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Volume 725: debated on Thursday 10 March 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 10th March, 1966

Home Department

Abortion Law Reform Association (Survey)

1.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what reply he proposes to send to the survey carried out by the Birmingham branch of the Abortion Law Reform Association on so-called abortifacient drugs, a copy of which has been sent to him.

My right hon. Friend has informed the Abortion Law Reform Association that he will take account of the recommendations made by its Birmingham group when the results of certain other investigations are available.

Police (West Midlands)

2.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police officers in the area of the five new county boroughs in the West Midlands have opted for transfer to the county force rather than to stay in their present divisions as members of the new West Midlands force.

Options have not yet been finally exercised, but it is thought that probably 160 members of the Staffordshire Constabulary and 11 members of the Worcestershire Constabulary will decide to stay in their present forces.

Electric Blankets

3.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that danger is caused by some 100,000 blankets being sold a year which do not conform to the current British Standard; and what progress he has made in the review he is making of this matter.

While compliance with the British Standard is desirable in the case of all brands of electric blankets, my right hon. Friend has no evidence that those which do not carry the "kite-mark" of the British Standards Institution are unsafe. He is not yet satisfied that there is a need for regulations, but if any particular brand of blanket is shown to be unsafe my Department will not hesitate to take the matter up with the manufacturers.

Immigration Control (Rhodesian Citizens)

4.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what immigration control policy is applied to visitors from Rhodesia.

A Rhodesian citizen, like any other Commonwealth citizen subject to the immigration control, is admitted as a visitor if the immigration officer is satisfied that he is in a position to support himself and his dependants for the period of his visit without taking employment.

Kew (Flood Warnings)

5.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why the flood warning system for warning residents who live near the River Thames of flood peril failed to operate satisfactorily in Kew on 10th December, 1965; and what steps he is taking to ensure that residents are warned in good time in future.

The issue of flood warnings by the Metropolitan police is based on advice received from the Greater London Council and information from the Storm Tide Warning Service and the Thames Conservancy. The rate of flow of the river at Kew rose exceptionally quickly on 10th December last, and this, I regret to say, led to the flood warning there being later than usual. The arrangements have been reviewed and in future there should be an improvement of 30 minutes in the speed with which warnings will be broadcast at Kew and Richmond.

Prison Medical Service

6.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will investigate the adequacy of medical arrangements in Her Majesty's Prisons.

The organisation and functions of the Prison Medical Service were the subject of a report published in 1964; and since then a systematic review has been undertaken of its staffing and other requirements. My right hon. Friend does not consider that a further enquiry is necessary.

Commercial Security Companies (Employees)

7.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in order to assist the fight against crime, he will take steps to permit commercial security companies to check the back grounds of potential employees with the police.

I have no power to require chief officers of police to disclose information from police records, but I am considering this question in consultation with chief officers.

Traffic Wardens

8.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to arrange that traffic wardens should assist the Metropolitan Police in the control of traffic and traffic offences during and after parking-meters hours, thereby enabling the police to give more time to their other responsibilities.

The wardens at present available in the Metropolitan Police District are fully occupied in carrying out their primary responsibilities in relation to parked vehicles. As more wardens are recruited their functions could be extended, under existing legislation, and the Commissioner of Police is keeping the matter under review in the light of the manpower situation.

Open Prison (Nether Alderley Site)

9.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made in selecting an alternative site to that of Nether Alderley for the open prison.

Nether Alderley and other sites are being considered but it is not yet possible to take any decision.

Automatic Alarms (Metropolitan Police Districts)

10.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many burglar alarm calls were received by the Metropolitan Police for the latest available year; and what percentage of these calls was not the result of an attempt to break into the premises.

46,458 calls were received in 1965 from automatic alarms installed in the Metropolitan Police District, 97·8 per cent. of these calls were not the result of an attempt to enter.

National Police Force

11.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, as a result of development since the Report of the Royal Commission, he has given further consideration to the establishment of a Queen's Constabulary; and whether he will now embark upon this course.

If the hon. Member has in mind the establishment of a national police force, I would refer him to my reply to a Question asked by the hon. Member for Chelmsford (Mr. St. John-Stevas) on 3rd March.

Firearms (Mail Order Firms)

12.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that mail order firms are indiscriminately distributing order forms for guns, details of which have been sent to him by the hon. Member for Bromley; and if he will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to forbid this practice.

The question of the restrictions to be placed on the sale of firearms was fully discussed when the Firearms Act, 1965, was before the House. My right hon. Friend has no authority to prevent mail order or other firms advertising the lawful sale of firearms by distributing order forms, and while the operation of the existing law is kept under continuous review, he has no present proposals for introducing further legislation to prohibit this practice.

Aliens (Deportation)

14.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the normal procedure for informing aliens threatened with deportation of the result of their appeals to the chief metropolitan magistrate; and what period of notice is given to them to allow them to put their affairs in order.

The procedure, including the period of notice, has varied with the circumstances of the particular case. In future, an alien who has made representations to the Chief Magistrate against a proposal to deport him will ordinarily be allowed a reasonable time in which to settle his affairs after he has been informed of the outcome of his appeal.

Deportation Order (Mr Moghaddam)

13.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will explain the circumstances in which a Persian national, Mr. Moghaddam, married to a British citizen, was arrested on his warrant on 7th February, 1966, and deported the following day without prior notice being given of the failure of his appeal to either Mr. Moghaddam or his solicitor.

The deportation order in this case was made with the concurrence of the Chief Metropolitan Magis-strate. Mr. Moghaddam was taken into custody on 7th February, and left the country on 9th February after I had reconsidered his deportation at the urgent request of my hon. Friend.

Maintenance Proceedings (Deserted Families)

15.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps are taken to trace husbands who have deserted their families.

For the purpose of maintenance proceedings Government Departments disclose addresses from social security records to court authorities on request. I have sent my hon. Friend particulars of the arrangements that have been made for this purpose. If a husband is a defendant to proceedings and a warrant is issued for his arrest, responsibility for executing the warrant rests with the police.

Prison Visitors

16 and 17.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he is satisfied with the rôle prison visitors are playing at the present time; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he is satisfied with the method of recruitment of prison visitors; and if he will make a statement.

The National Association of Prison Visitors has recently made some suggestions about the rôle of prison visitors and the method of recruitment. These my right hon. Friend is considering.

Prisons (Escapes)

18.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the number of offences and the average sentence imposed for escapes and attempted escapes from prisons for the latest convenient year.

During 1964 there were 77 escapes from closed prisons, 313 from open prisons and 114 from outside working parties etc. I regret that figures for attempts are not available. Appendix No. 8 to the Report on the Work of the Prison Department (Cmnd. 2708) gives an analysis of offences and punishments in prisons but no analysis is made of punishments imposed for particular offences.

Easter

19.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is aware of the recommendation of the Church Assembly in favour of a fixed Easter; and if he will now act upon it.

My right hon. Friend is aware that the Church Assembly has informed the World Council of Churches that it is in favour of a fixed Easter. It is desirable that there should be general agreement among the Christian Churches as to the date to be observed, and the World Council of Churches has been inquiring into the possibility of reaching such agreement. My right hon. Friend awaits the results of these inquiries.

Court Orders (Payment)

20.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will seek to make arrangements where by the payment of maintenance allowances and other court orders may be made through post offices, thereby assisting those who have to travel in country districts.

Payment of maintenance ordered by magistrates' courts may already be made to the beneficiary by post. My right hon. Friend will be glad to consider any fresh proposals which my hon. Friend may have in mind.

Food Shops (Off Licences)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to enable any person of good character with suitable premises to obtain a licence for the sale of intoxicating liquor when the liquor sales are predominantly in con junction with the sale of foodstuffs and the liquors consist mainly of imported wines not readily available elsewhere in the same licensing district.

At present applications can be made for off licences in respect of food shops. My right hon. Friend is not convinced that it would be right to remove the discretion of the licensing authority to grant or refuse such licences in the case of a particular class of applicant.

Complaints Against The Police (Investigation)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why, in view of the fact that the honourable Member for West Ham, North, made a complaint to him concerning an alleged irregularity upon the part of certain policemen at Leyton Police Station, affecting one of his constituents, and when he promised an independent examination, the officer appointed for this investigation was himself from Leyton Police Station, where the com plaint originated; and whether he will make a statement.

This matter was dealt with under the statutory procedure which governs the investigation of complaints against the police, and in the correspondence with my hon. Friend no undertaking was given that an independent inquiry would be held. A full account of the results of the thorough investigation carried out has been sent to my hon. Friend.

23.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to ensure that when Members of Parliament are promised in dependent inquiries into allegations of malpractices upon the part of the police, such investigations are not conducted by police officers from the same police station from which the complaint originated.

