Written Answers To Questions
Wednesday, 23rd November, 1966
Railways
Freight And Passenger Traffic (Volume)
6.
asked the Minister of Transport what increase or decrease took place in the volume of freight and the numbers of passenger journeys on British Railways in the first nine months of 1966 compared with the first nine months of 1965.
Decreases of 6·4 per cent. and 2·8 per cent. respectively.
Regional Economic Planning Councils
13.
asked the Minister of Transport to what extent regional economic planning councils are consulted with regard to the proposals for the closure of passenger railway stations, freight depots, and other rail services; and if she will make a statement.
My right hon. Friend seeks the views of the regional economic planning councils on all proposals put to her for the withdrawal of passenger services from any line or station. Freight depots and services fall entirely within the responsibility of the Railways Board, but the Chairman has agreed to let the Councils have general information from time to time about their plans for freight services, both nationally and within their Regions.
82.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will give a general direction to British Railways to consult with regional economic planning councils before making proposals to withdraw rail freight services.
No. Responsibility for freight services and facilities rests with the Railways Board, but the Chairman has agreed to let the Councils have general information from time to time about its plans for freight both nationally and within their Regions.
Private Crossings
47.
asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made in the examination promised in November 1965 by her Department into all practicable measures of improvement, including the provision of additional safeguards, at accommodation railway crossings which carry fast main line traffic; and whether she is satisfied that, in view of the comparative silence and speedy approach of modern diesel engines, the precautions taken are adequate to prevent accidents to passengers and to those using the crossings.
The National Farmers' Union are now considering a review made by the Railways Board on a sample main line route. The safety record at private crossings shows no deterioration.
Wagons And Freight Stock (Age)
51.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will state the numbers of private owners' wagons in use on British Railways, the proportion of these built before or during the war, and the proportion of railway-owned goods vehicles built before or during the war.
Of the 23,000 privately-owned railway wagons in service, slightly more than a half were built before 1946. About 15 per cent. of the Railways Board's freight stock is of a similar age.
Northallerton-Ripon-Harrogate Line (Closure)
53.
asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the fact that Northallerton is now in a development area, if she will postpone the closure of the Northallerton-Ripon-Harrogate railway line for five years in order to see what development takes place during this period.
No.
Marplan Survey
63.
asked the Minister of Transport whether the analysis of the Marplan Survey on the effects of railway closures has been completed; and when she expects to publish the results of the Survey.
The analysis of the Survey is now complete. A summary of the results will be published shortly.
Basic Network
65.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to be able to make an estimate of particulars of the proposed basic rail network referred to in paragraph 19 of Command Paper No. 3057.
In the early months of 1967.
Major Terminals
69.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to announce the 50 major terminals at which it is proposed to concentrate the general merchandise of the railways.
The Railways Board has not yet completed its planning and it is too early to predict when the full list of major terminals might be announced. A list of the first 15 is as follows:
| London (York Way), | Already in operation. |
| Glasgow (Gushetfaulds), | |
| Manchester (Longsight), | |
| Liverpool (Garston), | |
| Aberdeen, | |
| London (Willesden). | |
| Cardiff (Pengam). | |
| Newcastle (Follingsby). | |
| London (Stratford). | |
| Stockton. | |
| Sheffield. | |
| Leeds (Stourton). | |
| Edinburgh (Portobello). | |
| Birmingham (Dudley). | |
| Hull. |
Future Traffic
70.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to make realistic estimates of future rail traffic which will result from the new national freight organisation.
It is too soon to forecast this.
Lost, Stolen Or Damaged Goods (Claims)
71.
asked the Minister of Transport what it would have cost British Railways in 1965 to meet the full genuine claims owing to loss or theft and genuine claims for damage to goods; and how much in fact was paid out by British Railways to meet these claims.
The Railways Board tell me that the information asked for in the first part of the Question is not readily available. Claims paid in 1965 in respect of goods lost or stolen totalled £1,268,861, and those for damage amounted to £799,614.
Liner Trains
78.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the percentage of capacity at which each of the freight liner train services has operated during the most recent four-week period for which figures are available.
It would be contrary to established practice to provide statistics of this kind on other than a national basis. Moreover the seven two-way services are in different stages of development.
79.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the total capital investment to date in the freight liner train scheme.
I originally authorised £6 million and have recently agreed a further £6 million. The Railways Board has invested £5 million. It has also spent about £1 million on associated road vehicles.
asked the Minister of Transport what further progress has been made towards free access to the terminals of liner trains; and if she will make a statement.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given today to the hon. Members for Worcester (Mr. Peter Walker); Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor); Bromley (Mr. Hunt); Chippenham (Mr. Awdry); Sheffield, Hallam (Mr. J. H. Osborn); Blackpool, South (Mr. Blaker); and Chigwell (Mr. Biggs-Davison).
Railway Land (Car Parks)
87.
asked the Minister of Transport whether, following the recommendations of the National Board for Prices and Incomes regarding the need for concentration depots for coal distribution, she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the Railways Board to convert areas of railway land, now leased to small coal merchants, into car parks.
No.
Season Tickets
86.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the Railways Board as a contribution to price restraint to issue cheaper season tickets valid for Mondays to Fridays only.
No.
Aberystwyth-Pont Llanio Line (Bridges)
97.
asked the Minister of Transport whether the bridges on the railway line between Aberystwyth and Pont Llanio, with the exception of the flood-damaged bridge at Pont Llanio itself, will be preserved in their present condition until the Welsh Economic Council reports on the future of the railway.
Yes.
Romsey-Andover Line
102.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to take her decision about the future of the Romsey-Andover railway line.
My right hon. Friend has told the Railways Board that she does not wish to raise any objection to the disposal of the formation and the surplus assets of the closed Romsey-Andover railway line.
Capital Investment
103.
asked the Minister of Transport to what extent capital will be made available by the Government in each of the next five years to meet the needs of the railways for the replacement of obsolete rolling stock, the continued modernisation of track and signalling and other necessary investment, respectively.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Hillhead (Mr. Galbraith) on 8th November. Of the £102 million investment allocation for 1967, the Railways Board estimates that about £30 million will be spent on the renewal and modernisation of track and signalling and £43 million on other necessary investment.
asked the Minister of Transport what capital schemes in the British Railways programme of investment have been delayed as a result of the Government's economic measures.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answers given to the hon. Members for Basingstoke (Mr. David Mitchell) and Ayr (Mr. Younger) on 9th [Vol. 735, c. 295.] and 15th November respectively.—[Vol 736, c. 92.]
Derailment, Sittingbourne (Inquiry)
105.
asked the Minister of Transport whether the inquiry into the derailment outside Sittingbourne on Wednesday, 27th July, 1966, has now been completed; and if she will make a statement.
The Inquiry has been completed and I shall send my hon. Friend a copy of the report, which is now being finalised, as soon as it is printed.
Lansdown Station, Cheltenham
108.
asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the centralisation of all passenger traffic in Lansdown Station, Cheltenham, she will now give approval for the capital expenditure required so that the proposed reconstruction of this station can be started without further delay.
The Railways Board has not put forward for my right hon. Friend's approval any proposals for capital expenditure here.
Edinburgh-Carlisle Line
109.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will appoint a firm of independent business consultants to advise her on the economic operation of the Edinburgh to Carlisle railway line before she accepts any recommendations for the termination of passenger services.
My right hon. Friend sees no reason for any exceptional measure in this case. The established procedures ensure that, before reaching her decision on any closure proposal, she has advice on the economics of the proposal and of possible alternatives.
Stanley Junction-Kinnaber Line (Passenger Services)
117.
asked the Minister of Transport why 10 months have elapsed since the report of the Scottish Transport Users' Consultative Committee on British Railways' proposal to withdraw passenger services from the line between Stanley Junction and Kinnaber; and when she will reach her decision.
asked the Minister of Transport when a decision may be expected on the proposed closure of the Strathmore railway line between Stanley Junction and Kinnaber Junction.
My right hon. Friend has given her consent today to the withdrawal of passenger services from this line. Before reaching her decision she considered very carefully the advice of the Scottish Economic Planning Council about the possibilities for long-term growth in the area as well as the advice of the Scottish T.U.C.C. on hardship. In giving consent she has told the Railways Board that the formation must be retained intact until the pattern of future development is much clearer. She is also insisting on the provision of additional express bus services.
Eastern And North-Eastern Regions (Merger)
121.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will postpone a decision on the proposed merger of the British Railways' Eastern and North-Eastern Regions until the Joint Steering Group set up under Command Paper No. 3057 has reported on the suitability of the Board's management structure and procedures.
I am at present considering the Railways Board's proposals for a merger of Eastern and North-Eastern Regions. I intend to take an early decision in order to remove the present uncertainty, which is worrying many railway staff.
Barmouth-Ruabon Line
124.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will announce her plans for the future of the Barmouth-Ruabon railway line.
