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Volume 737: debated on Tuesday 29 November 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 29th November, 1966

National Finance

Financial Secretary (Address)

5.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what activities were carried out by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury during his official visit to the British-Swiss Society in Switzerland on 11th–12th May 1965.

The Financial Secretary addressed an invited audience on the Government's economic policies, at my request.

Meteorological Services (Expenditure)

19.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in view of the expenditure of over £1 million annually on meteorological services, as shown in the Civil Estimates Class IV, Vote 11, he will so amend the form of the Estimates as to give more information as to the allocation of this sum.

No. As the note in the Estimates indicates, nearly all the expenditure is in respect of the costs of Ministry of Defence staff providing meteorological services to Civil Aviation.

Capital Gains Tax

26.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the yield of Capital Gains Tax for the year.

The budget estimate. It is not the practice to publish revised estimates during the year.

Selective Employment Tax

27.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made as to the effect of the Selective Employment Tax in Dorset.

I regret that it is not practicable to estimate the effect of the tax in particular areas such as this.

57.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the cumulative effect upon the retail prices of food and fuel, taking into account the increases in costs upon retailers, in respect of wholesale, transport and other services arising from the Selective Employment Tax.

If all costs and all premiums were passed on, the average price increase for food and fuel combined would be in the region of one half of one per cent. The effect on actual prices at the present time is not known.

58.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the effect to the latest available date on wages costs borne by the retail distributive trades of the Selective Employment Tax; and how much of these extra costs retailers have absorbed without increased cost to the consumer.

Approximately 5 to 8 per cent. of labour costs. It is not known how much had been absorbed.

69.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by how much, to the nearest million pounds, Selective Employment Tax collected exceeds premiums and refunds paid in the South-West region and the West Midlands region, respectively.

73.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is now in a position to revise his estimate of the net yield of the Selective Employment Tax in its first full year of operation.

Scottish Banks (Interest Rate)

33.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will reduce from 1 per cent. to ½ per cent. the rate that Scottish banks pay on deposit funds, in view of the Scottish unemployment figures.

The Scottish Banks appear to have ample liquid resources to meet the needs of all priority borrowers.

Public Employees

34.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by how much the Civil Service and the number of other public employees has increased since 20th July; and what steps he is taking to reverse this trend.

68.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what number and percentage of those employed in the Civil Service, nationalised industries, Local Government and the public services, respectively, have received increments in pay due to seniority or length of service, and extra allowances due to qualifications or other reasons, respectively, during the period 20th July to the present time; and what number of percentage of these will not have received any such increment or standard increase whatsoever between the period 20th July, 1966 and July, 1967.

The information is not readily available and would be far too costly to obtain.

Public Expenditure

35.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the forecast in the National Plan of an increase in public expenditure of 4½ per cent. per annum at constant prices still stands; and if he will make a statement.

46 and 66.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he proposes to revise the figures contained in Command Paper No. 2915, Public Expenditure: Planning and Control, in the light of subsequent economic development and the proposed revision of the National Plan;(2) what steps he has taken to set in hand a revision of expenditure programmes in education, health and other public services as outlined in the National Plan, in view of the fact that the rate of growth on which the predictions were made is no longer available.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has for adjusting the rate of increase in Government expenditure to the rate of increase in the gross national product.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the recent O.E.C. economic policy commit- tee's report that it was unable to forecast any growth rate for Great Britain for the whole of next year, he will take immediate steps to reduce Government expenditure.

As part of the process of periodically surveying public sector expenditure, described in Command Paper No. 2915, I shall be examining the various programmes in the light of the planning operation referred to by my right hon. Friend the First Secretary on 10th November.

44.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing total public expenditure in the United Kingdom and Scotland, respectively, for the year 1965–66 on roads, airports, agriculture and fisheries, housing, education, including universities, health and welfare, police, prisons and law and order, children's services, promotion of local employment, environmental services, and the total for all nationalised industries, in each case indicating what percentage of the total United Kingdom figure is spent in Scotland.

The following is the table:

PUBLIC EXPENDITURE IN 1965–66 IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND SCOTLAND RESPECTIVELY FOR CERTAIN SPECIFIED SERVICES*
ServiceUnited KingdomScotlandScotland as percentage of United Kingdom
£ million£ million
Roads434·345·410·5
Airports21·24·521·2
Agriculture and fisheries275·037·213·5
Housing900·5149·216·6
Education (including Universities)1,617·5171·010·6
Health and welfare1,361·7140·110·3
Police, prisons and law and order358·332·79·1
Children's services347·337·410·8
Promotion of local employment25·8†8·432·6
Environmental services594·272·012·1
Nationalised industries1,255·5‡105·48·4
* As contained in the National Income Blue Book (Treasury Analysis of Public Expenditure).
† Great Britain figure. The percentage given also relates to Great Britain.
‡ Includes Northern Ireland public corporations.

Revenue Law (Explanatory Booklets)

36.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will ensure that explanatory booklets on changes in revenue law will be made available as soon as the Bills containing the changes receive the Royal Assent.

No, but we will continue to issue explanatory publications and notices as appropriate.

Computer Appreciation Demonstrations

37.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many Ministers and how many Permanent Under-Secretaries of State have attended any course of any type of computer appreciation; and what percentage of Ministers and Permanent Under-Secretaries of State is represented by these numbers.

Of the three Treasury Ministers, one has attended a computer appreciation demonstration. Of the 34 officers of Permanent Under-Secretary rank and equivalent, 29 (or 85 per cent.) have attended courses.

Customs Duty (International Competition Prizes)

39.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the practice of the customs authorities as to charging Customs Duty on prizes won abroad in international competitions by British competitiors.

Oecd (Economic Forecasts)

38.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer which member-Governments of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development publish official quarterly or annual economic forecasts of their economies; and what percentage of the member-Governments do so.

The Governments of the United States, Japan, Belgium and Luxembourg, France, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden and Turkey all publish some form of annual economic forecast consisting of a qualitative analysis supported by statistical tables; while the Governments of Canada and Denmark publish annual forecasts without statistical tables. This represents 13 Governments out of 21 (counting Belgium and Luxembourg separately), that is, some 60 per cent.

Hotel Industry (Investment)

40.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he has to encourage new investment in the hotel industry.

Government Printing Presses (Merseyside)

42.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the employment situation anticipated in the printing industry on Merseyside. he will take steps to establish a Government printing house in the development area.

There is no need for additional Government printing presses at present. If the need arises the suitability of locations in development areas will be considered.

Public Investment (Scotland)

43.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the amounts of the reductions in public investment in Scotland, arising from the economic measures announced in July, in central and local government programmes and in the nationalised industries' programmes.

In 1967–68, £3·5 million in the programmes of the Scottish departments and local authorities and about £6 million in nationalised industries' programmes. The Scottish economy was protected from the full effect of the July economic measures by the exemptions applied in development areas. It will be reinforced by such Government measures as the additional programme of seven advance factories in Scotland and the grants and loans payable when the recommendations of the Geddes committee on shipbuilding are implemented.

Prices And Incomes Standstill (Documents)

45.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will place in the Library copies of the documents worked out by experts in the Federal Reserve Bank in Washington and by experts in the Treasury and the Bank of England relating to the introduction of a wage and price standstill, upon which the Government's policy was subsequently based.

Bank Of England (Salaries)

47.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will introduce legislation to provide for Government approval of salaries payable to the Governor and Deputy Governor of the Bank of England.

