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Volume 698: debated on Monday 6 July 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 6th July, 1964

Hospitals

Sick Children (Visits By Parents)

5.

asked the Minister of Health what steps he is taking to improve the arrangements for the visiting of sick children in hospital by their parents.

I am now advising hospital boards that wherever fixed visiting hours to children still exist they should be abandoned; the ward sister and consultant will retain discretion to decide when visiting would not be appropriate.

Nurses And Midwives (Pay)

15.

asked the Minister of Health what has been the nature of his recent discussions with the interested parties concerning the nurses' and midwives' pay claim.

I have had no discussions. The claim is being considered by the Nurses' and Midwives' Whitley Council.

Deaf And Blind Persons

39.

asked the Minister of Health what advice he has given to hospital authorities since 21st February, 1964, about meeting the special needs of patients in hospitals who are both deaf and blind.

The advice, of which I am sending my hon. Friend a copy, aims at breaking down the isolation of the deaf blind who have to be in psychiatric and other long stay hospitals, and at ensuring that no deaf blind person is admitted or stays there if he can be cared for in the community.

Coventry

40.

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the inadequacy of hospital services in the Coventry area and the difficulties under which medical staff engaged in these services are working; and what action he is taking to improve hospital services in this area.

Yes, but well over £1 million has been spent on improving the existing hospitals since 1948. Further work is in progress. As I informed my hon. Friend, the Member for Coventry, South (Mr. Hocking) on 29th June, work on the new Walsgrave Hospital is well advanced.

47.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will make provision for some temporary hospital buildings at Stoney Stanton Road, Coventry, for the out-patient and casualty departments; and if he will expedite a decision on the capital works proposals that are at present before him.

The Regional Hospital Board will consider this and other possible methods of improving the present services; it is currently considering other interim improvements at the hospital and is studying how the completion of the re-development can best be carried out.

King's Lynn

42.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware of the concern in King's Lynn and the surrounding district at the announcement of the delay in not starting the new hospital there until the early 1970's; what are the benefits of the revised plan which will help to offset the disadvantages of the delay; and whether, in view of the inadequacy of the present accommodation, he will make sufficient funds available for a start to be made on a date as near as possible to that originally planned.

58.

asked the Minister of Health if, in view of the growing concern of people in the area covered by the King's Lynn Hospital at his decision to delay the building of the new hospital, he will reconsider the matter, and carry out the original intention of building this hospital.

A re-assessment of the needs of the area has led the Regional Board to the conclusion that a considerably larger and more comprehensive hospital will be required and this will call for a larger site than was originally contemplated. Although the actual building may not start as early as had been hoped, the Project Team already set up is preparing the new plans.

Maternity Cases (Slough, Eton, Ascot And Bracknell)

46.

asked the Minister of Health what emergency and long-term measures he has authorised in the Slough, Eton, Ascot, and Bracknell areas to meet the shortage of accommodation for maternity cases.

The completion of the first stage of the new hospital at Wexham Park will enable maternity accommodation at Upton Hospital to be increased in about two years' time. In the longer term there will be further provision at Heatherwood and at Wexham Park.

Whitchurch Mental Hospital, Cardiff (Patients)

48 and 49.

asked the Minister of Health (1) whether he will state the number of patients in Whitchurch Mental Hospital, Cardiff, who could have been discharged three months ago or longer, but who are retained in hospital because there is no home to which they can return;(2) how many discharged patients from Whitchurch Mental Hospital have been housed in local authority hostels during the past six months; and what steps are being taken to reduce more rapidly the list of people who are waiting for such accommodation.

I understand that about 160 patients in this hospital could live in the community if suitable accommodation of various kinds were available. Fourteen have been housed in local authority accommodation during the past six months. The local authorities concerned propose a substantial increase in their provision of residential homes.

Building Programme, Liverpool

51.

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Liverpool Regional Hospital Board; how many schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974; and how many schemes were originally included in the period up to 1972–73 but have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £11 million compared with what was originally proposed.The answer to the second part of the Question is None. Of the schemes which were in the programme following the first revision one is now likely to start some time after 1974.

Building Programme, South-West Metropolitan Region

52.

asked the Minister of Health if he will give the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the South-West Metropolitan Regional Hospital Board, the schemes which have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974, and the schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 but now deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £8 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan are as follows:

New district general hospital at Aldershot (Frimley).
Southlands Hospital, Worthing—further development
Royal Earlswood Hospital—further modernisation.

Of the schemes which were in the programme following the first revision only the Woking Victoria Hospital ward block has been deferred beyond 1974.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, Leeds

54.

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Leeds Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974; and what schemes, originally included in the period up to 1972–73, have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £8 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The paediatric unit, kitchen and dining room at the St. James's Hospital, Leeds, is the only scheme in this region suggested as likely to start within the original ten-year programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan.No scheme which was in the programme following the' first revision has been deferred beyond 1974.Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, South-East Metropolitan Region

55.

asked the Minister of Health by how much the financial content of the hospital programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision has been reduced from the programme previously agreed for the South-East Metropolitan Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have now been left out until the period 1970 to 1974; and what schemes, originally included in the period up to 1972–73, have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £10 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The third phase of the Kent and Canterbury Hospital is the only scheme in this region suggested as likely to start within the original ten-year programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan.No scheme which was in the programme following the first revision has been deferred beyond 1974.Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, Manchester

56.

asked the Minister of Health if he will give the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Manchester Regional Hospital Board, the schemes which have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974, and the schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 but now deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £16 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes.The schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan are as follows:

Withington Hospital—residential accommodation.
Bury General Hospital—major developments.
Crumpsall Hospital—nurses' accommodation and nurse-training centre.
Ashton General Hospital—second phase of development.

The schemes included in the programme following the first revision which are now likely to start some time after 1974 are as follows:—

Barrow Hospital—second phase of new hospital.
Stepping Hill Hospital, Stockport—expansion and rebuilding.
Salford Royal Hospital—first phase of new hospital.
Royal Albert Edward Infirmary, Wigan—first phase of rebuilding.
Queen's Park Hospital, Blackburn—maternity department and ward upgrading.
Blackburn Royal Infirmary—accident department.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, Sheffield

57.

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the revised hospital building programme 1963–74 for the Sheffield Regional Hospital Board compared with the programme previously agreed; which schemes have now been postponed until the period 1970–74; and which schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £15 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes.The Schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan are as follows:

Fir Vale Infirmary—Geriatric beds.
New district general hospital at Chesterfield.
Kilton Hospital, Worksop—further development.
Manor Hospital, Derby—rebuilding of geriatric accommodation.

Of these schemes which were in the programme following the first revision only the upgrading and additional geriatric beds at the Skegness and District Hospital has been deferred beyond 1974.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, East Anglia

59.

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the building programme 1963 to 1974 as shown by the latest revision, as compared with the programme previously agreed, for the East Anglian Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974; and what schemes, originally included in the period up to 1972–73, have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £7 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes.The answer to the second part of the Question is None.

The schemes included in the programme following the first revision which are now likely to start some time after 1974 are as follows:—

Great Yarmouth New Hospital—first phase.
Walnut Tree Hospital, Huntingdon—new building for geriatrics and maternity.
Stamford and Rutland Hospital—new ward block and out-patient department.
Saffron Walden General Hospital—new building and improvements.
West Suffolk General Hospital—geriatric and maternity units, etc.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Oldham

64.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is satisfied that the hospitals' future development plan makes adequate provision for the needs of the inhabitants of the county borough of Oldham and the urban district of Chadderton, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

The Regional Hospital Board is improving the services available in this area and plan substantial further improvements over the next few years.

Waiting List, Oldham

65.

asked the Minister of Health how many patients were awaiting operative treatment at the Oldham hospitals at the most recent date for which figures are available.

2,203 on 30th June, 1964. It is hoped that the new operating theatres being completed at Oldham and District General Hospital at the end of this year will contribute to a reduction of the waiting list.

