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Volume 725: debated on Wednesday 23 February 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 23rd February, 1966

Telephone Service

Northern Ireland (Std System)

12.

asked the Postmaster-General what is the proportion of telephone subscribers in Northern Ireland who were on the subscriber trunk dialling system in 1965; and what additional proportion he estimates will come on to this system in 1966, 1967, and 1968, respectively.

64 per cent. of the telephone subscribers in Northern Ireland had the S.T.D. facility in 1965.I estimate that the additional proportion to have S.T.D. during the next three years will he:—

Per cent.
19667
196710
19684

Old People's Dwellings (Telephone Kiosks)

24.

asked the Postmaster-General what priority he gives to the erection of public telephone kiosks close to old people's dwellings.

It is our aim to provide at least one kiosk within reasonable distance of every sizeable community.

Melbury Road, Kensington (Kiosks)

46.

asked the Postmaster-General how long the two telephone boxes in Melbury Road, Kensington, have been unserviceable; and when they will become usable again.

About three months. They will be repaired as soon as possible, but the present wave of vandalism has caused a national shortage of replacement parts.

Call Boxes (Thefts)

32.

asked the Postmaster-General whether, in view of the extent of theft from the new subscriber trunk dialling call boxes, he will give details of the steps he has taken to render the apparatus less easy to rob.

78.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give details of the steps his Department are taking in co-operation with the police to combat the increase in telephone vandalism; and if he will make a statement.

The coin boxes are being strengthened in a variety of ways and many other counter-measures are being taken to deter thieves.

Inland Telephone System (Expansion)

48.

asked the Postmaster-General what progress has been made in expanding the inland telephone system to meet the demand for service and for calls.

In the financial year just ending, the Post Office expects to have provided nearly 20 per cent. more new exchange connexions than ever before in one year, and 25 per cent. more lines in the local cable network; and to have handled 16 per cent. more trunk calls and 8 per cent. more local calls than it did last year. A greatly enlarged capital programme has been prepared to handle an even higher level of demand over the next few years.

Subscriber Trunk Dialling

49.

asked the Postmaster-General what progress has been made to date with the introduction of subscriber trunk dialling throughout the United Kingdom.

During recent years subscriber trunk dialling has been introduced at an average rate of four exchanges per week and the facility is now available to more than four million subscribers—63 per cent. of the total in the United Kingdom.

54.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will revise the scale of charges whereby a 20-second telephone call to Bristol made from a Members' desk room costs a minimum of 4s. by day though the same call can be made for 4d. if the hon. Member walks 100 yards to the subscriber trunk dialling apparatus near the cloisters.

No. This question pinpoints the economies made possible by STD as compared with the costs of the operator service. The higher charge through an operator will buy 3 minutes of time. On STD, time is bought at 2d. a unit and an equivalent 3 minutes will cost 3s.

76.

asked the Postmaster-General by how much the rental of telephones operating on subscriber trunk dialling would require to be increased if all local calls were free and the total income remained as at present.

The calculation would involve a disproportionate amount of time and expense and a simple figure would be most misleading. I will write to my hon. Friend and explain the matter more fully.

86.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now advise companies and firms outside those cities due to change to all-figure telephone numbers in 1966–69, to display bodly on their notepaper their subscriber trunk dialling code so as to save the time of customers and others doing business with them, as well as the time of Directory Inquiries.

No. At the present stage of STD development there are wide variations in the ranges of codes available at individual exchanges and the premature adoption of the hon. Member's suggestion might lead to difficulties at this stage, but I am planning to take action along these lines next year.

Brixton

72.

asked the Postmaster-General how many applicants are now waiting for service at the Brixton telephone exchange; and how many subscribers on exclusive lines will be required to share lines to clear the backlog of applicants.

On 1st February there were 650 applications on the order list for Brixton and Redpost exchanges, which serve the same locality. Work is in hand to enable these applicants to be connected. About 350 subscribers with exclusive lines will have to share, and about 300 of the new subscribers will share with each other. The equipment will then be fully loaded. An extension is being prepared, but will not be ready for about fifteen months.

Telephone Credit Cards

74.

asked the Postmaster-General in what countries of Europe British General Post Office telephone credit cards are acceptable for calls to England.

The following are the European countries concerned:

  • Austria.
  • Bulgaria.
  • Finland.
  • Greece.
  • Hungary.
  • Iceland.
  • Luxembourg.
  • Malta.
  • Netherlands.
  • Norway.
  • Poland.
  • Portugal (including Azores and Madeira).
  • U.S.S.R.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will consider extending the telephone credit card arrangements to people who are not telephone subscribers.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply today to the hon. Member for Southgate (Mr. Berry).

Telephone Instruments

asked the Postmaster-General how many different types of telephone instruments are now available to the public on request; and how many models are in the process of being developed.

Eleven, excluding intercommunication systems, and there are numerous variations for extension working, etc. In addition the Trimphone is on market trial and will be offered more generally as supplies build up.Four new instruments are currently being developed.

Post Office

Northern Ireland (Regional Stamp)

13.

asked the Postmaster-General what plans he has for the inclusion of the Northern Ireland regional 4d. postage stamp in books of postage stamps on sale in Northern Ireland.

I shall give sympathetic consideration to this and similar requests that I have received from hon. Members.

Postal Delays (Christmas And New Year)

28.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will set up an inquiry into the reasons for postal delays at Christmas and the New Year, with a view to improving the service next year.

No. As a matter of course we closely examine the Christmas and New Year mail arrangements every year to ensure that any weaknesses one year are put right the next. I am afraid some irritating delays under peak traffic conditions are unavoidable.

Special Stamps (Tay Road Bridge)

33.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will make a special issue of stamps to mark the opening of the Tay Road Bridge later this year.

I did consider this suggestion but was unfortunately unable to find room for it.

Rural Post Offices (Telegrams)

42.

asked the Postmaster-General what is his policy concerning facilities for handing in telegrams over the counters of rural post offices.

