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Volume 717: debated on Thursday 5 August 1965

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 5th August, 1965

Education And Science

Ex-Service Men (Teacher Training)

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he will take to encourage men and women in the Services who are completing their terms of engagement and who have high educational and technical qualifications to apply for training as teachers.

The opportunities open to suitably qualified mature men and women to train as teachers are made known to those about to leave the Services through the Regular Forces Resettlement Service. Information about teaching is published periodically in the Services Resettlement Bulletin, and liaison between my Department, the Ministry of Defence and the Ministry of Labour ensures that those responsible for advising Service men and women on their resettlement in civilian life are fully informed on the subject.

Technical Colleges (Refresher Courses In General Education)

6.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he is making to technical colleges to hold refresher courses in general education for early school leavers who would make suitable entrants to the teaching profession.

Opportunities are available in local colleges of further education and in evening institutes to prepare for G.C.E. examinations at "O" and "A" level and thus obtain the educational qualifications required for entry to teacher training. If the number of students enrolling sufficed, local education authorities and college principals would, I am sure, arrange a special day-time course for married women or a special evening course for people in employment who wished to improve their general educational standard.

British Academy (Research Awards)

7.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of the Government moneys they receive is used by the Arts Council to supplement research awards offered by the British Academy; and if he will take steps to encourage such a process.

None. The British Academy receives a grant direct from the Department and it would not be appropriate for the Arts Council to supplement this.

Research Councils (Expenditure)

8.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what advice he has received from the Council for Scientific Policy on the best allocation of resources between the research councils.

The Council for Scientific Policy has given some preliminary advice in connection with a general survey of Government expenditure. It is undertaking a more detailed study with a view to tendering further advice before the Government take decisions on next year's Estimates for Research Councils' expenditure.

Divinity Students (Assistance)

11.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is aware of the action recently taken by the Lancashire Education Authority in connection with the education of divinity students; and if he will encourage education authorities to take similar action to assist such students.

I am aware of the action to which my hon. Friend draws attention, which is within the local education authority's discretion under the arrangements referred to in the reply I gave him on 4th May last. I do not consider that any further approach by me to local education authorities on this subject would be appropriate.

Chromosomal Abnormalities (Benzene)

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether, in considering a possible connection between benzene and chromosome abnormalities, he will give an assurance that he will take account of the high aromatic content of certain types of petrol.

I would refer to the reply I gave my hon. Friend on 12th July, to which I have nothing to add.

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will now provide quantitative data regarding exposure to benzene and chromosome abnormalities.

Reliable quantitative data relating to exposure to benzene and the occurrence of chromosomal abnormalities are not available but inquiries are being undertaken in an endeavour to obtain such information.

University Students (Wales)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many students received university education in Wales during each of the last five years; and what is his assessment of the likely increase in numbers during the next five years.

The information is given in the following table. The figures show a steady increase, rising from some 6,500 in 1960 to over 9,000 in October 1964. For 1967–68 a figure of nearly 13,000 students is forecast.

Following is the information:

The total numbers of full-time students attending the University of Wales during each of the past five years are as follows:

Academic Year

1960–19616,431
1961–19627,067
1962–19637,602
1963–19648,261
1964–1965 (provisional)8,949

In addition there were about 150 to 200 students each year in the faculty of arts, St. David's College, Lampeter.

For the academic year 1967–68, nearly 13,000 students are expected in Welsh university institutions; this estimate covers the University of Wales, the faculty of Arts at St. David's College, Lampeter and the Welsh College of Advanced Technology Cardiff. Estimates for later years have not yet been made.

Teachers (Remuneration And Pensions)

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will recommend the appointment of a Royal Commission to investigate the structure and level of teachers' remuneration and teachers' pension schemes.

Independent Schools (Buildings)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is his estimate of the capital cost of new buildings required for integrating the independent schools into the State system.

In general I would not expect integration to depend on new building. But I can make no estimate until the Public Schools Commission has been appointed and considered how integration can best be achieved. It will not be concerned with all independent schools.

Direct Grant Schools

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will ensure that direct grant schools shall retain their independence in local authority areas where a comprehensive system of education is being contemplated.

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will request direct grant schools to co-operate with local authorities in whose areas they are located, when such authorities adopt a comprehensive system of secondary education, by adopting a comprehensive education system themselves.

In my recent circular I expressed the hope that governors of direct grant schools would co-operate with local education authorities with a view to participating in local schemes of comprehensive education. I do not wish to anticipate the outcome of local discussions on this subject.

Commonwealth Immigrants (Employment As Teachers)

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he is taking to provide employment as teachers for qualified Commonwealth immigrants entering Great Britain under the special quota for teachers.

There is no special quota for Commonwealth immigrants entering Great Britain as teachers, but teachers eligible for the status of qualified teacher here are among those who may receive entry vouchers, as the White Paper published on Monday explained. The employment of teachers, of whatever origin, is a matter for the local education authority or school authorities concerned and not for my right hon. Friend. He is considering what special arrangements can be made to help would-he teachers from the Commonwealth who lack familiarity with our teaching methods or the necessary standard of spoken English.

Day Release Facilities (Nottinghamshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he is taking to improve day release facilities in the Nottinghamshire area.

Taking into account recent and current building projects at colleges in Nottinghamshire, the facilities available or shortly becoming available would appear adequate to meet foreseeable demands.

Building Projects (Blackpool And Fylde)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many educational building projects in Blackpool or Fylde there are whose commencement or completion will be delayed as a result of the recent financial policy changes; and whether he will indicate delay in each case and the new date of completion.

I know of no educational building projects in this area which are due to start within the next six months and will be delayed as a result of the economic measures recently announced.

New Primary School, Thetford

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he will authorise a start to be made in the building of the new primary school required on the Redcastle Furze Estate at Thetford.

I have included a five-class school in the authority's 1966–67 major building programme. If it proves necessary I shall be prepared to allow an early start on actual building. I am considering a request from the authority to increase the size of the project to 10 classes.

Birmingham School Of Architecture

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why he has not yet answered the letter of the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr on the mismanagement of the affairs of the Birmingham School of Architecture by Birmingham City Council over a period of nearly four months.

The hon. Member will have received a letter dated 30th July from my noble Friend the Minister of State explaining that discussions about the future of the Birmingham School of Architecture are in progress. Meanwhile, the local education authority is discharging its responsibility towards the school as a department of the College of Art with its customary efficiency.

Building Projects (North-East Essex)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the dates both for the new primary school at Wivenhoe and the other school building projects in North-East Essex are still firm, in view of the recent economy cuts.

In accordance with the terms of the announcement made by my right hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, on 27th July school building will not be affected by the special measures which local authorities are being asked to take. I understand from the Essex Local Education Authority that the dates for the primary school at Wivenhoe which were given to the hon. Member on 1st July are unchanged and that it has no plans to delay other school building projects in Essex.

University Of Stirling

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what effect the recent cuts in capital investment will have on the new University of Stirling.

This new university is still at the planning stage and it is not envisaged that any contracts would have been let during the next six months. The university will therefore be unaffected by the recent statement made by my right hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Aberdeen University

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science to what extent the recent cuts in capital investment will affect the expansion plans of Aberdeen University.

This university is in a development district and is therefore exempted from the measures recently announced by my right hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Its development will not be affected in any way.

National Film School (Committee)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will now make a statement on what action is to be taken to establish a film training school.

My right hon. Friend has decided to appoint a small independent committee to inquire fully into the need for a national film school, its objects and size if it were to be established and how it might be organised and financed.The name of the Chairman and the members of the Committee and their terms of reference will be announced as soon as possible.

Swimming Contests, Cardiff (Television)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what arrangements he has made, following his official discussions with the swimming associations and television authorities, for the holding and televising of swimming contests at the Empire Pool, Cardiff; and whether he will make a statement.

I am glad to inform the House that, with the goodwill of all parties, this contest will now be televised in the United Kingdom. The Friday evening events will be handled by B.B.C.: the Saturday afternoon programme by I.T.V. The arrangement has the concurrence of the English and the Welsh Amateur Swimming Associations.

Sports Clubs (Building And Capital Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the scheme for the provision of grants to sports clubs for the improvement of sporting facilities has been stopped, or in any way curtailed, by the Government's policy of slowing down the rate of expenditure on capital goods.

Building projects at sports clubs are not exempt from the restrictions announced by my right hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It is not yet possible to determine the precise effect of the measures on building or on capital grants paid by my Department but there will be some delay in both.

Social Science Research Council

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action has been taken on the recommendation of the Heyworth Report that a Social Science Research Council should be established.

On 2nd June I announced the Government's acceptance in principle of this recommendation.The draft of an Order in Council is being prepared, specifying the objects of the new body and declaring it to be a Research Council for the purposes of the Science and Technology Act. 1965; the draft will be laid before Parliament, in accordance with Section 1(4) of the Act, after the new Council has been established by Royal Charter. I expect to be in a position to lay the draft in the autumn.Meanwhile, I am pleased to announce that Dr. Michael Young has accepted my invitation to become Chairman of the new Research Council. I am considering with my colleagues the composition of the Council, and will announce the names of other members as soon as possible.

Home Department

Functions Of Traffic Wardens Order

35.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the Functions of Traffic Wardens Order, 1965, will enable traffic wardens, when it is necessary to remove cars which have been parked illegally, to drive them away to the pound, thereby relieving the police of that duty.

No. But my right hon. and learned Friend is discussing with chief officers of police the extent to which it would be appropriate for this duty to be carried out by specially trained civilians.

Therapeutic Substances (Animals)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many animals were involved in the production of cosmetics in the latest year for which figures are available; whether he is satisfied that the Therapeutic Substances Act, and other existing legislation, provides adequate safeguards to prevent animal suffering in this industry; and if he will make a statement.

I regret that no information is available about the numbers of animals used to produce or test cosmetics. The use of animals for the production of therapeutic substances is subject to the restrictions imposed under the Therapeutic Substances Act, 1956. Animals used for other manufacturing purposes are protected by the general law against unnecessary suffering. If animals are used to test a particular substance and there is any risk of pain the Cruelty to Animals Act, 1876, applies. This Act has been reviewed by the Departmental Committee on Experiments on Animals, the report of which my right hon. and learned Friend is now considering.

Immigrants (Knowledge Of English)

37.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will take steps to ascertain what proportion of immigrants entering the United Kingdom in future have a good written and spoken knowledge of English.

Crime Prevention (Police)

38.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the need for experienced police officers in the Metropolitan area to deal with violence and robbery and the prevention of the escape of prisoners, he will consider withdrawing the police officers now on loan to the South Vietnam Government, and stationed in Saigon.

There are no police officers from forces in this country on loan to the South Vietnam Government.

Christopher Harold Williams

39.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the many unsatisfactory aspects of the case of Christopher Harold Williams, now imprisoned in Dartmoor, including the identification of Williams by a police officer who was fetched to the identification parade by the only police officer who knew with certainty which of the men in the parade was the accused, and the inconsistencies between the deposition of a detective-sergeant and his evidence in court, some of which inconsistencies could not have been known to the jury at the trial, he will re-examine the memorandum on this case submitted to him by Mr. John Foot, solicitor, of Plymouth; and if, in view of the harassments to which Williams has been exposed, through official delay and incompetence, while attempting to secure redress of his grievances from inside prison, he will refer this case back to the Court of Criminal Appeal or order the immediate release of Williams.

My right hon. and learned Friend has carefully considered all that has been submitted to him and his predecessor on behalf of Christopher Harold Williams, but the conclusion he has reached is that he would not be justified in referring this case back to the Court of Criminal Appeal or in taking any other action.

44.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the observations by the Court of Criminal Appeal on the trial of Christopher Harold Williams, he will for the information of hen. Members, place in the Library of the House a transcript of this trial and a copy of the memorandum on this case submitted by Mr. John Foot, solicitor, of Plymouth.

No. My right hon. and learned Friend does not consider that the circumstances of the case justify his taking this exceptional course.

Jury Service (Committee's Report)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has now considered the Report of the Committee on Jury Service; and if he will introduce legislation to remove the present anomalies which exist in that service.