Building Programme, North-East Metropolitan Region

66.

asked the Minister of Health if he will give the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the North-East Metropolitan Regional Hospital Board, the schemes which now have been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974, and the schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 but now deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £11 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan are as follows:—

King George Hospital, Ilford—large scale extensions.
New district general hospital for Bow/ Poplar.
New district general hospital, Colchester.

The schemes included in the programme following the first revision which are now likely to start some time after 1974 are as follows:—

St. George's Hospital, Hornchurch—new out-patient and X-ray departments.
Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Hackney— nurses' home and new block.
Chase Farm Hospital, Enfield—extensive rebuilding.
Hart's Hospital, Woodford Green—new district general hospital.
Whipps Cross Hospital, Leytonstone—extensions and improvements.
St. Faith's Hospital, Brentwood—development as regional epileptic centre.
Harold Wood Hospital—completion of new hospital.
Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford—new district general hospital.
Rochford General Hospital—psychiatric department.
Herts, and Essex Hospital Bishop's Stort-ford—extension of psychiatric Department.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, Newcastle

67.

asked the Minister of Health what was the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963–74 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Newcastle Regional Hospital Board; which schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970–74; and which of the schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £8 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargements of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan are as follows:—

Darlington Memorial Hospital—main development.
Newcastle General Hospital—new 100-bed ward block.
Child psychiatry unit in Sunderland.
Ayclifi'e Hospital—extension to 700 beds.

The schemes included in the programme following the first revision which are now likely to start some time after 1974 are as follows:—

Shotley Bridge General Hospital—casualty department and part of X-ray department.
Sunderland General Hospital—new ward blocks.
West Hartlepool General Hospital—psychiatric unit.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Beckenham Hospital

68.

asked the Minister of Health on how many days in the first five months of 1964 the number of patients in Beckenham Hospital exceeded the normal number of beds provided in the wards.

London Chest Hospital (Mr W Jarvis)

69 and 70.

asked the Minister of Health (1) whether he will consider granting compensation to the widow of Mr. Walter Jarvis for the loss of her husband, in view of the failure of the authorities to provide a conveyance to return him from the London Chest Hospital to his home in Forest Gate, E.7, after having been an in-patient, having an oxygen tent, and being almost dead the evening before his discharge from hospital; and whether he will make a statement;(2) whether he is aware that Mr. Walter Jarvis entered the London Chest Hospital for treatment on the morning of 6th April, 1964, that that afternoon the police advised his wife to phone the hospital, where she was told her husband had stopped breathing and was in an oxygen tent, and that, on visiting him later, although he had slightly recovered he was nearly dead and barely conscious; why, on the following afternoon, he was discharged and refused transport to take him from the hospital to his home in Forest Gate, E.7, whereby he was compelled to use two buses and a train to get home, resulting in his death the following morning; and whether he will make a statement.

No; I am aware of the circumstances of Mr. Jarvis' death, and I should like to express my sympathy with his widow in her loss. I understand that a post-mortem examination showed Mr. Jarvis to be suffering from a condition from which he might have died at any time and there is no evidence that his death was hastened by his hospital treatment or his journey home. He attended on 6th April for a bronchoscopy. This particular diagnostic procedure revealed no abnormality. As he needed assisted respiration after the examination, he was however kept in the hospital overnight. The following afternoon he was examined by two doctors who agreed that he was fully recovered from the effects of this examination and fit for discharge.It is the responsibility of doctors in charge of patients to advise whether an ambulance is required and in this case they did not recommend one. I am enquiring further into the detailed arrangements at the hospital for ordering transport and will let the hon. Member know the outcome.

Out-Patient Services (Study)

71.

asked the Minister of Health why the study of out-patient services covering delay in obtaining appointments and waiting time in departments is the only one out of 300 studies in the List of Hospital Studies, HM 64/13, to be listed as Report under Consideration; if that consideration is yet completed; and if he will make a statement.

There are six studies so listed in the 211 entries; consideration of the study report with representatives of hospital authorities and other interested organisations is still in progress; my right hon. Friend intends to issue the report with appropriate advice, as soon as possible.

New Hospital, Leyton

72.

asked the Minister of Health when he estimates building will start on the new hospital to serve persons living in Leyton and adjacent areas within the North-Eastern Metropolitan Region.

On the Board's current priorities the reconstruction of Whipps Cross Hospital is unlikely to begin until after 1973–74.To some extent, Leyton may also be served by the new Queen Mary's Hospital to be built on the site of Forest Gate Hospital.

Mexborough Montagu Hospital

76.

asked the Minister of Health in which year the project for up-grading the Mexborough Montagu Hospital will be completed.

St John's Hospital, Twickenham

77.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will withdraw from public auction the Stratford Road section of the gardens of St. John's Hospital, Twickenham, in view of the facts that the land was given for the benefit of the people of Twickenham and provides an amenity for the hospital, and that any building erected on it would overlook one of the wards of the hospital.

My right hon. Friend is arranging for the auction to be postponed so that the various views which have been expressed may be fully considered.

New Maternity Wing, North Staffordshire

78.

asked the Minister of Health by how much the original estimate for the new maternity wing in North Staffordshire has now increased.; and what period of delay in its completion he anticipates as a result of changes in the plan.

About £½ million; there was a delay of five months in completing the working drawings to take account of the geological survey and this will be reflected in the completion date.

Hospital Beds, West Suffolk

asked the Minister of Health how many hospital beds have been provided in West Suffolk in each year since the war.

I regret that figures are not available for the period before 1953. From that year the numbers of staffed beds in the West Suffolk Hospital Management Committee Group as at 31st December, are:

1953950
1954957
1955923
1956915
1957915
1958897
1959893
1960890
19611,015
19621,062
19631,029

Student Nurses (Training)

asked the Minister of Health what conclusions he has reached on the recommendations in the report submitted to him by the Royal College of Nursing and the National Council of Nurses regarding the training of student nurses.

Doctors And Nursing Staff (Commonwealth Immigrants)

asked the Minister of Health how many Commonwealth immigrants were working in the hospital service as doctors, as nursing staff, and as auxiliary staff, at the latest date for which figures are available; and what approximate percentages of each category they represent.

At 31st December, 1963, 10,588 or about 16 per cent. of student and pupil nurses in hospitals in England and Wales were from Commonwealth countries. Otherwise the information is not available.

Thermometers

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that most London teaching hospitals now supply one thermometer per patient; and if he will encourage all hospitals in England and Wales to adopt the same practice.

I understand that this is a rapidly growing practice in acute hospitals throughout the country. The provision of one thermometer per bed in these hospitals is recommended in my Department's Hospital Equipment Notes.

Building Programme, Oxford Region

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963–1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Oxford Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974; and what schemes, originally included in the period up to 1972–73, have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. and learned Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £7 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes.The following are the schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the revised plan:

Northampton General Hospital—first phase of major redevelopment.
Stoke Mandeville Hospital—first phase of development.

In answer to the last part of the Question the schemes included in the programme following the first revision which are now likely to start some time after 1974 are as follows:

Danetre Hospital, Daventry—Modernisation and extension.
Corby—extension to diagnostic centre and maternity unit.
Corby—Annexe to Kettering General Hospital.
Pewsey Hospital, Wiltshire—new villa.
Townlands Hospital, Henley-on-Thames—modernisation.
Amersham General Hospital—development.
Psychopathic unit and adolescent psychiatric unit.
Northampton General Hospital—second phase of redevelopment.
New hospital at Cirencester—second phase.
Royal Berkshire and Battle Hospitals, Reading—further development.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Stoke-On-Trent

asked the Minister of Health what proposals he has to modernise and increase the hospital accommodation within the City of Stoke-on-Trent and to serve the North Staffs area; and when they are planned to be undertaken.

Construction of a new accident department, a new out-patient department and a neuro-surgical and neurological block is in progress; a new maternity unit and boiler house are expected to start later this year; and a new pathological department and a geriatric unit are planned to start during the next five years.