My right hon. Friend has deferred her decision on the disposal of the formation of this line until the Welsh Economic Council have given her their views on the planning implications.
Hull-Scarborough Line (Closure)
129.
asked the Minister of Transport what application she has received from the Railways Board for the closure of the Hull to Scarborough railway line.
The Railways Board has sought my right hon. Friend's agreement to publishing a closure proposal for these passenger services under Section 56 of the Transport Act, 1962.
British Transport Hotels Ltd (Capital Value)
asked the Minister of Transport what estimate she has made of the capital value of British Railways hotels.
I have nothing to add to the reply given to the hon. Member on 25th July, 1966.—[Vol. 732, c. 190.]
Ports
Dock Dues (Goole)
106.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the British Transport Docks Board proposal to raise by 33⅓ per cent. the dock dues on vessels loading coal at the port of Goole; and whether she will advise the Board in the light of the Prices and Incomes Act to cancel this increase which will add to the price of coal and adversely affect the trade of the port.
The Board has assured my right hon. Friend that it will not withdraw the concessionary rate now enjoyed by colliers at Goole while to do so would conflict with the Government's prices and incomes policy.
New Dock, Portbury
17.
asked the Minister of Transport on what basis she has estimated in paragraph 27 of Reasons for the Minister's decision not to authorise the construction of a new dock at Port-bury, Bristol, that the additional haulage charge for 1·5 million tons of diverted exports referred to in paragraph 26 would amount to approximately £1 million a year.
The figure is based in general on estimates of the differences between road haulage charges to Port-bury and those from the point of origin of goods to the port used at present, based on estimated future tonnages and rates per ton for the journeys involved. I will write to the hon. Member with fuller information about the calculation.
Tees And Hartlepools Port Authority (Appointment)
asked the Minister of Transport on what grounds she rejected the recommendation of a steering committe of the Middlesbrough, Redcar, Thornaby and Eston local authorities that Councillor G. T. Thornton of Redcar should be appointed as a member of the
| Actual | £ million | ||||||||
| Port | 1951 | 1952 | 1953 | 1954 | 1955 | 1956 | 1957 | 1958 | |
| Southampton | … | ·2 | ·2 | ·2 | ·4 | ·6 | ·5 | ·5 | ·3 |
| Newport | … | ·1 | ·1 | — | ·1 | ·1 | ·2 | ·2 | ·5 |
| Swansea | … | — | — | ·1 | ·2 | ·2 | ·1 | ·3 | ·6 |
| Grangemouth | … | — | — | ·1 | — | ·1 | ·2 | ·1 | ·3 |
| Hull | … | ·9 | 1·0 | 1·1 | ·2 | ·5 | 1·2 | 1·4 | 1·4 |
| Immingham | … | ·2 | ·2 | ·3 | ·1 | ·1 | ·1 | ·2 | ·3 |
| Actual | Latest Estimate | ||||||||
| Port | 1959 | 1960 | 1961 | 1962 | 1963 | 1964 | 1965 | 1966 | |
| Southampton | … | ·3 | ·9 | ·4 | ·5 | ·5 | 1·1 | 1·3 | 2?6 |
| Newport | … | ·4 | ·3 | ·3 | ·2 | ·2 | ·3 | ·3 | ·8 |
| Swansea | … | ·6 | ·5 | ·4 | ·3 | ·2 | ·2 | ·2 | ·2 |
| Grangemouth | … | ·4 | ·5 | ·8 | ·5 | ·2 | ·1 | ·1 | ·3 |
| Hull | … | 1·0 | 2·3 | 2·1 | 2·1 | ·7 | ·6 | 1·8 | 2·3 |
| Immingham | … | ·9 | ·2 | ·2 | ·4 | ·2 | ·1 | ·4 | ·4 |
| FINANCIAL YEARS | |||||||
| £ million Estimated | |||||||
| 1963–64 | 1964–65 | 1965–66 | 1966–67 | ||||
| Port of London Authority | … | … | … | 4·5 | 6·3 | 7·6 | 11·25 |
| Mersey Docks and Harbour Board | … | … | … | 1·0 | 0·9 | 1·9 | 4·0 |
| Port of Bristol Authority | … | … | … | 1·3 | 1·5 | 1·8 | ·75 |
| Clyde Port Authority | … | … | … | ·4 | ·4 | 0·5 | 2·0 |
| Manchester Ship Canal Company | … | … | … | ·8 | ·8 | 1·5 | 1·9 |
| Leith Dock Commission | … | … | … | ·2 | ·4 | 1·3 | 1·9 |
| Tees Conservancy Commissioners | … | … | … | ·5 | ·4 | 1·8 | 3·4 |
| * Combined Clyde Navigation Trust and Greenock Harbour Trust figure. | |||||||
new Tees and Hartlepools Port Authority; and why, instead of Councillor Thornton, she appointed Councillor J. Finegan, who was not recommended by the steering committee of the local authorities.
The recommendation of the steering committee was received toolate to be considered. I appointed Councillor Finegan in accordance with Sections 6(2)(f) and 6(4) of the Tees and Hartlepools Port Authority Act, 1966.
Capital Investment
asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the total capital investment in each of the 14 major ports in Great Britain for each year since 1945; and whether she will estimate the investment for each of the next five years.
For the British Transport Docks Board ports concerned, figures are available from 1951 as follows:Detailed figures for the remaining major ports from 1963–64 are as follows:—that total expenditure at the above ports will be of the order of £25 million each year.
I regret that the rest of the information requested could not be obtained without undue expenditure of time and effort.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now announce the phased programme of selected investment in the ports which she referred to in paragraph 108 of Command Paper No. 3057.
Discussions with the National Ports Council are still proceeding.
Roads
A1 (Fly-Over)
44.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the danger of the staggered crossing at Kates' Cabin on the A1 at Alwalton; and when she proposes to comply with the request of the Huntingdon and Peterborough County Council that a fly-over should be built at this road junction.
I am aware that measures introduced successively have improved conditions at the junction but have not eliminated the accident risk. We will provide a fly-over when we can, but it must await its turn for a place in the road programme.
A47 (Walpole Highway)
48.
asked the Minister of Transport what steps she will take to increase safety on the A47 at Walpole Highway.
The Divisional Road Engineer is consulting with the local authority about suitable measures.
M4
49.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to complete the M4.
By 1971.
110.
asked the Minister of Transport in view of the bankruptcies amongst contractors on the M4, if she will take steps to ensure that in future such contractors are all asked to provide surety bonds as proof of their standing; and if, in addition, she will instruct main contractors to ask their sub-contractors to provide similar bonds.
Under our selective tendering procedure we already make prior inquiry into the financial standing of firms awarded motorway contracts. The failure of one main contractor on M4 would not justify the general introduction of Bonds of Surety. The commercial relationship between the main contractor and his sub-contractors is a matter for the parties concerned, not for my right hon. Friend.
Parking Meters, Greater London Area (Revenue)
50.
asked the Minister of Transport what was the yield from parking meters in the Greater London Area last year; and how much of this has been applied to the purposes of off-street parking facilities.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr. John Hall) on 19th October last.—[Vol. 734, c. 50.]
Urban Roads (Controls Of Use)
62.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to publish the report on the various methods of controlling the use of urban roads which is referred to in paragraph 52 of the White Paper on Transport Policy, Command Paper No. 3057.
Early next year.
Worboys Signs, Dorset
75.
asked the Minister of Transport why only £1,000 has been allotted to Dorset for the installation of Worboys signs in 1966–67.
My right hon. Friend has allocated £6,800 for the installation of the new signs in Dorset for 1966–67. £5,800 of this amount is for trunk roads and £1,000 is the grant towards the cost of the signs on classified roads.In 1965–66 the County Council were finally allocated £7,000 for classified roads of which only £6,000 was spent. It is this balance of £1,000 which has so far been reallocated for this year.
A6 (Preston-Carnforth Section)
72.
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for declassifying the A6 trunk road between Preston and Carnforth; and whether she will make a statement.
The status of this stretch of trunk road is being considered as part of the current Highway Review, on which consultations between the Divisional Road Engineers and the local highway authorities have now been completed. We hope to announce the outcome by the end of the year.
Motorways
76.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will arrange for three-shift working on repairs to motorways in order to expedite their completion.
I am concerned that all reasonable measures should be taken to expedite completion of essential motorway repairs and improvements.Three-shift working would be employed where special circumstances warranted, but its general use would add substantially to costs; moreover it is difficult to execute certain road-repairing processes by artificial light. Nor must we overlook the increased hazard, both to motorists and to the workmen themselves, created by night work and by the special lighting required.
asked the Minister of Transport whether it is her policy that there should be flexible safety barriers and anti-dazzle screens in the central reservations of motorways.
