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Volume 713: debated on Tuesday 25 May 1965

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 25th May, 1965

Coal

Coal Supplies (Quality)

3.

asked the Minister of Power if he will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the National Coal Board to take special steps to improve the quality and cleanliness of coal supplied for commercial use.

No. The National Coal Board does everything possible to maintain quality of coal as it leaves the pits.

Private Commercial Undertakings (Acquisition)

8.

asked the Minister of Power what change has been made in the policy of the National Coal Board regarding the acquisition of private commercial undertakings.

I cannot usefully for the Board, which is aware of the policy of the Government not to place unnecessary restrictions on the activities of the nationalised industries.

Sales

asked the Minister of Power how he arrived at his calculations that his proposed short-term measures will enable the coal industry to sell between 4 million and 7 million tons more coal during 1965–66.

This is a matter add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Peyton) on 15th April.

Mines And Quarries Act, 1954

33 and 34.

asked the Minister of Power (1) whether he is aware that the recommendations of the Royal Commission on which the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, was based were made when some 40,000 ponies were used in the mines, that now there are many miles of conveyors used daily underground and that there are no or insufficient statutory provisions or regulations concerning their working; and if he will take steps to ensure that miners suffering accidents arising out of the use of conveyors have the same right to claim damages as workers who suffer injuries as a consequence of the use of conveyors in factories;(2) wheher he is aware that the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, was based upon recommendations made 16 years previously and that it fails to provide the protection needed as a consequence of the increased mechanisation in the pits; and what steps he will take to review it.

The special conditions of working in mines are quite unlike those in factories, and my right hon. Friend has no reason to think that the protection given by the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, and the Regulations made thereunder is inadequate. The Act lays down principles and provides the power to implement these principles by Regulations. By these means safety requirements are kept constantly up to date in the light of changing circumstances in the industry.

38.

asked the Minister of Power if he will now, in view of the seriousness of accidents in the coal mines, set up an inquiry, with the responsibility of reporting to him upon the desirability of reviewing the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954.

The number of fatal and other serious accidents per 100,000 manshifts worked has fallen during each of the last two years. I have no reason to think that any amendment of the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, would lead to a further reduction.

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware that the operation of Section 157 of the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, is oppressive and deprives miners from successfully pursuing claims in accidents arising out of unfenced machinery in the mines; and whether he will seek to repeal that section so that miners are afforded the same protection as enjoyed by factory workers under Section 14 of the Factory Act 1937.

I am not aware that Section 157 of the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, operates unfairly on miners as compared with factory workers in the manner suggested.

asked the Minister of Power if, in view of the large degree of mechanisation which has taken place in the mining industry since the passage of the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, he will recommend the appointment of a Royal Commission to see what further measures are necessary to protect those engaged in the industry.

I would refer my right hon. Friend to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member for Pontypool (Mr. Abse) today.

Pneumonconiosis

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware that the gravest risk of mining, the regular inhalation of certain types of dust, is not the subject of legal liability, and that foundry workers suffering through excessive inhalation of dust may in certain circumstances recover damages; and whether, in order to give miners parity with foundry workers, he will introduce legislation to ensure that when any miner who has worked below ground for three years or more immediately preceding a claim and is found to be suffering from pneumoconiosis claims damages, his claim should be acceded to subject only to assessment of quantum of damages.

I do not accept the implications in the first part of my hon. Friend's Question.My right hon. Friend has no evidence that miners are at any disadvantage in comparison with foundry workers in relation to claims made in respect of diseases prescribed under the National Insurance Industrial Injuries Act, and he does not think that any further legislation is necessary.

Mining Accidents

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware that falls of roof or sides account for a high proportion of mining accidents, that a miner cannot recover damages if he sustains an accident while engaged in repairing a roof following upon a fall and that this takes place at a time when the danger from the roof is greatest; and whether he will introduce legislation to reverse the effect of the decision in Walsh versus the National Coal Board so that miners engaged at the most dangerous times and places shall be fully protected.

I am not satisfied that legislation on the lines suggested by the hon. Member is necessary or that its results would prove to be practicable.

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware of the encroachment upon rights of injured miners to claim damages following the decision of Brown v. National Coal Board; and whether, in order to ensure that a miner has no less legal protection underground than factory workers in a factory, he will seek to place an absolute duty upon mine managers to ensure that roads and working places in mines are made and left secure.

I am not satisfied that legislation on the lines suggested by the hon. Member is necessary or that its results would prove to be practicable.

asked the Minister of Power if he will give the fatal accident rate per 100,000 shifts worked underground and surface, respectively, in the coal-mining industry in each of the past 10 years; and what information he has as to how these figures compare with mines in other countries.

The figures for 1964 were 0·20 per 100,000 manshifts worked underground and 0·08 on the surface. Information in respect of earlier years is published in the Annual Reports of H.M. Chief Inspector of Mines and Quarries (Table 4).Information in my right hon. Friend's Department about the rates of fatal underground accidents in the principal hard-coal producing countries shows that only the Netherlands has a lower rate than Great Britain.

Underground Machinery (Use And Maintenance)

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware of the many accidents that occur to miners at tension boxes and that there is no standard and accepted method of dealing with obstructions or faulty running of belts through such boxes; and whether he will introduce regulations analogous to the Operations at Unfenced Machinery Regulations that now apply to factories so that a miner shall have the same protection as a factory worker.

I have no reason to think that, having regard to the special conditions of working in mines which are quite unlike those in factories, the requirements regarding the use and maintenance of machinery underground are inadequate.

Mines Inspectors

asked the Minister of Power if he will have discussions with the Chairman of the National Coal Board and the Chief Inspector of Mines concerning an increase in the number of mines inspectors, so that each mine in the country can be inspected more regularly.

