Skip to main content

Written Answers

Volume 722: debated on Monday 13 December 1965

The text on this page has been created from Hansard archive content, it may contain typographical errors.

Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 13th December, 1965

Nato (Europe Mobile Force)

3.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the Government's policy on the proposal for a North Atlantic Treaty Organisation mobile military force, as presented at the recent Western European Union assembly in Document 355; and if he will make a statement.

Her Majesty's Government fully support the Allied Command Europe Mobile Force, to which we contribute an infantry battalion group and a tactical air squadron. The recommendation adopted by the Assembly of the Westren European Union will be considered in the Western European Union Council, where the Government will discuss it with their allies.

Ussr (British Consulates)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the Consular Convention between the Soviet Union and the United Kingdom include arrangements as to the establishment of consulates outside Moscow.

When it comes into force, the Consular Convention which my right hon. Friend signed with Mr. Gromyko in Moscow on 2nd December will permit the opening of consulates outside the respective capitals. The establishing of a post will be subject in each case to the consent of the receiving State.

United Nations

Voluntary Contributions

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs which nations have given voluntary contributtions to assist the financial difficulties of the United Nations in the last five months.

Since the announcement on 21st June of voluntary contributions by six nations, including ourselves, a further 15 nations have pledged voluntary contributions. Follow- ing is the complete list, together with the amounts pledged.

$
Canada4,000,000
Denmark1,000,000
Finland600,000
Ghana20,000
Greece50,000
Iceland80,000
Italy1,500,000
Jamaica10,000
Kuwait500,000
Liberia8,000
Mali5,000
Malta9,000
Nigeria20,000
Norway700,000
Sudan100,000
Sweden2,000,000
Tunisia5,000
Uganda5,000
United Kingdom10,000,000
Yugoslavia100,000
Zambia14,000
Total$20,726,000

Rhodesia

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will propose to the Security Council of the United Nations that it should call upon the members of the United Nations to apply against Rhodesia the measures not involving the use of armed force which are set out in Article 41 of the Charter, namely, the complete or partial interruption of economic relations, and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio, and other means of communications, and the severance of diplomatic relations.

The Government of Kenya has made this call and the Security Council is meeting this afternoon in New York.

Channel Tunnel Survey

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, whether, in view of the fact that the Channel Tunnel Survey is now satisfactorily completed, he will call a meeting of Governments concerned to enable the project to be undertaken without further delay.

No. The French and British Governments are awaiting the report on the survey. When it has been received and studied we shall be better able to judge when the next meeting between the two Governments should be held.

East Germany

Twinning Of Towns

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is Her Majesty's Government's policy towards the establishment of links between British and East German towns; and if he will make a statement.

The twinning of towns, as it is sometimes called, is a matter for local authorities to decide, but Her Majesty's Government make it clear, if consulted, that in present circumstances there are difficulties in entering into such arrangements with local authorities in East Germany. Because of these difficulties we do not see much likelihood of town-twinning arrangements with East Germany leading to a happy association.

Relations

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what new proposals he has for improving relations between Great Britain and East Germany.

Brazil (British Consulate, Recife)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the cost of maintaining the consulate at Recife, Brazil; and whether it is of benefit to Great Britain's export trade.

The cost of maintaining Her Majesty's consulate at Recife, Brazil, during the twelve months ending 30th June, 1965, was £10,773.It is impossible to assess with precision the benefit to our export trade of an individual consulate, which must be regarded rather as a member of a team comprising the embassy and its subordinate consular posts. In the past few years, however, considerable quantities of jute mill and textile machinery, to a total value of at least £650,000 have been exported to the north and north-east of Brazil.

Rhodesia

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the number of members of the United Nations that are imposing sanctions against Rhodesia and on the efficacy of these sanctions.

I give below the list of countries. The general support for our economic measures has been satisfactory, and is steadily extending as countries are able to take necessary sary administrative decisions.Following is the list:

  • 1. The following countries have placed a complete embargo on trade with Rhodesia: Denmark, India, Israel, Jamaica, Kenya, Libya, Malaysia, Nigeria, Norway, Singapore, Sweden, Tanzania and Trinidad and Uganda.
  • 2. The following countries which take a significant quantity of Rhodesian tobacco have imposed a ban on imports of tobacco from Rhodesia: Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, New Zealand and the United Kingdom Colonies.
  • 3. The following countries which take a significant quantity of Rhodesian sugar have placed a ban on imports of sugar from Rhodesia: Australia, Canada and the United States of America.
  • 4. In addition Australia and Canada have taken action against commodities covering about 90 per cent. of their imports from Rhodesia.
  • 5. We expect these measures to be very effective indeed in bringing home to the Smith regime the consequences of the illegal declaration of independence.
  • European Free Trade Association And European Economic Community

    47.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will hold early consultations with the European Free Trade Association countries with a view to a joint fresh approach being made to combine the European Free Trade Area with the European Economic Community.

    At their meeting at Copenhagen on 28th and 29th October the European Free Trade Association Ministerial Council reaffirmed their readiness to begin a dialogue between European Free Trade Association and the European Economic Community, with a view to establishing closer relations between the two groups, and the Community have been informed of this. The question of further consultations with the European Free Trade Association countries does not therefore arise at present.

    Saudi Arabia (Sale Of Air- Craft And Missiles)

    44.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he has had concerning the sale to Saudi Arabia of £63 million worth of aircraft and missiles; and if he will make a statement on what Great Britain is supplying or proposing to supply to that country in the way of arms.

    I have had no representations concerning the sale of aircraft and missiles to Saudi Arabia. British firms have submitted proposals to the Saudi Arabian Government, but I regret that I am not in a position to give details.

    Germany

    East German Citizens (Defection)

    51 and 52.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (1) what evidence he has of West German representatives abroad using British representatives and their offices to persuade nationals of East Germany not to return home;(2) what representations he has made on the undesirability of West German Government representatives using British official representatives to persuade East German nationals abroad not to return home.

    I refer the hon. Lady to my answer to her supplementary question on this subject on 6th December. The letter despatched from the German Embassy in Nicosia did not warrant formal representations to the Federal Government. It was an isolated case and there is, therefore, no need for representations to the Federal Government on the general question.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he proposes to make to the West German Government concerning the unauthorised use last August of the name and address of the British High Commissioner in Nicosia by Richard Giesen, an official of the West German Embassy in Cyprus, urging members of an East German orchestra to defect from their country.

    I refer the hon. Lady to my answer to her supplementary question on this subject on 6th December. The letter despatched from the German Embassy in Nicosia did not warrant formal representations to the Federal Government. It was an isolated case and there is, therefore, no need for representations to the Federal Government on the general question.

    Nuclear Weapons

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will seek in the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation to end the arming of West German aircraft with nuclear bombs and of West German missiles with nuclear warheads.

    Reunification

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is satisfied that an agreement with the Soviet Union is the only peaceful means of reuniting the two Germanies; and to what extent his discussions with the Soviet Government in Moscow recently were conducted on this basis.

