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Volume 733: debated on Wednesday 10 August 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 10th August, 1966

Roads

M4 (Maidenhead—Luddington Section)

14.

asked the Minister of Transport whether the line for the M4 from Maidenhead roundabout to Luddington has now been decided; when tenders for construction will be called for; and when this section of the M4 will be completed.

My right hon. Friend is now considering objections to her proposals for the eastern 19 miles of the route published last February, and she expects to publish her proposals for the remainder of the route within the next few months. It is too early to say when tenders will be called for, but we expect the whole motorway to be in use by 1971.

M5 (Tewkesbury—Thornbury Section)

15.

asked the Minister of Transport when she now expects the M5 from Tewkesbury to Thornbury to be completed.

A31 (Tricketts Cross—Hampshire Boundary Project)

25.

asked the Minister of Transport why the A31 project between Tricketts Cross and the Hampshire county boundary, Dorset, originally scheduled to start in October, 1965, has been postponed for more than six months.

There was virtually no delay. The contract was let three days after the expiry of the deferment period.

Parking

46.

asked the Minister of Transport what information she has about measures taken by local authorities to relieve traffic congestion, to provide both on-street and off-street parking, and about the costs of various types of parking schemes now in operation, including costs borne by the police or traffic wardens; and if she will collate this information and either publish it in a circular to be made available to local authorities or in a White Paper.

Local authorities are required to give my right hon. Friend only the minimum information necessary for the exercise of her statutory powers of control. We see no point in publishing it.

M1 (Contracts)

47.

asked the Minister of Transport what effect the cut-back in the road programme will have on the M1 Yorkshire motorway; and if she will publish in the Official Report the completion date agreed in the placing of contracts for each section of the motorway under construction, and the revised dates resulting from the cut-back.

None. The final two contracts for the Sheffield-Leeds section of the M1 were let three weeks ago.Following is the further information requested:

ContractCompletion of Work
East Ardsley-StourtonAugust, 1967
Horbury-East ArdsleyAugust, 1967
Darton-HorburyAugust, 1968
Tankersley-DartonAugust, 1968
Blackburn-TankersleyJune, 1968
Meadowhall-BlackburnJune, 1968
Tinsley ViaductOctober, 1967
Aston-TinsleyOctober, 1967

Dartford—Purfleet Tunnel (Traffic)

48.

asked the Minister of Transport if she has considered the representations made to her by the South Essex Traffic Advisory Committee on the traffic congestion and delays to public transport caused by vehicles using the Dartford-Purfleet tunnel; if she is aware that the proposed doubling of this tunnel will aggravate the congestion still further; and if she will expedite the construction of the north orbital road between the A12 and the A13, as a prerequisite to the construction of the second tunnel.

63 and 64.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) what is the nature of the representations made to her by the South Essex Traffic Advisory Committee regarding the traffic congestion engendered by the use of the Dartford-Purfleet tunnel;

(2) if she will expedite the construction of the North Orbital Road, linking the Purfleet entrance of the Dartford-Purfleet tunnel to the Brentwood bypass and thus relieve the traffic congestion in the area.

The Committee refers to delays to bus services in its area caused by existing tunnel traffic. It considers that the proposed duplication of the tunnel will aggravate this congestion and has therefore advocated early construction of the A12 to A13 section of the north Orbital road.These problems will be discussed at a meeting of the Department's officials with those of the County and other local authorities on 15th August.

M1 And M6 (Links)

51.

asked the Minister of Transport when work will begin on the motorway links between M1 and M6.

Construction is proceeding in sections. Work on the northern 8¼ miles was completed in March, and the next 6 miles will be completed later this year. I expect to let a further contract at the end of the year and the remaining sections will follow as quickly as possible.

High Wycombe Bypass

50.

asked the Minister of Transport when the first eight miles of the High Wycombe bypass will be open to traffic; when work will start on the construction of the second part of the bypass, including the Loudwater viaduct; and when this work will be completed and the entire bypass opened.

My right hon. Friend still cannot give a definite date, but work has progressed faster recently. Work on the second part began in June except for Loudwater viaduct which will start in September. The entire bypass is due to be opened by the summer of 1968.

asked the Minister of Transport what effect the imposition of the Selective Employment Tax will have on the cost of construction of the High Wycombe by-pass road; what applications for authority to increase tenders already accepted have been agreed by her; and for what amounts these tenders are.

The precise effect cannot be ascertained at this stage. The answer to the second part of the question is none, but an application for an increase of a tender under negotiation at budget date was accepted. The amended tender figure is £3,456,880.

A1 (Long Bennington By-Pass)

53.

asked the Minister of Transport why the Al Long Bennington by-pass, Kesteven, Lincolnshire, which was originally scheduled to start in December 1965, has been postponed for more than six months.

The delay has been caused by the need to resolve local objections to our proposals. My right hon. Friend now intends to let a contract by the end of the year.

Exchequer Expenditure

56.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the Government's economic policy, she will give an assurance that the provision made in the White Paper on Transport Policy for Exchequer expenditure on new roads and major improvements in Great Britain to rise to £280 million, at constant prices, by 1970 will be fulfilled.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave him on Monday, 8th August.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the estimated capital expenditure on roads in urban areas in Great Britain annually from 1960–61 to the latest convenient date, by the Exchequer and local authorities, respectively.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given on Monday 8th August to the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare (Mr. Webster).

A38 (Schemes)

57 and 58.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) why the A38 Drumbridge-Chudleigh Knighton Bridge project in Devon, originally scheduled to start in November 1965, has been postponed for more than six months;(2) why the A38 project between Cut-well Cross and Carew Arms, Ugborough, Devon, which was originally scheduled to start in November, 1965, has been postponed for more than six months;(3) why the A38 Ashburton by-pass in Devon, originally scheduled to start in November, 1965, has been postponed for more than six months.

The delay to these three schemes since the end of the deferment period is due to difficulty in acquiring the necessary land.

asked the Minister of Transport why the A38 project between Blue Linhay Hill and East Caton Cross at Ashburton, Devon, originally scheduled to start in October 1965, has been postponed for more than six months.

A6 (Rerouting)

65.

asked the Minister of Transport when she will announce the new route of the A6 so that local authorities in the Kettering division of Northamptonshire can plan ahead.

The plan to divert A6 away from the centre of Kettering is shown in the approved Town Map. My right hon. Friend's proposals to reroute A6 in the centre of Desborough were made public in May and she hopes to reach a decision on that project by the end of the year.More details about traffic are to be obtained to show whether any other improvements are needed and if so what form they should take.

M1 (Accidents)

68.

asked the Minister of Transport how many people were killed in accidents on the M1 between 1st July, 1965 and 30th June, 1966.

B1257 (Accidents At Amotherby Crossroads)

69.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps she is taking to reduce the number of accidents at Amotherby crossroads on B1257 in view of the number of serious accidents that have occurred there in the last three years.

As my hon. Friend told the hon. Member on 3rd August we consider that the new "Give Way" signs with double broken white lines will reduce the danger here.

Road Rollers (Weight Limit)

70.

asked the Minister of Transport what representations she has received from the makers of road rollers and from local authorities responsible for their use in connection with the repair of footpaths concerning the amendment of the Vehicles (Conditions of Use on Footpaths) Regulations 1963 as set out in Statutory Instrument No. 864, 1966; and why it took three years to obtain amendment of the former Regulations.