I shall certainly continue to keep under review the number of inspectors necessary for the execution of the Mines and Quarries Act, 1954, in the light of changing circumstances.

asked the Minister of Power how many vacancies existed in the

NATIONAL COAL BOARD—MEDICAL SERVICE
195619571958195919601961196219631964
Doctors (including those on research)778079767267676971
Nurses330363379368350339338342357
Medical Room Attendants, full-time889932907883842830811800769
Medical Room Volunteers, part-time1,5681,5221,5481,4871,4071,2001,2001,014948

National Coal Board Workshops (Capital Projects)

asked the Minister of Power what requests he has received in the last six months for approval of capital projects for the expansion of the scope of work done in National Coal Board workshops; and what projects he has approved in this respect.

Ministry Of Power

Nationalised Industries (Supplies To Private Firms)

11.

asked the Minister of Power if he will issue a general direction, in the public interest, to the nationalised fuel industries not to supply fuel and services to private firms below cost.

Board Members (Vehicles)

26.

asked the Minister of Power if he will give a general direction to those nationalised industries Inspector of Mines' Department in the years 1960 to 1964, respectively; and what is the figure to date for 1965.

At the end of 1960 there were 20 vacancies; at the end of 1961, 15 vacancies; at the end of 1962 and 1963, 11 vacancies; at the end of 1964, 3 vacancies. The reduction in the number of vacancies for 1964 is due to a re-assessment of the complement needed.

National Coal Board (Medical Services)

asked the Minister of Power, how many doctors, nurses, and medical-room attendants were employed full-time, and part-time, respectively, by the National Coal Board during each of the past 10 years.

I have received the following information from the N.C.B. for the years 1956–64. I regret that information for 1955 is not available.under his control that passenger vehicles for use by members of the various Boards are not to be purchased at a cost exceeding £2,000 for each vehicle.

Cheap Fuels

27.

asked the Minister of Power what inquiry he has made into the production of cheap fuels for industry and/or domestic use, and with what result.

I am constantly concerned to promote economy in the supply of fuel and power. It is one of the purposes of my regular discussions with the Chairmen of the nationalised fuel industries and of my review of fuel policy.

Atomic Power (Northern Ireland)

40.

asked the Minister of Power what consultation he has had with the Government of Northern Ireland with a view to erecting an atomic power station in Ulster.

This is a matter for the Government of Northern Ireland. We do keep in touch on the general question however, and there is an arrangement for supplying the Government of Northern Ireland with advice on siting and safety matters.

Plant And Equipment (Manufacture)

asked the Minister of Power when he intends to bring in legislation to enable the nationalised fuel industries to manufacture plant and equipment.

asked the Minister of Power, if he will expedite the legislation to allow the nationalised fuel industries to produce plant and equipment.

I would refer the hon. Member and my hon. Friend to the statement made on 31st March by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport.

Gas

Capital Development, Normanton

asked the Minister of Power what capital developments in the gas industry he has authorised to be undertaken in the Normanton constituency.

I am asking the Chairman of the North Eastern Gas Board to write to my hon. Friend.

Technology

Merseyside (Scientifically-Based Industries)

42.

asked the Minister of Technology what plans he has for establishing new publicly-owned scientifically-based industries on the Merseyside.

None, but I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply by the Prime Minister to the hon. Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills) on 1st December last.

Ticket And Change Issuing Machines And Level Crossing Control Equipment

asked the Minister of Technology what action he is taking to develop new types of electronic equipment for ticket and change issuing, and level crossing control, which may be available for sale in the export market.

None, but the Department is following the experiments with ticket and change issuing machines which are being undertaken by London Transport.

National Finance

Members (Overseas Delegations)

43.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in HANSARD a detailed list giving the names of Members who have, for the most convenient and longest period of time from 1945 to date, been included in Parliamentary delegations abroad, lecture tours overseas, Strasbourg and other conferences, where any Treasury expenditure has been involved.

No. I do not feel justified in authorising the extensive expenditure of time and labour which would be required to provide this information.

Credit Control (House Building)

44.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that the present credit squeeze is preventing private builders from building houses to sell to individuals, and that there are special difficulties in North Lincolnshire; and when he expects to end the squeeze.

I have seen reports in the Press to this effect, though not of special difficulties in North Lincolnshire. I cannot anticipate when the economic situation will permit a relaxation of credit control.

Export Rebate

47.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the Government's formula for dividing the export rebate between the manufacturer and the export merchant.

There is no Government formula: it is a matter for commercial negotiation.

Assessment Appeals

46.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why a letter, details of which have been given him, dated 13th May, 1963, from a former constituent of the hon. Member for Coventry, North, and addressed to the Valuation Officer of the Inland Revenue at Coventry, was only answered on 13th April, 1965; and what measures he is taking to speed up the consideration of assessment appeals.

My hon. Friend is mistaken about the facts and I am writing to him. The second part of his Question is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government.

Vehicle Licences (Revenue)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the £54 million estimated to be raised in a full year by the increased vehicle licences will be levied on road vehicles excluding farm vehicles.

About £52½ million out of the total estimated full year yield of £54¼ million.

Road Vehicles (Excise Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what additional revenue he proposes to raise by the new system of differential excise duties on road vehicles.

I cannot add anything to the reply given to the hon. Member for Aberdeenshire, East (Mr. Wolrige-Gordon) on 19th May.

Local Government

Buildings Of Architectural And Historical Interest

50.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he has studied the memorandum from the joint sub-committee of Kent Archaeological Society and Committee for the Preservation of Rural Kent on defects in the law relating to the preservation of buildings of architectural and historic interest; and what reply he proposes to make to their recommendations.