Facilities for handing in telegrams at rural post offices are provided where this is justified by the number of messages. There is usually a telephone call box near such offices from which telegrams can be dictated.

Japan (Postmaster-General's Visit)

45.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will make a statement on his recent visit to Japan.

63.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will make a statement on his recent visit to Japan.

Yes. The purpose of the visit was to study the organisation and operation of the Japanese postal, telecommunications and broadcasting services and to discuss problems of mutual concern with senior members of those services.

Within the limited duration of the visit many useful results were achieved. Not only was a very wide field of current issues discussed and invaluable information on Japanese practices obtained, but the way was paved for follow-up visits at official level to study particular aspects where we might be able to benefit from Japanese experience.

Pillar Boxes (New Design)

62.

asked the Postmaster-General what consideration has been given by his Department to the design of a new street posting box to replace existing models.

We are considering a new rectangular design which will be much easier to clear.When the design details are settled some of the new boxes will be tried out in co-operation with local authorities. We do not, of course, intend to replace all our existing pillar boxes.

Satellite Communications

65.

asked the Postmaster-General what developments in satellite communications he is planning in consultation with the European Conference on Satellite Communications.

The United Kingdom and its partner Governments in the European Conference on Satellite Communications are studying proposals for the joint development of a European communications satellite capability.

Special Stamps (National Savings Movement)

67.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will review his decision not to issue a commemorative stamp on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the National Savings Movement.

I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply on 16th February to my hon. Friend, the Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Hazell).

Mail From Rhodesia (Surcharge)

68.

asked the Post master-General why he charged 2s. 6d. for the delivery of an air mail letter from Rhodesia, which already bore a 1s. 3d. stamp, to Mrs. C. E. Welch of 30 Leckford Road, Oxford.

Our local people have no recollection of this particular letter but a likely reason for the surcharge is that the 1s. 3d. stamp was overprinted "Independence 11 November, 1965". This would indicate that it had not been issued on the authority of a lawful Minister of Posts and so, under Rhodesian law, it would not be valid for prepayment of postage.

69.

asked the Postmaster-General what method is legally open under his regulations to a British subject in Rhodesia of posting a letter to England in such a way that the recipient will not have to pay a surcharge on it.

So far the only invalid Rhodesian stamps are those bearing a reference to "independence". Other stamps are valid under Rhodesian law for prepayment of postage and are accepted in the United Kingdom without surcharge.

Stamps (High Values)

73.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will introduce stamps of higher values, such as £2, £3 and £5, for paying postage on air mail and for insured parcels.

I am reviewing the range of values of our permanent series stamps in connection with the new issue we are planning and I shall certainly bear the hon. Member's request in mind.

Post Office, Buttermere (Weighing Machine)

81.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will supply the post office in Buttermere, Cumberland, with a modern weighing machine.

No. The business at this office does not warrant the provision of a more modern automatic weighing machine.

Special Stamps (Cornwall)

84.

asked the Postmaster-General whether, in the review of regional stamps which is being undertaken by the Post Office, he will now consider issuing a special stamp for Cornwall.

No. It would be impracticable to put different designs of stamps on sale in all the different counties of the United Kingdom. However, Cornishmen and Cornish scenery may well feature in special issues.

Postal Services, Greater London Area

85.

asked the Postmaster-General what new steps he is taking to improve postal services in the Greater London area, in view of the fact that complaints about them are again increasing.

My inquiries do not indicate that complaints about postal services in the Greater London area are increasing or that the services are deteriorating. While there are still shortages of staff in some localities and sick absences have temporarily added to our difficulties the staffing position generally has continued to improve.

Departmental Staff

asked the Postmaster-General what were the numbers of persons employed on the staff of his Department on 1st October, 1964, and 1st February, 1966.

The numbers of persons employed on the staff of the Post Office on these dates were 381,767 and 396,400 respectively. These figures include about 29,000 part-time staff counted as half each but exclude nearly 23,000 sub-postmasters employed on an agency basis.

Special Stamps (World Football Cup And Anniversary Of Battle Of Hastings)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he can now release the denominations of the stamps for the Football Cup and Battle of Hastings 900th anniversary issues.

The denominations of the World Football Cup stamps will be 4d., 6d. and 1s. 3d. I am not yet in a position to give the denominations of the 900th Anniversary of the Battle of Hastings issue.

New Post Office (Dundee)

87.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give a starting date for the new Crown post office in the Lochee district of Dundee.

Planning approval has now been given to develop the tramway depôt for the new post office. Negotiations for purchase of the site are in hand, and I hope that building will start in about three years' time.

Pictorial Stamps

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now give details of the release dates and subjects of the pictorial stamps recently announced.

The first such issue will feature outstanding views of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and will be put on sale on 25th April. The denominations will be 4d., 6d., 1s. 3d and 1s. 6d. I shall announce details of other pictorial issues later.

Redesigned Stamps

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now make a further statement on when he will issue the first stamps in the redesigned permanent series; and what denominations will be involved.

Preliminary design work is in hand but it is as yet too early for me to say when the first stamps will be issued or which denominations will be involved.

Wireless And Television

Television Reception

21.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will take measures to ensure that television licence-holders continue to be able to receive broadcasts where reception is interfered with by the erection of gasometers and similar structures.

I am well aware of the inconvenience tall buildings can cause to viewers, by causing "ghosting" on their sets. But this can generally be mitigated by adjusting individual aerials, or by providing a community aerial.

Communication Satellites (Television Transmission)

66.

asked the Postmaster-General what studies he is making for the future use of communication satellites for television transmission.

The Early Bird satellite is now available for transatlantic television relays. The Interim Communications Satellite Committee, of which the United Kingdom is a member, is studying possible ways of meeting future television relay requirements.

Television Reception, Stroud (Aerial Design)

75.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give details of the type of aerial which will give satisfactory reception of Channel 5 in the Stroud area.

The design of aerials is not my right hon. Friend's responsibility. No doubt the B.B.C. will be glad to let the hon. Gentleman have the information he seeks.