Salford Royal Hospital

asked the Minister of Health when Salford Royal Hospital was built; what has been the total amount spent on the modernisation of the building; what are the industrial towns it serves; what hospital provision is provided for Eccles, Swinton, and Pendlebury; and by when this industrial area will be provided with a modern hospital.

1865; over £150,000 since 1948; the hospital meets part of the need of Salford, Worsley, Irlam, Stretford, Eccles, Swinton and Pendlebury but services are also provided by Hope Hospital, by hospitals in the West Manchester Group and by the United Manchester Hospitals; Hope Hospital is being redeveloped to provide a modern hospital; a new hospital is planned later to replace the Royal Hospital.

Building Programme, Wessex

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963–74 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Wessex Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970–74; and what schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 are now deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £8 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of me revised plan are as follows:

New hospital for the mentally subnormal, near Poole.
Royal Hampshire County Hospital, Winchester—further stages towards completion of rebuilding.
Queen Alexandra Hospital, Cosham—accident centre.
New hospital for the mentally subnormal, in the north of the Region.

Of the schemes which were in the programme following the first revision only the addition of 80 beds at Longford Hospital has been deferred beyond 1974.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Midwives

asked the Minister of Health what steps he is taking to improve conditions of service and salary scales for hospital and domiciliary midwives.

Pay and conditions of service of midwives are matters for the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council which has introduced many improvements.

Building Programme, Wales

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974 shown by the latest revision as compared with the programme previously agreed for the Welsh Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974; and what schemes originally included in the period up to 1972–73 have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme of the Welsh Hospital Board has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £12 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes.The answer to the second part of the Question is None.

In answer to the last part of the Question, the schemes included in the programme following the first revision and which are now likely to start some time after 1974 are as follows:—

Ely Hospital, Cardiff—new ward blocks, kitchen and occupational therapy departments.
St. Cadoc's Hospital, Caerleon—upgrading.
Morriston Hospital—modernisation.
Llanelly Hospital—new ward block.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Building Programme, Birmingham

asked the Minister of Health what is the total amount of the decrease in the financial content of the hospital building programme 1963 to 1974, shown by the latest revision, compared with the programme previously agreed for the Birmingham Regional Hospital Board; what schemes have now been excluded until the period 1970 to 1974; and what schemes orginally included in the period up to 1972–73 have now been deferred beyond 1974.

The financial content of the hospital building programme for this region has not been decreased, as implied in the hon. Member's Question. On the contrary, this year's revision shows an increase for the region of £18 million compared with what was originally proposed.As I have previously explained, with changes in priorities, involving the development of new projects in the national programme and the bringing forward and the enlargement of others, it has been necessary, despite an increased hospital programme in real terms, to defer some schemes. The schemes suggested as likely to start within the original programme but now beyond it and expected to start before the end of the ten-year programme of the present plan are as follows:—

Rubery new hospital—main acute wards.
City General Hospital, Stoke—acute ward block.
Geriatric unit, maternity provision and out-patient services in Ludlow.
Copthorne, Shrewsbury—second phase of new hospital.

None of the schemes which were in the programme following the first revision has been deferred beyond 1974.

Many schemes now differ considerably in scope from what was earlier envisaged, and are likely to change further.

Ministry Of Health

Cervical Cancer

10.

asked the Minister of Health if he will make a statement on the progress made in routine tests for cervical cancer.

79.

asked the Minister of Health what plans he has now made for the establishment of cytology detection centres on a national or regional basis.

I would refer my hon. Friends to my reply on 4th May to the hon. Member for Dearne Valley (Mr. Wainwright).

asked the Minister of Health whether the expansion of the cytological examination service to form a national screening service for symptomless patients for the purpose of diagnosing cervical cancer would be a public health responsibility or the responsibility of the hospital service.

The provision of the laboratory facilities required before such a service can be introduced is the responsibility of the hospital service. Arrangements for the routine examination of symptomless women will vary from one area to another and will be discussed locally.

asked the Minister of health whether he will make a statement about the progress being made in the North West Metropolitan Regional Hospital Board area towards establishing a cytological examination service available to clinicians and general practitioners for the purpose of detecting cervical cancer in its pre-cancerous stage.

The Board has provided a service in one hospital group for both hospital patients and referals from general practitioners; and in 13 groups for hospital patients. The Board has under consideration extending the service to cover both categories in all the groups.

asked the Minister of Health what is the estimated cost of establishing a national screening service for cytological examination of symptomless patients with the purpose of diagnosing cervical cancer in its precancerous stage.

I regret that at this stage no reliable estimate of the cost of a comprehensive scheme can be made.

Food Hygiene

12.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will review the public health regulations relating to the cleanliness of food with a view to taking steps to raise the standards of hygiene used in the handling of food before sale.

I have recently reminded local authorities of the vital importance of food hygiene, and have also submitted proposals for amendments of the regulations to local authority associations and other interested parties for comment.

35.

asked the Minister of Health if he will take powers to require all cafés, restaurants, and eating houses to display in a prominent position a notice inviting patrons to inspect the kitchens.

No. These premises are already subject to inspection by public health officers under the Food Hygiene (General) Regulations, 1960.

Elderly Persons, Brighton (Residential Care)

27.

asked the Minister of Health what progress is being made by the County Borough of Brighton in the provision of residential care of the elderly.

The Council provides residential care for some 614 elderly people, 501 in their own accommodation and 113 in voluntary homes.The Council's policy is to build small homelike homes of 35 places or less. Seven such homes have so far been opened; I is under construction, and 9 more are planned for completion by 1974. More than 1,000 elderly people will be accommodated by that date.

Sulphur Fumes

36.

asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the fact that, as stated in a Report of the Depart- ment of Scientific and Industrial Research, sulphur dioxide release to atmosphere has risen by 23 per cent. although smoke emission has been reduced by 35 per cent., he will institute an inquiry into the effects of such sulphur fumes on health, having regard to the increase in lung cancer and bronchitis and other chest ailments.

I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply of 25th June, to the hon. Member for Dunfermline Burghs (Dr. A. Thompson).

Corned Beef

37.

asked the Minister of Health when he ordered the withdrawal from distribution of corned beef produced by Establishment 1819 in Cordoba and imported during 1963, and for what reasons; how much was condemned by port health inspectors after landing, how much passed and how much has been recovered to date; what brands were involved; and if he will make a statement.

My Chief Medical Officer circularised medical officers of health about the withdrawal of 6 lb. cans of "Andes" brand on 15th June, and about all such cans of all brands from Argentina Establishment 1819 on 22nd June; this was done as a precautionary measure because food-poisoning organisms had been isolated from an unopened sample of "Andes" brand, and because of information from the Argentine authorities. Information is not centrally available to answer the other points raised.

45.

asked the Minister of Health on approximately what dates the typhoid outbreaks at Harlow, South Shields, and Bedford in 1963 were first attributed to corned beef.

May, June and October. But evidence did not accumulate until the end of October to justify attribution to meat infected in the can.

Au Pair Girls

38.

asked the Minister of Health if he will issue a temporary health card for au pair girls visiting this country so that their names can be automatically removed from doctors' patients' lists on their return home.

I sympathise with my hon. Friend's objective and am considering what more can be done to meet it. There are difficulties about his proposal but I hope the problem can be surmounted in other ways.

Public Health Inspectors

41.

asked the Minister of Health if agreement has yet been arrived at on the recruitment and remuneration of public health inspectors.

On recruitment I would refer the hon. Member to my reply of 16th June to my hon. Friend the Member for Willesden, East (Mr. Skeet). Remuneration is a matter for the National Joint Council.

Fluoride Tablets

43.

asked the Minister of Health if he will take the steps necessary to ensure that fluoride tablets are supplied free on prescription to those who require them.

Migraine

44.

asked the Minister of Health what steps he is taking under Section 3 (1) (c) of Part II of the National Health Service Act, 1946. to provide the services of specialists at a clinic for the treatment of migraine, in view of the fact that 9·7 per cent. of the population suffer from this affliction.