Manufacturers of footpath maintenance equipment and local authorities objected to the 3 ton weight limit which the 1963 Regulations imposed on such equipment. The local authorities also represented that the requirements of those Regulations as to the authorisation of the use of such equipment were too onerous. My right hon. Friend has received no representations since the amending Regulations were made.The time taken in making the amending Regulations has been employed mainly in getting agreement between the gas undertakings and local authorities on the provisions of the new Regulations and on procedures for working them.

A34 (Spur Road, Didcot)

71.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will ensure that a spur road to Didcot is included in the scheme for realignment of the A34 from Hinksey to Chilton by-passing Abingdon.

The need for a spur road to Didcot from the proposed Abingdon by-pass will be assessed as part of the studies leading to the publication of the draft Order for the by-pass. These have not progressed far enough for a decision to be taken yet.

A5 (Signposting Of Road Works)

72 and 73.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) if, in consequence of her investigations into this matter, she is now satisfied that the road-works on the A5 road at Oakengates, Shropshire, were adequately signposted on the night of 20th-21st June, 1966; and if she will make a statement;(2) if her investigation into the signposting of the roadworks on the A5 road at Oakengates, Shropshire, on the night of 20th-21st June, 1966, included consultation with the local residents.

My right hon. Friend's investigations, which did not include consultation with local residents, have shown that there were four signs on each side of the roadworks. Their wording, positioning and visibility were such as to give drivers adequate warning of the works. We are, however, now considering whether the steepness of the ramp around a manhole cover was a contributory factor in the accidents which have occurred.

Southern Link Road

asked the Minister of Transport why the Southern Link Road, Hatfield New Town, which was originally scheduled to start in October, 1965, has been postponed for more than six months.

There was no delay. The contractor started preparatory work in April and main works started two days after the expiry of the deferment period.

Parking, Cheltenham (Disc System)

asked the Minister of Transport whether a report has been prepared concerning the successful results achieved by the parking disc scheme in Cheltenham; and when it will be published.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I have today given to the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr. John Hall).

D Ring Road, North-West London

asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware that the London Road Traffic Survey, Volume II, states the need for the D Ring Road in North-West London, and that the traffic forecast for the section between the M1 at Bushey and the M4 is the heaviest of all sections; and, in view of the hold up of improvements to the A312–4090 road, whether she will give an assurance that the report of her consultants, Messrs. Brandt and O'Dells, will be accepted or a final alternative announced within six months.

In the light of information emerging from the London Traffic Survey the Greater London Council has suggested that alternative routes for the ring road not so far out should be considered. This will be done as quickly as possible, but I cannot yet set a date for a line to be published.

Proposed Motorway (Swiss Cottage—Primrose Hill Road)

asked the Minister of Transport if she has made an estimate of the cost of putting the proposed motorway from Swiss Cottage to Primrose Hill road in a tunnel.

The proposed motorway is a project of the Greater London Council. The council is investigating the route and the most appropriate form of construction.

Transport

South-West Economic Planning Council (Consultation)

49.

asked the Minister of Transport why the South-West Economic Planning Council was not consulted about the proposals in the recent White Paper on Transport before its publication; if she is aware that this action has caused doubts about the seriousness of the Government in securing local co-operation for its regional policy; and whether she will give an undertaking not to issue further policy statements before taking into account the views of the representatives of the people most affected.

It is my right hon. Friend's policy, as Chapter V of the White Paper indicates, to consult Regional Economic Planning Councils on all transport matters which directly affect them and before reaching any decisions she invariably gives the most serious attention to their views. But it is probably inevitable from time to time, as for example in the case of Portbury on which she was of course aware of the views of the South-West Council, that regional views will not coincide with wider national considerations which must of course prevail.

London Underground Railway (Ticket Booths)

59.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction to the London Transport Board that ticket booths on the London Underground system shall be continuously manned.

Commercial Vans (Accidents)

61.

asked the Minister of Transport how many accidents within the last 12 months have occurred involving small commercial vans where the absence of possible additional side windows may have been a contributory factor; and what statistics are kept by her Department to keep a check on such possibilities.

The national statistics do not give this information, but a special study of vans in accidents is to be made.

Commercial Vehicles (Parking Space)

62.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will seek powers to enable her to make it a condition of the issue of A, B or C carriers' licences for commercial vehicles that the applicant should have sufficient parking space on his own premises for his vehicles and should use such parking space for the vehicles when not in use.

My right hon. Friend will bear this in mind in her review of the carriers' licensing system, but it would touch only part of the problem. Local authorities already have powers under the Road Traffic Acts to control or prohibit parking on the street by commercial vehicles.

Fares (Standstill)

66.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will take steps to ensure that the area traffic commissioners refuse any application for an increase in fares on public transport during the period of the prices standstill.

I have no doubt that the Traffic Commissioners will have regard to the principles of the standstill.

Railways

Derby Workshop (Orders)

52.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will give an assurance that the proposed emergency economies in railway investment will not affect the orders for new coaching stock at the railway workshop in Derby.

Wivenhoe-Brightlingsea Line (Reopening)

54 and 55.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) whether she will make a statement on the present position of the railway line from Wiven-hoe to Brightlingsea; and whether she will reopen this line on the grounds of social necessity;(2) what she estimates would be the cost of reopening the Wivenhoe-Brightlingsea branch line.

Consent to the withdrawal of passenger services on this line was given and closure effected under the previous Government. My right hon. Friend has no powers to require the Railways Board to reopen the line. This question, and the cost of doing so, is a matter for the Railways Board. She has no evidence that there are real social grounds for reopening.

Mersey Railway (Improvement)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now authorise British Railways to construct a loop railway linking Liverpool Central (Lower Level), Lime Street and Exchange Stations, and to construct a burrowing junction at Birkenhead Hamilton Square Station.

This proposal to improve the Mersey railway is being developed by the Steering Committee on Merseyside Traffic and Transport. I shall consider it when I receive detailed proposals for the project.

Pershore Railway Station

67.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of sparse transport services, she will use her statutory powers to cause Pershore Railway Station to be kept open; and whether she will make a statement.

So far the Railways Board has not published a proposal under Section 56 of the Transport Act, 1962, to close this station to passengers. If it does, my right hon. Friend will consider it in accordance with the usual procedures, which would include a full study of the adequacy of alternative services. Until then I cannot anticipate any decision she may be called on to make.

Signalmen

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the Railways Board to ensure that excessive hours are not worked by railway signalmen; and if she will make a statement.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware that there is a shortage of relief signalmen which is causing a danger to rail-users; and whether she will give a general direction, in the interest of safety, to the Railways Board that all signal boxes should be properly manned to prevent any possibility of rail accidents.

The manning of signal boxes is the responsibility of the British Railways Board and I am satisfied that they are alive to this responsibility. A general direction would not be appropriate.

Three Bridges—Tunbridge Wells Line

asked the Minister of Transport when a decision on the future of the Three Bridges—Tunbridge Wells line will be made, in view of the Government's White Paper on Transport Policy, Command Paper No. 3057.

My right hon. Friend's examination of this proposal is nearly complete and she expects to give her decision before long now.

Hurst Green-Lewes Line

asked the Minister of Transport when a decision on the future of the Hurst Green-Lewes line will be made, in view of the Government's White Paper on Transport Policy, Command Paper No. 3057.

The Railways Board has sought my right hon. Friend's agreement to the publication under Section 56 of the Transport Act 1962 of its proposal to discontinue passenger services on this line. She is studying the advice of the Economic Planning Council for the South East and other relevant factors and hopes to give her decision shortly.

