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Volume 730: debated on Wednesday 29 June 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 29th June, 1966

Transport

London Transport Board (Deficit)

9.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated deficit of the London Transport Board for the year ending 31st December, 1967.

Parking Meter Revenue (Off-Street Parking)

27.

asked the Minister of Transport how much of the money collected from parking meters has been used for off-street car parking facilities.

Up to 31st March, 1965, local authorities had spent on off-street car parks £564,734 of the revenue from parking meters. This is about 14 per cent. of the gross revenue or about 55 per cent. of the net revenue.

Transport Holding Company

52.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will take steps to vary the objects of the Transport Holding Company so that bus undertakings owned by the Company are no longer required to make a profit after they have provided for their costs and replacement of vehicles.

No. This would provide no lasting relief to fares and would be inconsistent with the normal requirement that nationalised industries should produce a reasonable return on their capital.

Transport Users' Consultative Committees

56.

asked the Minister of Transport what publicity she gives to the membership and proceedings of the central and area transport users' consultative committees, apart from publicity connected with the discontinuance or reduction of transport services.

When my right hon. Friend makes appointments to the committees she issues notices to the Press giving the details.

The Central Committee and the Committees for Scotland and for Wales and Monmouthshire make annual reports to her of their work. These are laid before both Houses and are on sale to the public.

57.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will make it a condition of the appointment of a proportion of members of area transport users' consultative committees that they should be regular holders of second-class season tickets on the railways.

No, but as part of the review my right hon. Friend announced yesterday in Answer to a Question by my hon. Friend, the Member for Willesden, West (Mr. Pavitt), she will consider whether the representation on the committees of the interests of regular railway passengers ought to be improved.

Learner Motorcyclists (Compulsory Training)

59.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has to introduce legislation to make the training of learner-drivers for motorcycles compulsory; and if she will make a statement.

Proper training for learner motorcyclists is most important, and we would like to see more of it. But compulsory training is impracticable without a very considerable expansion of training facilities. A report on how the existing voluntary training schemes could be expanded is being prepared and an announcement will be made about this as soon as possible.

Yorkshire Humberside Traffic (Dartford Tunnel)

61.

asked the Minister of Transport at what point she intends that road traffic between Yorkshire and Humberside and the proposed Channel Tunnel shall cross the Thames, wide of London.

Traffic between the north-east and the south-east would be most likely to use the Dartford Tunnel.

Motor Vehicles (Noise)

63.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps she is taking to abate the nuisance caused by noise from vehicle exhausts.

The Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations require all motor vehicles to have an exhaust silencer, and also prohibit excessive noise. But my right hon. Friend hopes to strengthen these by making it an offence for various classes of motor vehicles to exceed prescribed maximum noise levels.

Commercial Vehicle Licensing (Anglo-French Agreement)

64.

asked the Minister of Transport when negotiations between her Department and the French Ministry of Transport were initiated to secure a reciprocal treaty governing commercial vehicle licensing and taxation; what progress there has been to date; when a reciprocal treaty will be signed with France; and if she will make a statement.

The first exploratory conversations took place on 21st May, 1965. Negotiations are proceeding. Both sides are anxious to reach agreement quickly, but it is too early to say when a formal bilateral agreement will be concluded.

Motor Vehicles (Safety Designs)

69.

asked the Minister of Transport what progress she has made in her consultations with manufacturers in promoting safety of motor vehicle design.

Our officials have continuing contact with manufacturers on this matter and good progress has been made recently, particularly with braking systems on goods vehicles, seat belts, and the ability of passenger car structures to provide safer packaging for their occupants by absorbing the impact in a collision.

105.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has to introduce regulations to make motor cars safer.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to his Question on 15th June. The Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations were laid last week and other amending regulations are being circulated in draft form when they are ready.

Abandoned Motor Vehicles (Removal)

72.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement on the consideration she has given to the proposal that local authorities be empowered to ensure more speedy removal of abandoned vehicles from the highway.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Woolwich, West (Mr. Hamling) on 28th April last.

San Francisco Bay And Pittsburgh Systems

asked the Minister of Transport (1) what conclusions she has reached from the first hand study which her Department has made of the San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit District;(2) what conclusions she has reached from the first hand study which her Department has made of the new installations at Pittsburgh.

We are watching the development of these and other systems to assess the possible scope for their use in this country.

Parking Schemes (Payment)

81.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will introduce legislation to enable payment in controlled motor vehicle parking schemes to be made on a weekly or longer periodical basis.

My right hon. Friend is considering a provision on these lines for legislation at the earliest suitable opportunity.

Ministry Contracts

77.

asked the Minister of Transport whether the firm of Ruddock and Meighan Limited of Wealdstone, Middlesex, are still on the approved list of tenderers compiled by her Department; and whether any contracts are at present in existence.

The firm are not now invited to tender for Ministry contracts. Two contracts let by my Department to them have been completed, except for minor details.

Bus Fares

82.

asked the Minister of Transport in view of the public concern over the recent increases in bus fares, if she will refer all new applications by bus companies for increases to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

No. Bus fares are controlled by the independent Traffic Commissioners. Local authorities have rights of appeal to my right hon. Friend if they are not satisfied with the Commissioners' decisions. She and my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State consider that these existing statutory procedures ensure that the national interest is taken into account and that references to the National Board for Prices and Incomes at this stage would not be appropriate.

Pedal Cyclists (Safety Helmets)

88.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will seek powers to require pedal cyclists to wear safety helmets.

A case can be made for pedal cyclists wearing safety helmets but it is not so strong as to justify making it an offence not to wear one.

Motor Vehicles (Exhaust Gases)

91.

asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of the intention of the United States of America to introduce regulations limiting the quantities of noxious substances which may be emitted from engines of all vehicles sold in the United States of America after 1968, including British-made vehicles, she is considering the introduction of similar regulations.

Climatic and other conditions in parts of the United States, particularly California, make the exhaust gases from vehicles extremely obnoxious. Although climatic conditions are different in this country we are, together with other European Countries, considering this problem and the measures, if any, required to deal with it. Our motor manufacturers are working on means to reduce harmful emissions from motor vehicles to meet probable European developments as well as to comply with the American requirements.

98.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will instruct her expert representatives to press for international agreement on measures to eliminate the dangers of air pollution from motor car exhausts when they take part in discussions in the European Working Party on Motor Vehicles in July.

The first need is to decide whether there is a material danger in Europe and, if so, upon its extent and nature, because measures needed where there are special climatic and driving conditions may be unnecessary in this country.If studies now being carried out by the Air Pollution Research Unit and in other places here and abroad show that there is a material danger, we will press for international agreement on methods of dealing with it. The motor industry are already working to reduce potentially dangerous emissions.

British Waterways Board (Pleasure Craft Charges)

94.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the British Waterways Board to decrease their charges for pleasure craft in suitable cases.

Motor Vehicles (Passengers)

95.

asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware that the morning and evening congestion on British roads in and around cities is largely caused by motor cars containing only one motorist going to and from business, and that this congestion could be reduced by such motorists each carrying one or more passengers; and if she will introduce legislation to bring this about.

It would not be practicable to deal with this problem by legislation. The real answer lies in the improvement of public transport.

Electric Vehicles

103.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps she is taking to encourage the use of electric vehicles as a means of reducing noise and air pollution on the roads.

Our officials are continually in touch with developments in the design of electric vehicles. I understand that the prospects for their greater use depend on advances in technology, to improve their present short range and other limitations.

Cab Trade (Operations Investigation)

104.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will set up an independent committee to investigate the operations of the cab trade, and, in particular, to examine the operations of mini-cab operators who are exempt from effective public control, with a view to legislation.

My right hon. Friends the Secretary of State for the Home Department and the Minister of Transport are considering whether this would be desirable.

Motor Vehicles (Advertising On Bodywork)

106.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will seek to make advertising on motor vehicles or the displaying of window stickers or slogan-bearing plaques conditional upon the approval of the police or other authority.

