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Volume 737: debated on Monday 28 November 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 28th November, 1966

Social Security

Graduated Pension Scheme

21.

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she will review the position of those who have paid into the graduated pension scheme and are now in receipt of retirement pension.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell) on 21st November.—[Vol. 736, c. 215.]

Subsistence (Definition)

31.

asked the Minister of Social Security what steps she is taking to produce a modern definition of subsistence for the purposes of her administration.

The standard of living provided by our benefits is already kept under review in the light of the general standards of the country. I do not think any further measures are called for.

Earnings-Related Benefits (Industrial Injury)

45.

asked the Minister of Social Security what action she is taking to restore the position of those industries which applied for supplementary benefits and now find that the wages related benefits are cancelling this out.

I understand that my hon. Friend is referring to the colliery workers scheme for supplementing industrial injury benefits. Changes made in the scheme on the introduction of earnings-related short-term benefits were agreed by both sides of the industry and my right hon. Friend sees no reason to intervene.

Accidents

asked the Minister of Social Security if she will give the most recent figures showing the number of people injured, and the number of deaths, respectively, from home, work, road, and other industrial causes; and, in view of the fact that accidents and deaths in the home are higher than in any other category, what steps the Government are taking to help those injured in their homes.

The latest available information, which relates to 1965, is set out in the following table:

InjuriesDeaths
Accidents in home or residential institutionNot available8,487
Accidents at work845,000*l,098†
Road accidents390,0007,952
OtherNot availableNot available‡
* New spells of injury benefit commencing in the year ending 5th June, 1965 and payable under the accident provisions of the Industrial Injuries Acts.
† Deaths occurring at work but not necessarily caused by work. In 1965, 661 deaths from accidents were notified to the Ministry of Labour and there were 256 fatal accidents in mining and quarrying.
‡ The figures in the Table are taken from different sources and no "residual" figure can be derived from them. The total number of deaths from accidents recorded by the General Register Offices in 1965 was 20,682.
Subject to the satisfaction of the usual conditions, the cash benefits of the National Insurance and supplementary benefits schemes are available in respect of people who are injured or who die as the result of accidents at home. The services of the National Health Service are available to help all who are injured and welfare services are also provided by local authorities for the permanently and substantially handicapped.

Supplementary Benefits (Claims)

asked the Minister of Social Security how many new applicants she has had for supplementary benefits since the new Ministry of Social Security was established; and what the cost has been to date.

The vast majority are claims to supplementary pension, some two-thirds of which are resulting in pension awards. The first payments are being made today so that no figures of actual cost are yet available.

Family Allowances

asked the Minister of Social Security what increases in family allowances would be necessary to reduce the number of families affected by the wage stop by 50 per cent 75 per cent., and 90 per cent., respectively.

I regret this information is not available. It will be some time before we can get the necessary particulars of the families affected by the wage stop under the new scheme of supplementary benefits which starts today.

asked the Minister of Social Security what information she has from international sources as to which of the Common Market countries have higher family allowances than Great Britain, as a proportion of average earnings; and in which of these countries the allowances are subject to a means test.

Family allowances are higher in all the six Common Market countries than in this country, both absolutely and as a proportion of average earnings. There is a means test for family allowances only in the Federal Republic of Germany in respect of the allowance for the second child in any family where there are no more than two children and in a Netherlands scheme for self-employed persons in respect of the allowance for the first two children in any family.

National Assistance (Owner-Occupiers)

asked the Minister of Social Security how many owner-occupiers received National Assistance grants last year; how many of these were over retirement age; and what was the average value of the properties.

In November, 1965, 223,000 owner-occupiers were receiving regular weekly National Assistance allowances, of whom 178,000 were over pension age. The average value of the properties is not known.

Hospitals

Copthorne Hospital, Shrewsbury

48.

asked the Minister of Health when he expects the new maternity unit at Copthorne Hospital, Shrewsbury, to be in use; and when he expects the out-patient and accident departments, ward accommoda- tion and supporting services to be completed and in use.

The new unit is expected to be in use by late summer next year. It is too early to say when the out-patient and accident departments, ward accommodation and supporting services will be in use.

Road Traffic Accidents (Charges)

52.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will take steps to end the statutory fee for emergency hospital treatment in cases of people injured in road accidents.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Hampstead (Mr. Whitaker) on 14th November, 1966.—[Vol 736, c. 34.]

Psychiatric Patients, Hornsey

56.

asked the Minister of Health if he will hold an inquiry into the proposal to change the hospital serving the constituency of Hornsey under the Mental Health Act 1959 from the Friern Barnet Hospital to the Hill End hospital at St. Albans some 20 miles away from the patients' families and friends.

No. I understand a meeting is being arranged between the Regional Hospital Board and the London Borough of Haringey which I hope will lead to an acceptable solution.

Broadmoor Hospital (Security)

59.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will now make a statement on the strengthening of the security arrangements at Broad-moor Hospital consequent upon the escape of Anthony Amis on 24th October.

Amis escaped because he was able to conceal himself in the outside courts when other patients were called in for the day, because he was not then missed, and because he used part of a wooden shelter bench to surmount two walls. A new procedure for clearing the courts has been introduced, the interval between evening counts of patient has been shortened, and all shelter benches in the courts have been removed.

Hospital Development, Chelsea

60.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will put on public exhibition his plans, and model if any, for hospital development adjoining Sydney Street, Chelsea.

Detailed planning of the Chelsea Post-graduate Medical Centre has not reached the stage at which this would be possible, but I will consider the hon. Member's suggestion at the appropriate time.

Frenchay Hospital, Bristol (Waiting List)

61.

asked the Minister of Health how the numbers on the waiting list at Frenchay Hospital, Bristol, compare with the figures for each October in the last five years.

The number was 4,630 at 30th September this year. This compares with 2,043, 2,502, 3,216 and 3,866 in the years 1962–65 respectively.

Nurses (Minimum Age)

63.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will make representations to the nursing association concerned to reduce the age of entry to the nursing profession.

DateCost of Living IndexStaff Nurse (Male) Minimum IndexAncillary Staffs Council Basic Grade (Male) IndexStaff Nurse (Male) Actual Minimum Annual SalaryAncillary Staff Council Grades (Male) Actual Weekly Pay
1948 = 100·0
£s.d.
5th July, 1948100·0100·0100·0276860
1st July, 1950103·6125·0116·33451000
1st July, 1955136·4159·4165·74401426
1st July, 1960155·0199·5206·65501778
1st July, 1964176·5242·8239·16702058
1st July, 1966192·5268·1263·67402268

Note.—In addition to pay increases the length of the standard working week was reduced as follows:—

Nursing Staff—reduced from 48 hours to 44 in 1960, and to 42 in 1966.