    The reunification of Germany is primarily the responsibility of Britain, France, the United States and the Soviet Union, the four Powers to whom Germany surrendered in 1945. Reunification and a final peace settlement can therefore only come about with the agreement of these powers, including the Soviet Union. In the discussions on Germany during his recent visit to Moscow, my right hon. Friend based himself on this principle of quadripartite responsibility for Germany.

    United Kingdom And Germany (Youth Exchanges)

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what arrangements he is making to increase youth exchanges with the Federal Republic of Germany.

    Youth exchanges between this country and the Federal Republic of Germany are running at a reasonable level as a result of the work of many voluntary organisations, local authorities, schools and also as a result of private initiative. However, as the House will recall, Her Majesty The Queen announced in her Berlin speech during the State Visit to Germany earlier this year that these exchanges would be increased by the help of Government funds. Last month a two-day meeting was held in London with the competent German authorities under British Council chairmanship to explore ways and means of increasing these exchanges in the next financial year. Not only was a pattern of exchanges established for next year but it was proposed to set up a Special British-German Committee which would keep the subject under review and report periodically to the Mixed British-German Cultural Commission.

    Vietnam

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the most recent occasion on which he had consultations with U Thant about the possibility of achieving peace in Vietnam.

    When the Secretary-General visited London last July my right hon. Friend held detailed discussions on Vietnam and since then we have had further confidential exchanges with the Secretary-General. We are both well aware of the other's views, but unhappily there have been no new developments which would have made it useful to hold fresh talks in recent months.

    54.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he has made, as co-Chairman of the Geneva Conference, to the Government of the United States of America to be given detailed reports of the scale of casualties in the Vietnam war.

    Indonesia And Malaysia

    55.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what proposals he has made in recent weeks to the Government of Indonesia for a joint discussion about the ending of the warlike operations in Malaysia.

    None. An honourable settlement can only be achieved by agreement among the countries principally concerned: Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia.

    Mein Kampf (New Edition)

    57.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what official representations he has received during the last 18 months from other Governments asking him to prevent the publication in Great Britain of a new edition of "Mein Kampf" with a special foreword for political students.

    United States Of America (Export Missions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he has received from Midland chambers of commerce as to the facilities afforded to them in the United States of America by the staffs of the British Embassy and British consulates in their export promotions.

    I have investigated the criticisms made of the arrangements for this visit and conclude that there were certain shortcomings in the organisation of the Mission's programme in New York. These were due mainly to the failure of the Leicester Chamber of Commerce to provide adequate information about the Mission's requirements, but partly also to some lack of co-ordination between the Leicester Chamber, the British-American Chamber of Commerce, which was in general charge of the arrangements, and the Consulate-General. The Consulate-General which was brought in at a very late stage has already expressed regret. I am glad to say that arrangements for the visits of this Mission to Los Angeles and Chicago appear to have been satisfactory and the tour of the United States in general to have been regarded as successful.The criticisms expressed by the Leicester Chamber are notably at variance with the many tributes paid by exporters of wide experience, including other export missions, who have found our staff, whether at New York or elsewhere, efficient and helpful. As hon. Members will know, commercial work is now a first charge on the resources of the Diplomatic Service. It is up to individual export missions to brief themselves in good time on the markets which they propose to visit and to let chambers of commerce and our posts abroad know their requirements well in advance.

    Suez Canal (Rhodesian Imports And Exports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what imports from, or exports to, Rhodesia have been confiscated by the Suez Canal Authority.

    The position remains as described in my reply on 29th November to the hon. Gentleman the Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall). So far as I am aware, no goods have been confiscated by the United Arab Authorities in this connection.

    Polaris Submarines

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if, as an early contribution towards securing a nonproliferation treaty, and as an encouragement to non-nuclear Powers to remain non-nuclear, Her Majesty's Government will propose the sale of the British Polaris submarines to the United States of America.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave him on 6th December.

    Land And Natural Resources

    Operators Of Mineral Undertakings

    58.

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources if industrial developers and the operators of mineral undertakings fall within the category of estate developers, for the purpose of paragraph 32 of the White Paper on the Land Commission.

    No. However, I recognise that operators of mineral undertakings face certain special problems and I propose to give them an exemption from liability to levy when they start development after the appointed day for any land which was in their ownership at the time of the date of the publication of the White Paper.

    Land Commission Levy (Effective Dates)

    59.

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources to what extent the date of publication of the White Paper is relevant in deciding whether levy is payable under paragraph 32 of Command Paper No. 2771.

    Paragraph 32 of the White Paper provides exemption from liability to levy in certain circumstances for builders and estate developers when they start development for housing after the appointed day. The date of the publication of the White Paper is relevant since the exemption applies only if the builder owned, or was under a binding contract to buy, the land and had planning permission for the development at that date.

    Water Resources Board (Re-Use Of Water)

    60.

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources whether he will draw the attention of the Water Resources Board to the need for stimulating the re-use of water, particularly by industrial users, on the lines of the circular issued by the Birmingham Water Department, a copy of which has been sent to him.

    The Board knows of what the Birmingham Water Department and others are doing to show firms that they can benefit the community and themselves be re-using water, and is in consultation with the Confederation of British Industries about what more can be done. I shall keep a close watch on this.

    Countryside Policy

    63.

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources when he will be able to report on his review of the countryside and suggested areas of recreation; and whether the Norfolk Broads will be included in such a scheme.

    When the consultations I am having with local authority associations and others are completed. I do not contemplate singling areas like the Broads for special treatment, but I think my proposals will be found helpful there as elsewhere.

    Public Building And Works

    Lancaster House And Marlborough House

    64.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what facilities for public access to Lancaster House and Marlborough House will be available between now and Easter, 1966.

    Lancaster House is closed to the public until Easter, 1966. Marlborough House is open on weekday afternoons when other arrangements permit.

    Fountains Abbey

    65 and 68.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works (1) if he is satisfied that Fountains Abbey will be made accessible to the public by the new owners; and what assurances he has received that the fabric of the building will be adequately maintained and the beauty of the surrounding landscape not impaired;(2) if he is aware that Fountains Abbey and its surrounds have come into the market for the second time within three months; what steps he intends to take to prevent the Abbey from being exploited; and if he will take action to see that the Abbey, Fountains Hall and the surrounding land become public property and are available to the public for all time and maintained in good condition.

    The owners have assured me they will continue to maintain the Abbey, respect its surroundings, and provide for public access for as long as they hold the property.My information is that the Abbey and its immediate surroundings have not again been put up for sale and I am not contemplating making an offer for it.I would, of course, consider taking the Abbey into guardianship if it was offered to the Ministry.

    No 10 Downing Street

    66.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what inquiry has been held into the rebuilding of Downing Street.

    I would refer the right hon. Member to the Third Report by the Committee of Public Accounts 1962–63 and the Select Committee on Estimates, 12th Report 1962–63 and 8th Special Report 1963–64.In addition, as my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister said in answer to a Question on 25th November, I recently carried out a personal inquiry into the further repairs to No. 10 which have now been found to be necessary.

    Parliament Square (Redevelopment)

    67.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works why he has refused an inquiry into the redevelopment of the Parliament Square area.