71.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give a direction to the Bank of England, under Section 4(1) of the Bank of England Act 1946, to publish the salary and other emoluments, showing each separately, payable to the Governor, Deputy Governor and Directors of the Bank of England in 1946, 1960 and currently.

Trustee Savings Banks (House Loans)

50.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why the House Loan Scheme proposed by trustee savings banks for their employees has been turned down by his Department.

Such loans, which would require legislation, are not regarded as a suitable investment for the banks' superannuation funds.

Companies (Self-Financing Of Research And Development)

52.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to adjust taxation policy in order to encourage the self-financing of research and development by industry as recommended in the National Economic Development Council Report on the Electronics industry.

We have already done a great deal through the introduction of Corporation Tax and the investment grant scheme to facilitate the self-financing by companies of research and development, and I do not think that any further adjustments are called for.

Income Tax (Accountants' Fees)

51.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what class of taxpayers under his regulations is entitled to deduct from their gross tax liability the cost of fees paid to their accountants for completing their tax returns.

Industrial Civil Servants (Pay Structure)

54.

asked hte Chancellor of the Exchequer what progress he has made in implementing the National Board for Prices and Incomes Report No. 18 that there should be a separate pay structure for each group of industrial civil servants by April, 1967.

Confidential discussions with trade union representatives began on 25th July and are continuing.

Reflation (Taxation Reliefs)

55.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will now begin the process of planned reflation by means of taxation reliefs in selected parts of the United Kingdom.

London Clearing Banks (Liquidity)

60.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made as to the extent to which liquidity considerations will restrain the London Clearing Banks from expanding advances up to the 105 per cent. limit in line with the recent announcement by the Bank of England.

I understand that liquidity considerations do not stand in the way of an expansion in advances up to the 105 per cent. limit.

Separated Wives (Taxation)

56.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to amend the law so that separated wives whose husbands are living abroad are classified as married women for tax purposes.

No. It would not be right to deal with such cases in a manner contrary to the facts.

Excise Duty (Whisky)

62.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will institute a system of three months' credit for duty on whisky, or authorise special overdraft arrangements, to ensure that supplies for Christmas and Hogmanay are not curtailed this year owing to the increased tax, high interest rates and the credit squeeze.

Scottish Economy

65.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the effect of his policies on the Scottish economy; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave him on 31st October.—[Vol. 735, c. 32–33.]

Duty Free Goods

67.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the loss of duty involved on the goods which passengers travelling from abroad to Great Britain are allowed to bring in free.

Tin Mining (Tax Concessions)

61.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware of the substantial unexploited reserves of tin in Cornwall and of its high quality; whether he will give early consideration to including in next year's Finance Bill similar tax concessions for tin-mining to those enjoyed for mineral exploration and development in most overseas countries, in particular Canada, details of which have been sent to him.

My right hon. Friend has received representations and will consider them along with other representations relating to next year's Finance Bill.

Sterling Balances (Interest Charge)

70.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the amount of interest charges payable on the sterling balance for the current year.

Interest on the United Kingdom gross sterling liabilities is about £200 million per annum; but there are substantial offsetting interest receipts from United Kingdom sterling claims.

Friendly Societies (Political Levy)

74.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will issue instructions to the Registrar of Friendly Societies which will enable the registrar to publish total figures of those contracting out of the trade union political levy not later than 1st June in any year in respect of the previous year.

Women Civil Servants (Equal Pay)

75.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many women workers in Government employment do not receive equal pay with men in equivalent grades; and what steps are being taken to rectify the position.

All the 262,000 women non-industrial civil servants receive equal pay. Most of the 30,000 women industrials are not on men's rates and a change can be made only when economic circumstances permit.

Central Monetary Institutions (External Holdings)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the external holdings with United Kingdom banks of central monetary institutions in overseas countries at the end of September, 1966.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer which I gave him on 7th November. The end-September figure will be published in the Bank of England Quarterly Bulletin for December.—[Vol. 735, c. 232.]

Exchange Control (Overseas Of Sterling Area)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will strengthen the appropriate exchange controls in respect of property deals and foreign travel expenditure by British residents, in the overseas sterling area.

Exchange control is not applied to transactions with the overseas sterling area.

Building Societies (Mortgage Interest Rates)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, irrespective of the report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes, he will take steps to ensure that building society interest rates do not rise in the foreseeable future.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my Answer today to the hon. Member for Chelmsford (Mr. St. John-Stevas).

Bristol Companies (Dividends)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many companies with registered head offices in Bristol have increased their dividends to shareholders since 20th July, 1966.

Information is not readily available in the form requested, but the dividend standstill continues to work well over the country as a whole.

Government Departments (Contractual Obligations)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what instructions he has given to Ministers about maintaining contractual obligations entered into by Departments in the light of the prices and incomes policy.

Instructions have been issued in accordance with the provisions of Command Papers Nos. 3073 and 3150.

Finance Bill

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a White Paper dealing with proposals to take the Finance Bill off the Floor of the House of Commons; and if he will make a statement.

I think that we should await the report of the Select Committee on Procedure which is considering the House's methods of dealing with the Finance Bill.

Malt And Grain Spirits

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the quantities of malt spirit and grain spirit respectively, distilled in Scotland during the year to 30th September, 1966; and what were the quantities of both distilled in the whole of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The quantities of malt spirit and of grain spirit distilled in Scotland and in the United Kingdom as a whole in the year ended 30th September, 1966, were as follows:

Proof gallons
United KingdomScotland
Production by distilleries using malt only (malt spirit)44,918,60844,650,789
Production by distilleries using malt and other materials (grain spirit)97,775,26091,846,369

Parliamentary Draftsmen

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the shortage of Parliamentary draftsmen; what estimate he has made of the effect of such shortage on the legislative programme; and what action he proposes to take.

The shortage of draftsmen in the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel is prospective rather than immediate. The numbers now in post are sufficient for the purposes of the current legislative programme. But in order to provide for the future, and to increase the number of draftsmen available for other purposes, including the Law Commission, vacancies in the grade of Assistant Counsel are now being advertised.As regards Scotland there is a vacancy for one Assistant Parliamentary Draftsman. It is hoped that nevertheless it will be possible to fulfil the current legislative programme. Efforts are being made to fill the vacancy, and when that vacancy has been filled the need for further recruitment for other purposes will be considered.

Wastes Of The Crown Manors, Wales (Registration)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what acreages of common land in Wales including Monmouthshire, still subject to Rights of Commons, are under the control of the Crown Estates Commissioners and should be registered under Section 23 of the Commons Registration Act, 1965.

It is the Crown Estate Commissioners' intention to register under the Act the Crown's ownership of the Wastes of the Crown Manors in Wales which extend to approximately 76,000 acres. Any persons who consider themselves entitled to common rights over such land should register such rights themselves.

Overseas Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what progress has been made to date with the planned reduction of at least £100 million in Government overseas expenditure announced on 20th July; and by what date he expects that reduction to have taken effect.

I would refer the hon. Member to my Answer today to the hon. Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills).

Reserve Currency

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now abandon his proposals to create a new artificial reserve currency, in view of the Swiss bankers' opposition on the ground that while Swiss Federal debts are only 10 per cent. of their gross natural product, and America's amounts to 50 per cent., Great Britain's debt is over 100 per cent.

Industrial Production Index

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that the industrial production index for manufacture fell last month from 138 to 133, which is the sharpest fall since the in- fluenza epidemic of October, 1957; and by how much he estimates output per worker has fallen, and wage costs per unit have increased.