Ancillary Staffs Council Staff—reduced from 48 hours to 46 in 1957, to 44 in 1958, to 42 in 1961 and to 40 in 1966.

Geriatric And Maternity Beds (South Bedfordshire)

asked the Minister of Health how many geriatric and maternity beds, respectively, are available in the South Bedfordshire area; and what steps he is taking to increase the supply.

The General Nursing Council decided in 1965 not to reduce the age of entry to student or pupil nurse training but to keep the question under review. The Council is aware that I favour a reduction.

Roehampton Limb Fitting Centre

67.

asked the Minister of Health what action has been taken to end the work-to-rule by limb fitters at Roehampton following the recent appeal made by Her Majesty's Government.

The employers and the union have met again and negotiations continue. I am keeping in close touch with the Ministry of Labour and the employers. Meanwhile I am doing everything possible to lessen the inconvenience to patients attending the Roehampton centre.

Mental Hospitals (Staff Pay)

asked the Minister of Health how the rates of pay of staff in mental hospitals compare with the rise of the cost of living, in 1939, 1945, 1950, 1955, 1960, 1964, and 1966.

The table below gives figures for two representative grades of staff since the start of the National Health Service:

One hundred and fifty-three beds for geriatric and chronic sick, and 111 maternity beds. Work is expected to start on site next year on 46 additional geriatric beds, and early in 1968 on 73 additional maternity beds. There may be further small increases in the number of geriatric beds and the Regional Hospital Board plan to establish later a 25–30 bed general practitioner maternity unit.

Ministry Of Health

Spectacle Frames

50.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will undertake a comprehensive review of the styles of spectacle frames available under the National Health Service.

I have conducted such a review and have concluded that extension of the range of frames for adults whilst desirable cannot be given high priority in present circumstances. I am still considering the question of frames for children.

Lung Cancer (Deaths)

55.

asked the Minister of Health how many deaths from primary cancer of the lung there were in 1945, 1955, and 1965.

In England and Wales deaths from cancer of the lung specified as primary numbered 11,073 in 1955 and 18,300 in 1965. 6,125 lung cancer deaths in 1955 and 8,098 in 1965 were not specified as either primary or secondary but I am advised that most of these are likely to have been primary. Comparable figures for 1945 are not available.

Dental Health (Sweet Advertisements)

57.

asked the Minister of Health what representations he has had from medical officers of health regarding the effect of advertisements encouraging children to eat sweets between meals and last thing at night; and what reply he has sent.

None recently. But I welcome this opportunity of stressing the importance of dental health education in promoting sound habits of diet and dental care.

Dental Auxiliaries

62.

asked the Minister of Health when he proposes to decide on the future of dental auxiliaries.

The Government accept that dental auxiliaries have a valuable contribution to make to the dental health of the community and is about to consult with the General Dental Council on the steps necessary to establish this class of auxiliary on a permanent basis in the light of the terms of the Dentists Act 1957.

General Practitioners, Wales

65.

asked the Minister of Health what steps he is taking to increase the supply of general practitioners in Wales.

I expect the service in Wales, as in England, to benefit from the improvement in pay and conditions under the new contract I have recently negotiated with the profession; and also eventually from the expansion in the number of places in medical schools.

Handicapped Persons (Review Of Services)

68.

asked the Minister of Health whether the review of the services for the elderly, the chronic sick and the handicapped announced by the then Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in the House of Commons on 10th November 1965 has been completed; and whether the findings will be published.

This was a review carried out by officials to assemble material for consideration by Ministers. It is complete, but it is not the practice to publish the results of such reviews.

Welfare Foods (Entitlement)

69.

asked the Minister of Health what steps he is taking to ensure that all families, whether in receipt of social security benefits or not, are aware of the conditions of entitlement to free welfare foods.

A leaflet explaining entitlement to free welfare foods is supplied with each welfare milk token book. These leaflets are issued also to health service authorities for distribution by medical officers, health visitors, midwives, nurses and others concerned with care of mothers and young children, and posters are displayed in clinics and elsewhere.

Elderly People (Subsidised Meals)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will send a circular to local welfare authorities to encourage them to provide non-residential centres for elderly people to provide meals and snacks at a subsidised cost.

In their development plans published last June local authorities showed their appreciation of the importance of these centres, and my right hon. Friend does not think that a circular is necessary at present.

Ministry Of Labour

Unemployment

71.

asked the Minister of Labour what were the unemployment figures in the Bathgate area at the last available date; and what percentage of the employee population this represents.

On 14th November, 1966 there were 943 persons

INDUSTRIAL ANALYSIS OF THE NUMBERS OF PERSONS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES AT YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES IN SCOTLAND
10th October, 196611th October, 196512th October, 1964
Industry
MalesFemalesTotalMalesFemalesTotalMalesFemalesTotal
Agriculture and Horticulture1,7432622,0051,5322561,7881,6742931,967
Fishing1,44891,4571,242101,2521,45021,452
Bacon curing, meat and fish products206171377235190425293239532
Shipbuilding and Ship repairing1,056411,0971,112441,1561,550481,598
Spinning and doubling cotton, flax and man-made fibres12389212115135250121208329
Bricks, pottery, glass, cement, etc.77911589466910177070796803
Timber339263652722729932925354
Construction9,87713710,0148,6651198,78410,21012310,333
Sea transport1,028211,0491,075241,0991,226261,252
Distributive trades4,2732,8137,0863,8372,9236,7604,6493,4628,111
Entertainment and Sport629156785601172773743212955
Catering hotels, etc.1,7591,7133,4721,5891,7343,3231,8641,9923,856
Private domestic service954865819356766097584681
Local government service2,1652772,4422,1493052,4542,5512952,846
Other industries and services25,14310,30135,44419,45910,33429,79323,27612,90336,179
Total, all industries and services50,66316,61767,28042,64516,94159,58650,74020,50871,248

registered as unemployed at the Bathgate Employment Exchange.

The percentage rate of unemployment can be calculated only for the "travel to work" area covered by the Bathgate, Broxburn, East Calder and West Calder Employment Exchanges as a whole. At 14th November, the rate was 4·2 per cent.

73.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state by trade the figures for unemployment in Scotland in general, and in Aberdeen in particular, during each of the last five years and up to the latest convenient date.