    The Government have already accepted the principle of the Martin and Buchanan reports, which were in themselves a wide-ranging inquiry.

    Epping Forest

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will give an assurance that he will not exercise his powers so as to derogate from the provisions of Sections 7 and 9 of the Epping Forest Act 1878 that the Forest should at all times be kept uninclosed and unbuilt on as an open space for the recreation and enjoyment of the public; and how often in the last five years his powers have been exercised without the consent of the Corporation of the City of London as Conservators of Epping Forest.

    My right hon. Friend would consult the Conservators about any proposal of the Ministry affecting Epping Forest. The answer to the last part of the Question is, never.

    Winter Building Techniques

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works (1) what developments have taken place in improving winter building techniques over the past 12 months;(2) what steps he has taken to encourage the use of special construction methods in severe weather.

    In conjunction with industry, we are continuing our studies into new ways of overcoming the problems of building in winter and bad weather generally. More and better forms of site heating, protective enclosures, insulation, and lighting are becoming available. A catalogue listing winter building equipment is available. Last winter, the Department tested basic techniques and equipment on two sites in Scotland; this winter, some of the most modern equipment and techniques from Europe, Canada, and the U.K. are being evaluated on one of the Ministry's housing sites near Colchester. A short film illustrating modern winter building techniques suitable for the medium-sized and smaller firms has been produced. This is being shown throughout the country in conjunction with a series of lectures by our Winter Building Adviser and others. Work is continuing on the encouragement of all these techniques for enhancing the productivity of traditional building during severe weather. When industrialised methods are used the necessity for other precautions is usually much reduced.

    Palace Of Westminster (Window Cleaners)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works how many window cleaners have been injured while at work in the Palace of Westminster; and what was the nature of their injuries.

    My information is that there have not been any accidents in the last fifteen years. If one did occur to a contractor's employee, it would be the contractor's responsibility.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what precautions are taken for the safety of men engaged in window-cleaning in the Palace of Westminster.

    My Ministry provide specialist tackle and cradles for use in cleaning the main facades. The contractor is responsible for observing proper safety precautions and my officers see that these conditions are carried out.Because of the structure of the building, normal safety precautions, such as "eyes", are not practicable.

    Pensions And National Insurance

    Disabled Persons

    69.

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance how many registered disabled persons are not in receipt of any financial help from National insurance and National Assistance funds.

    Disabled Service Men

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance why the allowance of 7s. 6d. per week for each child of a 100 per cent. disabled Service man, and the allowance of 10s. per week for the wife of a 100 per cent. disabled Service man have remained unchanged since 1919; and what plans she has to bring these allowances into line with contemporary levels.

    These allowances are obsolete and my right hon. Friend has no plans to increase them.

    Deserted Wives (National Assistance)

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what was the total amount of benefit paid by the National Assistance Board to deserted wives who had obtained a court order which was not complied with by the deserting husband, for each of the years 1963, 1964 and the first nine months of 1965.

    I regret that the information required is not available. Separate statistics are not obtained of the amounts of National Assistance paid to deserted wives who have court orders. The total amount of assistance paid to all categories of deserted wives, including those with court orders not being complied with, was £21,531,000 in 1963 and £22,653,000 in 1964. Figures for the first nine months of 1965 are not available.

    Retirement Pensions

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what would be the annual cost to the National Insurance Fund of paying a pension based on that proportion of the retirement or widow's pension not covered by contributions at the present date to those surviving old people excluded from the National Insurance Scheme in 1948, allowing for the saving on National Assistance.

    No estimate such as the hon. Gentleman asks for is possible, for the reasons I gave in answer to the hon. Member for Blackpool, South (Mr. Blaker) on 5th February.

    Old-Age Non-Pensioners

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance (1) how many old people still survive who were excluded from the National Insurance Scheme in 1948 and receive no form of State pension; what is their average age at the present date; and whether she will make a statement on the future policy of Her Majesty's Government towards them;(2) what would be the estimated annual cost to the National Insurance Fund, and saving on National Assistance, of paying a full retirement or widow's pension to those surviving old people who were excluded from the National Insurance Scheme in 1948.

    The number of men and women who were too old to enter insurance in 1948 and who are not receiving any pension from my Department is at present estimated at about 225,000, this figure includes a number who are receiving non-contributory old-age pensions. Their average age is thought to be about 84. The annual cost to the National Insurance Fund of paying them full pensions would be about £45 million immediately, with a saving of £17 million in payments by the National Assistance Board, but I must emphasise that it would not be possible to deal with this class of non-pensioner in isolation. I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave on the general issue to the hon. Members for Roxburgh, Selkirk and Peebles (Mr. David Steel) and for Barry (Mr. Gower) on 22nd November.

    Supplementary Assistance And National Assistance, Hull

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if she will state the approximate number of supplementary pensioners in the Hull area, the approximate number who have been granted the additional winter weekly coal allowance, and how much fuel this allowance is intended to purchase.

    In the area served by the National Assistance Board's offices in Hull there were at 28th September last 13,076 pensioners (including noncontributory old age pensioners) receiving supplementary assistance. In addition National Assistance allowances were being paid to 1,101 persons over pensionable age but not in receipt of national insurance or non-contributory old age pensions. Some of the allowances provided for the needs of more than one person (generally married couples). The number in the Hull area receiving a special addition for extra fuel in winter is not known. This special provision, which is of course in addition to the amount included in the basic scale rate for normal fuel requirements, is generally an amount sufficient to cover the cost of a half hundred-weight of medium quality coal.

    asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance if she will state the approximate number of retirement pensioners in the Hull area who have been granted the additional winter weekly coal allowance because of sickness, or serious dampness of house, or other reasons, respectively.

    Hospitals

    Pharmacists

    70.

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware that a shortage of pharmacists in the Hospital Service is forcing hospital management committees to make increasing use of forms EC10, HP, thereby adding to the cost of drugs; and what steps are being taken to ease this position.

    The use of these forms now appears to be decreasing. Salary increases agreed for hospital pharmacists in May, and for student pharmacists in October, have been made widely known to the profession and to schools of pharmacy.

    Staff (Advertisements)

    71.

    asked the Minister of Health, in view of the need for economy, if he will direct that advertising for staff, particularly medical, nursing, professional and technical, be centralised through regional hospital boards.

    Advertisements for senior medical staff and for whole-time nurses are already made by regional hospital hoards and, in the case of nurses, grouped together in the professional journals in regional blocks. While centralisation would not be appropriate for all staff advertising, my right hon. Friend will bear my hon. Friend's suggestion in mind, if experience suggests that extension of the existing arrangements to other types of staff is desirable.

    New Hospital, Huddersfield (Pay And Amenity Beds)

    72.

    asked the Minister of Health how many private pay beds and amenity beds have been requested for the new hospital at Lindley in Huddersfield by the Leeds Regional Board; and how many he has approved.

    The number of pay beds and amenity beds to be provided at this hospital is under consideration and I am not yet ready to make a statement.

    Nurses (Recruitment)

    73.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will make a statement on the dearth of hospital nurses, the number of vacancies, the inducements offered to recruitment and the result of such inducements.