Safety barriers are provided where the width of central reservation is less than normal. The Department is carrying out experiments to ascertain in what other circumstances the provision of barriers and screens would be beneficial, and which types would be most suitable.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to be able to give details of the plan for motorways in the decade from 1970.
I hope to announce before long a first list of inter-urban road schemes to be prepared for inclusion in the road programme for the early 1970's.
M1
77.
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for increasing the capacity of the M1 motorway.
I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member on 29th July.—[Vol. 732, c. 350.]
99.
asked the Minister of Transport when the northern extension of the M1 to Pinxton, and the southern extension to Hendon will now be opened to traffic.
Given reasonable weather I expect that these motorway extensions will be opened to traffic by late January or early February and late March respectively.
M5 (Land)
81.
asked the Minister of Transport what percentage of the land required for the construction of the M5 has been acquired for the Bredon viaduct and for the section south of Tewkesbury to south of Gloucester, respectively.
None. But we are negotiating for some of the land and expect to open negotiations for the rest soon.
Classified Road Schemes, Suffolk
88.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now authorise the construction of the Trimley and Walton by-pass and the Felixstowe southern relief road.
These two schemes are being considered for inclusion in the next extension of the classified road programme, which my right hon. Friend hopes to announce soon.
Road Building (Finance)
96.
asked the Minister of Transport what studies she is at present making on new methods of financing road building.
For local authority roads a new system of grants is to come into effect next year in accordance with the provisions of the Local Government Bill. Otherwise my right hon. Friend has no new proposals to make.
Channel Tunnel (Share Profits)
90.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will ensure that all the United Kingdom's share profits from the proposed Channel Tunnel will accrue to the public purse.
Agreement has been reached with the French Government that the Tunnel should be built with recourse to finance from private sources, but that this doss not exclude participation from public funds in the risk capital of the construction company. The terms negotiated with private interests must be acceptable to both Governments. During the negotiations I shall bear fully in mind the need to provide for a proper return on the project for the public purse.
Barnes Motorway Link
101.
asked the Minister of Transport what discussions she has had regarding the proposed motorway through Barnes; and if she will make a statement.
The Barnes link is part of the strategic network now under joint consideration by the Greater London Council and the Ministry. We have not yet had occasion to discuss specifically this particular part of the network.
Humber Bridge
111 and 112.
asked the Minister of Transport (1) when she will give her sanction for the construction of the Humber Bridge;(2) when she will make a statement about the Yorkshire/Lincolnshire link across the Humber.
My right hon. Friend hopes to be able to make a statement soon about the A1 to Humberside trunk road network, and to deal with the Humber Bridge in the course of that statement.
Motorway Service Areas
122.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will seek powers to regulate food prices charged on motorway service areas.
No.
123.
asked the Minister of Transport on what basis concessions are granted to operators of service areas on motorways.
Service areas are let on 50 year leases to commercial developers after open competitive tender. Lessees are required to design, construct and operate petrol filling stations, catering and other facilities at their own cost on sites purchased by my right hon. Friend. They must provide certain essential services to motorway users, normally for 24 hours every day. For the concessions granted to them they pay a rent and royalty on turnover to the Exchequer.In considering which tender to accept regard is paid to design and layout, the financial offer and to catering, engineering and architectural aspects.
asked the Minister of Transport what is the annual cost to the company of the lease of the catering concession at the Aust motorway service area at the Severn Bridge.
Details of rents paid for motorway service areas are confidential between the company concerned and the Ministry.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a detailed investigation into the prices being charged at the Aust motorway service area.
No.
Motorways (Fog)
126.
asked the Minister of Transport what special precautions are being taken against fog on the motorways; and if she will consider, in cooperation with the police and motoring organisations, introducing a convoy system when stretches of motorway become fogbound.
In the short term, the existing system of flashing amber lights and special broadcast fog warnings will remain in use. In the longer term, all motorways will be equipped with remotely controlled emergency warning signals to indicate maximum advisory speeds in bad weather.We believe these are more practical measures than a system of convoys.
A1 (Lavatories)
128.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will make a contribution towards the maintenance costs of the lavatories that are being provided on the A1 trunk road.
These lavatories are being provided under a pilot scheme on conditions which exclude any Ministry contribution to maintenance. The position will be reviewed when results of the pilot scheme are available.
Parking Meters (Testing)
127.
asked the Minister of Transport what standards her Department lays down regarding the regular testing of parking meter timing mechanisation and calibrations and on acceptable margins of error.
None, but the standards set out in the Parking Meters (Description and Testing) (England and Wales) Order 1961 are generally followed.
Rural Roads (Kerbing)
131.
asked the Minister of Transport, in view of her decision to reduce by 13 feet the land needed for rural motorways to save an average of £22,000 a mile, if she will stop the kerbing of rural roads, and leave the safer and cheaper grass verges as they are.
No. My right hon. Friend can see no reason to change the guidance given to local highway authorities on kerbing which I explained in Answer to a Question from the hon. Member on 6th July.—[Vol. 731, c. 70.]
M6 (Accidents)
asked the Minister of Transport what further investigations have been made into possible reasons for the high accident rate on the Cheshire section of the M6, and particularly into the possible existence of a magnetic force which may affect the speed of vehicles and thus be a contributory factor; and if she will make a statement.
Accident figures on motorways do not indicate that the rate on the M6 in Cheshire is appreciably higher than the average; consequently no special investigation has been made. We have no evidence of a magnetic force which could affect the speed of vehicles. I will gladly examine any evidence put to me.
Transport
Rail And Road Transport (Comparative Costs)
52.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will now announce the results of the study of road and rail trunk route costs in relation to vehicle user.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, North-East on 4th November.—[Vol. 735, c. 186.]
Dangerous Driving (Definition)
54.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will seek to reform the law relating to dangerous driving so that a driver who is doing his incompetent best is not convicted of this criminal offence.
We are considering with my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary how dangerous and careless driving may be redefined.
Wide Loads (Special Charge)
57.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will introduce legislation to charge the transporters of abnormally wide loads on the roads a traffic-dislocation fee.
The question of abnormally wide or heavy loads is being examined as part of my review of road goods transport policy, and the possibility of making a special charge will be included in the review.
Passenger Services (Financial Responsibility)
60.
asked the Minister of Transport in what proportion she intends to divide between local communities and central Government the financial responsibility for passenger services retained for local reasons.
I am not at present able to add to what is stated in paragraph 27 of the White Paper on Transport Policy (Command 3057).
Bus Operators (Motor Fuel Duty)
64.
asked the Minister of Transport when she will introduce legislation to enable the additional fuel tax of 4d. a gallon to be refunded to transport operators.
I intend very shortly to put before the House a Bill enabling me to pay grants to bus operators, for their stage services, in relief of the 10 per cent. surcharge on motor fuel duty imposed under the regulator in July this year.
Victoria Line (Extension)
61.
asked the Minister of Transport if she has yet decided to approve the extension of the Victoria underground to Brixton.
My right hon. Friend hopes to reach a decision early next year.
Road Pricing
66.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will give the names and qualifications of the special team on road pricing referred to in paragraph 53 of Command Paper No. 3057; and when she expects to publish a report on it.
It is not usual to publish the names of civil servants staffing particular units. There will not necessarily be a published report on this research work.
115.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement on her policy of road pricing for motorists in London and her recent visit to the United States of America, setting out those matters relating to traffic control about which she received valuable information.
On road pricing and on my recent visit to the United States of America I have nothing to add to the Answers given to my hon. Friend the Member for West Ham, North (Mr. Arthur Lewis) and the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) on 2nd November, 1966—[Vol. 735, c. 117.]—and to the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell) on 9th November, 1966.—[Vol 735, c. 296.]Concerning traffic control, which was not in any case the primary purpose of my visit, I had discussions on a number of points, such as traffic signal systems and parking policies which are of particular interest to us in view of the similar techniques we are developing in this country.
asked the Minister of Transport when she intends to introduce legislation for the control by charging of traffic in city centres.
I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave on 9th November to a Question by the hon. Member for Bodmin (Mr. Bessell).—[Vol. 735, c. 296.]
Conurbation Transport Authorities
67.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she has yet decided in which conurbations she proposes to create conurbation transport authorities; and if she will list those on which she has so decided.
Final decisions have not yet been taken. I shall shortly be visiting the Greater Manchester area, Tyne-side, Merseyside and the West Midlands to discuss the possible forms that conurbation transport authorities might take.
Cmnd No 3057
73.
asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to conclude her consultations with local authorities on the cost of implementing paragraph 79 of Command Paper No. 3057.
I cannot yet say. I have made detailed proposals to the local authorities' associations about the proposed scheme, including the financial arrangements, which they are now considering.
74.
asked the Minister of Transport to what extent paragraph 12 of chapter 12 of the National Plan, Command Paper No. 2764, has been superseded by Command Paper No. 3057.