At 14th November, 1966 there were 78,079 persons registered as unemployed in Scotland, including 2,030 in Aberdeen.The latest figures of which an industrial analysis is available are those for 10th October. Below is a table giving the information relating to Scotland. Comparable figures for Aberdeen were given in my reply to the hon. and learned Member on 24th October.—[Vol. 734, c. 94–6.]Following is the information:

14th October, 1963

15th October, 1962

16th October, 1961

Industry

Males

Females

Total

Males

Females

Total

Males

Females

Total

Agriculture and Horticulture1,9733512,3241,6092671,8761,5062641,770
Fishing2,02542,0291,40441,4081,450231,473
Bacon curing, meat and fish products323251574334275609298253551
Shipbuilding and Ship repairing3,295883,3833,569813,6502,383442,427
Spinning, and doubling of cotton, flax and man-made fibres127264391119305424132342474
Bricks, pottery, glass, cement, etc.9601401,1008851641,049639121760
Timber462344964192444335312365
Construction13,17417913,35312,12913712,2669,1361149,250
Sea transport1,452361,4881,618301,6481,255281,283
Distributive trades6,1264,59410,7205,4993,9669,4654,0183,2197,267
Entertainment and Sport9013141,2158202841,104720208928
Catering, hotels, etc.2,1612,4284,5892,0082,2874,2951,5912,0073,598
Private domestic service133721854108667775110649759
Local government service2,9263343,2602,6422832,9252,2012402,441
Other industries and services29,34315,63344,97628,52114,33942,86020,55511,38331,938
Total, all industries and services65,38125,37190,75261,68423,11384,79746,37718,90765,284

77 and 78.

asked the Minister of Labour (1) if he will give the number of vacancies existing in the Wombwell and Mexborough employment exchange areas;(2) if he will give the numbers of persons in their various categories who are registered as unemployed in the Wombwell and Mexborough employment exchange areas.

Following is the information:

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AT THE WOMBWELL AND MEXBOROUGH EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES AND ASSOCIATED YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES ON 14TH NOVEMBER, 1966
MenBoysWomenGirlsTotal
Wombwell14910307196
Mexborough4694721150777

VACANCIES NOTIFIED BUT UNFILLED AT THE WOMBWELL AND MEXBOROUGH EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES ON 9TH NOVEMBER, 1966

Men

Women

Total

Wombwell2022204
Mexborough1889197

On 9th November at Staincross Youth Employment Office, which also covers Wombwell, Barnsley, Chapeltown and Hoyland, there are 120 unfilled vacancies for boys and 33 for girls. At Mexborough Youth Employment Office, which also covers Goldthorpe, there were 106 unfilled vacancies for boys and 55 for girls.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish a table showing the total numbers and the percentage unemployed in Scotland and in the rest of the United Kingdom in each year from 1945 to the latest convenient date.

Following is the information:—

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES IN SCOTLAND AND IN THE REST OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
ScotlandRest of United Kingdom
Total RegisterPercentage RateTotal RegisterPercentage Rate
12th November, 1945*50,5093·5240,2571·9
11th November, 1946*77,8714·8317,3542·3
10th November, 1947*51,0883·1241,9351·7
15th November, 194862,0203·0292,6391·6
14th November, 194964,1593·0286,4331·5
13th November, 195061,7282·9264,3611·4
12th November, 195156,2972·6266,6621·4
10th November, 195272,1353·4378,1812·0
16th November, 195361,4902·9296,8171·5
15th November, 195455,4642·6237,5871·2
14th November, 195548,6892·2206,7491·0
12th November, 195650,8192·3242,5721·2
11th November, 195756,4432·6293,8251·5
17th November, 195894,8234·4480,6762·4
16th November, 195991,4444·3372,0901·8
14th November, 196074,7963·4310,2431·5
13th November, 196169,3743·2353,9181·7
12th November, 196293,4274·3485,5392·3
11th November, 196392,6904·2415,2721·9
9th November, 196471,4983·3305,2901·4
8th November, 196561,5452·8287,3061·3
14th November, 1966 (Provisional)78,0793·5497,4682·3

* Figures prior to the introduction of the National Insurance Scheme in 1948 are not comparable with those for later years.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the number of persons unemployed in Penzance, St. Ives, St. Mary's, in Helston, and in Cornwall, respectively, in November for each of the last 15 years, including November 1966.

Following is the information:

TOTAL NUMBERS OF PERSONS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED
Penzance, St. Ives and St. Mary'sHelstonCornwall
10th November, 19525921292,939
16th November, 19536761383,560
15th November, 19547691773,669
14th November, 19559831783,607
12th November, 19568641753,658
11th November, 19579402204,738
17th November, 19581,1242705,965
16th November, 19591,1413045,856
14th November, 19609222374,985
13th November, 19611,0322264,637
12th November, 19621,0042756,129
11th November, 19631,0642575,836
9th November, 19648782174,273
8th November, 19658642765,515
14th November, 19661,1014076,513

Bristol Siddeley Engines Limited (Pay Agreement)

70.

asked the Minister of Labour what were the terms of the settlement following the trade dispute in which

his officials were involved between the Draughtsmen and Allied Trades Association and Bristol Siddeley Engines concerning the pay and conditions of draughtsmen employed at Filton, Bristol; and whether he is satisfied that the settlement is not in breach of the Government's prices and incomes standstill.

The agreement made between Bristol Siddeley Engines Limited and the Draughtsmen and Allied Technicians' Association relates to draughtsmen employed at Patchway, Bristol. It provides for the implementation following the six months deferment required by the standsill of pay increases, and for additional holidays which were agreed prior to the 20th July, 1966. It also provides for future negotiations which must be subject to incomes policy requirements as to content and dates of implementation. We are satisfied that this agreement is not a breach of the standstill.

Vacancies (Birmingham)

74.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will give figures for employment vacancies in Birmingham, classified in a manner so as to indicate categories of vacancy which may be suitable for men made redundant by the British Motor Corporation.

The industrial experience of former B.M.C. workers varies widely and it is not possible to classify vacancies in this way. On 9th November there were 3,704 notified vacancies for men in the Birmingham area.

Registered Disabled Persons (Selective Employment Tax)

72.

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will carry out a survey to discover the number of registered disabled persons, whether employed part-time or full-time, in respect of whom the Selective Employment Tax is payable.

No; a reasonably close estimate is that the Selective Employment Tax is payable in respect of 600,000 registered disabled persons of whom about one-third are employed in the service and construction industries and therefore do not qualify for the refund of premium.

Market Research Companies (Graduates)

76.

asked the Minister of Labour what proposals he has to induce market research companies to train graduates; and if he will seek to make financial grants.

British Motor Corporation, Birmingham (Redundant Workers)

75.

asked the Minister of Labour how many of the employees of the British Motor Corporation in Birmingham recently made redundant have been placed in alternative employment by his Department; what proportion of them have been placed in the manufacturing industry; how many are known to be unemployed; and what estimate he makes of the number who have found new jobs without the help of his Department.

In Birmingham, 452 of these workers have been placed by the Ministry and of that number 71 per cent. have gone into manufacturing industries. There are 1,874 registered as unemployed. 614 workers are known to have found jobs without the help of the Ministry but there are approximately 1,700 others about whom no information is available. It is probable that the majority have found employment.