The Answer to the first part of the Question is "Yes". Information on the change between August and September in output per worker and in wage costs per unit is not available.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fact that the industrial production index has fallen sharply, and wages and salaries have not been reduced, what element of inflation he estimates there will be during 1967.

The movement of prices during 1967 will depend mainly on the movement of money incomes in relation to the productivity trend over a series of years. As the hon. Gentleman well knows, it is the Government's policy to restrain the rate of increase in money incomes in order to achieve greater price stability.

Local Government

Improvement Grants (Heat Insulation)

76.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will extend, by legislation or otherwise, the scope of improvement grants from local authorities to include insulation against loss of heat.

Local authorities already have power to make improvement grants for work of this kind.

Mortgages

77.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will take steps to enable local authorities to extend the granting of mortgages to houses built between 1919 and 1939.

I shall shortly be discussing with the local authorities their arrangements for lending for house purchase for next year.

Coal Tips, Yorkshire

84.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will initiate discussions with the local authorities and the National Coal Board to give immediate attention to the slag heaps in Yorkshire which are unsightly and potentially dangerous.

Since the Aberfan disaster the National Coal Board has inspected all disused and active tips in its ownership and is satisfied that there is no risk of damage to life or property. My right hon. Friend has asked local authorities in England to inspect all spoil heaps not in the ownership of the Board which for any reason appear to be unstable and a danger to the public.

Rate Rebate

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will seek to amend the Rating Act, 1966, Section 5, paragraph 7, so as to allow relatives who are in joint ownership to be treated on the same basis as a married couple for rate rebate purposes.

No, because my right hon. Friend thinks any such approach, while remedying some anomalies, would be likely to cause others.

Salford (Direct Labour Reports)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he proposes to take on the independent consultant surveyor's and the district auditor's reports alleging overspending by the Salford Council's Direct Labour Building Department; and what steps he proposes to take to safeguard the ratepayers of Salford.

The consultant was appointed by the council. His report was made to it and it is for the council to consider what action is called for As regards the district auditor's report, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 25th November to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Mrs. Knight).—[Vol. 736, c. 380.]

Housing

Overcrowding

79.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will amend the regulations governing statutory overcrowding so as to make definition dependent upon a bedroom standard and to exclude living rooms.

Present standards defining overcrowding are being re-examined as part of the wider review of legislation affecting older houses.

Private Streets (Lighting)

80.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take steps by legislation or otherwise to require the owners of the property to provide street lighting in private streets containing more than a statutory minimum number of houses.

No. Local authorities already have adequate powers to provide lighting in any street including a private street and in certain cases to impose a charge on the frontagers.

Council House Rents (Increase)

81.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will introduce emergency legislation to deprive local councils of the right to increase rents during the pay standstill; and if he will make a statement.

No. I would refer my hon. Friend to paragraph 20 of the White Paper (Cmnd. 3150) published on 22nd November.

Redeployment

82.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to ensure that the housing policies followed by local authorities do not conflict with the Government's redeployment policies.

No, but I shall be shortly issuing advice to local authorities on the subject following discussions with the local authority associations.

Leases

83.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is aware of the practice of granting residential tenancy agreements exceeding terms of 21 years with market rents reviewable every three years; and if he will take steps to prevent this circumvention of the Rent Act, 1965.

Prospective tenants should take expert, independent advice before signing leases of more than 21 years. My right hon. Friend proposes to give publicity to this and he hopes that this answer will itself be widely reported. He is considering what further steps he might take.

Agricultural Tied Cottages

85.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many applications have been made to the courts for possession of agricultural tied cottages since the commencement of the new Rent Act.

Between 1st January and 30th September, 1966, 798 actions were heard in the county courts for possession of agricultural tied cottages.

86.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many ejections have taken place from agricultural tied cottages since the commencement of the new Rent Act.

Five cases have been reported to my right hon. Friend; three of the families concerned have been re-housed by the local authority.

Completions, 1967

87.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will give an estimate of the number of permanent dwellings likely to be completed in Great Britain in 1967.

One-Bedroom Dwellings (Greater London)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the number of dwellings for single occupation built by local authorities in Greater London; and what was the annual increase in such dwellings in the last five years.

The number of dwellings built for occupation by one person is not known since local authorities allocate small dwellings to one person or a married couple as the need arises. The number of new one-bedroom dwellings built for local authorities in Greater London, whether within their boundaries or elsewhere, are given below:

One-bedroom dwellings built for local authorities in Greater London: 1961–66
19613,429
19624,287
19634,706
19644,818
19655,680
1st half 19662,682

Flats And Maisonettes

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if, in view of the improving housing position in many parts of the country, he will now encourage and assist local authorities to curtail the building of flats and maisonettes and to concentrate their efforts on the building of houses which provide a better family environment.

The mixture of dwelling types appropriate to an area must be related to the needs of that area. Subject to my right hon. Friend being satisfied on matters of cost and standards, this is something for the local authority to determine. But he is certainly not in favour of building higher than is necessary.

Rented Properties (Court Of Appeal's Decision)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if, in view of the recent decision of the Court of Appeal restricting the definition of a family, he will seek to amend the law so as to empower a local authority to require the landlord of a property to bring the facilities up to a reasonable standard.

My right hon. Friend is at present studying the Court's decision and its possible effect upon the powers and duties of local authorities, and will write to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.

Commonwealth Affairs

Kafue River Hydro-Electric Scheme

88.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what financial help he is given to Zambia for the projected Kafue River hydro-electric scheme.

No financial aid for this project has been sought from or offered by Her Majesty's Government.

Rhodesia

89.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if he will consider paying a further visit to Salisbury, Rhodesia.

I have nothing to add at present to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister in the House yesterday.—[Vol. 737, c. 31–2.]

Malta (Defence Reductions)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government is planning any changes in the timing and scope of the defence reductions in Malta, in view of concern there over the economic situation and of increasing political pressure on the Maltese Government by a foreign Power.

Her Majesty's Government have listened very carefully to representations made by the Malta Government on the reductions envisaged by the British Government as a result of the Defence Review and put to them during Lord Beswick's visit to Malta in August. Further consultations with the Malta Government in accordance with our obligations under Article 6 of the Defence Agreement are due to take place in mid-December and I must ask the hon. Member to await their outcome.

Ministry Of Power

Steel Prices

90.

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware that the differential price policy of British steel producers in home and export markets is enabling foreign constructional steel fabricators to undercut British firms in export markets; and whether he will direct the Iron and Steel Board under Section 10 of the Iron and Steel Act, 1953 to determine prices in such a way as to discontinue this practice.

I am aware of the difficulties being encountered by certain steel fabricators in competing for exports. Steel prices obtaining in export markets are commonly lower than those in the home markets of steel producers, because there is a world surplus of capacity. This is unlikely to be altered by any action I could take under the 1953 Act in relation to prices, but I am discussing the whole problem with the steel industry.

North Sea Oil Rigs (Safety Regulations)

91 and 93.

asked the Minister of Power (1) what safety regulations he prescribes for oil rigs in the North Sea in order to provide for severe weather conditions; and what standards are laid down for home- and foreign-owned rigs, respectively;(2) if he will introduce legislation covering the safety conditions required by oil rigs operating in the North Sea.

My right hon. Friend is not satisfied that further legislation is warranted at the present time but is keeping the position under review. He has instructed all licensees to carry out all operations in accordance with the provisions of the Institute of Petroleum Code of Safe Practice for Marine Areas.