Advertising on the bodywork of motor vehicles is no more distracting than by the roadside. The Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1963 already require the driver to have a clear view through all windows of a motor vehicle. Enforcement is a matter for the police.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will lake steps to ban or regulate the growing practice of dis- playing on motor vehicles window stickers and plaques bearing slogans, as a contribution to greater road safety.

Nationalised Transport Undertakings (Sick Pay Schemes)

109.

asked the Minister of Transport if, in the public interest she will give a general direction to the nationalised transport undertakings to end sex discrimination in their sick pay schemes.

No. The undertakings' attention has been drawn to the reply given by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour on 2nd May, 1965. Their sick pay schemes are, of course, a matter for negotiation between them and the appropriate trade unions.

Traffic Examiners (Salary Scale)

114.

asked the Minister of Transport when she will announce her decision relating to the wages, conditions of employment and pay scale of law enforcement officers working for her Department.

My right hon. Friend hopes to make proposals for a new salary scale for traffic examiners soon.

Driving Licences (Refund)

117.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware that a widow, Mrs. J. D. Till of Pershore, Worcestershire, who recently lost her husband, has been unable to secure refund of sums paid on her husband's driving licence in respect of two years unexpired, 1967–68; why no such refund is available to Mrs. Till; whether she will introduce legislation to make it obligatory for county licensing authorities to refund, pro rata, one year or more of an unexpired driving licence, at five shillings per annum, of a three-year licence; and whether she will make a statement on the Till case.

The hon. Member has given my right hon. Friend details of this sad case. A licensing authority has, however, no power to make refunds on the unexpired portion of surrendered driving licences. The possibility of making such refunds was considered during the Parliamentary proceedings on the Road Traffic Act, 1956 and not adopted because it would have defeated the object of having three-year licences by increasing the work of the licensing authorities.

British Road Services (Freight Charges)

121.

asked the Minister of Transport what directions she has given to the British Road Services in respect of freight charges in the light of increased costs.

None. My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the Transport Holding Company encourages all its road haulage subsidiaries to make all possible improvements in productivity and efficiency, to have a proper knowledge and control of their costs and to maintain their charges at levels appropriate to efficient undertakings.

Underground Railway (Extensions)

124.

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals she has received regarding extensions to underground railways in London.

London Transport have formally submitted proposals for extending the Victoria Line to Brixton and the Holborn-Aldwych line to Waterloo. Other possible developments are under consideration in the London Trasportation Study.

Underground Railway Stations (Change Machines)

125.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will issue a general direction, in the public interest, to the London Transport Board to install change machines in all underground stations.

Motor Vehicles (Roadside Checks)

127.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give details of the roadside testing which has to take place before she will take action to reduce excessive noise made by vehicles on the road; and if she will make a statement.

The testing will consist of roadside checks on passing vehicles. This testing is necessary in order that my right hon. Friend can be satisfied that the proposed method of making checks and the proposed maximum noise levels are enforceable and fair in the various different conditions in which the checks are likely to take place.

Traffic Conditions (Metropolitan Area)

129.

asked the Minister of Transport what survey of traffic conditions was made in the Metropolitan area by her Department on 14th June, 1966; what effect the absence of taxi cabs had upon traffic congestion; and if she will make a statement.

These are matters for the Greater London Council as traffic authority for the area.

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Lighting)

131.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the number of road accidents caused after darkness by stationary or slow-moving heavy vehicles with poor or defective rear lights, she will consider amending the Road Traffic Acts to require all heavy vehicles to be fitted with reflective registration plates.

My right hon. Friend's Working Party on the lighting of vehicles is considering all means of improving the visibility of heavy goods vehicles from the rear. She will consider whether we need to amend the Road Transport Lighting Act in this way when she receives the Working Party's views.

Royal Air Force Driving Test, Class B

132.

asked the Minister of Transport if those people who, while overseas, have passed the Royal Air Force driving test, Class B, on vehicles up to three tons capacity, including cars, qualify for the issue of a civilian driving licence when they return to this country; and if the same rules apply to the Army driving test.

No. To qualify for a British civilian driving licence a person must pass the test prescribed in the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations. This test is conducted overseas only for members of the Army and the Navy.

Recreation Centres (Accessibility)

133.

asked the Minister of Transport what policy she has for making developing centres of recreation, such as water resorts and mountain areas, more accessible to motor traffic.

This is primarily a matter for the local authorities concerned but my right hon. Friend is considering, in conjunction with the National Parks Commission, what advice and guidance we can give.

Canals

134.

asked the Minister of Transport what estimate she has made of the cost of closing down all canals in Great Britain; and what estimate she has made of the cost of developing canals for recreational and sporting purposes.

The best available figures are those given by the British Waterways Board, who control most of the canal and river navigations in Great Britain; only a small part of this system is now of any significance for commercial transport. In their report, "The Facts about the Waterways", the Board have estimated that the inescapable minimum cost of dealing with the rest of the system is of the order of £600,000 per annum at present prices. This would involve reducing the canals to water channels, or eliminating them completely, whichever was found to be cheaper, in each case. Water channels would continue to provide such amenities as angling, and towpath rambling and could be used by light unpowered craft such as canoes. The additional cost of keeping open, for use by powered pleasure craft, those waterways that are available for this purpose at present, is estimated at £340,000 per annum at present prices.

Invalid Carriages (Speed Limit)

137.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is satisfied that the present speed limit of 20 miles per hour on invalid tricycles is still necessary; and if she will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the present speed limit for invalid carriages, as defined in the Road Traffic Act, 1960, is necessary because they are exempt from certain requirements of the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations.

Motor Vehicles (Testing)

asked the Minister of Transport when she proposes to bring in compulsory testing for cars under five years old.

My right hon. Friend proposes very soon to seek Parliament's approval of an Order reducing to three years the age of vehicles required to undergo annual testing.

Dipped Headlights

asked the Minister of Transport when she proposes to bring in regulations requiring motorists in London to use dipped or dimmed headlights instead of relying as at present on side lights only.

Draft regulations to control the fitting of headlamps on motor vehicles have been circulated to interested organisations for comment. My right hon. Friend hopes to make them later this year. The circumstances in which headlamps should be used during darkness are being considered by her Working Party on vehicle lighting.

Bus Operators (Selective Employment Tax)

asked the Minister of Transport what consultations she has had about the likely effect of the payroll tax on rural bus services; and what representations have been made to her.

We have had no representations on this point. The Selective Employment Payments Bill provides for bus operators to have this tax refunded.

London Transport Board (Deficit)

asked the Minister of Transport what steps she proposes to take to exercise her powers under the Transport Finance Act 1966 to make grants to the London Transport Board in respect of deficits arising on the Board's revenue account.

A Summer Supplementary Estimate seeking provision for payments to the Board in Exchequer Financial Year 1966–67 will be presented to the House soon. I propose to make on 1st July a first payment of about £2 million in respect of deficit accrued since the 1st January, 1966. This will be financed from the Civil Contingencies Fund pending the availability of Supply.Grants in respect of revenue deficits for each of the years 1967 and 1968 will be paid under normal Supply procedures.In all cases, payments will be made to the Board only after compliance with procedure similar to those which have applied to deficit grant payments to the Railways Board and Waterways Board since 1963.

Lord Hinton's Studies

asked the Minister of Transport whether the Government will report to Parliament any of the conclusions of Lord Hinton's studies in her Department.

The Government have always made it plain that Lord Hinton's advice would not be made public. In developing her policies my right hon. Friend has taken account of his studies.

70 Mph Speed Limit

asked the Minister of Transport what reports she has received on the increase in bunching on motorways and main roads as a result of the 70 miles per hour speed limit.

My right hon. Friend has received no reports of bunching on ordinary main roads. The motorways sub-committee of Chief Constables expressed the view that during the first four months of this year, bunching increased during peak traffic hours on some parts of M1 and M6. But this matter is difficult to assess objectively and is still being studied.

State Motor Insurance Scheme

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will seek to establish a State motor insurance scheme.

The establishment of a State motor insurance scheme would have far reaching implications. A careful study of the relative costs and benefits would be needed. My right hon. Friend has no such proposal in mind at present.