The services of general physicians and neurologists are available for the treatment of migraine at National Health Service hospitals, and they can organise treatment in clinics if they consider it appropriate.

Lung Cancer

50.

asked the Minister of Health to what extent the latest medical evidence confirms that heavy smoking is a cause of lung cancer.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply on 29th June to the hon. Member for St. Pancras, North (Mr. K. Robinson).

Imported Food

60.

asked the Minister of Health if the Government have yet completed their review of the food poisoning organisms in imported tins of foodstuffs from South America found in Leith, Edinburgh, Wapping, and elsewhere; and when he will publish a full report of these dangers to public health and the steps Her Majesty's Government is taking, and has taken to protect the public from these dangers.

No. Any proposed changes to the imported Food Regulations will be submitted to interested parties and to the Food Hygiene Advisory Council before regulations are laid before Parliament.

asked the Minister of Health v/hat replies he has had to the memorandum which he sent on 19th June, 1964, to all medical officers of health, asking them to take protective measures against the danger of human infection from tins of beef imported for human consumption into Great Britain; and what further steps he has taken and plans to take as a consequence of these replies.

I assume the hon. and learned Member is referring to my Chief Medical Officer's circular letter of 22nd June. This did not call for any reply.

Seaside Resorts (Oil Pollution)

61.

asked the Minister of Health what expert evidence is in his possession to the effect that the pollution of the sea at British seaside resorts is not dangerous to health.

My answer to the hon. and learned Member on 29th June was confined to oil and tar pollution in the sea and was based on advice from my medical advisers.

Dentists (Remuneration And Recruitment)

62.

asked the Minister of Health if he is satisfied with the present remuneration and recruitment of dentists; and if he will make a statement.

The remuneration of dentists is for the independent Review Body who have the matter under consideration. On recruitment more dentists are still needed but the number is growing steadily.

Water Supplies (Fluoridation)

63.

asked the Minister of Health what new evidence his Department or the Medical Research Council have received on the effects of fluoridation of drinking water; to what extent this indicates that fluoridation is a harmful process; and if he will issue a directive to all local health authorities advising them of the dangers to health in fluoridation of water supplies.

Neither my Department nor the Medical Research Council has received any evidence which would cause us to doubt the safety of fluoridation. The last part of the question does not therefore arise.

German Measles

73.

asked the Minister of Health what research he is undertaking on the effect of german measles on pregnant women; to what extent the incidence of blindness and deafness among babies due to their mothers having suffered from german measles during pregnancy has increased in recent years; if immunisation against this disease is being recommended; and what provision is being made for the assistance of infants affected by blindness and deafness.

A report of a special inquiry was published in 1960; I am sending the hon. Member a copy. There was an increase of 25 in 1963 as compared with 1962 in the number of new registrations of blind children under five; the reasons for this are not known but inquiries are in progress. I have no comparable figures for deafness. I am advised that it is not at present practicable to protect against this disease by vaccination. A wide range of local authority and voluntary services is available.

Infant Mortality

75.

asked the Minister of Health if he will state the infant mortality rate in the United Kingdom for the years 1960, 1961, 1962 and 1963.

22·4 per thousand live births in 1960, 22·1 in 1961, 22·4 in 1962 and 21·7 in 1963. The last figure is provisional.

Doctors (Gillie Report)

asked the Minister of Health what estimate he has made of the number of doctors necessary to fulfil the recommendations of the Gillie Report.

The general tenor of the Report is being taken into account in reviewing future medical manpower requirements, but its recommendations are not in terms appropriate for an estimate such as my hon. Friend suggests.

asked the Minister of Health what advice he has given to hospital management committees in order to extend the open prescribing by general practitioners, as already exists in the X-ray and pathological departments, to all treatment given by hospitals when the general practitioner believes that it is unnecessary to have the opinion of a consultant.

Hospital authorities have been asked to study the references in the Gillie Report to the help which the hospital service can give to the family doctor, but the Report draws a distinction between diagnostic services to which general practitioners might reasonably have direct access and therapeutic procedures, usually involving repeated visits to hospital, which should be under the supervision of hospital medical staff.

Pharmacists (Exclusive Brethren)

asked the Minister of Health (1) how many pharmacists, who are Exclusive Brethren and not members of the Pharmaceutical Society, are currently allowed to dispense National Health Service prescriptions and sell poisons; and in which towns they are operating; (2) which National Health Service Executive Councils still retain on their lists pharmacists who, being Exclusive Brethren, are not members of the Pharmaceutical Society.

So far as I am aware no unregistered pharmacist is on the Pharmaceutical List of an Executive Council. A National Health Service prescription may be dispensed only by or under the direct supervision of a registered pharmacist, and a retail sale of a poison cannot be made except by or under the personal control of a registered pharmacist. I have no particulars as to the employment of persons within these requirements.

Doctors (Supernumerary Duties)

asked the Minister of Health how many supernumerary medical jobs outside general practice, paid out of the general pool for doctors' salaries, were carried out by doctors in 1948, 1952, 1956, and 1960 to 1963; and what were the costs for each of these years.

I have no statistics of appointments and services outside general practice which are remunerated from the pool, and pool payments are not classified so as to show such work separately. Total pool payments by other authorities than Executive Councils to general practitioners in Great Britain were as follows:—

£m.
1948–49 (9 months)1·8
1952–532·6
1956–573·0
1960–614·2
1961–625·1
1962–03.4·9

Prescription (Mr F Smith)

asked the Minister of Health why Mr. Frank Smith of. 2, Beeney House, Upper Elmers End Road, Beckenham, Kent, cannot obtain supplies of anti-haemophilia egg white derivative which has been prescribed for him under the National Health Service; and what steps are being taken to ease the shortage.

I understand that the manufacturer of this preparation has gone out of business. Since it has never been considered of proved therapeutic value, no steps are being taken to stimulate production.

Elderly Persons (Hypothermia)

asked the Minister of Health what new steps have been taken to lessen the dangers of hypothermia amongst elderly people during the corning winter.

I understand that the British Medical Association is preparing a statement of advice on this subject, and hope to publish it before the coming winter.

Typhoid

asked the Minister of Health what representations were made to Her Majesty's Government and with what results, respectively, under the Croydon Corporation Act, 1939, and under the Public Health Act, 1961, when compensation was paid by the municipalities to persons who had contracted loss and damage in Croydon, Harlow, South Shields, and Bedford in the years 1937, 1938, and 1963 from typhoid epidemics there.

As regards the Croydon Corporation Act, 1939, successful application was made for loan sanction. As regards the Public Health Act, 1961, no representations were made.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Corned Beef

81.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what quantity of corned beef sold to him by an American firm has been re-sold to retailers and wholesalers; and how many complaints he has received about its quality.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to corned beef in 12 oz. cans originally bought by the Ministry from a firm which decided last October to cease re-purchasing it as stocks were turned over. Since then over 900 tons, with the firm's label removed from the tins and its name blacked out on the cases, have been resold to retailers and wholesalers without a single complaint to me about their quality.

84.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will destroy all Government-held stocks of corned beef which had been manufactured before the chlorinated water cooling process had been adopted.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 17th June to his similar Question about Government held stocks in Scotland.

Packed Foodstuffs (Date Of Manufacture)

82.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will introduce legislation to require all carriers and packagers of foodstuffs to date-stamp all tins and packages with the date of manufacture.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Bristol, Central (Mr. Awbery) on 8th June.

Milk (Regional Price Differentials)

83.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the continued representations that have been made to him by the milk producers in the south-east on the question of regional price differentials; and whether he proposes to appoint an arbitrator.

I have received no request to appoint an arbitrator, nor any formal representations from these producers. I have, however, received a request for advice, to which I replied that the determination of regional milk price differentials is properly a matter for the Board.