I already have powers to direct, where necessary, that the investigation should be made in a particular case by an officer of another force. Normally, however, when a chief officer of police receives a complaint against an officer of his force, it is for him to decide, having regard to the nature of the complaint, whether to appoint an officer from another force, or another division, to investigate, or whether the complaint can appropriately be dealt with by an officer in the same division.

Fireworks

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the total numbers of people treated by hospitals, the numbers of those detained in hospitals, and the numbers killed, as a result of fireworks during the 1965 season, both for the country as a whole and for Sussex separately.

The particulars for the period 17th October to 13th November, 1965, are as follows:

England and WalesSussex
Total number of persons treated by hospitals2,33953
Detained in hospitals2137
Deaths00

Dartmoor (C H Williams)

24.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how soon he expects to be able to complete his reconsideration of the case of C. H. Williams, 434, Dartmoor, in the light of the second memorandum on this case submitted to him by Mr. John Foot; and if, in this connection, he will bear in mind the recommendation in paragraph 145 of the Donovan Report.

I have given further careful consideration to this case in the light of this memorandum and of further inquiries which I have made, but as I have explained to my hon. Friend I have been unable to find any ground on which I should be justified in referring it to the Court of Criminal Appeal or in taking any other action.

Prisoners (Previous Occupations)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to compile statistics showing the previous occupations, by major industrial category, of the population of prisons.

Persons received into prison have commonly had frequent changes of occupation. I am not therefore at present satisfied that the compilation of statistics of this kind would be worth while.

Prison Officers (Outstanding Conduct)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what additional recognition he proposes for prison officers who are injured or who show courage beyond the call of duty in the execution of their task.

There are already a number of ways in which outstanding conduct by prison officers can be recognised. If the hon. Member has a particular further proposal in mind I shall be glad to consider it.

Commonwealth Citizens (Seasonal Employment Or Training)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what arrangements are being made, in pursuance of paragraphs 17 and 18 of the White Paper, Immigration from the Commonwealth, for the admission outside the voucher scheme of Commonwealth citizens coming for seasonal employment or for training.

An employer in this country who wishes to provide a course of training on the job for a limited period to a Commonwealth citizen from overseas, or who wishes to engage a Commonwealth citizen from overseas for a limited period of seasonal employment, should apply to the local office of the Ministry of Labour. If the Ministry approves the application, entry certificates will be granted to the Commonwealth citizens concerned authorising their admission without vouchers.Approval of an offer of training will depend on the employer's ability to provide training which is not readily available in the trainee's own country; on proof of the trainee's suitability for the training; and on the fulfilment of certain other conditions designed to secure the trainee's eventual return to his own country.Approval of applications for seasonal workers will depend on their being no suitable labour available in this country; on the terms and conditions of the employment being satisfactory; and on the fulfilment of other conditions designed to prevent abuses of the scheme.

Board Of Trade

Investment Allowances (Leased Machinery)

25.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will now announce details of the plan for investment allowances in respect of leased machinery; and what arrangements will be made to consult the firms principally concerned with such leasing, including Leicester firms.

It is intended to provide that investment grants shall be paid in respect of eligible items of plant or machinery which are leased, when new, for use in a qualifying process of manufacturing or extraction for a minimum period of three years. Grants will be paid to the lessor, who will be under an obligation to notify the Board of Trade if the equipment in question ceases to be used for the purpose, or in the place, in respect of which the grant was given. The lessor will be liable to repay the grant in such circumstances. If an eligible item of plant or machinery which qualifies for a grant on this basis is leased for use in a Development Area, it will be eligible for a grant of 40 per cent. In other cases, the grant will be 20 per cent. Grants will not be paid in respect of plant or machinery leased to persons or institutions who would not themselves be eligible to receive grants, such as local authorities or Government undertakings, or for assets for use outside Great Britain.The possibility of extending the scheme to cover some classes of plant or machinery when leased for shorter periods than three years is still being considered. It is, however, clear that there would have to be adequate safeguards against diversion to use for non-qualifying purposes. A further announcement will be made.

These proposals have been discussed with representatives of industry, including manufacturers of boot and shoe machinery in Leicester, and they are believed to be generally acceptable to industry. Special arrangements will have to be made to deal with ships, hovercraft and computers, and these will be announced as soon as possible.

Berlin Exhibition

26.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what measure of success was achieved by the experiment of a British exhibit at the Berlin Exhibition, Grüne Woche.

It is too early yet to assess the long-term results of the first British participation in this event. I understand, however, that the Food Manufacturers' Federation, the Brewers' Society and the National Farmers Union who sponsored the British participation all consider the experiment, which resulted in retail sales to the value of £21,000, to have been extremely successful.

Wool Textile Industry And Cotton Board

asked the President of the Board of Trade what considerations led him to invite the wool textile industry to form a joint organisation with the Cotton Board; what structure and powers he envisages for the new organisation; and what progress has been made to date.

I have not issued any such invitation to the wool textile industry. The industry was, however, invited by a working group engaged in a review of the scope and functions of the Cotton Board to participate in its deliberations. The wool textile industry declined this invitation.

Butter (Import Quota System)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will make a statement about the import arrangements for butter for the year beginning 1st April, 1966.

The Government have decided to continue the quota system for imports of butter for a further twelve months, beginning 1st April, 1966. Stocks of butter in this country and in Europe are considerably higher than a year ago; and, given normal weather, butter supplies are expected to be plentiful.The total of imports to be authorised initially will be 435,500 tons. Basic quotas will be 421,230 tons in total. In the light of their supply prospects, the basic quotas of Kenya and South Africa have been suspended and that of Argentina has been reduced to 6,000 tons without prejudice to their position in future years. In the context of the Anglo-Irish Free Trade Area Agreement, the basic quota of the Irish Republic has been increased from 12,905 tons to 23,000 tons. Otherwise basic quotas are the same as in the year beginning 1st April, 1965, 5,500 tons in addition to basic quotas and 8,770 tons to offset the reductions and suspensions of basic quotas of certain countries are being authorised for delivery in the period April-November from countries with basic quotas who have estimated that they may have such additional butter.The butter situation will be reviewed in the summer with the New Zealand and Australian Governments to enable the United Kingdom Government to determine whether to provide for the import of up to 5,000 tons more. New Zealand and Australia, whose heaviest shipments arrive in the period December-March, would be given first opportunity to fill any allocations then issued in accordance with their entitlement to proportionate shares of total permitted imports.The intention of these arrangements is to achieve a level of supplies sufficient to maintain a stable and reasonable level of prices.

Insurance Companies (Green Cards)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will ask the Monopolies Commission to investigate the situation in which a fixed charge of £2 for a green card is levied by virtually all insurance companies.

Yes. I propose to refer the supply of this service to the Monopolies Commission for investigation and report.

Education And Science

Married Teachers, Birmingham (Nursery Classes)

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he is taking to encourage married teachers with young children to return to teaching, by provision of nursery schools, in the city of Birmingham.

My right hon. Friend has recently approved a proposal by the Birmingham Local Education Authority to establish three additional nursery classes in areas where they may be expected to encourage married teachers with young children to return to teaching.

State Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science approximately how many children, at the latest convenient date, were enjoying State education in England and Wales without their parents making any direct contribution to the cost.

In January, 1965, 7,092,155 children were in schools maintained by local education authorities in England and Wales; no tuition fees are charged by these schools. In the same month, the authorities also paid the whole of the fees for 93,855 children in direct grant and independent schools.

Higher National Certificates And Diplomas

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what Relationship exists between the qualifications required for associate membership of technical institutes and the curricula of the Higher National Certificate and technical diploma courses; and if he will take steps to eliminate any distortion in such curricula that might arise from the requirements of the institutes.

Higher National Certificates and Diplomas are primarily qualifications in their own right for the senior technician in industry and commerce, and courses are devised with this end in view.Certain professional institutions still grant a measure of exemption from their own requirements to holders of these qualifications, although with the general tendency of the institutions, to raise standards, both qualifications are likely in the future to afford less exemption.However, the granting of exemptions by institutions is not the object at which these awards are aimed, and I would not accept that courses approved by Joint Committees leading to the awards are distorted in order to meet the requirements of the institutions.

Teachers (Additional Jobs)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science to what extent, in fixing the pay for full-time teachers, weight is given to the possibility of their taking additional jobs.

University Teachers (Salary Scales)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what recommendations the University Grants Committee has made to him about the detailed arrangements for the application of the 5 per cent. increase in university teachers' salaries from 1st April 1966.

After discussion with the Vice-Chancellors' Committee and with representatives of the Association of University Teachers, the University Grants Committee have recommended that from 1st April, 1966, the salary scales of academic staff, other than clinical staff, should be as given below. The Government has accepted these recommendations.

Non-Medical Salaries

Assistant Lecturers—£1,105 by three increments to £1,340.