Open Liner Terminals (Staff)

asked the Minister of Transport what guarantees the British Railways Board has given to staff made redundant by the introducion of open freight liner terminals; and whether the Board propose to expand their operations from these terminals by the transfer of staff from other freight depots.

The Board has provided the railway unions with all the guarantees sought. In particular, railway cartage staff not required at other freight depots affected by open terminals but prepared to change their place of work will be absorbed.

Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate (Salary)

43.

asked the Attorney-General why, in view of the Government's wages and salaries standstill he decided that Manchester Corporation should pay a further 11 per cent. salary increase for the city's stipendiary magistrate; and, as this proposed increase is the equivalent of an extra £24 per week during the last two years, whether he will reconsider this matter.

The present rate of salary of the Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate has been paid since 19th May, 1966. There is no proposal for a further increase. Accordingly, the salary is not affected by the standstill policy.

Courts (Cases Awaiting Trial)

41.

asked the Attorney-General whether he is aware that there are 1,220 actions pending in the Queen's Bench Division, 333 cases in the Chancery Division, and that the Law Courts have closed for a nine weeks' vacation; and whether he will take the necessary action to shorten the Law Court vacations.

I am aware that there are in fact about 900 cases awaiting trial in the Queen's Bench Division and 211 in the Chancery Division. The fact that the long vacation lasts for nine weeks does not, of course, mean that all the judges will be on holiday throughout this period, as some will be required to sit in criminal courts and others as vacation judges. Any alteration in the length of the vacations is a matter for my noble friend the Lord Chancellor in consultation with the judges.

Supreme Court (Vacations)

44.

asked the Attorney-General what is the total annual length of vacation of the High Court; and what plans he has for its reduction.

The vacations prescribed by the Rules of the Supreme Court amount to three weeks at Christmas, just under two weeks at Easter, a week at Whitsun and nine weeks in the Long Vacation. The judges are, however, frequently required to deal with business both in London and on circuit and at Quarter Sessions during the vacations. Any alteration in the length of the vacations is a matter for my noble friend, the Lord Chancellor, in consultation with the judges.

Divorce Proceedings (Press Reports)

45.

asked the Attorney-General whether he will take action under the Judicial Proceedings (Regulation of Reports) Act, 1926, in respect of the publication on 13th and 14th July of statements made by counsel in the course of divorce proceedings.

Although in my view there was an infringement of Section 1 of the Act in the newspaper reports referred to, nevertheless I do not consider that in the circumstances of this case proceedings under the Act would be appropriate. However, I would like to draw the attention of the Press to the need to prevent any similar infringement in the future.

Judicial Salaries (Increases)

asked the Attorney-General why he will not freeze the increases in judicial salaries, in view of the Government's recent declaration and action in freezing wages and salary scales of workers whose proposed increases have been negotiated and agreed upon before that declaration.

Judicial salary increases were implemented long before 20th July, 1966 and thus do not fall within the terms of paragraph 20 of the White Paper on Prices and Incomes Standstill.

Ministry Of Aviation

Boac And Bea (Aircraft)

75.

asked the Minister of Aviation if, in view of the economic crisis, he will give general directions to the British Overseas Airways Corporation and British European Airways to confine their purchases of new aircraft to home manufacturers in the long-term in terests of British aviation.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my statement to the House on 2nd August.

76.

asked the Minister of Aviation why the British Overseas Airways Corporation has been authorised to buy a further Boeing 707–320C for freight purposes, to be delivered in late 1967, rather than being instructed to use a freighter version of the VC10.

Because no all-cargo version of the Super VC10 had been developed nor could have been developed so as to be available at the date when the Boeing aircraft is needed and can be obtained by B.O.A.C.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will give an estimate of whether the cost of the launching aid for the new British European Airways aircraft procurement is more or less than twice the estimated cost of developing the Superbe.

The amount of launching aid will depend upon the aircraft finally selected by B.E.A. but is likely to be about half the estimated cost of developing the airframe of the Superb. There would have been additional engine development costs for the Superb.

Aircraft And Navigation Equipment (Exports To America)

77.

asked the Minister of Aviation what steps he is taking to promote increased sales of aircraft and navigation equipment to the United States for military and civil use; and if he will make a statement.

We are giving all the support we can to the manufacturers of these items in their efforts to increase exports to the U.S.A. I expect military sales to increase substantially as a result of the Offset agreement.

Short Brothers And Harland (Work)

78.

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will divert further sub contract work to Short Brothers and Harland pending the planned diversification of the factory in order to avoid interim unemployment before fresh work is made available; and if he will make a statement on expected progress over the next four months.

There is no further aircraft or missile work which I am able to allocate or divert to Shorts at the present time.Future employment prospects will be affected by the progress of diversification, for which my right hon. Friend the First Secretary is responsible.

Scottish Highland Services

79.

asked the Minister of Aviation whether he will now make a statement about increasing and improving air services to the Highlands following discussions between the airlines concerned and the Highland Transport Board in view of the difficulty in the summer in obtaining seats even at a week's notice.

The change over from Heralds to Viscounts, which has already begun and will be completed towards the end of this year, should greatly increase the capacity B.E.A. is able to offer on the Scottish Highland services. These and other improvements are matters which are regularly discussed between B.E.A. and the Highland Transport Board.

Press Leaks (Inquiry)

80.

asked the Minister of Aviation whether the subsidiary investigations, following the interim report on the leaks to the Press about the European Launcher Development Organisation, have shown that any leaks took place from his Department; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given by the Prime Minister to the hon. Member for Moray and Nairn (Mr. G. Campbell) on 2nd August.

Concord Programme

asked the Minister of Aviation if he will provide the latest authoritative estimate of the anticipated total cost of the Concord project; and if he will make a statement.

I have nothing to add at this stage to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member for Portsmouth, West (Mr. Judd) on 27th July. I will publish this information as soon as possible.

asked the Minister of Aviation what estimates he has of the value of technological fall-out to the British economy which will be created by the Concord development programme.

We are undoubtedly deriving from the Concord programme new technical knowledge which could have useful applications for other branches of industry, but it is not possible to put a monetary value to this.

Wireless And Television

Pirate Broadcasting Stations (Anglo-Irish Discussions)

81.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will seek to hold discussions with the Government of the Irish Republic with a view to co-ordinating legislation and administration to implement the Council of Europe agreement designed to prevent the operation of pirate broadcasting stations.

Small Radio Transmitters (Licence)

84.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware of the retail distribution of miniature frequency modulation wireless transmitters in Newcastle-upon-Tyne and other parts of of the United Kingdom; whether he will refuse the granting of licences for the use of such equipment; and whether he will make a statement.

I am aware that small radio transmitters are offered for sale in Newcastle-upon-Tyne and elsewhere which are not suitable for any purpose for which I should be prepared to grant a licence. Anyone found using these devices is of course liable to prosecution.

Colour Television (Transmission On 405 Lines)

85.

asked the Postmaster-General what technical evidence he has that a black and white picture from a television colour transmission on 405 lines is not satisfactory.

I would refer the hon. Member to the speech I made on 6th July in the debate on Motion for the Adjournment.

Television Licence (Savings Cards)

87.

asked the Postmaster-General what facilities exist for the payment of radio and television licences by instalments; and what steps he is taking to publicise these facilities.

Special savings cards have been introduced to help people to save towards the cost of a television licence. Post Office counter staff and the organisers of savings groups make the availability of the cards known to the public. Over 2 million cards have been distributed.

Post Office

World Cup Stamp

82.

asked the Postmaster-General, whether he will commemorate the English victory in the World Soccer Cup Final by making a fresh issue of World Cup stamps over printed, England 30th July, 1966, or similar wording.

