed limits the law requires that signs should be provided. But it is always possible to reconsider the justification for the speed limit and if my hon. Friend will let we have particulars of any case I will try to help him.

Road Construction Equipment

39.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the need for bulk road-making equipment to reduce the cost of road construction, he will take steps to establish a publicly-owned construction undertaking so that the roads programme may be advanced with maximum speed and economy.

Arrangements are being made for a team of experts to visit the U.S.A. to inspect road construction equipment in use there; we can then consider how best to make any suitable equipment available for our own road programme.

Expenditure

46.

asked the Minister of Transport what Her Majesty's Government's expenditure on road building in England and Wales is to be in the next five year period; and what it has been been in the last five years.

The present road programme provides for the expenditure by Her Majesty's Government of about £800 million on new construction and major improvements of motorways, trunk roads and classified roads in England and Wales for the five years 1964–65–1968–69; in the five years 1959–60–1963–64 the corresponding expenditure was £382 million.

47.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the amount of Government expenditure on road building in 1950–51; and what it will be in 1964–65.

Total Government expenditure on new construction and major improvement of roads in Great Britain in 1950–51 was £4·4 million. The estimates for 1964–65 provide for the expenditure of £144·9 million.

66.

asked the Minister of Transport what has been the expenditure on the roads programme during the past five years in England, Scotland and Wales, respectively; and what is the projected expenditure during the next five years in each case.

In the five years 1959–60 to 1963–64, Exchequer expenditure on the road programme for new construction and major improvements of motorways, trunk roads and classified roads in England and Wales was £382 million and in Scotland £59 million. The present road programme for the five years 1964–65 to 1968–69 provides for Exchequer expenditure of about £800 million in England and Wales and £105 million in Scotland. The corresponding expenditure by local authorities on their share of the cost of classified road schemes for the 1959–60 to 1963–64 programme is estimated at £50 million in England and Wales and £7 million in Scotland and for the 1964–65 to 1968–69 programme at £120 million in England and Wales and £16 million in Scotland.There is no separate road programme for Wales and separate expenditure records are not maintained. Estimated Exchequer expenditure for the five years 1959–60 to 1963–64 on new construction and major improvement of roads in Wales is approximately £22 million, while the corresponding local authority expenditure is estimated as approximately £3 million. For the period 1964–65 to 1968–69 it is estimated that the comparable figures may be about £40 million and about £6 million.

A645 (West Riding)

49.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that the A.645 is an important access route for major export industries in the West Riding to the port of Hull; and if he will state his plans for its early improvement.

We intend to provide a new high-class dual carriageway road linking the West Riding with Hull. I shall be receiving in a few days the report of the consulting engineers I appointed to survey the area and to make recommendations. We will announce our plans as soon as we can.

A30 And A1 (Traffic)

50.

asked the Minister of Transport what traffic census has been taken on the A.30 between London and Camberley; and how this compared with a similar stretch of the A.1.

The latest comprehensive census taken in August, 1961, gave a peak daily flow of 26,000 vehicles on this stretch of A.30 compared with 39,000 vehicles on A.1 between London and Stevenage. The minimum daily flows were about 15,000 vehicles in each case.

Motorways (Speed Trials)

53.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps to ban speed trials on motorways by professional motor-racing organisations.

58.

asked the Minister of Transport what representations he has received on the subject of using the M.1 for the testing of cars intended for racing; and what action he has taken.

We have received no representations on this subject, although there has been a good deal of comment in the Press and elsewhere. My right hon. Friend met the President of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders and was given the assurances referred to in the reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Yardley (Mr. Cleaver) on 19th June. We do not consider that special legislation is necessary.

Speed Limit (Motorways)

54.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will take steps to limit the speed on motorways to 100 miles per hour.

60.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will introduce legislation to make it an offence to exceed 100 miles per hour on a public road or motorway.

No. We are keeping under review the possibility of a speed limit on motorways. If we do introduce one it will be lower than 100 miles per hour.

Croydon-Crawley Motorway

55.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now considered the consultant's report on the proposed route of the Croydon-Crawley motorway; and what the report recommends.

The report is being considered, but I have nothing to add to what I told my hon. Friend when replying to the Adjournment debate on 20th April.

Lay-Bys (Public Conveniences)

62 and 63.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) in view of the increasing use by holidaymakers by car and motor coach of the A.2 trunk road from London to the south-east resorts and Channel ports, what has been the outcome of his consideration of the problem of the abuse of lay-bys so as to remedy the present hazards to health during the warm weather and the holiday season;(2) if, in the consideration he is giving to the provision of elementary sanitary facilities in lay-bys, he will take account of the fact that at 10 a.m. on Saturday, 6th June, 18 motor coaches and many private cars were parked within the 200–300-yards length of the tree- and bush-lined grass verge on the A.2 trunk road, in the vicinity of the Laughing Water Restaurant, a part much used by holiday-makers.

94.

asked the Minister of Transport what has been the result of his consideration of the abuse of lay-bys, and the provision of public conveniences on trunk roads.

I recognise the seriousness of this problem which is a difficult one. It raises issues which go beyond the strict scope of highway responsibilities. We have had a useful report from the Automobile Association about conditions along A.1 and from the County Councils' Association a comprehensive survey of the position on trunk roads in rural areas. We are studying their suggestions and will announce our conclusions as we can.

Bristol

67.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the total sum paid in grants to the city of Bristol for new or improved roads in each of the years 1957 to 1963; and what further sums have been authorised.

The following is the information:

Financial yearGrant payments £
1957–5860,948
1958–59195,184
1959–6091,897
1960–61133,595
1961–62292,567
1962–63621,738
1963–641,039,418
Total2,435,347
Sums already authorised for the current financial year amount to about £710,000.

A19 (Peterlee)

68.

asked the Minister of Transport what roads will be provided linking the A.19 road with the new town of Peterlee.

No new roads giving Peterlee access to the A.19 trunk road are contemplated. My divisional road engineer is discussing with the new town corporation the future layout of the junctions of the existing access roads with the trunk road when it is improved.

69.

asked the Minister of Transport in what year the development of the A.19 road will be completed.

The schemes for the improvement of A.19 will be put in hand progressively over the next five years. They should all be completed within seven or eight years.

Inner London Motorways

78.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans he has for future motorways through inner London areas; what route he proposes within London for the Dover radial extension; and whether he contemplates the extension across the Thames of the west cross route from Holland Park Avenue to the Embankment.