Lecturers—£1,470 by thirteen increments to £2,630.

Senior Lecturers and Readers—A range of salary scales with varying maxima up to £3,415.

Pre-clinical Salaries

Lecturers—£1,470 to maxima ranging from £2,630 to £3,415.

Senior Lecturers and Readers—Salaries within the new maxima for pre-clinical Lecturers.

Professors ( Non-clinical)

Salaries ranging from £3,570 to £4,990.

Ministry Of Defence

Service Men (Overseas Deaths)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, with a view to providing equitable consideration for the next of kin of deceased Service men who have died during peacetime service abroad, he will introduce an embalming service for the purpose of transporting the deceased home; and if he will make a statement.

Under present arrangements, the body of a Service man who dies in North-West Europe is brought home at public expense if the next of kin desire it; and those who die at sea are buried at sea. To introduce an embalming service for those who die in other places overseas would not necessarily make it possible to repatriate all bodies. What we are looking for is an arrangement that will be general, practical, and considerate of the feelings of the next of kin, and there are considerable difficulties to be overcome.

Satellites

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many satellites or missiles launched for observation or other military purposes are in regular daily orbit over the British Isles; and if he will make a statement on the security threat which they present.

The nations which launch satellites do not announce which, if any, are for military purposes. There have been about 500 over-flights in the last 12 months from all sources. The main security threat from satellites is of reconnaissance.Russian satellites in the KOSMOS series pass regularly over the United Kingdom in orbits suitable for reconnaissance purposes. They disappear from orbit after 8 days and are assumed to have been returned to earth.

Territorial Army (Wiltshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received from the hon. Member for Swindon regarding the disbandment of the Territorial Army in Wiltshire; what reply he sent; and if he will make a statement.

I have written to the hon. Member in reply to his letter of 2nd March to my hon. Friend.

Overseas Bases

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of overseas bases purchased or leased within the past five years, indicating the price or rent paid, and the amount of capital expended on such bases within that period.

No overseas bases have been purchased or leased within the past five years.

Forces Overseas

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the target date for the reduction by over 30 per cent. of British troops serving outside Europe; approximately how many men are involved; approximately how many men will be withdrawn from each station; when withdrawals will commence; and what proportion will be stationed in Germany and in the United Kingdom, respectively.

As I explained in my speech on the second day of the Defence Debate, there are cogent reasons for not defining precisely how and when we plan to cut the tasks of our forces overseas.

Minister Of Defence (Visit To America)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many of his staff flew to the United States of America on 26th January, 1966, by the Royal Air Force Comet used by the Secretary of State for Defence.

Rhodesian Nationals (British Passports)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs under what conditions British passports are issued to Rhodesians.

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the statement circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT on 25th January by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Relations. There has been no change in the procedure since that time, but the general question of passport facilities for Rhodesians is constantly under review.

Minister Of Labour And First Secretary Of State

Q1.

asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied that the division of responsibility on incomes policy and arbitration between the Minister of Labour and the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs is satisfactory; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave on 8th March to a similar Question by the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor).

Royal Commission On Medical Education

Q3.

asked the Prime Minister when the Royal Commission on Medical Education, which he announced on 29th June, 1965, will complete its work.

Rhodesia

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will invite Sir Robert Menzies or some other Commonwealth elder statesman to act as conciliator in the Rhodesian situation.

I do not think this would be appropriate, certainly at the present time.

Fishing Industry

Q2.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the need to expand and keep up to date the fishing industry, he will take steps to co-ordinate the activities of the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in the administration of this industry.

I am quite satisfied that the activities of the Ministers primarily responsible for fisheries are adequately co-ordinated; indeed, in most matters concerning the fishing industry statutory powers and duties are vested jointly in the Ministers and are exercised jointly.

Scientists And Professional Men (Employment In United States)

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if he will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to halt the flow of British scientists and professional men to employment in the United States of America.

Compulsory Retirement

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will state the Government's policy on compulsory retirement at arbitrary dates.

So far as Civil Servants are concerned they can retire on pension at 60; but, depending on their fitness and efficiency and on the requirements of the Service, they may stay on beyond that age if they so wish.

Prime Minister (Speech)

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will place in the Library of the House of Commons a copy of his public speech at the Guildhall on 7th February, 1966, on Her Majesty's Government's economic policy.

European Economic Community

asked the Prime Minister if he will undertake a study of the effect on food prices in Great Britain of entry into the Common Market; and what conclusions have been reached.

Precise calculations are not possible, for much would depend on supply and market conditions—in the Community, in this country and in the rest of the world—at the material time. It is certain, however, that there would be a very substantial increase in retail food prices here if he were to adopt the Community's levy system and then use it to keep prices at the levels which seem likely to prevail in the Common Market.The hon. Member will, however, have seen the estimate made by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food—OFFICIAL REPORT: 22nd December, 1965, col. 435—that to maintain our producers' returns by import levies at the present level of our guaranteed prices might increase the retail cost of food—both home and imported—by something like £400 million a year. If community farm prices after our entry into the Common Market, were as now above the present level of our guaranteed prices, the effect on the retail cost of food in the United Kingdom could be substantially more than this.

Scientists (Emigration)

asked the Prime Minister to what extent he estimates that the number of scientists leaving the country has increased since Her Majesty's Government took office.

I have no evidence to suggest that the permanent emigration of scientists has increased recently.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Wise Committee (Report)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the interim report of the Wise Committee, in view of the fact that this report will now not be in the hands of the House before the General Election.

No. The Report is a long and careful survey of the subject which will be published before Easter. It would be wrong for me either to attempt to summarise its contents in advance of publication or to form any hasty conclusions upon it.

Recruitment Of Aircraft Workers (Foreign Manufacturers)

asked the Prime Minister if, in view of the fact that a foreign aircraft manufacturer has set up a design office in the United Kingdom and is recruiting skilled aircraft designers in order to design foreign aircraft, he will set up a Royal Commission to inquire into the loss of technical skill from the United Kingdom.

Ministry Of Aviation

Tsr2 And F111 Aircraft (Cost)

asked the Minister of Aviation what would have been the total cost of ordering 50 TSR2s on the date when the project was cancelled; how this compares with the total cost of ordering 50 F111 As; and, in deciding to order the United States aircraft, what account he took of the £165 million cancellation costs of the TSR2 and any further costs that are likely to arise.

The total cost of ordering 50 TSR2s, on April 1965 estimates, would have been upwards of £475 million of which about £125 million had been spent at the time of cancellation. 50 F111s, at a price of £2½ million each, will cost £125 million, with an additional charge of about £25 million for interest. In reaching their decisions to cancel the TSR2 and to buy the F111, the Government took full account of all relevant factors, including expenditure and liabilities on the TSR2 and differences in support and running costs. The overall comparison, on a ten year basis, shows that 50 TSR2s would have cost about £300 million more than 50 F111s.

Aircraft Contracts (Cancellations)

asked the Minister of Aviation what cancellations of aircraft contracts have taken place and what orders have been placed since 1st November, 1964.

The major cancellations of aircraft contracts since 1st November, 1964, have been in respect of the TSR2, the P1154 and the HS681. There have also been some reductions in the total number of Lightning aircraft on order. These cancellations have, of course, required the cancellation of certain other contracts in respect of engines and equipment for these types of aircraft.As to orders for military aircraft placed since that date, I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Woking on 1st February and to the information in the Defence Review.In the same period the formal contract was placed for three additonal VC10 aircraft for the R.A.F. Orders were also placed for five civil type aircraft.

Concord Project (Contracts)

asked the Minister of Aviation what changes have been made in contract procedures for the Concord project since the publication of the report of the Public Accounts Committee.

A new contract has been placed with British Aircraft Corporation which covers the development and manufacture of the prototype aircraft in conjunction with Sud Aviation. Negotiations are nearly completed for the placing of a new contract with Bristol Siddeley Engines, Ltd., for the related engine development and manufacture in conjunction with Societe Nationale d'Etudes et de Construction de Moteurs d'Aviation. The requirements for this stage of the project are regarded as firm.Discussions have begun on the possibility of introducing incentive arrangements progressively into the contracts.

Automatic Landing Equipment

asked the Minister of Aviation (1) how much public money has been spent on developing British-made blind landing equipment; and how much he intends to spend next year;(2)why he has taken no steps towards the encouragement of the installation of British made blind landing equipment in British made aircraft;(3)what steps he has taken to encourage the export of British made blind landing equipment;(4)what steps he has taken to encourage the export of British-made autopilots.