As stated in Paragraph 29 of the White Paper on Transport Policy (Cmnd. Paper 3057), the Government and the Railways Board have set up joint machinery to study the financial implications of the new policies for the railways. I cannot anticipate the outcome.
Concessionary Fares
80.
asked the Minister of Transport what progress is being made in the consideration of means of allowing old age pensioners in the Greater London area to have entitlement to concessionary fares on London Transport.
I have consulted the Greater London Council and the London Boroughs Association about this as part of the general review referred to in the Answers given on 26th October [Vol. 734, c. 186] to my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Heeley (Mr. Hooley) and on 9th November to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, North-West (Mr. Ellis).—[Vol. 735, c. 296.]
114.
asked the Minister of Transport what complaints she has received on behalf of elderly people resident in Newburn Urban District area and Castle Ward area of Northumberland about the lack of travel concession facilities in those areas; and what replies she has sent.
I have had representations relating to the Castle Ward Rural District from the Newbiggin Hall Local Labour Party. I am sending my hon. Friend copies of the replies sent on my behalf.
American Methods
83.
asked the Minister of Transport which of those transport methods she studied in the United States of America are being examined further in her Department or elsewhere with a view to their introduction or adaptation in this country.
Exchange of knowledge between the United Kingdom and United States on transport matters is already proving of mutual benefit. Both we and they are seeking improvements in public transport, freight handling, traffic management, road safety and the programming and construction of roads; and these are amongst matters I studied in the United States. I intend particularly to keep in touch with American experience of improved methods of transporting commuters rapidly by rail and the use of containers for the through transport of freight, which gives the shipper high efficiency at low cost.
Drinking And Driving (Publicity)
85.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will take steps to enlist the co-operation of the Press and broadcasting services to inaugurate a sustained propaganda campaign relating to drinking and driving and other prominent causes of road accidents.
Both the Press and the broadcasting services already cooperate in publicising road safety measures, and I am sure that we can continue to count on their help. My right hon. Friend is setting up within the Department's Information Division a special Road Safety Publicity Unit which will be able to give them greater assistance.
Private Bus Services (Public Ownership)
89.
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for taking into public ownership privately-operated bus services.
As explained in my recent White Paper on Transport Policy (Cmnd. 3057), my objective is to secure more effective public passenger transport services throughout the country. This will entail rationalisation of present services. But the manner of doing so must be adapted to local needs and it is too early to say what changes in the ownership of buses may be desirable.
Motor Vehicles (Exhaust Fumes)
91.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce regulations requiring car manufacturers to fit anti-pollution devices to all new models for home use as well as for export.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Leominster (Sir Clive Bossom) on 31st October.Any regulations which my right hon. Friend may decide to make will apply to vehicles for the home market.—[Vol. 735, c.
26.]
Driving Licence (Minimum Age)
93.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will seek to make the ages at which young people can apply for driving licences for motor cars and for motor cycles the same.
We are consulting interested organisations on a proposal to raise the minimum age for holding a motor cycle driving licence from 16 to 17 which would have this effect.
Motor Vehicles (Noise)
100.
asked the Minister of Transport when she proposes to make it an offence for various classes of motor vehicles to exceed prescribed maximum noise levels.
Work is proceeding on the preparation of draft regulations, but as my hon. Friend the Member for Meriden (Mr. Rowland) was informed on 22nd June, it is unlikely that my right hon. Friend will be able to make regulations this year.—[Vol. 730, c. 79.]
Motor Rallies (Control Regulations)
98.
asked the Minister of Transport when she proposes to set up her Advisory Committee on the Control of Motor Rallies' Regulations.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to my
| 1961–62 | 1962–63 | 1963–64 | 1964–65 | 1965–66 | |||||
| Summonses | … | … | … | … | 4,969 | 4,559 | 4,847 | 6,899 | 5,918 |
| Convictions | … | … | … | … | 4,468 | 3,953 | 4,532 | 5,990 | 5,220 |
| 1961–62 | 1962–63 | 1963–64 | 1964–65 | 1965–66 | |||||
| Summonses | … | … | … | … | 2,514 | 3,474 | 4,086 | 3,506 | 4,406 |
| Convictions | … | … | … | … | 2,350 | 3,352 | 3,965 | 3,393 | 4,233 |
| 1961–62 | 1962–63 | 1963–64 | 1964–65 | 1965–66 | ||||
| Revoked | … | … | … | 1 | Nil | 2 | 3 | 12 |
| Suspended or Curtailed | … | … | … | 3 | 8 | 7 | 129 | 146 |
120.
asked the Minister of Transport when the new safety standards for goods vehicles will become enforceable.
The higher, specified braking efficiencies laid down in the revised Construction and Use Regulations which were laid before the House on 3rd November will become effective on 1st January, 1968, but other changes permitting the use of spring brakes and split braking systems come into effect on 1st December, 1966. Improvements dependent upon plating and type approval will have to await the making of Regulations under the provisions of the Road Safety Bill now before Parliament.
Travel Conditions
104.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will list the improvements and the responsible hon. Friend the Member for Central Ayrshire (Mr. Manuel) on 16th November last.—[Vol. 736, c. 116.]
Goods Vehicles
92.
asked the Minister of Transport how many summonses were issued for offences against the statutory requirements relating to drivers' hours and the maintenance of goods vehicles in each of the last five years; how many convictions were secured; and in how many cases licences were revoked or suspended on account of safety offences.
The numbers of summonses and convictions for drivers' hours offences were as follows:offences under Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations are not readily available. The total numbers of Construction and Use offence cases were:reasons relevant under the 14th Schedule of the Road Traffic Act 1960 were as follows:authority in each case which have been introduced to better travel conditions referred to in paragraph 65 of Command Paper No. 3057.
With the help of the Transport Co-ordinating Council for London and its constituent Groups, action has been taken or is in hand on many schemes to better travel conditions, most of them within the responsibilities of the Greater London Council, the London Transport Board or the British Railways Board. It is impossible to list them all. Examples of work done are traffic management measures introduced to give priority for the London Transport Red Arrow service; revival under Council sponsorship of Local Transport Groups intended mainly to improve travel conditions for industrial workers; and the start of work on physical improvements designed to provide by early next year a substantial increase in capacity on the busiest section of the Southern Region of British Rail.
Parking (Christmas Plans)
107.
asked the Minister of Transport what arrangements are being made for the provision of temporary car parks in the West End to cope with the Christmas shopping period.
These arrangements are a matter for the Greater London Council as traffic authority. It published details of its Christmas plans on 15th November.
Travel Concessions Act, 1964
113.
asked the Minister of Transport if she has completed her review of the anomalies which have arisen from the operation of the Travel Concessions Act, 1964; and if she will make a statement on the steps she intends to take to remove the anomalies.
I would refer to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol North-West (Mr. Ellis) on 9th November.—[Vol. 735, c. 296.]
Inland Waterways (Legislation)
116.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce a seperate Bill to deal with the future of inland waterways when she brings forward legislation to implement the White Paper on transport policy.
My right hon. Friend hopes, in the next Session, to introduce a major Transport Bill, which will deal with future policy for the inland waterways among other important matters.
Passenger Insurance
125.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce legislation to provide for insurance cover against personal injuries sustained by car accidents.
As my hon. Friend said in his reply of 11th July to my hon. Friend the Member for Hackney, Central (Mr. Herbert Butler) a special Committee of the National Road Safety Advisory Council is considering whether passenger insurance should be made compulsory. It would be premature to consider legislation until I have the Council's recommendations.—[Vol. 731, c. 150.]
Private Motor Cars, London (Restrictions)
130.
asked the Minister of Transport what restrictions she proposes to put on the use of private motor cars in London.
Any such restrictions arising out of existing powers would be a matter for the G.L.C. as traffic authority for London. On the possibility of more general restraints on traffic, I cannot add at this stage to what is said in paragraphs 52 and 67 of the White Paper on Transport Policy (Cmnd. 3057).
Transport Services, Llanarthnau
asked the Minister of Transport what public transport service, rail or road exists for Llanarthnau and district, Carmarthenshire.
There are no rail passenger services. As regards bus services, I would refer the hon. Member to the operators' timetables, copies of which I am sending him.
Motor Vehicles (Unroadworthy Condition)
asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce legislation to clarify the responsibility incurred if a motor vehicle involved in a road accident is said by the police to be not roadworthy, despite the fact that the vehicle carries a test certificate from an authorised garage certifying that it has passed the road test required by her Department.
No. It is an offence to use or permit the use of a motor vehicle on the roads in unroadworthy condition and responsibility must rest with the user. In the case of proceedings it is for the courts to decide whether there are mitigating circumstances. A test certificate relates to the condition of a vehicle at the time of the test and though it is valid for twelve months as evidence that the vehicle has been submitted for test it is not a warranty of condition throughout that period.
Motor Vehicles (Trafficators)
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make regulations to make it obligatory to fit blinking trafficators to all vehicles irrespective of the date of manufacture or registration.