Yes. The Government welcome this report and are in general agreement with the Committee's main recommendations. Most of these will require legislation, which will be prepared and introduced as soon as practicable.

Road Traffic Law (Law Society's Memorandum)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the Law Society with regard to the establishment of special traffic courts; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

The Law Society's Memorandum makes a number of proposals on road traffic enforcement including the proposal that breaches of the road traffic law that lack the elements of deliberation or recklessness should no longer be criminal offences and should be dealt with by special traffic courts as traffic breaches.As my right hon. and learned Friend said in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend on 23rd July, it is too early to make a statement on these proposals. The Law Society has been informed that they will be carefully considered.

Nuclear Attack

42.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consider the publication of an official up-to-date account of the probable effects of a nuclear attack on Great Britain, for the information of the general public in addition to Civil Defence workers.

The effects of a nuclear attack on this country depend on many factors that cannot be determined in advance and any overall assessment would necessarily be speculative. There would no doubt be heavy casualties and widespread destruction: there would also be millions of survivors.A number of official publications give information about the effects of nuclear explosions, including the Manual of Civil Defence: Volume I, Pamphlet No. 1, "Nuclear Weapons" and a pamphlet entitled "The Hydrogen Bomb".

Riding Establishments

43.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the list by counties showing the number of riding establishments licensed under the Riding Establishment Act, 1964, and the number which have been refused licences.

I regret that the information is not available. I am writing to the hon. Member about the matter.

50 Mph Speed Limit

45.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what advice he is issuing to police authorities with a view to ensuring that a special watch will be kept on the 500 miles of roads on which a special 50 miles per hour limit has been imposed.

The attention of the chief officers of police concerned has been drawn to these lengths of road and I am confident that they will take the best measures open to them to enforce the speed limit, in the light of their resources and commitments.

Synagogues And Jewish Buildings (Arson)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many cases of arson against synagogues and other Jewish communal buildings have been reported to him; and whether, in view of two further cases in the metropolitan area, he will now call for reports from chief constables on violence and arson by Fascist organisations and their sympathisers.

I have received reports of 12 incidents that have occurred since 1st September, 1964, most of them in the Metropolitan Police District. I am kept fully informed by the Commissioner, and I am satisfied that the police are paying special attention to the prevention of these incidents and the detection of those responsible. I do not consider that there are any grounds for asking chief constables generally for special reports.

Sir Roger Casement (Diaries And Papers)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what diaries, documents or papers which belonged to Sir Roger Casement are still retained at the Home Office or Scotland Yard.

None. The only papers other than the diaries which belonged to Casement, and are still retained as public records consist of notes and other material which he prepared or had with him in connection with his trial. These are in the Public Record Office.

Mental Patients (Detention By Police)

47.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will issue a circular to chief constables as to the action of police officers when they are requested to assist in the detention of a mental patient and as to whether they should be authorised to take such a person to prison instead of to hospital.

My right hon. and learned Friend has no reason to believe that the police require any further general guidance as to their responsibilities for the detention of mental patients. If my hon. Friend has some particular point in mind, I shall be glad to consider it.

Firearms And Ammunition (Surrender)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now make an appeal to the public for the surrender of firearms and ammunition.

Yes. When the provisions of the new firearms legislation increasing the penalties for illegally possessing a firearm or ammunition without a firearm certificate were being discussed, I said that I intended to provide an opportunity for the surrender of illegally held firearms to the police without fear of prosecution.I have accordingly asked chief officers of police in England and Wales to ensure that proceedings for unlawful possession are not taken against anyone who surrenders firearms or ammunition by the 30th October. My right hon. Friends the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Lord Advocate have also arranged that such proceedings will not be taken in Scotland. Firearms and ammunition may be handed in at any police station, and I appeal to everyone who has an unauthorised weapon to take this opportunity to dispose of it.

Court Of Criminal Appeal (Committee's Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive from the Interdepartmental Committee on the Court of Criminal Appeal a report, with recommendations, on the rules about loss of time by appellants what other matters are being considered by this Committee; and how soon he expects to be able to take action to implement the Committee's recommendations.

The Committee's Report has been received and will be presented to Parliament and published as soon as the necessary arrangements can be made. I am not yet ready to make a statement on the recommendations contained in the Report.The Committee's terms of reference were as follows:

To consider and report:—
  • (1) Whether it would be in the public interest to transfer the hearing of all or some of the cases now heard by the Court of Criminal Appeal (namely appeals and applications for leave to appeal against conviction, appeals against sentence and references by the Home Secretary) to the Court of Appeal or some other Court; and if so as to the manner in which that Court should be constituted, the powers it should have and the procedure to be followed.
  • (2) If in the view of the Committee the Court of Criminal Appeal should retain the whole or part of its current jurisdiction whether any and if so what changes are desirable
  • (a) in the constitution, powers, practice and procedure of the Court;
  • (b) in the system and procedure for giving notice of appeals and applications and in the functions and practice of the Criminal Appeal Office.
  • Police (University Graduates)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give the number of university graduates at present serving in the police forces of England and Wales, analysing the figure to show the number of graduates in each rank in each police force.

    I regret that this information is not available centrally in this form. I am having it collected and will write to the hon. Member.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for increasing the number of graduates in the police forces of England and Wales.

    In order to make more widely known the attractions of a police career to those of good education, an additional staff officer to Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary has recently been appointed to maintain contact with universities and schools, and to co-ordinate and encourage local liaison between individual universities and the police; an illustrated booklet will shortly be circulated to supplement the written information already sent to all university appointments boards; representatives of university appointments boards will be invited to visit the Police College at Bramshill; and the national police recruitment campaign will continue to include advertisements directed particularly at undergraduates, sixth-formers and their parents and careers advisers. Other steps are under consideration for following up the initial contacts made.Three police officers selected from those who had done especially well on the Special Course at the Police College are at present reading for degrees in law at University College, London. Five places will be available this autumn at University College, and three at the London School of Economics, to officers selected in the same way. My right hon. and learned Friend hopes to extend this Bramshill scholarship scheme to other universities and colleges. He is also considering, in consultation with the other interested bodies, whether a standard practice might be recommended as regards the circumstances in which individual police authorities might reimburse some of the expenses incurred by officers studying in their own time.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the maximum rate of pay of a university graduate on joining the Metropolitan Police; and what is the minimum period before he could be promoted from the rank of police constable.

    The answer to the first part of the Question is, if under 22, £700 a year; if 22 or over £800 a year; in both cases plus £20 London allowance and free accommodation or rent allowance. The answer to the second part is four years in the normal case, or a few months less in the case of officers selected for the Special Course at the Police College, who receive temporary promotion on joining the course.

    Police Recruits (Gce "A" Level Qualifications)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give the number of candidates with General Certificate of Education A level who were recruited into each of the police forces of England and Wales in each of the last five years.

    The number of recruits with two or more "A" levels who entered recruit training centres in England and Wales was 95 in 1962; 90 in 1963; and 103 in 1964. Figures are not available for each force or for earlier years, and my right hon. and learned Friend would not feel justified in asking for a special return.

    Ingleby Committee's Report (Implementation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made in implementing the Ingleby Committee Report of 1960 in arranging for the detection of families at risk to give them and their children special care and attention.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my reply of 1st July to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton, East (Mr. Robert Howarth) in which I indicated that the reports furnished by local authorities about measures under Section 1 of the Children and Young Persons Act, 1963, show that co-ordination between statutory and voluntary services is being strengthened, staffs are being expanded, family advice centres are being set up, and schemes of various kinds for assisting families at risk are being developed.

    Juvenile Delinquency

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the lack of scientific evidence of the causes of juvenile delinquency, as distinct from personal opinions, if he will examine the corn prehensive material assembled by Dr. Barnardo's Homes' workers which is not at present being utilised, and provide facilities, manpower and finance to help these efforts by the voluntary societies.

    My right hon. and learned Friend is very willing to consider any material relating to delinquency that may be submitted to him.

    Local Authority Welfare Services

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress is being made in the co-ordination of existing statutory social services under the departments of designated medical officers of health who alone have received the special training needed for a broad approach.

    A circular issued jointly by the Home Office, Ministry or Health, and Ministry of Education in July, 1950, invited the councils of counties and county boroughs to designate a senior officer to co-ordinate the work of statutory and voluntary services concerned with the welfare of families and children; and in some 40 instances the medical officer of health is the officer who has been so designated. My right hon. and learned Friend does not agree that medical officers of health alone are suited to undertake this responsibility. As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster said on 26th July in reply to Questions by the hon. Member for Norwich, North (Mr. Wallace) and the right hon. Member for Sutton Cold-field (Mr. Geoffrey Lloyd) the Government are considering the problem of improving the co-ordination of social services.

    Legal Aid (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average cost of legally aided cases in magistrates' courts when trial takes place, where depositions only are taken, at Quarter Sessions and Assizes; and what is the average cost of legally aided cases in civil actions in magistrates' courts.

    The average cost of legally aided defences is as follows:

    Magistrates' Courts (Summary trial)—£16.
    Magistrates' Courts (Committal proceedings)—£25.
    Assizes and Quarter Sessions—£68.
    Magistrates' Courts (Civil cases)—£16.
    The figure for Assizes and Quarter Sessions—for which separate figures are not available—is for 1963–64. The other figures are for 1964–65. The figure for civil cases in magistrates' courts is a gross figure without deduction of any costs or contributions that may be recovered.

    Immigrants (Refusal Of Entry)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for what reasons 60 alien and eight Commonwealth immigrants were refused entry to this country on medical grounds in 1964; and what action was taken in each case.

    Of the 60 aliens refused entry on medical grounds during 1964, 35 were, in the view of the medical inspector, suffering from mental disorders and the remaining 25 were refused leave to land on other medical grounds.Five Commonwealth citizens were refused entry during 1964 because they were suffering from mental disorders and 3 for other medical reasons.The normal practice is to require the carrying company to return a passenger refused entry to the port of his embarkation abroad.It is not possible to provide more detailed information about the cases without lengthy research.

    Fiji

    Constitutional Conference

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he will make a statement on the progress of the Fijian Constitutional Conference.

    The Fiji Constitutional Conference is continuing its discussions. As the hon. Member knows its proceedings are confidential. It is hoped to publish a White Paper after the Conference, setting out its conclusions.

    South Arabia And East Aden

    State Representatives (London Visit)

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies to what extent the presence in London at the present time, in their official capacities, of representatives of the States comprising the South Arabian Federation and the East Aden Protectorate, and their willingness to take part in the talks which he has arranged, are the result of agreement by the rulers concerned to abdicate their thrones in favour of a unitary State.

    Falkland Islands

    Development

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what are his plans for the development of the Falkland Islands.

    I hope it will shortly be possible to inform the Falkland Islands Government of their allocation of colonial development and welfare funds under the Overseas Development and Service Bill. I shall then be able to consider with the Falkland Islands Government their proposals for development expenditure in the period to be covered by the allocation.

    Service Personnel (Taxation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what plans he has for the taxation of the personnel of the Air Ministry and other Service Ministries serving in the Falkland Islands to pay their Income Tax to the Government of the Falkland Islands.

    This would involve amendment of the double taxation arrangements between Her Majesty's Government and the Falkland Islands Government. The implications of altering these arrangements would need to be carefully considered by both Governments.

    Economic Affairs

    Fountain Pen Covers (Prices)

    50.

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, if he is aware that firms engaged in the production of replacement covers for fountain pens are charging exorbitant prices; and if he will refer this matter to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

    My right hon. Friend is not aware of any general increase in these charges. If, however, the hon. Member would like to send details of any particular case he has in mind, we will be glad to consider them.

    Prices And Incomes Policy

    51.

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, by what criteria he will decide how long to persevere with the voluntary system in Her Majesty's Government's prices and incomes policy before he introduces the compulsory system which he considers to be inevitable if the voluntary appeal fails; and if he will make a statement.

    South-East Study (Sheppey)

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, to what extent he has taken account, in his current review of the last Government's South-East Study, of the special position of the Isle of Sheppey; what changes of policy he has made from that in the Study in this respect; what consideration he has given to the dissatisfaction of Kent County Council and other local authorities concerned that Sheppey was omitted from the Study; and what account he has taken of the representations made about this since he started his review.

