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Volume 703: debated on Friday 11 December 1964

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday, 11th December, 1964

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Anglo-Soviet Agreement (Exchange Of Information)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what agreement has been reached with the Soviet Government on the exchange of information on agricultural scientific research; and whether he will make a statement.

I am afraid that I cannot yet add to the reply I gave the right hon. Member on 18th November.

Milk

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what variation existed between the price of Channel Islands milk and other milk in 1954; and what variation now exists.

In 1954, the maximum price of Channel Islands milk—other than farm-bottled—was 1d. per pint higher than ordinary pasteurised milk; today it is 1½d. per pint higher.

Channel Islands (Milk)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, whether he will now decontrol the price of Channel Islands milk, and allow it to find its own level in the market.

Farne Islands Seals

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the cost of the recent cull of seals on the Farne Islands; to whom the payments were made; and what are the future plans of his Department in regard to the seals on the Fame Islands.

Final figures are not available but the estimated net cost, excluding salaries and travelling expenses of the Ministry officials, after taking into account the payments due from the firm which collected the carcases, is of the order of £1,200.The payments will be made to the B.E.A. for the hire of a helicopter and to a local boatman.

With regard to the last part of the Question I have nothing to add to my reply of 26th November to the hon. Member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, West (Mr. Popplewell).

Sheep Dips

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheres and Food what alternative preparation of equal effectiveness can be used by sheep farmers in place of the dieldrin preparation; and what is its cost and availability.

Several formulations to replace dieldrin in sheep dips are in various stages of trial and one is due to be marketed very soon. I have no information as to the price at which any of these formulations may be marketed.

Swine Fever

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many outbreaks of swine fever there have been, month by month, since January, 1964, up to the latest convenient date; and what has been the cost of the slaughter of pigs in implementing this policy.

:From January, 1964, until the end of November 367 outbreaks of swine fever were confirmed in Great Britain, as follows:

January35
February44
March72
April46
May35
June29
July15
August12
September29
October28
November22
From the introduction of the eradication policy on 11th March, 1963, to the end of December, 1963, 1,153 outbreaks were confirmed.The amount of compensation for pigs slaughtered since the introduction of the eradication policy is approximately £4,885,000. Of this, £324,740 was paid in the 1962–63 financial year, £3,630,992 was paid in the 1963–64 financial year, and approximately £929,000 relates to the current financial year.

Subsidies (Late Claims)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many claims for cereal deficiencies, ploughing grants, hill cow subsidies and calf subsidies have been refused by his Department since 1963 up to the latest convenient date, owing to non-receipt by his Department before the due closing date; what is the amount of subsidy consequently lost to the agricultural industry; and if he will make a statement regarding future policy.

Figures for the numbers of late claims rejected in 1964 are not yet available, but I will send them to the hon. Member as soon as they are ready.I can, however, give the numbers of late claims rejected in 1963, in relation to the total number of claims; these are:

Total claims receivedTotal late claims receivedLate claims received
Cereals140,000350183
Ploughing grants103,000731454
Hills Cow subsidy15,00020777
There is no closing date for the calf subsidy.Records of the amount of money the applicants would have received if they had fulfilled the conditions of the schemes are not kept, and could not be obtained without a disproportionate effort.I am reviewing the conditions governing acceptance of late claims, to satisfy myself that they are just and reasonable taking account of both the number of applicants whose claims are late and the overwhelming number of applicants who succeed in getting their claims in on time.

Zambia

British South Africa Company (Mineral Royalties)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what is the position regarding payment of the British Government's ex-gratia contribution to the settlement of the question of the mineral royalties in Zambia, formerly owned by the British South Africa Company.

Provision for this payment will be sought formally in the winter Supplementary Estimates. Should it be necessary to make payment before these Estimates are approved recourse will be had to the Civil Contingencies Fund.