My Working Party on the Lighting of Vehicles will shortly consider proposed regulations to make compulsory the fitting of direction indicators on all vehicles—with certain exceptions. Any direction indicators fitted to new motor vehicles or to a trailer drawn by one must now be of the flashing amber type. The question whether there would be justification for prohibiting other types now in use on some vehicles will be considered by the Working Party.
Park Lane-Hyde Park Corner Area (Congestion)
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will make a statement on the result of her investigations into the traffic jam in the Park Lane-Hyde Park Corner area on the evening of 16th November; and what steps she is taking to prevent a recurrence of such traffic congestion in Central London.
These are, of course, matters for the Greater London Council, as traffic authority, and the police. It is difficult to analyse the precise reasons for congestion. I understand that a number of comparatively small factors may have contributed to it on this occasion. The Greater London Council emphasise that in near-capacity conditions small incidents can have a major effect on the traffic situation.
London Supermarkets (Night Delivery Experiments)
asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware of the recent experiments in night delivery carried out by London supermarkets, details of which have been sent to her; and what steps she is taking to extend overnight deliveries.
Yes. The matters referred to in my hon. Friend's Question are primarily for the Greater London Council as traffic authority, but I am, of course, very interested in the results of the experiment when they are available. The Transport Co-ordinating Council, through their Freight Group, are considering ways of improving goods distribution in London.
Speed (Television Advertising)
asked the Minister of Transport what evidence she has received of the effect on the incidence of accidents of television advertising, which glorifies excessive speed and other forms of dangerous driving.
There is no evidence at present, but it seems likely that television advertising can have both good and bad effects on driving behaviour. Advertising which glorifies speed or any other form of dangerous driving must be wrong because, if it has any effects, these must be harmful.
Motor Vehicles (Excise Duty)
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for sealing licence fees for vehicles according to the space they occupy on the road.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Hampstead (Mr. Whitaker) on 2nd November.—[Vol. 735, c. 120.]
Post Office
London Trades Directory
132 and 133.
asked the Postmaster-General (1) if he is aware that charges for insertions in the London Trades Directory for 1967 are to be increased by over 50 per cent. by the publishers, Messrs. Thomson; and if he will reduce them under the Prices and Incomes Act;(2) if he will state the main terms of the contract he has made with Messrs. Thomson for the publication of the London Trades Directory, 1967; and what are the conditions regarding charges and profits.
Under their contract Thomson Directories Limited sell advertisements and special entries in classified telephone directories on behalf of the Post Office and retain an agreed percentage of the revenue as their commission. They also have discretion to decide the rate structure. The scale of charges applicable to the 1967 London Classified Telephone Directory was announced by Thomsons in March, 1966.
Donaghadee Post Office (Resiting)
134.
asked the Postmaster-General whether, in the interests of the safety of pedestrians using the narrow roadway at the side of the post office in Donoghadee, County Down, which roadway has no footpath and is used by Post Office vehicles and other traffic, he will now authorise the resiting of the Dona-ghadee Post Office.
There has been no change in the circumstances since the previous Postmaster-General wrote to the hon. Member about this matter last January: and, for the reasons then given, I should not be justified in moving the Post Office.
Sub-Post Office, Newtownards
135.
asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now authorise the establishment of a sub-post office at the eastern end of Francis Street, Newtownards, County Down.
In view of the redevelopment taking place, my right hon. Friend has now decided to provide a sub-post office in this area. We shall go ahead with this as soon as the redevelopment is sufficiently advanced to enable us to consider for the post office not only existing shops but the new shops being provided.
Temporary Postmen, Hull (Christmas Period)
137.
asked the Postmaster-General how many extra postmen are being taken on for the Christmas period in the Hull area; and how many of these will be persons now unemployed.
About 870 extra temporary full-time staff and about 180 part-timers are likely to be needed. Preference is given to suitable unemployed persons. So far 142 applications have been received from unemployed people.
Wireless And Television
Television Receivers, Western Highlands (Cost)
136.
asked the Postmaster-General what is the average cost of providing a television receiver with an adequate service in the Western Highlands of Scotland.
No meaningful estimate of average cost in respect of the whole of the area can be made. The B.B.C. tell me however that the average captial cost per household of serving the Great Glen was of the order of £30. Any extensions in the more remote areas would work out at a much higher cost per household.
Bbc 2 (Wales)
asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the facts that the B.B.C.2 service will only be available to some 40 per cent. of viewers in Wales by 1970 and that this proportion is lower than the corresponding percentage figure for England, if he will ascertain what proposals there are for improving the situation.
The extension of the coverage of B.B.C.2 is primarily the responsibility of the Corporation. They tell me that, on the basis of revised estimates they have just completed, B.B.C.2 should achieve a population coverage in Wales of some 60 per cent. by about 1970. The Corporation envisage further extension of the coverage of B.B.C.2 by the provision of additional relay stations, and of a high powered station in Cardiganshire; but it is too early yet to say when these stations are likely to be built.
Telephone Service
Waiting Lists
asked the Postmaster-General how many citizens in the Ashington and Morpeth area are on the waiting list for telephone services; how long they have been waiting; and what is now the average waiting period.
Leaving aside orders under inquiry or being met, there are no applicants waiting for telephone service at Ashington. At 31st October, 1966, there were 41 applicants at Morpeth. The exchange is being extended, and all those now waiting should be connected by 25th November. No applicant has waited longer than 5 months. The average period has been two months.
asked the Postmaster-General how many applicants for telephones are on the waiting list in Stalybridge, Hyde, Dukinfield, Longdendale and Tintwistle, respectively.
These districts do not all coincide with telephone exchange boundaries. The estimated figures at 31st October, 1966, were:—
| District | Applications on waiting list | |||
| Stalybridge | … | … | … | 2 |
| Hyde | … | … | … | 257 |
| Dukinfield | … | … | … | 88 |
| Longdendale | … | … | … | 1 |
| Tintwistle | … | … | … | 8 |
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Salmon Disease
138.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what conclusions he has now reached about the cause of the mortality of salmon in Irish rivers.
The cause of the mortality is still under investigation by scientists in Ireland and in this country, and no conclusions can as yet be stated.
139.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will describe the measures now taken to minimise the risk of salmon disease occurring in English rivers, including the erection of barriers to prevent the entry of diseased fish to clean spawning areas; and what advice he is giving about the effectiveness of inoculating clean fish.
| TRENDS OF AGRICULTURAL OUTPUT AND FOOD IMPORTS | ||||||||
| Total Agricultural Output (valued at 1954–1956/57 constant prices) | Imports of live Animals, Food and Feedingstuffs (valued at 1961 constant orices) | |||||||
| Year (June-May) | £ million | In Index Form 1961/62 = 100 | Year | £ million | In Index Form 1961 = 100 | |||
| 1961/62 | … | … | … | 1,738 | 100 | 1961 | 1,337 | 100 |
| 1962/63 | … | … | … | 1,807 | 104 | 1962 | 1,409 | 105 |
| 1963/64 | … | … | … | 1,842 | 106 | 1963 | 1,364 | 102 |
| 1964/65 | … | … | … | 1,931 | 111 | 1964 | 1,395 | 104 |
| 1965/66 (forecast) | … | … | … | 1,986 | 114 | 1965 | 1,372 | 103 |
Civic Restaurants (Middlesbrough)
141.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why, when the accounts of the council for the county borough of Middlesbrough in respect of their civic restaurants have shown
In the Cumberland and Lancashire River Authority areas, where disease has recently broken out, the River Authorities have been authorised under the Diseases of Fish Act to remove all dead or dying fish from rivers in their areas by all suitable methods and to destroy them. Movement of live fish and fish eggs out of the areas is prohibited except under my right hon. Friend's authority. Both River Authorities are using or proposing to use barriers in rivers to catch diseased fish and prevent them from reaching the spawning grounds. The Ministry will give advice on the question of prophylactic treatment of healthy fish as soon as it is in a position to do so.
Agricultural Production (Growth)
140.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what contribution British agriculture is making to the balance of payments problem by its increased productivity; whether he will give figures in monetary terms showing this for the past four years; and what is his estimate for the next two years.
I regret that precise estimates cannot be made. There is no doubt however that, as the following table indicates, the growth of agricultural production in recent years has helped substantially to contain the growth of imports. Under the selective expansion programme the industry is expected to make a further contribution to import saving by meeting a major part of the increasing demand for temperate foodstuffs.a deficit in each of six consecutive years, he has postponed the operation of Section 3(2) of the Civic Restaurants Act 1947 as respects that deficit; and in authorising such postponement, what conditions he has imposed.
My right hon. Friend postponed for one year the operation of Section 3(2) of the Civic Restaurants Act 1947, in respect of the civic restaurants of the county borough of Middlesbrough because he considered that they would, within a reasonable period, be able to defray expenditure out of income. The conditions on which the postponement was granted related to reductions in capital expenditure, avoidance of forward commitments, and the taking of all necessary steps to ensure a profit.