My right hon. Friend has already arranged to issue a stamp for this occasion, using the design of the 4d. World Cup stamp with the addition of the caption "England: Winners". The stamp will be on sale on 18th August at post offices in England only.

Postal Charges (Increases)

83.

asked the Post master General whether he will defer the proposed increases in postal charges until 20th January, 1967 to conform with the general standstill on prices.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply of 8th August to my hon. Friend the Member for West Ham, North (Mr. Arthur Lewis).

Sub-Post Office, Kinsham

86.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he is aware that his refusal to establish a sub-post office at Kinsham, Worcestershire, causes substantial hardship to at least 20 retirement pensioners who incur 1s. 4d. per week minimum bus fares to Kemerton or Tewkesbury to draw their pensions, advancing years and infirmity adding to difficulties struggling on and off inadequate omnibus services in a rural district; and whether he will establish a sub-post office or send a General Post Office mini-van to deliver the pensions to pensioners in Kinsham.

I am sorry that I should not be justified in adopting either of the arrangements to which the hon. Gentleman refers. Retirement pensioners who find the journey to a Post Office too difficult can nominate a friend or some other person to collect their pensions for them.

Sub-Post Office, Winchester (Closure)

asked the Postmaster-General why he has decided to close the sub-post office at the junction of Broadway and Eastgate Street in Winchester.

Because we could not justify its retention when the large new head post office counter is opened in Middlebrook Street, only some 350 yards away, on 2nd September. The new counter will be equipped and staffed to cater for people who now use the sub-post office as well as for those who use the present head post office counter.

Public Corporation (Press Announcement)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will cause an investigation to be made as to how his decision to establish a Government board for the Post Office was prematurely divulged to the Press.

Reorganisation (Money And Manpower Savings)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state what savings in money and manpower are expected as a result of the rearrangement of the control of the Post Office.

It is not a question of effecting savings but of putting the Post Office in a better position to meet the big problems of expansion, modernisation and reorganisation it now faces. As I said in my statement in the House on 3rd August, the Government believe that the change in status will make a considerable contribution to the efficiency of the Post Office, and the efficiency of Britain, in the years ahead.

Telephone Service

Transfers (Retention Of Old Numbers)

88.

asked the Postmaster-General why a subscriber who changes his address but retains his old telephone number at his new address is treated as a new subscriber for the collection of the extra telephone rental.

A transfer to a new address requires new arrangements, and retention of the old telephone number does not obviate this need.

Gibraltar Calls (Delay)

89.

asked the Postmaster-General why it has recently become difficult to telephone to Gibraltar; why there have been in the last two weeks several cable breakdowns; and what evidence he has that a go-slow movement for telephonic connections via Madrid is being conducted along the lines of the motor car hold up at the Spain /Gibraltar frontier.

Owing to heavy seasonal traffic there is delay on all telephone calls to the Iberian Peninsula. Recently there have been three cable failures, two in France and one in Spain, affecting our service to Gibraltar. There is no evidence of a go-slow movement in Madrid; delay is mainly due to congested conditions there.

Outstanding Applications

asked the Postmaster-General how many outstanding applications for new telephones there were in the United Kingdom on 31st July, 1966.

Subscribers (Orpington And South Antrim)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will state the average percentage increase in the number of telephones in use in Orpington and South Antrim, respectively, between 1955 and 1965.

Orpington approximately 5½ per cent. South Antrim approximately 11 per cent.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Imported Pre-Packed Meat (Labelling)

90.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that new proposals for the labelling of pre-packed cuts of imported meat, which provide for lettering only an eighth of an inch high, will ensure that the necessary information is sufficiently legible to customers, when lettering on cuts not pre-packed is required to be half an inch high; and if he will make a statement.

This was one of the questions considered by the Standing Committee set up under the Merchandise Marks Act, 1926, in its Report which was published on 26th October last. The proposals for smaller lettering in certain cases are based on the Committee's recommendations, though they have been extended to cover slightly heavier packs of meat. It seems reasonable to permit a lower minimum size for lettering on a label which will be read when the package is held in the hand than for lettering on a ticket displayed with an unpacked article and intended to be read at a distance.

Egg Marketing Board (Free-Range Eggs)

91.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make regulations under the Food and Drugs Acts to require the Egg Marketing Board to mark as such free-range eggs distributed by them; and if he will make a statement.

The proposals for new regulations on food labelling which were issued last September did not include any provision which would require food produced under cerain conditions, including eggs from hens on free-range, to be especially labelled. Comments on this and all other points on the proposals are now being considered and no final decisions have been reached.

Fish Disease (River Trent)

93.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement about the fish disease now affecting roach and other coarse fish in the River Trent; and what similarity it has to the disease now rampant in Eire.

Disease is now occurring mainly among roach in the Lincolnshire, Severn, Trent, and Welland and Nene River Authority areas. In Lincolnshire the disease has been identified by bacteriological test as columnaris disease; in the other areas the results of tests are still awaited. Whilst the symptoms correspond in many respects with those found in Ireland, there are certain differences including that the disease as it affects coarse fish in this country appears to be less lethal.

94.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will consult the National Federation of Anglers and other bodies concerned with fishing to ensure that the fish disease now reported in the River Trent is confined to those waters.

The National Federation and other fishery bodies have been informed of the measures which anglers should take to prevent the spread of the disease.

Covent Garden Market

95.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in view of the saving of manpower which would result from the completion of the Covent Garden Market project, if he will ensure that sufficient funds remain avail able to keep the design team together and to purchase the land and complete other essential preliminaries.

Planning for the new market will continue. The consultations referred to by my right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary to the Treasury in his Written Answer of 25 th July (OFFICIAL REPORT—c. 202–203) include consultations with the Covent Garden Market Authority.

Agricultural Mortgage Corporation (Interest Rates)

96.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will state the rates of interest payable on loans from the Agricultural Mortgage Corporation from its inception up to the present time; whether the new rate of 8½ per cent. has been approved under the Government's new policy, coming as it did after 20th July, 1966; and whether the rate of 8½ per cent. will be taken as the basis for calculations of the cost of farmers long-term credit in the discussions leading up to the 1967 Agricultural Price Review.

The following is the list of rates of interest on mortgage loans charged by the Agricultural Mortgage Corporation since its inception:

RateOperative from
5per cent.19th December, 1928
"16th April, 1934
"16th May, 1944
4"4th November, 1949
"17th May, 1951
"26th November, 1951
"26th February, 1952
6"7th August, 1952
"14th May, 1953
5"26th November, 1953
"20th May, 1954
"4th August, 1955
"31st July, 1956
6"26th July, 1957
7"10th October, 1957
6"25th July, 1958
"23rd April, 1959
6"26th May, 1960
"14th July, 1960
7"20th July, 1961
"11th August, 1961
7"10th May, 1962
"11th October, 1962
6"18th January, 1963
"6th February, 1964
"24th April, 1964
"22nd January, 1965
"26th May, 1965
"1st August, 1966
As regards the second part of the Question, I would refer the right hon. Member to the reply I gave on 5th August to the hon. Member for Norfolk, South-West (Mr. Hawkins).As regards the last part—the cost of farmers' long-term credit, by agreement with the Farmers' Unions, is not directly taken into account at Agricultural Price Reviews.

Brucellosis

92.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food on what date he will inaugurate his scheme for the elimination of brucellosis.

As soon as possible after details of the scheme have been elaborated and discussed with interested organisations.