Stokesley Flood Relief Scheme

85.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now make a statement regarding the Stokesley Flood Relief Scheme; and what contribution Her Majesty's Government is prepared to give to the Wear and Tees River Board to make it possible for work to begin.

My right hon. Friend regrets that, despite full and sympathetic consideration of all the arguments put forward in favour of this scheme, he cannot approve it for grant-aid because its benefit would not justify its cost.

Fertilisers

86.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will reduce the discrepancy allowance on the analysis of fertiliser compounds from 10 per cent. to 5 per cent.; and what approaches have been made to his Department from the trade for these alterations to be made.

I am not aware of any approaches from the trade, but representations have been received from the National Farmers Union, which it has been asked to submit, with supporting evidence, to the Standing Advisory Committee whose advice I should need before there could be any question of amendment of the Regulations under the Fertilisers and Feeding Stuffs Act, 1926.

Meat Trade (Employment)

87.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that redundancies and loss of earnings are being experienced by workers employed in the wholesale meat, slaughtering, bacon curing, and meat processing industries, due to shortage of supplies, and that these shortages are being created by the uncontrolled incursion of continental buyers into the livestock markets in many parts of the country; and, in view of these facts, what action he now proposes to take to remedy this situation.

I am not aware that the level of meat supplies is having any general effect on employment in these industries. Indeed, during the period January-May this year more cattle, sheep and pigs were slaughtered than in the corresponding period last year. I have already expressed the opinion—and was supported by the United Kingdom Joint Consultative Council for the Meat Trade—that if we were to try to insulate our cattle markets from world trade we would risk increasing diversion to the Continent of the beef imports that are needed, not least by our meat processing industry.

White Fish Industry

88.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what reply he has made to the recommendations and suggestions of the White Fish Authority on the white fish industry.

I am not yet in a position to make a statement on the suggestions made by the White Fish Authority. The Secretary of State for Scotland and I will, however, this week be laying before Parliament a scheme enabling grants to be made towards the improvement of fishing vessels. I hope to be able to give the House further information soon.

Egg Marketing Board (Report)

89.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has studied the report from the Consumers' Committee, dealing with consumer complaints about the "seconds" scheme introduced by the British Egg Marketing Board; and what action he proposes to take on it.

The Agriculture Ministers have now received this Report and I am placing a copy in the Library of the House. Copies are being made available from the Agricultural Departments on request.In brief the Committee concluded that some consumers have suffered hardship from the withdrawals of "seconds" from the retail market for shell eggs. We are, therefore, as provided by Section 19(3)(

b)

WORKERS EMPLOYED ON AGRICULTURAL HOLDINGS

England and Wales, June, 1963*

Agricultural Holdings†Regular Whole-time Male Workers (aged 20–64 years)All Workers (male and female regular, seasonal and temporary)‡
Per cent.Per cent.Per cent.
Agricultural holdings with:—
No workers54·3
No regular whole-time workers7·37·6
No regular whole-time males (20–64 years) but one or more other regular whole-time workers7·08·1
1 regular whole-time male worker (20–64 yrs.)15·720·018·9
2 regular whole-time male workers (20–64 yrs.)7·318·532·0
3 regular whole-time male workers (20–64 yrs.)3·212·3
4 regular whole-time male workers (20–64 yrs.)1·78·6
5 and over regular whole-time male workers (20–64 yrs.)3·540·633·4
Totals (per cent.)100·0100·0100·0
Totals (Number of holdings or workers)(335,684)(263,182)(496,251)

* Excluding the occupier, his wife, dornest c servants and children still at school

† Exceeding one acre in extent.
‡Including 56,061 regular whole-time male workers under 20 years old and 12,478 aged 65 years and over.

Pesticides (Labelling)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of pesticides on sale to the public will be covered by the labelling of active ingredients proposed under the Voluntary Safety Precautions Scheme.

Members of the industrial associations who are parties to the Pesticides Safely Precautions Scheme supply about 95 per cent of the output of the Agricultural Marketing Act, 1958, referring its Report to the Committee of Investigation.

Agricultural Holdings (Workers)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give the figures for June, 1963, showing the percentage of agricultural holdings in England and Wales with no workers, with no regular whole-time workers, with no whole-time male workers but one or more regular workers, with one regular whole-time male worker, two or four regular whole-time male workers and five or more regular whole-time male workers, respectively; and what proportion each of these groups represents of all regular whole-time male workers, and of all workers in the industry.

The following is the information: of the pesticides covered by the Scheme. Judging from past experience, I have no reason to anticipate that non-member firms will not also observe the new labelling provisions.

Agricultural Workers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what the average weekly value of the payments in kind received by adult male farm workers was for the year ended September, 1963; what percentage of their total earnings was represented by their payments in kind; what the percentage was of those workers who received payments in kind, such as cottages, potatoes, and board and lodging, and the percentage of farm workers not in receipt of any premium above the minimum wage.

In the year ended 30th September, 1963, the average value of payments in kind received by adult male hired regular whole-time farm workers in England and Wales was evaluated at 6s. 8d. a week. This represents 2·8 per cent. of their average weekly earnings. 49 per cent. of these workers received payment in the form of cottages, 23 per cent. in the form of milk, 5 per cent. in the form of board and lodging, 6 per cent. as potatoes and 5 per cent. in various other ways. Some workers received more than one type of payment in kind.

June,1963Year ended September, 1963
Numbers of workersPercentage distributionAverage Premium per weekPercentage excess of wages received over statutory wagesPercentage who received no premium
ThousandsPercentages.d.
General workers112·941136726
Bailiffs and foremen18·06577312
Cowmen19·172841210
Other stockmen21·382391212
Tractor drivers35·513159714
Market gardeners17·262001119
Ancillary workers5·223111156
Family workers*46·517n.a.n.a.n.a.
Note
*Including junior partners but excluding family workers covered by the occupational groups.

Net Farming Income

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give figures at both current prices and constant prices showing the aggregate net farming income in the United Kingdom, the amount which farmers should have In this period 19 per cent. of the adult male hired regular whole-time workers did not receive a premium above the minimum wage rates.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will state the numbers and the percentage distribution of regular whole-time male agricultural workers as at June, 1963, in the following categories, namely, general workers, bailiffs and foremen, cowmen, other stockmen, tractor drivers, market gardeners, ancillary workers, and family workers; and if he will show for each group the average premium paid per worker, the percentage excess of wages received over statutory wages, and the percentage in each group who received no premium at all in the year ended September, 1963.

The information relates to adult male regular whole-time workers in England and Wales. No information is available about the wages, earnings, or premiums of family workers.appropriated to cover the excess of replacement over original costs of certain assets, and expenditure on labour, rent, and interest, machinery, foodstuffs, fertilisers, and other costs of production, for the average of the three years 1954–55 to 1956–57 and for the years 1961–62 to 1963–64, inclusive.

The information is as follows:

1. IN TERMS OF CURRENT PRICESYears beginning 1st June
Average of the three years1954–55 to1956–571961–621962–631963–64*
£million
Aggregate farming net income335431445½406 ½
Amount which farmers should have appropriated to cover the excess of replacement over original costs of certain assets2525½2827
Expenditure on:
Labour275298307310½
Rent and interest78116120127½
Machinery1872194220½220
Feedingstuffs335381½403400½
Fertilisers85½120½108½119
Other costs151½197½203213
2. IN TERMS OF CONSTANT AVERAGE 1954–55 TO 1956–57 PRICES†
Aggregate farming net income335376378342½
The information on this basis for the other categories is not available.
* Forecast as at mid-January, 1964, four months before the end of the year in question, and therefore subject to revision in the light of further information.
† Derived by adjusting the figures in terms of current prices by the Consumer Price Index.