My Department has given considerable encouragement and support, both technical and financial, for the development of United Kingdom automatic landing equipment and to its use, particularly in the VC10 and Trident. Public expenditure on development of automatic landing equipment and facilities goes back many years and covers both military and civil applications and ground installations at airports. I cannot give a total figure. Excluding the cost of the substantial technical assistance provided by the Department's research establishments the Department has spent something over £1 million in the past three years in direct support of development in industry of airborne automatic landing equipments. The scale of expenditure for the coming year has not yet been decided but substantial support will continue. The facilities provided by the Government in aid of exports which I described in my Answer to the hon. Member for Newark (Mr. Bishop) on 1st March are available to the manufacturers of this equipment and autopilot systems generally.

Air Corporations (Profits And Losses)

asked the Minister of Aviation what were the profits or losses in each of the last 10 years, after depreciation but before tax, of the nationalised industries for which he is responsible.

The results shown in B.O.A.C.'s and B.E.A.'s published profit and loss accounts, after interest and depreciation, in each of the last 10 years, are as follows:

B.O.A.CB.E.A.
£m.£m.
1955–56+0·9+0·6
1956–57−0·4+0·2
1957–58−3·5+0·6
1958–59−11·6+0·2
1959–60−0·5+2·1
1960–61−2·0+1·5
1961–62−50·1−1·5
1962–63−12·9−1·0
1963–64−10·4+3·0
1964–65+8·0+1·3

New Aircraft (Production Orders)

asked the Minister of Aviation what is the total value of orders placed in Great Britain for new aircraft by the Defence Department since October 1964.

The total value of production orders placed for new aircraft and their associated engines in the period specified is approximately £135 million; others are in course of negotiation.

Lockheed C130 Aircraft (British Components)

asked the Minister of Aviation why, following the announcement of his decision to buy Lockheed C130 aircraft in February 1965, it was not until July 1965 that he asked Lockheed to incorporate the maximum amount of British equipment.

Incorporation of British components in the C130 was raised with Lockheeds in March, 1965.

Airport, Stansted

asked the Minister of Aviation what progress he is making in his study of the report of his inspector following the inquiry into the siting at Stansted of a third airport for London; and when he expects to announce his findings.

Short Brothers And Harland

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will give a detailed breakdown of the £8,600,000 of contracts placed with Short Brothers and Harland since 16th October 1964, and of the £44,000 contracts cancelled.

A broad breakdown is:

£
Direct Contracts
Guided Weapons. Spares, Equipment and Services8m.
Aircraft Spares, Equipment and Services0·6m.
Cancellations
Guided Weapon Spares, Equipment and Services17,000
Aircraft Spares, Equipment and Services22,000
Miscellaneous5,000
It is not usual to publish more detailed information of military contracts.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will now make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's plans for Short Brothers and Harland, in the light of the Plowden Report.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave yesterday to the hon. Member for Belfast, South (Mr. Pounder).

Cancelled Projects (Redundant Employees)

asked the Minister of Aviation, how many employees in the aircraft industry were declared redundant as a result of the cancellation of the P1154, HS681 and TSR2; and how many of them have still to find employment.

I have been asked to reply. The number of employees declared redundant as a result of the cancellation of the P1154, HS681 and TSR2 was 8,226. On 14th February, 248 of these employees had still to find other employment.

British Guiana

Financial Aid

asked the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies what assistance the United Kingdom proposes to give British Guiana towards its budget on becoming independent.

Subject to Parliament approving the necessary provision, the United Kingdom will make a grant of up to £1 million towards the current budget for 1966.

Economic Affairs

Periodicals (Prices)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will now refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes the increases in the prices of periodicals.

Comprehensive Designers, Inc

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes the activities of Comprehensive Designers, Inc., a subsidiary in this country of the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation of America, who are paying 30 per cent. above the national norm to aircraft design staff engaged in design work here upon a United States aircraft.

My right hon. Friend is not at present contemplating such a reference, but a careful watch is being kept on the situation.

Productivity

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will give the actual increase in output, employment and output per head over the latest 12-month period for which figures are available in respect of all the industries listed in table 2.2 of Command Paper No. 2764.

Incomes (Two Or More Sources)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs to what extent the Government's policy on wages, prices and incomes applies to persons with many sources of income; whether the 3½ per cent. limitation should be applied to each of these incomes or to the total received; how this policy applies to those in receipt of payments for part-time work and expense payments; and on what basis such a policy is to be enforced.

We regard the general policy considerations set out in the White Paper on Prices and Incomes Policy (Cmnd. 2639) as applying in principle as much to people whose income derives from two or more sources as to anyone else. The application of the policy to particular cases will necessarily depend upon the circumstances.

Grocery Prices

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs (1) whether he is aware that during the month of February more than 500 grocery items from about 40 manufacturers rose in price, and that in some instances this was the second such rise in two consecutive months; how many of these price increases were considered by or reported to the National Board for Prices and Incomes; and with what results;(2) whether he is aware that 1,167 grocery prices have increased during the past two months; row many of these price increases were referred to the National Board for Prices and Incomes; and with what results.

Figures such as these are extremely misleading. The most reliable indicator—the food section of the index of retail prices—actually fell between December, 1965, and January, 1966, which is the last month for which we have figures.My right hon. Friends the First Secretary and the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food have not considered it necessary to refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes the prices of any grocery items.

Surtax Payers And Directors' Remuneration

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs on how many occasions the National Board for Prices and Incomes have considered the wages, salaries and fees paid to persons in the Surtax range; how many times they have considered directors' fees; and with what results.

Several inquiries undertaken by the National Board for Prices and Incomes have covered, among other groups, people likely to be paying Surtax. In some cases the remuneration of directors may have been relevant to their inquiries, but there has been no specific reference of directors' fees.

London Busmen (Pay Claim)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he is aware that the recent agreement on London bus drivers' pay was freely and voluntarily entered into by both sides; and what discussions he held with either side about his intentions before holding up this wage award.

No agreement on the pay of London busmen has yet been concluded. My hon. Friend will be aware that on 4th March, the Government referred the claim of the London busmen to the National Board for Prices and Incomes, together with those of busmen employed by municipal and company undertakings. The Board has been asked to examine these claims and the relationship between pay and conditions of busmen in the various sectors of the bus industry and to report as early as possible in May. As any settlement reached in the present negotiations on the pay of London busmen will not be implemented until the latter half of June of this year, this gives ample time for the Board to make its report before an agreement is finally concluded.

Aircraft Industry, Belfast

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will make a statement on the Arthur D. Little Report on diversification for the Belfast aircraft factory.

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will make a statement, before the dissolution of Parliament, on the consultants' report on Short Brothers and Harland.

We are urgently working on the questions raised in the Report, but I regret that at this moment I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave on 10th February to a simliar Question by the hon. Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills).

Productivity

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what was the rise in productivity in 1965 or in the latest 12-month period to date.

The latest 12-month period for which figures of productivity for the economy as a whole are available is the 12 months beginning October, 1964, and ending September, 1965. In this period output per man was greater than in the previous 12 months by 1·6 per cent. As weekly hours worked fell in the same period, output per man-hour increased at a greater rate. Figures are not available for the economy as a whole on that basis, but it is now estimated that in the case of manufacturing industry the increase for productivity per man-hour over the same period was about 3½ per cent.Present forecasts indicate that productivity is currently rising over the economy as a whole at a rate of about 2½ per cent. This will, of course, include important areas where the rise is greater.

Hospitals

Psychiatric Hospitals

asked the Minister of Health if he has completed his study of food in psychiatric hospitals; if he is satisfied that the diet for patients in those hospitals is not inferior to that in other hospitals; and if he will make a statement, with particular reference to Roundway Hospital at Devizes.

With regard to the first two parts of the hon. Member's Question, I am not in a position to add to my reply to the hon. Members for Westbury (Mr. Walters) and Devizes (Mr. Charles Morrison) on 14th February, 1966.The 12 hospitals on which the study was based did not include Roundway Hospital.

Free Beds

asked the Minister of Health if he will state the approximate daily average number of patients occupying free beds in hospitals in England and Wales during the last convenient period of 12 months.

New District General Hospital, Chester

asked the Minister of Health whether he will give an assurance that the building of the new District General Hospital near Chester will commence in 1967, or state when building is expected to commence.

This depends upon the current review of the Hospital Building Programme which is not yet complete.

Ministry Of Health

Doctors, Benfleet (Shortage)

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that representations were first made in 1964 by local general practitioners to the Executive Council for Essex regarding the likely shortage of doctors in Benfleet, since when the population has increased substantially; what steps have since been taken by the Executive Council to meet this situation; and what action he has taken in regard to the recent representations made to him on the subject by the hon. Member for South-East Essex.

Yes. The Executive Council and the Local Medical Committee have had the problem under continuous review and are to discuss it with the local doctors on 22nd March. They have advertised three times for a new doctor and expect to interview on 4th April applicants who replied to the latest advertisement. I am asking the Council to keep me informed of developments.

