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Volume 736: debated on Wednesday 16 November 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 16th November, 1966

Ministry Of Defence

Service Pay And Pensions (Prices And Incomes Standstill)

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an assurance that the last two year Service pay award under the Grigg formula is unaffected by the incomes standstill and the following period of severe incomes restraint.

The rates announced in the White Paper on Service Pay and Pensions (Command 2903) are not affected. In cases where the new rate had not been announced before 20th July, the provisions of the White Paper on Prices and Incomes Standstill (Command 3073) apply.

Married Quarters

8.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what special arrangements he is making to assist with the family housing problems of troops returning to this country.

This is being dealt with as a matter of urgency. The building of married quarters in the current programme is being hastened and the programme extended; more accommodation will be rented, and other short-term measures adopted where necessary.

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what arrangements he has made for the housing of Service families now in Aden when they return to Great Britain next year.

Planning is in hand. I would refer the hon. Member to my earlier Answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Southall (Mr. Bidwell).

Variable Geometry Aircraft

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Anglo-French swing-wing aircraft he is proposing to order for the Royal Air Force.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he proposes to confirm that the agreement with France to build a variable geometry ground strike aircraft will go ahead; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer to the reply I gave on 9th November to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall).—[Vol. 735, c. 289.]

F111 Aircraft

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he now expects the first delivery of F111A aircraft to be made to the Royal Air Force; and how many aircraft this will comprise.

The first F111 for the R.A.F. is scheduled for delivery at the end of 1968. The remainder of the first order for 10 aircraft are due to be delivered in the immediately following months.

68.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he agreed with the United States Defence Department on the costs of the F111A aircraft; and to what extent this agreement provides for the postponement of the contract during times when the British Government has financial difficulties.

February 1966. As regards the second part of the Question, the credit arrangements ensure that the burden on the British economy is kept low in the next few years.

British Forces, Gibraltar

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will stop any further cuts in Service establishments in Gibraltar.

It was made clear when the withdrawal of the Maritime Reconnaissance squadron was announced in July that no further cuts in our forces in Gibraltar were contemplated. That is still the position.

Jaguar Strike-Trainer Aircraft

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what assurances he has sought and received from the French Government that the production schedules of the Anglo-French Jaguar strike-trainer jet aircraft will be maintained, in view of recent attempts to delay it in the interests of French budgetary stringency.

Following the meeting of British and French Ministers on 7th November production plans are now being drawn up. Meanwhile the development programme is proceeding as planned.

British Forces, Thailand

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many British Service men are now in Thailand; what are their duties; and what plans he has to increase the numbers of the armed forces serving in Thailand.

About 500 British Service men are now in Thailand. Some 450 of them are engaged on the construction of the airfield at Loeng Nok Tha. There are also a signals team and a few individuals on attached duty. We have no plans for any increase.

British And German Soldiers, Wales (Incident)

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what disciplinary action or proceeding is intended to be taken in respect of the recent skirmish between British troops and German Panzer troops in Wales; what inquiry is being conducted into the incident; what action is being taken to prevent further such incidents; whether the German troops involved are claiming to be outside the jurisdiction of British courts by virtue of the Visiting Forces Act; and whether he will make a statement.

This was an isolated disturbance in a cafe on 26th October. The police found no evidence against the German soldiers, so the question of jurisdiction does not arise. Disciplinary action against some of the British soldiers has been taken.

Service Accommodation (Wales)

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether it is intended that accommodation in Wales now occupied and utilised by Germany panzer troops should be used in the future for British troops to be brought home from Germany.

Until the extent of any withdrawal is known, I cannot say what accommodation may be required.

Cancelled Military Contracts (Compensation)

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much has been paid in compensation for cancelled military contracts from October, 1964, to the present time.

Royal Navy (Discharge By Purchase)

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will reduce the period of service which a young man who has joined the Royal Navy at the age of 16 years has to complete before he can obtain his discharge by purchase by allowing the period between the ages of 16 and 18 years to count towards the total period which he is obliged to serve.

As I said during the debate on the Committee stage of the Armed Forces Bill, I have asked my Department to consider allowing time served before the age of 18 to count towards completion of the first engagement. If this change is made, such time will also count as part of the period of service which a rating must complete before he can obtain his discharge by purchase.

Holywood, County Down (Site)

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will order the planting of trees and shrubs to screen the unsightly nissen huts at the Kinnegar, Holywood, County Down, from the main roadway and from houses overlooking the Kinnegar.

Since the hon. Gentleman's Question to me on 27th April, I have had the camp site tidied and some painting done. I do not think that further measures of this kind would be practicable.—[Vol. 727, c. 675.]

Indian Ocean

64.

asked the Secretary of Defence if he will make a statement about plans for a chain of island bases in the Indian Ocean.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when defence facilities will be constructed by Her Majesty's Government on British Indian Ocean territory.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave today to my hon. Friend the Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell).

Brigade Of Gurkhas

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has now agreed the terms and conditions of service in the future of the officers and men of the Brigade of Gurkhas; and if he will make a statement.

Meteorological Office (Exceptional Weather Warnings)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what instruction he has given to the Meteorological Office for the issue of warnings to Press, radio and television, in the event of dangerous weather occurring, which was not necessarily forecast.

Warnings of exceptional weather are included in the routine forecasts issued through the Press, radio and television, which are brought up to date throughout the day. Special warnings may also be broadcast by arrangement with the B.B.C.

Polaris Submarines (Repair And Maintenance Costs)

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his estimate of the costs of repairs and maintenance to the Polaris submarines between 1966 to 1970.

Garrisons (Gibraltar And Hong Kong)

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give the relative strength of the troops garrisoning Gibraltar and Hong Kong, respectively; and what plans he has for altering these dispositions.

The relative strength is about one to ten and the relative population about one to one hundred. I am not prepared, at this stage, to divulge any plans for altering the garrison.

Naval Rating's Widow

70.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why the Admiralty ceased to have any interest in the widow of a naval rating, whose name has been forwarded to him by the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Hull, East, and whose husband died while serving in Malaya, after she was flown home with her three infant children and seen on the train for her home town; and why no naval welfare officer has visited this widow during the two months since she returned to this country.

A naval welfare worker met this lady at the airport, arranged for her to be specially cleared through Customs, took her across London, travelled with her to Hull and then took her to her parents home.The welfare worker visited her again next day when she had had a chance to get some rest and asked her what further help she needed. The lady replied that so far as she could see the naval authorities in Singapore had already done everything that was necessary.In case some unforseen need should arise, however, the welfare worker wrote down the address of the naval welfare people and urged the lady to write at once if she found she did need help. She has not done so.

71.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence for what period the Admiralty will continue to pay the full allotment of the widow of a naval rating, whose name has been forwarded to him by the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Hull, East, and whose husband died while serving in Malaya; and whether the widow will be entitled to a widow's pension and children's allowances for her three infant children from Greenwich Hospital funds.

A temporary allowance for widows is payable by my Ministry for the 13 weeks following the death of the husband, after which she becomes eligible for widow's benefit from the Ministry of Social Security. In this case, for the first two weeks while the widow remained in Singapore, the allowance was equal to the full overseas allotment which the husband was making at the time of his death. For the remaining 11 weeks, the allowance excludes those elements of the full overseas allotment which are appropriate only to service abroad.On the second part of the Question, Greenwich Hospital pensions are normally awarded to widows over the age of 65. In the case of a younger widow with children of or below school age, it is more usual to award allowances in respect of the children and I understand that this will be done.

Nuclear Submarines

72.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now state the causes of the cracks which have been found in nuclear submarines; and what progress is being made in eliminating them.