Selective Employment Tax (Registrations)

asked the Minister of Labour how many applications his Department has received for registration of establishments entitled to premiums or refunds of the Selective Employment Tax.

53,151 applications for registration of establishments were received by my Department up to the end of October, 1966. It is important that registrations should be completed by 31st December so that work in connection with the first repayments can go ahead as quickly as possible. I would therefore urge employers who may be eligible for repayments and who have not so far applied to register their establishments to do so without further delay.

Off-The-Job Adult Retraining

asked the Minister of Labour why he has not yet made a statement on his plan for off-the-job adult retraining.

I am hoping to make a statement during the debate on economic affairs later this week.

Occupational Health Service

asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware that millions of days more are lost in industry through sickness and injury than through strikes; and, in view of this fact, what priority he is giving to the establishment of an occupational health service.

We are aware that losses of time through sickness and injury greatly exceed losses through strikes.The Ministry tries to ensure that industrial conditions and processes are kept safe and healthy for people working in industry. It is not possible to say what proportion of absence from work in industry is due to ill-health or injury caused by industrial conditions or processes.

The Ministry of Labour is already very active in the industrial health field. H.M. Factory Inspectorate inspect working conditions and processes to ensure that the standards laid down by the Factories Act 1961, and related Regulations are being complied with, and also give advice to industry as to how working conditions can be improved. My right hon. Friend has recently set up an industrial hygiene laboratory service within the Inspectorate to help develop their work in the industrial hygiene field.

The work of the Appointed Factory Doctor Service has recently been reviewed and we are considering what steps should be taken as a result.

Redundant Workers, Linwood

asked the Minister of Labour how many of those recently made redundant in Linwood have been found employment.

Fifty-nine had been placed by 21st November a further 71 were known to have found work for themselves.

Retired Persons (Unemployment Benefit)

asked the Minister of Labour how many professional people who voluntarily retired before the normal retirement age of 65 years are now drawing unemployment benefits.

Factories (Medical Officers And Nursing Staff)

asked the Minister of Labour how many factories and plants have established medical and nursing services for their employees; and how many factories and plants have not introduced such services.

At the last census in September, 1964, the total number of factories covered by the Factories Act, 1961, was 208,200. Information about the extent of voluntary medical and/or nursing supervision in factories is collected on a continuing basis by H.M. Factory Inspectorate. At the last review in February, 1965, 1,443 factories were known to employ a medical officer alone; 3,620 to employ both a medical officer and nursing staff; and 2,376 to employ nursing staff but no medical officer. The trend is for an increasing number of factories providing medical and/or nursing services.

Retail Prices Index

asked the Minister of Labour what was the percentage increase or decrease in the retail price index between June and September in each of the years 1960 to 1964.

The percentage change in the retail prices index between June and September in each of the years 1960 to 1964 was

1960-0·4 per cent.
1961+0·8 per cent.
1962-1·3 per cent.
1963-0·6 per cent.
1964+0·4 per cent.

Anglo-United Arab Republic Relations

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what steps have been taken by Her Majesty's Government with a view to re-establishing diplomatic relations with the United Arab Republic and to improving Anglo-United Arab Republic relations.

In the light of indications that the United Arab Republic Government might have expressed interest in resuming diplomatic relations with this country I have instituted certain inquiries. As my visit to the Soviet Union coincided with that of Field Marshal Abdul Hakim Amer, I also took the opportunity to have an informal word with him. I cannot forecast whether or not these contacts will lead to a resumption of relations. Her Majesty's Government desire to improve Anglo/United Arab Republic relations but as the House is aware there has to be good will on both sides.

Treaty Of Rome

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what discussions he had during his visit to Bonn on reconciling the Government's wages and incomes policy with the provisions of the Treaty of Rome so as to facilitate the United Kingdom's entry into the European Economic Community.

None. There is nothing in the Treaty of Rome nor in the arrangements made under it that would limit the freedom of the Government to pursue their prices and incomes policy, so that my hon. Friend's question does not arise.

Foreign Secretary (Moscow Visit)

82.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the result of his visit to Moscow.

This visit was a continuation of the talks I had with Mr. Gromyko in New York, but it also provided an opportunity of talking with Mr. Kosygin and Mr. Gromyko together. We talked about international and bilateral questions.My general thought about these talks is that they were refreshing in the frankness that came from both sides. After my visit I am strengthened in my conviction that although we both recognise that there are important differences between us we can do business and we are developing the mutual confidence and trust that is essential to this.Much of our time was devoted to Vietnam. I want to emphasise that this was not a negotiation. Neither of us was in a position to negotiate, or presumed to do so. It was an attempt to exchange thoughts. I think the exchange was useful, and I believe the Soviet side thought so too. It would not be helpful for me to say more, and I must ask the House to excuse me doing so.

89.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on his recent visit to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

This visit was a continuation of the talks I had with Mr. Gromyko in New York, but it also provided an opportunity of talking with Mr. Kosygin and Mr. Gromyko together. We talked about international and bilateral questions.My general thought about these talks is that they were refreshing in the frankness that came from both sides. After my visit I am strengthened in my conviction that although we both recognise that there are important differences between us we can do business and we are developing the mutual confidence and trust that is essential to this.Much of our time was devoted to Vietnam. I want to emphasise that this was not a negotiation. Neither of us was in a position to negotiate, or presumed to do so. It was an attempt to exchange thoughts. I think the exchange was useful, and I believe the Soviet side thought so too. It would not be helpful for me to say more, and I must ask the House to excuse me doing so.

90.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on his visit to Moscow.

This visit was a continuation of the talks I had with Mr. Gromyko in New York, but it also provided an opportunity of talking with Mr. Kosygin and Mr. Gromyko together. We talked about international and bilateral questions.My general thought about these talks is that they were refreshing in the frankness that came from both sides. After my visit I am strengthened in my conviction that although we both recognise that there are important differences between us we can do business and we are developing the mutual confidence and trust that is essential to this.Much of our time was devoted to Vietnam. I want to emphasise that this was not a negotiation. Neither of us was in a position to negotiate, or presumed to do so. It was an attempt to exchange thoughts. I think the exchange was useful, and I believe the Soviet side thought so too. It would not be helpful for me to say more, and I must ask the House to excuse me doing so.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on his visit to Russia.

This visit was a continuation of the talks I had with Mr. Gromyko in New York, but it also provided an opportunity of talking with Mr. Kosygin and Mr. Gromyko together. We talked about international and bilateral questions.

My general thought about these talks is that they were refreshing in the frankness that came from both sides. After my visit I am strengthened in my conviction that although we both recognise that there are important differences between us we can do business and we are developing the mutual confidence and trust that is essential to this.