Colour Television

83.

asked the Postmaster-General when he expects to have a report on the merits of the Russian system of colour television; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that the Russians are studying several variants of their system and have not yet decided which, if any, of these they would adopt. It would therefore be premature for me to ask for a report.

Television Service (Swansea)

asked the Postmaster-General what developments are planned to supplement the television service in Swansea and surrounding districts; and when these plans will reach fulfilment.

This is a matter for the B.B.C. and the I.T.A. in the first place. Both have put to my right hon. Friend proposals for building relay stations to extend the coverage and improve the reception of their V.H.F. television services; and as soon as he has examined these proposals he will make an announcement.

Pirate Radios (Advertising)

asked the Postmaster-General if he is aware that companies in which the Government has a majority shareholding are advertising their products on the illegal broadcast transmissions of Radio London and Radio Caroline; and what action he is taking to prevent this.

Yes. I am informed that the company concerned has decided to stop this advertising.

Broadcasting Policy (White Paper)

asked the Postmaster-General when he will publish the Government White Paper on Broadcasting Policy.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Chicken Broiler Houses (Rates)

88.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the increase in price of food to the public resulting from the rateable assessment of 6d. per sq. ft. on chicken broiler houses and other intensive buildings.

I understand that assessments vary but on average it is estimated that rating has increased costs by ¼d. per bird which has probably had no effect on retail prices in this competitive market. Few other livestock buildings are rated and it is unlikely that any such increase in costs has been passed on to the public.

Anglo-Irish Trade Agreement (Apples)

89.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will, before the Free Trade Agreement with Eire comes into force, negotiate an amendment of the terms relating to horticulture, so that British apple growers will not be treated regarding export conditions less favourably than they are today.

92.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that producers of English apples will be in a better position as a result of the Anglo-Irish Trade Agreement; and what steps he is taking to protect the interests of British growers.

I am satisfied that the arrangements governing the export of British apples to the Irish Republic under the new Agreement will be not less favourable to our growers than those that now apply. I have taken and shall continue to take all steps necessary to protect the interests of British growers.

95.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what restrictions on the export of United Kingdom apples into Ireland and on Irish apples into the United Kingdom resulted from the Anglo-Irish Trade Agreement; and what powers he has reserved to ensure that the United Kingdom producers will not have their share of the British home market thereby reduced.

The Agreement provides for unlimited access for apples in both directions. I am not sure what the hon. Member has in mind in the second part of his Question but I would draw his attention to the provisions for consultation in Article XXIII.

Small Farms (Amalgamations)

90.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further development in the process of amalgamating small farms has taken place since he announced his proposals to assist this process.

I have no reason to think that there has been any change in the process of amalgamating small farms since my reply to the hon. Member's last Question in similar terms on 3rd November, 1965.

Farms And Farming (Subsidies)

91.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what types and classes of farms and farming are the most heavily subsidised.

Only a broad indication can be given, and the position fluctuates from year to year. In 1964–65 subsidies as a proportion of total revenue were somewhat higher on cereal farms and on hill sheep farms than they were on mixed and general cropping farms. The rate of subsidy on pigs and eggs was also relatively high in that year. Milk, like sugar beet, attracts no direct Exchequer subsidy, the cost of the guaranteed price being met by the consumer. Dairy farms therefore tend to receive a smaller proportion of their revenue from Exchequer subsidy than other types of farms. For any given type of farm, the proportion of revenue due to subsidy does not vary significantly with the size of the farm.

Food Labelling

93.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether the proposals referred to in his Department's Press notice of 27th September last for implementing the proposals of the Food Standards Committee on Food Labelling have yet become regulations; and if he will make a statement.

The proposals issued on 27th September last were open for comment until 3rd January. A very large number of representations has been received and until these have been fully considered it is not possible to forecast a date when the regulations will be made.

94.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now introduce legislation to require tins of processed food to be date-stamped as they emerge from the factory.

This matter was considered by the Food Standards Committee in its Report on Food Labelling. It made no recommendation because it did not consider it to be a practical proposition. No provision for compulsory date stamping was included therefore in the proposals for new labelling regulations issued on 27th September last. Representations on these proposals, including some about date-stamping, are now being considered and I cannot yet say what the final decision will be.

Floods, Rochford (Drainage Scheme)

96.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in view of the extent and urgency of the works involved in the Essex River Authority's scheme for the prevention of flooding in the Rochford area, he will reconsider his decision to limit grant aid.

I am sorry that under the existing requirements for grant aid of land drainage works we are unable to improve on the offer of grant already made, which would at present amount to almost one-half the estimated cost of the

Milk And Beef Production

97.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what changes Her Majesty's Government intend to make in the expansion of milk and beef production as laid down in the National Plan.

The measures necessary to achieve the objectives for agriculture set out in the National Plan are being considered at the Annual Review. This is now in progress and I cannot anticipate its outcome.

Milk (Tests)

98.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will now introduce legislation to have milk tested for quality and purity on the farm instead of at the distributor's dairy as at present.

I can see no need for this. Contamination of milk can occur at any point in the chain of distribution and the Food and Drugs Act, 1955 (Sections 91, 95 and 96) already gives power to authorised officers of Food and Drugs Authorities and of my Department to sample milk at farm dairies for the purpose of control of milk hygiene and composition. They may also take action where it is appropriate for them to do so.

Antibiotics And Food Additives

99.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the latest official advice he has received about the danger to health from antibiotics, hormones, and other drugs and agents used in food; and if he will make a statement.

The Report of a Joint Committee of the Agricultural Research Council and the Medical Research Council, published in 1962 concluded that as the carcases of animals reared on feedingstuffs containing antibiotics contained no more than traces of these substances, there was no hazard to the consumer of such food. This subject is being kept under review. The direct use of antibiotics in food is restricted by the Preservatives in Food Regulations, 1962, in accordance with the advice my right hon. Friend's predecessor received from the Food Standards Committee. My right hon. Friend's Scientific Advisory Panel has advised him that, on present knowledge the hormone residues in the flesh of farm livestock which have been treated according to current practice present no hazard to the consumer of the flesh of such livestock. The Food Additives and Contaminants Committee advises us regularly on other additives used in food. Its latest reports on Cyclamates and Solvents were published at the beginning of this month.