    The points my hon. Friend raises will be considered in the next stage of the review.

    Board Of Trade

    Land, Wrexham (Disposal)

    52.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for the disposal of the land owned by his Department at Wrexham and occupied until recently by the Rubber Directorate; and if he will make a statement.

    I have authorised the opening of negotiations for the sale of the freehold of this 140-acre site to Firestone Tyre Rubber Co. Ltd. The company wishes to build on this site a large tyre-producing factory which will be an addition to its existing productive capacity in the United Kingdom. The project is expected to result in an increase in exports and a decrease in imports, and to bring employment opportunities to an area whose long-term employment prospects might otherwise have been problematical. I am aware that a statement was made in this House in 1961 by the previous Government that this site would be offered back to the former owners. That statement was based on the supposition that this site was subject to the policy evolved after the Crichel Down case. While I accept that the statement was made in good faith, the premises on which it was based do not seem to accord with the facts; the site has many old Royal Ordnance Factory buildings on it and cannot now be regarded as agricultural in character. Nevertheless, in view of the 1961 statement, the Government are prepared, in respect of cases submitted to them, to discuss making ex gratia payments to the former owners of the site or their successors.

    Pre-Packed Potatoes

    53.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that in the North of England it was common practice to sell pre-packed potatoes in ¼ stones and ½ stones and that the pre-packing of potatoes under the Weights and Measures Act 1963 is 1 lb., 1½ lb., and 5 lb.; and whether he will introduce amending legislation to conform with northern tradition.

    The Act allows pre-packing of potatoes in any desired multiple of one pound and I have seen no evidence that the disappearance of the quarter stone pack will give rise to any difficulty.

    Shipping Freight Rates

    asked the President of the Board of Trade, in view of the fact that shipping freight rates in the liner trades between the United States North Atlantic ports and United Kingdom ports discriminate against United Kingdom exports to the United States of America, if he will make representations to the United States Government on this matter; and whether he will make a statement.

    I am watching developments, but I am not yet in a position to make a statement.

    Industrial Development, Wales

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many new factories have been established in Wales since last October; and if he will indicate the location and number of jobs provided in each case.

    Fifty-two projects—including new factories and expansions of existing factories—for which industrial development certificates were issued, have been completed in Wales since 1st October last. These projects are estimated to provide 2,350 new jobs. Details of individual projects cannot be disclosed.

    Travel And Holiday Clubs Limited

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how long his inquiries into the affairs of Travel and Holiday Clubs Limited have been going on; if he will now publish the results of his findings; and whether he will make a statement.

    On 14th August, 1964, inspectors were appointed by the Board of Trade under Section 165(b) of the Companies Act, 1948, to investigate the affairs of Travel and Holiday Clubs Limited. They have made good progress but are prevented by litigation from reporting to the Board of Trade. It is likely that their report will now, in consequence, be delayed for some months. My right hon. Friend will decide whether to publish the report when he receives it.

    Travel Agencies

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the disappointment and loss suffered by members of the public whose holidays have been cancelled without compensation or return of their prepaid expenses, he will now introduce legislation requiring travel agencies to be registered with some appropriate body such as the Association of British Travel Agents, to be adequately insured, and to be subject to such other regulations for the protection of the public as recent experience has shown to be necessary.

    My right hon. Friend has at present nothing to add to the answer which he gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Blyth (Mr. Milne) on 8th July.

    Patent Office

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what proportion of the Patent Office Examiners have indicated their willingness, and what proportion their unwillingness, in the course of his present investigation into the question of moving the Patent Office to a new site possibly outside London, to move their homes to the neighbourhood of the new site if outside London.

    My right hon. Friend is investigating the possibility of moving the Patent Office to a place on the outskirts of the Greater London Council Area, or perhaps a little further, but with convenient access from Central London. The staff have expressed unwillingness to move their homes, but the extent to which this might be necessary cannot be determined until a possible location has been found.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what representations he has now received either from individual users of the Patent Office or from bodies representative of such users with regard to the suggestion that the Patent Office may be moved to a place on or beyond the outskirts of Greater London.

    My right hon. Friend has had a number of representations from people who are reluctant to accept that the Patent Office should be anywhere but in Central London.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many people use the Patent Office library on a normal working day; and approximately what proportion of such users are members, or employees, of firms of chartered patent agents practising in the vicinity of the library.

    About 460 people use the Patent Office library on a normal working day. Between 30 and 40 per cent. of these consult material relating directly to patents but I am unable to say how many of them are connected with firms of chartered patent agents. I should add that no proposal has been made to remove the Library from Central London.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what consultations he has now had with industry, the professions and others concerned as users of the Patent Office as to the desirability of keeping the Patent Office in Central London.

    My right hon. Friend has had no consultations since the Answer which he gave on 13th July to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Crewe (Mr. Scholefield Allen). The views of the interests concerned are quite clear but he has to consider whether they over-ride the paramount need to relieve the situation in Central London.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) why the proposal to locate the Patent Office on the South Bank site has been abandoned;(2) on what grounds he is considering the possibility of moving the Patent Office to a place on or beyond the outskirts of Greater London, in view of the concern aroused.

    I cannot usefully add at this stage to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Crewe (Mr. Scholefield Allen) on 13th July, except that, of course, the Government are concerned, wherever practicable, to relieve congestion in Central London.

    Scotland-Ireland Steamer Service

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware of the lack of facilities and the adverse conditions to which holiday makers are subjected while travelling on steamers operating between Scotland and Ireland; if he will introduce legislation to protect the travelling public; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend does not think that this is a matter which calls for legislation.

    Company Accounts (Disclosure Of Information)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for new companies legislation.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a statement regarding new companies legislation.

    As a first step, with due regard to the recommendations of the Jenkins Committee, a Bill is being prepared for introduction at an early date primarily to provide for the disclosure of information in company accounts.

    Post Office

    Division Bells (Private Accommodation)

    54.

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he is satisfied with the system whereby division bells are made available in certain private accommodation outside the Palace of Westminster; and if he will make a statement.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave to my hon. Friends the Members for Wrexham (Mr. J. Idwal Jones), Neath (Mr. Coleman) and Swansea. East (Mr. McBride) on 13th July.

    Exhibition Of Paintings

    asked the Postmaster-General what arrangements he has made for the exhibition of original paintings in post offices in the North-East.

    With the co-operation of the North Eastern Association for the Arts, I am arranging for works by local artists to be displayed in some 20 post offices in the North-East. Details will be announced later. I hope to extend the scheme elsewhere later.

    Fellowship Of Minuscule Design

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now give further details about the Fellowship of Minuscule Design.

    Yes. The Fellowship, which will be tenable for two years at the Royal College of Art, has been awarded to Mr. J. Andrew Restall, at present Senior Lecturer in Graphic Design at Coventry College of Art.

    Telephone Service

    Applications (Brighton)

    asked the Postmaster-General how many people are awaiting connection of telephones in Brighton; and when these connections will be made.

    In the four exchange areas serving the County Borough of Brighton, all applications for telephones are being met. On 30th June, the total number in course of completion was 369. Leaving aside orders held up waiting the customers' convenience, the majority of applicants are given service within two to three weeks.

    Dialling Codes

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will investigate the possibility of keeping letters for dialling telephone numbers within local areas, especially if the initial letters of subscriber trunk dialling code are not needed for local calls, in view of the fact that most telephone exchanges have a geographical significance which helps subscribers to remember names and numbers.

    I appreciate that the present system of dialling codes in London and the five large cities, based on the first three letters of exchange names, is an aid to memory. I would assure the hon. Member that the possibility of retaining exchange names and letter codes in these places was very thoroughly investigated. As I explained in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris) on 26th July, it has been concluded that letter codes would be incompatible with the full development of international dialling, and would be inadequate to meet the expected growth of the system. These changes were explained more fully in the Paper, "All-Figure Telephone Numbers", of which I sent the hon. Member a copy on 26th July. I should perhaps add that as subscriber trunk dialling codes are preceded by the digit 0 they are in an entirely separate series from local dialling codes, and do not affect the availability of letter codes for local calls.

    London Railway Termini (Public Telephones)

    asked the Postmaster-General, what has been the outcome of his consideration of making the inspection of public telephones at London railway termini more effective; and if he will make a statement.

    Arrangements have been made for the daily inspections of these telephone kiosks to be intensified, and to be extended to cover Saturdays at those stations where there is heavy weekend traffic. Routine inspections by engineers will be made 10 times as frequently, and emergency attention will be given to all faults during the hours each station is open to the public. The cleaning standards are also receiving attention. I hope that these changes will bring about a noticeable improvement in service. Special studies have also been put in hand to determine whether inspections can be better directed, and what kind of additional routine tests would be most effective.

    Wireless And Television

    Reception (Ayr)

    asked the Postmaster-General, whether he is aware of the poor television reception in Ayr; and what plans exist for improving it.

    Improvements in the quality of television reception in particular localities are primarily for the broadcasting authorities. The B.B.C. tell me they are at present seeking a site for a relay station to serve Ayr; and the I.T.A. that they will consider the claims of this area along with those of other places when planning future improvements to the coverage of their services.

    Ministry Of Labour

    Unofficial Strikes

    55.

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will set up a non-party committee to investigate why, in the first five months of 1965, 1,627,000 working days were lost through strikes compared with 1,211,000 in the same period of 1964 and 490,000 in 1963, and to recommend what punishment should be inflicted on the minority of agitators who foment these strikes against the advice of trade union leaders; and if he will make a statement.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member on 21st June.

    56.

    asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware of the growing anxiety throughout the trade union movement arising from the repeated demands for punishment of those in industry who, under provocation, withdraw their labour during industrial disputes; what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government in regard to such punishment; and if he will make a statement.

    I much regret some of the ill advised demands of this kind and would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Louth (Sir C. Osborne) on 21st June.

    Industrial Disputes (Withdrawal Of Labour)

    57.

    asked the Minister of Labour what representations he has received from the Trades Union Congress and individual trade unions about the repeated demands made for punishment of workers who withdraw their labour in industrial disputes; and what replies he has sent.

    Training Centres

    asked the Minister of Labour whether any cuts or delays will be imposed on the provision of training centres as a result of the recent economic measures.

    Unemployment, Scotland

    asked the Minister of Labour what estimate he has made of the long-term, short-term and frictional unemployment in Scotland which will result from the recent economic measures and from Her Majesty's Government's objective of positive redeployment of labour.

    A number of factors enter into our calculations as to the amount and location of manpower likely to be available for redeployment and no useful purpose would be served by giving estimates of the effect of one factor in isolation.

    Family Earnings

    asked the Minister of Labour approximately how many households, consisting of man and wife or man alone or wife or widow or unmarried mother alone, earn on average in total less while at work than they would receive but for the wages-stop under National Assistance if unemployed, classified, so far as practicable, according to type of employment, regional location and number of children in family.

    This information is not available. As was stated in reply to Questions on 22nd February and 26th July information about family earnings is based on a very small sample which does not permit a detailed breakdown.

    Professional, Clerical And Manual Workers

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will give a list of occupations, professional, clerical and manual, in which there is a shortage of qualified employees in the country as a whole today.

    There are shortages of employees of many types in many areas and I do not think it would be practicable to draw up a satisfactory and comprehensive list on the very broad basis suggested.

    Commonwealth Immigrants (White Paper)

    asked the Minister of Labour if Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, British Guiana, British Honduras, Barbados, and the Leeward and Windward Islands will all be regarded as separate Commonwealth countries within the terms of paragraph 16(ii) of the recent White Paper on immigration from the Commonwealth.

    National Finance

    Government Work (Merseyside)

    58.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action is being taken to transfer Government Departmental work from the London area to Merseyside, with particular reference to the Ministry of Aviation and the Ministry of Defence.

    Investment Allowances

    59.

    asked the Ckancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has for increasing the investment allowances available to industry in Scotland and other areas of relatively high unemployment.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to a similar question by the hon. Member for Newcastle-on-Tyne, North (Mr. R. W. Elliott) on 27th July.