Agriculture (Output)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give figures of gross and net output of agriculture in the United Kingdom at current prices and at constant prices for

GROSS AND NET OUT PUT OF AGRICULTURE (1) IN THE UNITED KINGDOM ATCURRENT PRICES AND AT CONSTANT (1954–57) PRICES (2)
£ million
Years beginning 1st JuneAverage 1954–55/ 1956–571961–621962–63(provisional)1963–64 (forecast)(5)
Gross output (3) at current prices1,499½1,7991,8531,824
Gross output (3) at 1954–57 prices1,5011,789½1,854½1,871
Net output (4) at current prices667802½830781½
Net output (4) at 1954–57 prices658768½823½833½
(1) The figures include estimated output from units under one acre.
(2) There are differences between the definitions of gross and net output (i) at current prices, and (ii) at constant prices. For the purpose of comparison the definitions at current prices and at constant prices have been brought as closely into line as possible, but there are still minor conceptual differences between the two series.
(3) Gross output is that portion of the total agricultural production which is sold off farms in the United Kingdom together with the quantity consumed in farm households, the figure so obtained being adjusted for the value of work already achieved, and increased by the value of miscellaneous grants and subsidies.
(4) Net output is (3) reduced by the cost of farmers' purchases of goods and services from outside the agricultural sector. (These include feedingstuffs, imported store animals, seeds, fertilisers, machinery, maintenance, etc., but not labour, rent and interest.)
(5) Forecast as at mid-January, 1964, four months before the end of the year in question, and therefore subject to revision in the light of further information.

the average of the three years 1954–55 to 1956–57, and for the years 1961–62 to 1963–64, inclusive.

The latest estimates, made for this year's Annual Review, are as follows:

Employment

Redundant Workers, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne

90.

asked the Minister of Labour what alternative employment his regional office has available for the 229 men who are to become unemployed in October when the Parsons Marine Turbine Co. Ltd., Newcastle-upon-Tyne, closes down.

91.

asked the Minister of Labour what steps he is taking to offset redundancy at Parson's Marine Turbine Co. Ltd., Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

I understand that about 100 men may become redundant at these works by October. In general, the prospects of finding alternative employment for them are reasonably good, but there may be difficulty in individual cases. The full facilities of our Department will be available to any who seek our help.

British Sanitary Pottery Manufacturers (Letter)

94.

asked the Minister of Labour what reply he has made to the letter addressed to the Prime Minister dated 23rd June by the Council of the British Sanitary Pottery Manufacturers concerning standards of hygiene in the United Kingdom; and what action he will take on the proposals made in the letter.

The reply to the Council of British Sanitary Pottery Manufacturers explains that the Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act requires washing facilities to be provided in places conveniently accessible to employed persons. The Minister has no power to require wash-basins to be placed adjacent to sanitary conveniences. He is satisfied that the regulations which he has just made require the provision of facilities on a reasonable scale. I am sending a copy of the reply to the hon. Member.

Stansted Airport (Aviation Traders)

95.

asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware that Aviation Traders are closing down one of the hangars at Stansted Airport in September, 1964, causing the redundancy of approximately 90 skilled maintenance workers; what alternative employment is available on the airport; and what action he is taking in the matter.

I am aware of the expected redundancy and I understand that the firm intends to offer jobs at other airports to these employees. Our local officers are in touch with the firm and hope to make arrangements in due course for the registration in advance of their discharge of all workpeople who desire our help. Although present indications are that there will be few opportunities of alternative work at Stansted Airport itself the level of labour demand in Bishop's Stortford and adjacent areas is high. Our local officers will ensure that all who register with them are informed of other vacancies without delay.

Sunderland

96.

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of boys entering apprenticeships in Sunderland for the years 1961, 1962, 1963, and 1964; and what percentage these figures represent of the total number of boys registered in that area.

The figures for the Sunderland Youth Employment Office area are as follows:

Number of boys entering apprenticeshipsAs a percentage of all boys entering first employment
July to December, 1961*54053·2
196297047·8
196357539·9
January to May, 196421837·5
* Local figures are 1961. not available prior to July,1969

99.

asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of disabled persons on the disabled persons register in Sunderland; and how many persons so registered are at present unemployed.

On 20th April, 1964, there were 2,927 registered disabled persons in Sunderland, of whom 447 were unemployed on 15th June, 1964.

Farm Workers

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give figures for 1950 and 1963 showing the numbers and percentages of male farm workers in Great Britain falling within the age groups of 15 to 19 years, 20 to 24, 25 to 34, 35 to

ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF MALE EMPLOYEES (EMPLOYED AND UNEMPLOYED) IN AGRICULTURE AND HORTICULTURE IN GREAT BRITAIN AT MID 1950 AND MID 1963
Age group
Thousands
Year15–1920–2425–3435–4445–5455–6465 and overTotal all ages
Mid 195082871361331047235649
12·6 per cent.13·4 per cent.21·0 per cent.20·5 per cent.16·0 per cent.11·1 per cent.5·4 per cent.100·0 per cent.
Mid 196370508074696620429
16·3 per cent.11·7 per cent.18·6 per cent.17·2 per cent.16·1 per cent.15·4 per cent.4·7 per cent.100·0 per cent.
Change 1950 to 1963−12−37−56−59−35−6−15−220
Percentage change in age age group 1950 to 1963−14·6 per cent.−42·5 per cent.−41·2 per cent.−44·4 per cent.−33·7 per cent.−8·3 per cent.−42·8 per cent.−33·9 per cent.
ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES (EMPLOYED AND UNEMPLOYED) N ALL INDUSTRIES AND SERVICES IN GREAT BRITAIN AT MID 1963
Males1,4471,4502,9343,1332,9012,41745814,740
Percentage each age group forms of total9·8 per cent.9·8 per cent.19·9 per cent.21·3 per cent.19·7 per cent.16·4 per cent.13·1 per cent.100·0 per cent.
Total Males and Females2,8732,4884,1694,7424,5493,43564422,900
Percentage each age group forms of total12·5 per cent.10·9 per cent.18·2 per cent.20·7 per cent.19·9 per cent.15·0 per cent.2·8 per cent.100·0 per cent.

Stockport

97.

asked the Minister of Labour how many registered unemployed there were in the county borough of Stockport during the years ended 31st May 1950, 1955, 1960, and 1964.

The county borough of Stockport is almost wholly within the area covered by Stockport Employment Exchange where the monthly average numbers of unemployed during the years ended May 1950, 1955, 1960 and 1964 were 672, 804, 1,223 and 1,427, respectively.

Defence Contracts (Employment)

98.

asked the Minister of Labour how many workers were employed in the arms industries on 31st June, 1964, as compared with 31st June, 1963.

44, 45 to 54, 55 to 64, and 65 years and over; what have been the changes in each group over the period; and what is the percentage distribution of the nation's total labour force within these age groups for 1963.

I regret that the information is not available. It is estimated that the numbers employed in manufacturing industry on defence contract work were 375,000 in May, 1963 and 363,000 in May, 1964.

School Leavers (Crook)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give the number of young people expected to leave school in the Crook, County Durham, juvenile employment exchange area this summer term; and what prospects of employment there are for them in the area.

About 230 boys and girls are expected to leave school in the Crook Youth Employment Office area this summer. I am hopeful that most of them will be able to obtain employment without undue difficulty. I am glad to say that none of the 127 boys and girls who left school at Easter was still registered for first employment at Mid-June.

North-West Durham

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give the latest numbers unemployed in the North-West Durham constituency at Crook, Durham, Employment Exchange for the Brandon area and at Consett Employment Exchange for the Langley Park, Lanchester, and Burnhope area; and what jobs are available for the unemployed in the area.

The following is the information:

Unemployment and unfilled vacancies at the Employment Exchanges whose areas fall wholly or partly within the Durham North-West constituency.
Employment ExchangeNumber Number of unemployed on 15th JuneNumber of unfilled vacancies on 10th June
Consett40386
Crook48359
Durham65363
Lanchester13890

Notes:

(1) The Durham North West constituency covers the whole of the Crook and Lanchester Employment Exchange areas and small parts of the Consett and Durham Employment Exchange areas.

(2) Brandon is in the Durham Employment Exchange area.