Economic Affairs

Railway Communications, North-East (Consultation)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, in view of the importance of communications in development plans for the North-East region, what steps he has taken to ensure that adequate consultation takes place between his Department, local authorities and British Railways before closure proposals are submitted.

As my hon. Friend has already been told, the North-East Development Group meets British Railways regularly to discuss railway communications in the North-East. As my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport announced on 4th November, he has arranged for the Railways Board to give him particulars of passenger closure proposals before they are published, so that he may consider whether any particular case is clearly unacceptable at the outset. My Department will be fully consulted at this stage. In August, 1963, the local authorities, through their associations, were invited to inform the Minister of Transport, and any other Ministers affected, of their views on the non-hardship aspects of individual passenger closure proposals. On hardship matters, their representations are made to the Transport Users Consultative Committees.

Ministers Of State For Foreign Affairs

asked the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs if he will state the functions and terms of appointment of each of the four Ministers of State in the Foreign Office and the cost to Her Majesty's Government arising from each of those appointments.

My noble Friend, Lord Caradon, who receives a salary of £3,750, is the permanent United Kingdom representative at the United Nations in New York. My noble Friend Lord Chalfont, who also receives a salary of £3,750, deals expressly with disarmament. My hon. Friend the Member for Ogmore (Mr. Padley) and I, who at present act without salary or payment, have general responsibilities within the Foreign Office. In as far as there are terms attached to our appointments, they are those which apply to all members of Her Majesty's Government.

Home Department

"Murder" (Tables)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will bring up to the end of the year 1963 the figures given in the principal tables of the Home Office report "Murder" published in 1961.

Nine of the main tables in this publication have been enlarged to cover murders known to the police up to the end of 1963 and are reproduced below, together with an explanatory note.

Explanatory Note

1. The figures below have been compiled on the same basis as those in the Home Office Research Unit Report "Murder" (H.M.S.O. 1961), and the tables have been numbered to correspond with those in that report, to which page references are given. For purposes of comparison with previous years, convictions of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility have been included in the same way as in the Report.

2.

Table 1

(Murder, p. 4).

Table 3

(Murder, p. 6).

Table 4

(Murder, p. 6).

Table 5

(Murder, p. 7).

The numbers of deaths finally recorded as murder which became known to the police in 1961, 1962 and 1963 showed only variations within the range that might be expected. The numbers of cases of diminished responsibility were unusually high in 1962 and 1963. In 1963 the high figure of 56 cases was balanced by a fall in the number of deaths eventually found not to be murder on some other ground. Although all diminished responsibility cases are included as murder for purposes of com- parison with earlier years, these will include cases which might have resulted in convictions for other manslaughter but for the availability of this special defence under the Homicide Act, 1957; this defence may now he increasingly used in place of others which would result in a reduction to manslaughter, such as provocation.

3. The number of suspects who committed suicide was unusually high in 1962, but reverted to normal in 1963. In 1960, 1961 and 1962 the number of suspects charged was greater than the associated number of victims, while in previous years the reverse was generally true; but in 1963 there was a return to the previous pattern.

4. Table 6 (Murder, p. 8).

As before, cases have been classified as "capital" and "non-capital" by the circumstances of the offence; the figures include cases in which the suspect committed suicide or was found to be mentally abnormal and was therefore not convicted of murder. The proportion of "capital" murders was slightly lower than usual in 1962 and 1963, but the fluctuations are no greater than might be expected.

5. Table 10 (Murder, p. 10).

The figures relate, as before, to convictions for capital murders which became known to the police in the year stated, even if the final conclusion was reached only in a later year. As before, convictions for capital murder have been analysed by type. Murders in the course of furtherance of theft amounted to 4 in 1961, 1 in 1962, and 2 in 1963. There have been similarly low figures in previous years, except for 1960. and no trend is apparent. Murder by shooting provided the usual 1 or 2 cases a year among those convicted. Most murders by shooting are, however, done by those who commit suicide or are mentally abnormal (Murder, paragraph 56).