As I explained on 18th October, we are still investigating these defects, but it is already clear that a fundamental factor affecting the extent and propagation of the cracks is the presence of non-metallic inclusions in the high strength steel used in building these boats, which was first ordered in 1957. We are taking steps to deal with the cracks by buying a quantity of one of the latest types of American steel. Two British firms are also beginning to produce steel-plate to the standards which we now know to be necessary, and this will be used for our purposes as soon as it can be fully tested. These cracks are so small that they are only discernible by the most modern techniques of ultra-sonic testing. They represent an additional maintenance task, but they do not involve the crews of the boats in any degree of risk.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the British nuclear submarine programme.

The precise rate at which we shall go on building nuclear-powered fleet submarines has not yet been settled, but we plan to order a sixth boat early in the New Year.

American Forces, Great Britain (Foreign Exchange Cost)

73.

Bruce-Gardyne asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consultations he has had with the United States Government regarding the foreign exchange cost to the United States Treasury of United States troops in Great Britain.

None, recently. I suggested to the United States Government last January that expenditure by the United States forces in this country should be regarded, for balance of payments purposes, as generally offsetting the dollar cost to the United Kingdom of weapons already ordered, such as Polaris, the C 130 and the Phantom. They accepted this.

Military Hospitals

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many military hospitals there are in the country; how many beds there are therein; what is the average cost per bed per patient per week; what is the percentage of the beds in use on a weekly basis; and how the rates of nursing and professional staff compare with those in hospitals under the National Health Service.

Following is the information:

Number of hospitals—17.
Number of beds—3,570.
Average cost per bed—£60 per patient per week.
Beds in use—About 65 per cent. per week.
NOTE.

  • 1. Figures include all three Services.
  • 2. The rates of pay of Service nursing and professional staff are related to those of similar ranks in the Armed Forces.
  • British Forces, Brunei

    77.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much of the cost of maintaining British forces in Brunei is borne by the Government of the Sultan of Brunei and how much by Her Majesty's Government.

    The total cost of British forces stationed in Brunei is about £1·2 million a year. The Brunei Government contributes some £450,000 a year in cash and free supplies and in addition it has paid for works services to the value of about £1·4 million over the past three years.

    Defence Orders (Development Areas)

    76.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what directives he has given that purchases by his Department should be made as far as possible in areas of high unemployment.

    In common with other Government Departments, my Department follows the approved procedure which allows some preference to firms in development areas to enable them to obtain a fair share of orders placed. This procedure is now being applied to the new development areas introduced by the Development Areas Order 1966.

    Defence Sales Unit

    78.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what contracts and/ or sales have so far been initiated by the Government Arms Salesman.

    As I told the House on 25th May, in answer to a Question by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Mr. Powell), I intend to include a report on the activities of the defence sales unit in the annual Statement on the Defence Estimates. A progress report now would be both inappropriate and premature.—[Vol. 729, c. 98.]

    Hydrofoil Craft

    79.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence why he has not developed a hydrofoil craft for operation with the Royal Navy as is being done in foreign navies at the present time.

    I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North (Earl of Dalkeith) on 4th July.—[Vol. 731, c. 22.]

    South Africa (Arms Embargo)

    82.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what considerations he takes into account in deciding his policy about the supply of weapons and equipment to the South African Navy.

    The policy is as announced by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 17th November, 1964.—[Vol. 702, c. 199.]

    Chatham Dockyard (Nuclear Submarines)

    81.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give instructions for the next British nuclear submarine to be built in Chatham Dockyard, in view of its record in submarine construction and the need for keeping the construction team in operation.

    No, for the reasons given to the hon. Member on 27th October last year [Vol. 718, c. 59], and on 27th April [Vol. 727, c. 683–4], and 22nd June this year.—[Vol. 730, c. 63.]

    Meteorological Facilities (Bristol Airport)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what meteorological facilities are made available by the Government at Bristol Airport.

    At present the Bristol Corporation airport at Lulsgate has no meteorological office of its own, although air traffic control staff employed at the airport have been trained by the Meteorological Office as meteorological observers. Weather forecasts and warnings of hazardous conditions for aircraft using Bristol (Lulsgate) Airport are provided by the Meteorological Office, acting as agent to the Board of Trade, through the meteorological office at Glamorgan (Rhoose) Airport. The latter operates under the administrative and technical control of the main meteorological office at Gloucester, which provides these services during the hours of the night when forecasters are not on duty at Rhoose.

    Recruiting Campaigns (Commonwealth Countries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has for running recruiting campaigns in any Commonwealth country.

    I have no plans for running recruiting campaigns in any Commonwealth country. All Services, however, consider applicacations from Commonwealth citizens who first come to this country. In addition, individuals may apply to enlist into the Army through British units stationed in their countries; and the Royal Navy recruit in Malta for general service. Candidates from the Commonwealth may be accepted for officer cadetships or certain apprenticeships in all three Services.

    Us Navy Minesweepers (British Shipyards)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has made to the United States Government against their refusal to allow United Kingdom shipyards to bid for the building of four minesweepers for the United States Navy.

    I would refer to the answer I gave on 9th November to the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten).—Vol. 735, c. 290.]

    House Of Commons (Committee Rooms)

    40.

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will take steps to convert a committee room so that an appropriate range of maps and other visual aid devices is permanently available for the use of Members and visiting speakers.

    Committee Rooms are already fully used for Parliamentary purposes and are likely to be in ever greater demand. It would not, therefore, be possible to give up one of them for the purposes suggested.

    House Of Commons (Specialist Committees)

    asked the Lord President of the Council what provision has been made for the recruitment of staff for the proposed specialist committees of the House.

    The need to provide suitable staff for any specialist committees which the House might decide to set up is being borne in mind.

    Select Committees (Members Of The Public)

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he will move to refer to the Select Committee on Procedure the matter of allowing members of the public to be present at sittings of Select Committees.

    No doubt the Select Committee will have taken account of my hon. Friend's Question.

    Magistrates

    43.

    asked the Attorney-General if he will issue instructions that wherever possible training courses for potential magistrates should take place in the evenings.

    The responsibility for administering schemes of instruction for magistrates rests with local Magistrates' Courts Committees, which are composed of magistrates for the area concerned. These committees are in the best position to know the times which are suitable for their local magistrates to attend courses of instruction.

    44.

    asked the Attorney General what difficulties are being experienced in recruiting magistrates from among people in full-time employment; and what undertakings are sought from prospective magistrates concerning the amount of time that they will devote to their duties when appointed.

    No particular difficulties are experienced in recruiting magistrates from among people in full-time employment, apart from the obvious one that many of these persons are too busy to undertake any additional work.Candidates for appointment as Justices of the Peace are asked to give an undertaking that they will carry out a fair share of the magisterial duties. The extent of that varies from place to place; but my noble Friend the Lord Chancellor does not consider that a magistrate is carrying out his fair share of the work unless he normally attends his court at least once every two weeks.

    Offences Against The State (Prosecutions)

    46.

    asked the Attorney-General how many prosecutions have taken place for offences against the State in the course of the last year as a result of the Smith rebellion in Rhodesia.

    Recorderships (Members Of Parliament)

    47 and 48.

    asked the Attorney-General (1) whether he will publish in HANSARD the dates on which Members of the House were appointed to recorderships, and the salaries they receive; which Members still hold such positions; and how long after being elected to the House these Members were appointed to these positions;(2) why he appoints Members of Parliament to recorderships shortly after they have been elected; and, as these Members are active in day to day politics, if he will reduce the number of Members of Parliament appointed to these judicial positions, and eventually cease appointing them.

    MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE HOLDING RECORDERSHIPS
    NameFirst elected to ParliamentAppointed to RecordershipsAnnual RetainerDaily Fee
    ££
    S. Scholefield Allen, Q.C.1945194820025
    F. P. Crowder, Q.C.1950196010020
    C. J. A. Doughty, Q.C.1951195520025
    W. P. Grieve, Q.C.1964196520025
    The Rt. Hon. Sir John Hobson, O.B.E., Q.C.19571958NilNil
    A. J. Irvine, Q.C.1947196520025
    The Rt. Hon. Sir David. Renton, K.B.E., T.D., Q.C.1945196310020
    The Honourable Samuel Silkin, Q.C.1964196620025
    W. T. Wells, Q.C.1945196510020
    MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE WHO FORMERLY HELD A RECORDERSHIP BUT NO LONGER DO SO
    NameFirst elected to ParliamentAppointed to Recordership
    Sir John Foster, K.B.E., Q.C.19451936
    The Rt. Hon. Sir Elwyn Jones, Q.C.19451949
    The Rt. Hon. Selwyn Lloyd, C.H., C.B.E., Q.C19451948
    Niall MacDermot, Q.C.19571962
    The Rt. Hon. Sir Peter Rawlinson, Q.C.19551961

    Transport

    Travel Concessions

    84.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will take steps to implement a national policy on concessionary fares for all schoolchildren, in view of the older school-leaving age.

    These concessions are a matter for the transport undertakings concerned. Local authorities have however power to contribute towards the cost of travel concessions on municipal transport and have been asked for their views on the extension of these powers.

    106.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now make a further statement on the question of travel concessions for non-municipal bus operators.

    The details given below for which my hon. Friend asks show that Members of Parliament have not been appointed to Recorder-ships shortly after election to Parliament. Recorders, including those who are Members of Parliament, are of course appointed on merit and membership of this House should be no disqualification. I myself do not appoint Recorders. A Member of Parliament would not be appointed Recorder of a borough any part of which was within his constituency.

    111.

    asked the Minister of Transport when she will make an announcement with regard to the extension of concessionary fares for pensioners and others.

    I would refer to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, North-West (Mr. Ellis) on 9th November.—[Vol. 735, c. 296.]

    Minister Of Transport (Visit To America)

    91.

    asked the Minister of Transport what was the cost to public funds of the officials and party that accompanied her on her recent visit to the United States of America; and whether she will make a statement.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for West Ham, North (Mr. Arthur Lewis) and to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) on 2nd November, 1966.—[Vol. 735, c. 117.]

    Motor Vehicles (Insurance Certificates)

    92.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will now introduce legislation to require a motor vehicle to display a current insurance certificate in the manner now required for a motor vehicle licence.

    No. There are wide variations in the conditions under which insurance is effective. Display of a simple certificate would be no guarantee that the vehicle was properly insured for the use to which it was put at any given time.

    Hoverports

    97.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she will ensure that any hoverports, like the one planned at Pegwell Bay, Kent, that may be built for international routes allow all operators to use the facilities on equal terms, or at least that any British operator is not at a disadvantage.

    The Government are at present examining what controls are required in respect of the siting and operation of hoverports and hovercraft services.

    Private Cars (Central London)

    98.

    asked the Minister of Transport to what extent she will recognise priorities between different sections of the community in her plans to control private car traffic in Central London.

    I know of no plans, for London or elsewhere, for control other than by existing traffic management methods, though the practicability of other methods is being studied. In London specific traffic management and parking schemes are matters for the Greater London Council, the boroughs or the City as appropriate. It is for them, when devising schemes, to take account of the matters referred to in my hon. Friend's Question.

    Motor Cycle Accidents

    99.

    asked the Minister of Transport how many persons under the age of 20 years were killed whilst riding motor cycles in the year 1965; and if she will give separate figures for the different engine capacities of motor cycles.

    598 (including 116 passengers). The accident reports do not record engine capacities, but the total comprised five on mopeds, 100 on motor scooters and 493 on motor cycles.

    Joint Parliamentary Secretary (Overseas Visit)

    103.

    asked the Minister of Transport what was the cost to public funds of the official visit abroad of the Joint Parliamentary Secretary to her Department, the hon. Member for New-castle-under-Lyme, on 25th and 26th October.

    Traffic (Brentwood)

    105.

    asked the Minister of Transport in view of the concern in the Brentwood area arising from her recent statement, if she will now visit the area to assess the traffic flow.

    No. A short personal visit would be no substitute for the thorough traffic survey my right hon. Friend has announced.

    Written-Off Motor Vehicles (Resale)

    108.

    asked the Minister of Transport what estimates she has of the number of cars written-off as a total loss by insurance companies which subsequently find their way back on to the road; and if she will take steps to prevent such cars being cannibalised and then offered for resale without an indication being given of the fact that they have been involved in a serious accident.

    I am unable to give an estimate and have no evidence at present that the number of such vehicles is substantial.The insurance companies have agreed in principle to send to the taxation offices the registration book of any seriously damaged vehicle sold as scrap for which they have settled a claim on the basis of total loss so that the book may be over-stamped to that effect. The many practical difficulties involved are still the subject of discussion.

    Cmnd No 3057 (Circulars)

    113.

    asked the Minister of Transport how many private persons, companies and other public bodies have been sent circulars requesting their views on the inland waterways section of the Transport Policy White Paper, Command Paper No. 3057; how many have replied; and on what dates the circulars were sent out.

    Over the last month, letters have been sent to 281 local authorities, 16 national bodies and other representative organisations and 50 boat clubs; replies are being received daily. Consultations will shortly take place with the Economic Planning Councils and the Regional Sports Councils are being approached through the Department of Education and Science. A few other bodies will be approached in the very near future.In her Press Statement of 18th October my right hon. Friend invited individuals or organisations to write to the Ministry of Transport before the end of the year. At 15th November, 66 replies had been received in response to this general invitation.

    Bus Services (Wales And Monmouthshire)

    asked the Minister of Transport how many bus services have ceased to function or have been curtailed in Wales since 1964; and how many new services have commenced.

    Between 1st January, 1964, and 31st October, 1966, 226 stage bus services were withdrawn in Wales and Monmouthshire and 117 new ones were introduced. Figures for curtailed services are not readily available and could not be provided except at disproportionate cost to public funds.

    Learner Motor Cyclists (Working Parry's Report)

    asked the Minister of Transport when she will publish the report by the Working Pary appointed in 1963 to make recommendations for expansion of the Royal Automobile Club-Auto Cycle Union training scheme for learner motor cyclists.

    It is my intention to publish this report. It has substantial financial implications which need to be studied in the light of the present economic situation and in the context of the new long-term plan for reducing road accidents which, as stated in the White Paper on Transport Policy, I am now formulating.

    Motoring Events (Minister's Powers)

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will now announce the membership of the committee which will advise on the continuing exercise of her powers for regulating motor events on the public highway.

    My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales and I have appointed the following persons to serve on this committee under the chairmanship of my noble Friend Lord Lindgren:Mr. G. Bowden, Rural District Councils Association.Mr. F. A. Butters, M.I.P.R., A.M.I.P.A., County Councils Association.Mr. D. M. G. Chidson, M.C., Caravan Club.Mr. J. A. H. Gott, G.M., M.B.E., B.A., Chief Constable, Northamptonshire.The Rt. Hon. the Earl Howe, C.B.E., D.L., J.P., Royal Automobile Club.Mr. D. Johns.Mr. T. McCallum, Chief Constable, Berwick, Roxburgh & Selkirk.Mr. J. McNulty, Auto Cycle Union.Mr. R. C. Monteath, C.B.E., Association of County Councils in Scotland.Alderman O. J. Norris, Association of Municipal Corporations.Mr. M. V. Osmond, M.A., Council for the Preservation of Rural England.Mr. D. Paling.Major R. Tennant-Reid, M.C., Royal Scottish Automobile Club.Mr. R. G. V. Venables.Mr. L. Williams, F.C.C.S., Urban District Councils Association.Mr. J. R. B. Ferguson, National Parks Commission (Assessor).Mr. P. J. Hosegood, Welsh Office (Assessor).Mr. L. Jobson, Scottish Development Department (Assessor).Mr. T. G. Usborne, Ministry of Transport (Assessor).Miss J. E. Chamberlain, M.B.E., Ministry of Transport (Secretary).