Much of our time was devoted to Vietnam. I want to emphasise that this was not a negotiation. Neither of us was in a position to negotiate, or presumed to do so. It was an attempt to exchange thoughts. I think the exchange was useful, and I believe the Soviet side thought so too. It would not be helpful for me to say more, and I must ask the House to excuse me doing so.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on his talks with Mr. Gromyko on South Vietnam.

This visit was a continuation of the talks I had with Mr. Gromyko, in New York, but it also provided an opportunity of talking with Mr. Kosygin and Mr. Gromyko together. We talked about international and bilateral questions.My general thought about these talks is that they were refreshing in the frankness that came from both sides. After my visit I am strengthened in my conviction that although we both recognise that there are important differences between us we can do business and are developing the mutual confidence and trust that is essential to this.Much of our time was devoted to Vietnam. I want to emphasise that this was not a negotiation. Neither of us was in a position to negotiate, or presumed to do so. It was an attempt to exchange thoughts. I think the exchange was useful, and I believe the Soviet side thought so too. It would not be helpful for me to say more, and I must ask the House to excuse me doing so.

European Communities (British Mission)

83.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what steps he is taking to strengthen the British mission to the European Communities.

Gibraltar

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he has received the Spanish Government's reply to the proposal to refer the Gibraltar issue to the International Court.

85.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the continued restrictions at the Spanish-Gibraltar frontier will be included in the matters to be submitted to the International Court.

The imposition of the frontier restrictions has raised a legal issue; and we have proposed to the Spanish Government that all the legal issues in dispute concerning Gibraltar should be referred to the Court.

Vietnam

86.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what further steps he has taken in consultation with foreign statesmen with a view to achieving an agreed peace in Vietnam.

During my recent talks in Moscow with Mr. Kosygin and Mr. Gromyko much of our time was devoted to Vietnam. I want to emphasise that this was not a negotiation. Neither of us was in a position to negotiate, or presumed to do so. It was an attempt to exchange thoughts. I think the exchange was useful, and I believe the Soviet side thought so too. It would not be helpful for me to say more, and I must ask the House to excuse me doing so.

Rumania And Hungary (Bonded Debts)

88.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the recent discussions with Rumania on her bonded debt; and what steps he is taking to have further talks with Hungary on similar problems.

The negotiations with the Rumanians, which opened in Bucharest on 21st November are still in progress. On the Hungarian Bonded debt I have nothing to add to the replies of 24th October and 14th November by my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary and my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, respectively.

Aden (Mr Bowen's Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will now make a statement on Mr. Roderic Bowen's report on Aden.

Education And Science

Hull University (New Medical School)

91.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received for the establishment of a new medical school at the University of Hull; and what reply he has sent.

The University Grants Committee is examining this proposal together with similar ones received from a number of other universities.

Homework (Guidance To Headmasters)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what guidance he gives to the headmasters of day schools as to the amount of homework they give their pupils.

University College Of Wales (Building Programme)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what building programme it is estimated will be approved by his Department for the University College of Wales, Aberystwyth, by 1970.

The allocation of the university building programme is a matter for the University Grants Committee.

Building Programmes, Wales (Value)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the value of approved school building projects in Wales for each year in the period 1955–66.

The value of approved building programmes for the period is as follows:

Financial yearMajor projectsMinor projects
Thousands of £'s
1955–563,774619
1956–573,763620
1957–581,469602
1958–592,016720
1959–601,770920
1960–613,1531,285
1961–623,8771,000
1962–633,550
1963–642,535934
1964–653,549950
1965–665,4001,500
1966–675,4001,730

Notes:

(1) In December, 1958 the upper limit of cost for individual minor projects was raised from £10,000 to £20,000.

(2) The value of projects receiving final building approval is given in the Digest of Welsh Statistics, No. 12.

Home Department

Wormwood Scrubs Prison

92.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the strengthening of the bars on the windows in D Wing at Wormwood Scrubs Prison was among the recommendations which the Director of Prison Security submitted with his report on 29th April 1966; and why this work had not been carried out by 26th October 1966.

93.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners escaped from Wormwood Scrubs Prison between 29th April 1966 and 30th October 1966.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what date in June 1966 he gave instructions for additional security measures at Wormwood Scrubs Prison.

State Management Scheme (Staff Pay Increases)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in the period of severe restraint, he will ensure that all employed in the State Management Scheme, whose increases were delayed, will be granted their increases at the earliest opportunity; and if he will make a statement.

Any increases in pay for the staff concerned will be subject to the provisions of the White Paper "Prices and Incomes Standstill: Period of Severe Restraint".

Board Of Trade

Austria (Customs Union With Eec)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what studies he has made of the possibilities of trade distortion if Austria establishes a customs union with the European Economic Community whilst still remaining a member of the European Free Trade Association.

I see no reason to make a detailed study of this question in present circumstances.

Investment Grants

94.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made in establishing the administrative machinery necessary to administer the investment grants under Part I of the Industrial Development Act 1966; and when application forms will be available to industry.

Application forms for investment grants, and a free explanatory booklet about the scheme, may now be obtained from the five Investment Grants Offices whose addresses are given below. These Offices will be ready to receive applications from 16th January, 1967, in respect of expenditure incurred by applicants during the period 17th January to 31st March, 1966. Payment of grants will begin in July, 1967.

The addresses of the Board of Trade Investment Grants Offices are as follows:

  • Colman House,
  • Victoria Avenue,
  • SOUTHEND-ON-SEA.
  • 24–26 Newport Road,
  • CARDIFF.
  • Seafield House,
  • Waterloo Road,
  • Seaforth,
  • Crosby,
  • LIVERPOOL, 21.
  • West Precinct,
  • Town Centre,
  • BILLINGHAM,
  • Co. Durham.
  • Magnet House,
  • Waterloo Street,
  • GLASGOW, C.2.

Capital Expenditure (Wales)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the sum of capital expenditure on industry in Wales for each year in the period 1955 to 1966.

The following is the information:

Capital expenditure by manufacturing establishments in Wales
£ million
195553
195649
195767
195862
195960
196091
1961124
196297
196359*
196457*
196556*
*Provisional figures. An estimate for 1966 is not yet available.

Heathrow (Glide Paths)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will give a brief description of the glide paths normally used by aircraft landing at London Airport, and of the direction normally used by aircraft on take-off.

When taking-off and landing at Heathrow, aircraft are normally heading due west. The slope of the glide paths for landing under instrument approach procedures is three degrees. When traffic is heavy aircraft are required not to descend below 2,000 feet before intercepting the glide path at about 6 n.m. from touchdown point. When traffic is light aircraft are kept at 2,500 feet or more before intercepting at about 8 n.m.

Steel Products (Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will give the amount, in tons, of imported steel for the years 1961 to 1965, respectively.