Agricultural Industry (Modernisation)

100.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now announce details of the new incentives to the agricultural industry to encourage modernisation.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply made to my hon. Friend the Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Hazell) on 21st February.

Departmental' Staff

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what were the numbers of persons employed on the staff of his Department on 1st October, 1964, and 1st February, 1966.

The number of staff employed by the Department on 1st October, 1964, was 15,566 and the comparable figure for 1st February, 1966. was 15,560.

Brambell Report

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will now make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's intentions following the publication of the Brambell Report, Command Paper No. 2836, in December.

Scotland

General Practitioners (Patients)

103.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the ratio of general practitioners to patients in Scotland in each of the years 1960 to 1964, and in each quarter of 1965.

The estimated average number of patients for each principal providing unrestricted general medical services was as follows:

1st July, 19601977
1st July, 19611970
1st July, 19621979
1st July, 19631983
1st July, 19642000
1st April, 19652021
1st July, 19652039
1st October, 19652049
1st January, 19662066
(The figures are inflated by up to 3 per cent. since it is not possible to eliminate all duplicate entries from doctors' lists.)

Ballachulish (Bridge)

102.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has for the construction of a bridge across the narrows at Ballachulish; and whether he will make a statement.

None at present. I am awaiting a report on this crossing from the Highland Transport Board.

Police

104.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many men re signed from the police forces in Scotland in 1965; and how many transferred to forces in England and Wales.

254 men resigned without pension or gratuity and 40 transferred to forces in England and Wales from police forces in Scotland during 1965.

105.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proposals he has at present under consideration with regard to the amalgamation of police forces in Scotland.

Hospitals (Staffing)

106.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that the American Medical Association has lifted its ban on foreign medical students working in United States hospitals; and what estimate he has made of the effect of this action on the staffing of hospitals in Scotland.

I understand that the American Medical Association proposes to allow British students to take vacation work which will further their medical education. This decision, which would be a return to a long-standing practice, is not likely to have any significant effect on the staffing of Scottish hospitals.

Highlands And Islands Development Board (Grants And Loans)

107.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total amount paid out to date in grants and loans, respectively, for projects in the Outer Hebrides and in the Highlands and Islands as a whole, respectively, by the Highlands and Islands Development Board.

The Board has not yet made any payments by way of grant. It has so far made loans totalling £11,500 in respect of two projects neither of which is in the Outer Hebrides.

Macbrayne's (Increased Charges)

108.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the high cost of living and especially of transport in the Western Isles, he will refer MacBrayne's pro posed increased rates for goods and passengers to the National Board for Prices and Incomes for examination.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in agreeing to fare increases by MacBrayne's, what estimate he made of the effect they will have on the cost of living in the Western Highlands.

In reaching my decision I had regard among other things to the effect on the economy of the area, but no precise estimate of this can be given.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, before arriving at his decision to agree to the recent fare increases announced by MacBrayne's, he consulted the Highlands and Islands Development Board and the Highland Transport Board.

The Highland Transport Board was consulted before decisions were taken and the proposals were intimated to the Highlands and Islands Development Board before they were announced.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the fare increases by MacBrayne's, which he approved, are higher, lower or at the same level as those the company originally proposed to him.

The increased charges announced differed in a number of respects from the increases originally proposed by the company but are designed to produce the same additional revenue in a full year.

Joint Council On Teachers' Salaries

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the present composition of the Scottish Joint Council on Teachers' Salaries; and what changes there have been in recent weeks.

The Council consists of a chairman appointed by the Secretary of State and 30 other members appointed as follows:

The "Teacher Members"
  • (a) 16 teachers nominated by the Educational Institute of Scotland;
  • (b) 2 teachers nominated by the Scottish Secondary Teachers' Association;
  • The "Authority Members"
    (c) 4 persons nominated by the Scottish Counties of Cities Association; and
    (d) 8 persons nominated by the Association of County Councils in Scotland, equally in number representative of the industrial, semi-industrial, agricultural and highlands and islands areas of Scotland.
    The most recent change in membership took place on 8th December, 1965, following the death of one of the nominees of the Scottish Counties of Cities Association.

    Perth (Bypass Road)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he will approve proposals for a bypass round the west and south of Perth; when construction will begin; and if he will give an assurance that the bypass, which is not included in the road programme up to 1970, will be completed by the early 1970s, as stated in paragraph 289 of The Scottish Economy, 1965 to 1970, Command Paper No. 2864.

    The section of the bypass between the Stirling-Perth and Perth-Dundee trunk roads is included in the mileage we hope to complete by the early 1970s, but I cannot at this stage forecast the date when work on it will start.

    Housing (Improvement Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applications have been approved for the improvement or conversion of houses by local authorities in each of the years 1960 to 1965, respectively.

    The numbers of applications by local authorities approved for grant purposes were:

    1960474
    1961281
    1962427
    1963207
    1964819
    19652,504

    Welfare Services, Child Care And School Meals

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what sum will be spent on public investment in local welfare services, child care, and school canteens, respectively, in the years 1965 to 1970.

    The estimated total public investment in local welfare services, child care, and school meals in the years 1965 to 1970 is £4·0 million, £3·3 million, and £6·8 million respectively.

    Fisheries (Damage By Seals)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the most recent estimate he has made of the damage to fishing caused by seals off the east coast of Scotland, particularly off Angus and Kincardineshire.

    The annual loss to the salmon industry in the east coast of Scotland has been estimated at somewhere between £42,000 and £67,000. It is known that seals consume considerable quantities of other fish but not enough evidence has been submitted to my Department of damage to other fisheries to enable an estimate to be made and I hope that the fishermen, who have been asked to give such information to my Department, will now do so.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware of the present activity of seals off the east coast of Scotland; and what action he will take to prevent damage to fishing.