95.

asked the Minister of Power what immediate steps he will take to enforce standards of safety on all oil rigs of companies holding licences to drill in the North Sea in order to avoid unnecessary risks to lifeboatmen of the kind experienced recently in connection with 'Neptune I' and to establish the highest measure of protection to the rigmen during the coming winter.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that all licensees are complying with the instructions he has issued regarding the safety of persons employed on these platforms. Any operations at sea have some inherent risk to them and a call to the air or sea rescue services to stand by in bad weather is a reasonable safety precaution.

"Sea Gem I" (Inquiry)

94.

asked the Minister of Power when the public inquiry on the drilling barge "Sea Gem I" disaster will take place.

Mr. Roland Adams, Q.C., will open the Inquiry at 10.45 a.m. on Tuesday, 7th March, 1967 at 6, Burlington Gardens, London, W.1.

Nationalised Fuel Boards

asked the Minister of Power how much capital has been invested in the coal, gas and electricity industries, respectively; how much each has received further in loans and bank guarantees; what profits or losses they have made since nationalisation; and how much has been paid in taxation from profits from each of the three industries.

Information about new investment and accumulated profits or losses for the periods from the industries' respective vesting dates to the end of the industries' 1965–66 financial years is given in the table below.

National Coal BoardElectricity Council and Boards in England and WalesGas Council and Boards
£m.£m.£m.
From Vesting Date to the end of the financial year 1965–66
New investments in fixed assets1,248*4,884†‡970
Accumulated surplus or deficit−116457†71
At end of the financial year 1965–66
Funded borrowings outstanding567§2,801623
Temporary borrowings outstanding6630
* New investment less disposals.
† Including Scottish Divisions of the British Electricity Authority up to and including 1954–55.
‡ Including initial charges of nuclear fuel.
§ After capital reconstruction under the Coal Industry Act 1965.

North Sea Oil And Gas (North-East Scotland)

96.

asked the Minister of Power if he will now state what steps he has taken to ensure that oil and gas from the North Sea are brought to North-East Scotland.

The Gas Council is examining the many technical and economic problems involved in distributing and using the gas. Regional considerations, including the needs of North-East Scotland, will be taken fully into account.

North Devon Pumped Storage Scheme

asked the Minister of Power (1) what are the problems that have held up the North Devon Pumped Storage Scheme; and if he will make a statement;(2) what advice and protection he will give the farmers and landowners who have been affected by the decision to delay the necessary Bill concerning the

Investment in new assets has been financed partly from internal resources and partly from new borrowing. The table shows, for the end of the industries' financial years 1965–66, outstanding funded borrowings relating to new capital requirements since nationalisation and outstanding temporary borrowings which were subject to Treasury guarantee in respect of borrowings from the clearing banks.

Total net payments of tax on profits since nationalisation have been nil for electricity, negligible for gas and about £10 million for coal. This position has arisen principally from the operation during this period of the general system of capital allowances.

North Devon Pumped Storage Scheme being brought before Parliament.

I am informed that the Central Electricity Generating Board has not yet been able to resolve certain engineering problems presented by this scheme.It is appreciated that the delay may cause some concern to those whose property will be affected by the scheme, but I understand that the Board is already negotiating the forward purchase of certain parcels of land, and is ready to consider applications to sell from others who feel they are being placed in difficulty.

South Western Electricity And Gas Consultative Councils

asked the Minister of Power if he will give a list of individuals and organisations, invited or otherwise, who have sent names to him for possible membership of the South Western electricity and gas consultative councils.

The organisations invited from time to time to submit nominations, as required, are listed below. I do not think it would be appropriate for me to give a list of individuals or organisations who have put names forward otherwise.

List of organisations invited to submit nominations

  • The County Councils Association.
  • The Association of Municipal Corporations.
  • The Urban District Councils Association.
  • The Rural District Councils Association.
  • The Confederation of British Industry.
  • The Association of British Chambers of Commerce.
  • The British Hotels and Restaurants Association.
  • The Parliamentary Committee of the Co-operative Union Ltd.
  • The Trades Union Congress.
  • The National Council of Women of Great Britain.
  • The National Federation of Women's Institutes.
  • The Women's Royal Voluntary Service.
  • The National Joint Committee of Working Women's Organisations.

For Electricity only

  • The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.
  • The National Chamber of Trade.
  • The Institution of Electrical Engineers.
  • The Electrical Association for Women.

Gas only

  • The Women's Gas Federation.

Oil Rig "Neptune I" (Storm Conditions)

asked the Minister of Power if he will give a report on the difficulties encountered by the oil rig "Neptune I" in the North Sea in severe weather conditions.

The oil rig "Neptune I" is designed to withstand the worst storm conditions likely to be experienced in the North Sea and I am advised that it was in no immediate danger. As a precautionary measure a request was made for the emergency services to be put on standby, as evacuation, should it have proved necessary, would have been impracticable by normal means.

Coal

National Coal Board Workshops (Contracts)

92.

asked the Minister of Power whether he will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the National Coal Board to give efficient workshops the first right to National Coal Board contracts and also to tender for engineering contracts in competition with other engineering works.

Technology

Motor Industry (Survey)

97.

asked the Minister of Technology what investigations he has made into the motor industry, with a view to improving the design, manufacture and sales of vehicles for export.

A survey of export problems and prospects for the motor industry was carried out by my Department last summer, in conjunction with the Board of Trade and the industry. The report is confidential; it has been considered by the National Advisory Council for the Motor Manufacturing Industry, of which I am Chairman, and the action points are being followed up.

Inventors (Advice And Assistance)

98.

asked the Minister of Technology what direct facilities he provides for advising inventors of new industrial processes about their commercial viability and economic worth.

The National Research Development Corporation is prepared to give advice and assistance to inventors. The Regional Offices of my Department can often assist by putting inventors in touch with local industry and the Department itself will also advise on sources of assistance. We are not, however, equipped to give an opinion on the commercial value of an invention.

Fairfield Shipbuilding Company (Government Investment)

asked the Minister of Technology how much capital he has invested in the Fairfield Shipbuilding Company, Glasgow; what extra loans and bank guarantees have been given; and what plans he has for further investment or loan of public money.

Government investment consists of £530,000 in ordinary shares and £940,000 in 7 per cent. unsecured loan stock 1975. No other loans or guarantees have been given and I have no present plans for further investment of public money in this company.

Lord Chalfont (Disarmament Discussions)

99.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how long the Minister for Disarmament was in attendance at the United Nations between 20th and 31st October; and what activities he carried out during that Period.

During the whole of the period in question, my noble Friend Lord Chalfont was leading the United Kingdom delegation in the disarmament discussions at the United Nations General Assembly.

Miami (Government Property)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the cost of the damage to Her Majesty's Government's property in Miami during recent incidents there; and what under-taking he has sought from the United States Government to prevent the recurrence of similar incidents.

No damage to Her Majesty's Government's property resulted from recent incidents in Miami. Local authorities in the city co-operated fully with Her Majesty's Consul in keeping. demonstrators away from the consular premises. It has not therefore been necessary to seek special undertakings from the United States Government.

Natural Disasters (United Nations Assistance)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will propose that the United Nations establishes an Emergency Relief Organisation to carry aid rapidly to any major disaster in the world.

New procedures for co-ordinating United Nations assistance in cases of natural disaster were authorised by the General Assembly in December, 1965, and the Secretary-General can now call upon a fund of $100,000 for emergency aid in any one year. He has prepared a handbook entitled "International Action in cases of Natural Disaster: a Manual on the Resources and Procedures of the United Nations Family", a copy of which I will send to the honourable Member. I should prefer to await the Secretary-General's next report on the working of these new procedures, which is due to be taken by the 23rd Session of the General Assembly, before considering any fresh proposals. I understand that he is satisfied with the progress so far made.