    Customs Duties (Xmas Gifts)

    60.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will exempt from Customs duty gifts to the value of £10 sent by forces personnel to their families when they are serving overseas at Christmas.

    No. There are already quite generous duty concessions for Christmas and other gifts sent from abroad and it would not be possible, without unfairness to other sections of the community, to make a special Christmas concession for gifts from forces personnel.

    Housing, Schools And Hospitals

    61.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Government policy that programmes for housing, schools and hospitals are to be maintained means that these programmes are to be maintained in physical or money terms.

    For schools and hospitals programmes will be expressed in money terms, at constant prices. The programme for housing, while also within a money limit at constant prices, will be controlled physically by the numbers of public sector houses to be approved each year.

    Export Goods (Sale)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a special announcement to all exporters to urge against their selling British goods abroad below cost of production, since this increases our national indebtedness, or without securing a reasonable profit; and if he will make a statement.

    Stamp Duty

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that the instrument securing loan stock in an unquoted company is exempt from Stamp Duty, but when a company is quoted on a stock exchange the rate becomes 2s. 6d. per £100; and if he will make arrangements for Stamp Duty to be payable when a private company acquires a stock exchange quotation and wishes the loan stock to be negotiable.

    Loan capital duty is not chargeable in the case of a private company where the loan stock cannot be dealt in on a stock exchange in the United Kingdom, but I am advised that documents securing loan stock are liable to Stamp Duty under other heads in the Stamp Act. The suggestion put forward in the last part of the hon. Gentleman's Question would require legislation.

    Civil Service (Applicants)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the percentage of recruits to the administrative class of the Civil Service by direct entry from the universities of Oxford, Cambridge, Newcastle, Durham, Leeds, Sheffield, Manchester and Liverpool, respectively, in each of the periods 1948–53, 1954–59, 1960–64; and what percentage of these recruits in each period were previously educated at headmasters' conference schools.

    The following information has been supplied by the Civil Service Commissioners.

    UniversityNumber of RecruitsPercentage of Total RecruitsPercentage of Col. 1 Educated at Headmasters Conference Schools*
    Per cent.Per cent.
    Oxford
    1948–531164474
    1954–591274544·1
    1960–641134471
    Cambridge
    1948–53742856
    1954–591003644
    1960–64943763
    Newcastle
    1948–5310·4—
    1954–59———
    1960–6410·4—
    Durham
    1948–53———
    1954–5910·35—
    1960–64———
    Leeds
    1948–53———
    1954–5910·35—
    1960–6420·850
    Sheffield
    1948–53———
    1954–59———
    1960–64———
    Manchester
    1948–5320·8—
    1954–5920·7—
    1960–6410·4—
    Liverpool
    1948–5310·4100
    1954–5920·7—
    1960–6410·4—

    Note: Information about the schools of entrants in 1948 is not available. Column 3 therefore covers 1949–1953 where appropriate.

    Revenue

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what increase in revenue he anticipates in the year 1965–66 compared with 1964–65; and how much this increase represents per head of population.

    The Budget estimates of revenue in 1965–66 are £869 million higher than the 1964–65 Outturn. This represents an increase of about £16 per head of the population of the United Kingdom.

    Balance Of Payments

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the figures relating to the balance of payments deficit for each month for 1964 and for 1965 to date; and by what date he now plans to resolve Great Britain's balance of payments difficulties, in view of the Government's economic policies to that end.

    Monthly figures are not available. The deficit on current and long-term capital transactions was as follows:—

    1964£ million
    1st Quarter-140
    2nd Quarter-174
    3rd Quarter-251
    4th Quarter-180
    1965
    1st Quarter-97
    It remains the Government's objective to restore equilibrium in the course of next year.

    Roads

    Construction (Administrative Procedure)

    62.

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will list the administrative procedures which have to be followed between the decision to build a new motorway and an all-purpose road, respectively, and the contractor beginning work on site, giving the minimum time it is possible to take for each stage including, where applicable, undertaking a number of stages simultaneously.

    These procedures are described in paragraphs 172 to 182 of the Report on "Roads in England and Wales" for the year ended 31st March, 1964 presented to Parliament by my predecessor.The time taken for these procedures depends upon the size and complexity of the scheme and the number and nature of objections to it.

    Improvement Grants (The Wrekin)

    asked the Minister of Transport, what grants his Department has made available to the Shropshire County Council for trunk and other road improvements in the Wrekin Division of Shropshire since October, 1964; and in what area and on what roads the work has been started.

    £90,000 for maintenance and improvement of trunk roads and £76,000 for classified roads. The details are as follows:—

    AreaRoad
    WellingtonA.5 (4 schemes)
    B.5316
    B.5060
    Hadley Park Road
    NewportA.518 (2 schemes)
    B.5062
    B.4379
    ShifnalAstol Cross Roads
    TongeA.41
    A.464

    Improvement Schemes (Lancashire)

    asked the Minister of Transport, how many projects of major road improvement in Blackpool, Fylde, or North Lancashire there are whose commencement or completion will be delayed as a result of the recent financial policy changes; and whether he will indicate the delay in each case and the new date of completion.

    I have not yet completed my review of the schemes due to start over the next few months and decided which shall be postponed.

    Road Junction, Rugeley (Pedestrian Crossing)

    asked the Minister of Transport, if he is aware of the concern in Rugeley, Staffordshire, at his repeated refusal to authorise a pedestrian crossing at the intersection of the A51 and Red-brook Lane and that, in addition to the factors originally notified to him, namely, that there is a large estate nearby from which many children cross to a playground, there is a bus stop with special lay-by, a factory, and a county council welfare clinic; and if he will reconsider his earlier decision.

    I can assure my hon. Friend that most careful attention has been given to all the factors set out in his Question. I do not consider that this is a place for a pedestrian crossing, and I think it will be found that conditions are improved soon, when the current road works have been finished.

    Road Developments (Buchanan Report)

    asked the Minister of Transport, if he will specify which major road developments now under construction, or on which work is expected to start during 1965, have been designed on the principles of the Buchanan Report on Traffic in Towns.

    The principles of the Buchanan Report on Traffic in Towns are concerned chiefly with the shaping of urban plans as a whole; their applicability to the design of individual road schemes, therefore, varies widely. However, in selecting schemes for the urban road programme, I give preference to those which follow from an integrated approach to land use and transport planning.

    asked the Minister or Transport, whether the road developments associated with Her Majesty's Government's expansion plans for Ipswich, Peterborough and Northampton are being designed on the lines recommended in the Buchanan Report on Traffic in Towns.

    The Buchanan Report demonstrated the need for road developments to be related closely to land use plans. This principle is being adopted in the feasibility studies now being undertaken for Ipswich, Peterborough and Northampton.

    North Circular Road (Drainage)

    asked the Minister of Transport, if he is aware that during the heavy storm at midday on 20th July the North Circular Road, N.W.10 was flooded under the aqueduct, which carries the Grand Union Canal over it, to a depth of about three feet, causing traffic to be diverted through Wembley, and that it is frequently flooded to shallower depths in less heavy storms; and if he will take steps to improve the drainage of the road at this point.

    I am informed that on the day in question the rainfall was exceptional and more than the normal drainage system could be expected to accept. I am having inquiries made to establish the adequacy of the drainage system here in the light of past records, and I will write to the hon. Member.

    Overhead Road, Birmingham

    asked the Minister of Transport if he proposes to approve the overhead road at the Sheldon city boundary of Birmingham; what Government financial aid will be given to it; and whether the Birmingham City Council will be allowed to proceed with the works at its own expense.

    There is to be a meeting with representatives of the Birmingham City Council to discuss these matters.

    Road Programme

    asked the Minister of Transport what effect the Government's economic measures will have upon the road programme; if he will bear in mind the importance of continuing to the maximum extent with improvements in this country's communications; and in what way the road programme in Nottinghamshire will be affected.

    I explained to the House on 3rd August the way in which the Government's economic measures were likely to affect the road programme. The position of any road schemes in Nottinghamshire which are due to start in the next few months will depend on the outcome of my review.

    asked the Minister of Transport what are the figures for classified roads and for maintenance and minor works, respectively, corresponding to the £25 million for motorways and trunk roads which will be the estimated value of contracts to be postponed during the next six months.

    I am reviewing with the local authorities concerned the total cost of classified road new construction and major improvement schemes on which work is planned to start in the next six months, so that we can decide which schemes should be deferred and which should go on. The effect of the measures announced by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on maintenance and minor improvement expenditure will be small.

    asked the Minister of Transport what will be the approximate saving in expenditure during 1966–67 in consequence of the deferments which will save £1 million in the current financial year.

    The deferment for six months of about £25 million worth of motorway and trunk road schemes due to start in the next six months would result in a saving in expenditure of about £4 million in the financial year 1966–67. To this would be added any savings consequent upon the re-phasing of other schemes due to start beyond that period.

    M2 And A20(M) (Accidents)

    asked the Minister of Transport, if he will give details of the number of accidents, fatal and non-fatal,

    M.2
    Accidents
    MayJuneJuly
    FatalInjuryFatalInjuryFatalInjury
    1964……091509
    1965050647
    Casualties
    FatalSeriousSlightFatalSeriousSlightFatalSeriousSlight
    1964……00131170114
    1965……0370581079
    A.20(M)
    Accidents
    MayJuneJuly
    FatalInjuryFatalInjuryFatalInjury
    1964……020100
    1965……000101
    Casualties
    FatalSeriousSlightFatalSeriousSlightFatalSeriousSlight
    1964……015002000
    1965……000011001

    asked the Minister of Transport: if he is aware of the anxiety caused by the recent accidents on the M.2 and the A.20(M); and whether he will have inquiries made to see what action is needed.

    Yes, and I sympathise with it. Preliminary inquiries, however, show that each of the recent serious accidents involved causes peculiar to that accident and that there is no common cause which is susceptible to remedy by me.

    Western By-Pass, Kendal

    asked the Minister of Transport when he intends to commence construction of the Western By-pass around Kendal.

    This is a classified road scheme for which the Westmorland County Council are responsible. It was included in the last extension of the classified road programme for 1968–69. The information to enable design work to proceed is now being assembled.

    respectively, stating the number of people killed or injured, on the M.2 and A.20(M) in each of the last 12 weeks to the latest possible date for which figures are available; and how these compare with the same period last year.

    This information is not available on a weekly basis. Following are details of accidents occurring on these motorways in the last three months and in the equivalent period last year.

    Traffic Flow, Puddletown

    asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the serious delays at the T-junction in Puddle-town; and what steps he is taking, both short-and long-term, to facilitate the flow of traffic.

    Yes. Traffic signals are being installed as soon as possible. For the longer term, a by-pass is planned.

    Motorway Construction

    asked the Minister of Transport whether, in connection with motorway construction, he will make standard practice the publication of proposals for the alteration of existing roads, footpaths and other accesses before the proposed line of route of a motorway has been confirmed, as in the case of the northern section of the Manchester-Preston Motorway, M.61, in order to reduce the total time required for these procedures.

    We already do this wherever possible. But there is always the danger that, if the route has to be changed in response to objections, the work involved in devising the side road proposals will be wasted. It must, therefore, be a matter of judgment how far continued preparation can be justified before the route is confirmed.

    Speed Limit Signs (Siting)

    asked the Minister of Transport, if he will arrange for a more intensive siting of maximum speed signs in restricted areas.

    General directions governing the siting of speed limit signs already require signs to be erected on both sides of the road at each end of each restricted length, on both sides of each side road where it joins the restricted length and, where the limit is 30 or 40 m.p.h. and there are either no street lamps or such lamps are more than 200 yards apart, at intervals not exceeding 300 yards, or in some cases 325 yards, along the restricted road. I consider that these arrangements are adequate.

    M1 Catering Establishments (Prices)

    asked the Minister of Transport what proportion of retail meal costs at service areas on the M.1 motorway are attributable to the cost of leases granted by the Ministry of Transport.