    In March when the last returns were made, the number of nurses in hospitals was the highest ever, but I know that many hospitals still need more staff. Details of local assessments of needs are not collected centrally. The current national nursing publicity campaign, designed to support local effort, draws attention among other matters to improvements in the pay and conditions of service and the response to it has been encouraging.

    Building Costs

    74.

    asked the Minister of Health by how much the cost of hospital building has risen in the 12 months from October, 1964, to October, 1965.

    It is not possible to give precise figures. Costs of new building generally have risen by about three per cent., but as the Hospital Building Note Cost Allowances have not been changed, the increase in the cost of hospital building is much less.

    Building Projects

    75.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will give the individual details and cost of the five hospital building projects deferred from the 1965–66 programme, of the further 20 unable to start, of the nine schemes whose start has been brought into the programme for 1965–66, and of the 10 whose start was carried over from the previous year.

    The information is as follows:

    5 projects deferred from 1965–66Estimated Cost
    £
    Norfolk and Norwich: boiler house, mortuary and workshops456,578
    Upton, Northampton: new psychiatric hospital2,512,585
    Midland Centre for neurosurgery Smethwick—ward unit, isotope department and residential accommodation240,000
    Queen Elizabeth, Birmingham: medical staff residence164,000
    Caernarvon and Anglesey General Hospital nurses' home171,000
    Further 20 unable to start
    Dovenby Hall, Cockermouth: 2 villas for children and provision of temporary school122,782
    Halifax General: maternity unit750,300
    Bierley Hall, Bradford: development699,845
    Nottingham General: 81 surgical beds, operating theatres, Central Sterile Supply Department, kitchen, dining room etc.1,607,000
    Nottingham City: renewal of 16 ward unit Phase II213,500
    Northgate, Great Yarmouth: maternity unit150,000
    Hammersmith: central ward block5,833,000
    North Middlesex: maternity and clinical block3,179,036
    Goodmayes, Ilford: area laundry272,412
    Borocourt, Nr. Reading: blind children's unit120,580
    Northampton General: pathological laboratory195,000
    Bristol Royal Infirmary: school of nursing243,000
    New Cross Wolverhampton: maternity unit, psychiatric unit and boiler house3,120,206
    Whitley, Coventry: geriatric accommodation72,000
    Queen Elizabeth, Birmingham: west wing, stage I2,073,500
    Queen Elizabeth, Birmingham: new school of nursing, stage I675,000
    Walton, Liverpool: neurosurgical unit1,191,624
    Ormskirk: interim out-patient department100,000
    Royal South Hants: radiotherapy unit1,011,495
    Bryn-y-Neuadd, Llanfairfechan: new hospital2 134,030

    9 brought forward into 1965–66 programme

    Estimated Cost £

    Grantham and Kesteven: new kitchen, stores and staff dining accommodation132,550
    Lincoln County Hospital: new maternity unit1,032,856
    Mount Vernon Hospital, Northwood: out-patient and accident department341,830
    West Hendon: regional unit for psychopaths224,950
    Royal Northern: operating theatre suite116,400
    Rush Green, Romford: maternity unit1,012,875
    Kidderminister General: operating theatres508,000
    "Uffculme" psychiatric early treatment centre, Birmingham: child psychiatric unit130,000
    Queen Elizabeth, Birmingham: temporary radiotherapy unit114,000

    10 carried forward from previous year

    Scunthorpe: out-patient department, Phase I478,030
    Scunthorpe: nurses' accommodation193,773
    Nether Edge: boiler house and plant124,950
    Middlewood, Sheffield: nurses' accommodation108,645
    St. Margaret's, Epping: out-patient and accident centre418,180
    Rochford: new boiler plant118,650
    Cranage Hall, Holmes Chapel: developments, Phase II1,130,980
    North Staffs Hospital Centre: boiler house413,284
    Walsgrave, Coventry: new hospital, Phase II6,750,000
    North Wales, Denbigh: new kitchen118,553

    AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY (IN DAYS) OF IN-PATIENTS IN N.H.S. HOSPITALS IN ENGLAND AND WALES DURING 1964

    Non-teaching hospitals

    General medicine

    Diseases of the chest

    General surgery

    Traumatic and orthopaedic surgery

    E.N.T.

    Gynaecology

    Obstetrics

    Newcastle R.H.B.15·641·611·420·44·47·69·1
    Leeds R.H.B17·544·210·317·63·97·78·3
    Sheffield R.H.B.14·543·29·218·94·97·88·0
    East Anglian R.H.B.16·036·39·415·44·67·38·8
    North West
    Metropolitan R.H.B.19·436·511·315·85·58·49·4
    North East
    Metropolitan R.H.B.20·451·411·720·65·09·19·6
    South East
    Metropolitan R.H.B.21·349·911·924·45·79·29·3
    South West
    Metropolitan R.H.B.19·639·011·918·85·89·09·6
    Oxford R.H.B.15·242·29·515·04·17·17·7
    South Western R.H.B.15·744·210·720·05·57·68·3
    Welsh H.B17·461·511·919·85·99·38·4
    Birmingham R.H.B.16·754·210·316·45·47·87·8
    Manchester R.H.B.17·647·910·818·84·58·28·5
    Liverpool R.H.B.20·150·211·320·85·79·28·9
    Wessex R.H.B.16·740·210·417·26·17·98·4
    Total17·946·110·918·65·18·38·7

    Flanders Poppies (Sale)

    asked the Minister of Health what regulations there are affecting the sale of Flanders Poppies in hospitals and other establishments under his control, following information sent to him by the hon. Member for Newark; and what change in regulations he has made in the past year.

    My right hon. Friend has made no such regulations: this is essentially a matter for local management. I am writing to my hon. Friend about the position at Newark Hospital.

    Patients (Length Of Stay)

    asked the Minister of Health whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the average length of stay of patients treated in principal hospital departments, and of the number of patients treated per available bed in the same departments so as to show, in respect of the last year for which figures are available, the extent to which such figures vary as between the different hospital boards in England and Wales.

    For the national figures I would refer the hon. Member to Tables 57 and 58 of the Annual Report of my Department for 1964 published earlier this year. The details are given in the following tables:

    Teaching hospitals

    General medicine

    Diseases of the chest

    General surgery

    Traumatic and orthopaedic surgery

    E.N.T.

    Gynaecology

    Obstetrics

    London
    Under-Graduate19·134·212·619·07·19·410·4
    London Post-Graduate18·425·314·926·17·310·610·7
    Provincial16·430·210·714·45·98·88·7
    Total17·727·711·717·86·69·19·5

    NUMBER OF IN-PATIENTS TREATED PER AVAILABLE BED IN N.H.S. HOSPITALS IN ENGLAND AND WALES DURING 1964

    Non-teaching hospitals

    General medicine

    Diseases of the chest

    General surgery

    Traumatic and orthopaedic surgery

    E.N.T.