Bbc (Sound Broadcasts In Arabic)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the average amount of time given daily by the British Broadcasting Corporation's overseas radio service in 1965–66 to sound broadcasts in Arabic.

Economic Affairs

Period Of Severe Restraint (Government Consultations)

100.

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what steps are envisaged to maintain constant liaison between trades unions, employers' associations and Her Majesty's Government during the period of severe restraint.

The White Paper on the Period of Severe Restraint, Cmnd. 3150 makes it clear that it is the aim of the Government to consult with the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress to secure the effective and consistent application of the severe restraint criteria. The Government will also consult with individual employers' associations, trade associations and trade unions in appropriate cases.

South-East Development Plan

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs when he will publish a revised version of the South-East Development Plan.

We are looking to the South-East Economic Planning Council for its views on the development of the South-East region. I understand that the Chairman hopes to publish an interim report next year.

Prices

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, in view of the fact that the industrial production index for last month has fallen lower than at any time since 1957, and wages and salaries have not been reduced, by what means he intends to keep down prices.

The industrial production index for September was not at its lowest level since 1957, as the hon. Member suggests. It was 30 per cent. above the average level for 1957, and at the same level as in three months of last year. It is true, however, that there was an unusually sharp fall in the index for September compared with the August figure.There has been almost no increase in wages and salaries since the beginning of the standstill period. The criteria for price behaviour during the period of severe restraint have been set out in Cmnd. 3150.

Ministry Of Defence

Thailand (Bases)

101.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the cost to public funds of British bases in Thailand in 1966.

Hms "Sluys"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why Her Majesty's destroyer "Sluys" has been sold to the Iranian Government; what was the price paid for her; and whether he will endeavour to make available obsolescent warships to foreign or Commonwealth powers in the future if such action will assist the placing of orders with United Kingdom shipbuilders.

We are prepared to offer surplus warships to friendly and allied Governments whenever we are satisfied that a genuine requirement exists and that supply would be consistent with the relevant political considerations. It is contrary to normal practice to disclose details of the kind requested about the "Sluys".

Reserve Ships

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what further reductions he envisages in the near future in the number of Her Majesty's Ships in reserve; whether the reorganisation of the reserve ships groupings now taking place will result in any economies; and if he is satisfied that there are sufficient ships in reserve to provide a realistic support for the active fleet.

I do not envisage any reduction in the near future. The present reorganisation is meant to concentrate our reserve ships, not to run them down or save staff, and we are keeping enough to maintain the active fleet at its proper strength.

Royal Naval Dockyards (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what were the totals of industrial and non-industrial staff, respectively, in Her Majesty's Dockyards at Portsmouth, Devonport, Chatham and Rosyth on 1st April this year.

The totals at 1st April, 1966, were:

IndustrialNon-Industrial
Portsmouth12,0382,469
Devonport13,5142,136
Chatham7,5201,718
Rosyth5,5151,443

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what changes are envisaged in the numerical strengths of industrial and non-industrial staff, respectively, at the four home Royal Dockyards in the next two years; and if he is satisfied that sufficient skilled workers are available to meet the requirements of the fleet.

We aim to go on improving our planning and management teams, and this means some increase in non-industrial numbers. We also need to make good shortages of skilled men in some trades.

Hms "Lion" And "Blake" (Conversion Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated cost of the conversions of Her Majesty's Ships "Lion" and "Blake"; and when work on them will be completed.

The conversion and concurrent refit of H.M.S. "Blake" is expected to cost about £5 million, and to be completed towards the end of 1968. Work on the second Tiger Class Cruiser is likely to be completed in 1969, and to cost about the same.

Hm Aircraft Carrier "Leviathan"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether Her Majesty's aircraft carrier "Leviathan" is now for disposal by scrapping; and what was the price paid by the Netherlands Government for this ship's boilers.

Not at present, because we are considering non-naval uses for "Leviathan". The price we are getting for the boilers covers the full professional valuation, the work involved in removing them, and the supply of drawings.

Vtol Aircraft Design (Expansion)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what expansion is planned of existing vertical take-off and landing aircraft designs, in view of the British lead in this field.

Apart from P1127 (R.A.F.), there are no current plans to give a VTOL capability to fixed wing aircraft, but the value of such techniques will continue to be considered as staff requirements are formulated.

Fleet Working Party

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the Future Fleet Working Party has now completed its report; and if its major recommendations will be included in next year's Defence White Paper.

I would refer the hon. and gallant Gentleman to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson) on 9th November.

I am not prepared to anticipate the contents of next year's Defence White Paper.—[Vol. 735, c. 292–3.]

Naval Forces, Caribbean

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he plans to maintain British forces in the Caribbean area at their present strength in the foreseeable future; and if he will order increases in naval forces there, in view of recent incidents.

I do not think that there is any justification at present for increasing our naval forces in the Caribbean but future deployments will depend upon the circumstances.

Bahamas Patrol

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the cost of maintaining the Bahamas patrol; and how much of this is borne directly or indirectly by the Government of the Bahamas.

I assume that the hon. and gallant Member is referring to the naval forces employed on the Bahamas patrol. This task is carried out by H.M. ships which also have other duties. It is not practicable to isolate the costs attributable to their periods of service on the Bahamas patrol. No contribution is made by the Government of the Bahamas towards the cost of this force.

British Forces, Indian Ocean (Air Support)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any changes have been made in forward planning of air support for Her Majesty's Forces in the Indian Ocean area in the 1970s in the light of changes over the past year in the operational radius figure of the American F111 aircraft.

No, although I do not accept the premise in the latter part of the Question.

Indian Ocean (Bases)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when it is planned to start work on the construction of new island bases in the Indian Ocean; how many of such bases are at present envisaged; and how much each will cost to construct and equip.

I have nothing to add to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell) on 16th November.—[Vol. 736. c. 412.]

Surface Warships (Nuclear Propulsion)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress is being made in the design of a marine nuclear reactor for surface ships of less than 8,000 tons displacement; and if he will make a statement.

Investigations into the application of nuclear propulsion to surface warships are continuing. These will take account of power requirements in relation to displacement.

British Nuclear Submarines (American Steel)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) whether it is planned to order additional quantities of American HY-80 steel for the fifth and sixth nuclear fleet submarines to be built for the Royal Navy; and what will be the cost of American steel bought for the entire British nuclear submarine programme;(2) whether, in view of the concern of Her Majesty's Government to conserve foreign exchange, he will place revised specifications for special steels with British manufacturers in order to save dollar expenditure on American HY-80 steel for British nuclear submarines.

Quantities of American HY-80 steel have been ordered for these two boats. We have to date committed about £.1·15 million on American steel for British nuclear submarines. Whether we shall order any more depends on how soon acceptable British steel can be produced.

British Forces, Far East (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what will be the estimated total cost of maintaining Royal Navy and Royal Air Force units, respectively, in the Far East during the current financial year; and how much of these costs will be in foreign exchange.

Information about attributable costs and overseas costs of our forces in the Far East is shown in the Statement on the Defence Estimates 1966, Part II (Cmnd. 2902). It would not be in the public interest to publish more detailed information.

Anglo-Dutch 3-D Surveillance Radar

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received from the Netherlands Government expressing their concern over either the cost or the design of the comprehensive display system radar to be employed in connection with the Sea Dart missile; and what assurances he has given to them to ensure their continued collaboration in this system's development.