Farm Grants And Subsidies (Wales And Monmouthshire)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the sum total of grants and subsidies, other than deficiency payments, paid to farmers in Wales in the year ended 31st December, 1965.
£10·3 million (Wales and Monmouthshire).
Land Reclamation (Wales)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will cause a survey to be made of tracts of land available for reclamation in Wales.
Officers in this Department have been engaged over the past two years on a systematic survey of land classification in Wales. The maps when completed will show the location of land, mainly rough grazings, of low agricultural value at present: and will thus give some indication of the land which might be suitable for reclamation. Grants for the improvement of land by way of drainage and other works including reclamation are being made regularly by the Ministry.
Tenant Farmers (Disturbance Compensation)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now introduce legislation to give improved compensation to tenant farmers who are dispossessed by compulsory purchase orders in respect of non-agricultural development; and if he will make a statement.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to a similar Question by the hon. Member for Leominster (Sir Clive Bossom) on 2nd November—[Vol. 735, c. 93.]
Hill Sheep Subsidy
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will expedite payment of the Hill Sheep Subsidy.
I have arranged for advance payment of hill sheep subsidy in England and Wales at the rates of 15s. per ewe in standard-rate flocks and 8s. per ewe in reduced-rate flocks. Application forms will shortly be sent out to farmers who received subsidy on the previous occasion, and we shall start paying as soon as possible after the completed forms have been returned.
Scotland
Hospitals (Old People)
142.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what extra hospital facilities have been provided to deal with old people who may be seriously affected by winter conditions.
This information is not available centrally, but I am sure that the hospital authorities with their long experience will not be caught unawares by seasonal fluctuations in illness.
Colleges Of Education Teachers (Salaries And Pensions)
144.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he intends to take after the statutory control of wages ends to see that college of education teachers are put on the same footing for salaries as other Scottish teachers and, in particular, that college of education teachers who have retired during the period do not experience a permanent reduction in pension.
I have already notified to the colleges of education revised salary scales payable from 1st January, 1967, with effect from 1st October, 1966, in accordance with the deferment provisions of Cmnd. 3073. There is no power to make any compensatory adjustment of pension entitlement, which would in any case be inconsistent with the prices and incomes policy.
Fishing Industry (Credit Facilities)
143.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied that credit facilities at present are adequate for the needs of the fishing industry, in particular for the purchase of boats; and if he will make a statement.
As my hon. Friend, the Joint Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State told the House on 29th July a review of the fishing industry is in progress. Without prejudice to our conclusions from this review, I consider that. with the existing credit facilities the modernisation of the Scottish fishing fleet is proceeding satisfactorily.—[Vol. 732, c. 2081.]
International Bureau Of Education
145.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will direct the Scottish Education Department to apply for separate membership of the International Bureau of Education, in view of the differences between the Scottish and English educational systems.
No. Present arrangements for United Kingdom membership make adequate provision for my Department being represented at the Bureau's annual conferences on public education and taking part in compiling the United Kingdom contributions to the Bureau's publications and reports.
Probation Officers (Pay)
146.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that, owing to the Government's wages and prices standstill, in some cases senior men in the Probation Service are earning less than the officers subordinate to them; and if he will redress this situation.
I am aware of the position, which is a necessary consequence of the present standstill on all forms of salary increases.
Geriatric Hospital Beds, Ayrshire (Waiting List)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of patients on the present geriatric waiting list for Ayrshire.
130 persons are waiting for geriatric beds in Ayrshire hospitals.
Housing
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses in Scotland were built before 1875; how many were built before 1916; what proportion of these figures represent of the total number of houses; and what proportion of the total population live in such houses.
Of some 1,750,000 houses in Scotland roughly 700,000 were built before 1916 and 200,000 of these before 1875. Until I have the results of the housing survey which has been carried out I cannot give more precise figures or estimate accurately how many people live in these houses.
General Teaching Council (Recommendations)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he proposes to take on the recommendations recently submitted to him by the General Teaching Council, including the proposal that men should be admitted to the three-year diploma course of training for primary school teachers.
The Council has recommended that men should be admitted to the three-year college of education diploma course for primary school teachers, at present confined to women. As I have informed the Council, I intend to accept this recommendation and to proceed as soon as possible, in conjunction with the teacher training authorities, with the necessary practical arrangements for the admission of men. I have also accepted the Council's recommendations that the Schools (Scotland) Code and other relevant regulations should be re-expressed in due course in terms of registered as distinct from certificated teachers; and that registration should be on an annual basis at a fee of £1. I shall shortly be issuing draft regulations accordingly. On the problem of uncertificated teachers the Council has established a working party, a step which I have welcomed.
Hill Sheep Subsidy
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in view of the financial difficulties of many hill sheep farmers, he will make an advance payment of hill sheep subsidy.
Yes. I am aware of these difficulties and I am arranging for an advance payment of 15s. per ewe to be made as quickly as possible under the Hill Sheep Subsidy Scheme. Claims can be submitted any time after 2nd December; and the sooner farmers send them in the sooner payments will be made.
Dental Operating Technicians
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many dental operating technicians are employed by which local authorities in Scotland.
Complete information about the numbers of dental technicians employed by local authorities is not available centrally, but I understand that Glasgow employ five, Edinburgh two, Lanark County two, Stirling County one. and Dunbarton County one.
Ministry Of Defence
Armed Services (Rationalisation And Reorganisation)
147.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps are being taken to integrate ancillary departments of the Armed Services, such as education, chaplains, provision of food and medical aid; and if he will make a statement.
I would refer the hon. and learned Member to what was said on the subject of rationalisation and reorganisation in Part II of the Statement on the Defence Estimates, 1966.
Communications And Reconnaissance Satellites
149.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether an agreement has yet been signed between the Governments of Great Britain and the United States of America under which American firms will be invited to build two satellites for the use of British defence communications; and what is the anticipated cost of the satellites.
The nature of the agreement was given in my reply on 22nd November to a Question by the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall). We and the United States Government are in the process of inviting potential contractors to forward their proposals for providing launchers and satellites and it would not be in the public interest to say what we estimate the programme will cost.—[Vol. 736, c. 261–2.]
Service Catering Departments (Meat Supplies)
148.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what directions are given to the catering departments of the various Services with regard to the purchase of British produced meats of all kinds in preference to foreign produced meats.
Service contractors supply meat from Britain, Australia, New Zealand or South America according to price and availability.
Meteorological Services (Bristol Airport)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now open a meteorological office at Bristol Airport, in view of the build-up in traffic and the services that such an office could make available to Bristol as a whole.
The policy for the provision of meteorological services by the Government for civil aviation in the United Kingdom is a matter for the Board of Trade. I am not aware of any dissatisfaction with the services currently provided by the Meteorological Office for aircraft using Bristol (Lulsgate) Airport.The Meteorological Office serves the general public in the Bristol area through the press, broadcasting, the Automatic Telephone Weather Service and the telephone inquiry service at the main meteorological office at Gloucester. The Office also provides specialised services for industrial and commercial customers by arrangement with them. The facilities are widely used, and are considered adequate for present needs.
Meteorological Office (Scientific Assistants)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the number of the scientific assistant grade in the Meteorological Office last year; how many class to class promotions were made during this period; and how this number compares with each of the previous three years.
The average strength of the scientific assistant class in the Met serological Office in 1965 was:—
| Senior Scientific Assistants | … | 267 |
| Scientific Assistants | … | 1,244 |
| Senior Scientific Assistants | Scientific Assistants | Total | ||
| 1962 | … | 4(3) | 27(4) | 31(7) |
| 1963 | … | 10 (9) | 20(3) | 30 (12) |
| 1964 | … | 1 (1) | 22(3) | 23 (4) |
| 1965 | … | 7(7) | 29(−) | 36(7) |
| 22 (20) | 98 (10) | 120 (30) | ||
British Forces, Aden (Meat Supplies)
150.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what percentage of the beef consumed by British forces in Aden is imported from Rhodesia.
None.
Weather Forecasts
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the Press forecast issued by the Central Forecast Office at 1755 hours on 3rd November for the South-West of England in view of the actual weather; and whether this forecast was assessed as good, moderate or bad.
The forecast issued at 1755 hours on 3rd November was for broadcasting purposes and I gave the text of this in my Answer to the hon. Member on 10th November. The forecast for South-West England issued to the Press at 1900 hours was:—
This forecast was also assessed as moderate.—[Vol. 735, c. 355.]"Becoming cloudy with outbreaks of rain. Winds light and variable, becoming southerly, moderate. Cold, maximum 8° Centigrade (46° Fahrenheit)".
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what instructions are issued to Meteorological Office staff engaged in checking forecasts for their guidance.