Road Haulage Association (Increased Rates)

asked the Minister of Transport what action she intends to take following the receipt by her of a memorandum from the National Board for Prices and Incomes concerning the intention of the Road Haulage Association to recommend a general increase in road haulage rates.

My right hon. Friend has seen representatives of the Association and made it clear to them that the Government deplore their recommendation.

Railways

Deficit

16.

asked the Minister of Transport how much of the railway deficit anticipated for 1966 is accounted for by rail closure proposals to which consent has been refused since 15th October, 1964.

Timetables

51.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the Railways Board not to alter the timing of services so that trains formerly timed to connect with other services no longer make such connections.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Carlisle (Mr. Ron Lewis) on 23rd May, 1966.

Railway Services (Withdrawal)

48.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will seek to amend the Transport Act, 1962, to prevent the British Railways Board from being able to cut off freight services and therefore all future for particular railway lines without recourse to Parliament.

No. As my right hon. Friend announced in the House on 15th June, the withdrawal of railway services does not prejudice the safeguarding of a route against future requirements.

Liner Trains

53.

asked the Minister of Transport how far she estimates that the liner train service will increase or reduce the railway deficit during the current year.

It would not be in the Board's commercial interest to give this information.

asked the Minister of Transport when private road hauliers will be able to obtain open access to liner train terminals.

asked the Minister of Transport when there will be free acess to liner train terminals.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor) today.

asked the Minister of Transport what return on capital will be required before further investment is made in liner trains.

My right hon. Friend would normally expect to judge proposals for such further investment against the criterion of an 8 per cent. financial return before interest.

Scotland

58.

asked the Minister of Transport how many route miles of railway she intends to retain in Scotland; and how this figure compares with that recommended in the 1961 Beeching Report.

The future of the railway network as a whole will depend on the results of the current review of transport policy to be announced in my right hon. Friend's forthcoming White Paper.

Grimsby-Louth-Peterborough Line (Closure)

60.

asked the Minister of Transport to what extent she will take into consideration, in giving her decision on the proposed closure of the Grimsby-Louth-Peterborough line, the annual loss on the line, the saving if passenger services were discontinued and the social consequences in this sparsely populated, food-producing area; and if she will make a statement.

The Railways Board has revised its proposals for closing passenger services in East Lincolnshire and will be announcing these soon. The East Midland Transport Users Consultative Committee will consider any fresh representations users may wish to make before reporting to my right hon. Friend on hardship. She will also be consulting the regional Economic Planning Councils. In considering her decision she will be taking full account of all the factors mentioned by the hon. Member.

British Railways Board

62.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the British Railways Board to second its personnel for a tour in overseas countries of the Commonwealth and to ensure that those volunteering do not lose promotion in their home-based jobs.

No. British Railways are aware of the Government's policies on service abroad and co-operate to the fullest possible extent where they can reasonably do so.

79.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will issue a general direction, in the public interest, to the British Railways Board not to place contracts with firms which refuse to recognise or negotiate with trade unions.

No. The Railways Board tells us it already includes in all its contracts a "Fair Wages" Clause which deals with wages, conditions and trade unions. I am sure the Chairman of the Board would be ready to help my hon. Friend with any specific cases if they were put to him.

Rolling Stock

68.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the British Railways Board requiring them to improve the standards of the rolling stock for passengers.

No. The Board is improving its present coaching stock, and new stock under construction will provide greatly increased passenger amenities.

National Union Of Railwaymen (Minister's Meeting)

78.

asked the Minister of Transport what further consultations she has had with the National Union of Railwaymen to secure their agreement on unrestricted access of private road hauliers to liner train terminals.

My right hon. Friend has been in frequent touch with representatives of the Railwaymen's Unions about various matters including freight-liner services; she last met the full Executive Council of the N.U.R. on 10th May.

Freight Charges (Increase)

123.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will refer the 40 per cent. increase in certain rail freight charges between Aberdeenshire and London, which has taken place since January, to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

No. I understand from the Railways Board that these specially negotiated charges apply to a limited group of customers and that, even at the new rate, they are still below normal.

Station Closures (South Yorkshire)

130.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will publish the names of the railway stations that have been closed in South Yorkshire during each of the past four years; and how many stations are scheduled to be closed during the next four years.

The following is the information:

A. STATIONS CLOSED TO PASSENGER SERVICES WITH THE CONSENT OF THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT SINCE THE TRANSPORT ACT 1962 CAME INTO FORCE.
StationDate of closure
Spofforth, Wetherby, Collingham Bridge, Bardsey, Thorner, Scholes, Penda's Way, Tadcaster, Newton Kyme, Thorp Arch, Barlow, Drax, Airmyn, Pudsey (Low Town), Pudsey (Greenside), Dewsbury (Central), Ossett, Sutton-on-Hull, Swine, Ellerby, Whitedale, Sigglesthorne, Hornsea Bridge, Hornsea Town, Botanic Gardens, Stepney, Wilmington, Southcoates, Marfleet, Hedan, Ryehill and Burstwick, Keyingham, Ottringham, Patrington, Withernsea, Ardsley, Stanley.1964
Apperley Bridge, Armley (Canal Road), Arthington, Calverley and Rodley, Cononley Frizinghall, Kildwick and Crosshills, Kirkstall, Manningham, Newlay, Otley, Pool-in-Wharfedale, Saltaire, Steeton and Silsdon, Embsay, Bolton Abbey, Addingham, Lightcliffe, Low Moor, Cleckheaton, Liversedge, Heckmondwike, Nor-thorpe, Haigh, Crigglestone, Bolton Percy, Ferrybridge, Sherburn in Elmet, Earswick, Stamford Bridge, Pocklington, Londesborough, Market Weighton, Kipling Cotes.1965
B. STATIONS WHERE CONSENT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO CLOSURE BUT NOT YET PUT INTO EFFECT.
StationDate of consent
Rotherham Central, Berry Brow, Armley Moor, Laisterdyke, Bramley1966
C. OTHER STATIONS WHICH THE RAILWAYS BOARD HAVE SO FAR PROPOSED FOR CLOSURE BUT WHERE A DECISION HAS NOT YET BEEN GIVEN
Station
Castleford (Cutsyke), Knottingley, Rawcliffe, Snaith, Hensall, Whiteley Bridge, Pontefract (Tanshelf), Featherstone, Ben Rhydding, Burley-in-Wharfedale, Guiseley, Ilkley, Menston, Fitzwilliam, Hemsorth, Carcroft and Adwick-le-Street, Woodlesford, Altofts and Whitwood, Royston and Notton, Cudworth, Wath North, Swinton Town, Kiln-hurst West, Parkgate and Rawmarsh, Millhouses, Heeley, Dore and Tot-ley, Leeds Central, Hemingborough, Wressle, Kiveton Park, Shireoaks, Barnby Dun, Pontefract (Monkhill).
The Minister has no information about stations closed or proposed to be closed to freight services.

Fares, Scottish Region (Increases)

115.

asked the Minister of Transport, if she will refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes the recent increases in rail fares, which in some cases are as much as 50 per cent. and 30 per cent.; and if she will make a statement.

These increases in certain rail fares in the Scottish Region of the Railways Board included the raising of some sub-standard weekly season ticket rates in the Glasgow area by from 10 per cent. to 50 per cent. to bring them up to the level in force elsewhere. At the same time, however, 5-day season tickets were introduced at lower prices than the old sub-standard weekly ones. My right hon. Friend sees no case here for a reference to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

Advertising

126.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will now issue a general direction to British Railways, in the public interest, to refrain from indecent advertising, evidence of which has been supplied by the hon. Member for Coatbridge and Airdrie; and if she will make a statement.

Advertising in trains operated by the nationalised transport undertakings is a matter for the Board concerned.

Exeter-Okehampton And Exeter- Barnstaple Lines (Passenger Services)

asked the Minister of Transport what representations she has had from the Western Region of the Railways Board to close the Exeter to Okehampton line and the Exeter to Barnstaple line; and if she will make a statement.