    I have seen reports of recent damage to white fish catches. In recent years an annual cull of grey seal pups has been undertaken in Orkney during the close season with a view to reducing the number of seals and the damage done to salmon and other fisheries. Meanwhile I might remind the hon. Member that in the open season from 1st January to 31st August fishermen are free to kill seals without permits.

    Ministry Of Defence

    Cyprus (Naafi Prices)

    109.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence why Navy, Army and Air Forces Institutes prices in Cyprus were increased with effect from 30th January after the Institutes' profits had risen considerably during 1965.

    The prices charged by N.A.A.F.I. are a matter for their Board of Management, subject to the general direction of policy exercised by my right hon. Friend. The prices are kept broadly in line with the general level of local retail prices.

    Fleet Air Arm (Expenditure)

    110.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the total expenditure in the 20 years 1945–65 on the Fleet Air Arm, and the amounts for aircraft carriers, aircraft, personnel and training, respectively.

    This information is not readily available and it would take a great deal of effort to produce even approximate figures.

    Royal Air Force And Fleet Air Arm (Expenditure)

    111.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the current total annual expenditure on the Royal Air Force and the Fleet Air Arm, respectively; how many airfields each service has; how many airfields are used jointly by both services; and what progres is being made in integration.

    In 1965–66, about £600 million for the Royal Air Force and about £110 million for the Fleet Air Arm. The R.A.F. has 81 major airfields and the F.A.A.8. The F.A.A. shares the use of 8 of the R.A.F. stations. Initial flying training and certain specialist air training are integrated and we are considering integration in other fields, including logistics and maintenance of common types of aircraft.

    Tankers (Interception)

    112.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what instructions have been issued to Her Majesty's ships and aircraft in the Indian Ocean which intercept tankers flying other than the British flag carrying oil to Beira and Lourenco Marques.

    Boy Soldiers (Death)

    113.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what circumstances, leading to the drowning of an army cadet, Griffith Bullton, at Windsor on 12th February, 1966, allowed cadets to be practising in the flooded river with out adequate supervision and without wearing life-jackets.

    Two boy soldiers of the Junior Leaders Regiment, Royal Engineers, died when their canoes overturned. I should like to express my deep sympathy to the boys' relatives. I would not, however, wish to say more at this stage as neither body has been recovered nor has a coroner's inquiry been held.

    Head Of Defence Sales

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the appointment of a head of defence sales will be made; whether he will appoint a person with Service experience or with industrial and commercial experience; and whether the post will be advertised inviting applications from those suitably qualified.

    With my right hon. Friend the Minister of Aviation, I am making inquiries to find a person suitable for appointment as Head of Defence Sales; we hope to make an announcement soon. It will be more important for the Head of Defence Sales to have commercial or industrial experience than Service experience.

    Defence Development Project

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what defence development projects he plans for the United Kingdom; and what employment value these will have.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the 1966 Statement on Defence Estimates, in which particulars of the defence research and development programme are given. The great bulk of the expenditure represents work to be carried out in the United Kingdom.

    Roads

    East Anglia And North-East Essex

    114.

    asked the Minister of Transport why she did not include in her recent announcement about future road building any project for East Anglia or North-East Essex.

    Because there were so many schemes elsewhere of relatively greater urgency.

    A6120 Road, Farsley

    116.

    asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for securing the safety of the children of Priesthorpe School, Farsley, Pudsey, who have to cross a dangerous stretch of the A.6120.

    This is a matter for the local education and highway authorities concerned. A speed limit and footbridge have been suggested but for the reasons which have been explained to the hon. Member my right hon. Friend does not consider that she would be justified in consenting to the former or grant-aiding the latter.

    A23 And A25 Roads, Redhill (Signposts)

    117.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the difficulties encountered by north-bound drivers on the A.23 in seeing the signpost on the junction of the A.23 and A.25 in Redhill; and what proposals she has for improving this situation.

    Yes. My right hon. Friend will provide, as soon as she can, new Worboys-type signs at this junction as part of the comprehensive improvement of the signs on the A.23.

    Humber Bridge

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated cost of the Humber Bridge; when this estimate was arrived at; when the bridge will be started and when finished; and if she will make a statement.

    The Humber Bridge Board submitted an estimate of £11½ million in April, 1964.In answer to the second part of the Question I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 9th February to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) and my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston upon Hull, West (Mr. James Johnson).

    A10 Road (Dual Carriageway)

    asked the Minister of Transport when it is now expected that road works will start for the provision of a dual carriageway for the section between Carterhatch Lane and Bulls-moor Lane on the trunk road A.10.

    Brigg Bypass

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will give higher priority to the Humberside Development, trunk road A.18, as requested by the Grimsby Rural District Council's letter to her of 11th February; and if she will make a statement.

    The letter urges the highest possible priority for the Brigg bypass. I appreciate the need, but the current five-year trunk roads programme is full with even more urgent schemes. The bypass will be carefully considered for the next extension of the programme.

    Transport

    London Bus Services

    115.

    asked the Minister of Transport what action she is taking on the proposals put to her for improving London bus services.

    I am writing to my hon. Friend about the action being taken by the authorities concerned on the proposals that have been made.

    Departmental Staff

    asked the Minister of Transport what were the numbers of persons employed on the staff of her Department on 1st October, 1964, and 1st February, 1966.

    Railways

    Superannuitants

    118.

    asked the Minister of Transport in what respects the new railway supplementation award to superannuitants is an improvement on its predecessors; and whether the award takes account of the two last Pensions (Increases) Acts or only the 1965 Act.

    The latest Railways Board scheme increases all existing supplments and makes provision for the first time for supplementation to super annuitants who retired after 30th June, 1958, and for widows, thus doubling the number of beneficiaries. It is designed to provide supplements to mitigate losses in purchasing power since the pensions were awarded, taking account of the Board's own financial position and the fact that increases have been granted to public service pensioners by successive Pensions (Increase) Acts.