Meteorological Office staff are instructed to carry out extensive checks on the forecasts issued both for aviation and other purposes. The system of checking is adapted to the type of work to be checked and to the particular meteorological variables in question.For daily forecasting purposes the United Kingdom is divided into seven regions. The elements of each regional forecast are subsequently checked against the actual nature of the weather (e.g. wet, stormy or foggy), the wind, the cloud amount and the maximum temperature. The accuracy of each forecast element is assessed as good, moderate or bad by Meteorological Office staff in each region. The judges are staff at offices other than those which make the forecasts and have no hand in their making. No system of checking is perfect, but the judges try to assess the forecasts as intelligent laymen, and the results give a reasonable guide to the usefulness of the forecasts to the public. The overall accuracy of forecasts is about 75 per cent. for those issued at 5.55 p.m. for the following day and about 80 per cent. for those issued at 7.55 a.m. for the same day.
Flood Warnings
asked the Secretary of State for Defence, in view of the heavy rainfall in the 24 hours from 09.00 hours, 4th November, 1966, and serious flooding that occurred in the south-west of England, why no special warnings were relayed to the public by wireless or television.
The Meteorological Office is not responsible for issuing flood warnings, for the reason given in my reply to the hon. Member's Question on 10th November.—[Vol. 735, c. 356.] Research into rainfall forecasting is proceeding, but it is still technically difficult to predict amounts with much accuracy, especially over an area as small as that around Bristol in which the heaviest rain fell on 4th and 5th November. The Office forecast heavy rain for these dates and warned river authorities. Appreciable rain was not recorded at Bristol (Filton) until after 4 p.m. on 4th November. Although it was subsequently heavy at times, the hourly falls varied considerably. By 11 p.m. the total was about 1 in., which is not an exceptional amount. By 6 a.m. on 5th November, another ¾ in. had fallen, and heavy rain continued. The Office then asked the B.B.C. to report in their radio news bulletins on the substantial rainfall which had occurred in the area overnight and the likelihood of its continuance. At that time of day this was considered to be the quickest way of reaching a wide section of the public. I am glad to say that the B.B.C. promptly complied with the Office's request from 6 a.m. onwards.
Royal Ordnance Factories (Machine Tools)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the sterling value of machine tools ordered for Royal Ordnance factories for each of the years ended 31st December, 1964, 1965 and for the current year to date; and what was the proportion, the sterling value and the types of machines ordered from overseas manufacturers for the same periods.
Following is the information:
| Total | Overseas Element | Proportion | |
| £ | £ | per cent. | |
| 1964 | 962,000 | 334,000 | 35 |
| 1965 | 1,072,000 | 172,000 | 16 |
| Current year to date | 1,435,000 | 480,000 | 33 |
Boulters Lodge (Road Widening)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence when his Department's road-widening scheme at Boulters Lodge, H.M.S. "Dryad", on Southwick Road, C.40, will commence.
My right hon. Friend has no proposals for road-widening at Boulters Lodge. My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary will write to the hon. lady as soon as possible about the future of this property.
Barracks (London)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the names and locations of all military barracks in London, both regular and territorial, the number of personnel in each, the purposes on which such personnel are engaged, the acreage of each site, and the estimated market value of each site.
I regret that this information could only be obtained by a disproportionate expenditure of time and money.
Home Department
Wormwood Scrubs Prison (Security)
151.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he gave instructions that immediate action should be taken in order to remedy the defects in security at Wormwood Scrubs Prison which had been revealed in the report which the Director of Prison Security submitted on 29th April, 1966; and on what date he gave these instructions.
I gave instructions in June for additional security measures at Wormwood Scrubs and other prisons.
Robert Maxwell
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department under what conditions Robert Maxwell is now being detained; and what precautions have been taken in order to prevent further assaults on prison officers.
I have nothing at present to add to the reply I gave on 17th November to a Question by the right hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter).—[Vol. 736, c. 151 and 152.] and to the replies I gave on 3rd November to Questions by the hon. Members for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) and for Poole (Mr. Murton).—[Vol. 735, c. 143 and 144.] Maxwell, except when undergoing psychiatric treatment, is still in solitary confinement. He is under continual surveillance throughout.
Quarter Sessions (Increases Of Sentences)
152.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he will take to remove from Quarter Sessions the power to increase sentences.
This is a matter which is within the competence of the Royal Commission on Assizes and Quarter Sessions, and it would therefore be wrong to take any steps about it at present.
Perjury (Convictions)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were charged and convicted in the United Kingdom of the offence of perjury in the last year; and what was the longest sentence of imprisonment awarded.
214 persons were convicted in 1965 in England and Wales of the offence classified in the Criminal Statistics as perjury, which included false statements, declarations and representations. Nine persons were convicted in Scotland of the offence classified as perjury and subornation. The statistics, while not giving the length of individual sentences, show that the longest sentence of imprisonment imposed was in the range between two and three years.
Plaid Cymru (Police Visits)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for reports on how many members of Plaid Cymru have been visited by the police since 5th March this year, on the reasons for these visits, and on how many known members of other political parties in Wales have had police visits in the same period; and if he will make a statement.
I regret that I cannot undertake to obtain this information. I am aware that over 500 persons were interviewed by the police in connection with a serious explosion at the site of the Clywedog Dam on 6th March, and that of these very few were known to be members of Plaid Cymru.
Race Relations Act
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will amend the Race Relations Act so that it cannot be used against non-racial demonstrators.
The Race Relations Act does not touch non-racial demonstrators, except in so far as it included an amendment to the Public Order Act, 1936. This latter Act clearly has a wider application.
Overseas Development
Diplomatic Relations
153.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many countries in receipt of British aid are currently not in diplomatic relations with Her Majesty's Government.
Three.
"Overseas Development"
154.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what is the anticipated annual gross cost to public funds of the bi-monthly journal, "Overseas Development".
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what is the estimated annual cost of the production of the official publication, "Overseas Development".
£4,498 including salaries of two staff together amounting to £3,069.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development if the columns of his information department's publication, "Overseas Development", will be available to those academics, businessmen and politicians who believe Government-to-Government aid is a misdirected attempt to develop the resources of poorer countries.
The primary purpose of the publication is to provide information, particularly to people working overseas, about British help in the development of overseas countries. This, as the editorial in the first issue makes clear, includes not only official aid, but also the contribution of private enterprise and voluntary organisations. As the editorial also makes clear, we hope that "Overseas Development" will not only spread knowledge, but will also promote discussion of the issues and the exchange of ideas. I am sure that the Editor will welcome anything which usefully contributes to these purposes.
Developing Countries (Economic Aid)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what is the amount of overseas aid given in the years 1965 and 1966; and what is the percentage of Great Britain's gross national product thus given, compared with the percentage for France, Belgium. Germany, Italy and the United States of America, respectively.
In 1965 gross official economic aid from the United Kingdom to developing countries was £196 million. The figure for 1966 is not yet available. In terms of the recommendations of the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development of 1964 percentages of national income are normally expressed in respect of net official flows plus net private flows. These figures are given in the first column of the table below. Percentages of national income relating to official flows of financial resources are only available for other countries net of capital repayments. These figures are shown in the second column of the table. I should explain that the usual meaning of national income is net national product at factor cost. Comparable figures for other countries are only available on this basis. Calculations based on gross national product would, however, have little effect on the relative position of countries to each other.
| Col. I | Col. II | |||
| per cent. | per cent. | |||
| France | … | … | 1·88 | 1·08 |
| Belgium | … | … | 1·81 | 0·90 |
| United Kingdom | 114 | 0·61 | ||
| United States | … | … | 0·98 | 0·67 |
| West Germany | … | … | 0·83 | 0·50 |
| Italy | … | … | 0·65 | 0·22 |
Malawi (Grant)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development if he will make a statement on the recent financial talks with the Government of Malawi.
For 1967, the British Government have offered to provide the Malawi Government with a grant of up to £4·6 million budgetary aid, and £2·8 million (including £0·3 million carried forward from 1966) for development, mainly in the form of an interest-free loan. These amounts form part of the British Government's existing three-year commitment of aid to Malawi, which includes £8 million of development aid, and budgetary aid to be negotiated annually within a ceiling of £5·3 million per annum. Details were given by my right hon. Friend's predecessor in answer to a Question by my hon. Friend on the 21st December, 1965.—[Vol. 722, c. 403–4.]If the amount of budgetary aid actually required should prove to be less than the amount offered for 1967 or 1968, the British Government have offered, as an added incentive to reduce Malawi's dependence on external budgetary assistance, to make available to the Malawi Government 50 per cent. of any such savings arising in those years, in the form of an additional interest-free loan for approved development projects in the following year.The British Government have offered to provide an additional interest-free loan of £810,000 to enable the Malawi Government to meet its share of the increased costs of compensation payments to officers designated under the Overseas Service Aid Scheme.Parliament will in due course be asked to provide the necessary funds.The British Government have also agreed to waive certain contingent liabilities of the Malawi Government arising from the costs of the 1914–18 East African campaigns.The two Governments will hold further discussions in a year's time about the level of budgetary and other aid for 1968, and also the question of aid for subsequent years.