6.Table 25(Murder, p. 25).
Table 26(Murder, p. 26).

There was a continuation of the tendency for diminished responsibility to replace insanity as a defence. The proportion of mentally abnormal offenders was unusually high in 1963, owing to the large number of cases of diminished responsibility. Table 26 shows that both before and after the Homicide Act the proportion of offenders actually convicted of murder remained at 31 per cent.

7. Table 41 (Murder, p. 38).

The proportion of non-capital murderers with previous convictions was rather higher in recent years than previously, and the proportion of capital murderers with previous convictions was rather lower.

Conclusion

The inclusion of three more years has not materially altered the picture provided by "Murder", except for the increase in verdicts of diminished responsibility, which may possibly be replacing other verdicts of manslaughter. The proportion of capital murders has not changed appreciably.

TABLE 1
FINALLY ADJUSTED NUMBERS OF MURDERS KNOWN TO THE POLICE, AND NUMBER OF OFFENCES REDUCED TO MANSLAUGHTER BY REASON OF DIMINISHED RESPONSIBILITY UNDER S. 2 OF THE HOMICIDE ACT 1957
No. of victimsNo. per million of homo population (a) of England and Wales
Murders. 2 ManslaughterTotalMurderMurder and s. 2 Manslaughter
1931–10annual average1301303·23·2
1941–50152152

*

*

1951–551371373·13·1
19561501503·43·4
1957151231743·33·9
1958125281532·83·4
1959141201613·13·5
1960135311663·03·7
1961130291592·83·4
1962142371793·03·8
1963133561892·84·0

* No figure for home population is available for the war years, since this represents persons actually living in the country at the time.

TABLE 3
COMPARISONS BETWEEN DEATHS PROVISIONALLY AND FINALLY RECORDED AS DUE TO MURDER
Deaths provisionally recorded as murderDeaths found not to be murder excl. s. 2 cases)Deaths found to be manslaughter under s. 2 (diminished responsibility)Deaths finally recorded as murder
No.Per cent.No.Per cent.No.Per cent.No.Per cent.
1952180100·03921·714178·3
1953174100·03419·514080·5
1954166100·02112·714587·3
1955152100·01912·513387·5
1956179100·02916·215083·8
1957224100·05022·32310·315167·4
1958184100·03116·92815·212567·9
1959192100·03116·22010·414173·4
1960217100·05123·53114·313562·2
1961214100·05525·72913·613060·7
1962238100·05924·83715·514259·7
1963225100·03616·05624·913359·1

TABLE 4
COMPARISON BETWEEN DEATHS PROVISIONALLY AND FINALLY RECORDED AS DUE TO MURDER BEFORE AND AFTER THE HOMICIDE ACT 1957
Before Homicide Act: 1st January, 1952, to 20th March, 1957After Homicide Act: 21st March, 1957, to 31st December, 1963
No.Annual AveragePercent.No.Annual AveragePercent.
Deaths provisionally recorded as murder8881701001,457215100
Deaths found not to be murder or manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility (s. 2)1502916·93054520·9
Deaths finally recorded as murder or man-slaughter by reason of diminished responsibility (s. 2) Murder73514082·893113763·9
S. 2 Manslaughter310·32213315·2
Total73814183·11,15217079·1

TABLE 5
NUMBER OF VICTIMS RELATED TO NUMBERS OF SUSPECTS
Deaths provisionally recorded as murderMurders not cleared upDeath found not to be murder or s. 2 manslaughterMurders cleared up (including s. 2 manslaughter)
No proceedings takenProceedings taken
No. of victimsNo. of victimsNo. of victimsNo. of victimsNo. of suspects who committed suicideNo. of suspects who died or were detained in mental hospitalNo. of victimsNo. of suspects
195218083948368576
19531741034533727766
19541661021593817672
19551521019463217770
1956179112956398385
19572241750543910395
19581841531463829289
19591921131503510097
19602179514539112126
1961214115542331106107
1962238135958452108112
1963225183647351124122
Before Homicide Act (1.1.52 to 20.3.57): Annual Average17092952368074
After Homicide Act (21.3..57 to 31.12.63): Annual Average21514454938107108