    Gynaecology

    Obstetrics

    Newcastle R.H.B.19·36·125·714·146·339·433·5
    Leeds R.H.B18·15·929·518·744·942·435·4
    Sheffield R.H.B.22·35·833·516·544·040·936·8
    East Anglian R.H.B.18·86·829·623·251·447·135·9
    North West
    Metropolitan R.H.B.17·67·228·424·248·837·833·4
    North East
    Metropolitan R.H.B.15·75·726·517·450·736·132·0
    South East
    Metropolitan R.H.B.15·64·926·514·038·034·533·2
    South West
    Metropolitan R.H.B.16·86·724·622·552·541·231·7
    Oxford R.H.B.20·35·931·420·763·343·543·5
    South Western R.H.B.19·45·232·015·842·941·838·8
    Welsh H.B18·44·125·615·034·733·434·2
    Birmingham R.H.B.20·64·930·818·944·941·340·1
    Manchester R.H.B.18·65·227·817·052·539·034·8
    Liverpool R.H.B.15·85·328·215·538·233·734·0
    Wessex R.H.B.20·26·631·819·446·741·637·8
    Total18·15·628·517·645·738·935·1

    Teaching hospitals

    General medicine

    Diseases of the chest

    General surgery

    Traumatic and orthopaedic surgery

    E.N.T.

    Gynaecology

    Obstetrics

    London
    Under-Graduate18·57·825·520·342·735·230·3
    London Post-Graduate15·610·022·811·738·528·530·7
    Provincial21·18·831·424·147·138·037·2
    Total19·59·328·119·743·636·033·6

    Ministry Of Health

    General Practitioners And Consultants (Salaries And Private Income)

    asked the Minister of Health if he will give the average salaries of general practitioners and consultants in 1957 and 1964; and if he will estimate the average amount received over and above their salary from private practice.

    General medical practitioners do not receive salaries, but are paid fees and allowances designed to provide those remunerated from the central pool (for Great Britain) with an average net income of predetermined amount after they have met their expenses. For 1964–65 the average net income to be earned from all official sources was £2,765. The Royal Commission on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration, after allowing for certain changes in the pool system, estimated the corresponding figure for 1955–56 at £1,975, and this was increased by about £100 from 1st May, 1957.The current salary scale for whole-time consultants in the hospital service, which was operative in 1964, is £2,910 rising to £4,445, excluding distinction awards. The scale operative at 1st May, 1957, was £2,205 rising to £3,255 in the case of consultants appointed at age 32 or over and excluding distinction awards.Information on private earnings of part-time consultants is not available, nor information about private earnings of general practitioners in 1957 and 1964, but it has been estimated that in 1962–63 general practitioners remunerated from the central pool received on average about £170 from non-official sources.

    Sight Tests (Manchester)

    asked the Minister of Health how many sight tests were carried out by ophthalmic opticians in October and November, 1965, in the Manchester Executive Council area; and what were the comparable figures in the same months of 1964.

    The Information is as follows:

    OctoberNovember
    19648,6327,212
    19658,7518,110
    (approx.)

    Attendance At Limb Fitting Centres

    asked the Minister of Health if he will seek power to ensure that when limbless persons are asked to attend limb fitting centres for reasons of adaptations they are compensated for any reasonable loss of wages arising out of such a visit.

    Limbless war pensioners attending limb fitting centres are compensated for loss of wages under powers derived from Royal Warrant. My right hon. Friend has no power to compensate National Health Service patients nor has he at present any proposals to seek such powers.

    Hearing Aids

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the high prices charged by hearing aid manufacturers which put such aids beyond the reach of poor persons; and what are his plans to make hearing aids available to poor persons under the National Health Service.

    Medresco hearing aids are already available free of charge under the National Health Service for all who need them.

    General Practitioners (Disposable Sterile Syringes)

    asked the Minister of Health when general practitioners will be supplied with disposable sterile syringes for use with National Health Service patients.

    Initial supplies of syringes have been sent to all executive councils for free distribution as soon as possible to general practitioners. Further supplies needed will be issued on orders placed by practitioners with their councils.

    Ministry Of Labour

    Railway Guards (Dispute)

    76.

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will hold an inquiry into the trade dispute between the railway guards and British Railways.

    No. The National Union of Railwaymen has approached the British Railways Board for discussions on this matter and it would not be appropriate for me to intervene.

    British Railways (Labour Relations)

    77.

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will make inquiries, with a view to introducing legislation to empower himself to deal with such matters, into labour relations on the railways and the wages structure, including bonus systems, which affects such relations.

    Redundant Miners (Retraining)

    78.

    asked the Minister of Labour whether he will take steps to adapt the shorter apprenticeship training time pioneered by a private firm in the engineering industry, details of which have been sent to him, to speed the retraining of the adult miners who will be made redundant under the new National Coal Board scheme to close 150 pits.

    No. Any retraining of redundant miners for skilled engineering occupations undertaken by this Department will be in one of the Government training centres where the normal length of course is six months.

    Engineering Industry (Length Of Training)

    79.

    asked the Minister of Labour, in view of the shortage of skilled manpower in the engineering industry and the shortage of 200,000 skilled men by 1970 forecast in the National Plan, if he will request the Engineering Industry Training Board to give urgent consideration to the possibilities of shortening apprenticeship.

    The Engineering Board is considering the nature and content of training required for occupations in its industry which is the essential preliminary to any decision as to the appropriate length of training.The Board's grant arrangements are designed to encourage firms to increase the training they do.

    Agricultural Training Board

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will consider the establishment of an industrial training board in the agricultural industry.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member for Dorking (Sir G. Sinclair) an 4th November.

    Industrial Training Boards

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will state his programme for setting up industrial training boards approved by the Central Training Council in order of implementation.

    In accordance with the recommendations of the Central Training Council I am at present engaged in discussions with employers' and workers' organisations about the establishment of training boards for sectors of the textile industry other than wool, road transport including the motor vehicle repair trade, agriculture, the hotel and catering industry, and the distributive trades.I next propose to consider setting up boards for the chemical, oil, plastics and rubber industries, the fishing industry and civil air transport.

    Strikes (Lost Working Days)

    asked the Minister of Labour what is the percentage of days lost through stoppages of work due to industrial disputes in the United Kingdom; and what information he has about how this compares with other major industrial countries.

    On the first part of the question I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Newark (Mr. Bishop) on 6th December, 1965. Percentage figures are not available for other major industrial countries, but figures are published by the International Labour Office showing the number of days lost in a number of countries through industrial disputes per thousand persons employed in the mining, manufacturing, construction and transport industries. The latest figures, covering the period 1955 to 1964, appeared in the October, 1965, issue of the Ministry of Labour Gazette.

    Engineering Apprenticeships

    asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware of the close co-operation which took place between the Amalgamated Engineering Union and a private firm, details of which have been sent to him, in respect of a shortened engineering apprenticeship scheme; and what steps are being taken to encourage the further development of such co-operation and experiment throughout industry at large.

    Yes. The Engineering Industry Training Board is aware of these arrangements which include the use of programmed instruction techniques. It plans to promote a greater use of these techniques in training for its industry.

    Economic Affairs

    Rhodesia

    80.