Drugs (Theft)

asked the Minister of Health if, in view of the alarming increase in thefts of drugs from drug cupboards in chemists' establishments, he will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to ensure that all drugs are kept locked in safes.

I have been asked to reply.I have no such proposal in mind at present, but I am studying the adequacy of existing controls over the storage of drugs.

Local Government

Local Government Boundaries (Sheffield)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will make a statement about his decision on the boundaries of the City of Sheffield, following the Report of the Local Government Commission for England, Yorkshire and North Midland General Review Area.

Welwyn Garden City And Hatfield (Assets)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a statement about his announced intention to transfer on 1st April the assets of the Welwyn Garden City and Hatfield Development Corporation, in view of the fact that no Order implementing this decision has been laid before Parliament.

In accordance with my decision announced to the House last December (OFFICIAL REPORT, 2nd December, 1965, col. 246, Written Answers to Questions), I made, on 7th February, the Welwyn Garden City and Hatfield Development Corporations (Transfer of Property and Dissolution) Orders, 1966 (S.I. 1966, Nos. 125 and 126).These are Orders under Section 41 of the New Towns Act, 1965, are not subject to annulment and are not required to be laid.

Housing

Improvement Grants (Advertising Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how much expenditure is involved in the advertising campaign in connection with house improvement grants; and in how many newspapers these advertisements are being carried.

The only recent expenditure concerns a campaign in Greater London. £5,627 14s. has been spent on advertisements in the two London evening papers and six local weekly papers, and on posters. This campaign has now been suspended until after the General Election.

Derelict Land (Faversham And Sittingbourne)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will carry out a survey of derelict land in the Faversham constituency area, and in particular, in Sittingbourne, to see what further land might be made available for development there.

Annual surveys of derelict land are undertaken by local authorities. At 31st December, 1964 there were 107 acres in the Faversham area, of which 69 were in Sittingbourne. The allocation of land for development is, in the first instance, a matter for the local planning authority. My right hon. Friend is not aware of a shortage of land in the area.

Land And Natural Resources

Department (Cost To Public Funds)

asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources what has been the cost to public funds of his Department from its inception in 1964 to the latest convenient date.

Net expenditure on the votes of the Ministry of Land and Natural Resources from its inception to the end of February, 1966 was £779,000.During the current financial year the expenditure has included the expenses of the National Parks Commission and the Water Resources Board together with expenditure on grants for National Parks in England and payments to river authorities in England and Wales under the Water Resources Act 1963.

Parliament (Televising And Broadcasting Of State Opening)

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will make a statement about televising and broadcasting the State Opening of the first Session of the new Parliament.

Her Majesty the Queen has been graciously pleased to give her consent to a proposal, which has the support of the Government and of the Opposition, that the State Opening of Parliament this year should be broadcast in television and sound. The arrangements are being concerted with the Lord Great Chamberlain.

Overseas Development

Commonwealth Countries (Career Service)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what action has been taken with regard to the establishment of a pensionable career service for experts working in the Commonwealth.

Thorough examination has been made of this idea in recent years but it has shown that a career service would be impracticable. The present-day demand is for British people to serve temporarily in the developing countries of the Commonwealth. Britain's ability to meet this demand is being improved by the implementation of the plans announced in Chapter XI of the Command Paper "Overseas Development: The Work of the New Ministry" (Cmnd. 2736, August, 1965), including the establishment of a corps of specialists in the employment of the Ministry of Overseas Development.

Pensions And National Insurance

Retirement Pensions (Value)

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what is the true increase in the purchasing power of the retirement pension brought in by the present Government, in view of the fact that the value of the £ sterling has fallen by 1s. 1d.

The retirement pensions of 80s. for a single person and 130s. for a couple are, at current prices, worth, respectively, 3s. 1d. and 5s. less than when they were introduced in March, 1965. The increases of 12s. 6d. for a single person and 21s. for a married couple then made are now worth 12s. and 20s. 2d. respectively.

Widows Benefits

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what was the cost of the 1965 increase in the 10s. widows' pension to 30s., the cost of the increase in the widowed mother's allowance, and the cost of abolishing the earnings rule for widows benefit, respectively, in a full year.

£5 million, £5½ million and £8 million respectively (including the increased additions for children in the cost of the increase in the widowed mother's allowance).

Telephone Service

Electronic Exchange Equipment

asked the Postmaster-General (1) how many telephone exchanges will be equipped with electronic switching in each of the next five years;(2) if he will make a statement on his policy regarding the installation of electronic switching in the telephone system of the United Kingdom.

My policy is to change over to the installation of fully electronic exchange equipment as quickly as practicable. New exchanges up to 2,000 lines capacity ordered from now on will be electronic. Orders for five exchanges of this kind have already been placed and the first is expected to come into service by the end of this year. There will be follow-on orders for fifty similar exchanges and these are expected to come into service in the late 1960s. The development of larger electronic exchanges and of electronic equipment for extending existing electro-mechanical exchanges is proceeding satisfactorily but has not yet reached the stage at which ordering programmes can be prepared.

Wireless And Television

Independent Television Authority (Coverage)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will now make a statement about the Independent Television Authority's plan for improving and extending the coverage of their services.

Yes. I have now given my approval in principle to the proposals made by the I.T.A. to build low-power relay stations in the following areas:

  • Whitehaven.
  • Barnstable/Bideford.
  • Hereford/Gloucester.
  • Bath.
  • Ffestiniog.
  • Llandovery.
  • Llandrindod Wells.
  • Bala.
  • Abergavenny.
  • Brecon.
  • Rothesay.
  • Central Ayrshire (Dalmellington/Patna/Waterside).
  • Helensburgh.
  • These thirteen stations, which the I.T.A. hope to complete by 1969, are expected to bring the I.T.A.'s service for the first time to an additional 370,000 people and improve reception for some 210,000 more.

    These proposals mark a further phase of the I.T.A.'s programme for extending and improving the coverage of their service. The Authority are now planning an additional group of stations.

    Ministry Of Power

    Electricity And Gas Tariffs (Nbpi Report No 7)

    asked the Minister of Power whether the Government have now considered the National Board for Prices and Incomes' Report No. 7 on Electricity and Gas Tariffs; what action he will take; and if he will make a statement.

    The recommendations and suggestions made by the National Board for Prices and Incomes in its Report No. 7 on Electricity and Gas Tariffs have been carefully studied.The Government agrees that it is important to have long-term trends in view when fixing prices, as being consistent with the Government's fuel policy announced in Cmnd. 2798 and conducive to the objective of price stability over as long a run of years as possible.It also agrees with the importance of the two provisos set out in paragraph 23 of the report which advise that too optimistic anticipation of future lower costs may result in the expansion of demand which cannot be met, and that too easy a release of management from financial objectives in anticipation of lower costs may defeat its purpose by slackening financial discipline.The Government accepts the specific recommendations at paragraph 83(i) and (iv) of the Report, which have already been implemented.As regards the Scottish Gas Board, the Government accepts the National Board's finding that a 13 per cent. increase in tariffs is needed immediately. It also accepts the recommendation that the increase on the running rate should be modified, and the balance placed in the standing charge. The Scottish Gas Board will announce revised proposals to this effect. The Government has also studied with close attention the National Board's proposals for segregating an estimated non-recurrent element in costs, and after re-examination of the estimates in the light of the winter's experience and the actual situation today, inclines to the view that the Scottish Board might be unwise to designate any part of the increase as temporary. The Scottish Board will naturally keep its tariffs under constant review, and any adjustments that may later appear desirable and possible will be made.As regards the South Western Gas Board, the consequences of the abrupt transition which will occur if all coal carbonisation based on the ten-year 1·2 million ton coal contract is replaced at the end of 1969 by gas from oil are fully appreciated. Consultations are taking place between the Board and the National Coal Board to see whether the problems of investment and transfer of labour, which would in this case be concentrated into one year, could not be alleviated by running down the contract in such a way as to spread out the same total contract tonnage of coal over a rather longer period. The National Board has recommended that the South Western Gas Board should in present circumstances aim to do no more than break even in 1966–67, and has estimated that an increase in tariffs of approximately 3 per cent. would achieve this. The South Western Gas Board's tariff proposals were prepared last summer on the basis of estimates derived from experience of the winter of 1964–65. Experience of the winter of 1965–66 has made revision necessary to take account of substantial additions to costs. The Government recognises that in these altered circumstances the South Western Board will need an increase of 7 per cent. to meet the National Board's recommendation of breaking even.My comments on the suggestions made in paragraph 84 of Report No. 7 are as follows (the numbers refer to the sub-paragraphs in the Report):—

  • (i) The financial performance of the two Scottish Electricity Boards is at present under discussion between them and the Secretary of State for Scotland.
  • (ii) Early in 1965 the Government introduced legislation to meet the end proposed by the National Board. Last August the Gas Act, 1965 imposed on the Gas Council the duty of promoting and assisting the co-ordinated development of efficient and economical gas supplies in Great Britain, and empowered it to manufacture, buy, and supply gas in bulk to Area Boards. The Act also enables me to strengthen the membership of the Council by additional appointments, and this I shall do. The Council has already announced a re-organisation and strengthening of its internal structure.
  • (iii) My Department and the Ministry of Housing and Local Government and the Scottish Development Department keep under regular review the requirements for solid smokeless fuels and the contributions of the various manufacturing interests to meeting them. They advise the respective Clean Air Councils from time to time of the supply situation. The Councils are aware that the gas industry's contribution is on the decline.
  • (iv) Similar suggestions have been made in the past and have not been found easy to meet, but I am having the question re-examined.
  • (v) The gas and electricity industries already apply a higher rate of return, when assessing the profitability of new investment, than the rate on total average net assets which each Board is required to earn under the terms of its financial objective.
  • (vi) This suggestion, which raises some practical difficulties, will be looked at when considering the financial objectives to operate from April, 1967.
  • Public Building And Works

    Government Buildings, Whitehall (Photographic Records)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he will ensure that photographic records are made of all Government buildings in Whitehall and deposited with the National Monuments Record.