The passenger services on these lines were listed for modification in the Railways Board's Reshaping Report. In March last year my right hon. Friend's predecessor, my right hon. Friend the Member for Hamilton, refused a request from the Board to allow publication of proposals for the complete withdrawal of these services. The Board has recently notified us of its intention to give advance notice under Section 54 of the Transport Act, 1962, of their plans now to modify the services between Exeter and Barnstaple by the closure of intermediate stations. If it does so and later asks for my right hon. Friend's permission to publish a formal proposal under Section 56 of the Act she will consider whether there are any planning implications which would make the proposal obviously unacceptable from the outset. In doing so she will have the benefit of the views of the Economic Planning Council for the South West.

Deficit

asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated deficit of British Railways in 1966; and whether she will make a further statement on the figure she has given to the House.

The Vote Estimate was based on a deficit of £115 million. Since it was prepared improvements in wages and working conditions have increased costs, and gross receipts are less than expected. It is too early to give a firm estimate of the probable deficit for the year, but it may well be as much as £120 million.

Woolwich-Erith Marsh Area (Investment)

asked the Minister of Transport if she is satisfied that the proposals submitted to her for capital sanction by British Railways to deal with the extra requirements for public transport that will result from the development of the Woolwich/Erith marsh area for the housing of 60,000 people are adequate; and if she will make a statement.

The Board has not yet submitted proposals for investment specifically related to this development. But my right hon. Friend is satisfied that the machinery which has been devised to bring together all concerned with this scheme, is well suited to deal with its consequences for public transport.

Roads

Humber Bridge

55.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement about the proposed Humber Bridge.

On 15th June my right hon. Friend met representatives of the Humber Bridge Board, the East Riding County Council and other local authorities in Humberside. They asked her to modify the announced proposals for a trunk road network east of the Great North Road to Hull and Humberside so as to include the Humber Bridge. The detailed and technical arguments in support of that request are being examined by her officials in consultation with the bodies concerned. When that is complete she will make a statement.

M6 (Diversion)

65.

asked the Minister of Transport why abnormal loads are being directed through the centre of Lancaster rather than along the M6 motorway; what is the definition of an abnormal load for this purpose; and for how long the diversion is likely to continue.

The diversion is necessary to maintain a reasonable flow of traffic on the Lancaster by-pass motorway while the third lanes are being built. The loads in question are those over nine feet six inches wide, or fifty feet long or seventy-five tons. The diversion is likely to continue until December, 1966.

Pedestrian Subways And Bridges

67.

asked the Minister of Transport what instructions or guidance are currently being given by her Department to local authorities to encourage the construction of more pedestrian subways and bridges to facilitate safe road crossing in built-up areas and to discourage the making of further pedestrian crossings.

The manual "Roads in Urban Areas", which has recently been circulated to local authorities, recommends the segregation of motor vehicles from pedestrians in urban areas where practicable and gives advice on the design of facilities for this purpose. In addition, the advice of my right hon. Friend's Divisional Road Engineers is always available to local authorities.

Urban Motorway, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne (Grant)

71.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will increase the grant on the urban motorway of Newcastle-upon-Tyne from 75 per cent. to 95 per cent., in view of the fact that the present system of grants was designed on a different pattern of road requirements.

Land And Property (Advance Acquisition Grant)

73.

asked the Minister of Transport if, where a local authority, by acquiring properties for highway purposes in advance of a comprehensive development authority or compulsory purchase order at advantageous prices and by agreement, thereby reducing compensation payments for disturbance, reduces the ultimate expenditure of her Department, she will pay the grant in advance on such acquisitions.

My right hon. Friend is prepared to pay grant towards the cost of advance acquisition of land and property needed for classified road schemes as soon as they are included in the approved programme.

Chester Road-Pyrles Lane Junction (Stop Sign)

76.

asked the Minister of Transport why she refused the Chigwell Urban District Council's application for a stop sign to replace the give way sign at the junction of Pyrles Lane, Chester Lane and Hillyfields, Loughton.

On the evidence we have, visibility at the junction of Chester Road and Pyrles Lane is not so restricted as to justify a "stop" sign. However, we are making further inquiries about the accidents here and will write to the hon. Member.

Accidents, Greater London (Ascot Race Meeting)

80.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the number of road accidents reported in the Greater London area on Tuesday, 14th June, the first day of the June, 1966, Ascot race meeting; and what was the number of road accidents reported in the same area for the equivalent day in 1965 and in 1964.

This information could be obtained only by a special and lengthy analysis. If the hon. and gallant Member has a particular point in mind perhaps he would write to me.

River Torridge Bridge

83.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will now announce her plans for safeguarding the free flow of all traffic over the River Torridge.

As soon as the road signs are ready, my right hon. Friend proposes to make an Order restricting waiting on sections of the A39 trunk road in Bideford. The widening of the carriageway on the bridge would only marginally improve traffic flow, and the expensive reconstruction work would not be justified by the small benefit.

84.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans her Department has made for a new bridge over the River Torridge; and if she will make a statement.

A new bridge would no doubt be required as part of a by-pass of the trunk road at Bideford. We are unable to forecast when such a by-pass would be built.

Dual Carriageways (Closure Of Central Reservations)

85.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give adequate notice to residents and businesses affected by any plan to close gaps in the central reservations of dual carriageways.

Arrangements axe being made so that where possible those directly affected will be informed in advance of such closures on trunk roads.

High Wycombe By-Pass

87.

asked the Minister of Transport what is now the estimated date of completion of the first eight miles of the High Wycombe by-pass; and when it will be open to traffic.

My right hon. Friend cannot give definite dates now. There were delays due to bad weather in 1965 and an extension of the contract time is being considered.

Highways Act, 1959 (Straying Horses)

92.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will introduce legislation to amend Section 135 of the Highways Act, 1959, to increase the penalty which may be imposed upon the owner of a straying horse.

Legislation to amend this penalty, with other small fines, is being considered by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Home Affairs.

A25 (Improvement)

93.

asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made in modernising the A25 trunk road in the past 12 months; and what steps are planned in the coming 12 months.

During the financial year 1965–66 improvement schemes costing about £50,000 were put in hand by the responsible highway authorities. Their plans for 1966–67 includes schemes costing over £350,000.

Humberside Report

96.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will now publish the Humberside Report prepared by consulting engineers.

No. But copies have been made available confidentially to the highway authorities concerned.

Urban Road Schemes

97.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the total value of urban road schemes on which forward planning and preparation could start in the near future which have been submitted by local authorities following the request by her Department.

A19

99.

asked the Minister of Transport how many men are employed in the reconstruction of the A19 road in County Durham; and when the road will be completed.

The number of men employed on actual construction work, on the two stages of the improvement of the A19 in County Durham now being carried out, is at present about 130. It is estimated that the general improvement of the road will be completed by 1970–71.

Easington Village, Durham (Traffic Signals)

100.

asked the Minister of Transport what plan is in preparation for the reconstruction of the open space at Easington Village, County Durham, where seven roads converge; and whether, as an interim measure, she will instruct the highway authority to provide traffic lights at a suitable spot.

Trunk road traffic will be removed from the centre of the village by the A19 by-pass now being prepared.Because of the complexity of the junction, we do not consider that traffic signals would be appropriate as an interim measure.

Flyover Construction (Temporary Bridges)

102.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, during the construction of flyovers in places like Ferrybridge, she will construct temporary bridges to carry light traffic.

Trunk Roads (Pedestrian Crossings)

107.

asked the Minister of Transport what factors are taken into account in deciding whether to approve the installation of pedestrian crossings on trunk roads; and if she will give weight in these cases to the number of pedestrians crossing per vehicle passing, on the ground that a small number of pedestrians crossing a busy road may be as dangerous as a large number crossing a less busy road.

The present policy is that zebra crossings should be in general use by vehicles and pedestrians throughout the day. But other factors have also to be taken into consideration such as width of road, the existence of central refuges, the proximity of other crossings and the attraction of the site as a natural crossing point.