The L.C.C. as highway improvement authority are primarily responsible for considering the need for new roads in the inner London area. An overall plan for highways will be dependent on the full working out of the London Traffic Survey. Meanwhile the L.C.C. are with my encouragement investigating a route for the Dover Radial Extension that would run along the line of the railway between Falcon-wood and Kidbrooke. They have also, with my agreement, appointed consultants for a feasibility study of a possible extension of the West Cross Route south of the Thames.

Crane Accident, North Circular Road (Inquiry)

80.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will now hold a public inquiry into the collapse of a crane on the North Circular Road on 20th June.

83.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will investigate as early as possible, and institute a public inquiry into, the accident at Hendon on Saturday, 20th June, which wrecked a motor coach travelling from Feltham, and killed and injured a number of residents of that area.

100.

asked the Minister of Transport whether the inquiry which he proposes to set up in connection with the accident caused by the collapse of a crane on the North Circular Road on 20th June will be held in public or in private; and whether he will publish the report in full.

I would refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Members to the reply given on Monday, 29th June, by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour to my hon. Friend the Member for Hendon, South (Sir H. Lucas-Tooth).

Road Works (Safety Precautions)

81.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will undertake a full review of safety precautions relating to road works on the North Circular Road and on all road schemes for which he is responsible.

I would refer the hon. Member to the replies given by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour to Questions on 29th and 30th June about the Brent Cross accident. I have drawn the advice referred to in the second reply to the attention of highway authorities generally and the local authorities and consulting engineers who act as my agents for work on trunk roads. More generally, I think we must await the outcome of the inquiry which my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour has directed. But, in the meantime, I am considering whether there are any further immediate steps that should be taken.

Christchurch Bypass (Burton-Stony Lane Junction)

85.

asked the Minister of Transport what action he proposes to take to prevent further loss of life at the Burton and Stony Lane junction on the Christchurch bypass.

The Christchurch Borough Council is the highway authority for this road. I understand it has recently agreed in principle on certain safety measures. I am ready to consider grant on approved proposals when these are put to me.

School Entrances (Car Parking)

89.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps to prevent cars parking within school entrance carriageway markings.

It is open to the competent authority to make a prohibitory order if carriageway markings alone are not observed. If my hon. Friend will let me have particulars of any such case in the London Traffic Area, where I am the traffic authority, I will look into it.

Three-Lane Roads

90.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps, in view of the steady growth of traffic, to substitute four-lane roads in all cases where three-lane roads have been contemplated or approved.

No. Three-lane roads are a reasonably safe and economical form of construction within the traffic capacity for which they are designed. In deciding the design standard for a new road, I take into account the expected growth of traffic over the next twenty years.In practice there is little scope for constructing three-lane trunk roads. Only 5¼ further miles are planned in the next four years. Over the same period we plan to convert 50 miles of three-lane road to dual carriageway.

Road Junction, Willesden (Traflic Signals)

92.

asked the Minister of Transport when he will make a decision concerning traffic signals at the junction of Brentfield and Knatchbull Road, N.W.10, in reply to the representation made on behalf of elderly constituents by the hon. Member for Willesden, West, on 6th December, 1963.

I agree in principle that there should be traffic signals at this junction, but a final decision on the arrangements to be made must await the conclusion of discussions with the county and borough councils and the police.These are taking some time because they must cover other measures which are likely to be necessary if signal control here is to be effective, for example, alterations in road layout, signalling of the adjacent junction with Craven Park Road and, perhaps, local one-way traffic working.

Whipps Cross, Leyton

93.

asked the Minister of Transport when it is intended to reconstruct and re-route the approaching roads to Whipps Cross, Leyton; how long it is estimated this will take; and what extent traffic in cars and heavy vehicles has increased at Whipps Cross during the past five years.

The borough councils of Leyton and Walthamstow, as the highway authorities, are considering improvements to these roads. Until firm proposals are put to me, I cannot say when the work will be started or how long it will take. The traffic figures requested are not available, but traffic on Lea Bridge Road increased by 58 per cent. between 1954 and 1963.

South-East Lancashire And North-East Cheshire

96.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the annual grant allocation for the South-East Lancashire and North-East Cheshire area phased programme of road works for each of the years 1965 to 1969, indicating the percentage differential between the annual allocation and the annual estimated cost of schemes for these years within that programme.

The long-term programme of classified road works proposed by the local highway authorities for the South-East Lancashire and North-East Cheshire area is to be reviewed in the light of the results of the comprehensive transport survey which they are carrying out. In the meantime I have approved in principle for grant authorisation a short-term programme consisting of the whole of the schemes proposed by the local highway authorities for the first three years of their programme, i.e. up to and including 1965–66. My divisional road engineer is now discussing with them the further schemes which might be authorised for grant in an extension of this short-term programme for a further two years.

HIGHWAY WORKS CONTRACTS OF OVER £1 MILLION LET BY MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT DURING THE YEAR ENDED 30TH JUNE, 1964
Item No.Name of FirmNumber of invitations to tender for Ministry contracts let during yearValue of all contracts over £1m. on which engagedRemarks
(a)(b)
(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)
£m.
1C. Bryant & Sons Ltd.1
2The Cementation Co. Ltd.51·31
3Christiani & Nielsen Ltd.5See also items 40 and 41.
4Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Co. Ltd.74·48See also item 49.
5Richard Costain (Civil Engineering) Ltd.124·25See also item 47.
6Martin Cowley Ltd.33·15
7Cubar Construction Co. Ltd.11·68
8The Demolition & Construction Co. Ltd.2
9R. M. Douglas Construction Ltd.84·26
10Leonard Fairclough Ltd.65·06See also item 46.
11A. E. Farr Ltd.93·33
12Fitzpatrick & Son (Contractors) Ltd.173·75
13W. & C. French Ltd.44·97
14M. J. Gleeson (Contractors) Ltd.81·61
15Hadsphaltic Construction Co. Ltd.5
16Harbour & General Works Ltd.1
17Higgs & Hill Ltd.2See also item 47.
18Holland & Hannen & Cubitts (Civil Engineering) Ltd.41·30See also items 43, 44 and 48.
19John Howard & Co. Ltd.2
20Kier Ltd.1See also items 41, 42 and 43.
21John Laing Construction Ltd.105·55See also item 44.
22Lehane, McKenzie & Shand Ltd.3See also item 40.