    The proportion varies from site to site and in relation to levels of gross turnover, including fuel sales. It would require a wholly disproportionate amount of time to calculate the figures requested, and the results would have no significance.

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will request service area operators on the M.1 to lower the cost of coffee at self-service cafeterias, with a view to encouraging safer driving.

    Railways

    Non-Co-Operation (Southern Region)

    63.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a further statement on go-slow tactics on the Southern Region of British Railways; and whether he will take further initiatives to bring these practices, which have caused inconvenience to commuters, to an end.

    Following the recommendations of the Executive Committee of the Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen, non-co-operation on the part of the motormen on the Southern Region of British Railways has ceased. In present circumstances, further Government initiative would be inappropriate and unnecessary.

    Isle Of Wight

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will make modernisation a condition in his decision about the Isle of Wight railways.

    No. It is made clear in my letter of decision that expenditure on the modernisation of the Ryde-Shanklin line must be incurred to enable it to continue in operation.

    Transport

    Bus Services, Scotland

    asked the Minister of Transport, how many bus services in Scotland, which were considered by him to provide adequate means of alternative transport before he sanctioned local rail closures, have been withdrawn because of uneconomic running costs; and if, in view of the fact that the Traffic Commissioners who granted the licence cannot order a bus operator to continue a service if it is running at a loss, he will take steps to ensure that a bus service which is the only form of local public transport cannot be withdrawn without his consent.

    I have agreed to the withdrawal of one additional bus service provided under the conditions of consent to the Craigendoran-Arrochar closure. The Railways Board have also notified me of the withdrawal of an existing service at Invershin, but I understand that the station is still open.When the conditions of my consent require a new service to be provided as an alternative to rail, the Railways Board must see that it continues to run unless or until I vary the conditions. Where I am notified of withdrawal of an existing service listed in the consent, I can, if I think it necessary, vary my consent to require the service to be provided.

    Bus services generally are operated as commercial undertakings, and it would not be practicable to compel an operator to continue to run a service if for economic reasons he felt unable to do so and, therefore, surrendered his licence.

    Brs (Meat Haulage) Ltd

    asked the Minister of transport why he has agreed to a proposal transferring the interests of British Road Services, Meat Haulage, to a private company; and if he is satisfied that the interests of staff formerly employed in a nationalised undertaking have been fully protected.

    I am satisfied that the arrangement proposed by the Transport Holding Company is likely to result in the best use being made of the assets of B.R.S. (Meat Haulage) Ltd. in the very difficult circumstances that at present obtain in the meat haulage trade.The T.H.C. have assured me that the interests of the staff are protected by the established machinery for dealing with staff matters in consultation with the unions concerned.

    Scotland

    Cheese

    64.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much less cheese was made in Scotland in 1964 than in 1963 and what this represents in the cost of extra imports of cheese, having regard to the average buying price in each year.

    The quantity of cheese made in Scotland in 1964 was about 15,200 tons, some 1,300 tons or 8 per cent. less than in the preceding year. To have made this good by imports would have cost about £330,000 at 1964 prices.

    Medical Screening, Glasgow

    65.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware of the pilot scheme recently conducted by the Medical Officer of Health for Glasgow enabling men over 45 years of age to undergo a medical check, and of the unexpected large response to the invitation, shown by the understandable inability of the Public Health Department staff to cope with all who responded; and, in view of the need and desire for such a service, if he will seek to make similar facilities available, in the first instance, in one hospital in each of the large cities of Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee and Aberdeen.

    I understand that the Glasgow scheme for a medical check-up for men over 45 years of age has had a good response. No doubt other medical officers of health will consider, in conjunction with the local medical committees, whether similar screening procedures should be initiated in their areas; and will consult hospital authorities if it is desired to use their facilities.

    Ayr Bypass

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he now expects work to start on the completion of the Ayr Bypass.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave the hon. Member on 16th December.

    Hospitals, Ayrshire

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of the cuts there will now be in improvements and developments to hospitals in Ayrshire, as a result of the recent Government economic measures.

    School Building Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of which projects in the school building programme of Ayrshire County Council will now be postponed or cancelled as a result of the recent economic measures.

    School building programmes are not affected by the measures recently announced by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which local authorities will be affected by the decision to contain the existing school programmes within the present financial estimates, bearing in mind the rise in costs.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the Government's recent economy measures will lead to the curtailment or postponement of any works scheduled under the current two-and-a-half years' schoolbuilding programme for the county of Angus, in view of the rise in costs which is likely to have taken place before this programme has been completed.

    Technical Colleges (Capital Projects)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which technical colleges will have their programmes curtailed or deferred owing to the recent restrictions on capital investment.

    One or two projects outside the development districts may need to be deferred, but I shall be considering them individually.

    Civil Defence

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which civil defence programmes are to be curtailed or abolished.

    I cannot yet add to the reply that I gave the hon. Member for Dumfries (Mr. Monro) on 16th July.

    Highlands And Islands Development Board (Chairman)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will now announce the name of the first Chairman of the Highlands and Islands Development Board.

    I have appointed Professor Robert Grieve, Professor of Town and Regional Planning in the University of Glasgow, to be Chairman of the Highlands and Islands Development Board for a period of five years from 1st November, 1965, at a salary of £7,000 a year. The University Court has agreed to second Professor Grieve to take up the appointment on a whole-time basis, on the understanding that he will be available for consultation by the university on the development of its Department of Town and Regional Planning and its related research interests.

    Road Programme, Angus

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what effects the Government's recent economy measures will have on the road building programme for the County of Angus in the financial years 1965–66, 1966–67 and 1967–68, respectively.

    The county council has only one scheme on which work was due to start shortly, and its position is at present under consideration.

    Surgical Services, Angus (Reorganisation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the implementation of the Eastern Regional Hospital Board's proposals for the reorganisation of surgical services in the County of Angus will be postponed or otherwise affected by the Government's recent economy measures; and if he will make a statement.

    No. I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer's statement on 27th July.

    Public Building And Works

    Fire Losses

    66.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is his policy for reducing losses to the British economy by fire; and whether he will institute legislation to make fire precautions compulsory in all major new buildings.

    Present building bye-laws, and the Building Regulations which I have recently made, which will come into force on 1st February, 1966, provide for substantial structural fire protection for all new buildings in the interests of public health and safety. These provisions will indirectly do much to reduce economic losses through fire. I would also refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department to the hon. Member for Cheltenham (Mr. Dodds-Parker) on 3rd December, 1964.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will state the cost of losses by fire in each of the last five years in all buildings owned by Her Majesty's Government and not insured, together with those owned by nationalised industries and uninsured; and what it would cost to cover all such buildings by insurance in the market.

    The figures requested are not all available, but for buildings owned by my Ministry and not insured the losses by fire in each of the last five years were as follows:

    £
    196029,500
    196115,000
    19627,000
    196314,500
    196459,000
    I cannot say what it would cost to insure these buildings, but I am satisfied that the cost would exceed the losses incurred.

    Control Of Private Construction (Scotland)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of the number and location of projects within the private sector likely to be affected by the ceiling of £100,000 announced in the recent economic measures.

    I have been asked to reply.It is estimated that in Scotland there are about fifty projects annually in categories likely to be affected by the control of private construction. It is not possible to say what proportion of these is likely to be in Development Districts, and consequently exempt from control.

    Construction Industry (Metric System)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what steps he is taking to introduce the metric system in the construction industry.

    I am looking to the British Standards Institution to act as the focal point for the change. I understand that the Building Divisional Council of the B.S.I. have already put the preparatory work in hand and will be ready to consult the industry and the professions early next year. They will then draft a timetable for the change and will seek the industry's agreement to it. If the construction industry can agree through the B.S.I. to make the change in a systematic and orderly way, I can foresee that there will be great opportunities for advance in standardisation, dimensional co-ordination and the manufacture of building components for export.

    House Of Commons (Medical Facilities)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what have been the results of his consultations with the authorities of the House concerning the provision of medical facilities, including trained medical staff, at the House of Commons for the benefit of staff and Members in the event of illness.

    I understand that the authorities of the House have sought the advice of the Parliamentary Medical Committee whose proposals are expected shortly.

    Cement Supplies (Scotland)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works to what extent cement is now in short supply in Scotland.

    There is a marginal gap between supply and demand for cement nationally which is affecting supplies in Scotland, but it is not possible to give an exact measure of the extent of the shortage.

    Patent Office

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what use is envisaged for the buildings, or the site, now occupied by the Patent Office, if the office is moved to a place on or beyond the outskirts of Greater London.

    I have nothing to add to my reply to a similar Question by the hon. Member for Eton and Slough (Sir A. Meyer) on 26th July.

    Royal Palaces

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether the recently announced curbs on Government expenditure apply to all new works proposed for Royal Palaces.

    New works for the Royal Palaces are being reviewed along with the other new works for which my Ministry is responsible.

    House Of Commons Terrace (Photographs)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what steps he takes to ensure that the custodians apply the regulations of the House relating to photography by parties of hon. Members' visitors on the Terrace of the House.

    The regulations lay down that a permit issued by the Serjeant-at-Arms' office to a Member for photography on the Terrace is valid for all the members of the party he is conducting. They, however, may photograph only the Member himself—with his permission—or the remainder of their own party. I have consulted the authorities of the House, who have issued an instruction to the custodians to clarify the application of this regulation.

    Historic Buildings (Admission Charges)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what concessions he proposes to make for old-age pensioners visiting the ancient monuments in his control.

    I am glad to announce that from 1st September old-age pensioners will be admitted to the ancient monuments and historic buildings in the care of my right hon. Friend at half the normal admission charge. They will also be able to buy for 5s., or half the normal price, season tickets admitting the holder to any of these monuments over a period of twelve months.

    Ministry Of Defence

    Territorial Reserve (Regular Officers And Other Ranks)

    67.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Regular officers and other ranks are at present engaged in the training and administration of the Territorial Army and the Army Emergency Reserve; how many will be required if the strength of volunteer reservists is reduced to 50,000; and how many Regular officers and other ranks are likely to be retired prematurely as a result.

    About 3,000 Regular officers and soldiers are fully engaged in the training and administration of the Territorial Army and Army Emergency Reserve. The numbers required for similar duties in connection with the proposed Territorial Reserve and the extent of redundancy depend on the details of the reorganisation which have yet to be worked out in consultation with the Council of Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations.

    Reserve Army (Rôle)

    68.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what Civil Defence rôle the Territorial Army will in future be expected to perform, in the light of his proposal to end its rôle in support of the civil authorities in the post-nuclear phase of a nuclear attack on the United Kingdom; and approximately how many of the planned 40,000 strong Territorial Army will be trained for such a rôle.

    I have nothing to add to the statement of my right hon. Friend of 29th July which set out the future rôle of the reserve Army.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent, in deciding on the figure of 50,000 for an Army volunteer reserve, he assessed the numbers required to reinforce regular units to support the regular Army in limited war, and to provide reinforcements for the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation as our commitments require; and what numbers he estimates will be required for each of these three distinct rôles.

    Individual units of the Reserve will not be confined to particular rôles. The figure of 50,000 represents the total number of volunteer reservists required to meet all the rôles indicated in my right hon. Friend's statement. The number of men required to accept an "Ever-Ready" liability is 8,500, but this will include a proportion of Regular Reservists who volunteer for the additional liability.

    Officers (Recruitment)

    69.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied that advertisements in the Press seeking to recruit more officers to the Armed Forces are consistent with his policy of cutting arms expenditure; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. Our recruitment of officers is directly related to our requirements.

    Dockyard Workers (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will now review the wages of lower paid dockyard workers to bring their pay more in line with the national average.

    As I have explained in answer to previous Questions by the hon. and gallant Member, Dockyard wage rates are reviewed at regular intervals on a standard of comparison with outside rates agreed with the Trade Unions. The next review, covering all workpeople in H.M. Dockyards, will be carried out next month.

    Territorial Army (Civilian Employees)

    asked the Secretary of Sate for Defence to what extent the changes in the Territorial Army will affect civilian employment in Northern Ireland, Scotland and other parts of the United Kingdom.