    Scotland

    Medical Students And General Practitioners

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans have been made for increasing the numbers of medical students; and if he will make a statement on his proposals, financial and otherwise, to alleviate the problems of general practitioners.

    On the first part of the Question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health on 26th January. On the second part of the Question, I would ask my hon. Friend to await the publication of the final report of the negotiations between the Government and representatives of the profession, and the report of the review body on levels of remuneration.

    Health Centres

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on his future plans for the creation of health centres.

    I have undertaken to provide health centres in the new towns of Livingston and Cumbernauld and in Glasgow. Proposals for health centres in a number of other areas are being considered. Generally, within the limits of our resources, I want to encourage the development of health centres wherever the local conditions are favourable.

    Housing

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the number of houses built by public authorities and in the private sector, respectively, for each month for each of the years 1960 to 1965.

    Smoke Control Orders

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the progress made on the implementation of smoke control orders.

    As is shown in the following table, 82 smoke control area orders have been made by 21 local authorities, covering over 229,000 premises. 5 of these orders have not yet been confirmed and 14 others are not yet in operation.

    Local AuthorityNumber of orders madeNumber of premises covered
    DomesticOthers
    CITIES
    Dundee817,6201,508
    Edinburgh1119,2392,617
    Glasgow16117,60511,195
    BURGHS
    Barrhead172216
    Clydebank55,237148
    Coatbridge45,683124
    Dumbarton53,95740
    East Kilbride47,25683
    Falkirk42,665420
    Grangemouth31,70218
    Kilmarnock1281
    Milngavie14
    Motherwell24,26786
    Paisley611,999610
    Renfrew21,38918
    Rutherglen12,13931
    COUNTIES
    Fife12,8725
    Lanark12,18735
    Midlothian15
    Stirling45,317239
    West Lothian124
    TOTALS82212,17017,193

    Road Improvements

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland by how much the total expenditure on maintenance and minor improvements for roads in Scotland will have been reduced in the current financial year as a result of the Government's economic measures.

    The reduction, if any, will be marginal since the Government's economy measures applied only to areas outside development districts, and there to individual minor improvement schemes costing £25,000 or over which authorities were able to defer.

    School Building Programmes

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland which local authorities in Scotland have been asked to postpone or reduce their school building programmes owing to the financial situation.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will give the cost or estimated cost of school building programmes in Scotland for 1964, 1965, and 1966, respectively; and what increases or decreases in real terms have been made in these years.

    The cost of school building projects started or to start in Scotland in 1964–65, 1965–66 and 1966–67 is as follows:

    1964–651965–661966–67
    £17·4m.£18·0m. *£19·0m. *
    * Estimated.
    Cost limits for schools have been maintained at the same level throughout 1964–65 and 1965–66.

    Special Constables (Glasgow)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what reply he has sent to the Corporation of Glasgow with regard to its request for estended duties for the special constabulary.

    I was asked by Glasgow Corporation to relax the restrictions imposed on the number of tours of duty undertaken by special constables for training purposes so as to allow 50 tours per annum instead of 12. A circular which meets this request was issued yesterday; the Corporation was informed that this would be done.

    Murders And Crimes Of Violence (Glasgow)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the number of murders and the number of crimes of violence known to the police which have been committed in Glasgow in each of the last five years.

    The following is the information:

    CRIMES MADE KNOWN TO THE POLICE—GLASGOW
    MurdersCrimes of violence against the person (including murder)
    19617577
    196210523
    19635625
    196412713
    196518918

    Hospital Patients (Free Beds)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the approximate daily average number of patients occupying free beds in hospitals in Scotland during the last convenient period of 12 months.

    For the year ended 30th September, 1965, the approximate figure was 53,500.

    Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland approximately how many children in Scotland, at the latest convenient date, were enjoying state education without their parents making any direct contribution to the cost.

    On 15th January, 1965, about 857,000 pupils were attending, at the education authorities expense, non-fee-paying schools and departments managed by education authorities or grant-aided and independent schools.

    Technology

    Department (Cost To Public Funds)

    asked the Minister of Technology what has been the cost to public funds of his Department, excluding the Atomic Energy Authority, the Government research stations and the National Research and Development Corporation, from its formation until the latest convenient date.

    Railways

    Passenger Services (Closure Refusals)

    asked the Minister of Transport what were the total annual losses incurred by rail services for which closure proposals have been refused since 1964.

    The Railways Board estimates the annual value of direct savings denied to them through refusals to the closure of passenger services since 1st January, 1964, as approximately £1·6 million.

    Commuter Services (Overcrowding And Staggering Of Working Hours)

    asked the Minister of Transport (1) what action has been taken by her Department to help reduce overcrowding on commuter train services by encouraging greater staggering of working hours in the London area; (2) what further steps she proposes to take to help reduce overcrowding on commuter train services by encouraging greater staggering of working hours in the London area; (3) how many employees in each of the past five years have been brought into arrangements to stagger working hours in the London area; and what progress is being made to encourage the greater use of staggered working hours.

    My Department has long been encouraging the staggering of hours in London and established the London Staggering of Hours Committee and the associated zone committees for this. My Department and several other Government offices have set an example in this matter by staggering their hours of work. I will write to my hon. Friend about the figures for the last five years.The Greater London Council has recently announced that it proposes to attack the problem of encouraging further staggering; and my new Transport Co-ordinating Council for London will be in a good position to help them.

    Transport

    Nationalised Industries (Profits And Losses)

    asked the Minister of Transport what were the profits or losses in each of the last 10 years, after depreciation but before tax, of each of the nationalised industries for which she is responsible.

    The figures are as follows:

    British Transport Commission
    £m.
    1955−30·6
    1956−54·4
    1957−63·5
    1958−89·0
    1959−73·8
    1960−100·9
    1961−122·0
    1962−143·6
    19631964
    £m.£m.
    British Railways Board−133·9−120·9
    London Transport Board2·11·3
    British Transport Docks Board1·51·6
    British Waterways Board−1·5−1·5
    Transport Holding Company9·913·7

    In all cases the figures are after depreciation and interest but before tax (including taxation equalisation provisions).

    National Parks (Buxton Report On Roads And Traffic)

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she has now considered the minute of the Buxton Conference on Roads and Traffic in National Parks recently sent to her by the Friends of the Lake District; and what reply she has sent.

    I have thanked the Friends of the Lake District for the copy of their Minute which I am studying with interest in consultation with my right, hon. Friends the Minister of Land and Natural Resources and the Minister of Housing and Local Government. My hon. Friend will by now have received the Answer to his Question to the Minister of Land and Natural Resources.

    Roads

    Motorways

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the mileage of motorway completed in the past five years in the United Kingdom.

    248¾ miles in England. My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State inform me that the figures for Scotland and Wales are 7·05 miles and nil, respectively. The Government of Northern Ireland is responsible for motorways in that territory.

    National Finance

    Members (Free Postage Facilities)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement about the use of official paid envelopes for correspondence sent by Members of Parliament to chief officers of local authorities and senior officers of police.

    My right hon. Friend can accept the recommendations for an extension of free postage facilities for Members as set out in the Third Report from the Select Committee on House of Commons (Services).