    Regional Planning Staff (Training)

    asked the Minister of Transport what she is doing to encourage the trailing of regional planning staff.

    Regional planning of transport involves co-operation between people with different professional skills, including highway engineers. Some central training courses have been arranged on the purely regional aspects of planning.

    Vehicle Excise Duty (Evasion)

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will express the loss in revenue of evasion of paying road fund licence duty in terms of the extra weekly cost to those who do make payment for their licences.

    Roads

    Road Bridges (Darrington, Rawcliffe And Thorne)

    87.

    asked the Minister of Transport when work will start on the footbridge at Darrington over trunk Road A1, the new bridge at Rawcliffe, and the improvements to the swing bridge on the A614 at Thorne; and what are the reasons for the delays.

    There have been difficulties in obtaining the land for the footbridge at Darrington. My right hon. Friend intends to publish a compulsory purchase order shortly. I cannot at this stage forecast when work will start.The new bridge at Rawcliffe is a West Riding County Council scheme. Questions of design and the amount of grant payable have caused some delay, but are now settled, and work is expected to begin early in the New Year.At Thorne a series of difficulties over design and tenders has delayed conversion of the swing-bridge gates to power operation. Until they are resolved, I cannot say when work will begin.

    Thorne By-Pass And Humberside Link

    88.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether detailed maps are now available showing the route of the Thorne by-pass and the link with Humberside.

    No. My right hon. Friend has still to decide on the line of these routes.

    "School Entrance" Marking

    89.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will define the purpose of the school entrance box markings on roads outside certain schools.

    The object of the "School Entrance" marking as defined in the Traffic Signs Regulations 1964, is to indicate to drivers the part of the carriageway outside a school entrance which should be kept clear of stationary vehicles.

    Great North Road (Accidents)

    90.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the dangerous character of the Great North Road at Little Paxton where there have been a number of serious accidents in recent months; and what steps she proposes to take in the interest of road safety on this stretch of road pending the building of dual carriageway.

    Yes, but the considerable reduction in the number of accidents occurring this year compared with 1965 suggests that the measures already taken are being effective.

    Bristol Parkway

    95.

    asked the Minister of Transport what is being done by her Department to hasten the statutory procedures required of Gloucestershire County Council and Bristol City Council before building of the Bristol Parkway can commence.

    This is a Classified Road Motorway.The Department is advising the Councils on the most expeditious way to present the necessary Orders for my right hon. Friend's confirmation. Until they have been advertised and the objection period has expired there is little further we can do.

    Curzon Street, Calne Diversion Order 1966

    100.

    asked the Minister of Transport when the road improvements, comprised in the Curzon Street, Calne, Diversion Order 1966 will be completed.

    I hope work will start next spring. It should take six months to complete.

    B4039 (Traffic)

    101.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the serious traffic conditions of the B4039 which have developed since the opening of the Severn Bridge; and what steps she is taking to remedy the position.

    Yes. My right hon. Friend has arranged for the earliest possible completion of the section of M4 eastwards to Tormarton and it should be in use by mid-December. This, coupled with route signs on A46 and A420, should reduce the amount of motorway traffic now using B4039.

    Meole Broce Oteley Island

    102.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware that the new traffic islands and lights have resulted in a slowing up of the flow of traffic at the Meole Broce Oteley Island; and what action she proposes to take.

    No. Inquiries show that the new system has improved traffic flow. But we are having a careful study made to see if it can be improved still further.

    Rock Ferry By-Pass, Birkenhead

    107.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she will make a statement about the future of the Rock Ferry by-pass, Birkenhead.

    In view of the recent planning decision, the possibility of an alternative line for the road is being examined by the highway authority.

    Tonbridge By-Pass

    112.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will estimate what percentage of the traffic through Ton-bridge High Street is likely to be diverted from Tonbridge once the Tonbridge bypass is completed.

    A650 (Footbridge)

    104.

    asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made with the planning for a suspension footbridge on the A650 over the river adjacent to Cottingley Bar Bridge in the urban district of Bingley; when it is expected that the work will be commenced; and upon what date completion can be expected.

    Plans for the footbridge are being prepared, but we cannot yet say when work will commence or be completed. I will write to the hon. Member.

    M11

    114.

    asked the Minister of Transport what consideration she has given to the representations of the Bishop's Stortford Urban District Council in regard to the M11; when it is proposed to start work on this motorway; and whether such work will start at the northern end, in order to provide by-pass facilities for Bishop's Stortford at the earliest possible date.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to publish this year a draft scheme for the M11 which takes account of the representations of the Bishop's Stortford Urban District Council that the motorway should be extended northwards to Stump Cross. The start of work and the construction programme will depend on the progress made with the statutory processes, including acquisition of land.

    Conventions On Road Signs And Signals And Road Traffic

    asked the Minister of Transport if the proposals for revision of the United Nations Protocol on Road Signs and Signals includes recommendation for reflectorisation of road markings; and whether she will propose amendments to bring them into accord with the regulations in force in this country.

    The new draft Convention on Road Signs and Signals, which, if accepted, will replace the 1949 Protocol, contains general provisions for the use of reflecting materials for all types of road signs. However, in the chapter on road markings there is no specific reference to the need for reflectorised lines and an amendment to this effect will be proposed.

    asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made on the revision of the United Nations Convention of Road Traffic and the Protocol on Road Signs and Signals signed at Geneva in 1949.

    New draft conventions on Road Traffic and on Road Signs and Signals, which, if accepted, will replace the 1949 Convention on Road Traffic and Protocol on Road Signs and Signals, are at present under consideration by the United Nations regional economic commissions who have been asked to submit their reports by the end of this year.An international conference will be held in Vienna in March 1968 in order to consider the new draft conventions in the light of comments by regional economic commissions.

    European Highway Code

    asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made by the European Conference of Ministers of Transport on the preparation of a European Highway Code.

    The Conference proposes to reconsider the question of the drafting of a European Highway Code. But, in our view, this would be best done after the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations has concluded its current studies of a possible new World Convention on Road Traffic.

    M6 (Thelwell Viaduct Incident)

    asked the Minister of Transport what consideration she has given the circumstances of the incident on 7th October 1966 on the Thelwell Viaduct on the M6 at Warrington, Lancashire, when a 17-year-old Coventry youth lost his life; and what proposals she has to prevent a recurrence of such an incident.

    In this incident the youth left a northbound coach which had stopped on the deceleration lane to the A57 following a collision, and walked back on to the viaduct, which has a 3 ft. 9 in. steel parapet protected by a separate 2 ft. 3 in. safety fence. The youth stepped over the parapet, fell into the River Mersey and was drowned. In present designs the parapet and safety fence are combined in one barrier. Un-climbable parapets would be costly and unsightly; a substantial steel parapet should be sufficient warning and we have no proposals at present for amending the design.

    Reflective Safety Plate (Report)

    asked the Minister of Transport when the report from the Road Research Laboratory on the results of its two-year tests on the reflective safety plate will be published.

    Railways

    Freight Depots (Closure)

    96.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether she will introduce legislation to amend the Transport Act 1962 to give her the same powers with regard to the closure of British Railways freight depots as she has over the closure of passenger stations, in order to halt the curtailment of public service that is taking place in the field of freight deliveries.

    I have no evidence to suggest that in general the freight rationalisation policy of the Railways Board has led to unjustifiable curtailment of the freight services available to the public.