A45 (Factory Warning Signs)

108.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will authorise the erection of factory entrance warning signs on the A45 trunk road at the approaches to Marshalls Airport and Engineering Works, Cambridge, where an apprentice was recently killed.

We very much regret this accident, but my right hon. Friend shares the view of the County Surveyor and the police that special signs are unnecessary since visibility along the road is good and the presence of the works and the airfield is obvious to drivers.

River Ouse Bridge (Traffic Delay)

111.

asked the Minister of Transport what delays occurred to traffic approaching King's Lynn due to obstruction of the cut bridge over the River Ouse during Whit weekend and Tuesday 31st May; and whether such incidents will be taken into account in deciding the date for construction of a new bridge.

Traffic was delayed for 1½ hours on 28th May when a lorry struck a bridge upright. The breakdown of a tractor on the bridge on 31st May delayed traffic for ½ hour. All relevant information on traffic congestion and delays is taken into account when schemes are selected for the programme.

M1

112.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is satisfied that the M1 south of Coventry will be able to carry satisfactorily the additional load of traffic which it will receive when the northern extension into Yorkshire is completed; and if she will make a statement.

113.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware that complete blockages of traffic are still occurring on the north and south-bound carriageways of the M1; and if she will give fresh instructions that repairs be carried out with better regard for an even flow of traffic.

Everything possible is done to keep traffic moving freely. When necessary, my right hon. Friend will continue to give fresh instructions to her Agent Authorities, but day to day control must be left to those on the spot.Recent blockages have resulted from incidents beyond our control—a cloudburst and the spilling of a lorry load of steel.

Toll Roads

120.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will take steps to make the main motorways into toll roads in order to get them constructed more quickly than can be done under the present system.

135.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will give an assurance that it is not her policy to impose tolls on any motorways in this country.

We have no plans to impose tolls on motorways save in special circumstances such as the Severn Bridge.

A38 (Traffic Controls)

122.

asked the Minister of Transport what additional traffic controls will be required on the Bridgwater to Taunton section of the A38 now that the Bridgwater rail freight depot is closed.

It is unlikely that road traffic will increase by more than 1 per cent. No special measures are called for.

Panda Crossing (Removal)

136.

asked the Minister of Transport, when the panda crossing which has been removed from Elmers End Road, Beckenham, will be replaced by a pedestrian crossing.

My right hon. Friend has told the Greater London Council and the police that, if they and the Borough Council agree, consent will be given to the installation of pedestrian control signals at this site.

Motorways (Amber Lights)

asked the Minister of Transport (1) what results have been obtained from experiments with the amber warning lights on motorways; and how these compare with the results on the M.5 motorway;(2) what plans are being made to produce a more permanent and satisfactory remote-controlled warning light system for motorways.

The temporary amber flashing warning lights and the M5 warnings signs have both helped to reduce speeds at hazards on motorways. The M5 signs are more comprehensive than the temporary amber lights and can indicate three different messages—"Accident" "Skid risk" and "Fog", accompanied by "Slow". My right hon. Friend is considering the provision of a permanent signalling system for all motorways and will announce her decision as soon as she can.

A62 (Accidents)

asked the Minister of Transport how many road accidents have been reported during 1966 on the A62 at Saddleworth between the Star Inn and Scouthead Garage; and what action she is taking to reduce the dangers of this stretch of road.

Up to 31st May there have been 13 road accidents. My right hon. Friend has recently authorised the West Riding County Council, to provide "slow" markings on the carriageway and new Worboys type "Bend" signs at the bend near the Scouthead Garage, where most of the accidents happened. She will be keeping the effectiveness of these improvements under review.

Smeed Panel (Findings)

asked the Minister of Transport what action the Government proposes on the Smeed Report on road pricing.

My right hon. Friend is taking the findings of the Smeed Panel into account in considering ways of dealing with the problem of traffic congestion in towns.

A30 (Dual Carriageway)

asked the Minister of Transport how many miles of the A30 road have been converted to dual carriageway in the last year; and what has been the total expenditure on major improvements to this road.

1· 19 miles. Schemes costing about £¾ million were completed last year, and other schemes estimated at £1½ million are in progress.

Basingstoke-Dorset Motorway

asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made in planning the extension of the Basingstoke motorway to Dorset.

What will be done to improve this route, and when, depends upon the outcome of my right hon. Friend's plans for the development of the inter-urban road system as a whole in the 1970s.

A38

asked the Minister of Transport what she estimates will be the impact on the A38 traffic conditions between Bridgwater and Taunton when freight from the now closed Bridgwater rail freight depot is placed upon the road.

70 Mph Speed Limit

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now impose a minimum speed limit on all motorways and trunk roads to run with the extension of the 70 miles per hour experimental maximum speed limit.

No. My right hon. Friend recently considered this, but decided that it would be impracticable to introduce it in current traffic conditions.

Ports

Portbury Dock Scheme

86.

asked the Minister of Transport when a decision on the Port-bury Dock Scheme will be made; and if she will make a statement.

89.

asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of concern over the implementation of the Portbury Dock Scheme, she will announce a decision or give an indication when a decision will be made.

90.

asked the Minister of Transport if she is now able to approve the Portbury Dock Scheme.

118.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now announce her decision upon the Portbury Dock Scheme.

128.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now authorise the start of the Portbury Dock Scheme.

The further studies announced in Answers given on 4th May, are nearing completion. The results will then be considered by the Government and their decision announced as soon as possible.

119.

asked the Minister of Transport what new aspects of port organisation are now being studied by the National Ports Council in exploring alternatives to the Portbury Scheme.

Mersey Docks And Harbour Board (Charges)

116.

asked the Minister of Transport what specific considerations she had in mind before authorising increases in the master porterage charges of the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board; and what arrangements she made for taking into account the interests of the consumer.

The introduction of a new wages bonus scheme is designed to increase productivity and reduce delays to cargo whilst stimulating needed recruitment of dock workers at Liverpool. The proposed new charges were published, and the right of objection advertised; no objections were received.

Tankers (Over 100,000 Tons)

asked the Minister of Transport how many ports in the United Kingdom are capable of handling tankers of over 100,000 tons.

Ministry Of Aviation

Commercial Pilots (Licence Examination)

138.

asked the Minister of Aviation in what subjects in the commercial pilots' licence examination qualified pilots' service in the Fleet Air Arm and the Royal Air Force is taken into account, as is done in other countries.

Service pilots with the required experience are given exemption from some of the flight tests, namely, cross country, basic handling, night flying and part of the instrument rating test. In addition pilots with sufficient experience on types of aircraft such as the Britannia, which have both civil and military versions, are allowed to take the specific type rating test with their Flight or Squadron Commander instead of taking the corresponding civil flight test. Exemption from part of the written examination is given to Service pilots who have graduated with a distinguished pass from the Staff Navigator course and who apply for the civil licence within twelve months.

Black Knight And Black Arrow Projects

asked the Minister of Aviation whether a decision has been reached on the Black Knight and Black Arrow projects; what progress has been made with these; and if he will make a statement.

The research programme employing the Black Knight rocket came to an end with the last firing in November, 1965, but a decision whether to complete development of the Black Arrow satellite launcher has not yet been taken. Work in industry on Black Arrow is continuing and technical progress is satisfactory. The decision on Black Arrow must be related to the wider question of our space programme as a whole.

Post Office

Staff (Overseas Tours)

140.

asked the Postmaster-General what encouragement he gives to his staff for a tour in overseas countries of the Commonwealth; and whether those volunteering to go will lose or gain promotion in their home-based jobs.

Opportunities for tours overseas are advertised, or an individual approach is made to staff. There are 466 Post Office staff currently overseas. They do not lose by this, and when they are duly considered for promotion in their home-based jobs, their overseas experience is taken into consideration.

Sub-Post Offices (Security Precautions)

142.

asked the Postmaster-General what is the general level of assistance given to sub-post offices to help the proprietor protect from thieves the mail and money which are entrusted to his care; whether he is satisfied that it is adequate; and if he will make a statement.