    Non-Industrial Civil Servants

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the number of non-industrial civil servants

    NON-INDUSTRIAL STAFF IN GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS
    DepartmentStaff in Post at 1st October, 1964Staff in Post at 1st January, 1966
    Agricultural Research Council99*
    Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, Ministry of14,73914,554
    Ancient Monuments (Wales and Mons.) R.C.1314
    Aviation, Ministry of24,41824,715
    British Museum9791,079
    British Museum (Natural History)526536
    Cabinet Office391408
    Charity Commission 244275
    Civil Service Commission581628
    Civil Service Pay Research Unit3134
    Colonial Office 629600
    Commonwealth Relations Office1,806
    County Courts5,1625,271
    Crown Estate Office 133128
    Customs and Excise 15,85216,633
    Defence (Central), Ministry of2,5233,081
    Defence (Air Force), Ministry of26,03525,006
    Defence (Army), Ministry of48,70448,044
    Defence (Navy), Ministry of32,12632,550
    Development Commission21*
    Economic Affairs, Department of517
    Education and Science, Department of3,4413,904
    Exchequer and Audit 545541
    Export Credits Guarantee Department1,0921,168
    Fine Art Commission, Royal65
    Foreign Office†7,77510,249
    Forestry Commission2,775*
    Friendly Societies Registry105105
    General Register Office1,1961,239
    Government Actuary4348
    Health, Ministry of5,2325,613
    Health, Welsh Board of184183
    Historical Manuscripts Commission1414
    Historical Monuments (England) R.C.6069
    Home Office15,13415,771
    Housing and Local Government, Ministry of3,1923,565
    Housing and Local Government, Welsh Office of227
    Imperial War Museum97107
    Information, Central Office of1,4901,595
    Inland Revenue56,46558,958
    Labour, Ministry of20,78121,613
    Land and Natural Resources, Ministry of270
    Land Registry2,6363,019
    Law Officers' Department99
    Local Government Commission for England4031
    London Museum7166
    Mint202253
    National Assistance Board13,24113,884
    National Board for Prices and Incomes87
    National Debt Office5051
    National Economic Development Office107
    National Gallery150166
    National Maritime Museum126122
    National Parks Commission2431
    National Portrait Gallery4549
    National Savings Committee632622
    Ordnance Survey3,8933,906
    Paymaster General's Office640631
    Pensions and National Insurance, Ministry of40,03540,567

    in each Government Department on 16th October, 1964, and on 1st March, 1966, respectively.

    The information, at the nearest dates at which it is available, is as follows:

    DepartmentStaff in Post at 1st October 1964Staff in Post at 1st January 1966
    Post Office277,331395,474‡
    Power, Ministry of1,6151,636
    Privy Council Office3033
    Public Building and Works, Ministry of20,72720,853
    Public Prosecutions Department106107
    Public Record Office219220
    Public Trustee559532
    Public Works Loan Board5353
    Registrar of Restrictive Trading Agreements111102
    Scientific and Industrial Research, Department of5,373
    Stationery Office2,9663,030
    Supreme Court of Judicature1,8121,859
    Supreme Court (N. Ireland)106107
    Tate Gallery119136
    Technical Co-operation, Department of1,6232,186§
    Technology, Ministry of4,245
    Trade, Board of7,8839,743
    Transport, Ministry of7,8106,903
    Treasury1,5001,609
    Treasury Subordinate Departments126120
    Treasury Solicitor354378
    Wallace Collection6264
    Welsh Office427
    Total United Kingdom (except Scottish Departments)687,145812,508
    Scottish Departments
    Accountant of Court2020
    Agriculture and Fisheries, Department of2,6182,763
    Ancient Monuments (Scotland) R.C.1412
    Court of Justiciary77
    Court of Session8083
    Crown Office1314
    Exchequer (Q.L.T.R.)6365
    General Register Office (Scotland)182229
    Lord Advocate's Department1213
    National Galleries (Scotland)7579
    National Library (Scotland)111116
    National Museum of Antiquities of Scotland2628
    Procurator Fiscal Service182194
    Registers of Scotland256267
    Royal Observatory Edinburgh41
    Scottish Development Department701763
    Scottish Education Department663727
    Scottish Home and Health Department2,9313,177
    Scottish Land Court1919
    Scottish Law Commission12
    Scottish Record Office7982
    Scottish Savings Committee5556
    Sheriff Clerk Service308318
    Total Scottish Departments8,4569,044
    Total All Departments695,601821,552
    Total all Departments except Post Office418,270426,078
    * Staff of these Grant-aided authorities are no longer counted as civil servants.
    † On 1st January, 1965, Foreign Office and Commonwealth Relations Office were combined to form the Diplomatic Service.
    ‡ Nearly all Post Office Industrial staff were reclassified as non-industrial on 1st April, 1965.
    § Ministry of Overseas Development.

    Nationalised Industries (Advances And Grants)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what contribution from Government funds he proposes to make to the nationalised industries within his responsibility in respect of current deficit and capital account, respectively, for each of the next five years; and what were the comparable figures for each of the last 10 years.

    NET EXCHEQUER LOANS FOR CAPITAL PURPOSES
    £million
    1955–561956–571957–581955–591959–60
    MINISTRY OF POWER
    National Coal Board*94·011·297·087·3113·1
    Electricity Council148·0117·1128·2189·6
    Gas Council24·031·022·825·8
    MINISTRY OF AVIATION
    British Overseas Airways Corporation9·931·224·26·6
    British European Airways7·19·05·610·4
    MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT
    British Transport Commission†70·065·2111·5110·5
    British Railways Board
    London Transport Board
    British Transport Docks Board
    British Waterways Board
    Transport Holding Company
    1960–611961–621962–631963–641964–65
    MINISTRY OF POWER
    National Coal Board*2·323·9−25·0−18·533·1
    Electricity Council153·3191·2192·3250·0317·0
    Gas Council19·612·620·968·849·8
    MINISTRY OF AVIATION
    British Overseas Airways Corporation20·111·111·54·55·0
    British European Airways11·821·63·70·71·7
    MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT
    British Transport Commission†145·0124·664·2
    British Railways Board20·0
    London Transport Board7·313·0
    British Transport Docks Board
    British Waterways Board0·50·6
    Transport Holding Company
    EXCHEQUER GRANTS TO MEET DEFICITS
    £million
    1955–561956–571957–581958–591959–60
    British Transport Commission
    British Railways Board
    British Waterways Board
    1960–611961–621962–631963–641964–65
    British Transport Commission104·8152·9134·4
    British Railways Board20·0126·5119·4
    British Waterways Board0·11·31·6
    * Under the Coal Industry Act 1965 £415 million of the Board's debt at 28th March, 1965 was written off.
    † Under the Transport Act 1962 accumulated revenue losses of the Commission totalling £486·9 million were written off. The Exchequer received from the Commission cash and investments to the book value of £54·8 million.
    ‡ Prior to the Finance Act 1956 capital was normally raised by the issue of stock.

    The following tables show, for each of the nationalised industries within the responsibilities of the Ministers of Power, Aviation and Transport:

    • (a) Net Exchequer advances for capital purposes
    • (b) Exchequer grants to meet deficits on current account.
    Forecasts of advances and grants in future years will be published shortly in the annual Loans from the Consolidated Fund White Paper.

    Short-Term International Loans

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the amount of interest and charges paid so far on the short-term international loans incurred since October, 1964; and what he expects will be the eventual total interest and charges payable on the £899 million outstanding to the International Monetary Fund and Switzerland at the present time.

    It is not customary to disclose details of the arrangements under which short-term assistance is given by Central Banks. The eventual total charges to be paid to the I.M.F. and Switzerland will depend on when repayment is made. I.M.F. charges are explained in "International Financial Statistics" which is available in the Library.

    International Monetary Fund (Subscription)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the United Kingdom's additional subscription to the International Monetary Fund will be paid; and what will be the effect on the United Kingdom's drawing rights.

    Before 25th March, 1966, the United Kingdom will pay to the International Monetary Fund the subscription

    NEW GOVERNMENT PROPOSALS AND ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS
    Cost
    Agriculture
    New investment incentives for agriculture and horticulture£12–£13 million offset by the ending of investment allowances.
    Assistance to owner-occupiers
    (a) "Option" mortgagesAbout £10–£12 million in the first full year.
    (b) Guarantees for loans which are an exceptionally large proportion of valuation.Cost will depend on the final form of the scheme but unlikely to be large.
    Centre for Environmental Studies
    Cost (Exchequer grant) when fully staffed£100,000 p.a.
    Colour Television
    Estimated cost of introduction of colour television to the B.B.C.£6 million in 1966–70.
    Companies Bill
    No significant additional cost (but increased fees are expected to increase receipts by about £1·5 million p.a.).
    Decimalisation of the currency
    Total cost falling on the Exchequer (including tax relief) spread over a number of years.About £60 million.
    Defence
    The Government's intentions were announced in the "Statement on the Defence Estimates, 1966" (Cmnd. 2901 and 2902).
    Development Areas
    Extension of development areas and additional incentives for new projects (other than investment grants for plant and machinery).£5–£10 million in a full year.

    of £175 million corresponding to the United Kingdom's increased quota. £131,250,000 is being paid in sterling, and £43,750,000 in gold. The gold part of the subscription is being covered by a simultaneous special drawing from the Fund. The operation will have no effect on the gold and foreign exchange reserves, but will give us additional drawing rights equivalent to the amount of the subscription.