(3) Langley Park and Burnhope are in the Lanchester Employment Exchange area.

Household Expenditure

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give the latest available figures showing the average weekly expenditure for all households, and for households with an income of £10 to £15 a week, in rural, urban, and large urban areas under the following headings, namely, food, fuel and light, clothing, transport, and rented unfurnished accommodation; and if he will give figures for the average expenditure for all households in the country under the same headings.

The latest available expenditure details for households analysed by the required types of area are contained in Table 5 of the Family Expenditure Survey Report for 1960 and 1961, copies of which have been placed in the Library. No information is available on the household income groupings within these areas.

Food Prices, Rents, Rates And National Insurance

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will publish in HANSARD a table of figures giving details of how much in the £ sterling food prices, rents, rates, National Insurance contributions, and fuel prices have increased for each year since October, 1951.

For every £1 spent in October, 1951, the increases in food prices, rent and rates, the employee's share in the National Insurance Stamp and fuel and light prices between October, 1951, and the average for each of the years 1952 to 1963 are given in the table below. The figures relating to National Insurance contributions take no account of changes in benefits in the period. Standard rates have increased in the range from 125 to 163 per cent., depending on the benefit.

YearFoodRent and RatesEmployee's share of the National Insurance Stamp (men)*Fuel and Light
s.d.s.d.s.d.s.d.
19522158110
195334162730
1954311242740
1955593041155
19566114367711
195777627699
19588298175113
195985116190116
196083127190124
196188140202†144
196299161218†165
1963106181242†181
* Including the National Health Service contribution paid as part of the stamp.
† Based on the contributions of persons not contracted out, but excluding any graduated contribution.

Vietnam

100.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, as co-Chairman of the 1954 Geneva Conference, if, in view of recent statements of United States Government policy in regard to Indo-China, he will now propose to the Russian co-Chairman that they issue a joint invitation to the United States Government to adhere to the terms,mutatis mutandis, of the Agreement on Vietnam, and the Final Declaration of the Conference.

No. In view of the repeated violations of the 1954 Agreement on Vietnam by the authorities in the north, it would be more relevant to address an invitation to them to observe the terms of the Agreement which they signed.

101.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will ask the Russian co-Chairman of the 1954 Geneva Conference to join with him in requesting the International Control Commission for Vietnam to investigate the allegations of breaches of the Geneva Agreement and Declaration made by the North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese and United States authorities, and report urgently to the co-Chairmen; and whether he will propose a joint invitation to all parties, whether or not they adhered to the terms of the Agreement and Declaration in 1954, to provide the Commission with all the facilities necessary to an impartial investigation.

No.The duties of the International Control Commission are clearly laid down on the Cease-Fire Agreement on Vietnam and it does not require an injunction from the co-Chairmen to fulfil its functions.It is well known that it is the authorities in the north which have effectively prevented the International Control Commission from conducting impartial investigations.

Turkish Prime Minister (Talks)

102.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement about his recent talks with the Turkish Prime Minister.

Monsieur Inonu visited London from 27th to 30th June as the guest of Her Majesty's Government. We were glad of this opportunity to have talks with him about the problem of Cyprus. As regards the outcome of those discussions, I have nothing to add to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Easing-ton (Mr. Shinwell) on 2nd July.

Council Of Europe

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to Opinion No. 41 on the budget of the Council of Europe for 1965, which was adopted by the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe on 23rd April, 1964; and whether Her Majesty's Government will give support to it, particularly in regard to the administrative strengthening of the Office of the Clerk of the Assembly, and the institution of a pension scheme for members of the staff.

The attitude of Her Majesty's Government to the recommendations contained in Opinion No. 41 will be decided in the light of the examination of the Opinion by the Committee of Ministers' Deputies at Strasbourg, which has not yet been completed.

European Civil Service

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to Recommendation No. 395, on a European Civil Service, which was adopted by the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe on 24th April, 1964; and what action Her Majesty's Government will take on it.

Her Majesty's Government are represented at the Intergovernmental Conference on a European Civil Service, to which Recommendation No. 395 refers. We approve the purposes for which the Conference was convened and are doing out best to ensure its success.

Congo

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many countries are now in default in their contributions to United Nations operations in the Congo; what countries have refused to pay; and what is the total amount owed towards the campaign expenses.

On 30th June, 1964, 64 countries had not yet paid all of their assessments in respect of the United Nations military operation in the Congo for 1963 and earlier years.Of these countries, the following Governments, as far as I am aware, have objections of principle which have caused them to refuse payments:

Albania.Mongolia.
Bulgaria.Poland.
Byelorussian S.S.R.Rumania.
Cuba.South Africa.
Czechoslovakia.Ukraine S.S.R.
France.U.S.S.R.
Hungary.
The total amount of arrears due in respect of the Congo assessment for 1963 and preceding years is $82,948,912 (about £29·6 million). In respect of 1964 assessments for the Congo, $6,587,325 (about £2·35 million) has not yet been paid.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the total financial assistance given by Great Britain to the United Nations operations in the Congo.

The total financial assistance given by Great Britain to United Nations operations in the Congo amounts to £9,647,821. This includes a sum of £178,571 which has been pledged for United Nations civilian operations in 1964 but which has not yet been paid.

Public Building And Works

Palace Of Westminster (Lavatories)

104.

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works how many lavatories there are in the Palace of Westminster which have no hand washing facilities.

There are 147 lavatories in the Palace of Westminster, 16 of which have no hand washing facilities, although 8 of these have access to basins nearby. Plans are in hand to modernise two of these 16 lavatories to include wash basins, one this year and one next year.

South Arabian Federation

Petition

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations and the Colonies whether he will now make a statement on the petition from the Radfan tribe to the authorities of the South Arabian Federation; and whether he will place a copy or an English translation of this petition in the Library of the House of Commons.

I am informed that the authorities of the Federation of South Arabia have not at any time received any petition from the Radfan tribes. I have however been able to trace an unsigned petition which may have emanated from one of the tribes in the area addressed to the Amir of Dhala. If this is what the hon. Member has in mind I would be grateful if he would let me know and I will try to obtain further information.

Education And Science

Educational Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will publish in HANSARD a table of figures giving the real growth in expenditure on the educational services since October, 1951, on the basis of allowing for the fall in the purchasing value of the £ sterling, the rise in prices of foods and services, the rise in teachers' salaries, and the growth of the national product.

Between 1952–53 and 1962–63, the total educational expenditure of public authorities in Great Britain, including expenditure on school meals and milk, rose from £479 million to £1,277 million or from 3·4 per cent. of the gross national product in the United Kingdom to 5·1 per cent. It is not practicable to provide exact information on the growth of educational expenditure in terms of constant prices, but the best estimate possible at present suggests a rise of about 75 per cent. over the 10-year period. Of this increase about half is attributable to an increase in the number of pupils and students, and about half to improvements in the standard of service provided.

Prototype Fast Breeder Reactor

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in view of the fact that 160 men have been made redundant at Windscale and Calder Hall, if he will now arrange to build a fast breeder reactor there, because of the successful experiments already carried out at this plant for this type of reactor.

The Atomic Energy Authority has not yet made proposals to the Government for a prototype fast reactor, but I understand that it is considering the technical, organisational and financial suitability of possible sites. When the time comes for the Government to take a decision on the construction and siting of such a reactor, the claims of all suitable sites will be fully considered.

Primary Schools, Cumberland

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many schemes have been submitted to him by the Cumberland Education Authority for the replacement of unsatisfactory primary schools; how many of the classes in the schools concerned contain more than 30 pupils; how many of these are in industrial areas; and by what date the new primary schools will be completed.

The authority proposed 9 projects for the 1965–68 major programmes which would result in the replacement of existing primary accommodation. The schools had 23 classes with more than 30 pupils. Three projects have been approved for the years 1965–67, all in urban areas. No decision is being made at present about the programme for 1967–68. I cannot forecast exactly when the approved projects will be completed, but it normally takes about 18 months to build a primary school.