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what will be the effect on the British economy of the Government's policy of sanctions on trade with Rhodesia.

    I have nothing to add to the reply given on 3rd December, 1965, by my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.

    Fares, London Area

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will refer the proposed rises in fares in the London area to the National Board for Prices and Incomes

    National Finance

    Crown Estate And Her Majesty's Civil List

    83.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total net income received by the Exchequer in the 12 months to the last convenient date from the Crown Lands, the Duchy of Cornwall and other Royal Revenues; and what payments were made during the same period from the Consolidated Fund in respect of Her Majesty's Civil List, annuities to members of the Royal Family, sums paid by the Exchequer to Princess Margaret and Lord Snowdon, and retired allowances to members of the Royal Household.

    The total income received by the Exchequer from the Crown Estate and other hereditary revenues of the Crown in the financial year 1964–65 was £4,078,000. Payments from the Consolidated Fund in the same period for The Queen's Civil List (after deduction of the appropriate share of the net revenues of the Duchy of Cornwall), annuities to members of the Royal Family and Royal Household retired allowances amounted to £545,000.

    Ministry Of Defence

    Spey-Engined Mirage And F111a Aircraft

    81.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what would be the estimated extra saving in defence costs in 1969–70 if the decision were made to order a full buy of Spey-engined Mirage IVs rather than F111As to replace the cancelled TSR2s; and whether the price of the F111As has been agreed with the manufacturers and the United States Government.

    At this stage in the Defence Review I cannot say, but the hon. and gallant Member must not assume either that these two aircraft equate on a one for one basis in terms of operational performance or that costs could be calculated on such a basis. As regards the second part of the Question, my right hon. Friend the Minister of Aviation and I negotiate with the United States Government, not the manufacturers, and the cost of any purchases of F111 aircraft is a matter for agreement with the former.

    F111a And F111b Aircraft

    82.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence by what criteria he attempted to assess the likely cost of the F111A and F111B while it was still in its prototype stage, requiring major and expensive modifications in order to satisfy British service requirements.

    Bishopscourt Airfield, County Down

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are now his plans for the future of Bishopscourt Airfield in County Down.

    The airfield will be retained for defence purposes: all available land on it is let for agricultural use.

    Wireless And Television

    Reception, Berwickshire

    84.

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that television reception in parts of Berwickshire leaves much to be desired; and what steps he is taking to improve it.

    Improvements in the quality of television reception in particular localities are primarily for the broadcasting authorities. The B.B.C. and the I.T.A. have told me that reception in most of Berwickshire is satisfactory though there are pockets in the northeast of the county where it is poor. I have no doubt that in preparing their plans both authorities will remember the claims of these areas.

    Post Office

    Special Stamps

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will consider the issue of a special postage stamp during 1966 to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the signing of the Atlantic Charter.

    As promised in my reply to the hon. Member on 1st April, I did consider this suggestion before settling next year's special stamp programme but I had over 50 suggestions before me and this was one of the many that unfortunately could not be met.

    Eastern Counties And East Midlands

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the worsening service for letters and packages between the Eastern Counties and the East Midlands; and what efforts are being made to improve it.

    I have no evidence that the postal service between the Eastern Counties and the East Midlands is deteriorating, but if the hon. Member

    GREAT BRITAIN
    INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC PROJECTS WHICH RECEIVE SUPPORT FROM PUBLIC MONEYS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND SCIENCE
    OrganisationProjectYear of InitiationSupport in Financial Year 1965–66 £
    European Organisation for Nuclear Research.19542,893,000
    European Organisation for Space Research.19641,750,000
    NATO Scientific SchemesScience Fellowship Programme1959305,000
    Advanced Study Institute1959
    Research Grants Programme1960
    Operational Research Programme1963
    Post-Graduate Training Awards1959*
    International Agency for Research on Cancer.196554,000
    International Biological ProgrammePreparatory Phase196483,000
    International Hydrological Decade19651,022,000
    Whale Marking Scheme19531,000
    International Union for Pure and Applied Chemistry.Contribution over a short term to cost of setting up Thermodynamic Cables Project Venture (Imperial College).19642,400
    Abstracting Board to International Council of Scientific Units.Statistical study of three major Physics Abstracting Periodicals. (Contribution over short term).19654,700
    Total Financial Support in 1965–666,115,100
    * Information not yet available.

    Engineering Profession

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is aware of the concern shown by industrialists, trade unionists and educationists regarding the inadequate number of school-leavers and students in training or preparing for careers as engineers, compared with the numbers seeking scientific and other posts; and what

    would let me have details of any delays which have come to his notice I will gladly look into the matter.

    Education And Science

    International Scientific Projects

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list all the international scientific projects in which Great Britain is participating and which receive support from public moneys, giving the amount of financial support and the year of initiation.

    The following table gives the information, so far as it concerns the projects supported by funds for which I am responsible.action is being taken to encourage more to enter the engineering profession.

    My right hon. Friend the Minister of Technology and I are aware of the desirability of encouraging more young people to enter the engineer-ing profession. An inter-departmental Publicity Working Party on Technology and Engineering has recommended a special publicity programme which includes films for showing to schools, a number of travelling exhibitions and a publication on careers in technology. Next year the Council of Engineering Institutions will carry out with Ministry of Technology support a major survey of the distribution, deployment, remuneration and responsibilities of professional engineers, with a view to throwing light on the nature of the important work which they perform.

    College Of Education Entrants (A Levels)

    85.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of male and female entrants to colleges of education, in 1959–60 and at the latest convenient date, had one and two General Certificate of Education A level passes, respectively.

    The earliest figures are for the autumn of 1960 and are Men, 1 A level 23·5 per cent., 2 or more A levels 33·6 per cent.; Women, 1 A level 23·3 per cent., 2 or more A levels 32·4 per cent. The corresponding figures for 1964 are 23·8 per cent., 38·0 per cent., 23·4 per cent. and 35·8 per cent.

    Medical Schools (Instruction In Contraceptive Methods)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science at how many medical schools specific instruction in contraceptive methods is given to students; and in how many medical schools no such instruction is given.

    The content of university courses is not a matter for my right hon. Friend. The medical curriculum is the responsibility of each university concerned, bearing in mind the requirements of the General Medical Council in the terms of the Medical Act, 1956.

    Medical Schools (Admissions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will give the number of students admitted to medical schools in each year from 1951 to the latest available date.

    The numbers entering the first pre-clinical year in each year since 1960–61 are shown below. No comparable and reliable series of figures of entry to medical schools is available for the earlier years.

    Academic Year

    Number of Students

    1960–612,020
    1961–622,103
    1962–632,192
    1963–642,281
    1964–652,407
    1965–662,444
    (provisional)

    Certain medical schools are exclusively clinical, and the above figures do not include the entry to these Schools.

    Rhodesia

    "B" Roll Franchise

    86.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations how many non-white Rhodesians are normally resident, as opposed to migrant; how many of these non-white normal residents are over 21 years of age; and to what total Mr. Smith offered to expand the number of non-whites qualified to vote during the recent negotiations.