    Railway Premises (Sale Of Newspapers, Etc)

    109.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to British Railways not to grant any further licences for the sale of newspapers, periodicals and books to particular organisations on their property, until an inquiry has been conducted into the arbitrary censorship conducted by these organisations.

    British Transport Hotels (Selective Employment Tax)

    110.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will issue a general direction, in the public interest, to British Railways, to reduce charges attributable to the Selective Employment Tax in the hotels under their control.

    No. As I said in my Answer on 3rd November to a previous Question by my right hon. Friend, the overall yield of the surcharge is within the acceptable limits of Government policy.British Transport Hotels tell us that they are keeping their charges under review.—[Vol. 735, c.

    154.]

    Electrification (Wales)

    asked the Minister of Transport what plans the British Railways Board have to electrify lines in Wales; and what sanction she has given for capital investment for this purpose.

    Ministry Of Aviation

    Electronic Equipment (American Orders)

    115.

    asked the Minister of Aviation when orders were received from the United States Defence Department for the two items of aircraft electronic equipment for which bids were under examination in July.

    Of the two bids mentioned by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence in reply to Questions by the hon. Members for Cheltenham (Mr. Dodds-Parker) and Beckenham (Mr. Goodhart) on 3rd August last, one has been decided in favour of the British contractor and the contract placed. The other is still being evaluated by the U.S. Authorities.—[Vol. 733, c. 446–8.]

    Jaguar Strike-Trainer Aircraft

    116.

    asked the Minister of Aviation what effect the decision of the Dutch defence ministry not to purchase the Anglo-French Jaguar strike-trainer jet will have on that aircraft's price and future production; and whether he will make a statement.

    The provisional Dutch decision will not affect production plans for the aircraft, nor the price we expect to pay.But, of course, export orders for the Jaguar will be very welcome.

    Seacat Missiles (Exports)

    117.

    asked the Minister of Aviation which countries have made inquiries about the purchase of Seacat missiles; and to which countries these are being supplied.

    Seacat has been purchased by seven overseas navies. There are good prospects of further exports being achieved and a large number of countries have made inquiries on a confidential basis about the purchase of Seacat.

    Telephone Service

    Private Or Municipal Enterprise

    118.

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he will seek power to transfer the telephone service, or parts of it, to private or municipal enterprise.

    I already have such powers, but I do not think that the separation of parts of the service into a number of independent authorities would be conducive to a satisfactory or economic service.

    Post Office

    "Buy British" Postmark

    119.

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he will institute a "Buy British" postmark.

    No. But the Government welcome all efforts by industry to promote sales of British products where they are in competition with foreign imports.

    Books Of Stamps (Out-Of-Date Information)

    122.

    asked the Postmaster-General if he is aware that books of stamps are being sold at some post offices without the amendment slip containing the new postage rates which came into operation on 3rd October; and if he will issue instructions to remedy this omission.

    I am aware that some books of stamps containing out-of-date information about postage rates have been sold, but this is no longer happening. Posters and leaflets currently on display in all our post offices draw attention to the new rates. There can be no question of not applying the new rates which came into force on 3rd October.

    asked the Postmaster-General if, in view of the fact that books of stamps are being sold at some post offices without the slips containing the new postal charges, he will refrain from collecting from the recipient a charge of twice the deficiency, especially in the case of letters whose destination is abroad.

    I am aware that some books of stamps containing out-of-date information about postage rates have been sold, but this is no longer happening. Posters and leaflets currently on display in all our post offices draw attention to the new rates. There can be no question of not applying the new rates which came into force on 3rd October.

    Post Office Forms (Welsh Language)

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will cause to be exhibited in each post office in Wales a notice giving a list of Post Office forms of which Welsh translations are available therein.

    The only form in the Welsh language held at post offices in Wales is the Ministry of Transport form used for making application for the renewal of a motor vehicle licence. This form is available to the public at those post offices in Wales where the English version is held and I do not think that further action is necessary to bring it to notice.

    Stamp Issues (Wales)

    asked the Postmaster-General how many stamp issues relating to Wales have been made since 1945; and if he will give particulars.

    Five stamp issues, comprising 10 stamps, relating to Wales have been made since 1945. They are as follows:

    Permanent Series

    23/9/55–5s. Caernarvon Castle.

    Welsh Stamps in Regional Series

    18/8/58–3d.

    29/9/58–6d., 1s. 3d.

    7/2/66–4d.

    Special and Pictorial Issues

    18/7/58—British Empire and Commonwealth Games, 3d., 6d., 1s. 3d. Held at Cardiff. Welsh Dragon featured prominently in all three designs.

    1/7/64–20th International Geographical Congress, 8d.—Snowdonia.

    2/5/66—Pictorial, 1s. 3d.—Harlech Castle.

    In addition I have already announced that I shall be issuing Regional stamps in the 9d. and 1s. 6d. denominations. I hope to do this shortly.

    asked the Postmaster-General if any stamp in the Welsh language has been issued by his Department since 1939.

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will cause to be issued in October 1967 a stamp in the Welsh language commemorating the 400th anniversary of the translation of the New Testament into Welsh.

    No. I had over 60 suggestions for subjects for next year's special stamp issues and, inevitably, many worthy ones, including one to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the translation of the New Testament into Welsh, had to be omitted.

    asked the Postmaster-General how many of the 47 special stamp issues comprising 139 stamps have commemorated outstanding Welsh features.

    Two. In addition three stamps commemorating the VI British Empire and Commonwealth Games issued in July, 1958 featured the Welsh Dragon. Of the remaining 134 stamps 119 were not specific to one country.

    Wireless And Television

    Licences

    121.

    asked the Postmaster-General whether any proportion of a television or radio licence is refunded if the holder surrenders the licence before its period has expired because he no longer intends or is no longer able to use a television or radio; and whether such refunds are made in the case of car radio licences.

    No, sir. With 16 million licences in force it would add substantially to the cost of collection if I were to vary the fee according to the extent to which the licence was used. The increased cost and the loss of revenue would have to be made good by an increase in licence fees.

    123.

    asked the Postmaster-General what action he proposes to take to secure payment of television and wireless licences.

    124.

    asked the Postmaster-General what steps he has taken to ensure that all purchasers of television sets have a licence.

    I am tightening my Department's procedures for enforcing the licensing of broadcast receiving sets. But these measures will not be enough, and I am therefore discussing with the various trade associations concerned ways of enlisting their members' help. I am also considering a sharp increase in the maximum fines which the Courts may impose.

    Television Reception (Charmouth)

    asked the Postmaster-General whether he will take steps to improve television reception in the Charmouth area of Dorset.

    Measures to improve the reception and extend the coverage of the television services are primarily the responsibility of the broadcasting authorities themselves. I am sure that both the B.B.C. and the I.T.A. will be glad to let the hon. Member know why satisfactory reception in this area of their services is difficult; and what, if any, steps they can take to improve it.

    Scotland

    Recreational Facilities

    125.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what legislative action he proposes to take to provide the

    GRANTS AND SUBSIDIES AVAILABLE TO FARMERS IN SCOTLAND
    Description1960–611961–621962–631963–641964–651965–66 (provisional)
    £'000£'000£'000£'000£'000£'000
    I. Farming Grants and Subsidies
    General Fertilisers Subsidy (towards the cost of nitrogenous and phosphatic fertilisers)5,6815,0245,1755,0174,6884,519
    Lime Subsidy (towards acquiring, transport and spreading of lime)2,1121,9152,2852,0082,2011,975
    Grants for Ploughing up Grassland (for ploughing up of grass at least three years' old)2,5482,5132,4052,4671,7031,692
    Grassland Renovation Grants*22
    Field Drainage Grants (50 per cent. of cost of approved works)225239268247320327

    Forestry Commission with the necessary powers to spend money on the provision of recreational facilities for the general public.