New Roads (Tenders)

107.

asked the Minister of Transport how many tenders for over £1 million for new roads have been invited by his Department during the past year; how many different contractors have been invited to tender; if he will give their names; how many times each firm has been invited to tender; and what is the total value of orders being carried out by each firm alone, or in consortium, for his department or other bodies receiving a grant-in-aid from his Department.

Following the invitation of tenders, the Ministry let 29 contracts of over £1 million during the year ended 30th June, 1964. The reply to the other parts of the Question consists of the following table of names and figures:

Item No.Name of FirmNumber of invitations to tender for Ministry contracts let during yearValue of all contracts over £1m. on which engagedRemarks
(a)(b)
(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)
£m.
23Peter Lind & Co. Ltd.1
24Sir Alfred McAlpine & Sons Ltd.3See also item 46.
25Sir Robert McAlpine & Sons Ltd.69·37
26Robert McGregor & Sons Ltd.43·93
27Marples, Ridgway & Partners Ltd.115·13See also items 41 and 45.
28J. Miller & Partners (Hayes) Ltd.3
29A. Monk & Co. Ltd.1411·36
30John Mowlem & Co. Ltd.31·80See also item 45.
31William Old Ltd.1
32Sir Lindsay Parkinson & Co. Ltd.139·82
33Pauling Co. Ltd.1
34Reed and Mallik Ltd.3
35Southern Counties Construction Co. Ltd.11·20
36Tarmac Civil Engineering Ltd.165·36
37Taylor Woodrow Construction Ltd.4
38Turriff Construction Corporation Ltd.71·41
39George Wimpey & Co. Ltd.1411·93
Companies in Consortium
40Christiani & Nielsen Ltd. with Lehane, McKenzie & Shand.55·88
41Kier Ltd. with Christiani & Nielsen Ltd. and Marples Ridgway & Partners Ltd.14·98
42Kier Ltd. with Sydney Green & Sons (Contractors) Ltd.4For Sydney Green & Sons (Contractors) Ltd. see also items 43 and 48.
43Sydney Green & Sons (Contractors) Ltd. with Holland & Hannen & Cubitts (Civil Engineering) Ltd. and Kier Ltd.14·75
44Holland & Hannen & Cubitts (Civil Engineering) Ltd. with John Laing Construction Ltd.3
45Marples, Ridgway & Partners Ltd. with John Mowlem & Co. Ltd.1
46Sir Alfred McAlpine & Sons Ltd. with Leonard Fairclough Ltd.711·68
47Richard Costain (Civil Engineering) Ltd. with Higgs & Hill Ltd.6·36
48Holland & Hannen & Cubitts (Civil Engineering) Ltd. with Sydney Green & Sons (Contractors) Ltd.3·25
49Associated Bridge Builders (a consortium of:—Sir William Arrol & Co. Ltd; Cleveland Bridge & Engineering Ltd.; Dorman Long (Bridge Engineering) Ltd.6·06
TOTAL243£148·97
million
Notes
(a) Invitations to tender are issued only after a preliminary enquiry has established that the firm wishes to tender.
(b) Includes contracts let before the period to which the table relates and covers Ministry contracts and contracts for schemes on which grant is paid to local highway authority. The figures are the tender sums for the contracts in question.

A50 (North Staffordshire)

98.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that it is now 30 years since major improvements in the important east-west traffic route in North Staffordshire between Stoke-on-Trent and Uttoxeter, the A.50, were approved, and that a recent seven day count indicated that the average daily traffic figure at Draycott in January, 1964 of 5,519 vehicles had risen to 6,400, an increase of 881 vehicles in six months; and, in view of this and the fact that this traffic meets a level crossing with hand-operated gates, where between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. 70 trains a day use the line, if he will now take immediate action to improve the A.50, as each delay in the implementation of this work means an increased burden of costs.

I am aware of traffic conditions on the A.50 generally, but they are not such as to justify my diverting resources required for other urgent works.

Cycle Tracks

99.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, as a means of assisting road safety, he will, for the specific roads for which he has authority, make the necessary orders to compel pedal cyclists to use cycle tracks on roads where these are provided.

Yes, where I think this desirable in the interests of safety and where the cycle tracks are adequate.

Bypass, Wall, Staffordshire

108.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will reconsider the plans for the bypass at Wall, Staffordshire, so as to provide for a dual carriageway.

No. The traffic expected to use the bypass will not justify the provision of dual carriageways yet, although it is designed for a second carriageway when traffic calls for it.

London-Basingstoke Motorway

106.

asked the Minister of Transport when he will be in a position to publish his draft scheme in regard to the London-Basingstoke motorway.

Motorway Warning System

asked the Minister of Transport why he decided that the first motorway warning system in this country should be installed on 26 miles of the M.5 Bristol-Birmingham motorway; on what dates he received representations from the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South that it should be introduced on the Stretford-Eccles-Worsley portion of the M.6; by what factors involving road safety he is guided in deciding on what motorways a warning system should be introduced; on what date and where the system will first be introduced; and on what date it will be introduced on the M.6.

It was decided to use M.5 for the experiment with the motorway warning system because spare circuits were available in the emergency telephone cable system of M.5 and were not available on M.1. It was also an advantage that the whole of the length of M.5 came within the jurisdiction of one police force.The hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South (Mr. Ellis Smith) asked a Question on 9th May, 1962, about the need for an experimental warning system on the Stretford-Eccles motorway. The experiment on M.5 should start in September, but until the results have been assessed I cannot say what the criteria should be for any extension of the system to other motorways or when it could take place.

Accidents

asked the Minister of Transport in how many cases of road accidents in England and Wales in each of the last three years the person held responsible for the accident was alone in the vehicle; and in how many cases he was accompanied by one or more passengers.

asked the Minister of Transport how many fatal accidents occurred in motorways during Whitsun weekend; and to what extent, in deciding on expenditure on motorways, he takes into account the reduced risk of accidents on them.

There was one fatal accident on motorways during the Whitsun weekend. The expected reduction in accidents is one of several factors taken into account in settling the composition of the road programme including the contruction of motorways.

Crash Barriers

asked the Minister of Transport what types of barriers or safety fences have been installed experimentally on the central reservations of motorways; and how long it is proposed to continue the tests before their effect on accidents is assessed.

Two nine-mile lengths of double steel rail safety fence are being erected on M.1 to test the value of crash barriers. Observations will begin as soon as possible, but it will be some time before significant results are obtained.