TABLE 6
MURDERS KNOWN TO THE POLICE TOGETHER WITH OFFENCES REDUCED TO MANSLAUGHTER BY REASON OF DIMINISHED RESPONSIBILITY
ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL OFFENCES
CapitalNon-capitalTotal
No.Per cent.No.Per cent.No.Per cent.
19521712·112487·9141100·0
19531712·112387·9140100·0
19542215·212384·8145100·0
19551511·311888·7133100·0
19563019·912080·0150100·0
19572313·215186·8174100·0
19581912·413487·6153100·0
19592314·313885·7161100·0
19603118·713581·3166100·0
19612012·613987·4159100·0
19622111·715888·3179100·0
19632211·616788·4189100·0
Before Homicide Act (1st January, 1952 to 20th March, 1957): Annual Average2014·412185·6141100·0
After Homicide Act (21st March, 1957 to 31st December, 1963): Annual Average2313·514786·5170100·0

TABLE 10
CONVICTIONS FOR CAPITAL MURDER AND SIMILAR CONVICTIONS BEFORE THE HOMICIDE ACT
Convictions for capital murder under the Homicide Act 1957
S. 5(a)S. 5(b)S. 5(c)S. 5(d)S. 5(e)
Murder in the course or furtherance of theftMurder by shootingMurder in the course of resisting arrestMurder of policeman in course of dutyMurder of prison officer in course of duty
1957Executed21
Reprieved11
H.M.P.1
Total42
1958Executed41
Reprieved1
Total51
1959Executed211
Reprieved1
Total311
1960Executed61
Reprieved:11
H.M.P.2
Total911
1961Executed22
Reprieved1
H.M.P.1
Total42
1962Executed11
Total11
1963Executed2
Reprieved2
Total22
Similar Convictions for murder before the Act
1955Executed11
Reprieved1
Total21
1956Reprieved45
H.M.P.11
Total56
1957Reprieved21
Total21

TABLE 25
DISPOSAL OF SUSPECTS IN CASES FINALLY CLASSIFIED AS MURDER OR AS MANSLAUGHTER BY REASON OF DIMINISHED RESPONSIBILITY
Date at which crime became known to PoliceCommitted suicideInsaneConvicted of murder andConvicted of manslaughter under s. 2Acquitted or dischargedOtherTotal
ExecutedImprisonedH.M.P. *
19553241914151103
19563930314164124
19573920332120163134
19583819520127163129
195935254401198132
19603922736330271165
19613319434227211141
19624515240233202159
19633512233152212158
Before Homicide Act (1st January, 1955 to 20th March, 1957)787395553226251
After Homicide Act (21st March, 1957 to 31st December, 1963257130272251120512811994

* Persons under 18 ordered to be detained during Her Majesty's Pleasure.

TABLE 26
CATEGORIES OF OFFENDER AND ANNUAL AVERAGES
NUMBER OF OFFENDERS
Date at which crime became known to policeCommitted suicideInsaneConvicted of manslaughter under s. 2Convicted and sentenced for murderTotal
Before Homicide Act (1.1.55 to 20.3.57):
Number7873369223
Percent35·032·71·430·9100·0
Annual Average3533(1)31100
After Homicide Act(21.3.57to 31.12.63):
Number257130205263855
Per cent.30·015·224·030·8100·0
Annual Average38193039126

TABLE 41
TYPES OF PREVIOUS CONVICTIONS AMONG MEN CONVICTED OF CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL MURDER (SINCE THE HOMICIDE ACT, 1957)
Capital murderNon-capital murder
NumberPer cent.NumberPer cent.
Previous offences:
Sexual12·5136·0
Violent.615·04822·3
Both37·573·3
All offences against the person1025·06831·6
Offences against property only1947·56228 8
No previous convictions1127·58539·6
Total40100·0215100·0

Employment

Swansea

asked the Minister of Labour how many disabled people are registered for, but unable to find, employment in Swansea.