    Ministry Of Aviation

    Airline Routes

    119.

    asked the Minister of Aviation what action he is taking, at the Anglo-United States air discussions due to commence in Washington on 28th February, to ensure adequate routes for airlines, both national and independent, based on the United Kingdom and the Colonies, in particular to the Caribbean and South America.

    It will be the object of Her Majesty's Government in these negotiations to seek further opportunities for British airlines, including of course those based in overseas dependent territories.

    Mirage Iv/Spey Project

    asked the Minister of Aviation whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT an account of the action taken since 13th December, 1965, further to evaluate the potential of the Mirage IV/Spey project in terms of performance, cost and availability.

    The further proposals on the Mirage IV/Spey submitted by B.A.C. during December were carefully examined and this examination confirmed my Department's earlier assessment that this proposed aircraft would be inferior in performance, later in service and at least as costly as the F111A as a replacement for the Canberra.

    Rhodesia

    Broadcasts From Francistown

    120.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations whether he will make arrangements for transcriptions of the material being broad cast to Rhodesia over the Francistown transmitter by the British Broadcasting Corporation to be placed in the Library of the House of Commons.

    It would not be very practical to ask the British Broadcasting Corporation to deposit in the Library transcripts of all the six hours of spoken word material which is broadcast daily in addition to music and entertainment. Hon. Members could however doubtless obtain transcripts of particular items which interest them direct from the British Broadcasting Corporation.

    Overseas Development

    World Food Programme

    121.

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development what steps he proposes to take to implement Resolution 309 of the Council of Europe Working Party, to ensure that the World Food Programme receives the national contributions in the form of food, money or services which are needed to achieve its aims.

    I understand that Resolution 309 has still to be considered by the Committee of Ministers' Deputies in the Council of Europe and therefore member Governments have not yet been called upon to implement the resolution. However, as this House has already been told, Her Majesty's Government have pledged a contribution of $6·2 million to the second 3-year period of the World Food Programme. Half will be in commodities and half in cash.

    Education And Science

    Schools Mathematics Project

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of children of secondary school age is taking the school mathematics projects.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to children involved in any of the mathematics teaching experiments now in progress.There are a number of such projects, and detailed statistics of the children involved are not available.

    Agriculture And Forestry (African Students)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many students from African countries completed either degree courses in agriculture or courses towards a national diploma in agriculture at British universities or colleges in each of the last five years.

    This information is, I regret, not available. The numbers of students from African countries who were enrolled for full-time study in agriculture and forestry at universities and university colleges in the United Kingdom at the beginning of each of the last four academic years are as follows:

    First degreePostgraduate
    1961–6211541
    1962–6312669
    1963–6410777
    1964–659181
    These figures include students in all years of course.In addition, a small number of African students (24 in 1964–65) are studying for the national diploma in agriculture at agricultural colleges and other further education establishments. This does not include those who study for other national diplomas in agricultural subjects, namely dairying, horticulture, poultry-keeping agricultural engineering, forestry and beekeeping.

    School Mathematics Project

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list the courses which are available to qualify teachers to apply the school mathematics project.

    Four conferences have been planned to take place this year for teachers concerned in the school mathematics project: three this Easter, at Exeter, Canterbury and in Northumberland on G.C.E. "O" level mathematics; and a further conference at Southampton in July on "A" level mathematics. Attention is paid to the work of this and similar projects in mathematics in the one-term and short courses for mathematics teachers which are sponsored by the Department.

    Computers (Working Group)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will give details of the group he has set up to deal exclusively with computer education.

    The Working Group consists of representatives from my Department, the Ministry of Labour, the Ministry of Technology, the Scottish Education Department, the Science Research Council and the University Grants Committee. Their terms of reference are to consider what steps can be usefully take in the educational system to improve the supply of trained personnel working with computers, in the light of expected demand for such personnel.

    Law

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the increase in the number of university law faculties and in the number of students graduating at such university law faculties as a result of decisions taken during the last 10 years about the scale and pattern of universities, university expansion and university building programmes.

    In 1954–55 there were 18 universities in Great Britain offering degrees in law and in 1964–65 there were 20. During the same period the number of students graduating with honours degrees in law rose from 761 to 1,081. This includes both universities with separate faculties of law or jurisprudence and those which offer degrees in law in the faculties of Arts or Social Studies.

    New Medical School (Wales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received about the establishment of a second medical college in Wales; and whether there have been any representations against such a college being established in Swansea.

    My attention has been drawn by my hon. Friend and others to the desirability of establishing a new medical school in Wales, and a group of hon. Members representing constituencies in the Swansea area urged me last March to consider the possibility of setting up such a school at Swansea. I have not received any representations against such a proposal, which would be for the University Grants Committee to consider in the first instance.

    National Finance

    National Debt

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state the amount of the National Debt in October, 1956, and October, 1964, respectively; and the sums owing to foreign countries, respectively, on the same dates.

    Figures for October are not available. The figures for 31st March are published in the Finance Accounts each year. They are as follows:

    £ million
    19561964
    National Debt27,039·930,226·3
    Debt to foreign countries, etc.*2,249·42,088·5
    * This includes debt to international organisations, and to governments and other bodies in foreign countries. It excludes debt to Commonwealth countries.

    Rhodesia (Federal Civil Servants' Pensions)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why, in view of his undertaking, pensions of former federal civil servants living in Rhodesia are still being blocked.

    No pensions are being blocked by the United Kingdom Exchange Control.

    Ministry Of Health

    Cervical Cancer (Screening Services)

    asked the Minister of Health (1) what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Hindhead district;(2) what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Cranleigh, Surrey, district.

    A screening service is now available through family doctors for some women in the Guildford area which includes the Hindhead and Cranleigh districts, and the opening of a local authority clinic later this year should enable the service to be extended.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Deal district.

    The regional hospital board and the local authority hope that a screening service will be in operation by the autumn.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Oxford district.