    Until discussions with the Council of the Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations are completed, it is not possible to say how the employment of civilians working for Territorial Army and Auxiliary Forces Associations will be affected by the proposed reorganisation. The effect on civilians employed by the Army Department is being assessed, and I cannot give an estimate at present.

    Underwater Research Vehicles

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress has been made in supporting the design or construction of underwater research vehicles in the past five months.

    Reserve Army (Civilian Employees)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many civilians are at present employed by the Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Association and the Army Department in connection with the Reserve Army; and how many will become redundant as a result of its proposed reorganisation.

    About 6,000 civilians are employed by Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations. Only a limited number of civilians working for the Army Department are employed solely in connection with the Reserve Army, but the total work-load is estimated as the equivalent of a few thousand posts. As my right hon. Friend stated in the House on 29th July, the majority of the civilians employed by the Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations will become redundant, but it is not possible to be more precise until discussions with the Council of the Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations about the implementation of the proposed reorganisation have been completed. It is too early to say how many civilians employed by the Army Department will become redundant.

    Women's Royal Army Corps

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent the Women's Royal Army Corps is to be reduced in the reorganisation of the Territorial Army.

    Further details of the reorganisation will be published in the autumn, after consultation with the Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations. Subject to those discussions, we expect the reserve element of the Women's Royal Army Corps to be reduced to a relatively small number. There will be reductions in those parts of the regular Corps now engaged in administration of the Territorial Army, but I am not yet able to say what the numbers will be.

    Armed Forces (Recruiting)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much has been spent in the last 12 months on recruiting to the Armed Forces; and whether this will now be ended in view of the economies being aimed at in the arms programme.

    The answer to the first part of the Question is that expenditure in the financial year 1964–65 totalled some £12,150,000. The answer to the second part is "No".

    Armed Forces (Numbers)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will now consider a reduction of the numbers in the Armed Forces.

    This is, of course, one of the fundamental questions being considered in the course of the Defence Review.

    Aden Base

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proposals he has for the future of the base at Aden.

    Overseas Bases (Annual Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what is the total annual cost of maintaining the British base, including staff and weapons, in Aden;(2) what is the total annual cost of maintaining the British base, including staff and weapons, in Singapore;(3) what is the total annual cost of maintaining the British base, including staff and weapons, in Hong Kong;(4) what is the total annual cost of maintaining the British base, including staff and weapons, in Cyprus;(5) what is the total annual cost of maintaining the British bases, including staff and weapons, in Libya.

    The annual budgetary cost of the forces, including ships, and all H.Q. installations in the areas to which my hon. Friend refers, is roughly:

    £ million
    Aden35
    *Malaysia255
    Hong Kong15
    Cyprus25
    Libya10
    * Including Far East Fleet.

    Forces, Persian Gulf Area (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give the total annual cost, including weapons, of the maintenance of the base at Bahrain for each of the last five years.

    The current annual budgetary cost of our Forces, including Naval Forces, in and around the Persian Gulf is about £25 million. It is not possible to furnish figures for the last five years.

    Forces, Aden And Libya (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the total cost in each of the last five years of the Aden base, including weapons; and if he will give corresponding figures for the El Adam, Tobruk and Benghazi bases.

    The current annual budgetary costs of our Forces based on Aden is about £35 million and of those in Libya about £10 million. It is not possible to furnish figures for the last five years.

    Aircraft Carrier Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an assurance that there will be no cut in the aircraft carrier programme.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave to the honourable and gallant Member for Harrow, East (Commander Courtney) on 21st July.

    Other Ranks, Aden (Quarters)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what changes have been made in the accepted rules for the allocation of War Department quarters for other ranks stationed in Aden.

    Baor (Civilians)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the total number of German citizens employed by the British Army of the Rhine in each of the past five years and the annual cost of wages, salaries and other benefits.

    The total number of locally engaged civilians employed by the British Army of the Rhine in each of the past five years together with the cost of their wages, salaries and other benefits is as follows:

    YearNon-IndustrialIndustrialCost
    1961–628,47130,672
    1962–638,51729,954
    1963–647,71725,832£22,863,000
    1964–657,59224,774£22,996,000
    1965–667,28023,559£21,730,000
    It is not possible to say exactly how many are German citizens though the great majority will be. I regret that the costs for 1961–62 and 1962–63 are not readily available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated cost in German marks of employing West German civilians with the British Army of the Rhine for each of the next five years, on the present strength.

    The current cost of employing locally engaged civilians, most of whom are West Germans, with the British Army of the Rhine is about £21·7 million, all of which represents expenditure in German marks. Given present civilian strengths, this would be the figure for each of the next five years, but it does not allow for any future pay increases.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the estimated cost in German marks of employing West German civilians with the British Army of the Rhine for each of the last five years.

    £22,863,000 was spent on the employment of locally engaged civilians, mostly West Germans, in 1963–64, £22,996,000 in 1964–65, and it is estimated that £21,730,000 will be spent in 1965–66. These figures all involve expenditure in German marks. I regret that figures are not available for earlier years.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many West German civilians are employed by the British Army of the Rhine; and in what capacities they are so employed.

    The total number of locally employed civilians with the British Army of the Rhine is nearly 31,000, of whom the majority are West Germans. They are employed on essential administrative tasks in support of our military forces.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many West German civilians have been employed by the British Army of the Rhine during each of the last five years.

    39,143 locally engaged civilians, mostly West Germans, were employed by the British Army of the Rhine in 1961, 38,471 in 1962, 33,549 in 1963, 32,366 in 1964, and 30,839 in 1965.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the cost of employing West German civilians attached to the British Army of the Rhine over each of the last five years.

    The figures, which are available only for the last three years, are for 1963–64 £22,863,000, for 1964–65 £22,996,000 and for 1965–66 £21,730,000. These figures cover the costs of all locally engaged civilians with the British Army of the Rhine some of whom are not West Germans.

    Raf Staging Post, Can (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if he will give the total annual cost, including weapons, of the base on the island of Gan for each of the last five years;(2) if he will give the total annual cost, including weapons, of the base on the island of Gan for each of the last five years.

    The figures are:

    £ million
    1960–611·5
    1961–621·4
    1962–631·3
    1963–641·6
    1964–651·9

    The station is used by the R.A.F. as a staging post and the cost of weapons attributable to Gan is therefore nil.

    Baor

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will give the cost of the British Army of the Rhine in each of the last 10 years.

    The current annual cost of the British Army of the Rhine is some £160 million of which about £70 million involves expenditure of German marks. I regret that it is not possible to provide information about the total cost over the last 10 years.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will give the numbers of British ground forces in Germany in each of the last 10 years.

    Approximate totals for all ranks in the Army in the British Army of the Rhine and Berlin on the 1st April in the years 1956 to 1965 were 80,500, 74,000, 61,500, 54,500, 54,000, 56,000, 54,000, 56,500, 55,500 and 54,000 respectively.

    Ministry Of Power

    Crude Oil Imports (Prices)

    70.

    asked the Minister of Power whether he will take steps to ensure that subsidiaries of overseas oil companies operating in Great Britain are not overcharged for crude oil supplied by their parent companies, in view of the facts that the average cost, insurance and freight price of Libyan crude oil landed in the United Kingdom was $2·57 per barrel in 1964, while Italy received Libyan crude oil at $1·97 per barrel, that the difference in prices free on board Libya to the United Kingdom and Italy is over 20 per cent., that there is only one dominant oil company in this traffic and that the potential drain on the balance of payments is over £50 million per year.

    I cannot agree with all the figures and implications in my hon. Friend's Question. I am, however, keeping a watch on relative import prices here and elsewhere and on the overall effect on our balance of payments. There have been some recent reductions in the prices of crude oil imports into this country reflecting the discount adopted in the recent settlement between the oil companies and petroleum exporting countries.

    Advanced Gas-Cooled Nuclear Power Stations

    asked the Minister of Power what consideration has now been given to the possibility of exploiting the benefits of further advanced gas-cooled nuclear power stations of similar designs to Dungeness B, where advantage can be taken of the replication factor which could be in the region of 10 per cent. of capital cost; and if he will make a statement.

    I have not received any proposals from the Central Electricity Generating Board for nuclear stations to follow Dungeness "B". On the question of their costs, I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave the hon. Member for Basingstoke (Mr. Mitchell) on 13th July.

    Energy Advisory Council Meetings (Attendances)

    asked the Minister of Power if he will list the members who attended each of the two meetings of the Energy Advisory Council which took place on 8th February, 1965 and 13th May, 1965.

    The membership of the Energy Advisory Council was announced in the OFFICIAL REPORT on 22nd January. On 8th February, all the members there named attended except one: and on 13th May, all except two.

    Rate Increases (Letters)

    Q7.

    asked the Prime Minister how many letters he has received to date about general rate increases in England and Wales for the current year; and what reply he has sent.

    I have no exact record, but estimate that about 500 letters to me from the general public have dealt, at least in part, with some aspect of rates. The nature of the reply depends on the terms of the letter.

    Polaris Missile

    Q8.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will now make a statement on the testing of the British nuclear warhead and trigger mechanism for the Polaris missile.

    Q9.

    asked the Prime Minister what steps Her Majesty's Government take to ensure that the nuclear warheads for Britain's Polaris submarines will be in working order.

    I have nothing to add to the very clear explanations of our position which I have recently given in the House.

    Secretary Of State For Foreign Affairs (Speech)

    Q10.

    asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech on foreign policy made by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in Oxford on 16th June represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Minister Of Housing And Local Government (Speech)

    Q12.

    asked the Prime Minister whether the speech of the Minister of Housing and Local Government at Hove on Monday, 19th July, on the subject of rate relief, represented the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Yes. My right hon. Friend's speech accurately reflected Government thinking on these matters.

    MinisterJournal, etc.Date
    Chancellor of the ExchequerSunday Telegraph30th May, 1965.
    Secretary of State for Education and ScienceBuilding MaterialsSchool Building Issue of July, 1965.
    Minister of PensionsAn Open Letter to Editors of newspapers throughout the country12th July, 1965.
    Minister of State, Department of Economic Affairs (Mr. Albu)Northamptonshire Evening Telegraph17th June, 1965.

    United Nations Day (Flag)

    Q13.

    asked the Prime Minister what decision he has taken on whether to fly the United Nations flags on United Nations Day in Parliament Square and other Government buildings.

    I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the answer I gave on 3rd August to a similar Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Dover (Mr. Ennals).

    Steel (Nationalisation)

    Q14.

    asked the Prime Minister, in view of the present economic difficulties and the need further to stimulate confidence in the Government's determination to limit public expenditure, whether it remains the policy of Her Majesty's Government to introduce legislation for the nationalisation of steel in the next Session.

    I have nothing to add to earlier Government statements on this subject.

    Ministers (Letters To The Press)

    asked the Prime Minister if he will name those Ministers in the present Government who have written to the Press between 1st May and 31st July on matters within their official responsibility, the journals in which such letters have been published, and the dates of such publications.

    General Dental Practitioners (Remuneration)

    asked the Prime Minister whether Her Majesty's Government have completed their consideration of the Report of the Review Body on the Remuneration of General Dental Practitioners.

    Yes. The Government accept the Review Body's advice, which is reproduced in full below.It will be noted that the Review Body's present recommendation is not designed to provide dentists with a higher average net income during the current review period than was intended by the Review Body's previous recommendation which was accepted by the Government on 1st February.

    The following is the text of Lord Kindersley's letter of 13th July, 1965:—

    Cabinet Office, London, S.W.1.

    13 th July, 1965

    REVIEW BODY ON DOCTORS' AND DENTISTS' REMUNERATION

    Sixth Report

    Remuneration of General Dental Practitioners

    On 10th December, 1964, we submitted to you our Second Report, on the target average net income of general dental practitioners working wholly or partly as principals in the General Dental Services. The last paragraph of that Report read as follows:

    "10. After considering evidence about present and future levels of output, practice expenses and net income given to us by the Health Departments and the British Dental Association, we have decided to recommend that the level of average net income from now on until our next review should be that which would result from leaving the scale of fees now in operation unchanged during that period. The effect of this will be to increase average net income over the whole of the period covered by our recommendations last year, by an amount which we consider to be justified by the increased personal effort which the dentists have been putting into their work, including particularly the longer hours of working. This recommendation is not intended to preclude adjustments within the fee scale that do not alter average net income." You announced the Government's acceptance of this recommendation in the House of Commons on 1st February, 1965.