    I am considering whether it is necessary to make any special provision for this in legislation dealing with the countryside in Scotland.

    Inverness Prison (Segregation Unit)

    126.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether work on the segregation unit at Inverness Prison is proceeding; and if he will make a statement.

    The first stage of alterations providing 20 places in a segregation unit at Inverness Prison has been completed. A second stage to give accommodation for a further 20 prisoners, together with extended workshops and recreational space, should be completed early in 1968.

    Beauly Firth (Overfishing)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what reports he has had of overfishing in the Beauly Firth to the extent of endangering the man and ships so employed; and if he will make a statement.

    Farming Grants And Subsidies

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of all grants and subsidies available to farmers, and the sums paid under each for the years 1960 to 1965, inclusive.

    Description

    1960–61

    1961–62

    1962–63

    1963–64

    1964–65

    1965–66 (provisional)

    £'000

    £'000

    £'000

    £'000

    £'000

    £'000

    Water Supply Grants (50 per cent. of approved works)13012813012011293
    Grants for Improvement of Livestock Rearing Land" (50 per cent. of approved costs of comprehensive improvement schemes)505570508549550493
    Winter Keep Grants (acreage payments for growing specified crops on livestock rearing units and supplement to hill sheep subsidy)1,2881,537
    Marginal Production Assistance Grants*8057657016807
    Grants for Bracken Destruction (50 per cent. of approved cost)101010998
    Silo Subsidies* (payments at prescribed rates up to a maximum of £250)756665594931
    Attested Herds (Bonus Payments)*809556312142471
    Grants for Improvement of Livestock Breeding: (Grants for bulls, rams and Shetland ponies and milk recording).998769
    Calf Subsidy (payments to encourage the rearing of cattle for beef production)3,4143,3273,5233,6293,9804,454
    Hill Cattle Subsidy (payments to encourage the keeping of regular breeding herds of cattle on livestock rearing land)2,3052,5112,6702,7592,9313,407
    Hill Sheep Subsidy (payments to encourage the maintenance of foundation flocks of hardy hill sheep)3594207261,2083,0182,185
    Grants to Agricultural Producers in the Scottish Islands (contributions towards cost of phosphatic fertilisers)273235362213
    Grants for Farm Improvements (up to 33⅓ per cent. of cost of long-term improvements)8441,2541,3191,4201,6001,618
    Grants to Rabbit Clearance Societies (50 per cent. of approved expenditure in destroying rabbits, wood pigeons, crows)334146515356
    Grants to Small Farmers (for improving the profitability of small farm businesses)270290390350330367
    Grants to Machinery Syndicates (33⅓ per cent. of cost of buildings for storing grain and housing machinery)3121
    Total (I)20,16119,67020,57920,75922,91822,788

    * No new applications accepted under these Schemes.

    Beef cow subsidy (£6 10s. payable on cows producing beef calves) Farm Business Records Grants (up to £100 per annum for three years to encourage the keeping of farm records.Payments under these Schemes will commence in the financial year 1966–67.

    II. Implementation of Agricultural Price Guarantees
    Cereal Deficiency Payments Scheme:
    Wheat and rye9651,2238721,411677655
    Barley2,5032,6523,1473,1653,4102,192
    Oats and mixed corn3,6785,8883,7893,6973,9072,947
    Fatstock Guarantee Scheme:
    Cattle2,3588, 2866,0967,7391, 998974
    Sheep2,9916,1153,9152,8471,1641,160
    Pigs1,1971,9582,6781,3561,6292,082
    Milk4,0394,4723,2803,4002,5043,271
    Eggs (estimated apportionment of U.K. figures)1,6001,1001,4001,2002,1001,200
    Potatoes (estimated apportionment of U.K. figures)8601,000404060750
    Wool (estimated apportionment of U.K. figures)705800820150580960
    TOTAL (II)20,89633,49426,03725,00518,02916,191

    Hospital Endowments (Review)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will review the distribution of hospital endowment funds in Scotland.

    In its report published in 1955, the Hospital Endowments Commission recommended that a review of the distribution of these funds might, with advantage, be undertaken in the light of ten years' experience of the working of their schemes.In accordance with this recommendation I have decided to set up a working party with the following terms of reference:

    "To review the allocation of endowments transferred to boards of management at the appointed day under section 7(2) of the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1947 on the basis of the principles laid down in the Report of the Hospital Endowments Commission having regard to:
  • (1) changes in the location and numbers of hospital beds;
  • (2) current standards of care and amenity for patients in mental and mental deficiency hospitals;
  • (3) the needs of research; and
  • (4) investment opportunities and changes in the value of money; and to make recommendations to the Secretary of State as to whether amending schemes should be framed under section 8 of the said Act and if so, in what terms."
  • I am most grateful to the following people who have agreed to serve on this working party:

    Chairman:

    Professor Robert Browning, C.B.E., C.A.

    Members:

    A. M. Donnett, Esq.

    J. A. R. Falconer, Esq., C.A.

    Professor G. L. Montgomery, C.B.E., T.D., M.D.

    R. W. Paton, Esq.

    Professor P. G. Stein.

    S. Stevenson, Esq.

    The Secretary of the working party will be W. P. Lawrie, Esq., Scottish Home and Health Department, St. Andrew's House, Edinburgh.

    South Arabia (Aid)

    127.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what discussions he will be holding in the next 12 months with the Federation of South Arabia about military aid after independence.

    I do not expect that further talks on this subject will be required in the next twelve months, as the pattern of British financial aid to the Federal forces was worked out in considerable detail in talks last June.

    Aden (Mr Bowen's Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has yet received Mr. Bowen's report on Aden; and when he will make a statement to the House.

    Mr. Bowen has now submitted his report. It is a most valuable report and includes a number of recommendations for improvements in our procedures, which I am studying in consultation with the High Commissioner.As I promised the House on the 14th of November, in reply to the hon. Gentleman the Member for Surbiton, I am also considering the question of the publication of the report and will make a further statement next week.

    Home Department

    George Blake

    128.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prison officers were on duty in D Wing at Wormwood Scrubs Prison at the time when George Blake made his escape.

    129.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners were accommodated in D Wing at Wormwood Scrubs Prison at the time when George Blake made his escape.

    Obscene Publications Act

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in the light of the comments made by the Romford magistrates when dismissing the prosecution brought by the police against A & B.C. Chewing Gum Limited under the Obscene Publications Act on 13th September last, he will introduce legislation so as to widen the scope of this Act in order to make it an offence to publish picture cards of this type to children.

    Murders

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many murders are known to the police in 1966 to the latest convenient date; and what were the corresponding figures for the same period for each of the preceding five years, using the term murder to cover the same crimes for the whole period.

    As my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State indicated in reply to a Question by the hon. Member on 19th May, the corrected murder figures are normally published for complete years only, and these are the murder figures used as the basis of comparison between different years. I hope to be able to give the 1966 figures next May.—[Vol. 728, c. 292.]

    Board Of Trade

    British Territorial Waters (Oil Pollution)

    130.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware of the steps recently taken by Shell and other oil companies to avoid sea pollution by oil and of the new load on top system for that avoidance, details of which have been sent to him; and if he will take steps to ensure that all ships using British sea routes and ports shall be obliged by law to avoid polluting British seas and beaches by oil discharges.

    Yes. Under the Oil Navigable Waters Act, 1955, it is an offence to discharge oil from ships, with certain minor exceptions, within British territoral waters.