    The latest estimate of the population of Rhodesia is 4,020,000 Africans, 219,000 Europeans, 12,700 Coloured and 8,000 Asians. The last full census in May, 1962, showed that out of a total of 3,616,570 Africans approximately 406,050 were born outside Southern Rhodesia. It is not known exactly how many Africans are over the age of 21, but probably between 40 per cent. and 45 per cent.Mr. Smith was prepared to extend the "B" roll franchise to include approximately 1 million adult tax-paying Africans, but a commensurate increase in Parliamentary representation for the African population was not proposed.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Epping Forest

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give an assurance that he will not exercise his powers so as to derogate from the provisions of Sections 7 and 9 of the Epping Forest Act 1878 that the Forest should at all times be kept uninclosed and unbuilt on as an open space for the recreation and enjoyment of the public; and how often in the last five years his powers have been exercised without the consent of the Corporation of the City of London as Conservators of Epping Forest.

    My right hon. Friend has no present intention of exercising his powers in this way, nor am I aware that the Department has done anything during the past five years to derogate from the provisions of Sections 7 and 9 of the Epping Forest Act 1878.

    Beef Recording Association

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has for the future of the Beef Recording Association.

    The powers which under the Agriculture Bill it is proposed to confer on the Meat and Livestock Commission include functions of the kind on which the Beef Recording Association has made a start with temporary Exchequer help. We would, therefore, hope that the Commission will develop the work an a full scale and assume responsibility for these functions. It would not be right, however, for my right hon. Friend to commit either the Commission or the Association, which is of course an independent body, on the precise arrangements which might eventually be made, but he is ensuring that the Association is able to maintain its commendable progress in the meantime.

    Calf Deaths (Pneumonia And Diarrhoea)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give the numbers of calf deaths due to pneumonia, and to diarrhoea, in Nottinghamshire in recent years; what is the cost to farmers and what compensation is payable; and what action is being taken to eliminate the causes and to reduce the losses in milk and beef.

    Precise information as to the numbers of calf deaths due to pneumonia and diarrhoea in Nottinghamshire and the cost to farmers is not available. A recent survey of calf mortality from all causes showed in the East Midland region a level of wastage of 5·2 per cent. of calves born.No compensation is payable for such deaths. A concerted effort is being made by the Advisory Services to educate farmers as to the causes of calf losses and methods to be adopted to reduce them. I hope that the Veterinary Study Groups which have recently been set up will play an important part in this.

    Caribbean

    Death Sentences And Reprieves

    asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what was the number of people sentenced to death, and the number subsequently reprieved, in the past 10 years in each of the British Colonies in the Caribbean.

    I have asked the territories concerned for this information and I will circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT when I have their replies.

    Home Department

    Experiments On Animals (Littlewood Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the anticipated timetable for the implementation of the Littlewood Report with regard to laboratory animals; to what extent the advisory committee is to be reorganised and the inspectorate enlarged before amending legislation is introduced; and by what date he expects that the reorganisation and enlargement will be achieved.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 4th November to a Question by the hon. Member for Gillingham (Mr. Burden). I am paying special attention to the Little-wood Committee's recommendations for reconstituting the Advisory Committee and strengthening the Inspectorate, but I am not yet in a position to make a statement.

    Bathers (Safety)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to establish a national safety code for a beach signs warning system around the coast to reduce accidents by drowning.

    A voluntary code of this kind, prepared by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, has been widely circulated to local authorities, on whom responsibility for taking action to ensure the safety of bathers primarily rests.

    Local Government

    Increase In Rate Poundage

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government by how much it would be necessary to increase the sums provided in the General Grant (Increase) Orders now before Parliament in order to prevent any general increase in rate poundage in the financial year 1966–67.

    The position is too complex to permit of a worth while estimate. Apart from the fact that I do not know how much local authorities will budget to raise next year either collectively or individually, the answer would depend very much on how the additional grant was assumed to be distributed and on how far it was desired to go in keeping rates down. Changes in rate poundage are always far from uniform, ranging from small decreases to increases of 30 per cent. or more; it would not be possible to tailor the distribution of grant to the prospective pattern of rate increases and in any case general grant is not payable to most rating authorities.At a guess—and I can really offer little more—I would put the increase in grant needed at between roughly £100 million and £300 million, depending on the assumptions made.

    Epping Forest

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will give an assurance that he will not exercise his powers, or agree to applications for compulsory purchase orders from local authorities, the Metropolitan Water Board, and other such bodies, so as to derogate from the provisions of sections 7 and 9 of the Epping Forest Act 1878 that the forest should at all times be kept uninclosed and unbuilt on as an open space for the recreation and enjoyment of the public; and how often in the last five years his powers have been exercised without the consent of the Corporation of the City of London as conservators of Epping Forest.

    These powers have not been exercised to confirm any compulsory purchase order or to authorise development in Epping Forest during the last five years. Any application which has to be decided in future will be considered on its merits.

    Manchester Draft Water Order, 1965 (Report)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will publish the decision following the public inquiry on the Manchester Water Order.

    As yet I have nothing to add to the answer given in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris) on 29th October.

    Overseas Development

    British Virgin Islands (Report)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development when she expects to receive the report of Mr. Vernon Nye on tourist development in the British Virgin Islands; and whether the report will be published.

    I have already received copies of the most interesting and informative report which Mr. Nye has made to the Government of the British Virgin Islands. It is not my intention to publish it, but I am arranging for a copy to be placed in the Library of the House.

    Ministry Of Power

    Conventional Power Stations (Capital Expenditure)

    asked the Minister of Power if he will give the amounts requested by the Central Electricity Generating Board for capital investments on all projects connected with conventional power for the years 1961 to 1965, respectively; and what were the annual amounts granted.

    Capital expenditure on conventional power stations proposed by the Generating Board was as follows (by financial years):

    £ million
    Year1961/21962/31963/41964/51965/6
    Proposed expenditure99100130152218
    All these figures were approved except that for 1965–66. The approval given in September, 1964, for capital expenditure in 1965–66 included £213 million for conventional power stations.

    Scotland

    Rating Valuation (Central Heatings Appliances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that in smoke-control areas created under the Clean Air Act 1956 owner-occupiers of dwellinghouses who, in order to comply with the Act, have installed central heating are having the rateable value of their houses increased; and if he will seek to amend the law so that increases cannot be levied in such circumstances.

    It is a basic principle of valuation for rating that improvements of a heritable nature to property are rateable, in whatever circumstances they have been made. I regret that I should not be justified in proposing legislation to exempt central heating appliances in smoke control areas.

    Joint Council On Teachers' Salaries (Recommendations)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will now publish the recommendations of the Scottish Joint Council on Teachers' Salaries;(2) whether, in considering the recommendation of the Scottish Joint Council on Teachers' Salaries, he will give special consideration to the need for increased starting salaries and a reduction of the number of increments;(3) whether, in considering the recommendations of the Scottish Joint Council on Teachers' Salaries, he will take into account the disparity now existing between the salaries of Scottish and English college-trained woman teachers.