    Government Appointments

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take action to ensure that all Government appointments to full-time and part-time paid positions shall be on such a basis that the returns received by those persons shall not exceed the Government's 3½ per cent. norm above their former wage or salary scale.

    Government Proposals And Administrative Decisions

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the new Government proposals and administrative decisions, together with the cost of each, that have been announced since 1st January, 1966.

    Cost

    Establishment of Industrial Reorganisation Corporation

    It is proposed that the Exchequer should advance up to £150 million to the Corporation, partly in the form of Exchequer dividend capital and partly in the form of loan capital.The Corporation's investments are intended to be profitable.

    Export Credit

    Further extensions of the facilities offered by the Export Credits Guarantee Department, to be provided as part of the Department's normal commercial operations.

    Fairfields (Glasgow) Ltd.

    Provision of share and loan capital. (Working capital may also be provided up to £0·5 million.)£1·5 million.

    Finance of Local Government

    Proposals set out in "Local Government Finance, England and Wales" (Cmnd. 2923) and "Local Government Finance, Scotland" (Cmnd. 2921). (These proposals will result in increased Exchequer expenditure of about £33 million in 1967–68, £66 million in 1968–69, £99 million in 1969–70, but will not increase total public expenditure.)

    Fishing Industry

    New investment incentives for fishing vessels£2 million in a full year, offset by the ending of investment allowances.

    Home Defence

    Establishment of a Home Defence ForceAbout £3 million p.a.

    Investment Incentives

    Board of Trade grants in respect of investment in 1966 are expected to be of the order of £250 million, but this cost will be offset by savings on tax allowances etc. of roughly the same order.

    Latin-American Studies

    Implementation of the Parry Report£100,000 in 1965–66 and 1966–67.

    "Leisure in the Countryside" (Cmnd. 2928)

    Eventual cost of the proposals may reach £2 million p.a.About £2 million p.a.

    Ministry of Social Security

    It is not possible to estimate whether there will be any net cost.
    Proposal to establish a Ministry of Social Security merging the Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance and the National Assistance Board.

    Overseas Aid

    Loan to India£7·5 million.
    Loan to Chile£0·75 million.
    Extension of Overseas Students Welfare Expansion Programme£2·5 million.

    Protection of Consumers (Trade Descriptions) Bill

    Additional expenditure by local authorities£0·5 million p.a.

    Prototype Fast Reactor

    Construction of Prototype Fast Reactor at Dounreay£30 million in 1966–73.

    Replacement of existing State pensions

    Replacement of existing State pensions by new comprehensive scheme of earnings related benefits and graduated contributions.Cost figures cannot yet be given.

    Royal Commissions on Local Government in England and Wales, and in Scotland

    Initial annual cost about £25,000 rising to £35,000£25,000 to £35,000 annually.

    Special help for cities with exceptional slum and overcrowding problems

    The special help is being provided by bringing forward the new housing subsidies foreshadowed in "The Housing Programme 1965 to 1970" (Cmnd. 2838).About £2½ million in 1966℃67 and about £5½ million p.a. thereafter.

    Training of Labour

    Improvements in assistance for the training of labour for firms in development districts.Rising to £350,000 in 1968℃69 and subsequent years.

    Voluntary Schools Grants (England and Wales)

    Raising of level of grant to 75 per cent. and extending basis of grant.£2·8 million in the period 1967–68 to 1969–70.

    Government Departments (Advertising Expenditure)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proportion of advertising expenditure of each Government Department during the years

    ADVERTISING EXPENDITURE IN THE U.K. BY GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS
    £000
    Department1963–64
    T.V. AdvertisingOther AdvertisingTotal
    TimeTotalPress DisplayTotal
    Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food1414
    Ministry of Aviation 2121
    Civil Service Commission9696
    Ministry of Defence: Air Force Department324352352
    Army Department3463865746641,050
    Navy Department345444444
    Department of Education and Science122
    Export Credits Guarantee Department545454
    Ministry of Health 468080
    Home Office1111321385396
    Ministry of Housing and Local Government284242
    Ministry of Labour 1616
    National and Scottish Savings Committees1474577578
    Ministry of Overseas Development51515
    Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance777979
    Post Office93104759879983
    Ministry of Public Building and Works11414
    Scottish Home and Health Department173030
    Board of Trade11
    Ministry of Transport131935101120
    Other Departments 309191
    TOTAL4635213,0913,9574,478
    Department1964–65
    T.V. AdvertisingOther AdvertisingTotal
    TimeTotalPress DisplayTotal
    Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food1616
    Ministry of Aviation 3232
    Civil Service Commission201201
    Ministry of Defence: Air Force Department487538538
    Army Department4724846918831,367
    Navy Department8489399510599
    Department of Education and Science262929
    Export Credits Guarantee Department575757
    Ministry of Health 79163163
    Home Office24321383387
    Ministry of Housing and Local Government405454
    Ministry of Labour 144444
    National and Scottish Savings Committees530638638
    Ministry of Overseas Development123232
    Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance727575
    Post Office48491,0301,1451,194
    Ministry of Public Building and Works31616
    Scottish Home and Health Department1012235870
    Board of Trade11
    Ministry of Transport172183184285468
    Other Departments 138484
    TOTAL7888213,9815,2446,065

    1963–64, 1964–65, and 1965–66 was spent on the purchase of television time and on display in the Press, respectively.

    Department

    1965–66 (estimated)

    T.V. Advertising

    Other Advertising

    Total

    Time

    Total

    Press Display

    Total

    Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food1818
    Ministry of Aviation

    6262
    Civil Service Commission288288
    Ministry of Defence: Air Force Department584653653
    Army Department4204518149701,421
    Navy Department572734734
    Department of Education and Science99107107
    Export Credits Guarantee Department575757
    Ministry of Health

    134244244
    Home Office6772438543615
    Ministry of Housing and Local Government415454
    Ministry of Labour

    194545
    National and Scottish Savings Committees1587738739
    Ministry of Overseas Development1515
    Ministry of Pensions and National Insurance101111
    Post Office21271,1901,7141,741
    Ministry of Public Building and Works33434
    Scottish Home and Health Department56346369
    Board of Trade205208208
    Ministry of Transport97145145
    Other Departments

    21141141
    TOTAL5135574,9056,8447,401

    Notes

    • (1) This table contains more complete information that that given in reply to a question by the hon. Member for Londonderry on 2nd February, 1966, and supersedes it.
    • (2) Television advertising includes the cost of films shown on television.
    • (3) Other advertising comprises advertising in the press (display and classified), the cinema and by posters and leaflets.
    • (4) Figures have been rounded to the nearest one thousand pounds.

    Ministry Of Labour

    Agricultural Training Board

    asked the Minister of Labour what further progress he has made in his plans to set up an agricultural training board; when he expects to establish it; and if he will make a statement.

    Good progress is being made on the detailed work to establish this Board which I hope to set up during the summer. I have it in mind that the Board should cover activities in agriculture, horticulture and in private forestry.

    Bradford (Unemployment And Vacancies)

    asked the Minister of Labour what is the most recent figure of unemployment in the Bradford area expressed as a percentage rate; what are the corresponding figures for the years 1955 to December 1965; and how many vacancies are at present notified, giving a separate figure for skilled vacancies.

    Following is the information:

    NUMBERS UNEMPLOYED AND PERCENTAGE RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE BRADFORD TRAVEL-TO-WORK AREA*
    DatesNumbersPercentage Rate
    14th February, 19559230·6
    13th February, 19567480·4
    11th February, 19571,0410·6
    17th February, 19582,2961·3
    9th February, 19594,1912·4
    15th February, I9601,4180·8
    13th February, 19611,3040·7
    12th February, 19623,2411·8
    11th February, 19635,3303·0
    10th February, 19642,4261·4
    8th February, 19651,8601·0
    6th December, 19651,3760·8
    14th February, 19661,3090·7
    * The Bradford travel-to-work group comprises the Bradford and Shipley Employment Exchanges and associated Youth Employment Offices.
    At 6th December, 1965, the latest date for which an occupational analysis of unfilled vacancies is available, 1,438 notified vacancies for adults remained unfilled of which 176 were for skilled occupations.

    Equal Pay

    asked the Minister of Labour what progress he is making in his plans to hold discussions with the Trades Union Congress and the Confederation of British Industries on the implementation of the Report of the Committee on Equal Pay.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Clapham (Mrs. McKay) on 11th February.