Yes. I shall be replying to it shortly and will send the hon. Member a copy of my reply. I am in sympathy with many of the recommendations made in the memorandum. The hon. Member may like to know that we have already doubled the clerical staff concerned with listing buildings under Section 33 of the Town and County Planning Act, 1962, and that we are urgently studying the problems involved in protecting groups of buildings of architectural and historical interest.

Isolated Houses, Country Areas (Land)

48.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is aware of the demand for isolated houses in the countryside and that ample land of little or no agricultural value and often hidden from view is available for these houses; and if he will take steps to discourage planning authorities from keeping this land sterile and rabbit-ridden.

In 1960 my Ministry issued a booklet "New Houses in the Country" which sets out a policy on this matter, and I am sending the hon. Member a copy. I am aware of the demand to which the hon. Gentleman refers, but I am also aware of the dangers implicit in any unconditional surrender to it.

Roadside Lavatories

51.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government in view of the pilot scheme for roadside lavatories, what steps he will take to ensure that local authorities within the designated pilot areas take advantage of the provision now made; and what steps he will take to include the North of England in a pilot scheme.

The scheme has been put to the local authorities; they are considering it and my right hon. Friend hopes they will decide to co-operate. Because its purpose is to gain experience, it is confined to four representative lengths of trunk road, which happen to be in the south. If any of the councils approached should decide not to take part, the interest shown by northern authorities will be borne in mind.

Metropolitan Green Belt

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what consideration he has given to the demand expressed by the Annual General Meeting of the Youth Hostels Association, London Region, a copy of which has been sent to him, for an assured wide belt of continuous countryside round the existing built-up area of London; and when he will state definitively the limits of the Metropolitan Green Belt.

I am glad that this Association supports the Government's policy of maintaining and extending the Metropolitan green belt. I am forwarding to the hon. Member a copy of the letter sent to the Association on my behalf. On the second part of the Question I would refer to the reply I gave to the hen. Member for Sevenoaks (Sir J. Rodgers) on 18th May.

Water Supply, East Leake

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware of the irregularity of the water supply in parts of East Leake, Nottinghamshire; and what proposals there are to improve it.

My right hon. Friend understands that the main serving East Leake is being connected to the nearby Derwent aqueduct which will give increased pressure.

Housing

Local Authority Houses (Lighthouse Service Employees)

49.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take steps to ensure that persons in the Lighthouse Service are not handicapped by the circumstances of their job in obtaining council house accommodation.

My right hon. Friend has not had his attention drawn to any general problem. If the hon. Member has any particular case in mind, perhaps he would write to me.

Property, Stratford (Compulsory Purchase)

53.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why a decision has not yet been announced on the request of the former county borough of West Ham to compulsorily purchase property in Stratford E.15, details of which have been supplied to him, in view of the fact that the inquiry was held in January.

I have issued my decision on this order today. It raised issues which have recently come before the High Court in connection with another compulsory purchase order and I thought it right to await the Court's judgment in that case. In the light of that judgment I have decided that I cannot confirm the West Ham Order. I am writing to my hon. Friend about the case.

Ceylon

Funds (Remittance To United Kingdom)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations what representations he has recently made to the Ceylon Government about the restriction on remittance of funds from Ceylon to this country.

Our High Commissioner in Colombo has continued to make clear to the new Government of Ceylon the importance which the British Government attach to a removal of the restrictions on remittances.

Home Department

Boundary Commissions (Recommendations)

55.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will ask the Boundary Commissions to make available to Members of Parliament copies of their recommendations at the same time as these are supplied to the newspapers.

This is a matter for the Boundary Commissions, who will no doubt take note of the hon. Member's suggestion.

Education And Science

University Pensions (Supplementation)

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the annual cost to the University Grants Committee of implementing the recommendations of the Hale Committee; and whether the supplementations resulting thereform are in addition to the Pensions Increase Acts.

The total amount of supplementing university pensions in 1964 was £335,702, met from the general income of the universities. No specific allocation is made for this purpose by the University Grants Committee.The major part of this sum is attributable to the scheme recommended by the Hale Committee for supplementing the pensions payable to university staff on their retirement. The Pensions Increase Acts do not apply to university staff, but following the last such Act adjustments designed to produce a similar effect on the pensions of university teachers already in retirement were made.

Science And Technology Students (Number Qualifying)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list, by subject of study, the number of students who have qualified annually in science and technology during the calendar years 1962, 1963, 1964, with his estimates for the next three years, using the classifications and criteria shown in Table 4 of Command Paper No. 2146.

Since the publication of the Command Paper to which the hon. Member refers revised figures for students qualifying in 1963 have become available. These indicate that about 900 more technologists qualified than was estimated, largely due to a growth in the membership of professional institutions qualified otherwise than by university degree, diploma, etc.Figures for 1964 and estimates for following years are not yet available but will be incorporated in the report on the 4th Triennial Survey of Scientific and Technological Manpower which took place in January last.

Youth Leaders, Gloucestershire

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he is aware of the acute shortage of youth leaders in Gloucestershire; what steps he is taking to provide more; and whether he will make a statement.

The number of full-time youth leaders in England and Wales has increased from 700 to about 1,200 since 1960. There are nevertheless shortages in areas such as Gloucestershire where the development of the youth ser? vice has been most impressive. I have no power to direct leaders to these areas. A committee of the Youth Service Development Council is at present considering future recruitment and training in England and Wales as a whole.

Secondary Education (Selected Places)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish a list showing the percentage of selected places for secondary education available in county boroughs throughout England and Wales, such figures to specify places available only to children from the borough itself and not to include those available from the surrounding districts.

Information in this form is not readily available. I am sending the hon. and gallant Member a copy of List 69, published annually by my Department, which shows the percentages of 13-year-old pupils in schools of different types by individual local education authority. The figures relate to January, 1963: those for 1964 will be available later this year.