Road Research Laboratory (Report)

asked the Minister of Transport if he has received the report of the Road Research Laboratory on the effect upon road safety of the parking of vehicles after dark without lights; and if he will now amend the present regulations to give effect to the recommendation of the Royal Commission on the Police.

The Road Research Laboratory Report was forwarded to me yesterday. I now need time to study it.

Trunk Roads (Removal And Re-Erection Of Bus Shelters)

asked the Minister of Transport what instructions he gives to his agents on the rebuilding of bus shelters where these have to be removed on account of trunk road improvements.

The provision of a bus shelter on a trunk road needs my consent as highway authority. Where consent is given, it is conditional upon the provider of the bus shelter accepting responsibility for its removal and re-erection in the circumstances referred to. My agent authorities are instructed accordingly.

Parked Vehicles (Obstruction)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the danger and obstruction to traffic caused by thoughtlessly parked vehicles on trunk roads in the countryside; and whether he will take action to remedy the situation this summer.

Yes. It is an offence ranking for disqualification to leave a vehicle in a dangerous position, and paragraph 54 of the Highway Code gives advice about stopping and parking. On trunk roads where sufficient lay-bys and hardstandings can be provided I shall continue to create clearways as the necessary improvements are completed.

A5 Route

asked the Minister of Transport for what reason he has not accepted the need for the immediate reconstruction of those parts of A.5 from Fazeley northwards through Staffordshire which are not dual carriageways, in view of the recommendation of the Staffordshire County Council and the increasing traffic on the A.5 between M.1 and M.6.

With many other urgent works requiring the resources available, I do not consider wholesale reconstruction of this route is justified at this time. This is only one of several routes between M.1 and M.6 and its importance will be diminished when the Midland Link Motorway is built. Improvements to the most heavily trafficked lengths are in the programme and works should start later this year.

Railways

Blyth, Tyne, Newbiggin, Ashington Line

35.

asked the Minister of Transport what consideration he has given to the Report of the Transport Users' Consultative Committee on the inquiry held in Whitley Bay on 19th March regarding the proposed closure of the Blyth and Tyne line; and whether he will make a statement.

38.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now considered the report on the Transport Users' Consultative Committee's inquiry of 19th March into the proposed closures of the railway services in the Newbiggin, Ashington, and Blyth areas of Northumberland; and whether he will make a statement.

I am carefully considering these proposals in the light of the T.U.C.C.'s report on hardship, and I am in consultation with my colleagues on the industrial and planning aspects. I am not yet in a position to reach my decision.

Branch Lines (Closure)

45.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give a general direction to the British Railways Board, in the public interest, that no increases in cheap fares or withdrawal of cheap fares shall take place on lines where proposals of closure have been issued until such time as he has considered the proposal.

No. This is a matter which must be left to the Board's commercial judgment.

Swindon-Gloucester Line

61.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will reject the Railways Board's proposal to withdraw passenger services from intermediate stations, including the newly-built Purton Station, between Swindon and Gloucester, in view of the plans for Swindon set out in the South-East Regional Study.

I have not yet completed my consideration of the report of the Transport Users Consultative Committee on hardship to users and of the other effects of the proposal.

Lichfield And Tamworth (Rail Closures)

65.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, pending the completion of the comprehensive west Midlands traffic survey, he will give an assurance that he will not authorise any closures of stations in the overspill receiving area of the Lichfield and Tamworth constituency.

Scotland (Rail Closures)

71.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the progress made to date on the implementation in Scotland of the Beeching proposals on rail closures.

The Railways Board has now given notice under Section 56 of the Transport Act, 1962, of all but one of the 51 proposals to close passenger services in Scotland listed in "The Reshaping of British Railways". The Transport Users Consultative Committee has reported on 31 of these proposals. I have given my consent to closure in 14 cases and refused it in one. In addition, I have refused consent to the withdrawal of the service as a whole on the lines from Inverness to Kyle and to Wick and Thurso. I shall announce as soon as possible my decisions on the proposals now before me, including the intermediate stations on the Inverness lines.

Glasgow-Gourock Line

72.

asked the Minister of Transport what reply he has given to recent representations he received on the West of Scotland transport study, being undertaken by Her Majesty's Government and local authorities, jointly, and which involves the proposed electrification of the Glasgow-Gourock railway.

I have sent the hon. Member a copy of the reply sent on my behalf. Briefly, the local authorities have been assured that I should be prepared to study proposals for capital investment on the Glasgow-Gourock line without necessarily waiting for the results of the Glasgow transport survey.

Goole-Selby Line

73.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will reconsider his decision to close the Goole-Selby rail way fine, in view of Dr. Beeching's tour of the line on 17th June and the concern expressed by local people.

No. My decision to consent to the Railways Board's closure proposal was given after the fullest consideration of representations from users and of the effects that closure could have.

Birmingham-Dudley Line

75.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will withdraw his consent to the proposals of the British Railways Board to discontinue railway passenger services between Birmingham and Dudley, pending the completion of the West Midlands Traffic Survey.

109 and 110.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) whether he will withdraw his consent to the closure of the Birmingham Snow Hill-Dudley railway line, pending the completion of the West Midlands Traffic Survey;(2) Whether he will withdraw his consent to the closure of the Dudley-Old Hill and Walsall and Dudley railway lines.

No. I gave my consent to the closure of the passenger services between Swan Village and Dudley and on other two lines on 30th April. Before doing so I satisfied myself that the train services from Swan Village, Dudley Port and Old Hill, in conjunction with the bus services, provided adequate alternatives for travel to Birmingham. I therefore considered the sure justified irrespective of the results of the survey. I was also satisfied that, with certain additional bus services, the Walsall-Dudley passenger services could be closed.But, to safeguard the future, I made it a condition to all three consents that the Board must notify me of any intention to dispose of the land at present occupied by the lines in question.

Passenger Tickets (Cheaper Routes)

82.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will issue a general direction, in the public interest, to British Railways to withdraw the rule recently issued that no intending passengers must be informed of any alternative cheaper way of buying tickets than that quoted at railway ticket guichets for direct fares, in view of the letter sent him by the hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion.

No. Matters of the kind to which my hon. Friend refers are for the British Railways Board, and I have sent his letter to them.

Glasgow-Kirkintilloch Line

104.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now reached a decision on the future of the Glasgow-Kirkintilloch railway line; and if he will make a statement.

Vandalism

112.

asked the Minister of Transport how much it has cost British Railways to repair damage to rolling stock and track caused by acts of vandalism since nationalisation.