The following is the information:

United Kingdom imports of finished and semi-finished steel products*
YearThousand tons
1961450
1962760
19631,190
19641,540
1965560
* Includes ingots, blooms, billets, slabs; coils; rails; plate and sheet; bars; rods; sections; hoop and strip; tubes, pipes and fittings; castings and forgings.
Note: The figures for 1961 and 1962 are not strictly comparable with those for later years because of small differences in classification.
IMPORTS IN 1965
£ million
CommodityS.I.T.C. Code (a)Sterling Area (b)North AmericaEuropean Economic Community
Food and beveragesSection 0 + Division 11752221178
Raw materialsSections 2 + 4584218161
Manufactured goods:
chiefly for further processingSections 5 + 6328338303
finished manufacturesSections 7 + 890278336
(a) Standard International Trade Classification (Revised).
(b) Including Rhodesia and Burma, on the definition used in the Overseas Trade Accounts. When Rhodesia and Burma are excluded the figures are £743, £578, £327 and £89 million respectively.

Ministers' Overseas Visits

Mr. Mason [pursuant to his Answer of 27th

October—Vol. 734, c. 202–6.]circulated the following information.

Minister

Date

Place of visit

Purpose

Total Cost or estimated cost (including officials)

£s.d.
President1964
30th Oct. to 4th Nov.ChinaTo open British Industrial Exhibition2,432109
28th to 29th Oct.MoscowGoodwill visit
9th to 10th Nov.GenevaE.F.T.A.108170
16th to 21st Nov.Geneva and BonnE.F.T.A.473910
2nd to 3rd Dec.ParisO.E.C.D.17439
1965
11th to 13th Jan.BrusselsDiscussion with E.E.C. on Kennedy Round103169

Imports (North America And European Economic Community)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what were the values of imports of manufactured goods into the United Kingdom during the year 1965 from the sterling area, North America, and the European Economic Community, respectively;(2) what were the values of raw material imports into the United Kingdom during the year 1965 from the sterling area, North America, and the European Economic Community, respectively;(3) what were the values of imports of food and beverages into the United Kingdom during the year 1965 from the sterling area, North America and the European Economic Community, respectively.

Minister

Date

Place of visit

Purpose

Total Cost or estimated cost (including officials)

£s.d.
Minister of State (Mr. Mason)5th and 22nd to 23rd Feb.GenevaE.F.T.A37770
20th to 27th AprilIndia and PakistanVarious trade talks1,36520
14th to 18th MayAmsterdamTo open British Week22465
25th MayViennaMeeting of Finnefta Council86125
14th to 21st Sept.Japan(1) Opening of British Exhibition (2)Discuss trade for 19663,12814
8th to 13th Oct.Milan British Week29794
28th to 29th Oct.CopenhagenE.F.T.A. Meeting55898
25th to 26th Nov.Paris O.E.C.D16952
1966
23rd AprilAmsterdamAnnual luncheon of Anglo-Dutch Trade CouncilNo charge to public funds
28th April to 1st MayOsloTo open British Fair and Fortnight152120
12th to 13th MayBergenE.F.T.A525102
25th to 27th MayCanadaTo address British Canadian Trade Association46180
6th to 19th JulyMoscowTo visit British Industrial Exhibition48975
18th Sept. to 30th Sept.AustraliaTouring—various trade talks1,40860
20th to 21st Oct.LyonsBritish Week60118
27th to 28th Oct. 1964LisbonE.F.T.A42200
20th to 22nd Dec.1965SwedenTo study the Swedish shipbuilding industry39431
8th to 19th Jan.JapanTo study the Japanese shipbuilding industry. Departmental business in Thailand, San Francisco and New York3,4941710
18th to 20th MayNorwayTo visit the Oslo International Shipping Exhibition19556
12th to 15th Sept.DenmarkTo study the operation of large tanker on voyage from Britain to Denmark, and to visit shipyards58100
22nd to 23rd Nov.1966BelgiumTo open the British store Promotion in Brussels61126
4th Mar.HollandTo visit the International Cycle Exhibition in Amsterdam4980
3rd to 10th MayU.S.S.R.A return visit at invitation of Soviet Government to discuss shipping including possible Anglo-Soviet Navigation Treaty. Visited Soviet shipbuilding centres83503
17th May W. GermanyInterpac Exhibition, Dusseldorf661710
31st May to 3rd JuneNorwayTo attend meeting in Oslo of ministers for shipping in eleven main European maritime nations and Japan161160
8th Sept.Brussels and Bretigny (near Paris)To visit the Headquarters of Euro-control22500
12th to 14th Sept.SwitzerlandTo visit Nuclex '66, the international Nuclear Industries Fair1431111
18th to 29th Sept.Brazil and VenezuelaTo promote British exports1,75824
4th Oct.HollandTo lay foundation stone of Euro-control Upper Air Space Centre18300

Minister

Date

Place of visit

Purpose

Total Cost or estimated cost (including officials)

£s.d.
7th to 9th Oct.ItalyTo open the British Shopping Week in Florence19700
Minister of State (Mr. Darling)1965
20th to 22nd Mar.LyonsInternational Trade Fair106168
21st to 23rd AprilMilanMilan Trade Fair15634
1966
19th to 25th MayBudapest, PragueInternational Trade Fair Incomex '6620360
26th to 27th Aug.ParisOpen Galaries Lafayette Store Promotion8158
12th to 18th Sept.Brno, ViennaInternational Trade Fairs172157
22nd to 25th Oct.Cologne, Frankfurt, DusseldorfSports Goods Fair. Open I.C.I. building72105
Minister of State (Lord Brown)1966
26th to 29th Mar.LyonsTo visit Foire de Lyon80158
4th Oct.ParisOpen Store Promotion at Au Bon Marche41174
13th to 17th Oct.BucharestOpening of Exhibition of British Agricultural and Construction Equipment395141
21st to 24th Oct.LyonsOpening of British Week10000
Minister of State (Mr. Redhead)1965
19th to 22nd Feb.Cologne, FrankfurtTrade Fairs149166
4th to 6th Mar.LuxembourgU.K./E.C.S.C. Council of Association8060
14th AprilBrusselsAddress Luncheon of British Chamber of Commerce in Europe and call on Belgian Minister of Foreign Trade54140
30th April to 1st MayHanoverTrade Fair129113
7th to 15th JuneScandinaviaExport Promotion206132
18th to 21st JunePolandPoznan International Fair308130
10th to 13th Sept.MoscowChemistry in Industry Exhibition48550
24th to 25th Sept.CologneFood Fair68196
Parliamentary Secretary (Lord Rhodes)1965
25th to 28th JulyFrankfurtInternational Textiles Exhibition60134
14th to 23rd Oct.U.S.A.Export Promotion1,584175
23rd Oct. to 1st NovMexicoExport Promotion
1966
2nd to 7th Mar.Hong KongBritish Week1,45370
7th to 9th Mar.PhilippinesExport Promotion
9th to 12th Mar.ThailandExport Promotion
27th April to 5th MaySaudi ArabiaExport Promotion976168
19th to 26th JuneIsraelTel Aviv International Trade Fair and Export Promotion67593

Paymaster-General

asked the Prime Minister whether the responsibilities of the Paymaster-General extend to Scotland.