Unesco

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many meetings in each of the last three years have been held by each of the following advisory committees to the United Kingdom Commission on the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation, namely, education, natural sciences, social science, comparative law, arts, humanities, museums, libraries, East-West Major Project, mass communications, and the Welsh Committee.

The number of meetings is as follows:

Committe1961196219631964 to (date)
Arts1101
Comparative Law2311
East/West major project1201
Education1211
Humanities1101
Libraries1101
Mass communication1111
Museums (I.C.O.M.)2111
Natural Science1131
Social Sciences1221
Welsh1011
In addition various panels of these committees met during this period.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how often the United Kingdom Commission on the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation has met in each of the last three years.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science which corporate bodies now constitute the United Kingdom National Commission for the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation; and how many officers from his department form its secretariat.

Members of the National Commission are invited to serve in their individual capacity and not as representatives of corporate bodies. The Secretary and two Assistant Secretaries of the Commission are officers of my Department.

Shropshire

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many schools have been built and how many school places provided annually in Shropshire between the years 1951–52 and 1963–64, inclusive.

The information is as follows:

SHROPSHIRE
YearNew schools completed*New places taken into use†
PrimarySecondaryTotalPrimarySecondaryTotal
1951–527181,2402401,480
1952–536171,5204151,935
1953–5421328045325
1954–551231201,0501,170
1955–56520520
1956–57221,1605001,660
1957–58882001,8102,010
1958–59553602,1452,505
1959–601233208701,190
1960–613149605551,515
1961–624151,2203901,610
1962–633254002,0102,410
1963–641234209601,380
TOTAL3026568,72010,99019,710
* Including first instalments of schools.
† Major and minor programmes, including extensions, adaptations and remodelling.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what the education expenditure in Shropshire was for the years 1951–52 and 1963–64, respectively.

Education expenditure in Shropshire in 1951–52 was £1·83 million, excluding school meals and milk. The estimate for 1963–64 is £5·88 million.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of children in Shropshire are now accommodated in school accommodation built since the war.

Post-war school places in Shropshire (excluding HORSA accommodation) provided for about 37 per cent. of the maintained primary school population and 59 per cent. of the secondary school population in January, 1964.

National Finance

Houses, Pwllypant (Rating)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why a group of new houses at Pwllypant, Caerphilly, is without valuation for rating purposes after two years' occupation.

The valuation officer was not notified of these houses by the Caerphilly Urban District Council and because of pressure of work he did not find out about them independently. Steps are now being taken to have the houses valued for rating.

Home Department

Vehicles (Road Fund Licences)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give the number of vehicles which were observed by the police failing to display a road fund licence in accordance with the law during the months of April, May and June; and what action has been taken or is intended against those responsible for breaking the law.

I understand from the Commissioner of Police that this information cannot be obtained without a disproportionate amount of work at every station in the Metropolitan Police District, which would not be justifiable having regard to current pressures.

Official Report (Bound Volumes)

asked the Secretary to the Treasury whether he is aware that the bound editions of HANSARD are now considerably in arrears, and that no general index has been published for over 12 months; and whether he will expedite publication so as to ensure that indices at least are published before the General Election.

The current very heavy load of Parliamentary printing has delayed the production of bound volumes of HANSARD, which are at present being published about six months after the end of the period they cover. By the end of the summer recess the interval should be reduced to the more normal four months.The Index to the bound volumes, which appears annually, is about to be published for the 1962–63 Session. For subsequent debates the weekly index is available.

Industry, Trade And Regional Development

North-West Durham

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, Trade and Regional Development when the North-West Durham constituency will receive the benefits of the Government's plan for the North-East to bring industry to Lanchester, Brandon, Willington, and Crook industrial sites, designated by the county planning authority for industrial development.

RATES OF RETIREMENT PENSIONS; AVERAGE EARNINGS OF MEN; AND THE LEVEL OF RETAIL PRICES AT SELECTED DATES SHOWING PERCENTAGE INCREASE BETWEEN THOSE DATES
Retirement pensionRetail Prices†Percentage increases between each date
SingleMarriedAverage earnings (men)*Retirement pensionAverage Earnings (men)*Retail Prices†
SingleMarried
£s.d.£s.d.£s.d.
October, 1946160220609100
October, 1951110020086012915193729
October, 196337659016141118712511810245
* Based on Ministry of Labour's inquiries into earnings of manual workers in manufacturing and some of the principal non-manufacturing industries.
† Based on the Retail Prices Index, the Interim Index of Retail Prices which preceded it, and for the period prior to June, 1947, the Cost of Living Index.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if he will compare the increases in the rates of retirement pension with the increases in average earnings and in the prices of the types of goods and services used by retired persons, such as rents, rates, food,

Firms contemplating setting up in the North-East are regularly invited to consider these sites amongst others, but the final choice of site must rest with the firm. The Government's aim of creating more jobs in the North-East is succeeding. For example, in the Durham employment exchange area, which includes Brandon, there are nearly 400 new jobs in prospect, in the Stanley and Lanchester area 440 and in Crook and Willington at least 400.

Pensions And National Insurance

Retirement Pensions

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if he will compare the increases in the rates of retirement pension with the increases in average earnings and in prices between October, 1946, and October, 1951, and October, 1951, and October, 1963, respectively.

The comparison is set out in the following table:clothing, heat, light and fuel, and transport, between October, 1946, and October, 1951, and October, 1951, and October, 1963, respectively.

The earliest date from which a comparison can be made is June, 1947, when the Interim Index of Retail Prices was introduced; and I regret that comparable figures are not available for

INCREASE IN RETIREMENT PENSIONS AND AVERAGE EARNINGS, AND IN THE PRICES OF CERTAIN GOODS AND SERVICES, BETWEEN JUNE, 1947, AND OCTOBER, 1951, AND BETWEEN OCTOBER. 1951 AND OCTOBER, 1963, RESPECTIVELY
Percent.
PeriodStandard rate of retirement pensionAverage earnings (men)*Retail Prices†
Single personMarried coupleAll itemsFoodClothing and footwearFuel and light
June, 1947October, 195115193729434530
October 1951 October, 196312511810245521189
* On the basis of the Ministry of Labour's half-yearly inquiries into the average earnings of manual workers in manufacturing and some of the principal non-manufacturing industries.
† On the basis of the Retail Prices Index and the Interim Index of Retail Prices which preceded it.

National Assistance

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if he will tabulate for the Oldham Assistance Board's areas details of wage-stop cases, showing separately the number of families and average amount of the wage stop in respect of the families with 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 and over children, respectively.

I regret that this information is not readily available for particular localities.

Pneumoconiosis Medical Panel, Sheffield

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if he will state the number of insured persons who attended the Pneumoconiosis Medical Panel at Sheffield for examination arising out of claims for benefit in 1963; and what was the distance from their homes to Sheffield and Doncaster, respectively.

About 7,000. As regards the second part of the Question, I regret that information is not available as the Sheffield panel serves claimants living in a wide area which includes the East and West Ridings of Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Northamptonshire, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire and Rutland.

the two periods in respect of rent and rates, or in respect of transport.

Following are the figures:

Wireless And Television

Independent Television, Wales

asked the Postmaster-General why there has been a delay in carrying out the Independent Television Authority's plans for the erection of five small satellite Independent Television Authority stations in different parts of rural Wales; and whether, in view of the fact that large areas of rural Wales cannot receive any Independent Television Authority programmes, he will make arrangements for these satellite stations to be built without further delay.

This is a matter, in the first place, for the I.T.A.: It has so far made no such proposals to me.

Telephone Service

Repaired Lines

asked the Postmaster-General if he will issue a general instruction to all telephone exchanges and supervisors that where a telephone has been out of order, the subscriber is informed by call as soon as it is in working order again.

There is already an instruction that this should be done when the subscriber would otherwise not know that the line was back in working order. I am sorry if it has been overlooked on occasions. I am issuing a reminder to those concerned.