Telephone Service

East Lothian

57.

asked the Postmaster-General how many applications for telephones are outstanding in East Lothian; and what is the average delay before applicants are satisfied.

Twelve, all of which will be met within a month when additional cables have been provided. In addition, there are 72 orders in course of completion; in these cases, the average time to give service is three weeks except when completion is held up to meet the convenience of the applicants.

Wireless And Television

Pay Television Experiment (Cinemas)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will designate the protected cinemas in Westminster, Southwark and Sheffield for the purposes of the pay television experiment.

No. The question of the designation of the local cinemas must wait until the Government has carried out its review of the pay television experiment.

Post Office

Post Office Savings Bank (Glasgow Site)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now announce the site for the offices of the Post Office Savings Bank in Glasgow.

I have decided on a site already owned by the Government adjoining the Cowglen hospital. I am now making final arrangements to acquire it for the Bank's purposes. I am very grateful to all who have helped in the search for an acceptable location.

British Council (English Language Teachers)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many teachers of the English language have been maintained overseas by the British Council in each of the years 1962–65, taking the average for the first quarter of each year; and what is the target for 1966.

The British Council appoints its own overseas English language officers and also subsidise teaching posts overseas. The figures relating to these two categories are:

English Language OfficersSubsidised Posts
196264133
196376126
1964113163
1965127184
The target for 1966 will be higher in both categories, but whether it can be reached will depend on the availability of finance and manpower and the demand of oversea Governments.

East Germany

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will take steps to facilitate mutually the transit of business people and others between this country and East Germany, in view of the fact that present restrictions retard the growth of trade and mutual understanding between the two countries.

No. Her Majesty's Government place no obstacle in the way of bona-fide commercial and private visitors travelling to this country from East Germany.

Board Of Trade

South Africa, Rhodesia And Zambia (Private Investment)

59.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what estimate he has made of the value of British private investment in South Africa, Rhodesia and Zambia, respectively.

Information is available only for the book value of direct investments at the end of 1962—exclusive of oil, insurance and banking; these values were £269 million in South Africa, and £108 million in Rhodesia, Zambia and Malawi.

Trade With Rhodesia And Zambia

60.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the total value of British exports to and imports from Rhodesia and Zambia, respectively, in 1963 and 1964.

United Kingdom statistics do not distinguish Rhodesia and Zambia before 1965, but separate statistics were compiled in those countries for 1964, as follows:

Exports to United KingdomImports from United Kingdom
(£ million f.o.b.)
Rhodesia31·1733·51
Zambia54·4913·45

Capital And Consumer Goods (Imports And Exports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will publish a table showing the division of exports as between capital and consumer goods during each of the last three years ended on 31st March, 1965, or the last convenient date;(2) if he will publish a table showing the division of imports as between capital and consumer goods during each of the last three years ended on 31st March, 1965, or the last convenient date.

The following is the information:

UNITED KINGDOM IMPORTS AND EXPORTS OF FINISHED MANUFACTURES*
Imports (£ million c.i.f.)Exports (£ million f.o.b.)
Year ended MarchYear ended March
196319641965196319641965
Consumer goods†186·6240·2265·1447·0507·8528·6
Other, mainly capital goods‡420·7463·5562·51,518·91,616·51,606·3
Total finished manufactures607·3703·8827·61,965·92,124·52,134·8
* Sections 7 and 8 of the Standard International Trade Classification (Revised). The allocation of finished manufactures between consumer goods and capital goods involves some assumptions where the products may be either capital or consumer goods, e.g. passenger cars. The scope of the two classes, which are to some extent arbitrary, is indicated below.
† Includes cars and motor cycles, works of art, clothing and footwear and other headings covering mainly consumer goods.
‡ Includes machinery, road vehicles other than cars and motor cycles, aircraft, rail vehicles, ships and boats, instruments and other headings covering mainly capital goods.

Nuclear Power Stations, Europe (Tenders)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what arrangements he has made for United Kingdom tenders to be submitted for the construction of nuclear power stations in Europe which are shortly to be ordered.

The submission of tenders is a matter for the manufacturers concerned. My right hon. Friend is prepared to assist them in every possible way.

Disarmament

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister what steps are now being taken by Her Majesty's Government to implement the statement by the Commonwealth Prime Ministers in 1961 that an international authority should be created in association with the United Nations to control an adequately armed military force, established to prevent aggression and ensure that it is not used for any purpose inconsistent with the United Nations Charter.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my hon. Friend the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs gave to the hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson) on 1st March.

Prime Minister (Speeches)

asked the Prime Minister if he will arrange as a regular routine to have placed in the Library a copy of any public speech which he may make in this country or overseas, in every instance where a full text of such speeches exists.

I would refer the right hon. Gentleman to the Answer I gave to a similar request from the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for St. Marylebone (Mr. Hogg) on 12th May. Wherever possible I would hope to do this.

Paymaster-General (Letters)

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister why the Paymaster-General's letters are stamped First Lord of the Treasury.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister what proportion of all the letters from the Paymaster-General are stamped First Lord of the Treasury.

About a hundredth of 1 per cent. of letters from the Paymaster-General's Office are so stamped, and this is for reasons of administrative convenience.