Sub-postmasters are employed on an agency basis and are responsible for their own security precautions. In crime-prone areas we provide free bandit alarms and certain anti-burglar devices at many sub-post offices, as well as giving all sub-postmasters advice designed to promote high standards of security.While thefts continue, one can never be wholly satisfied with security arrangements. Their adequacy to meet new crime trends is kept under constant review, and we intend to continue to improve them.

Special Stamp (Edinburgh)

asked the Postmaster-General (1) whether he will issue a special postage stamp in 1967 to commemorate the bicentenary of the founding of the new town of Edinburgh, in view of its merit as a world-famous example of town planning;(2) whether he will issue a special commemorative postage stamp in 1967 to mark the coming of age of Edinburgh's International Festival of Music and Drama, and thereby give public recognition to the contribution which Edinburgh has made to the cultural wealth of the nation.

I am grateful for these suggestions and will bear them in mind when choosing the subjects for my 1967 stamp programme.

Post Office Tower (Charges)

asked the Postmaster-General if he is aware that the cost of ascending the new Post Office Tower and dining in the restaurant excludes the bulk of the populace from enjoying these facilities; and what steps he proposes to take to end this situation.

The lift charges are not excessive.Restaurant charges are for the proprietors, to whom the premises were leased by the previous administration.

Telephone Service

House Of Commons

141.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will take steps to improve the telephone service in the House of Commons.

An extension of the switchboard has now been completed and this should lead to an improvement in the service given to hon. Members.

Brighton

143.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that 12 months ago half of Brighton telephone subscribers were switched to subscriber trunk dialling and that the remainder were to obtain it in 12 months; and why the waiting subscribers have now been told that equipment will not be available for at least three more years.

The plans for bringing S.T.D. to the nine exchanges serving the Brighton locality have not been changed. About half the subscribers were given the facility in September, 1964, and a further thousand in May, 1965. Provision for the remainder depends on the replacement of some obsolete exchanges in the period up to 1970.

144.

asked the Postmaster-General why it took Brighton telephone subscribers only 15 minutes on average to contact Western Europe before the switch over to subscriber trunk dial- ling but now takes one and a half hours for those not on subscribed trunk dialling.

Brighton subscribers all receive the same attention on calls to Europe regardless of whether or not they have S.T.D. facilities. Telephone service with most Western European countries is good; some delays are now occurring due to heavy seasonal pressure and staff shortage but the service today is not inferior to that given two years ago as suggested by the hon. Member.

Emergency Calls (South Humberside)

asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the fact that the Immingham telephone lines to Grimsby-Cleethorpes are usually overloaded during normal working hours, and the South Humberside industrial firms use vast quantities of highly flammable and toxic materials, if he will change the prefix number 9 to another, and so make the emergency call 999 more readily available in case of explosion or fires in these industrial installations; and if he will make a statement.

To reserve some of the lines for emergency calls in the manner suggested would have caused more overloading of the lines remaining for ordinary calls and I could not adopt the suggestion. However, more lines are now being added so that the overloading will be removed during the next few weeks.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Tortoises (Disease)

145.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that some tortoises are carriers of disease; and if he will seek to ban the genera] import of these creatures.

After consultation with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health, I am not aware of any evidence that tortoises suffer from any disease significant to human or animal health other than salmonellosis, or that they might transmit this infection to an extent justifying a ban on their importation.

New Potatoes, East Anglia (Yields)

146.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what yields have been reported for the first liftings of new potatoes in East Anglia this year compared with 1965.

The Potato Marketing Board have reported estimated daily yields in East Anglia ranging between 3 and 7 tons per acre for the period 10th to 22nd June, 1966. For the corresponding period in 1965 the Board reported estimated daily yields for Essex ranging between 3 and 6 tons per acre but no figures were reported for other parts of East Anglia.

Rothwell Perdix Wheat (Disease)

147.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has regarding the extent and nature of disease damage to crops of Rothwell Perdix wheat and other varieties similarly affected; and whether he will make a statement.

Evidence of a heavier incidence than usual of yellow rust disease began appearing in crops of Rothwell Perdix towards the end of May. No precise figures are available but the disease appears to be more prevalent in the East, the Midlands and the South, and relatively less so in other parts of the country. Its incidence varies from district to district. Yellow rust in other winter wheat varieties is not above its normal low level. The disease is caused by a fungus, variants of which may attack hitherto resistant varieties. I am looking most carefully into the possible causes of this outbreak and am keeping a close watch on the situation. It is much too early to assess the significance of this outbreak so far as the grain yield of the country as a whole is concerned.

Apple And Pear Development Council (Appointments)

148.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he will state the name of the chairman and other members of the Apple and Pear Development Council.

I have it in mind to make these appointments and establish the Council in the autumn, subject to Parliamentary approval of the necessary Order.

Warfarin-Resistant Rats, Welsh Border

149.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will now take action to try to destroy the warfarin-resistant rats now contained within an area of about 400 square miles on both sides of the Welsh border in Montgomeryshire and Salop.

No. This is impracticable. Research is being done to find an effective alternative to warfarin and at the same time we are actively engaged in a holding operation which will slow down the rate of spread of resistant rats from the affected area.

150.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will grant special financial assistance to the Montgomeryshire Rabbit Clearance Society Limited to help tackle the work of clearing farms in their area of warfarin-resistant rats on the same lines as the grants allocated in Norfolk to combat coypu.

As I have explained to the hon. and learned Member, warfarin-resistant rats present quite different problems from coypu and I do not see any justification in present circumstances for the action he proposes.

Drainage And Water Supplies (Open Competition Entrants)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the outcome of the negotiations between his Department and the Institution of Professional Civil Servants on the question of the pay cuts operating upon 1962 Open Competition entrants for Drainage and Water Supplies; and if he is aware that failure to deal with this question is causing continued anxiety.

My right hon. Friend is still considering this and I will write to the hon. Member as soon as he has reached a conclusion.

Scotland

Road Improvement Schemes

151.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether it is now the policy of the Government to confine road improvement schemes of the type which may be promoted under the Congested Districts (Scotland) Act, 1897 and the Agriculture (Improvement of Roads) Act, 1955 to crofting townships; and whether he will extend these schemes to include roads leading to farms which would rate as crofts were they not owner-occupied.

Grants are given for the economic benefit of communities comprising crofts or holdings comparable to crofts, whether owner-occupied or not, in conformity with the recommendation of the Taylor Commission on Crofting Conditions.

North Of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board (North Uist Supply)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much of the North Uist area, with the neighbouring island of Berneray, is to be served by the supply scheme of the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board; what areas will be excluded; and when the Board proposes to begin work on this scheme.

This is a matter for the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board to decide, but I understand that the scheme covers all properties on the islands of Grimsay, North Uist, Bale-share, and Berneray with the exception of the Hoebeg/Loch Portain district of North Uist and 11 other premises on the Island. In these cases the cost to connect is considered by the Board to be excessive in relation to the average cost of the scheme as a whole.As regards progress, I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend on 3rd March.

Vehicle Ferry Service (North Uist-Isle Of Berneray)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made towards provision of a vehicle ferry service between North Uist and the Isle of Berneray.

Inverness County Council has estimated that the pier works required for such a service would cost about £45,000. I understand that the proposal is being further studied by the Highland Transport Board, and I shall consider it in the light of the Board's advice.

General Election (Postal Votes And Spoiled Ballot Papers)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) how many postal votes were cast in each constituency in the recent General Election;(2) how many spoiled ballot papers there were in each constituency in the recent General Election.

This information is contained in the statement which I circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT of 23rd June in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, Pollok.

Ministry Of Defence

Meteorological Recording Stations (Private Operators)

152.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many meteorological recording stations from which he obtains data are operated by private individuals or organisations in Scotland, England and Wales, respectively; and what is the proportion of these stations in relation to those operated by the Air Ministry or other public bodies.

Private stations supplying data to the Meteorological Office number 428 in Scotland, 1,020 in England and 64 in Wales. Public bodies operate about three times as many.