I am told by the British Railways Board that this information is not available for years before 1963. For 1963, I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Dunfermline, Burghs (Dr. A. Thompson) on Friday, 15th May.

Concessionary Fares

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the British Railways Board to provide concessionary railway fares for whole families travelling by train.

Shipping

Public Inquiries (Fishery Vessel Casualties)

44.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the period of time normally required by his Department to institute a public inquiry into the loss of a British fishing vessel on the high seas after he has taken the decision that such an inquiry shall take place.

Since the beginning of 1959 there have been 23 public formal investigations into casualties to British fishing vessels. The average time between the decision to order an investigation and the hearing has been just under four months. Seven of these were losses on the high seas, and the average time in these cases was just under five months.

United States Federal Maritime Commission

91.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will now state the outcome of the consideration by the European and Japanese Governments of the proposals recently made by the United States Federal Maritime Commission to meet the objections to their original demand in respect of contracts between shipping companies and shippers.

These matters are now the subject of further discussion with the Americans at Government level.

Nuclear Propulsion

88.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now make a statement on the construction of a British nuclear propelled ship.

Blackwater And Crouch Estuaries (Navigation Aids)

97.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will have discussions with the Elder Brethren of Trinity House in order to ensure that there are adequate lights and navigational guides in the area of the Blackwater and Crouch estuaries.

I am not aware that the aids provided for general navigation in this area by the Trinity House are other than adequate, but if my hon. Friend has any specific proposal in mind I shall be glad to consider it.

Foreign Built Merchant Ships (Registration In The United Kingdom)

103.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give the tonnage of merchant shipping being built abroad for registration in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, at the latest available date.

I understand that at the end of March, 1964, about 275,000 gross tons were under construction in foreign shipyards for registration in the United Kingdom.

New Cunarder

105.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a statement on the progress being made regarding the building of the new Cunarder.

Cunard is now working on the specifications and hope to go out to tender in the early autumn. It has already sent out to interested builders preliminary information on the requirements for machinery.

Aberdeen Harbour Docks

asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the fact that both of Aberdeen's two floating docks are old, what applications Aberdeen Harbour Board have made for capital sanction in order to establish a new pontoon dock in Aberdeen Harbour and so to enable Aberdeen to discharge fully its increasing trade and business; what expert study has been made of these needs; what assistance Her Majesty's Government will now give Aberdeen Harbour Board; and when such aid will be available.

I would refer the hon. and learned Member to the answer my hon. and gallant Friend gave him today.

Ministry Of Aviation

Phantom Aircraft (Evaluation)

114.

asked the Minister of Aviation whether he will now report on the evaluation studies of the Phantom aircraft.

Evaluation of the Phantom aircraft by my Department is continuing and tests are proceeding in the United States of modifications necessary for its operation from R.N. carriers. I am not yet in a position to make a definite assessment.

Middleton St George Airport

115.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will make a statement about the future of Middleton St. George Airport.

Control of Middleton St. George has been transferred from the Ministry of Defence to the Ministry of Aviation pending sale to the local authorities. We hope to ensure that civil operations are not interrupted and that new services can begin as planned.An additional grant of £150,000 has recently been promised to assist development of air communications in the North-East region, on condition that this aerodrome and Woolsington (Newcastle) are run jointly by a single consortium of local authorities.

Concord (Extramural Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Aviation what is the estimated sum required for the Supersonic Transport Project in the year 1964–65; and what is the cumulative total which it is estimated will have been required by the end of the year 1964–65, for this project.

The estimated sum required by the Ministry for extramural expenditure on the British share of development of the Concord in the financial year 1964–65 is £11 million. The cumulative total of the Ministry's extramural expenditure from 29th November, 1962, the date of signature of the Anglo-French Agreement, to the end of the financial year 1964–65 is estimated at £15·2 million.

Tsr2

asked the Minister of Aviation if he can now state the date on which it is intended that the TSR2 will first carry out flight trials of its contour-following equipment.

No, but extensive trials of the TSR2 contour following equipment have already taken place in other aircraft.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he can now state the date on which it is intended that the TSR2 should enter squadron service.

The TSR2 should enter service in about three years' time; it is not the practice to disclose precise dates.

Airports, Wales (Expenditure On Facilities)

asked the Minister of Aviation whether he is aware that, during the past five years, expenditure from funds made available by his Department and devoted to capital facilities at civil airports in England has been 90 times as great as in Wales, that similar expenditure in Scotland in the same period was nearly 27 times as great as in Wales, and that during the post-war period prior to 1959 expenditure on such facilities in Wales was disproportionately small; and if he will authorise expenditure to provide Wales with airport facilities commensurate with its growing economic and industrial importance.

I am aware that the expenditure in England and Scotland has exceeded that in Wales to the extent stated, but expenditure in England and Scotland has been predominantly on facilities at the main international airports which serve the United Kingdom as a whole. Expenditure at Rhoose, though much less, has been sufficient to meet the needs of the traffic.

Royal Navy

Compassionate Discharge (Purchase)

116.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what considerations govern the grant of permission to purchase a compassionate discharge to a naval rating who signed on for the long-service engagement while under 21 years of age.

A naval rating, whatever the engagement he is serving on and whatever his age on entry, may purchase his compassionate discharge if his dependants are suffering severe hardship for which his release is the only remedy.But as an exception, junior ratings who are not yet 17½ years of age and who are still under training in the initial training establishments may be discharged by purchase if it is clear that they are genuinely unhappy in their choice of career and unlikely ever to settle down in the Royal Navy.

117.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence on what grounds he refused a compassionate discharge by purchase to radio operator J. Hardy.

I have written to my hon. Friend explaining that it was not possible to grant Radio Operator Hardy's application for compassionate discharge by purchase, as Hardy's circumstances did not meet the conditions described in my reply to my hon. Friend's previous Question today.

Royal Air Force

Air Patrols, Bahamas

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the frequency of British air patrols over the waters surrounding the Bahamas group; and what types of aircraft are deployed thereon.

Now that other effective arrangements have been made, air patrols by the Royal Air Force have been withdrawn from this area.

Ministry Of Defence

Defence Expenditure (Increase)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the reason for the 61 per cent. rise in the annual out-turn of defence expenditure from 1951 to 1963–64 at current prices, in view of the fact that there was a 25 per cent. reduction over the same period at constant prices; and whether he will make a statement.