I would refer the hon. Member to the definition of the duties of my right hon. Friend the Paymaster-General which I gave in answer to a Question by the hon. Member for Stroud (Mr. Kershaw) on 12th November, 1964, to which I have nothing to add.—[Vol. 701, c. 1186.]

Assize Courts, Monmouthshire (Actions)

asked the Attorney-General how many civil and divorce cases were set down for trial at each assize in each of the assize courts in Monmouthshire in each of the legal years 1963–64, 1964–65 and 1965–66; and how many other cases were not reached at the assizes for which they were set down.

The following are the figures for the years 1963, 1964 and 1965, which are the latest years for which statistics are available.

CIVIL ACTIONS OTHER THAN MATRIMONIAL
Actions entered for trial during yearActions pending at the end of year
196319641965196319641965
5368471113
MATRIMONIAL CAUSES
Suits entered for trial during yearSuits pending at the end of year
196319641965196319641965
16231721321

Conveyancing And Land Reg Istration (Legal Charges)

asked the Attorney-General (1) whether he will introduce legislation to reduce the legal costs of house purchase by the abolition of the fixed scale of solicitors' fees; and whether he will make a statement on the steps Her Majesty's Government propose to take to reduce conveyancing and land registration charges;(2) whether Her Majesty's Government will introduce legislation to reduce the charges of conveyancing and land registration other than by speeding up the compulsory registration of title; and what is his policy in this regard.

The Law Society is considering the desirability of altering the present system of charging, which is regulated by orders made under the Solicitors Act. In addition, the simplification of the law relating to the transfer of land, whether registered or unregistered, is now under consideration by the Law Commission.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Warfarin-Resistant Rats

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what areas of the country are now affected by the presence of Warfarin-resistant rats; and to what extent these areas have increased in the course of the past two years.

There have been no confirmed reports of Warfarin-resistant rats from any areas of England and Wales beyond those my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary gave to the hon. Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson) on 27th May.It is not possible to say with any accuracy how far Warfarin-resistance has spread during the past two years within the affected area but until 1965 its presence had not been confirmed in two of the ten districts in which it is now known to occur.—[Vol. 729, c.

167–8.]

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many field officers and operators have, during the past few months, been working full-time on the campaign to slow down the spread of Warfarin-resistant rats.

Four rodent operators have been employed full time on this work since March under the supervision of a field officer.

Foodstuffs (Prices)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement about his efforts to keep prices stable since 20th July last.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Morpeth (Mr. Owen) on Tuesday, 22nd November.—[Vol. 736, c. 268.]

Ministry Of Defence

South African Frigates (Spare Parts And Ammunition)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether Great Britain is continuing to supply ammunition of all sorts and spare parts for the frigates sold to South Africa under the Simonstown Agreement.

Royal Air Force, Zambia (Hire Of Vehicles)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many vehicles, and of what types, were hired from the Zambian Government for use by the Royal Air Force force while stationed in Zambia; what was the hire charge per day for each type; and what was the total cost for such hirings.

Forty-four in all: 20 3-tonners and 24 light vehicles. In addition one passenger coach was hired from a contractor.It is not the usual practice to disclose individual hire charges. As for the total cost, no final figure can yet be given. Some bills are still being discussed with the Zambian Government, and some are still awaited.

National Finance

International Interest Rates

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will seek to call a World Conference on the future of interest rates.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell) on 3rd November.—[Vol. 735, c. 172.]

Estate Duty (Avoidance)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that the ease with which Estate Duty can be avoided makes it a voluntary tax; and whether he will take steps to make avoidance more difficult.

These matters, like other tax problems, are kept under constant review.

Local Government

Sewage (Bognor)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what progress has been made in arriving at a solution for sewage outfall from the Bognor area which will give satisfactory results in all kinds of weather conditions at coastal resorts to the east of Bognor, since his refusal to grant a loan for the sewage outfall scheme.

The matter is at present in the hands of the local authority. No further proposals have been put before my right hon. Friend.

Rate Rebates (Lewisham)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what benefit has accrued to individual ratepayers in the borough of Lewisham from the implementation of the Rating Act 1966; and how this compares with the benefit accruing to individual ratepayers in the borough of Lewisham under the Rating (Interim Relief) Act 1964.

For the first half of this year, rebates totalling some £39,000 have been granted to individual ratepayers in the London borough of Lewisham. Under the 1964 Act individual relief granted by the old Deptford and Lewisham Borough Councils totalled about £150, taking 1964–65 and 1965–66 together.

Members' Dining Room (Tablecloths)

asked the Lord President of the Council what is the saving from ceasing to use tablecloths in the Members' Dining Room; and what is the average saving on each meal served.

An average amount of £16 10s. per week is being saved in laundry bills by the cessation of using tablecloths in the Members' Dining Room.

Technology

Advisory Committees

asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish details in the OFFICIAL REPORT of the 70 advisory committees attached to his Department whose members include industrialists and trade union leaders, giving the names of those serving on each committee and the terms of reference and frequency of meeting of each committee.

As this information could not be made available without a disproportionate amount of work, I am writing to the hon. Member.

Telephone Service

Subscriber Trunk Dialling (Stoke-On-Trent)

asked the Postmaster-General which towns and cities with populations in excess of 250,000 are still without subscriber trunk dialling telephone systems; and when subscriber trunk dialling will be introduced in Stoke-on-Trent.

Stoke-on-Trent is the only town in this category. I expect to provide subscriber trunk dialling there next autumn.

Wireless And Television

Bbc1 (Bedford)

asked the Postmaster General whether he is aware that there is still concern in Bedford over the very poor reception of B.B.C.1; whether the site for the new low-power relay station in Bedford has now been agreed; and if he will make a further statement on the position.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply to his Question on 3rd May. I am glad to add that the B.B.C. tells me that it has now been given planning permission to build the station and that work will proceed as quickly as possible.—[Vol. 727, c. 94.]

Post Office

New Post Office, Port Glasgow

asked the Postmaster-General what steps he intends to take to speed up the completion of the new post office in Port Glasgow.

Site negotiations are almost complete, and the first steps in the planning of the building will be taken this week. I hope, therefore, that building will start at the due time, which, as my hon. Friend knows, is in 1968 or early 1969. It is not possible to forecast a completion date at this stage.