    Standard International Trade Classification

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) for how many of those positions in the Standard International Trade Classification for which both the notional consolidated Common External Tariff of the European Economic Community and the tariff schedule of the United Kingdom are at ad valorem rates and where the United Kingdom tariff is the greater, the difference is, respectively, less than 5 per cent. on the value of the goods, between 6 per cent. and 10 per cent., between 11 per cent. and 20 per cent., and greater than 20 per cent.;(2) what estimate has been made of the differences between the notional consolidated Common External Tariff of the European Economic Community and the tariff schedule of the United Kingdom for positions in the Standard International Trade Classification for which one or both apply a specific tariff; and for how many of these positions the incidence of the United Kingdom tariff is, respectively, the same as, higher than, or lower than that of the European Economic Community;(3) for how many of those positions in the Standard International Trade Classification for which both the notional consolidated Common External Tariff of the European Economic Community and the tariff schedule of the United Kingdom are at ad valorem rates and where the European Economic Community tariff is the greater, the difference is, respectively, less than 5 per cent. on the value of the goods, between 6 per cent. and 10 per cent., between 11 per cent. and 20 per cent., and greater than 20 per cent.;(4) for how many of those positions in the Standard International Trade Classification for which both the notional consolidated Common External Tariff of the European Economic Community and the tariff schedule of the United Kingdom are at ad valorem rates, the tariffs of the United Kingdom are, respectively, the same as, higher than, or lower than those of the European Economic Community;(5) for how many positions in the Standard International Trade Classification the European Economic Community and the United Kingdom apply ad valorem and specific import tariffs, respectively;(6) what, respectively, are the arithmetical and import weighted averages of the tariff schedules of the United Kingdom and the United States of America and the notional consolidated Common External Tariff of the European Economic Community;(7) for how many positions in the standard International Trade Classification the tariffs of the United Kingdom and the United States of America and the notional consolidated Common External Tariff of the European Economic Community, respectively, are less than 10 per cent., between 11 per cent. and 20 per cent., between 20 per cent. and 30 per cent., and over 30 per cent.

    Advance Factories

    asked the President of the Board of Trade to what extent when he is considering the location of advance factories the presence of a high rate of depopulation in any area is in any particular case considered as a factor of equal significance with the rate of unemployment as a criterion material to a decision.

    The power to consider population changes and migration as factors influencing the exercise of my functions under the Local Employment Acts was only given to me as recently as the 19th August, 1966, by Section 15(3) of the Industrial Development Act, 1966. These factors will be given such weight in the location of advance factories as seems appropriate at the time advance factory programmes are decided upon.

    Development Assistance, Blyth

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) what applications were made in the Blyth constituency since October 1964 for grants and loans under the various Government schemes to attract industry to development districts; how many were granted; how many were refused; and what is the number now outstanding;(2) what grants and loans were paid to firms in the Blyth constituency under the various Government schemes to attract industry to development districts during the period from October 1964 to the latest available date.

    Between 1st October 1964 and 31st October, 1966, 27 applications were made to the Board of Trade for assistance under the Local Employment Acts by firms in the Blyth, Seaton Delaval and Bedlington Employment Exchange Areas. Offers were made in 18 cases, two applications were withdrawn, one was refused and six are outstanding. The total assistance offered in this period was £1,473,000, of which £529,000 relates to factories, £824,000 to building and plant and machinery grants and £120,000 to loans.Questions relating to expenditure by other Government Departments and by local authorities for attracting industry to development areas should be directed to the appropriate Ministers.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what complaints he has received regarding delay in dealing with applications for Government aid to development districts in the Blyth constituency and throughout the Northern Region; what is the length of time taken to make decisions regarding applications; and what are the main reasons for delay.

    Since the beginning of this year, I and my colleagues have received seven complaints from the Northern Region concerning delays in settling applications for assistance under the Local Employment Acts, two of which concerned firms in the Blyth constituency. The time taken to reach decisions on applications varies widely with their nature; but on the cases referred to such delay as there was was largely due to the time taken by applicants to provide necessary information.

    Anglo-Commonwealth Trade

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will set out in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the trade between Great Britain and New Zealand in each year since 1950, showing the annual value of exports from Great Britain to New Zealand and of imports from New Zealand into Great Britain;(2) if he will set out in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the trade between Great Britain and the rest of the Commonwealth in each year since 1950, showing the total annual value of exports from Great Britain to the rest of the Commonwealth and of imports from the rest of the Commonwealth into Great Britain;(3) if he will set out in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the trade between Great Britain and Australia in each year since 1950, showing the annual value of exports from Great Britain to Australia and of imports from Australia into Great Britain.

    The following is the information:

    UNITED KINGDOM TRADE WITH AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND AND OTHER COMMONWEALTH COUNTRIES
    £ million
    AustraliaNew ZealandOther Commonwealth Countries
    Exports and Re-exports toImports fromExport and Re-exports toImports fromExport and Re-exports toImports from
    19513262541111657031,069
    1952222227116166757990
    1953214294100170756942
    1954279236126176722973
    19552862641401807921,110
    19562412361271979141,087
    19572372481411839351,069
    1958238199129161890976
    1959226223981839401,038
    19602631981221839691,129
    19612041751251609851,091
    19622311861081708771,086
    19632392071161748851,203
    19642592511182089011,296
    19652842191262089561,290

    Local Government

    Agricultural Buildings (Rating)

    131.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the present policy regarding valuation of farm buildings for rating purposes.

    Agricultural buildings are exempt from rates and are therefore not valued for rating purposes.

    Mahatma Gandhi (Statue)

    asked the Prime Minister whether Her Majesty's Government will consider making a contribution towards the cost of erecting a statue of Mahatma Gandhi in London.

    The Mahatma Gandhi Memorial Committee, whose Chairman is Lord Sorensen, has undertaken responsibility for the erection in Tavistock Square of a statue of this outstanding Indian figure. The site was generously donated by the former St. Pancras Borough Council and was formally accepted by the late Mr. Jawarhalal Nehru. Subscriptions have been given by many organisations and individuals in the United Kingdom and I am glad to announce that Her Majesty's Government propose to give £4,000 towards the project. Work is already under way and the Committee hope that the statue will be ready for unveiling early next year. The House will be asked to approve a Supplementary Estimate in due course. In the meantime any advances required will be sought from the Civil Contingencies Fund.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Charolais Cattle (Importation)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement about the resumed negotiations with France on the import of Charolais cattle into Great Britain; and when he expects the negotiations to be complete.

    After further talks between the British and French veterinary authorities, the French exporters have agreed to the Probang test which we require for foot-and-mouth disease. The British Charolais Society and the exporters are now making the arrangements necessary to enable testing and quarantine to go forward. I cannot yet say when the importation will take place.

    Boars (Licences)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many boar pigs have been refused licences in each of the last five years; and how many of these had been performance tested.

    The number of licences which have been refused for boars in England and Wales in each of the last five years is as follows:—

    Year ended 31st March, 19622,313
    Year ended 31st March, 19631,825
    Year ended 31st March, 19642,118
    Year ended 31st March, 19652,122
    Year ended 31st March, 19661,651
    The information requested in the second part of the Question is not immediately available but I will write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many boar pigs have been licensed in each of the last five years; and how many of these had been performance tested.

    The number of boars licensed in England and Wales in each of the last five years is as follows:

    Year ended 31st March, 1962—22,763.
    Year ended 31st March, 1963—21,223.
    Year ended 31st March. 1964—21,782.
    Year ended 31st March, 1965—23,834.
    Year ended 31st March, 1966—18,722.
    The information requested in the second part of the Question is not immediately available, but I will write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

    National Finance

    Exchequer Revenue

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a full study of the relationship between the total revenues accruing to the Exchequer from Scotland, and England and Wales, respectively.

    I do not think that the value of such a study to students of the Scottish economy would be sufficient to justify its cost.

    Public Services (Per Capita Expenditure)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish the expenditure per head of population in Scotland, and England and Wales, respectively, on each of the services for which a separate calculation can be made.