Selective Employment Tax

97.

asked the Minister of Agriculture. Fisheries and Food what representations he has received from horticultural growers' co-operatives and marketing organisations about the effect of the Selective Employment Tax.

Fourteen horticultural growers' co-operatives have written about the effects of the Selective Employment Tax. In their representations these bodies have asked that, like individual growers, they should have the tax refunded to them.

Farm Rents

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether rises in farm rents already agreed but not yet in force will be permitted to come into effect;(2) whether arbitrators' awards of increases in farm rents due to take effect at the next term date will be permitted to come into being.

The Government have made it clear in Cmnd. 3073 that the principles of the standstill apply to all farm rents. I have today met representatives of the Country Landowners' Association who have assured me that they are advising their members to comply fully with the principles of the standstill and that a circular, the terms of which have been discussed and agreed with the National Farmers' Union, on the action which should be taken, would be issued immediately. Members are being told that increases in farm rents, other than those which are attributable to improvements, should be postponed if they were not effective before 20th July.

Retail Food Prices (European Economic Community)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a comparison between the minimum retail prices which will result from common producer prices recently agreed at Brussels with those prevailing in the United Kingdom.

. It is not possible to predict what the level of retail food prices will be in the countries of the European Economic Community when the common levels of producer prices that have been agreed come into operation. This will depend amongst other things on distributive margins and a number of other variable factors. But, taken overall, the producer prices agreed for the Community are substantially higher than our own and this must be reflected at the retail stage.

Agricultural Improvement Grants (Applications)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the average delay in dealing with applications for agricultural building grants.

The time taken to arrange for inspections of applications under the Farm Improvement Scheme and to scrutinise specifications and tenders varies considerably from case to case. At this time of year applications are very numerous and we usually have on hand the equivalent of about two months' applications. No statistics are kept of the length of time taken to reach a final decision on individual cases.

Egg Subsidy (Payments)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will adjust the subsidy payments so as to ameliorate the difficulties at present being experienced by egg producers.

I am not sure what difficulties the hon. Member has in mind, but I see no necessity at present for adjustments to the existing egg subsidy arrangements.

Food And Drink Prices (Discussions)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on his joint discussions with food manufacturers and others on recent price increases in a wide range of food products; and to what extent these talks have ensured that the Government's price standstill policy will apply so far as these food products are concerned.

During the past week I have met the leading representatives of the main sections of the food and drink industry, namely, manufactured foods, milling and baking, brewing, wines and spirits, fresh meat and poultry, meat products, fresh fruit and vegetables, fish, eggs and dairy products, tea and coffee, and the wholesalers and retailers of groceries and provisions. I explained to them the restraint which I expected them to exercise on food and drink prices in accordance with the White Paper on the Prices and Incomes Standstill, and I am glad to say that the representatives of every section of the industry gave me assurances that they would co-operate fully with the Government in carrying out the policy in the White Paper.It was also agreed that in order to ensure that close touch is maintained between different sections of the industry and my Department during the next twelve months, small informal liaison committees should be set up. These committees will be particularly valuable in the case of those commodities listed in Part B of the Appendix to Cmnd. 2808, whose prices must inevitably go up and down in accordance with short-term variations in supply and demand on the commodity markets. Unless such price changes take place, shortages or surpluses would develop which would be far more harmful to consumers. This is the reason why, under paragraph 10 of the White Paper, such commodities are not subject to a price standstill but instead the prices being charged will be kept under constant watch by my Department. The liaison committees will enable my Department to be kept fully informed and to see, in co-operation with the industry, that no unnecessary price increases occur.In accordance with paragraph 8 of the White Paper, my Department will be reviewing with the different sections of the food and drink industry the existing early warning arrangements which, together with those for constant watch, cover the whole range of prices. I hope, therefore, that we can make good progress with these discussions, so that this strengthened early warning system can be applied to food and drink prices, thus making it possible to replace the arrangements under paragraph 9. I am glad to say that the representatives of many of the leading food and drink manufacturers and processors have given me their assurance that, unless exceptional circumstances arise, they will not raise their food and drink prices above existing levels until at least the end of the year.

Brewing Industry (Discussions)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on his discussion with representatives of the brewing industry; and by what authority he purported to enforce a price standstill in beer prices between 20th July and 1st August, 1966.

Discussions with the brewing industry are still continuing and I am not in a position to make a statement.As regards the second part of this question, the standstill on beer prices which with certain exceptions has been operating for some considerable time, rests on the voluntary co-operation of those concerned in the same way as the general standstill on other prices and incomes which was announced by the Prime Minister in his statement to the House on 20th July last.

Scotland

A74 (Lesmahagow Section)

98.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware of the danger arising from the fact that a small section of the A74 at Lesmahagow has not been brought up to the standard of that highway; and when he expects work on this section to be undertaken.

I agree that this stretch of road has unsatisfactory features, including the bend near Bonnington crossroads, and, although I have no immediate plans for reconstructing or realigning it, I am considering quicker and less costly ways of improving driving conditions there.

Exchequer Equalisation Grant (Kirkcudbright And Wigtown)

99.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will state the amount of the Exchequer Equalisation Grant received by the counties of Kirkcudbright and Wigtown in 1965–66 and 1966–67; and what is his estimate for 1967–68.

The amounts received in 1965–66 and due to be received in 1966–67 by Kirkcudbright are £175,754 and £185,254, respectively. The corresponding amounts for Wigtown are £243,587 and £292,750. In 1967–68 some balances for earlier years will fall to be paid, but if the Local Government (Financial Provisions) (Scotland) Bill is enacted no further Exchequer Equalisation Grant will be paid. Together with other grants it will be replaced by rate support grant.

Foresterhill College, Aberdeen

100.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the new £340,000 Foresterhill College, Aberdeen, for the education and training of nurses, which is being built under his authority, will be opened; and what is the extent of its accommodation and programme of work and tuition.

In view of the interest which the College has aroused I am making available the following statement:

Foresterhill College

New and expanded nurse training facilities for the Aberdeen area are being provided at Foresterhill, Aberdeen, in accordance with proposals agreed by the hospital and the nurse training authorities. The object is partly to extend existing nurse training accommodation and partly to improve the standard of nurse education.
The new college of nursing is situated in the Foresterhill site which already contains the University Medical School and hospitals coming under two Boards of Management. Close by is the Royal Cornhill Hospital, a large mental hospital coming under a third Board of Management. The whole site at Foresterhill is being developed to provide a hospital complex which will provide all the main specialist hospital requirements for the area.
Training given at the college will be according to the syllabuses laid down by the General Nursing Council and the Central Midwives Board. The initial complement will be about 850 student nurses, pupil nurses and pupil midwives, rising ultimately to about 1,000; of these, some 240 will be using the accommodation at any one time.
By concentrating the theoretical part of their training in a single college it is hoped to create a much better understanding between those being trained in the various fields of nursing. With this in mind a single common room is provided for pupil nurses, student nurses and pupil midwives, and intakes in all the disciplines are planned to coincide as far as possible. It is also the aim to associate members of the college with other students on the Foresterhill site; and joint lectures may be given.
Training arrangements will be supervised by a council set up for the purpose and working in conjunction with the Regional Nurse Training Committee. Practical training will continue to be given in the Aberdeen hospitals.
The college (about 40,000 square feet) is being erected by industrial building methods at a cost of about £340,000. It is modern in design and has been planned to give maximum flexibility. Teaching accommodation includes classrooms, practice suites, discussion and study rooms, together with a large lecture room. A feature is the provision of a library to include bays suitable for private study by the students. There is administrative accommodation for the teaching staff at the college and students' dining and common rooms.
The building should be completed by March, 1967, and it is hoped to open the college for students in May, 1967. The opening of the college should prove to be a major advance in nurse education and in the rational use of training resources and should provide scope for developing new methods of training nurses.