Social Security
Earnings-Related Benefits (Ex-Service Men)
155.
asked the Minister of Social Security whether under her regulations ex-Service men, on leaving the Service, are entitled to the new earnings-related unemployment and sickness benefits; whether these benefits are based on maximum emoluments, including lodging and compensation allowances; and whether she will make a statement on the general new position of ex-Service men.
Ex-Service men are entitled to the new supplement to unemployment and sickness benefit on exactly the same terms as other claimants, i.e., on the basis of their "average weekly earnings" as defined in Section 2 of the National Insurance Act, 1966. Broadly speaking this means that apart from pensions all emoluments received in a particular tax year, assessable to Schedule E Income Tax and taxed through P.A.Y.E., will count for benefit purposes.
Earnings-Related Supplement (Widows Of Service Men)
asked the Minister of Social Security whether under her regulations widows of Service men, who are not granted a war widow's pension, are entitled to the new earnings-related widow's benefit of one-third of their late husband's earnings over £9 per week; whether the husband's earnings are the maximum emoluments, including lodging and compensation allowances; and whether she will make a statement on the general new position of Service men's widows.
The widow of a Service man dying on or after 5th October, 1966, qualifies for an earnings-related supplement to National Insurance widow's allowance in the same way as any other widow, subject to adjustment where some other pension or allowance is payable from public funds. The "average weekly earnings" taken into account are the same as for the supplements to unemployment and sickness benefit.
Education And Science
Church Of England School, Woodham Ferrers
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will institute an inquiry as a matter of urgency into the insanitary conditions, including an alleged infestation by rats, at the Church of England school at Woodham Ferrers, Chelmsford, Essex.
Inquiries I have made show that recent reports on the conditions at this school have been exaggerated. Although the premises are old, the local Medical Officer of Health has not found sufficient grounds to recommend closure of the school. Following his report, steps have been taken by the authorities to improve conditions, in particular to discourage entry by vermin. My right hon. Friend gave final approval earlier this year to plans for rebuilding the school and it now rests with the Managers to make a start.
Local Government
Circular No 26/66
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government which local authorities in Kent have not yet replied to his circular number 26/66.
In paragraph 16 of Circular No. 26/66 all county councils and county borough councils which had gypsies at the time of the census were asked for progress reports by the middle of next month. No reply has yet come from Kent County Council which is the only authority involved in Kent. As the hon. Member knows, Sevenoaks R.D.C. has sent my right hon. Friend a report on the situation in its area.
Greater London Boroughs (Ownership)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what areas of each borough in the Greater London area are owned by the borough council and by the Greater London Council; and what percentage of the total area of the boroughs these figures represent; and which of these areas are allocated for housing and other purposes, respectively.
This information could be obtained only by inquiry from each of the local authorities concerned. I understand that while authorities have this information, many do not keep it in the form asked for; and my right hon. Friend does not think the work involved in assembling it would be justified.
Ministry Of Labour
Industrial Training Boards (Professions)
asked the Minister of Labour if he will seek to establish an industrial training board for solicitors and other professions.
No. The Act empowers me to establish industrial training boards for activities of industry and commerce, but I am advised that this power does not extend to a profession.
Redeployment (Criteria)
asked the Minister of Labour if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT the criteria by which his Department establishes which firms have activities of special economic importance when advising registered unemployed of vacancies available.
I would refer the Hon. Member to my speech of 24th October in the debate on redeployment, in which I described the criteria used for this purpose.
Cadeby Main Colliery (Strike)
asked the Minister of Labour if he will investigate immediately
| Men | Boys | Women | Girls | Total | |||||
| Ardrossan | … | … | … | … | 430 | 25 | 256 | 21 | 732 |
| Largs | … | … | … | … | 95 | 4 | 37 | 4 | 140 |
| Rothesay | … | … | … | … | 198 | 6 | 82 | 12 | 298 |
| Stevenston | … | … | … | … | 267 | 7 | 129 | 7 | 410 |
Board Of Trade
Trade Balance
asked the President of the Board of Trade by how many £ million sterling the latest trade gap improvement has been achieved by the running down of work in progress, and/or a reduction in national stocks; and, in view of the fact that production is no greater, what kind of internal consumption has been cut.
The information asked for is not available, but recently there has almost certainly been some deferment of imports subject to the import charge, accompanied by some running down in the stocks of these goods. The improvement in the trade balance, however, owes a good deal to the recent high level of exports.
the dispute at the Cadeby Colliery near Mexborough where 1,700 miners are on strike over the National Coal Board's recently introduced national power agreement, which cuts across the customs carried out at Cadeby for 50 years.
The strike at Cadeby Main Colliery is unofficial and in breach of the coalmining industry's disputes procedure. I understand the men concerned are refusing to operate an agreement reached between the National Coal Board and the National Union of Mineworkers in June last designed to make more economical use of manpower and adequately to reward the coal-face workers on a time basis. I am assured that officials of the union are making every effort to secure a resumption of work in accordance with the agreement. I do not consider that an investigation by me at present would be appropriate or helpful.
Unemployment (Ardrossan, Largs, Rothesay And Stevenston)
asked the Minister of Labour if he will give the unemployment figures in the areas covered by the employment exchanges at Ardrossan, Largs, Rothesay and Stevenston.
Total numbers registered as unemployed at 14th November 1966
Exports
asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the proportion, in terms of value, of exports to total production for the United Kingdom, for England and Wales and for Scotland.
About 17 per cent. of the value of the gross domestic product of the United Kingdom is exported (taking goods and services together). Separate information for England and Wales and for Scotland is not available.
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state the value of exports from Scotland in each of the past five years, in particular to the European Economic Community, the European Free Trade Association, Eastern Europe, the Commonwealth and the United States of America, respectively.
The total value of United Kingdom exports moved through Scottish seaports and Prestwick airport was as follows:
| £'000 | ||||
| 1961 | … | … | … | 237,897 |
| 1962 | … | … | … | 238,810 |
| 1963 | … | … | … | 253,450 |
| 1964 | … | … | … | 274,147 |
| 1965 | … | … | … | 307,965 |
Commercial Trailers (Hire-Purchase Restrictions)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that the hire-purchase restrictions applied on 20th July, 1966, are affecting the purchase of trailers that form an integral part of a commercial articulated vehicle; and, in view of the fact that the commercial vehicles themselves are excluded from these restrictions, if he will amend the order so as to exclude trailers attached to commercial vehicles.
My right hon. Friend told the interested organisations last June that he was prepared to issue licences exempting commercial trailers from the hire-purchase restrictions. My right hon. Friend is now considering whether it would be practicable to exclude them altogether.
Public Building And Works
Bricks (Stocks)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what proportion of the surplus stock of 700 million bricks is a consequence of the impact of industrialised building and the shortfall in housebuilding, respectively; and when he will give the brick making industry a realistic target.
The decline in the demand for bricks since 1964 results primarily from the decline in private housing starts. The increase in the use of other cladding materials is a contributory factor. Industrialised building is only now beginning to affect the situation. A realistic target for the brick-making industry is a matter for discussion with the Economic Development Committee for the Building Industry in the light of the course of the planning operation announced by my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State on 10th November, 1966.—[Vol. 735, c. 341–2.]
House Of Commons (Committee Room Furniture)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what plans exist for the modernisation of furniture and fittings in rooms on the Upper Committee corridor.
I have been asked by the Services Committee of the House to provide Room No. 3 with new furniture next year and this will be done.
Wales
Sea Defence
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what guidance has been given to Welsh local authorities about the financial and other assistance which is available to them to undertake sea defence work.
A general explanatory memorandum on the Coast Protection Act 1949 has been issued and officers of the Welsh Office are always available to give guidance to authorities about the operation of the Act in particular cases.
Welsh Language (Legislation)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will hasten the preparation of legislation on the legal status of the Welsh language in courts of justice in Wales in view of dicta of Mr. Justic Widgery in the Queen's Bench Division of the High Court in the case of R. v. Justices for the Petty Sessional Division of Merthyr ex parte Jenkins.
There is nothing I can add on this subject to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Carmarthen (Mr. Gwynfor Evans) on 3rd November.—[Vol. 735, c. 173.]
National Finance
Ministers' Overseas Visits (Staff)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the total number and cost of staff who have accompanied Ministers on official trips abroad since 20th July.
Pursuant to his reply of 1st November.—[Vol. 735, c. 68]. Following is the information requested:
Total number of staff (including Private Secretaries)—171.
The figures cover journeys up to 18th October.Cost (partly estimated)—£38,700.