Ministers (Overseas Visits)

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister which members of his administration have at public expense visited which overseas countries since the forma-

MinisterPlaces VisitedDates
President of the Board of TradeMoscow28th–29th October, 1964
President of the Board of TradePeking30th October to 4th November, 1964
Minister of Defence for the ArmyBritish Army of the Rhine27th–30th October, 1964
Commonwealth Secretary (and Mrs. Bottomley)Zambia21st–29th October, 1964
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Gordon WalkerUnited States25th–28th October, 1964
Minister of Defence for the Royal Air ForceChile2nd–6th November, 1964
Colonial SecretarySouth Arabia26th November to 8th December, 1964
President of the Board of TradeGeneva9th–10th November and 19th–20th November, 1964
Minister of AviationParis29th–30th October, 1964
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Gordon Walker)Bonn14th–16th November, 1964
Geneva18th–20th November, 1964
President of the Board of TradeBonn16th–17th November, 1964
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Lord Chalfont)U.S.A.23rd November to 3rd December, 1964
Minister of AgricultureGeneva19th–20th November, 1964
Attorney-GeneralParis27th–29th November, 1964
Economic SecretaryHelsinki27th November, 1964
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Thomson)Paris30th November, 1964
President of the Board of TradeParis2nd–3rd December, 1964
Economic SecretaryParis2nd–3rd December, 1964
Minister of Overseas DevelopmentParis2nd–3rd December, 1964
Minister of TransportParis2nd–3rd December, 1964
Chancellor of the ExchequerParislst–3rd December, 1964
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign Office (Lord Walston)Mexico26th November to 3rd December, 1964
Joint Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance (Mr. Harold Davies)Palermo, Sicily5th–6th November, 1964
Chancellor of the Exchequer (and Mrs. Callaghan)Paris14th–16th December, 1964
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Gordon Walker)Paris14th–18th December, 1964
Secretary of State for Defence (and Mrs. Healey)Paris14th–17th December, 1964
Prime MinisterU.S.A. and Canada6th–10th December, 1964
Foreign SecretaryU.S.A. and Canada6th–10th December, 1964
Secretary of State for DefendU.S.A.6th–10th December, 1964
Commonwealth SecretaryU.S.A. and Canada9th–10th December, 1964
Minister of State, Commonwealth Relations Office (Mr. Hughes)Nairobi9th–14th December, 1964
Minister of Defence for the ArmyParis15th–17th December, 1964
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Mason)Sweden20th–22nd December, 1964
Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Aviation (Mr. Stonehouse)Brazil, Argentina and Chile28th December, 1964 to 6th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Army (Mr. Reynolds)Malta and Libya28th December, 1964 to 5th January, 1965
Minister of Defence for the Royal Air ForceThe Hague21st December, 1964
Minister of State, Department of Education and Science (Lord Bowden)Switzerland29th December 1964–6th January, 1965
Minister of Defence for the Army (and Mrs. Mulley)Aden, Bahrain, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Bangkok and Delhi3rd–21st January, 1965
Minister for Overseas DevelopmentIndia and Pakistan4th–20th January, 1965

tion of his Government, and for what periods; and which of them have on those occasions been accompanied at public expense by members of their families.

The following is the information:

MinisterPlaces VisitedDates
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Royal Navy (Mr. Mallalieu)Gibraltar10th–16th January, 1965
Minister of Defence for the Royal NavyU.S.A. and Canada4th–16th January, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Thomson)U.S.A.3rd–11th January, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Mason)Japan10th–15th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign Office (Lord Walston)Ethiopia30th January to 14th February, 1965
Minister of State, Department of Education and Science (Lord Bowden)Australia26th January to 7th February, 1965
Colonial SecretaryCaribbean and U.S.A.31st January to 17th February, 1965
Lord Chancellor and Commonwealth SecretaryRhodesia20th February to 4th March, 1965
First Secretary of StateAustria and Sweden7th–14th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the R.A.F. (Mr. Millan)Middle East3rd–10th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign Office (Lord Walston)Rome21st–24th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign Office (Lord Walston)Paris6th–7th January, 1965
Minister of State, Commonwealth Relations Office (Mr. Hughes)Gambia15th–20th February, 1965
President of the Board of TradeBrussels11th–13th January, 1965
Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Agriculture (Mr. Hoy)Berlin28th–30th January, 1965
Minister of AviationFrance (Bretigny)11th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign Office (Lord Walston)Dakar25th–29th January, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Colonial OfficeGibraltar12th–15th February, 1965
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Gordon Walker)U.S.A.24th–27th February, 1965
Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Aviation (Mr. Stonehouse)Beirut19th–25th March, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Thomson)Moscow12th–15th February, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Redhead)Cologne, Frankfurt and Offenbach19th–22nd February, 1965
First Secretary of StateGeneva22nd–23rd February, 1965
President of the Board of TradeGeneva22nd–23rd February, 1965
Attorney-GeneralBermuda23rd February–4th March, 1965
Minister of TransportRome27th February—lst March, 1965
Minister of Defence for the ArmyParislOth–11th March, 1965
Minister of State, Department of Economic AffairsHolland19th February, 1965
Secretary of State for DefenceParis26th–27th February, 1965
Foreign SecretaryBrussels11th–12th February, 1965
Minister of AviationParis26th–27th February, 1965
Prime MinisterBonn and Berlin6th–9th March, 1965
Foreign SecretaryBonn and Berlin6th–8th March, 1965
Joint Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Labour (Mr. Marsh)Germany (Oberhausen)16th March, 1965
Chief Secretary, TreasuryBonn7th–9th March, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Colonial Office (Mrs. White)Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland11th–29th March, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Redhead)Luxembourg4th–5th March, 1965
Foreign SecretaryRome8th–10th March, 1965
Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Overseas Development (Mr. Oram)Wellington, New Zealand12th–30th March, 1965
Minister of PowerLuxembourg4th–5th March, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Foreign Office (Lord Walston)Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Saigon, Manila, Hong Kong, Tokyo and Seoul25th March to 17th April, 1965
Minister of Defence for the Royal Air ForceU.S.A.24th–28th March, 1965
MinisterPlaces VisitedDates
Minister of State, Department of Economic AffairsU.S.A.16th–19th March, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Lord Chalfont)U.S.A.3rd–10th March, 1965
Paris30th March to 1st April, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Darling)Lyons20th–22nd March, 1965
Foreign SecretaryU.S.A.21st–24th March, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Thomson)Paris30th March, to 1st April, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Colonial Office (Mrs. White)Fiji23rd April to 4th May 1965
Colonial SecretaryMauritius4th–11th April, 1965
Commonwealth Secretary (and Mrs. Bottomley)Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand21st April to 5th May, 1965
Secretary of State for DefenceGermany8th–10th April, 1965
Secretary of State for DefenceItaly2nd–4th April, 1965
Minister of State, Commonwealth Relations Office (Mr. Hughes)Malta8th–11th April, 1965
Minister of Public Building and WorksGermany26th–30th April, 1965
President of the Board of TradeIndia and Pakistan22nd–29th April, 1965
Prime Minister (and Mrs. Wilson)Paris2nd–3rd April, 1965
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Stewart)Paris2nd–3rd April, 1965
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Colonial Office (Lord Taylor)Sierra Leone26th–29th April, 1965
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Stewart)Teheran5th–9th April, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Lord Chalfont)Helsinki11th–13th April, 1965
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Stewart)Belgrade and Prague18th–25th April, 1965
Secretary of State for Defence (and Mrs. Healey)Norway23rd–26th April, 1965
Minister of Agriculture (and Mrs. Peart)Ireland20th–25th April, 1965
Minister for Overseas DevelopmentHolland7th April, 1965
Minister of Defence for the Royal NavyKuala Lumpur, Singapore and Hong Kong19th–27th April, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Darling)Milan21st–23rd April, 1965
Joint Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Economic Affairs (Mr. Foley)Holland12th–13th April, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Redhead)Brussels14th April, 1965
Hanover30th April to 2nd May, 1965
Minister of Defence for the Royal Air ForceGibraltar, Malta, Cyprus and Libya20th–25th April, 1965
Chief Whip, House of LordsGibraltar, Malta, Cyprus and Libya20th–25th April, 1965
Minister for Overseas DevelopmentTanzania and Zambia21st April to 1st May, 1965
Prime MinisterU.S.A.13th–16th April, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Thomson)U.S.A.13th–16th April, 1965
Prime Minister (and Mrs. Wilson)Rome27th–29th April, 1965
Minister of State, Board of Trade (Mr. Mason)Norway16th–18th May, 1965
Minister of Overseas DevelopmentParis12th–13th May, 1965
Minister of State, Department of Economic AffairsBrussels21st May, 1965
Joint Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Economic Affairs (Mr. Rodgers)Geneva2nd–5th May, 1965
Paris14th–17th March, 1965
Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Power (Mr. Morris)France3rd May, 1965
Minister without Portfolio (Lord Champion)Strasbourg5th–7th May, 1965
Financial SecretaryZurich11th–12th May, 1965
Minister of AviationDenmark13th–15th May, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Thomson)Persian Gulf8th–17th May, 1965
President of the Board of Trade (and Mrs. Jay)Amsterdam13th–18th May, 1965
Foreign Secretary (and Mrs. Stewart)Vienna14th–16th May, 1965
Prime MinisterVienna23rd–25th May, 1965
MinisterPlaces VisitedDates
President of the Board of TradeVienna23rd–25th May, 1965
Foreign SecretaryGermany18th–19th May, 1965
Joint Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Land and Natural Resources (Mr. Skeffington)Jersey and France19th–20th May, 1965
Mr. Silkin, Government WhipParis21st–25th May, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Mr. Padley)Vienna23rd–25th May, 1965
Minister of State, Foreign Office (Lord Chalfont)U.S.A.24th April-8th May, 1965

Ministry Of Aviation

Plowden Committee (United States Aircraft Industry)

asked the Minister of Aviation what facilities are being made available to the Plowden Committee to enable it to visit and study the United States aircraft industry; and if he will make a statement.

A sub-committee of the Plowden Committee recently visited Washington for discussions on aircraft matters with representatives of the American Government. The visit was part of its investigation into possible future co-operation on aircraft projects between our industry and the industries of other countries. It did not visit individual firms.

Eastern Caribbean

Draft Federal Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what progress is being made towards the creation of an Eastern Caribbean Federation.

In a dispatch of 22nd March I gave the seven Governments my views on their draft Federal Scheme and expressed the hope that when the Regional Council of Ministers had considered the matter further at their April meeting in the light of my dispatch it would be agreeable to them to attend a Conference in London starting on 1st July.The Council met on 26th April. The Government of Antigua took no part in the discussion of federation. The Council adjourned on 29th April without completing their deliberations and without fixing a date for resumption. The Government of Barbados have announced that they wish to have the benefit of the views of the Barbados Parliament before entering into further discussions with the terri- tories concerned. They propose to publish a White Paper early in June which would be debated before the end of the month. I hope that the Regional Council of Ministers may be reconvened shortly after.

Ministry Of Defence

Porton Down Research Establishment (Animals)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many animals, and of what species, were used for experiments at the Porton Down Research Establishment in the years 1962, 1963, and 1964, respectively.