Forged Banknotes

101.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the number of forged Scottish five pound notes, indicating what steps he is taking to trace and penalise the forger and to compensate those suffering loss thereby.

I have no means of finding out the number of these forged banknotes which have been printed or are in circulation. With regard to the other parts of the Question I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the reply I gave him to a similar Question yesterday.

Ellon Hospital, Aberdeen

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has considered further the question of keeping open Eilon Hospital, in view of expanding populations round about as well as in Aberdeen causing pressure on hospital accommodation; and if he will make a statement.

Winter Keep Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will undertake further studies into the practicability of introducing an optional headage or acreage basis for C grade farmers under the Winter Keep (Scotland) Scheme.

No. I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 15th July to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, West (Mr. Stodart).

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to establish the reasons why farmers qualify- ing for C grade winter keep grants fail to receive grants; and if he will make a study of a sample of such farmers for this purpose.

I am considering whether further study of this question could usefully be undertaken without undue expense.

Ministry Of Defence

Armed Services (Food Supplies)

102.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what stage the inquiry into the rationalisation of the supply of food for the Services has reached; and if he will give an assurance that full consideration is being given to the use of civilian organisations such as the Navy, Army and Air Force Institutes so as to reduce to the minimum the cost to public funds and the demand on Service manpower and directly employed civilians.

As from 1st April this year the Navy Department assumed responsibility for the supply of food for all three Services and for its distribution not only to the Navy but also to Army Command Supply Depots and R.A.F. units in the United Kingdom and to main depots overseas. The Answer to the second part of the Question is "Yes".

Bandsman Alan Bowers

103.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why Bandsman Alan Bowers, 23725187, of 4th-7th Royal Dragoon Guards was not granted leave to marry Miss Gaskell of Stockport on 13th August, 1966.

He was needed for band engagements, of which he had been given three months' notice; he was told on 13th May that he could be granted leave for his wedding at any time in July or August except 2nd-9th August and 13th August.

104.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when Bandsman Alan Bowers, 23725187, of 4th-7th Royal Dragoon Guards was posted back to Great Britain from Aden; and when he became a key musician in the band to which he is now attached.

Fork-Lift Trucks

asked the Secretary of State for Defence, in view of the Army's requirement of 500 air portable fork-lift trucks, costing in the region of £1½ million, whether he has been able to ensure that these requirements are met entirely by British manufacturers using British components; and what action he has taken to prove or disprove by working trials the claim by a company the name of which has been sent to him that their type N.40 fork-lift truck meets the Army requirements.

My right hon. Friend has not yet decided how this requirement will be met; the M/40/9/D truck will be tested as soon as a prototype is available.

Rear-Admiral Mcgeoch (Helicopter Flight)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why, and how, the cost of flying Rear-Admiral I. L. M. McGeoch from Lee-on-Solent to Broms-grove School, a distance of some 240 miles, and involving the exclusive use of Naval Helicopter No. WV204, was considerably less than would be charged by a private hire operator.

Because the aircraft was available and the air personnel were on duty, so that the only extra cost of this visit was for fuel.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the cost of Rear-Admiral I. L. M. McGeoch's visit to Bromsgrove School on Saturday, 23rd July is to be recovered from the school.

Meteorological Office (Arrangement With East Germany)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what arrangements the meteorological services have with the East German meteorological services for exchanging information regarding weather conditions at Schonefeld Airport and London Airport.

The Meteorological Office has no bi-lateral arrangements with the East German meteorological service for exchanging weather information.However, under international arrangements made by the World Meteorological Organisation, which supplies information to and seeks co-operation from non-members such as East Germany, synoptic weather reports are passed from the meteorological office at Schonefeld Airport to a collecting centre at Prague, from where they are passed with other meteorological reports to another collection centre at Paris, from where they are transmitted to Bracknell for onward transmission to the London Airports. Synoptic weather reports for the London Airports also reach Schonefeld Airport by the reverse process.Under similar arrangements made by the International Civil Aviation Organisation, of which again East Germany is not a member, operational weather information for Schonefeld Airport is also passed to a collecting centre at Prague, from where it is transmitted to another collecting centre at Offenbach and then passed to the London Airports via a further collecting centre at Gatwick. Once again the reverse process also exists.

Royal United Services Institution (Cowley Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he has given to the Cowley Report on the future of the Royal United Services Institution; and what steps he will take to enable the Institution to carry out its work.

The Cowley Report on the future of the Royal United Services Institution was considered by the Committee on Higher Defence Studies whose recommendations my right hon. Friend has accepted. We are at present discussing with the R.U.S.I. how best it may be enabled to carry on its work.

Departmental Advertisements (Salary Scales)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why, in view of Her Majesty's Government's policy on a wages, salary and prices standstill, his Department are still advertising situations vacant at salary scales which are at present under review; and whether he will amend these advertisements to remove this misleading description of salary scales.

Because a few advertisements were published before they could be amended or cancelled. Steps have been taken to quote current salary scales in future.

Forces Pay (Prices And Incomes Policy)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent the Government's wages and salary standstill will apply to other ranks and officers in the Forces; and whether it will also apply to their annual and periodical increases.

Of course the policy announced in Command 3073 applies to the Forces to the full extent. The White Paper states that it is not intended to apply the standstill to the normal arrangements for increasing pay either with age or by regular increments of specified amounts within a predetermined range or scale.

Strategic Nuclear Deterrent Forces (Polaris Submarines)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether Great Britain's second strike nuclear retaliatory capacity is to become wholly dependent upon the Polaris submarines now under construction.

The Polaris submarines will provide, from the end of the decade, our contribution to the collectivised strategic nuclear deterrent forces of the West. No other weapon systems are being planned by the U.K. for this rôle.

British Goods

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, to conserve hard currency, he will instruct all those concerned in purchasing for the Forces at home and abroad to buy wherever possible goods of British manufacture, and order Service men to do this so far as their private purchases are concerned.

We naturally prefer to buy British goods and, in holding the balance between the need to reduce foreign exchange expenditure and to contain defence budgetary expenditure, we shall continue to judge cases as they arise in the light of the prevailing situation. Various means of encouraging British Service men abroad to buy more British goods are under active consideration.

Anglo-French Variable Geometry Project

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the Anglo-French variable geometry project remains both operationally and industrially the core of the Government's long-term aircraft programme.

P1127 Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what decision has been taken as a result of the recent economic measures on a reduction of the number of P1127 aircraft to be ordered for the Royal Air Force; and if he will make a statement.

No such decision has been taken. As regards the latter part of the Question, I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave on 3rd August to the right hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter).

Board Of Trade

Abbotsinch Airport (Near Collision)

105.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will publish the results of the proposed inquiry into the near collision over Abbotsinch Airport between a Comet jet and a Dove aircraft, both carrying passengers, in the interests of maintaining public confidence in the air control system at Glasgow Airport.

This incident is being thoroughly investigated under the procedure set out in paragraph 111 of the White Paper on Aviation Safety (Cmd. 1695 of April, 1962). It is not the practice to publish the results of such inquiries into Airmisses, because this might inhibit both the reporting of such incidents and the processes of investigation into their causes, and hence the prompt initiation of any necessary additional safeguards against repetition. I regret that I cannot depart from the normal rule in this case. I think I can say, however, that it appears to have been an isolated case which need cause no loss of confidence, by either the airlines or their passengers, in the very high standards of our air control system.