    I would prefer not to anticipate in any way the outcome of my consideration of the Scottish Joint Council's recommendations, which it is normal practice to make known when draft Salaries Regulations are issued. The many differences between the salaries of comparable groups of teachers in the two countries arise partly because negotiations are conducted separately, partly because the structure of salaries and of qualifications in the professions are quite different and, on this occasion, partly because Scottish teachers, having received a 10 per cent. salary increase in 1963 to last for three years compared with the 7 per cent. for two years awarded to teachers in England, are not due their next revision until April, 1966.

    Western General Hospital, Edinburgh

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultations have been held between the South Eastern Regional Hospital Board and Edinburgh Corporation about development proposals at the Western General Hospital; and what conclusion has been reached.

    The Regional Hospital Board have had informal consultations with the Corporation about the proposed laundry and boilerhouse at the Western General Hospital, but the proposals have not yet been put formally to the Corporation and no conclusion has been reached.

    Board Of Trade

    Scandinavia And Scotland

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps have been taken to promote trade between Scandinavia and Scotland, and north-east Scotland in particular; and if he will make a statement.

    The Board of Trade, in close collaboration with the Export Council for Europe, offers a wide range of services to firms who wish to develop exports to Scandinavia. I am glad to say that Scottish firms are taking increasing advantage of these. Scottish firms were well represented in the British Week held in Denmark in 1964. The Scottish Council, which played an active part in organising the Week, sent a Mission to Denmark this spring; this included firms from the North-East. In June our Commercial Counsellor from Oslo visited a number of Scottish firms, including eight in the Aberdeen district, to discuss exports to Norway; and Scottish firms will be exhibiting at the British Trade Fair in Oslo next spring.

    Transport

    Epping Forest

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will give an assurance that he will not exercise his powers so as to derogate from the provisions of Sections 7 and 9 of the Epping Forest Act 1878 that the forest should at all times be kept uninclosed and unbuilt on as an open space for the recreation and enjoyment of the public; and how often in the last five years his powers have been exercised without the consent of the Corporation of the City of London as Conservators of Epping Forest.

    I cannot give an assurance that no further Forest land will be needed for road improvements but under the Epping Forest Acts the Conservators have power to dedicate land for highway purposes and their consent is always obtained to the use of any land so required. The answer to the second part of the question is therefore "never".

    Highway Code

    asked the Minister of Transport if, in the interests of road safety, he will remove the charge for the Highway Code.

    No. Sixpence is a small price to pay for it. Over 2,000,000 copies are in fact already distributed free of charge each year—to learner drivers, to visitors from abroad and to children enrolling in the National Cycling Proficiency Scheme.

    Advisory Council On Road Research

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will state the names of the members and the terms of reference of the Advisory Council on Road Research.

    Membership of Advisory Council on Road Research

    Chairman

    Dr. F. E. Jones, M.B.E., B.Sc., Ph.D., M.I.E.E., F.R.Ae.S., Director, Mullard Ltd.

    Deputy Chairman

    Professor W. Fisher Cassie, Ph.D., F.R.S.E., M.I.C.E., M.I.Struct.E., M.Inst.H.E., A.M.T.P.I. Professor of Civil Engineering, University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

    Members

    • Mr. J. Armour, A.M.I.C.E., A.M.I.Mun.E., A.M.T.P.I. City Engineer, Glasgow.
    • Dr. J. P. Bull, M.D., Director of the Medical Research Council's Industrial Injuries and Burns Research Unit, Birmingham Accident Hospital.
    • Dr. A. R. Collins, M.B.E., D.Sc., Ph.D., M.I.C.E., M.I.Struct.E., Technical Director, Cement and Concrete Association. Director-Designate, Civil Engineering Research Association.
    • Sir Edward Dodd. H.M. Chief Inspector of Constabulary for England and Wales.
    • Professor G. C. Drew, M.A. Professor of Psychology, University College London.
    • Mr. A. C. Durie. Director-General, the Automobile Association.
    • Mr. S. H. Grylls, M.A., M.I.Mech.E., M.S.I.I., M.S.A.E. Chief Engineer, Rolls Royce, Ltd.
    • Mr. W. G. Harris, C.B., M.A., M.I.C.E., Director-General of Highways, Ministry of Transport.
    • Mr. M. Holmes, Chairman, London Transport Board.
    • Mr. O. A. Kerensky, C.B.E., M.I.C.E. M.I.Struct.E., M.Inst.W., M.Inst.H.E. Consulting Engineer, Messrs. Freeman, Fox & Partners.
    • Mr. M. Law, M.B.E., M.I.C.E., M.I.Mun.E., M.Inst. H.E. Director, Federation of Coated Macadam Industries.
    • Col. S. M. Lovell, O.B.E., E.R.D., T.D., M.I.C.E., A.M.T.P.I., A.M.I.Mun.E. County Surveyor, West Riding of York-shire.
    • Mr. D. J. Lyons, B.Sc., F.R.Ae.S., Hon.M.Inst.H.E. Director of Road Research Laboratory.
    • Mr. W. MacGregor, D.Sc., M.I.C.E., Director, George Wimpey & Co., Ltd.
    • Mr. J. S. McNeil, B.Sc., M.I.C.E., M.I.Mun.E., M.Inst.H.E. Chief Road Engineer, Scottish Development Department.
    • Mr. A. A. Shenfield, B.A., B.Sc.(Econ.), M.(Com.), Director (Economic), Confederation of British Industries.
    • Mr. E. C. Williams, M.Sc., Chief Scientific Adviser, Ministry of Transport.
    • Mr. L. Hugh Wilson, O.B.E., A.R.I.B.A., A.M.T.P.I., Technical Adviser on Urban. Development, Ministry of Housing and Local Government.

    There is one more appointment to be made.

    The Council's terms of reference are:—

  • (a) To advise the Minister of Transport and, as appropriate, the Secretaries of State for Scotland and for Wales, upon the orientation and scope of research on roads and road traffic, including the design, construction and maintenance of the road system, traffic engineering, road safety and the interaction of the technical problems with economics.
  • (b) To submit reports from time to time.
  • Roads

    Doncaster By-Pass (Emergency Telephones)

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will now have emergency roadside telephones installed on the Doncaster by-pass.

    Motorways (Emergency Telephones)

    asked the Minister of Transport how many miles of motorway have now been completed; and on how many miles emergency roadside telephones have been installed.

    Railways

    Concessionary Fares

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will give a general direction to British Railways that, following a report of a consultative committee rejecting proposals for closing railway stations, and pending his decision on the matter, they should not withdraw the concessionary fares and other privileges available at those stations.

    No. Matters affecting concessionary fares and other privileges fall within the management responsibility of the Railways Board.

    Passenger Services, Oldham

    asked the Minister of Transport whether he will accept the unanimous recommendation of the Transport Users' Consultative Committee, after a public hearing, in favour of the unrestricted continuance of Oldham railways.

    I expect to be able shortly to announce my decision on the Railways Board's proposal to close passenger services to Oldham. I would remind my hon. Friend that the function of the Transport Users Consultative Committee is not to make a recommendation but to report to me on the hardship which a closure might cause.