    Facilities for screening are available in the Oxford district. Over 1,000 women a month are being examined, mainly at hospital clinics but a service is also being provided through general practitioners, local authority clinics and the Family Planning Association.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Richmond and Twickenham district.

    The local authority clinic in Richmond provides a screening service for women in this area.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Bournemouth district.

    A start has been made. I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given on 14th February by my hon. Friend to the hon. Member for Bournemouth West (Sir J. Eden).

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Gloucester district.

    A service is available in the Gloucester district for gynaecological and obstetric patients. It is hoped to start routine screening for women without symptoms at local authority clinics later this year.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Portsmouth district.

    At present a diagnostic service only is provided, but a screening service will be started later this year when trained staff and additional laboratory space become available.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Amersham district.

    Facilities for routine screening are available in the Amersham area through general practitioners.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Dunstable district.

    Diagnostic facilities for women with symptoms are available, and some smears sent by general practitioners and local health authority clinics are being examined. It is hoped to provide a partial screening service for women without symptoms by the end of this year.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Bury St. Edmunds district.

    A diagnostic service for women with symptoms is available in the Bury St. Edmunds Hospital. A partial screening service is expected to be provided later this year.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Croydon district.

    The regional hospital board are considering what further laboratory accommodation and staff are required at Mayday Hospital to meet the needs of the local authority clinic which should be open later this year. A diagnostic service is already available for women with symptoms.

    asked the Minister, of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Burton-upon-Trent area.

    Diagnostic services are provided at present at Burton-on-Trent General Hospital; it is intended, with extra laboratory space becoming available, to start a screening service later this year and to develop this into a full service next year.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in Bristol.

    asked the Minister of Health what facilities are now available in the Bristol and Bath area for the cervical smear test; what categories of women can now have the test; and when he expects a full service to be available in this area.

    The Bath area has facilities for routine screening for cervical cancer. Patients attending gynaecological and obstetric out-patient departments are tested and many smears are also taken at Family Planning clinics and by general practitioners.In Bristol a similar service is available to hospital patients and those attending Family Planning clinics. Screening arrangements for other women are less advanced but laboratory facilities at Southmead Hospital are being expanded and smears are now taken at a local authority health centre. This will open the way to a full-scale screening service later in the year.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Surbiton area.

    The regional hospital board is considering what further laboratory accommodation and staff are required at Kingston Hospital to meet the needs of the local authority clinic which is now being planned. A diagnostic service is already available for women with symptoms.

    asked the Minister of Health what cervical cancer screening service is available to women at risk in the Great Yarmouth area.

    A diagnostic service is available at the Norfolk and Norwich Hospital for women attending the gynaecological, ante-natal and post-natal clinics and a limited screening service based in local family planning clinics has started. It is hoped to extend the service to women examined at local health authority clinics and by general practitioners later this year.

    Private Maternity Homes (Contractual Arrangements)

    asked the Minister of Health on how many occasions since the introduction of the National Health Service, regional hospital boards have entered into contractual arrangements with private maternity homes for the provision of maternity beds for National Health Service patients; how many have been entered into since October, 1964; what was the price per bed paid from public funds under such arrangements; to what extent it is his present policy to countenance such arrangements in appropriate circumstances; and whether there is now an absolute ban on such arrangements irrespective of circumstances.

    Twenty-nine; none; on average £25 per week; there are 14 such arrangements currently in force, and the last part of the Question does not therefore arise.

    Live Birth Rate (West Riding)

    asked the Minister of Health what was the live birth rate, per 1,000 estimated population, for the West Riding of Yorkshire for the year 1964; and how this compares with the national average.

    The following is the Answer.

    (i) Live birth rates per 1,000 estimated home population, 1964.
    England and Wales18·5
    West Riding of Yorkshire Administrative County18·6
    County Borough (including York)18·4
    Total18·5
    (ii)Ratios of local rates to national rate (=1·00), after adjustment for difference in the sex and age structure of the populations.
    West Riding of Yorkshire
    Administrative County1·02
    County Boroughs (including York1·01
    Total1·01

    Cigarettes And Lung Cancer (Publicity Campaign)

    asked the Minister of Health if he will give details of the current official publicity campaigns designed to warn the public, particularly young people, against the dangers of cigarette smoking; what media are used; and what is the annual cost of these campaigns to the nearest convenient date.

    Posters in schools, hospitals, local authority premises and other free sites and from time to time on hoardings and public transport and in post offices; television shorts; press advertisements in magazines for children and young people; films and talks in schools and to other audiences; pamphlets and other material distributed by local authorities.The cost to my Department will be about £120,000 in the present financial year. This takes no account of expenditure by local authorities. A great deal of the publicity is free.

    Cigarette Advertising

    asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the promotion of cigarette brands offering the inducement of gift coupons; and, in view of the fact that the value of gifts being offered to the public is estimated to amount to some £15 million per annum, whether he will ensure that this form of sales promotion is taken into consideration in his review, together with other forms of cigarette advertising.

    Local Government

    King's Lynn Review Town Map

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when the decision on the King's Lynn Review Town Map may be expected.

    I am now ready to approve the local planning authority's proposals, subject to modifications, and am writing to the county council today.

    Ministry Of Labour

    Alien Workers (Permits)

    asked the Minister of Labour whether he will arrange that permits for the employment of alien workers are issued only where there is an offer of employment for which British, Commonwealth, and Irish labour is not available.

    Permits for alien workers are at present issued only where there is an offer of employment for which no suitable British, Commonwealth, Irish or long-resident foreign labour is available in this country.

    Unemployed Persons, Perth

    asked the Minister of Labour how many people are unemployed in Perth; and what are their skills, ages and sex.