153.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he estimates is the cost to the private individuals or organisations from which he obtains data of operating a meteorological recording station; and what assistance he gives financially and in other ways.

I do not have cost information about private stations. Financial assistance from my Department is normally limited to the payment of communication costs for observations received and also the payment of fees for synoptic observations for weather forecasting purposes. In addition, we lend private observers instruments without charge where necessary, and in exceptional circumstances grants not exceedings £20 may be made to private rainfall and climatological stations supplying data.

Her Majesty's Dockyard, Portsmouth

154.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many civilian employees have left Her Majesty's Dockyard, Portsmouth, during the past year for employment elsewhere; from which categories these employees have mainly come; and how their dockyard take-home pay compared with that of people doing similar work in civilian firms in the Portsmouth area.

About, 1,000, including about 100 non-industrial, about 350 craftsmen and about 550 non-craft grades. We have no figures for average earnings within the Portsmouth area outside the dockyard.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will conduct a survey to discover what equipment and manpower in Her Majesty's Dockyard, Portsmouth, could be suitably utilised for the production of capital equipment for export or for overseas aid projects; and what equipment and manpower could be utilised for projects in Great Britain such as industrialised building techniques.

The machine tools and plant in Portsmouth Dockyard are designed primarily for ship repair work, and to undertake the sort of work suggested would call for extensive capital re-equipment. In view of the present and prospective work load of the Dockyard on naval account, this would not be justified.

Polaris Submarine Programme

155.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in view of the need for reducing national expenditure and the difficult financial situation, he will postpone the Polaris submarine programme.

Armaments (Supplies To Australia)

156.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the total value and the general nature of any armaments supplied to Australia by the United Kingdom in the last two years.

It is contrary to normal practice to disclose information concerning arms supplied to other countries.

Variable Geometry Aircraft

157.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement of the present position reached with regard to the variable geometry aircraft; and when the next stage of the project is likely to be launched.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Govan (Mr. Rankin) on 22nd June. I hope that by the autumn we and the French Government will have completed our current assessments and be able to move forward with assurance.

Defence Sales

158.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what instructions he has given to the Arms Salesman that before he sells arms to any country these arms shall not be resold to the United States of America for use in Vietnam.

The Head of Defence Sales has been fully informed of Her Majesty's Government's policy regarding the supply of arms to other countries.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he proposes to require that the Government Arms Salesman shall ensure that no weapons sold to Portugal will be for use in Angola or Mozambique.

The Head of Defence Sales has been informed of Her Majesty's Government's policy regarding the supply of arms to Portugal as stated to the right hon. Member for Orkney and Shetland on 13th June, 1966, by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he proposes to require that the Government Arms Salesman shall ensure that no weapons sold to India will be for use against the Nagas.

No. The Naga issue is entirely an internal matter for the Indian Government.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent the Arms Salesman will be expected to increase the sale of arms to Ireland.

To the extent that the Irish Republic decides to increase its arms imports.

Hm Dockyards (Rates Of Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many different basic rates of remuneration exist in Her Majesty's dockyards for men employed on exactly similar work.

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what changes in the military disposition of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation forces are to be made as the result of the policy of the French Government.

These matters are under discussion with our Allies: it is too early to make a statement yet.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what use the infrastructure provisions in France will be put; and what compensation Her Majesty's Government will receive on the basis of the infrastructure remaining in France.

We do not yet know to what extent N.A.T.O. will be able to continue to make use of infrastructure facilities in France. At the recent Ministerial meeting in Brussels it was agreed that French participation in infrastructure was one of the questions to be discussed by the Permanent Council. It would be premature at this stage to talk about compensation.

Head Of Defence Sales (Salary)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence by what criterion he fixed the salary payable to the Arms Salesman.

Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish a table showing the percentage of national income spent on defence of each of the United Kingdom's allies and Commonwealth partners.

The latest figures available cover N.A.T.O. for the calendar year 1964. They are:

Percentage of GNP
Belgium3·6
Canada4·5
Denmark3·3
France6·7
Federal Republic of Germany5·5
Greece4·3
Italy4·1
Luxembourg1·7
Netherlands4·8
Norway3·9
Portugal7·4
Turkey5·7
United States8·8
For Commonwealth countries other than Canada, the only figures available are for the financial year 1963–64, namely about 3· 4 per cent. for Australia and 2 per cent. for New Zealand, but current defence expenditure in both countries is now considerably higher.

Home Department

Maintenance Orders

159.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many maintenance orders were made against deserting husbands in each of the last five years; and how many orders were made for wilful neglect to maintain.

The numbers of matrimonial orders made by magistrates courts during the years 1960–1964 (the last year for which figures are available) were as follows:—

196016,539
196114,621
196215,497
196315,516
196415,764
A very small number of these orders may not have contained provision for the payment of maintenance.There is no information available about the grounds on which these orders were made.

Approved School (Parkwood Site)

160.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether any consideration has been given to the use of the Parkwood site at Swanley, Kent, which is the property of the Ministry of Health, as a site for an approved school as an alternative to the proposed site at Chelsham, Surrey.

Flammable Nightwear

161.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now announce the results of discussions with the trade in connection with non-inflammable nightwear.

The Working Party on Flammable Clothing has recently recommended that the present exemption of infants' gowns from the requirements of the Children's Nightdresses Regulations, 1964 should be partly removed; that in the case of children's nightdresses made from thermoplastic materials, the use of non-melting embroidery and button-hole threads should be permitted above the waist and elbows; and that all adults' nightdresses exceeding 45 inches in length, which do not satisfy a prescribed flammability test, should bear a label warning the customer that suoh garments are not safe from fire. Regulations will now be prepared giving effect to these proposals, except that my right hon. Friend proposes that the labelling requirement should apply to all adults' nightdresses coming within the scope of the new controls, regardless of their length. The present exemption of infants' gowns from the Children's Nightdresses Regulations would in future be limited to gowns with a chest measurement not exceeding 21 inches.

Local Government

Approved School, Chelsham (Inquiry)

162.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will arrange for the inquiry concerning the proposed site for an approved school at Chelsham to be held at Warlingham, since holding the inquiry at Caterham would be inconvenient for the majority of the many objectors.

My right hon. Friend has arranged for this to take place at Chelsham instead of at Caterham.

Local Government Reorganisation (Bedfordshire County Council Review)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in view of the Royal Commission on Local Government, whether the present review undertaken by the Bedfordshire County Council will be implemented.

My right hon. Friend has told local authorities that, after consulting the local authority associations, he has decided to confine his consideration of county review reports and proposals to those submitted to him not later than 31st August, 1966. If the Bedfordshire County Council submit their review by that date, he will consider it. He cannot yet say whether it will be implemented.

Atmospheric Pollution

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in view of the fact that atmospheric pollution costs this country £350 millions per annum, what steps he proposes to take to remedy this situation.

Substantial results have already been achieved in reducing air pollution, including smoke pollution, from those industrial and chemical processes for which the Alkali Inspectorate is responsible and which account for about 75 per cent. of the total fuel burned in the country. The eventual aim is to ensure that in every case the best practical means of reducing the emissions are used.It is estimated that about three-quarters of the total smoke in the U.K. now comes from coal burned on domestic fires. My right hon. Friend's policy is to encourage the local authorities in the polluted areas to exercise their discretionary powers under the Clean Air Act to create smoke control areas. Some of these authorities have made satisfactory progress. He has already taken steps to spur on the remainder and will continue to do so. If necessary, he is prepared to consider making it a statutory duty for local authorities in the black areas to introduce smoke control.

Ministry Of Labour

Busmen (Pay And Conditions)

163.

asked the Minister of Labour how many municipal and company undertakings, excluding London Transport, have concluded negotiations on pay and conditions for busmen since 24th May; and what is the estimated individual percentage increase in each settlement.

We know of only one such settlement. Joint negotiations were in fact concluded in February, 1966, but the settlement was not finalised until 10th June. The agreement, which has been under negotiation for many months, is complex and my right hon. Friend is seeking further information which is necessary before he can estimate the percentage effect.