Figures for experiments at the Microbiological Research Establishment and the Chemical Defence Experimental Establishment, related to financial years, are as follows:

1962–631963–641964–65
Horses1
Sheep6692107
Cattle5810
Pigs8358121
Poultry1157
Rats16,49713,38212,492
Mice95,15967,18861,303
Rabbits2,7162,9243,414
Guineapigs10,39710,8607,453
Monkeys14510
Dogs252224
Frogs129072
Cats232203209
Hamsters12
Pigeons61

Royal Air Force (Aircraft And Missiles)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT lists showing each type of aircraft and missile, where this is not classified information, now in service with the Royal Air Force, and the year in which under present plans they are to be replaced with more advanced types; and the aircraft and missiles which are shortly to come into service or are on order, or for which design studies have been commissioned or on which an option exists, with which it is at present planned to equip the Royal Air Force, and the

I. AIRCRAFT NOW IN SERVICE
AircraftDate for Replacement by more advanced typeRemarks
Andover CC 2No current plans for replacement.
AnsonReplacement now in progress.
ArgosyNot yet decided.
AusterNo current plans for replacement.
BassetNo current plans for replacement.
BelvedereNot yet decided.
BeverleyAbout 1968To be replaced by C130.
BritanniaNo decision on replacement taken.
CanberraDate depends on decision on replacement type.
ChipmunkNo current plans for replacement.
CometNo decision on replacement taken.
DakotaNo current plans for replacement.
DevonNo current plans for replacement.
Gnat1973–74.Joint Anglo-French development planned.
HastingsAbout 1967.To be replaced by C130.
HeronNo current plans for replacement.
Hunter1968 onwards.To be replaced in front line by Phantom and Kestrel.
JavelinRô1e to be assumed by Lightning.
Jet ProvostNo current plans for replacement.
KestrelIn service with Tripartite Evaluation Squadron.
LightningNot yet decided.
MeteorNo current plans for replacement.
PembrokeNo current plans for replacement.
PioneerNot yet decided.
ProvostNo current plans for replacement.
Shackleton Mk. 21969–70.To be replaced by HS801.
Shackleton Mk. 3Not yet decided.
SiouxNo current plans for replacement.
SycamoreNot yet decided.
Twin PioneerNot yet decided.
ValettaNo current plans for replacement.
VampireNo current plans for replacement.
VarsityMid-1970'sNo decision taken on replacement.
VictorNo current plans for replacement.
VulcanNo current plans for replacement.
WessexEarly 1970'sReplacement type not yet decided.
Whirlwind
II. AIRCRAFT ON ORDER, OR EXPECTED IN SERVICE WITHIN TWO YEARS
AircraftExpected Financial Year of Entry to service
Andover C I1965/66
Belfast1965/66
Dominie1965/66
C 1301966/67
VC 101966/67
III. AIRCRAFT FOR WHICH STUDIES HAVE BEEN COMMISSIONED
AircraftExpected Entry to Service
New Tactical HelicopterEarly 1970's
Kestrel (Operational version)Late 1960's
Advanced trainer (Anglo-French development)1973–74
Variable geometry aircraft (Anglo-French development)Mid-late 1970's

year in which it is hoped they will be in operational service.

IV. AIRCRAFT FOR WHICH OPTIONS EXIST

Aircraft

Financial Year of Entry to Service

F111A1968/69
C1301966/67
Phantom1968/69

V. GUIDED MISSILES NOW IN SERVICE

Missiles

Date for replacement by more advanced type

Remarks

A. Air-to-Air

FirestreakNot yet decided.Will continue in service as supplement to Red Top.

B. Surface-to-Air

Bloodhound Mark 2Not yet decided.

C. Air-to-Surface

SS 11No current plans for replacement.
AS30Date depends on decision as to Canberra replacement.
Blue SteelNo current plans for replacement.

VI. GUIDED MISSILES ON ORDER OR EXPECTED IN SERVICE WITHIN TWO YEARS

Missile

Expected financial year of entry into service

Air-to-Air

Red Top1965/66.

VII. GUIDED MISSILES—STUDIES

There are no missiles on which feasibility or project studies are outstanding. Development of a low-level ground-to-air guided missile is already in progress, and the air-to-surface missile AJ 168 is being developed jointly with the French.

Hms "Ark Royal"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, in view of information supplied to him by the hon. Member for Blackley, he will postpone the next sailing of H.M.S. "Ark Royal" to the Far East until after a full independent investigation of conditions on board.

Allington Farm, Wiltshire (Animals)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many animals, and of what species, are currently housed at Allington Farm, Wiltshire.

At a count taken on 7th May there were 8,300 mice, 2,400 rats, 2,150 guineapigs, 870 rabbits, 630 sheep, 530 fowl, 160 cattle, 100 cats, 40 dogs, 28 miniature swine, 7 horses, 5 geese and 2 sheepdogs.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the total cost for the years 1962, 1963 and 1964, of the maintenance of the animal breeding station known as Allington Farm, Wiltshire.

£89,000, £81,000 and £87,000 respectively in the financial years 1962–63, 1963–64 and 1964–65.

Hospitals

Royal Victoria Infirmary, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne

asked the Minister of Health if he is satisfied with the organisation for admission of acutely ill patients to the Royal Victoria Infirmary, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, in the light of the evidence submitted to him by the hon. Member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, East; and whether he will make a statement on his plans to improve the present position.

I am in touch with the Board of Governors and will write to my hon. Friend.

Land And Natural Resources

Home-Grown Timber

asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources what action he proposes to take, in conjunction with the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Secretary of State for Wales, to ensure that there are adequate reserves of home-grown timber to meet the needs of the United Kingdom between 2015 and 2065, having regard to the best forecasts he can make of rising United Kingdom and world timber consumption, the relative decline in the availability of overseas supplies and the desirability of reducing the balance of payments problem; and whether he will make a statement.

Studies of how much manpower and capital should be allotted to planting in various parts of the country are in progress as part of the

UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES FOR APRIL
YearAberdare Employment Exchange and associated Youth Employment OfficeMountain Ash Employment Exchange
MenBoysWomenGirlsTotalMenWomenTotal
1951550121612474728468352
19524151422768724288126414
19534012226132716262100362
1954289373648777720198299
195515934982631711033143
1956177361294138315660216
195719345944237413325158
1958253641965957224368311
1959256821473652124168309
1960185461274940715654210
1961179411833043314772219
1962232141071036315653209
19634081131444470928447331
196422229432031417525200
1965337441407259321440254

Note: The Youth Employment Offices for Aberdare and Mountain Ash provide joint statistics which are shown under Aberdare.

asked the Minister of Labour what are the figures for insurable population in the Mountain Ash and Aberdare Employment Exchanges, respectively, for the month of April in the years 1951 and 1965.