    2. We have recently received submissions from the British Dental Association and the Health Departments revising the estimates of average gross earnings and average practice expenses which were placed before us when we were deciding upon our recommendation last year. Statistical information that has recently become available shows that the earlier estimates made no allowance for a change in the structure of the profession since the beginning of 1964 and insufficient allowance for the rate at which practice expenses have been increasing. Though the estimates now given to us by the British Dental Association differ somewhat from those given to us by the Health Departments, on either set of estimates it is clear that the fee scale is yielding and would, if unchanged, continue to yield a lower average net income than that which we envisaged when we made our recommendation last December. In other words, that recommendation is not achieving the result which we intended.

    3. The Health Departments have invited us to frame a revised recommendation in terms of the fee scale rather than of target net income. We should however be reluctant to do that, since it is the function of the Dental Rates Study Group to determine the scale of fees which can he expected to produce a given level of average net income. We are therefore framing our revised recommendation in terms of net income.

    4. We have confined our consideration on this occasion to the change that is needed to bring about the result which we intended should be brought about by our recommendation last December, taking into account the change in the structure of the profession and the revised estimates which have been drawn to our attention. Our present recommendation is not designed to yield a higher level of average income over the whole of the period covered by our recommendations in 1963 than we intended last December. The target net income will be reviewed in the usual way at our next general review.

    5. We recommend that the scale of fees should be adjusted so as to yield average net income at the rate of £2,950 a year. We trust that the Dental Rates Study Group wilt reach early agreement on changes of fees that can be expected to produce this result, since we regard it as important that the new level of average net income should come into effect as quickly as possible. We recommend that the new scale of fees should be payable from the earliest convenient date after it has been agreed by the Group on all courses of treatment begun on or after that date.

    (Signed) KINDERSLEY.

    The Right Hon. Harold Wilson, O.B.E., M.P., 10, Downing Street, London, S.W.1.

    Universities (Ministerial Responsibility)

    asked the Prime Minister to what extent the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Secretary of State for Wales share in Ministerial responsibility for matters relating to universities; and if he will take steps to increase such responsibility.

    asked the Prime Minister to what extent the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Secretary of State for Wales share in Ministerial responsibility for matters relating to universities.

    In making appointments to the University Grants Committee, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science consults my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and for Wales, and he transmits to them copies of formal reports from the Committee. My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and for Wales are also brought into consultation on issues of importance to universities in Scotland or in Wales respectively.Moreover, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland, who is directly responsible in Scotland for matters relating to schools and to non-university institutions of higher education—colleges of education and technical colleges—is brought into consultation on major issues affecting the relationships between universities on the one hand, and Scottish schools or other institutions of higher education on the other. In addition to the usual processes of consultation between Ministers, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland is for this reason represented at meetings of the University Grants Committee by the Secretary of the Scottish Education Department as an assessor. The Secretary for Welsh Education, with whom my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales keeps in close and regular contact, is being joined to the Committee as an assessor.On matters of special concern to Scotland or to Wales, my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales respectively may, by arrangement with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, answer Questions in the House.My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland is solely responsible for making submissions to The Queen in respect of Regius appointments at Scottish universities, and for Parliamentary issues relating to the Universities (Scotland) Acts.

    Council Of Europe (Delegation)

    asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement about the delegation to the Council of Europe.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Bulls (Licensing Procedure)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why the procedure for transferring Scottish bull licences with the change of the animal to English ownership is not adopted in the case of bulls licensed in Eire.

    The arrangements in force for Scottish bulls have been made within the framework of the Improvement of Live Stock (Licensing of Bulls) Act, 1931, as amended, which applies both to England and Wales and to Scotland. My right hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland have no responsibility for the licensing of bulls outside Great Britain, and any bulls Imported from the Irish Republic are subject to the requirements of our legislation.

    Irish Milk

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to prevent the flooding of the British market by Irish milk, which will otherwise result from the planned increase of 40 per cent. over the next three years announced by the Irish Milk Marketing Board.

    My right hon. Friend has no control over the production of milk outside the United Kingdom, but we have no reason to believe that Irish milk is likely to enter the British liquid milk market.

    Agriculture And Horticulture Act (Grants)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what is the average time between original applications for grants under the Agriculture and Horticulture Act and their approval in Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire and Lincolnshire respectively; (2) what percentage of original applications for grants under the Agriculture and Horticulture Act have been granted in Norfolk, Lincolnshire, Cambridgeshire and Suffolk, respectively.

    I regret that it would not be possible to provide this information without undue expenditure of time and labour. But if my hon. Friend has any particular problem in mind, perhaps he would write to me.

    Apple And Pear Development Council

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, what has been the outcome of his discussions with the National Farmers' Union on the means of ascertaining the views of growers on the proposed Apple and Pear Development Council.

    To assist me in deciding whether to seek Parliamentary authority for the establishment of a Development Council for the apple and pear growing industry, I have decided to seek directly the views of the growers who would be called upon to meet the cost of such a council. My Department will send these growers an individual inquiry by post towards the end of the year when the work of harvesting the apple and pear crops has been completed.

    Farm Business Recording Scheme

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, whether he will now announce further details of the Farm Business Recording Scheme.

    I hope to announce full details of the Scheme after the summer recess. But I am now able to say that a pilot scheme will be introduced this year in the East Riding of Yorkshire as well as in the areas announced in my reply of 19th May to the hon. Member for Westmorland.

    Stipendiary Magistrate, (Manchester)

    asked the Attorney-General what is the present position with regard to the appointment of a stipendiary magistrate for the City of Manchester; and whether he will make a statement.

    A petition for the appointment of a stipendiary magistrate for the City of Manchester has been received by my right hon. and learned Friend the Home Secretary. My noble friend the Lord Chancellor informs me that he expects to recommend to Her Majesty the name of a suitable person for this appointment within the next few days.

    Ministry Of Aviation

    Concord Project

    asked the Minister of Aviation what change there has been in the policy of Her Majesty's Government of giving full backing to development of the Concord project.

    United States Aircraft (Sub-Contracts)

    asked the Minister of Aviation whether, in the placing of subcontracts for construction of United States aircraft purchased by Her Majesty's Government, he will ensure that all firms in the aviation industry, which are capable of undertaking the work, will be allowed to tender, regardless of their size.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer my right hon. Friend gave him on 23rd June in reply to a similar Question. The size of a firm is not in itself a decisive factor and we must be satisfied that a firm has the capacity to undertake the particular work for which it is being considered.

    London-Overseas Routes (Passenger Survey)

    asked the Minister of Aviation when he will publish the findings of his Department's survey of the origin and destination in the United Kingdom of passengers on air routes between London and overseas.

    I hope to have this information available by the autumn. Though I will not necessarily be giving the findings of the survey general publication I shall certainly be prepared to pass them on to any local authorities, airlines and others that may be interested.

    Speke Airport Accident (Report)

    asked the Minister of Aviation when the Commission of Inquiry into the recent disaster near Speke Airport is likely to report; and whether this report will be published.

    A report will be published on completion of the investigation but, because of the technical matters

    Old ChargesNew Charges
    LONDON (HEATHROW)
    As from 1st June, 1965
    0–2 hrs.……2/-0–2 hrs.……2/-
    2–12 hrs.……5/-2–3 hrs.……6/-
    12–24 hrs.……10/-3–4 hrs.……8/-
    —4–5 hrs.……10/-
    24 hrs.……48/-
    2/- per hr. thereafter
    1–2 days……£1
    2–3 days……£2
    3–4 days……£3
    Over 4 days—additional £2 per day or part
    BELFAST (ALDERGROVE)
    As from 1st May, 19650–30 mins.……free0–30 mins……free
    30 mins.-6 hrs.…1/-30 mins.-2 hrs.…1/-
    6–24 hrs.……2/-2–8 hrs.……2/-
    8–24 hrs.……3/-
    EDINBURGH (TURNHOUSE)
    As from 1st April, 19650–2 hrs.……1/-0–30 mins.……free
    30 mins.-1 hr.…1/-
    2–8 hrs.……2/-1–2 hrs.……2/-
    2–8 hrs.……4/-
    8–16 hrs.……2/68–18 hrs.……5/-
    16–24 hrs.……3/-18–24 hrs.……7/6
    PRESTWICK
    As from 19th June, 19650–30 mins.……free0–20 mins……free
    0–2 hrs.……1/-0–2 hrs.……1/6
    2–8 hrs.……2/-2–8 hrs.……2/6
    8–16 hrs.……2/68–16 hrs.……3/6
    16–24 hrs.……3/-16–24 hrs.……4/6

    involved, no indication can at present be given of the probable date.

    Airports (Car Parking Charges)

    asked the Minister of Aviation what improved facilities at Turnhouse Airport, Edinburgh, justified an increase of 150 per cent. from 3s. to 7s. 6d., in the daily charge for open air car parking from 1st April, 1965; why he authorised such an increase in the charge; and if he is satisfied that this increase is in keeping with Her Majesty's Government's prices and incomes policy.

    These charges were raised to limit the demand for the restricted parking space available at Turnhouse. Without such an increase in charges congestion would have upset the working of the airport.

    asked the Minister of Aviation what increases he has authorised since 1st January 1965 in the daily charges for open air car parking at the principal airports.

    Since 1st January, 1965, the daily charges for open air car parking have been increased at the following state-owned airports:—

    Ghana

    Former Residents (Repatriation Of Capital)

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations, if he is aware that some former residents of Ghana, now repatriated to Great Britain, are still unable to repatriate their capital; and if he will make representations to the Government of Ghana about this.

    Yes. The British High Commissioner in Accra has been pursuing a number of individual cases with the Ghana authorities, and these have recently been supplemented by representations on the general issue to the High Commissioner for Ghana in London.

    Duchy Of Lancaster

    Social Services (Review)

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what consideration he is giving, in his review of the social services, to the need for accommodation for short stay care for the disabled and elderly, in view of the need for holidays both for such persons and for those who look after them.

    Diplomatic Service (Vacancies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the procedure for advertising legal vacancies in Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service.

    Vacancies for legal advisers in the Diplomatic Service are filled through competitions conducted by the Civil Service Commission. These vacancies are usually advertised in the following papers:

    • The Times.
    • Daily Telegraph.
    • Sunday Times.
    • The Observer.
    • Glasgow Herald.
    • The Scotsman.
    • Law Times.
    • The Solicitors Journal.
    • The Scots Law Times.
    • Law Society Gazette.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many of the successful applicants for Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service during the past five years went to headmasters' conference schools.

    The Diplomatic Service did not come into existence until 1st January, 1965. The number of successful applicants for entry into the administrative and executive classes of the former Foreign Service from 1960 to 1964 inclusive, educated at headmasters' conference schools, was 116 out of a total entry of 259. I would also refer my hon. Friend to the reply my hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, East (Mr. Rhodes) on 28th July.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many of the applicants for Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service from Manchester University, all of whom were unsuccessful, went to headmasters' conference schools.

    I regret that the information requested by my hon. Friend is not readily available. I will, with permission, send it to him as soon as I can.

    British Visitors' Passports

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, why visitors' passports obtained from Ministry of Labour Offices cannot be renewed annually; and if he will revise the regulations to enable this to be done.

    The administrative arrangements for the issue of British visitors' passports have been made as simple and cheap as possible so that applicants may obtain them with the minimum of formality and expense. To change the system so as to allow for renewals would involve not only the introduction of additional processes but also the concurrence of all the countries with which Her Majesty's Government have entered into agreements for the acceptance of these one-year passports.Large numbers of holders of British visitors' passports replace them, when they expire, by ordinary passports which are normally valid for five years and renewable for a further five years. It is not considered that the demand for the renewal of British visitors' passports would justify the change proposed.

    British And Yugoslav Travellers (Visas)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will initiate discussions with the Yugoslav Government to secure the abolition of visas for British and Yugoslav travellers.