Electricity

North Western Electricity Board (Initial Charges)

asked the Minister of Power if, following the correspondence forwarded to him by the hon. Member for Heywood and Royton, he will issue a general direction to the North Western Electricity Board to remove capital contribution charges of £20 10s. per dwelling being requested by the Board from local authorities.

As I told the hon. Member for Scarborough and Whitby (Mr. Michael Shaw) on 15th November, I am still discussing with the electricity and gas industries what changes might be made in the present system of charges towards the initial cost of providing electricity and gas supplies. In the meantime, it would not be appropriate for me to comment on particular cases.—[Vol. 736, c. 47.]

Public Building And Works

Inland Revenue Offices, Worthing

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he is satisfied with the working conditions of the Inland Revenue offices in Worthing; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. The lessors have completed roof repairs started six weeks ago because of dampness in an unoccupied room, and are to carry out some consequential internal work. They will also repair a leak in a pipe above the mess room.

Scotland

High Courts (Witnesses)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will institute an inquiry into the machinery of High Courts with special reference to obviating the present waste of time by medical and other witnesses in attendance during the hearing of other cases.

I understand that every effort is made to minimise the time lost by medical and other witnesses attending sittings of the High Court. This cannot, of course, be eliminated entirely, and local difficulties should be taken up with the appropriate court authorities. I do not think that a general inquiry into the matter would be useful.

Housing

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average percentage of site-cost to total building costs of houses for the whole of Scotland; and what are the percentages in the cites of Edinburgh, Glasgow, Dundee and Aberdeen and in the rural areas such as the Highlands and Islands and North-East Scotland, and other similar areas.

The figure for Scotland as a whole is estimated to be between 3 and 5 per cent. I regret that the other information requested is not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses he expects to be completed in 1967 in Scotland in the public and private sectors, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many contracts submitted to him for approval by local authorities for housing in the first nine months of 1965 have been approved, how many refused and how many sent back to the respective local authority for amendment; and what was the total number of houses covered in each case.

During this period 372 tenders for 22,999 houses (including some which had been adjusted and resubmitted) were approved. Eleven tenders for 759 houses were refused and sent back for reconsideration. Figures relating to tenders submitted during the period could not be extracted without undue labour.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many contracts approved by the Scottish Development Department in the first nine months of 1966 were covered by houses to be constructed by industrialised building methods; how many houses were covered by these contracts; and what was the total value of the contracts together with comparative figures for the same period in 1965.

60 contracts for the erection of 6,905 houses at a total value of some £23 million. In the same period of 1965 the figures were 48 contracts, 5,318 houses and £18 million.

Rate Poundage

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what penny-rate represents the extra £3 million to be provided by the Local Government (Scotland) Bill in the year 1967–68 on the basis of the increased valuations.

£3 million represents, to the nearest penny, a reduction of 10d. in domestic rate poundage.

County Plan, Renfrewshire (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the report of the recent inquiry into the Country Plan for Renfrewshire will be made.

I understand that the draft of the factual part of the report is now with the parties, who are expected to submit any comments on it to the Reporter by early December. If these comments raise no difficulties, I should have the full report soon afterwards.

Salmon (Drift Net Fishing Licences)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in view of the issuing of a limited number of licences permitting drift netting for salmon to fishermen operating from the Northumberland coast, he will consider issuing a similar regulated number of licences to fishermen living a few miles further north in Berwickshire and East Lothian.

No. The interim and final reports of the Hunter Committee explained the differences of law and practice affecting the Scottish and English fisheries. The Committee found that an unregulated drift net fishery could quickly deplete salmon stocks in some rivers and considered that none of the methods of regulation it examined, alone or in combination, would be a successful means of control. It recommended against allowing a limited drift net fishery under licence. The present prohibition on drift net fishing for salmon off the coast of Scotland and the Tweed maintains the position in these waters as it was before 1959 and I do not think it right to depart from it pending final decisions on the recommendations in the Committee's report.

Transport

Driving Examiners, Wales

asked the Minister of Transport how many driving examiners are employed in Wales; and how many of them are Welsh speaking.

There are 65 examinters of whom five are Welsh speaking. These arrangements have thus far met the demand for tests to be conducted in Welsh.

Driving Licences (Welsh Language)

asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of representations to that end made by local government bodies in Wales, she will cause to be issued driving licences in the Welsh language.

My right hon. Friend has not received any such representations and it is not her present intention to issue driving licences in the Welsh language.

Roads

Marble Arch—"North And M1" Route

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will arrange for a route from Marble Arch to the M1 and the A1, respectively, to be clearly marked.

The Greater London Council, as Traffic Authority, intends to indicate a route from Marble Arch to "the North and M1".

Underpasses And Flyovers (Greater London)

asked the Minister of Transport what plans are complete for further underpasses and flyovers in the Greater London Area; and on what dates construction will be completed.

The following schemes are expected to start by December, 1967:

Trunk RoadsExpected Completion
A3Flyover at Coombe LaneEnd 1968
A3Underpass at TolworthSpring 1969
A2Greenwich Boundary to Dartford Diversion (including four flyovers)Late 1969
A4Temporary flyover at Burlington LaneLate 1967
A13Beckton Road diversion —includes grade-separated junctionEarly 1970
A40Flyover at Gipsy CornerEarly 1970
Classified Roads
A2Bricklayers Arms1970
A102Blackwall Tunnel, Southern ApproachLate 1969
A217Wandsworth Bridge Southern ApproachMid 1970

Wales

Industrial Development

asked the Secretary of State for Wales in view of recent employment figures if he is satisfied that the programme to encourage Welsh industrial development will be sufficient to meet the needs of those who will become redundant between now and 1970.

I have confidence in the longer term industrial propects for Wales; my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade is providing very substantial employment opportunities. Some temporary rise in unemployment is inevitable during the present period of restraint; but I am keeping a close watch on the situation and, if additional measures are needed, the Government will not hesitate to take them.

Unemployment

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the recent rise in unemployment to what extent he has revised his estimate that the excess of labour supply over demand in South Wales would increase by some 30,000 by 1971.

I hope to receive shortly the views of the Welsh Economic Council on the effects of the credit squeeze. All developments which may affect the long term labour situation are kept under constant review by the Government and my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade is continuing to encourage the introduction of additional employment in Wales through the use of his powers under the Local Employment Acts 1960–66 reinforced by the Industrial Development Act 1966. Our object is to provide full demand to match the labour available in Wales in 1971, and later.

New Town (Consultants Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he has taken to ensure the maximum publicity for the New Town Consultants Report, particularly in mid-Wales.

In addition to making the report of the Consultants available to the public through H.M. Stationery Office I have asked the five Mid-Wales County Councils, the District Authorities and statutory bodies directly concerned, the Mid-Wales Industrial Development Association and business and agricultural interests in the area for their views on the proposals contained in the report.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether an abbreviated version of the New Town Consultants Report is being prepared.