Estimated numbers of employees are available for the mid-year only. Separate figures are not available for the Aberdare and Mountain Ash Employment Exchange areas. For the joint area the estimated number of employees was 24,440 for mid-1951 and 25,840 for mid-1964. The figure for mid-1965 will not be available until April, 1966.

general process of national and regional planning.

Ministry Of Labour

Mountain Ash And Aberdare

asked the Minister of Labour what are the figures for registered unemployed for the month of April in each of the years 1951 to 1965, and for men, boys, women and girls, for the Mountain Ash and Aberdare Employment Exchanges, respectively.

Labourers (Average Weekly Earnings)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the average weekly earnings of adult male general and light labourers in London, the Midlands and the West of Scotland, respectively.

Information about average weekly earnings is not available for light labourers. The average weekly earnings and hours for adult male labourers—timeworkers—in the engineering industries in January, 1965, the latest date for which information is available, were 301s. 10d. for 47.1 hours in London and South-Eastern region, 304s. 2d. for 47.2 hours in Midlands region and 297s. 1d. for 47.8 hours in Scotland. Separate figures for the west of Scotland are not available.

Registered Disabled Persons

asked the Minister of Labour what are the major disabilities

Nature of DisabilityEngland (a)Wales (b)Swansea (c)
Chronic Bronchitis; Emphysema, asthma, etc.4,44454733
Diseases of the Heart and Circulatory System3,60642523
Diseases, Injuries and Deformities of Lower Limb3,07237417
Curvatures and Spondylitis, Lumbar and Cervical Disc Lesions, etc2,64130836
Mental Disorders: Psychoneuroses (e.g. anxiety or obsessional states; Hysteria)2,20828424
Diseases, Injuries and Deformities of Upper Limb2,0172289
Diseases of Digestive System1,94428428
Organic Nervous Diseases (Epilepsy)1,8411056
Arthritis and Rheumatism1,78118617
Eye Defects (including totally blind not registered with local authorities)1,43317016
Tuberculosis (Pulmonary)1,39225224
Other General Diseases and Injuries1,21513110
Injuries to Thorax, Abdomen, Pelvis and Trunk; Hernia89514015
Pneumoconiosis (including Silicosis) (Coalminers and Ex-Coalminers only)1751713

Scotland

Home Grown Timber

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what eventual target acreage for land in productive forestry he estimates to be desirable to meet the requirements of the nation in 100 years' time, in view of the steady rate of increase in consumption and the likelihood of higher prices for imported timber due to a growing world shortage.

I would refer the noble Lord to the Reply which my right hon. Friend, the Minister of Land and Natural Resources, gave him today. The review of the forestry programme will take account of future trends in consumption and prices as far as they can be reasonably foreseen.

Fishing Harbours (Improvement And Reconstruction)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many schemes of fishing harbour improvement and reconstruction have been carried out since 1951; how much money has been expended on them; and where they have taken place.

amongst registered disabled unemployed; and what numbers fall into each category of disability in England, Wales and Swansea, respectively.

The following table shows the numbers of registered disabled persons in the numerically larger categories of disability who were registered as unemployed on 12th April, 1965 in (a) England, (b) Wales and (c) Swansea.

Since the Secretary of State for Scotland became responsible, on the passing of the Fisheries Act, 1955, for assisting works at fishery harbours in Scotland, Exchequer grants amounting to £1,801,307 and loans amounting to £380,097 have been offered for works at 69 harbours.Details of the schemes under construction or completed each year are given in the Annual Reports on the Fisheries of Scotland presented to Parliament. Before 1955 these Reports gave corresponding information about schemes formerly assisted from the Exchequer on the recommendation of the Development Commission.

Roads

A6 Road (Off-Set Double White Lines)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will abandon the off-set double white line experimental scheme between Skew Bridge and Beela Bridge on the A.6, in view of the recent accident record and the adverse opinion of experienced drivers using this road.

No. So far as I have heard comments on the experiment with off-set double white lines on straight roads, they have been largely favourable. I very much regret the accident which occurred on this road on 15th May, but I do not think it can be attributed to the markings. The experiment is still in its early stages and I propose to continue it.

Road Accidents

asked the Minister of Transport what was the number of road accidents resulting in serious or fatal injury in 1964, expressed as a figure per mile of trunk or Class I roads in each of the respective areas of Warwickshire, each adjoining county, and Great Britain as a whole.

I regret that the figures of fatal and serious accidents are not readily available. The following table shows the numbers of people killed or seriously injured, expressed as a figure per mile of trunk and Class I roads:

Warwickshire8·4
Staffordshire5·1
Leicestershire and Rutland3·9
Northamptonshire4·1
Oxfordshire3·7
Gloucestershire5·8
Worcestershire3·5
Great Britain3·6
NOTE: Counties include county boroughs.

The comparisons are affected by differences in the proportion of trunk and Class I to other roads, in the proportion of urban roads—which have a higher accident rate—and in the density of traffic per mile of road.

asked the Minister of Transport how many road accidents resulting in serious or fatal injuries occurred in Warwickshire in 1964; what was the comparable number in 1960; what percentage increase this represents; and what was the comparable percentage increase in adjoining counties.

I regret that the figures of fatal and serious accidents are not readily available. The number of people killed or seriously injured in Warwickshire—including Birmingham and Coventry—was 4,223 in 1963 and 3,365 in 1960: the increase was 25 per cent. The percentage increases for the adjoining counties—including county boroughs—were:

Staffordshire13
Leicestershire and Rutland0
Northamptonshire19
Oxfordshire8
Gloucestershire20
Worcestershire9