The reduction at constant prices was 5 per cent., not 25 per cent., and the increase in cash terms (current prices) was due to changes in the value of money.

Scotland

Roads, East Aberdeenshire (Expenditure)

118.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the expenditure on roads in East Aberdeenshire over the last five years.

Separate figures for East Aberdeenshire are not available, but total

Certificated Teachers EmployedUncertificated Teachers employed
TotalMarried WomenRetired re-employed teachers aged 70 and over
October—
196036,2607,7232432,107
196136,7748,0422842,269
196237,1408,4932422,346
196337,7948,9232192,425

124.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what maintenance grants are paid to men and women admitted to training under the Special Recruitment Scheme for Teachers; and what grants are payable to dependants of those so recruited.

Maintenance grants are payable as follows for a full year:

£
Unmarried student living with parents240
Unmarried student living in lodgings, or married student300
Maintenance of wife175
Maintenance of first child60
Maintenance of second child40
Maintenance of subsequent children35
each

expenditure on roads in Aberdeenshire from 1958 to 1963 was about £4,356,000: of this, £955,000 was spent on trunk roads and £3,401,000 on classified roads.

119.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the projected expenditure on the roads programme in East Aberdeenshire over the next five years.

Detailed programmes for the area have not yet been drawn up by the county council or my Department.

Teachers

122.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the number of teachers employed whole-time in public and grant-aided schools in Scotland, giving the number of certificated, uncertificated, married women, and the number of retired teachers who returned to teaching for the years 1960, 1961, 1962 and 1963, respectively.

Following is the information:Applicants over 25 may qualify for a mature student's allowance of up to £75 per year.The grant may be less if the applicant or his dependants have income from other sources.

Divorce Petitions

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the number of defended and undefended divorce petitions from each county and city in Scotland, which were dealt with in the Court of Session, Edinburgh, during 1963.

I regret that this information is not available and could not readily be obtained.

Road Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in how many cases of road accidents in Scotland in each of the last three years the person held responsible for the accident was alone in the vehicle; and in how many cases he was accompanied by one or more passengers.

DEATHS FROM CANCER—1953 TO 1962
19531954
COUNTIES AND CITIESCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancerCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancer
M.F.M.F.M.F.M.F.
Aberdeen City6930152283
Aberdeen County2021526229
Angus2317921188
Dundee8133673384
Argyll2412128118
Ayr76506111526
Banff13831079
Berwick154951
Bute743937
Caithness229241
Clackmannan768666
Dumfries2015620155
Dunbarton5426864283
East Lothian13861473
Fife8149488480
Inverness1715920152
Kincardine447635
Kirkcudbright452758
Lanark143759155810
Glasgow5511,7715351,780
Midlothian2114924155
Edinburgh256889215933
Moray969778
Nairn312317
Orkney14251
Peebles521323
Perth and Kinross3323844270
Renfrew112495133547
Ross and Cromarty13828128
Roxburgh13741281
Selkirk6241044
Stirling6127854296
Sutherland223125
West Lothian2213228119
Wigtown3441053
Zetland353445
TOTAL—SCOTLAND1,4683013,8424,5141,5172953,9614,732

Deaths From Cancer, 1953–62

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give a breakdown by cities and counties of the figures published in the 1963 Report of Health and Welfare Services in Scotland, showing the deaths by cancer of the lung and all other forms of cancer between the years 1953 and 1962, inclusive.

The following is the information requested. Separate figures of males and females are available only from 1961.

19551956
COUNTIES AND CITIESCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancerCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancer
M.F.M.F.M.F.M.F.
Aberdeen City8332574313
Aberdeen County1022829241
Angus2118222197
Dundee8235681336
Argyll1910215154
Ayr67487108510
Banff7811398
Berwick347952
Bute1131445
Caithness347248
Clackmannan8551750
Dumfries2015829140
Dunbarton5225973268
East Lothian18981587
Fife7851886486
Inverness2614525179
Kincardine852837
Kirkcudbright957560
Lanark154802157812
Glasgow5911,8056341,812
Midlothian3218739162
Edinburgh202978248947
Moray1176477
Nairn12614
Orkney732650
Peebles130434
Perth and Kinross4126535236
Renfrew117583121574
Ross and Cromarty1010315138
Roxburgh91011376
Selkirk847538
Stirling5829144259
Sutherland115322
West Lothian2012132122
Wigtown759356
Zetland734541
TOTAL—SCOTLAND1,5152873,9474,8361,6773063,9144,857

19571958
COUNTIES AND CITIESCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancerCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancer
M.F.M.F.M.F.M.F.
Aberdeen City8533496335
Aberdeen County3423428243
Angus2817038180
Dundee9236497343
Argyll1713525131
Ayr103501101543
Banff16871792
Berwick1039356
Bute1130748
Caithness430236
Clackmannan14721363
Dumfries2814828134
Dunbarton7327868263
East Lothian16712784
Fife104472106469
Inverness1614820150
Kincardine753351
Kirkcudbright648757
Lanark153779176755
Glasgow6171,8346631,770
Midlothian3718744155
Edinburgh272939279880
Moray9751366
Nairn119422
Orkney323237
Peebles530318
Perth and Kinross4124148278
Renfrew146556164546
Ross and Cromarty612121101
Roxburgh12991191
Selkirk743754
Stirling6427359319
Sutherland26125
West Lothian3211432121
Wigtown1053952
Zetland240437
TOTAL—SCOTLAND1,7773043,8554,8111,8873393,9344,671

19591960
COUNTIES AND CITIESCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancerCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancer
M.F.M.F.M.F.M.F.
Aberdeen City9134292310
Aberdeen County63320325249
Angus4218541196
Dundee10336199337
Argyll2413021113
Ayr142534123562
Banff18771194
Berwick841644
Bute1056838
Caithness338739
Clackmannan16561355
Dumfries2715842128
Dunbarton8628796296
East Lothian18942092
Fife112479106463
Inverness1313431153
Kincardine636547
Kirkcudbright7651255
Lanark218795198811
Glasgow6661,7777341,734
Midlothian4517043142
Edinburgh283911295887
Moray10811670
Nairn214417
Orkney241335
Peebles3301025
Perth and Kinross5823252280
Renfrew165536151551
Ross and Cromarty1111919109
Roxburgh161021581
Selkirk445638
Stirling5530874299
Sutherland235232
West Lothian1914731145
Wigtown945849
Zetland338335
TOTAL—SCOTLAND1,9583723,9204,7822,0783443,7374,874