    No, but I would point out that by agreement with the Yugoslav Government visas for United Kingdom and Yugoslav travellers will as from 1st September be issued free of charge.

    Ministry Of Health

    Cervical Cancer Tests (Cost)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the cost per test of cervical cancer tests; what savings in cost can be made by working on a larger population area; and whether there is an optimum population size for a test area.

    Costs per test in hospital laboratories are not yet separately established; under present methods of examination it is considered that this service can best be provided and expanded as part of the existing pathology services, and the population area is therefore determined by the pattern of the existing service; savings in cost are more likely to arise from eventual changes in method of examination than from changes in population area under present methods.

    Whooping Cough Vaccines

    asked the Minister of Health, in view of concern about the effectiveness of pertussis vaccines, what steps he has taken, or proposes to take, to ensure that all whooping cough vaccines in current use are effective against prevalent strains or pertussis in the United Kingdom.

    I am aware of recent reports that some whooping cough vaccines at present in use may not be fully effective against some of the prevalent types of whooping cough organism. This matter is being pursued in co-operation with the Medical Research Council with a view to ensuring that the vaccines issued shall be fully effective against all types of whooping cough organism likely to be encountered.

    Medic-Alert Foundation

    asked the Minister of Health what plans he has for assisting the extension of the activities of the Medic-Alert Foundation to provide easily-accessible information to doctors about serious allergies, diabetes, epilepsy, bleeding tendencies, the taking of anticoagulants, and active immunisation against tetanus and particularly to assist such a service to be extended to those exposed to industrial hazards such as toxic exposures or those liable to compressed-air sickness.

    None. This is a private scheme and it is for the organisers to decide what facilities it should provide.

    Preventive Medicine

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that less than 5 per cent. of the National Health Service budget is used to prevent sickness and that 10 per cent. of adults need medical attention yet do not heed warning signs; and if he will ensure that more emphasis is given to preventive medicine.

    No reliable estimate can be made of expenditure on preventive medicine which, as my hon. Friend implies, may extend from actual prevention to early diagnosis and treatment. The importance of preventive medicine in both senses is fully recognised and it is my policy to encourage its development in all branches of the National Health Service.

    Old People's Homes

    asked the Minister of Health whether Government policy limiting expenditure by local authorities includes county council capital programmes for old people's homes; and whether such capital programmes requiring loan sanction by the Government for 1966 and 1967 will be amended or reduced.

    My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his statement on 27th July referred to the Government's intention to slow down the rate of expenditure on capital projects. I shall shortly be sending a circular to local authorities giving guidance as regards their health and welfare projects.

    Commonwealth Immigrants (Medical Tests)

    asked the Minister of Health what medical tests it is proposed in future to apply to Commonwealth immigrants and their families, and to alien immigrants and their families.

    Infertility Treatment (Hormones)

    asked the Minister of Health what control is exercised over the use of fertility hormone treatment under the National Health Service; and if he will make a statement.

    Any new hormone preparation promoted commercially would be subject to checks by the Committee on Safety of Drugs before clinical trials or marketing and hence before general use in the National Health Service. The pituitary hormone extract for the treatment of infertility is available only in extremely small quantities and it is used in this country in investigations carried out by the United Birmingham Hospitals in association with the Medical Research Council.

    Local Government

    Knockholt

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will hold a public inquiry into the application of Knockholt for its exclusion from Greater London under Section 6 of the London Government Act; and when a public inquiry will be held.

    As the hon. Member is aware, I am in consultation with the local authorities affected by this application. I shall consider the question of an inquiry as soon as the consultations have been completed.

    Life-Saving Apparatus

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will call for a report from local authorities which are responsible for coastal areas in regard to the proposed regulations for minimum lifesaving apparatus in view of the suggestions made in pages 33 to 38 in the 1964–65 Report of the Medical Commission on Accident Prevention, a copy of which has been sent to him.

    My Department's Circular No. 52/65, issued on 6th July, asked local authorities to review their areas to make sure that everything possible is done to prevent loss of life through drowning. Attention was drawn to their powers to provide life-saving apparatus. Before deciding whether to approach local authorities on the suggestions in the Commission's Report, I am having these suggestions examined in the Department.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) whether he will introduce legislation specifying the minimum standards of lifesaving apparatus which all who profit from the public use of beaches should apply in accordance with the recommendation made in the Medical Commission on Accident Prevention's Report, 1964–65, concerning coast rescue; and whether he will apply this legislation equally to inland water within public access, in view of the fact that most of the drownings occur at such places;(2) whether he will take steps to ensure that life-saving patrols are provided in Great Britain; whether he is aware that, owing to high-pressure advertising and misleading labels, retailers and purchasers alike are frequently unaware that what are being offered for sale as life-jackets are not life-jackets, but a buoyancy aid which is virtually useless to non-swimmers, for unconscious persons, or for those incapable of movement owing to cold; and what steps are being taken to advise amateur yachtsmen and dinghy sailors of what they should purchase to provide for their safety.

    My Department's Circular No. 52/65, sent to all local authorities in England on 6th July, asked them to review their areas to make sure that everything possible is done to prevent loss of life through drowning. Attention was drawn to their powers, in the Public Health Act, 1936 and elsewhere, to provide life-saving appliances and patrols. I do not think further legislation is required at present, but I will see that the matters raised in the Commission's report are considered in the Department.Misleading advertisements and advice to sailors are matters for my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.

    Regular Servicemen (Houses)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps are being taken by local authorities to provide houses for regular Servicemen on retirement; and whether the residence qualification is being waived in these cases.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to a Question by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) on 3rd August.

    London Overspill

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a further statement about his plans for London overspill in the light of the completion of the first part of the Government's review of the South-East Study and the fact that London overspill is now larger than previously estimated.

    My right hon. Friend, the First Secretary of State, made it clear in his statement on the South East that further provision for London's overspill would be considered in the second part of the review, which is now under way.

    County Planning Committees (Teachers)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware that teachers are, by reason of their status as county council employees, debarred from serving on county planning committees; what proposals he has to alter this; and whether he will make a statement.

    The general rule embodied in the Local Government Act, 1933, is that an employee of a local authority may not serve as a member of that local authority or of one of its committees. The underlying principle is that the same man cannot be both master and servant.

    Land And Natural Resources

    Natural Resources Advisory Committee (Appointment)

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources whether he has now filled the vacancy for an industrialist in the Natural Resources Advisory Committee.

    I am glad to say that Lord Brown, M.B.E., Chairman of the Glacier Metal Company, has consented to serve on this Committee under Sir Dudley Stamp's chairmanship. Lord Brown's experience in industry will prove of great value to the Committee in its consideration of the problems associated with the availability and use of natural resources in Great Britain.

    Forestry Commission (Headquarters)

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources what representations he has received regarding the proposed siting of the Forestry Commission Headquarters in Basingstoke.

    Recommendations about the siting of the Forestry Commission office in Basingstoke have been made by the Royal Scottish Forestry Society to my right hon. Friends the Prime Minister and the Secretary of State for Scotland. I myself have been advised by the hon. Member for Roxburgh, Selkirk and Peebles (Mr. Steel) of concern expressed by one of his constituents who is a member of the Council of the Royal Scottish Forestry Society.

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources how many employees of the Forestry Commission will be based at the proposed new headquarters in Basingstoke; and how many administrative staff will be employed by the Commission elsewhere.

    About 140 employees of the Forestry Commission will be based at Basingstoke. This figure includes staff in a variety of grades—professional, administrative, executive and clerical. On the assumption that the reference to administrative staff in the second part of the Question is to staff similarly employed in other Commission Offices, as distinct from officers employed in the field, the number of staff who will be employed in offices other than Basingstoke is 986.

    Tree Preservation Orders

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources whether he will introduce legislation to provide severer penalties for illegal felling of trees contrary to a tree preservation order made under Section 29 of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1962.

    The penalty for felling trees in contravention of a Tree Preservation Order is a matter which I am keeping in mind in my review of proposals to amend the legislation on National Parks and associated matters.

    Overseas Development

    Zambia (Ex-Non-Designated Civil Service Officers)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development if consideration will be given to re-employing on overseas aid terms the experienced ex-non-designated Civil Service officers in Zambia already in post who wish to continue their service after January, 1966; and whether such proposals will form part of the British technical aid programme.

    I hope that these officers will continue in the employment of the Government of Zambia for as long as they are needed. However any who elect to leave their present employment will be eligible to apply for appointments on overseas aid terms to vacancies for which the Government of Zambia asks me to recruit, after they have re-established permanent residence in Britain for at least one year.

    Pensions And National Insurance

    Personal Cases (Stoke-On-Trent)

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if she will give special attention to the needs of T. Clarke, 64, Dunrobin Street, Florence, Longton, who started work in the Stafford Colliery at 15 years of age, is now 62 years of age and worked on the coal face for 30 years, who suffers from bronchitis, emphysema and pneumoconiosis.

    I am having inquiries made and will write to my hon. Friend when they are complete.

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if she will given special attention to the needs of B. Budworth, 30 Hilgreen Road, Sandford Hill, Longton, who worked in the pottery industry for 41 years and who suffers from bronchitis, emphysema and pneumoconiosis.

    I understand that Mr. Budworth has recently made a claim for industrial disablement benefit for pneumoconiosis which will be dealt with by the independent statutory authorities in the ordinary way. I will write to my hon. Friend when it has been decided.

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what action it is proposed to take in the case of Cyril Wilmot Briggs, of 67 Bradbury Lane, Hednesford, who had worked in a foundry, and was operated on for lung cancer in the North Staffordshire Infirmary, during which operation it was found that the suspected cause of death was pneumoconiosis; and if he is aware that this is further evidence of the complications created by pneumoconiosis and an acceleration of its worsening effects on the human organs.

    Inquiries are being made about Mr. Briggs's case and I will write to my hon. Friend when these have been completed.

    Pensioners (Local Authority And Welfare Services)

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance whether she will take steps to arrange for the name and address of each person reaching pensionable age to be supplied to the local authority and to the local old peoples' welfare committee.

    My Department has already co-operated in this matter. A card about local authority and welfare services can be sent with the notice of award of pension at the request of the local authority or the local old people's welfare committee with the agreement of the local authority. This is a matter on which I have received a number of representations and I am writing to the hon. Member.

    Old People (Assistance)

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what plans she has for giving immediate help to old age non-pensioners, in view of the postponement of her proposals for an incomes guarantee.

    I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Wills) on 28th July.

    Technology

    Police Forces (Computers)

    asked the Minister of Technology whether he will arrange for his Computer Advisory Unit to consider applications for computers in the police forces of England, Wales and Scotland.

    The Computer Advisory Service is already in touch with the Home Office regarding computer application for police forces in England and Wales, and arrangements are in hand for discussions covering Scotland.

    Computer Programmers

    asked the Minister of Technology if he will seek power to end discrimination against women in employment as computer programmers.

    My right hon. Friend is not aware of any discrimination against women in employment as computer programmers. If the hon. Member has some specific practice in mind and would care to send me particulars, my right hon. Friend will look into the matter.

    Wales

    Local Government Reorganisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what progress has been made with local government reorganisation in Wales.

    The Interdepartmental Working Party which I set up earlier this year to consider the reorganisation of local government in Wales has received advice from a number of experts in this field and has made a preliminary analysis of the problems involved. It is progressing as speedily as is compatible with the scale and complexity of this difficult subject.

    National Parks (Access Agreements)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he is taking to conclude access agreements under the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act, 1949; and if he will make a statement.

    Under this Act, it is for the local planning authorities to consider what additional access to the countryside is needed. My right hon. Friend will be very ready to consider any proposals which they may wish to submit for his approval.

    Industrial Sites (Register)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will take steps to compile an industrial site register for Wales, listing situation, acreage, and availability of services; and if he will make a statement.

    No. Such a system would be unlikely to provide such full and up-to-date information as is already obtainable from the Board of Trade and local planning authorities.

    National Plan For Ports

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales when the Welsh Economic Council will consider the National Plan for Ports.