On 9th November the number of registered disabled persons registered as unemployed at the Swansea Employment Exchange and Youth Employment Bureau was 329.

asked the Minister of Labour what proportion of workers is employed in manufacturing, and what proportion in service trades, in Swansea; and how these figures compare with national figures.

The following table gives the position at mid-1963 the latest date for which figures are available.

AreaManufacturing IndustriesService Industries
Per cent.Per cent.
Swansea Employment Exchanges25·373·6
Great Britain38·256·3

asked the Minister of Labour how many, and what proportion of Swansea school leavers obtained apprenticeships this year; and how these figures compared with the national proportion.

BoysGirls
NumberPer cent.NumberPer cent.
Swansea21220·6333·8
Great Britain110,72936·616,2795·8

Pensions And National Insurance

National Assistance

asked the Minister of Penions and National Insurance on what assumptions regarding the number of people eligible for National Assistance and the amounts they will be paid her estimates of the total cost of increasing national assistance rates were based.

The estimate of the cost of the proposed increases in National Assistance rates given in the Explanatory Memorandum (Cmnd. 2522) published with the draft National Assistance (Determination of Need) Amendment Regulations, 1964, is, as stated in the memorandum, related to existing cases. As for assumptions about future numbers, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 8th December.

Post Office

New Office, Blyth

asked the Postmaster-General what progress has been made with the new post office at Blyth; and what are the prospects of its being put into use at an early date.

The new public counter is expected to be ready during February, 1965, and the sorting office about a month later. I am arranging for my hon. Friend to be kept informed of progress.An additional temporary office is being brought into use during Christmas.

Transport

River Mersey, Stockport (Fencing)

asked the Minister of Transport what progress has so far been achieved in his consultations with the Mersey River Board and the Borough of Stockport to provide effective fencing along the Gorsey Bank stretch of the River Mersey at Stockport and thus give reasonable protection to the residents and particularly to school children.

I have not engaged in any such consultations, nor am I aware that I have any responsibility in this matter. I have, however, written to my hon. Friend.

National Finance

General Election (Cost)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the estimated cost to public funds involved in the holding of the General Election.

North-East (Government Bookshop)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the future development in the North-East, if he will place a retail sales branch of Her Majesty's Stationery Office in the region.

The present demand for official publications in the North-East would not justify the opening of a Government Bookshop there, but developments in the region will be kept under review by Her Majesty's Stationery Office.

Corporation And Capital Gains Taxes

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what calculation he has made of the reduction in the cost of the investment allowance and other capital allowances that will result from the arrangements for a corporation tax;(2) what calculation he has made of the loss of net income, if any, that will be suffered by charitable and similar organisations as a result of the introduction of a corporation tax on the profits of companies;(3) whether the capital gains tax will provide for the level of tax to be related to the period for which the assets are held before realisation;(4) whether, in order to avoid double taxation, in all cases where the overseas tax paid by a corporation exceeds the amount it is liable to pay in corporation tax, he will arrange for the excess to be offset in computing the tax liability of shareholders on dividends distributed, or otherwise.

Wales

Local Authority Areas (White Paper)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he intends to publish a White Paper showing Her Majesty's Government's proposals for reconsidering the functions and boundaries of local authority areas.

These matters are being carefully considered, and in due course I hope to publish a White Paper.

Council For Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are Her Majesty's Government's proposals regarding the future functions of the Council for Wales.

I shall review the position of the Council in the light of the new economic planning machinery that is to be created. For the time being I have asked that the Council should continue the work it is already doing under its original terms of reference.