The design and manufacture of the Anglo-Dutch 3-D surveillance radar are being undertaken in the Netherlands. There is close consultation between our two Governments on both the technical and the financial aspects of this project.

F111 Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is aware that the Australian Government is contemplating a reduction in its order for American F111 aircraft; and whether he will consider making a revision in future British requirements for this aircraft.

Australian orders for American aircraft are a matter for the Australian Government. As regards the second part of the question, there has been no change in our plans to purchase 50 F 111K aircraft for the Royal Air Force.

Officer Cadets (Academic Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what changes he is proposing to make in the arrangements for the academic training of officer cadets; and if he will make a statement.

As I told the hon. Member for Stroud (Mr. Kershaw) on 13th July, this is one of the matters reviewed by the Howard/English Committee. The Committee has now reported and my right hon. Friend is considering its recommendations.—[Vol. 731, c. 214.]

Land, Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what acreage of land in Wales, including Monmouthshire, is occupied by his Department; and what acreage is still subject to Rights of Common and will be registered by his Department under the Commons Registration Act, 1965.

About 55,000 acres are owned or occupied by the Ministry of Defence. My right hon. Friend is considering the question of registration, but, until the procedures under the Commons Registration Act, 1965, have been completed is unable to say what acreage will be registered.

Military Commitments

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will enumerate all the long-term, open-ended military commitments negotiated between

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES AT BATLEY AND MORLEY AND IN GREAT BRITAN, AND PERCENTAGE RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT
14th November, 19668th November, 1965
Numbers unemployedPercentage rateNumbers unemployedPercentage rate
Batley2601·91180·9
Morley1811·21350·9
Great Britain541,585*2·3*321,2481·4
* Provisional.

asked the Minister of Labour (1) if he will state the number of unemployed at the employment exchange in Bury St. Edmunds;(2) if he will state the number of unemployed at the employment exchange in Haverhill;

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT 14TH NOVEMBER, 1966
MenBoysWomenGirlsTotalTemporarily stopped included in total
Bury St. Edmunds214163712279
Haverhill182536723073
Newmarket82141972
Sudbury12532215044

1951 and 1964, indicating the annual cost of each; and what steps Her Majesty's Government intends to take to reduce the cost to public funds of these commitments.

For information about our commitments and our proposals for reducing defence expenditure, I would refer my hon. Friend to the Statement on the Defence Estimates, 1966. As I have explained on a number of occasions, costs cannot be usefully estimated in terms of individual commitments.

Ministry Of Labour

Unemployment

asked the Minister of Labour what were the numbers of unemployed persons in Batley and Morley, respectively, at the latest convenient date; what percentage of the local working populations these figures represent; how these compare with the national figures; and how these figures compare with those of 12 months previously.

Following is the information:(3) if he will state the number of unemployed at the employment exchange in Newmarket;(4) if he will state the number of unemployed at the employment exchange in Sudbury.

Service Industry Employees, Cornwall

102.

asked the Minister of Labour what is his estimate of the number of men and women who have left the service industries and moved into manufacturing industry as a result of the Selective Employment Tax in the area covered by the South West Regional Economic Council, in Cornwall, and in the area covered by the employment exchanges in Penzance, St. Ives, St. Mary's and Helston.

Permanently Disabled Persons

asked the Minister of Social Security how many permanently disabled persons there are in England and Wales, and how many of these are working in part-time employment and sheltered employment, respectively.

I have been asked to reply.I have no information about the number of permanently disabled persons in England and Wales but 590,318 persons substantially handicapped in obtaining or retaining employment were included in the Disabled Persons Register on 18th April, 1966 (the latest date on which information is available). I have no precise information regarding the number of these who are employed on a part-time basis. According to the latest information available 11,421 disabled persons are engaged in employment under sheltered conditions.

Education And Science

William Caxton Manuscript

103.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take urgent action to purchase on behalf of the nation, before it is sold abroad, the first half of William Caxton's manuscript translation of Ovid's Metamorphoses, which may be in Caxton's own script.

The Government regret that they are unable to make a grant for this purpose. The Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art originally recommended on 6th September that an export licence for the manuscript should not be issued for three months. They have now recommended an extension of a further month until 6th January, in order to give Magdalene College, Cambridge, the chance of raising the sum required. I have accepted this recommendation.

Swann Committee (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on relations between higher education and industry in the United Kingdom in the light of his recent visit to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

I was interested to find in the course of my stimulating visit to the Soviet Union how close were the relations between many institutions of higher education and industry As to the position in the United Kingdom. I would refer my hon. Friend, amongst other public statements, to the Answer which I gave him on 10th November.—[Vol. 733, c. 1507–8.]

Schools Of Wales (Welsh Language)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on his policy in regard to the establishment in Wales of Welsh or bilingual schools.

My right hon. Friend is continuing the policy which for more than 50 years has been pursued by what was the Ministry of Education and is now the Department of Education and Science, of fostering the use of the Welsh language in the schools of Wales and supporting local education authorities who wish to establish "Welsh" or bilingual schools or departments. The initiative for the establishment of new schools, of this as of other kinds, rests with individual local education authorities. Local education authorities must conform with the statutory procedure laid down under Section 13 of the Education Act 1944, and must satisfy my right hon. Friend that the school is needed to discharge their duties under the Act, that the accommodation proposed is suitable, that the school is likely to be of an educationally workable size and not too small to offer a reasonable variety of courses, and that it will not affect adversely the legitimate interests of other pupils in the area. Where these conditions are satisfied my right hon. Friend agrees to the establishment of new "Welsh" or bilingual schools. There are circumstances in which individual local education authorities in Wales find that the establishment of a Welsh department in an existing school is a better arrangement from the educational point of view; in such cases the decision rests with the authority.

Transport

Leeds And Liverpool Canal

104.

asked the Minister of Transport if the current Merseyside Land Use/Transport Survey will include an examination of the possibility of the Leeds and Liverpool Canal being terminated as a waterway short of the built-up area of Merseyside and of the feasibility of the canal's route through this area of Merseyside being used as a road link, or transport parking harbour for heavy lorries, in the vicinity of the dock road at Bootle and Liverpool.

Buses (Ticketless Journeys)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will institute an inquiry into the feasibility and merits of ticketless omnibus journeys.

My right hon. Friend has set up, with the co-operation of operators, unions, and bus manufacturers, a working group to examine the technical and operational problems of operating buses without conductors. Dispensing with tickets is one of the matters to be considered.

Departmental Committees

asked the Minister of Transport if she will list for her Department the committees, working parties and the like which are currently sitting, but excluding those which are composed only of civil servants, showing the number of civil servants who have been allocated to work full and half-time respectively, on each.

pursuant to her Answer [OFFICIAL REPORT, 8th November, 1966; Vol. 735, 275–6], supplied the following information:

Civil Servants Allocated
Title of Committee, Etc.Full-TimeHalf-Time
Joint Steering Group to identify the social service elements in British Rail operations and examine the railways management and financial structures32
National Road Safety Advisory Council and Committees A B and C2
Cars for Cities Study1
Advisory Committee on the Landscape Treatment of Trunk Roads1
Transport Co-ordinating Councils1
Transport Users Consultative Committees
Working Party on Brakes
Working Party on Vehicle Lighting Regulations
Working Party on the revision of Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations
Winter Maintenance Equipment Development Committee
Working Party on the use of Project Evaluation of Research Techniques for Road Programme Management
Working Party on Productivity in Highway Maintenance and Minor Improvement
Working Party on problems of Farm Stock and Implements on Main Roads
Working Party on the re-design of Traffic Light Signal Lanterns
Management Committee on the West London Experiment on Area Traffic Control and sub-committees
Working Party on Agency Agreement Fees with the County Councils Association
Working Party on the Transportation of Dangerous Goods
London Staggering of Hours Committee
Advisory Committee on Motor Rallies
Committee on Motor Insurance as a Road Safety Factor
Traffic Signs Technical Working Party
Panel on Road Markings
Research Committee on Design and Construction
Research Programme Review Committee
Working Party on Speed Limits
Working Party on Pedestrian Safety
Revision of Specification Committee
Working Party on Edge Markings
Research Committee on Traffic Engineering
Working Party on Road Construction Units

Civil Servants Allocated

Title of Committee, Etc.