Boeing 747 Aircraft (Airport Facilities)

106.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he took to satisfy himself that proper landing and airport facilities would be available at international airports before permitting the purchase of the Boeing 747.

In making their assessments of new aircraft, B.O.A.C. take full account, as indeed do their competitors, of the airport facilities available and planned around the world. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Aviation has been assured that facilities will exist for the operation of B.O.A.C.'s Boeing 747's.

Fire, Auto And Marine Insurance Company

asked the President of the Board of Trade if, further to notices to policy holders of the Fire, Auto and Marine Insurance Company, he will make arrangements for no claims bonuses to be allowed in cases where, although a claim was originally made, the insured now has to meet the full costs.

Arms And Military Equipment (Exports To Spain)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the value of the ships, weapons and other goods classified as war-like materials which Her Majesty's Government has refused to supply to the Spanish Government.

It is not the normal practice to give information about exports of arms and military equipment, but on this occasion I can say that no licences have been refused.

Lancashire Textile Areas

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will implement the recommendations of the Lancashire and Merseyside Industrial Development Association, details of which have been sent to him, in particular the suggestion that full development area status be granted to the traditional Lancashire textile areas; and if he will make a statement.

No. The Lancashire textile areas are already given treatment suitable to their needs.

Stock Exchange (Rebuilding)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the economic situation and the Government's curb on unnecessary building, he will stop the rebuilding of the Stock Exchange.

An O.D.P. was granted in 1965 on the grounds that an alternative location was not possible. I have no power to withdraw the O.D.P., as it has already rendered the planning permission effective.

Third London Airport

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he has yet reached a firm decision on the location of London's third airport; if he will speed up plans for its development, in view of the increasing traffic at Heathrow and Gatwick; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

On the first part of my hon. Friend's Question I have nothing to add to the replies my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government gave to the hon. Member for Faversham (Mr. Boston) on 15th June and to the hon. Member for Saffron Walden (Mr. Keith) on 7th July.

I can assure my hon. Friend that I am fully alive to the urgency of making progress on the third London airport question. On present indications however Heathrow and Gatwick will together be able to cater for London's air traffic until the early 1970s.

Detergents (Monopolies Commission Report)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will now make a statement on the Report of the Monopolies Commission on the supply of household detergents.

The Report was published this morning. The Commission has found that the conditions to which the monopolies legislation applies prevail as respects the supply of household detergents. Unilever Limited and Procter & Gamble Limited each supplies more than one-third of all the household detergents supplied in the United Kingdom. The Commission also found that neither "monopoly" position, as such, operated against the public interest and that neither might be expected to do so. But it concluded that the policies pursued by both companies on advertising and promotion, and their price policies, operated and might be expected to operate against the public interest.Accordingly, the Monopolies Commission recommended that substantial percentage reductions, to be decided by the Board of Trade in consultation with Unilever and Procter & Gamble, should be made in their wholesale selling prices for household detergents; that at least 40 per per cent. reduction in selling expenses should accompany the price reduction; and that price consultations with the Companies might well begin on the basis of an average 20 per cent. reduction in price. For the longer term, the Commission recommended that the Board of Trade should consider the possibility of introducing some form of automatic sanction that would discourage excessive selling expenditure in the field of household detergents, and should also continue to keep a watch on prices.I am in general agreement with the Report and am entering into immediate discussions with the two Companies about the measures to be adopted in order to implement the recommendations that wholesale selling prices be reduced by 20 per cent. on average. On the Commission's longer term recommendation, while I shall continue to consider means of preventing excessive selling expenditure in the future, it will be open to the Government to refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes any increase in prices of household detergents which is thought to be unjustified.

Shipping

Collisions At Sea

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that, despite increasing use of radar, there are more collisions at sea every year; what proposals he will make to reduce the number of these collisions; and whether he will make a statement.

The statistics of collisions at sea during the last 20 years are inconclusive. Nevertheless, the Board attaches great importance to the proper use of radar and for some time now all candidates for a second mate's certificate of competency have been required to complete a suitable radar training course. There are still, however, masters at sea who have not received radar training, and the Board urged the shipping industry earlier this year to make arrangements to remedy this situation as soon as possible.The Board has also proposed that the present syllabus for radar training should be reviewed, and that candidates for a master's certificate should be required to have attended a radar training course more advanced than the one now required for second mates.The Board will be discussing these matters with the Chamber of Shipping, the Shipping Federation and the officers' associations in the near future.

National Finance

Income Tax (World Cup Team Bonus)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether he will give an undertaking that the bonus paid to the winning World Cup team will be treated as an isolated transaction and free from Income Tax.

Surtax (Surcharge)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he intends that the proposed 10 per cent. surcharge on Surtax for 1965–66 shall be payable by the personal representatives of taxpayers who died in that year.

No. The Income Tax Acts already provide that the Surtax on a person's income for the tax year in which he dies shall not exceed what it would have been if the income had been charged at the rates in force for the previous year.

Hospitals

Out-Patients (Waiting Time)

asked the Minister of Health what reports he has received in response to his circular H.M. (64) 102 regarding waiting time in out-patients departments; and if he is satisfied with the conditions revealed by these reports.

Nearly all the reports asked for have now been received and are being examined. They show that many hospital authorities have been able to reduce delays between referral and consultation, and waiting time on day of appointment. Progress in the building programme and better staffing where possible should bring further improvement. I am considering in the light of the reports what further action may be needed.

Ministry Of Health

Polio Victims (Transport)

asked the Minister of Health if, in the light of a recent police court case, details of which have been sent to him, he will seek to provide widowed polio victims who have small children with an invalid carriage capable of seating those children.

This is one of the matters to be considered in the current review of vehicles for the disabled.

Home Department

Crathorne Report (Recommendations)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will implement the recommendations of the Crathorne Report.

The Government's position in this matter remains as stated in the reply which I gave on 27th January to a Question by the hon. Member for Cardiff, North (Mr. E. Rowlands) The hon. Member may, however, have seen reports that a Private Member's Bill on Sunday entertainment and sport is to be introduced in another place later in this Session, and in accordance with their undertaking the Government are providing facilties for its drafting. As regards Sunday trading, I would refer to the reply given on 4th August to a Question by the hon. Member for Beckenham (Mr. Goodhart).

Traffic Wardens

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many additional traffic wardens will have to be employed to enforce parking regulations in the inner London area if parking meter schemes covering an area of 40 square miles are introduced as proposed by the Greater London Council

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many traffic wardens are at present employed to enforce parking regulations in London; and whether it has been possible to recruit adequate numbers of suitable candidates for such employment.

522 traffic wardens are at present employed in the Metropolitan Police District. This is 100 more than in April—due mainly to the opening of recruitment in Central London to women. The existing establishment is 631, and I hope that it will be possible to bring the strength up to this figure by the autumn.

Fireman Binns (Rescue Drills)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has yet received a report of the recent accident at Harrogate, Yorkshire, in which Fireman Binns suffered grave injuries while engaged in a live rescue drill; and whether, in view of the earlier loss of life suffered by the London Fire Brigade during similar drills, he will now make regulations requiring fire authorities to use dummies only in rescue drills of this kind.

I heard with regret of the accident to Fireman Binns. The Central Fire Brigades Advisory Council have recently had under consideration the question of live rescue drills, including the use of safety apparatus in such drills. I am at present considering what action should be taken in the light of the views expressed by the members of the Council.