    At 10th January, 1966, 555 males and 97 females were registered as unemployed at the Perth Employment Exchange and Youth Employment Office. The available information about the skills and ages of the unemployed is given in the following tables:

    ANALYSIS BY OCCUPATION OF WHOLLY UNEMPLOYED ADULTS REGISTERED AT PERTH EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGE AT 6TH DECEMBER, 1965*
    Men
    Farmworkers, fishermen, etc.19
    Engineering and allied trades workers6
    Painters and decorators12
    Transport and communication workers19
    Warehousemen, packers, etc.14
    Clerical workers41
    Administrative, professional, technical workers12
    Allother occupations36
    Labourers284
    Total443
    Women
    Textile workers2
    Clerical workers14
    Shop assistants10
    Service, sport and recreation workers21
    All other occupations13
    Total60
    * Latest available. Occupational analyses of the unemployed are made only at quarterly intervals.
    AGE ANALYSIS OF WHOLLY UNEMPLOYED PERSONS ON THE REGISTERS OF THE PERTH EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGE AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICE AT 10TH JANUARY, 1966
    AgedMalesFemales
    Under 20 years6650
    20 years and under 40 years18919
    40 years and over27826
    Total53395

    Land And Natural Resources

    Large-Scale Ordnance Maps

    asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources if he proposes to accelerate the revision by the Ordnance Survey of large scale maps of the United Kingdom.

    For many years now there has been a serious lack of up-to-date large-scale Ordnance maps and plans (25ins. and 50 ins. to one mile) for most parts of Great Britain. These maps are essential tools for the work of planning development which is being undertaken on an ever-increasing scale by Government Departments, local authorities, nationalised industries and private developers alike, and much of this development is being seriously handicapped by the fact that many of the large-scale Ordnance maps and plans are 40, and often even 60, years out of date.The need to bring these maps up to date is now urgent if future development is not to be impeded. I am therefore proposing to increase the staff of the Ordnance Survey by about 20 per cent. over the next 10 years or so to enable the Department to complete the re-survey of the whole country by about 1980. Without this addition to the Survey's strength, there is no hope of getting the re-survey work completed within this century.Given the extra staff, it is hoped to complete the large-scale survey of the major built-up areas by about 1967–68, of the smaller towns by about 1970 and of the remainder of the country where there is less development by about 1980. Most, if not all of the re-survey work will be completed in the next ten years and from then on, over the following ten years, the staff of the Department will be gradually allowed to run down to about its present level.This expansion naturally means a substantial increase in the operating costs of the Ordnance Survey. The additional cost is estimated at about £10 million at current salary levels over the next 20 years. Large-scale Ordnance maps and plans are at present supplied at a very low price in relation to the costs entailed in preparing them, while the increased costs involved in the expansion scheme are far in excess of what can be absorbed by greater efficiency through improved techniques or general economies. Thus substantial increases in present prices for large-scale maps and plans and related services cannot be avoided. The new prices will be brought into effect in the near future. These increases will not affect the price of the Ordnance Survey's small-scale maps produced for the general public.

    Technology

    National Computing Centre

    asked the Minister of Technology if he will give an estimate of expenditure on the National Computing Centre for 1965–66, 1966–67, and 1967–68, showing separately capital and current expenditure.

    There will be no substantial expenditure on the National Computing Centre in 1965–66.The Civil Estimates for 1966–67 make provision for a grant in aid to the centre of £290,000, more than half of which is required towards the cost of the building for the centre.The scale of grant required in later years will depend upon the rate of growth of the centre's activities.

    asked the Minister of Technology whether he will list the staff already engaged for the National Computing Centre, giving the salaries they are being paid and their previous experience in each case.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. Friend to the hon. Member for Oswestry (Mr. Biffen) on 11th February. Particulars of the qualifications of the director-designate were given in the statement to the House on 7th December. His salary as director of the centre has not yet been determined.

    asked the Minister of Technology whether all the functions of the National Computer Programme Centre will be carried out by the National Computing Centre.

    Yes. The National Computing Centre was so called because it will carry out a wider range of functions than those at first proposed under the name of the National Computer Programme Centre.

    Prototype Fast Reactor

    asked the Minister of Technology when planning of the prototype fast reactor and its fuel production plant will be sufficiently advanced to enable him to give detailed information on yearly capital expenditure and the yearly number of people to be employed.

    It will be some time yet before a firm programme is established and further information can be given about the resources employed.

    Windscale And Chapelcross

    asked the Minister of Technology if he will list the additional research facilities which would have been required at Windscale and Chapelcross to support the prototype reactor if it had been built at either Windscale or Chapelcross.

    Chapelcross would have required post-irradiation examination facilities, additions to analytical laboratories, and further health and safety facilities. Moreover, there would also have been a need for additional water cooling works. Windscale is to have the fast reactor fuel production plant; to put the reactor there as well would have overcrowded a site which is already very intensively developed.

    Board Of Trade

    Flag Discrimination

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he is taking to implement Recommendation 451 of the Council of Europe Working Party; and what consultation he is having in the Maritime Transport Committee of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development with a view to more effectively resisting flag discrimination, irrespective of where it is practised.

    This Recommendation is due to be considered by the Committee of Ministers' Deputies in the Council of Europe. Consultation in the Maritime Transport Committee of O.E.C.D. about resistance to flag discrimination has been and continues to be close.

    Efta And Eec (Co-Operation)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he proposes to take to implement Recommendation 425 of the Council of Europe Working Party, with reference to paragraph 8, which recommends Governments of member States of the Council of Europe which belong to the European Economic Community and the European Free Trade Association, respectively, to do all in their power to promote co-operation between the two bodies and to prevent divergences of policy between them.

    In the communiqué issued after the Copenhagen Meeting of the E.F.T.A. Ministerial Council, E.F.T.A. Governments declared their readiness to enter into a dialogue with the E.E.C. for the purposes referred to by the hon. Member and this remains their position.

    Home Department

    Jersey (Administration Of Justice Act, 1956)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will state the progress which has been made during the past 10 years in applying, by Order in Council, Part I of the Administration of Justice Act, 1956, to Jersey.

    I consider, as my predecessors have done, that it is for the Jersey authorities, if they so wish, to take the initiative in this matter.