Full-Time

Half-Time

Research Committee on Bridges
Bridge Design Committee
Joint Study Group on Project Evaluation of Research Techniques
Steering Committee on One-Man Operation of Public Service Vehicles
Joint Anglo-French Working Group on Channel Tunnel7
Channel Tunnel Technical Committees
Road Construction Liaison Committee
Stopping Places Advisory Committee1
Working Party on Rural Buses
Advisory Council on Road Research
Research Committee on Bituminous Materials
Research Committee on Concrete
Research Committee on Road Traffic
Research Committee on Road Safety
Human Factors Joint Working Group
Working Party on Machinery for Skidding Resistance
Technical Liaison Committee on Materials and Construction
Technical Liaison Committee on Road Traffic and Road Safety
Technical Liaison Committee on Bridges
Joint Review of London Transport
Joint Working Party with the Ministry of Housing and Local Government on Hydraulic Design of Sewage Systems

£ million

New roads and major improvements of existing roads

Maintenance and minor improvements

Exchequer

Local Authorities

Total

Exchequer

Local Authorities

Total

England143291725358111
Wales112136915
Total154311855967126

Wales

Bangor-On-Dee Bridge

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what action he is taking to ensure safety of vehicles using the bridge at Bangor-on-Dee.

Civil Servants Allocated

Title of Committee, Etc.

Full-Time

Half-Time

Military Engineering Experimental Establishment and Road Research Laboratory Technical Liaison Committee
Restraint of Urban Traffic Study Group

In addition to the staff allocated to work full-time or half-time, staff of my Department are directly concerned on a part-time basis with the other bodies listed above, but in no instance does this work represent anything approaching half-time employment.

Staff of my Department are also working in close co-operation with local authorities and other interests concerned on a number of urban transport studies and Committees, etc. in the Regions.

Roads

Expenditure (England And Wales)

45.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the total expenditure by central Government and local authorities on roads in England and in Wales, respectively.

The following table shows our estimates and those of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales of expenditure in the financial year 1966/67 on new roads, improvements of existing roads and maintenance:the bridge, which carries a classified road, is maintained by the Flintshire County Council who tell me they are keeping it under observation. I understand that the two councils are discussing the need to impose a weight limitation on the bridge and I hope they will reach early agreement. A proposal to by-pass the bridge is also under examination by the two authorities.

Industrial Development

105.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the fact that 3·9 per cent. of the employees in Wales were registered as unemployed on 14th November and that there are only 7,674 vacancies while 39,362 are without work, what special measures Her Majesty's Government propose to take immediately to create work in Wales.

I would refer the hon. Member to what I said in reply to his Questions yesterday.—[Vol. 737, c. 42–3]

Road Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many road schemes costing over £100,000 there were in progress in 1965 in the six western counties of Wales, Carmarthenshire, Pembrokeshire, Cardiganshire, Merioneth, Caernarvonshire and Anglesey; how many are currently in progress; how many are programmed up to 1970; and what is the total mileage involved.

Three schemes, one in Carmarthenshire, one in Pembrokeshire and one in Merioneth, were completed in 1965. Their total length was 2·5 miles. One scheme (the Llandudno Junction Flyover, 0·3 miles long) is currently in progress. Three schemes, two in Caernarvonshire and one in Carmarthenshire, are programmed up to 1970. Their total length is 3·5 miles.

Northern Ireland Supreme Court (Expenditure)

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister what are the reasons for the expenditure of £148,000 from the United Kingdom Exchequer for the supreme court of judicature in Northern Ireland; and what steps he will take to reduce this expenditure.

The Supreme Court is a reserved service under the Government of Ireland Act, 1920. The expenditure referred to, which is recoverable from the Northern Ireland share of reserved taxes, is on salaries of the staff. Manpower is already regularly reviewed.

Mr Kosygin (Visit)

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in arranging the agenda for Mr. Kosygin's visit, he will provide facilities to enable him to meet representatives of religious bodies.

The programme for the visit will be arranged in close consultation with Mr. Kosygin. I cannot yet say what it will include.

Civil List (Salaries)

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will introduce legislation to ensure that, during the wages standstill periods, salaries on the Civil List shall also be subject to the same control as those of ordinary citizens.

No. I am satisfied that no special legislation is needed to ensure that salaries payable from the Civil List are kept in line with the Government's incomes policy. I might also add. as I suspect that this is the real point of my hon. Friend's Question, that the allowance received by the Prince of Wales as Duke of Cornwall is not a salary but a part, and part only, of the net revenues from the Duchy of Cornwall which are his as of right and which he will receive in full on attaining the age of twenty-one. Until he reaches that age the balance of net revenue is applied to reduce issues from the Exchequer under the terms of the Civil List Act, 1952. The value to the Exchequer of these payments in the past 15 years is approximately £1·7 million.

Barbados (Independence Gifts)

asked the Prime Minister whether it is proposed that gifts should be presented to the Government and Legislature of Barbados to mark the attainment of independence by Barbados on 30th November.

The whole House will, I feel sure, wish to send hearty congratulations to Barbados on her forthcoming independence, with best wishes for the happiness and prosperity of her people. Her Majesty's Government will propose that this House should offer a gift to the Barbados House of Assembly. Her Majesty's Government for their part have decided to offer a suitable gift to the Government of Barbados to mark this happy occasion.

Scottish Tuc (Discussions)

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister what representations he has received from the Scottish Trades Union Congress in relation to the economic situation in the Bathgate area; and what reply he gave.

A number of my colleagues and I had a full and frank discussion with representatives of the Scottish T.U.C. last night. I will send my hon. Friend, and place in the Library, a copy of the notice issued to the Press after the meeting.

Ministry Of Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Fish Disease (Cumberland Rivers)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that a large number of dead fish was taken from the Border Esk in Cumberland recently; if he is satisfied that further trouble of this kind will not recur, and that all the angling spots in Cumberland are now clear; and if he will make a statement.

The outbreak of disease in the Border Esk and in other Cumberland rivers is continuing. Control measures to limit the spread of the disease were immediately taken and this action is continuing, but it is not possible to make any prediction as to the future course of the disease.

Antu Pesticide

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what stocks of the pesticide product Antu are at present held in England and Wales; how many operatives have been using it; and what quantity has normally been used during a year.

Exact information is not available. Antu is not manufactured in England and Wales. It is very little used here, and then only by operators in limited fields of employment. Stocks are believed to be very small.

Food Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the percentage increase or decrease in food prices between June and September in each of the years 1960 to 1964.

Food prices, as measured by the food group of the Index of Retail Prices, fell between June and September in each year, as follows:

Pecentage decrease in the Food Index
per cent.
19602·6
19612·6
19625·0
19632·6
19640·9

Colonial Territories

Posts (Assessment Of Candidates)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether Her Majesty's Government are consulted on the integrity and suitability of candidates from the United Kingdom seeking positions in colonial government-controlled organisations prior to acceptance of their application by colonial government authorities.