Fire Brigade Drivers (Accidents)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the recent report of the Traffic Committee of the Central Conference of Chief Constables accepting that firemen drivers may proceed against traffic signals, ignore halt signs and pass traffic refuges on the wrong side but that in the event of an accident full responsibility for the legal consequences must rest upon the fireman, he will now seek to amend the law so as to remove this ambiguity.

It has long been accepted that some latitude is reasonable for drivers of emergency vehicles responding to urgent calls. The desirability of amending the law is being studied.

Police Court Witnesses (Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will standardise the amount of travel compensation for witnesses attending police courts.

The amounts payable in indictable cases are prescribed in the Witnesses' Allowances Regulations, 1966, and chief constables have been advised to take these regulations as a guide for the payment of expenses to prosecution witnesses in summary cases.

London Airport (Welfare Of Immigrants)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for improving arrangements for the welfare of immigrants arriving at London Airport.

Most people who arrive at London Airport pass quickly through the immigration control and are in no need of assistance; but there are a few passengers whose welfare presents special difficulties. For example, some passengers need help or comfort of a kind which is beyond the normal scope of the immigration service and could better be given by a voluntary organisation. I am therefore exploring with suitable organisations the possibility of establishing a voluntary welfare service.There are also occasions when a passenger has to wait while inquiries are made about his claim to admission. I propose to discuss with the High Commissions or Embassies of the countries mainly concerned whether there are ways in which they might help to elucidate claims where there is doubt about the facts.Anything we are able to do will, of course, be without prejudice to the appeal questions now being considered by the committee under Sir Roy Wilson's chairmanship.

Metropolitan Police Force

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will detail the percentage deficiency of uniformed beat and patrol constables in the various divisions of the Metropolitan Police force.

It is not in the public interest to publish details of the number of men available for beat duty, or other kinds of duty, in particular areas of the Metropolitan Police District. The appended table shows the total establishments and strengths of all divisions in the force, and the percentage deficiency in each case. The establishment figures include increases authorised last June.

METROPOLITAN POLICE
Area, Establishment and Strength of Divisions

Total number of Police as at 31st July, 1966

Division

Local Authority Areas

Establishment

Strength

Percentage Deficiency

ACity of Westminster (Part)1,05184519·6
BKensington and Chelsea82663623·0
CCity of Westminster (Part)98572426·5
DCity of Westminster (Part)1,01870530·7
ECamden1,03969333·3
FHammersmith64045528·9
GHackney72254224·9
HTower Hamlets95765731·3
JRedbridge1,17885427·5
Waltham Forest
Chigwell U.D. (Essex)
Waltham Holy Cross U.D. (Essex)
KBarking1,38697529·6
Havering
New Ham
LLambeth89767724·5
MSouthwark1,02874627·4
NIslingtontd75754828·9
PLewisham1,16683428·5
Bromley
QBrent1,02073727·7
Harrow
Bushey U. D. (Herts.)
RBexley97270927·1
Greenwich
SBarnet96268129·2
Potters Bar U.D. (Herts.)
Elstree R.D. (Herts.)
Aldenham Parish (Herts.)
THounslowl,22086728·9
Richmond-upon-Thames
Staines U.D. (Surrey)
Sunbury on Thames U.D. (Surrey)
VKingston-upon-Thames86162028·0
Merton
Esher U.D. (Surrey)
WWandsworth80658327·7
XEaling1,08875830·3
Hillingdon
YEnfield1,17579332·5
Haringey
Cheshunt U.D. (Herts.)
Northaw Parish (Herts.)
ZCroydon1,09179627·0
Sutton
Epsom and Ewell Borough (Surrey)
Banstead U.D. (Surrey)
TOTALS22,84516,43528·1

Housing

Rent Assessment Panel, Southampton

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what has been the total cost to date of renting, modifying, furnishing and equipping the office in South Western House, Southampton, for the rent assessment panel; what is the total annual cost of the staff who work there; and how many cases so far have been dealt with by the panel.

The figures are:£6,435.£15,140.Fifteen cases have been referred to the panel, 3 of which have been decided. Hearings have been fixed for 6 of the remainder.

Controlled Tenancies

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will estimate the present number of controlled dwellings in England and Wales and in Greater London, respectively.

I estimate that at the end of June, 1966, there were about 1¾ million controlled tenancies in England and Wales, of which about ⅓ million were in Greater London. A more precise estimate is not possible on the available data.

Unoccupied Unfit Houses

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) whether he will seek to amend Section 9 of the Housing Act, 1957, to ensure that local authorities require repair of an unfit house even though the house is not occupied;(2) whether he will send a circular to local authorities regarding the duty of medical officers of health to make official representations under section 157 of the Housing Act, 1957, in cases where an unfit house is not occupied.

Local authorities have a statutory duty to take action against unfit houses irrespective of whether they are occupied or vacant. My right hon. Friend is advised that the powers are wholly adequate in this respect and he has no evidence that authorities, or their medical officers of health, are failing to take the necessary action.

Local Government

Rates (Standstill)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if it is the Government's intention that local authorities should freeze the level of rates during the prices and incomes standstill, in order that ratepayers should receive the same protection as council-house tenants.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply yesterday to the hon. Member for Croydon, North-East (Mr. Weatherill).

Ministry Of Labour

Seamen (Wage Increase)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state under what statutory authority he recently prevented the seamen from having an increase in their wages; whether he will state what further wage increases he has prevented since 1st June, 1966; and under what authority.

During the recent seamen's strike, the Government stated that the proposals of the Court of Inquiry under Lord Pearson represented in the Government's view a fair settlement and that any further material improvement which was not covered by an improvement in productivity and efficiency would be damaging to the national interest. There was no suggestion that the Government's view had statutory force. With regard to the other parts of the Question, my hon. Friend will be aware of recent developments in the Government's policy on prices and incomes.

Food Manufacturing Industry (Wage Settlement)

asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware that a freely negotiated wage rise of 10s. per week for men and 8s. per week for women, affecting some 60,000 to 70,000 workers in the food manufacturing industry on basic rates of £10 7s. and £7 8s. per week, respectively, has been frozen; and if he will state under what statutory authority the Government has taken this action.

The operative date of the settlement in question, which was reached after publication of the White Paper: Prices and Incomes Standstill (command 3073) is 30th January, 1967. This was agreed by the parties. I am informing them that since this would mean giving effect to the settlement during the period of severe restraint, the settlement will, in the Government's view, have to be considered in the light of the stringent criteria which have yet to be determined for increases in incomes during this period.

Land And Natural Resources

Forestry Commission (Charges To Horsemen)

asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources whether he will instruct the Forestry Commission not to increase the charges to persons riding through their land during the period of the prices and wages standstill and not to impose during this period any new charge on riders where no charge is made today.

The Forestry Commission have told me that they have no intention of doing so.

Technology

National Research Development Corporation (Report)

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will arrange for the Seventeenth Report and Statement of Accounts of the National Research Development Corporation to be laid before the House.

I have arranged for the Report to be laid today in proof. Prints will be available on 18th of this month. Hon. Members will note that the period covered by the Report is nine months. This change follows revised procedures in the Corporation's financial arrangements provided for in the Development of Inventions Act, 1965.

Economic Affairs

Prices And Incomes (Standstill)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs by what authority the Government purported between 20th July and 1st August, 1966, to compel all concerned to abide by a wages, salaries, dividend and prices standstill.

In his statement on 20th July, the Prime Minister called for a standstill and made it plain that the Government intended to rely in the first instance on voluntary action.