19611962
COUNTIES AND CITIESCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancerCancer of the LungAll other forms of cancer
M.F.M.F.M.F.M.F.
Aberdeen City86151521879315134171
Aberdeen County24693124246116141
Angus305911013077894
Dundee811712721910327141222
Argyll18358791815069
Ayr1161422034911517250312
Banff1024649643257
Berwick7252261722
Bute91726811631
Caithness62327411335
Clackmannan12225362312029
Dumfries28374772856367
Dunbarton61131211678411133147
East Lothian15538491344347
Fife101112372799313238286
Inverness29578672057592
Kincardine102535431829
Kirkcudbright8120281712126
Lanark2172937742723028374435
Glasgow596123779919650129797943
Midlothian38369993139183
Edinburgh2654638953123939389578
Moray1442636165042
Nairn218741137
Orkney2231361920
Peebles3918431016
Perth and Kinross47131141425712116151
Renfrew1522426132915117245322
Ross and Cromarty16259661417073
Roxburgh16241561723943
Selkirk10218171021822
Stirling5851371557116136191
Sutherland3214811119
West Lothian17370681756272
Wigtown816221312532
Zetland11101921149
TOTAL—SCOTLAND2,1163623,8904,8532,2223823,9374,935

Hospital Accommodation

120.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions his Department has had with the Western Regional Hospital Board regarding hospital accommodation in Paisley; and what was the outcome of the discussion.

The possibility of adding a new maternity unit for Paisley to the Regional Board's building programme is under discussion; and my Department is at present awaiting the Regional Board's views on the priority of this scheme among a number it has under consideration.

121.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the average length of time of occupation of maternity beds for each confinement in the maternity hospitals in Paisley and District Hospital Board area during 1963.

The average length of stay for all patients in the one maternity hospital in the area, including those admitted for ante-natal treatment, was just under eight days. I am afraid separate figures are not available for mothers who were confined in the hospital.

125.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of geriatric beds per thousand of the population for the area of each regional hospital board, at the latest convenient date.

At 30th September, 1963, the number of available geriatric beds in each regional hospital board area was as follows:—

Regional Hospital BoardNo. of beds per 1,000 of the population
Northern1·5
North-eastern1·9
Eastern2·1
South-eastern1·1
Western1·4

New Towns (Houses)

123.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses were completed by the four new towns last year; and to what extent the number completed matched the targets set by the development corporations.

In the year to 31st March, 1964, the Scottish New Towns completed 2,153 houses, compared with a total target figure of 2,200.

School Places (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the average cost of a school place in a new school in Scotland in 1949 expressed as the actual cost and in terms of current purchasing power today; and what was the average cost of a school place in a new school in Scotland last year.

The costs are as follows:

Cost of place in 1949Cost of place in 1963
ActualAt 1963 prices
£££
New primary school224344266
New secondary school360558357

Imported Corned Beef

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps have now been taken by Her Majesty's Government to identify tins of beef imported from South America for human consumption in Great Britain.

I would refer the hon. and learned Member to the first paragraph of the Answer given by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to the hon. Member for Fife, West (Mr. W. Hamilton) on 22nd June.

Teacher Training Colleges (Evening Classes)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will have discussions with the principals of teacher training colleges with a view to introducing evening classes in teaching methods for male and female graduates presently without a certificate in teaching.

I am doubtful whether there is practical scope for such classes as a means of certification, but I am asking the Scottish Council for the Training of Teachers to consider the hon. Member's suggestion.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Agricultural Holdings, Suffolk

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give the figures for the number of holdings in 1950, 1960 and 1963, and the average size of holding in those years in the county of Suffolk.

The information is as follows:

NUMBER OF HOLDINGS IN SUFFOLK OF MORE THAN ONE ACRE OF LAND USED FOR AGRICULTURE
Number of HoldingsAverage Size*
(Acres)
19508,06992·5
19607,76197·0
19637,367102·0
* Based on total acreage of crops and grass and rough grazings.

Education And Science

Teachers (Shortage)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the shortage of school teachers in 1963 in England and Wales, giving the respective numbers for primary, junior, and senior secondary schools; what Steps he is taking to ease the position; and in what year he expects the schools to be fully staffed.

It is estimated that in 1963 the primary schools needed another 20,000 qualified teachers to eliminate classes of over 40 and the secondary schools another 40,000 to eliminate classes of over 30. Approved plans for the rapid expansion of the training colleges and the universities, together with the campaign to attract married women teachers back to the schools should substantially reduce the total deficit by 1970 and the remaining shortage will then be almost entirely in the primary schools. My National Advisory Council on the Training and Supply of Teachers is now studying both the short and long-term aspects of the problem and I cannot yet say by what date the supply of teachers will meet the demand.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the shortage of school teachers in the West Riding of Yorkshire for 1963, giving the numbers for primary, junior, and senior secondary schools, and the shortage in each subject taught in these schools, respectively.

On the same basis as that used in the Answer to the hon. Member's other Question, it is estimated that in 1963 the shortage in primary schools was 600 qualified teachers and in secondary schools 1,500. I have no figures for the shortage of teachers of individual subjects in secondary schools.

United Nations (United Towns Organisation)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what reply has been sent to Mr. Dondon Thiam, Foreign Minister of Senegal, in reply to his request for support at the United Nations for the United Towns Organisation and for a grant to that body; and what instructions have been given to the representatives of Her Majesty's Government at the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation in regard to town twinning.

The communication to which the hon. Member refers was included in a printed "Address" by Monsieur Thiam to "Ministers of Foreign Affairs throughout the World". This document, which was, in the main, a statement of the aims and methods of the United Towns Organisation, did not request a reply.The general subject of town twinning is not, as far as I am aware, on the agenda of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation. No special instructions have therefore been sent to the United Kingdom representative.

Hospitals

St Lawrence's Hospital, Bodmin

asked the Minister of Health whether he will make a statement on what benefits the St. Lawrence's Hospital at Bodmin, Cornwall, is expected to get from the Hospital Plan for England and Wales, including the facts as to timing and costs.

St. Lawrence's Hospital, Bodmin, is being remodelled. The first and second phases which consist mainly of new service departments and staff facilities started in January and are expected to cost £½ million. The third phase, a new out-patients' department, is expected to start within the next five years and to cost £175,000.