    Expenditure per head of population in 1965–66 in Scotland, and England and Wales, respectively, on each of the services for which a separate calculation can be made was as set out in the attached table.

    ServiceScotlandEngland and Wales
    £s.d.£s.d.
    Roads (including lighting)814671210
    Airports17470
    Ports13557
    Promotion of local employment112373
    Agricultural support56104610
    Agricultural and Fisheries services etc1162101
    Forestry112103
    Housing281351564
    Environmental services1316910153
    Libraries and museums105196
    Police3180420
    Prisons135111
    Other law and order (including fire services)1142203
    Education (other than Universities and CAT'S2711624198
    Universities and CAT's5584911
    Health and Welfare2618524146
    Children's services (including family allowances)739650
    Benefits and assistance458643133

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish the expenditure per head of population for all services other than those which can be estimated separately for Scotland, and England and Wales.

    Expenditure per head of population in 1965–66 for all services other than those which can be estimated separately for Scotland, and England and Wales was £59 5s. 1d.

    Statutory Instruments Nos 1321 And 1322 (Availability)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when Statutory Instruments Nos. 1321 and 1322 imposing statutory restrictions on laundry prices and charges became available in Her Majesty's Stationery Offices in London and Manchester, respectively; and whether he will ensure that any future Statutory Instruments are available to those persons who are directly affected by them before the date of operation.

    On the afternoon of Friday, 21st October, and on the morning of 24th October, respectively.Where simultaneous publication of Statutory Instruments is not possible, as was the position in this case, arrangements will be made in future to have them on sale in Manchester by the day following publication in London.

    Education And Science

    Voluntary Sports Organsations, Lancashire (Capital Grant)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will give the amounts of grants made to amateur sports organisations in Heywood in each of the last five years; and what were the amounts in the same period for Royton, Crompton, Milnrow, Wardle, Littlebotough, Whitworth, the county of Lancashire, and the whole of the country, respectively.

    So far as can be traced no application for capital grant under the Physical Training and Recreation Act, 1937, has been submitted by a voluntary sports organisation in any of the seven districts mentioned.Following are the amounts paid out in grant in the administrative county of Lancashire and in England and Wales as a whole for the last five financial years.

    Financial YearAdministrative County of LancashireEngland and Wales
    ££
    1961–6211378,373
    1962–632,020109,335
    1963–64453153,793
    1964–6510,825311,126
    1965–6615,040627,051
    The figures for England and Wales include grants made in respect of national recreation centres.

    Overseas Development

    Swaziland (Economic Aid)

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what proposals he has for increasing the scale of economic aid to Swaziland; and if he will make a statement.

    I would refer my hon. Friend the Written Answer given on 8th February to a Question by the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall), which showed that development aid from Colonial Development and Welfare funds for the current period 1965–68 is at a considerably higher level than for the period 1963–66—[Vol. 724, cols. 49–50]. No proposals for further economic aid are under consideration at present but the amount of budgetary aid for next year will be considered shortly, and allocations of development aid for the period after 1967–68 a little later on.

    Zambia (Aid)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development what have been the total value of grants or loans to Zambia since the Rhodesian unilateral declaration of independence; and what amounts are now under negotiation.

    So far as commitments entered into since the illegal declaration of independence are concerned £3·8 million has been provided by the British Government towards the cost of developing alternative supply routes and a further £13·85 million is on offer for the development of new import and export routes and new sources of supply. No further new grants or loans are under negotiation. A number of payments are being made in respect of commitments entered into before the illegal declaration and apart from technical assistance grants £563,000 has been paid since I.D.I. from the £3 million loan for the Government of Zambia's compensation scheme for expatriate officers.

    Ministry Of Labour

    Non-Service Industries, Wales (New Jobs)

    asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of new jobs provided in non-service industries in Wales since 1964.

    Information in the form requested is not available. However, my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade has informed me that some 10,000 new jobs were expected to arise in manufacturing industries in Wales in new factories completed between the beginning of 1964 and mid 1966. This figure is based on estimates made by firms to whom industrial development certificates had been granted, of the numbers of new jobs that would arise when the completed factories were fully manned.

    Employment (Wales)

    asked the Minister of Labour how many were employed in Wales in agriculture and in the steel, tin-plate and coal industries, respectively, in the years 1955 to 1965.

    Following is the information for Agriculture (Minimum List Heading 001 of the Standard Industrial Classification), Iron and Steel (MLH 311), which includes the production of tinplate, and coal mining (MLH 101).

    ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT IN WALES
    AgricultureIron and SteelCoal mining
    Mid–195524,70064,000123,600
    Mid–195622,40067,600119,000
    Mid–195721,80069,700121,700
    Mid–195820,60064,300118,600
    Mid–195921,00066,100113,800
    Mid–196019,40071,700104,200
    Mid–196118,40072,80099,500
    Mid–196217,50068,90096,300
    Mid–196317,60071,90094,700
    Mid–196415,30075,20090,400
    Mid–196512,90074,90084,100
    Separate figures for the production of tinplate are not available.

    Unemployment Benefit (Scotland)

    asked the Minister of Labour what was the total amount paid out in unemployment benefit in Scotland in the last three years, respectively.

    Following is the information, so far as it is available:

    Financial Year (April-March)Total unemployment benefit paid£
    1964–19659,247,725
    1965–19669,240,804
    April-September, 19664,205,026

    School Leavers, Romford

    asked the Minister of Labour if he will give the number of school leavers in the Romford area who were still unemployed after three months in the years 1962 to 1966.

    The figures are as follows:

    19629
    19637
    1964Nil
    19652
    19662

    Unemployed Disabled Persons, Romford

    asked the Minister of Labour what percentage of the unemployed registered at the Romford Employment Exchange are registered dis- abled; and whether the latest returns show any increase.

    Numbers of registered disabled persons who were registered as unemployed, and percentages that these formed of all persons registered as unemployed, at Romford Employment Exchange were:

    Disabled PersonsPercentage
    10th October, 19667415·4
    12th September, 19666416·8
    8th August, 19667728·0
    11th July, 196669260
    11th October, 19657717·9

    Deputations

    asked the Minister of Labour how many deputations which included Members of Parliament have asked to see him or a Minister in his Department on matters within his responsibility since October, 1964; how many have been seen; and how many have not been seen.

    I regret that this information could not be made available without a disproportionate amount of work.

    Public Building And Works

    Richmond Park Roads (Use)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will state his plans for the future use of roads in Richmond Park.

    Stores And Plant (Transfer)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works to what extent it is his policy to transfer stores for Government building and plan that are surplus in one area to other areas where they are needed rather than to sell them at a loss.

    Stores and plant are transferred and reused when it is economic to do so.If the hon. Gentleman has a particular case in mind where he thinks stores would have been put to better use by their being transferred, I would be grateful if he would send me the details for further investigation.

    Wales

    Factories (Forestry Commission Woodlands)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if his Department in consultation with the Welsh Economic Council, will cause a plan to be drawn up of the best way of establishing factories so as to exploit to the full the manufacturing potential of the Forestry Commission's woodlands in Wales.

    Derelict Land

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many grants towards the cost of carrying out works of improvement on derelict land under the provisions of the Local Employment Act 1960 have been made to Welsh local authorities; what is the amount in- volved; and how many applications were received.

    Since the Local Employment Act 1960 was enacted, four schemes for the clearance of derelict land at a total cost of £60,541 have been approved for £33,633 grant.In all, twenty-nine applications were received, of which two were withdrawn, ten are at present under consideration and thirteen were rejected as not qualifying for grant.

    Highways (Double White Lines)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will extend the system of alternate sections of double white lines to three-lane highways in Wales such as the A48 between Newport and Chepstow where the accident rate is unusually high.

    I shall consider this after the trials at present being conducted by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport have been completed.