Disabled Persons, Brighton

asked the Minister of Labour, in view of the large increase in Section 2 of the Disabled Persons Register in the last four years at Brighton, what steps he will take to assist these people.

Discussions are still going on between my officers and the local authority about the provision of sheltered employment in the Brighton area.

Local Authority Officials And Employees

asked the Minister of Labour if he will set out the total number of all officials and employees of local authorities in Great Britain at the latest convenient date, the figure including teachers, police, etc., setting out the number of adult males and adult females over the age of 18 years, respectively, and the number of males between the ages of 15 and 18 years and the number of females between the ages of 15 and 18 years, respectively.

At June, 1965, the latest date for which information is available, 1,066,933 males and 957,793 females were employed by Local Authorities and in Police Forces in Great Britain.

No age analysis of these figures is available.

Building And Construction Industries (Vacancies)

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will circulate a list by trades of unfilled vacancies in the building and construction industries at the earliest convenient date.

Following is the information:

NOTIFIED VACANCIES FOR MEN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRIES IN GREAT BRITAIN REMAINING UNFILLED AT 11TH MAY 1966 ANALYSED BY OCCUPATIONS
OccupationUnfilled Vacancies
Foreman, manager, civil engineering and contracting134
Shutterers122
Carpenter joiner2,743
Bricklayer2,247
Mason, stone carver79
Slater, tiler, thatcher, roofing felt fixer101
Plasterer322
Floor and wall tiler, layer, etc53
Painter, decorator, signwriter2,443
Hot water engineer, heating and domestic engineer126
Plumber, gas fitter, etc1,019
Glazier25
Pavior, road, etc., surface layer130
Steel bender and fixer117
Scaffolder119
Miscellaneous building and civil engineering workers720
Steel erector, sheeter164
Electrician665
Mechanical handling plant etc., operator216
Erector, millwright, maintenance fitter212
Labourers, construction and civil engineering3,670
General labourer (heavy)790
General labourer (light)59
All other occupations2,495
Total18,771
Corresponding information for women, boys and girls is not available.

Hospitals

Horton General Hospital, Banbury

164.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will give his estimate of the completion date of the development of phase I of the scheme for the Horton General Hospital, Banbury; and if he will make a statement.

Phase I of the development of Horton General Hospital, Banbury, is included in the Hospital Building Programme (Cmnd. 3000) in the first list of schemes at present expected to start after 1969–70. I cannot at this stage forecast the date of completion.

Ministry Of Health

Multiple Sclerosis (Research)

asked the Minister of Health what funds have been made available by his Department for research into a cure or possible cure for the disease of multiple sclerosis.

None specifically. The main agency for the allocation of Exchequer moneys to medical research is the Medical Research Council which is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will provide funds so as to enable a thorough examination to be made by suitably qualified medical experts into the effectiveness or otherwise of a method of treatment of multiple sclerosis devised by Professor le Gae.

No. Extensive research into this disease is already being undertaken by qualified research workers who are aware of the method of treatment devised by Professor le Gae.

Disabled Persons (Mini-Minor Cars)

asked the Minister of Health what would be the additional total cost and cost per vehicle, respectively, of providing suitably converted Mini-minor cars instead of the petrol-or electrically-driven single-seater vehicles at present supplied to disabled drivers.

PLANTABLE LAND ACQUIRED BY THE FORESTRY COMMISSION—GREAT BRITAIN
'000 acres acquiredAverage cost per acre
Year ended 30th SeptemberBy purchaseBy lease or feuTotalPurchase priceRent per annum
(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)
£s.d.s.d.
195644·713·658·334229
195739·516·656·1312627
195841·99·351·234030
195930·97·938·8314030
196045·413·859·248044
196139·712·051·751050
196230·34·334·650032
196312·04·916·953041
196433·57·440·9710030
196525·36·031·3812031

On present information the additional total cost is put at a minimum of £40 million over the first eight years; an answer to the second part of the Question would involve the disclosure: of Government contract prices.

Gibraltar (Passage Of Persons And Goods Through Algeciras)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what new restrictions have been imposed by the Spanish authorities on British subjects entering or leaving Spain at Algeciras; and if he will make a statement.

Inquiries concerning the report of further restrictions having been introduced at Algeciras on 16th June were made of the Spanish Government by Her Majesty's Embassy at Madrid on that day. As my right hon. Friend the Colonial Secretary informed the House on 23rd June, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs subsequently denied that the Spanish authorities had introduced any such new measures. My latest information is that the situation with regard to the passage of persons and goods from Gibraltar through Algeciras has not changed since 16th June.

Land And Natural Resources

Forestry Commission (Land)

asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources if he will publish a table in the OFFICIAL REPORT setting out the acreage of land newly purchased and leased by the Forestry Commission in each year in the last 10 years and the average price and rent paid for such new acquisitions each year.

National Finance

Civil Servants (Pensions)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the maximum pensions for 40 years' pensionable service, based on outer London pay scales and including all increases allowable under the relevant Pensions (Increase) Acts, at present payable to civil servants who retired from the grades of postman, clerical officer, executive officer, senior executive officer and principal on 31st March in the years 1944, 1946, 1948, 1950, 1952, 1954, 1956, 1957, 1959, 1961, 1963, 1965 and 1966.

PRESENT 40 YEAR PENSIONS (INCLUDING INCREASE UNDER S. 2 OF 1962 ACT) BASED ON OUTER LONDON MAXIMUM PAY SCALES
£
Retirements at 31st December19461948195019521954195619571959196119631965
Postman283296297293300318324327311322356
Clerical Officer423409403407414425429441434452484
Executive Officer574567559560568592600626615629692
Principal1,0331,0381,0541,0741,0801,1191,1451,2471,2771,3191,453

Pensions And National Insurance

Students

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what steps she takes to warn students who do not pay Class III National Insurance contributions that this may affect their entitlement to benefit later; and whether she is satisfied that these steps are adequate.

The position of students in relation to National Insurance is drawn to their attention in a number of ways. Full information is set out in leaflet N.I.30 which is available at all local offices. This leaflet is referred to on the back of the National Insurance card and in a poster prepared by the Central Office of Information which all schools and colleges have been asked to display. A specially prepared shorter leaflet N.I.30A is included in the grant literature issued to students by Local Education Authorities. My Department has also assisted the National Union of Students in the preparation of the recently issued booklet entitled "Students and National Insurance". If the hon.

The pensions are shown in the following table, which relates to retirements at 31st December in each year, this being the basis on which improved statistics are now being compiled for representative grades.London rates of pay have been used for all figures up to 1959 since these correspond most closely with the outer London rates which were first introduced in 1961.Special and time-consuming calculations would be required to produce figures for the Senior Executive Officer grade and for retirements at 31st December, 1944.Member can suggest any further action which might be taken I will gladly consider it.

asked the Minister of Pensions and National Insurance what proportion of students pay Class III National Insurance contributions; and how many of those who do not make them up later.

I regret that such statistics are not available and, as the contribution records of insured persons who are or were students are not held separately from those of others, could not be obtained without disproportionate expenditure.

Board Of Trade

Industrial Trading Estate, Luton

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the expanding population and high rates, he will establish an industrial trading estate in the Luton rural district by the issue of industrial development certificates.

Existing industry in the area, where there is at present a general shortage of labour, seems likely to absorb any additional labour becoming available. I see no grounds for a relaxation in the issue of industrial development certificates.

Hotel And Tourist Industries

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a statement about his discussions with the British Travel Association concerning the effect of recent Government proposals on the hotel and tourist industries.

We are discussing whether some way can be found for assisting selected hotels to increase significantly their earnings from overseas visitors. I will make a statement as soon as possible.

Trading Agreements (Registration)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the scale of charges payable in respect of the registration of trading agreements under the Restrictive Trade Practices Act.

Shipyards (Geddes Report)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will make a statement on the recommendations in the Geddes Report that several British shipyards should be merged, indicating which yards are affected; and what steps he plans to take on those recommendations.

I would refer to the reply given to the hon. Member for South Shields (Mr. Blenkinsop) on 28th April, 1966.