New Hospital, Treliske

asked the Minister of Health (1) what part Tehidy Chest Hospital is expected to play in the hospital organisation of West Cornwall when Treliske area hospital is completed;(2) what part Budock Hospital is expected to play in the hospital organisation of West Cornwall when the Treliske area hospital is completed;(3) what part Falmouth Hospital is expected to play in the hospital organisation of West Cornwall when the Treliske area hospital is completed;(4) what part Camborne-Redruth district hospital is expected to play in the hospital organisation of West Cornwall when the Treliske area hospital is completed;

(5) whether he will make a progress report on the Treliske, Cornwall, area hospital now in course of erection, stating when the first phase will be completed, what it is expected to cost, and what services it will provide; and if he will indicate the nature, timing and cost of further phases until the whole project is finished;

(6) whether he will make a statement on the future of Barncoose Geriatric Hospital, Cornwall.

The first phase of the new district general hospital at Treliske, 180 acute beds with supporting services, is expected to be commissioned within two years at a cost of about £2 million. The second phase of 80 maternity beds and 20 special care baby cots, costing over £1 million, is expected to start by the end of this year. The third phase of about 200 acute beds and supporting services is due to start in the second quinquennium, but its scope and cost are under review. Further phases are not yet settled.It is too early to say what the effect of the completion of the hospital will be on existing hospitals in the area. Barncoose will be retained as a geriatric hospital but the future use of Camborne-Redruth, Budock and Tehidy Hospitals will be reviewed in consultation with the local interests concerned in advance of the completion of the third phase of Treliske. The Regional Hospital Board propose that Falmouth Hospital should be used for paediatric and post-operative recovery patients after the completion of the first phase of Treliske.

Lycett Green Committee (Report)

asked the Minister of Health whether he proposes to implement the report of the Lycett Green Committee; and if he will make a statement.

I accept generally the main recommendations of this Committee which are designed to ensure more effective co-ordination of the making of appointments and of staff training and movement. I propose to consider the detailed recommendations and their implementation in consultation with the National Staff Committee when it is set up.Mr. A. V. Martin, C.B.E., Chairman of the Sheffield Regional Hospital Board, has accepted my invitation to become Chairman of the National Staff Committee, and I hope to appoint the other members shortly.

Home Department

Detective-Sergeant Challenor

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now agree to receive a deputation of Members to discuss various aspects relating to the cases handled by Detective-Sergeant Challenor and other police officers, in particular the cases of Mr. Ricardo Pedrini, Mr. Alan Cheeseman, Mr. Joseph Oliver and Mr. John Ford.

Housing

Lowestoft

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs what is the number of houses at present being built by Lowestoft Town Council; and what application he has received to build more houses.

The council has 16 dwellings under construction at present. So far this year, one tender—for the erection of 10 more houses—has been submitted: this was approved on 2nd June.

Employment

Agricultural Workers, Suffolk

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of agricultural workers in Suffolk in 1950, 1960 and 1964; and how many are at present unemployed.

It is not possible to dissociate the figures of employees in the Diss and Harleston Employment Exchange areas from those for the employment exchanges in Suffolk. The figures for the Diss and Harleston employment exchanges have therefore been included in the numbers of both employees and unemployed. Figures of employees for mid-1964 are not yet available.

Following is the information:

COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, DISS AND HARLESTON E. E. AREAS

Agriculture

Employees (employed and unemployed)Numbers Unemployed
Mid 195029,237
Mid 196022,286
Mid 196321,624
15th June, 1964207

Railway Employees

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of railway workers in the United Kingdom in 1950, 1960, and 1964, respectively; and how many are at present unemployed.

The following table gives the number of railwaymen, employed and unemployed together, in the United Kingdom in mid-1950, 1960 and 1963. The figures do not include some ancillary employment and may include workers employed by private manufacturers of rolling stock and equipment. Figures for 1964 are not yet available.The unemployment figures for 11th May, 1964, are also included.

Railway Employees Employed and UnemployedNumbers Unemployed
Mid-1950725,000
Mid-1960596,490
Mid-1963538,930
11th May 19645,959

Hull

asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of unemployed in Hull, the number who have been unemployed for over 12 months, six months, and three months, respectively; and what steps are being taken to increase the employment in the city.

On 15th June, 1964, there were 2,836 unemployed. The information asked for in the second part of the question is not available for June. On 13th April the numbers were 612, 378 and 485 respectively.The Board of Trade will consider sympathetically applications for Industrial Development Certificates for projects in the Hull area which cannot go to development districts. As the Secretary of State announced on 4th June, the Board of Trade has also put in hand the preliminary work necessary for considering the future development of the East and West Ridings and adjacent areas.

Government Training Centre, Hull

asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of males and females at present under training in the Government Training Centre in Hull; what subjects are being taught; what is the number trained since the re-opening of the centre; and what is the number of these trainees placed in jobs and the nature of their employment.

There are at present 62 trainees (all males) at the Hull Government Training Centre. Training is being provided in the following trades: bricklaying, carpentry, plumbing, capstan setting operating, instrument bench and machine work.Since the opening of the centre last December 8 men have completed training courses (7 carpenters and 1 bricklayer) and they have been placed in employment direct from the centre in the trades for which they were trained.

Pensions And National Insurance

National Assistance Recipients, Hull

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what is the total number of persons in Hull drawing National Assistance, and the number of males and females, respectively, drawing assistance on account of retirement, sickness, unemployment, and other causes.

The information is as follows:

Number of persons receiving national assistance grants in March 1964
Over retirement age13,409
Unemployed1,540
Sick2,933
Widows with widow's benefit1,120
Others1,047
20,049

The numbers relate to the area served by the Board's offices in Hull, which comprises the county borough and some adjacent districts. They cannot be given separately for men and women.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what is the number of widows in Hull drawing the 10s. per week widow's pension; and how many are in receipt of National Assistance.

I regret that this information is not readily available for particular localities.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance, what is the number of blind and partially blind persons, respectively, in Hull; and how many in each category are drawing the higher blind pension only, and National Assistance, respectively.

I regret that this information about National Assistance cannot easily be obtained for particular localities.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what is the number of males and females, respectively, in Hull who, because of physical and mental illness, respectively, have never paid National Insurance contributions, and are not entitled to the death grant; and what grant is made by the National Assistance Board in such cases.

I regret that the information requested in the first part of the Question is not available. As regards the help which the National Assistance Board can give in such cases, I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Members for Swansea, East (Mr. McBride) and Glasgow, Scotstoun (Mr. Small) on 22nd June.