Where the Crown Agents for Oversea Governments and Administrations, or exceptionally the Ministry of Overseas Development, are asked to produce candidates for such posts, their integrity and suitability would be carefully assessed before the names were submitted to the organisations concerned.

Ministry Of Health

Second Quality Eggs (Health Hazard)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what advice he has received from the Egg Marketing Board about the danger to health represented by the retail sale of second quality eggs.

I have been asked to reply.I am not aware of any recent advice by the Board on this subject although they have in the past expressed the view that the sale of cracked eggs might represent a risk to health. I am, however, advised that there has been no evidence of such a hazard.

Hospitals

Mental Hospitals (Patients And Staff)

asked the Minister of Health what the number of patients in, and the approximate area of, mental hospitals have been in each of the last 10 years; and what have been the numbers of staff in those hospitals during the same period.

Information in the form requested is not readily available. At the end of 1964 there were 177,633 patients in psychiatric hospitals of which the buildings and grounds cover about 22,000 acres.

Home Department

State Management Scheme (Prices)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the profits made by the State Management Scheme for the year ended 31st March, 1966, and the need for a high level of price holding, he will set an example to the country as a whole by reducing the prices of State products and of the hotels.

These profits were the lowest for four years. In the face of steadily rising costs, which have not been fully absorbed, prices have been held longer than in the trade generally, but some regard must be had to commercial considerations if State Management is to continue to be viable and to undertake improvements, which are financed entirely out of revenue.

Essex Police Force (Rent Allowance)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now give his consent to the rent allowance increase for Essex policemen authorised by the local police authority.

The Police Council rent allowance agreement of 1957 provides that, in fixing the maximum limit of rent allowances in a force, regard should be had to the prevailing level of rents and rates of all married male members of the force who rent unfurnished accommodation. It is the established practice, endorsed by the Police Council, that where the number of married members renting unfurnished accommodation is only a small proportion of all the members of the force receiving rent allowances, the matter should be referred to the rent conciliation panel of the Police Council for a recommendation.Only 11 of the 138 marired male members of the Essex force who receive rent allowance occupy unfurnished rented accommodation. Accordingly, when an application was received by my Department for the approval of a new maximum limit, the police authority were advised that the rent conciliation panel should he asked to make a recommendation.

Civil Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will publish his plans for the reorganisation of Civil Defence Corps.

I am not yet in a position to add to the reply I gave on 25th October to a Question by the hon. Member for Maldon (Mr. Brian Harrison).—[Vol. 734, c. 155.]

Land And Natural Resources

Land Commission Bill (Civil Servants)

asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources how many of the 2,000 civil servants required to operate the Land Commission Bill are expected to need training for their task; who will provide the necessary tuition; where it will be undertaken; and how long such training will take.

About 500 will need instruction by staff which have been seconded to my Department and whose training is now being completed. This will be undertaken in the regional offices to be used by the Commission in a period of about two months before the Land Commission is set up.

Common Land, Wales

asked the Minister of Land and Natural Resources if he will give the acreage of common land in Wales including Monmouthshire in the control and/or ownership of Government departments; and if he will give the disposition by counties.

Information about the distribution of common land in Wales, including that held by Government departments, will not be complete until registration under the Commons Registration Act, 1965, has become final. Claims that land is common can be made by any person whether or not he has a legal interest in the land, and registration authorities may register land even if no such claims are made.

Telephone Service

Waiting List (Bedford)

asked the Postmaster-General how many people in Bedford are waiting to have telephones installed; what is the average delay at present; what was the average delay in 1965; and whether he will make a statement on this local problem.

Leaving aside orders under inquiry or being met, there were 589 applicants waiting at 31st October, 1966. All will receive service when a new exchange is opened in the early autumn of 1967. Those now on the waiting list have been waiting on average about six months: the comparable figure for 1965 was almost five months.There is a shortage of automatic exchange equipment and insufficient accommodation for extending the over-loaded switchboard. These difficulties will be removed by the opening of the new exchange with STD.

Waiting List (Oxford)

asked the Postmaster-General what is the waiting list for telephones in the Oxford area; and if he will give the figures for 1963, 1964, and 1965.

The figures (at 30th September) are:

19632,532
19642,663
1965714
19661,466

Post Office

St Helen's Head Post Office (Protest)

asked the Postmaster-General what representations he has received from the Subpostmasters Federation against the downgrading of St. Helens Head Post Office; what replies he gave; and if he will reconsider the Head Postmaster's position at the St. Helens Post Office in view of the co-operation which industry has always been able to rely upon whilst the Post Office administration for St. Helens has been sited in the town's centre.

None from the headquarters of the National Federation of Subpostmasters, although local Sub-postmasters have associated themselves with a protest by the local staff. A Crown Post Office will remain in the town centre after the reorganisation, and I am satisfied that there will continue to be the fullest co-operation with local industry.

Wireless And Television

Receiving Licences (Prosecutions)

asked the Postmaster-General how many successful prosecutions took place in Bedford against persons not holding a television or wireless licence during the last 12-month period for which records are available; and how this compares with the average for the country as a whole.

During the year ended 31st March, 1966, 43 successful prosecutions were undertaken in the Bedford Head Post Office area. As Head Post Office areas vary greatly in size and character the average per area would not be meaningful as a basis for comparison.

Public Building And Works

Building Sites (Installation Of Services)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what action he will take to meet the problem of delays and interruptions caused to building work by the separate installation of gas, water, electricity and other services.

I have appointed a Committee under the Chairmanship of Sir Donald Gibson, Director General of Research and Development in my Department, to examine ways of co-ordinating the installation of electricity, gas, telephone and water services on new building sites, and to make recommendations. The gentlemen listed below have agreed to serve:

  • Mr. S. G. Barrett, M.Sc., M.I.C.E., M.I.W.E. (Managing Director, Newcastle and Gateshead Water Company).
  • Mr. D. Basnett (National Industrial Officers, National Union of General and Municipal Workers).
  • Mr. G. A. Britton, A.M.I.Struct.E. (Director, John Laing Construction Ltd.).
  • Mr. N. C. C. De Jong, B.Sc. (Eng.), A.M.I.E.E., A.M.I.C.E. (Deputy Engineer in Chief, General Post Office).
  • Mr. J. G. Osborne, F.R.I.C.S. (Partner, Messrs. Reynolds and Young, Chartered Quantity Surveyors).
  • Mr. E. Peel, M.I.E.E. (Chief Engineer, South Eastern Electricity Board).
  • Mr. P. A. Shepherd, A.M.I.C.E., M.I.Gas.E. (Chief Distribution Engineer, North Thames Gas Board).
  • Mr. G. E. Rowland, A.M.I.C.E. (Assistant Chief Engineer, Ministry of Transport).
  • Mr. W. o. Ulrich (Assistant Secretary, Ministry of Housing and Local Government).
  • Mr. F. Walley, M.Sc., M.I.C.E., M.I.Struct.E. (Deputy Director of Development, Ministry of Public Building and Works).
  • Mr. H. J. Whitfield Lewis, F.R.I.B.A., M.T.P.I. (Chief Architect, Ministry of Housing and Local Government).

The Secretaries will be:—

  • Mr. R. M. Hutson, M.B.E., B.A., B.A.I., A.M.I.C.E., A.N.I.Mun.E. (Directorate of Development, Ministry of Public Building and Works).
  • Mr. D. P. Walley (Directorate of Development, Ministry of Public Building and Works).

I am in touch with those concerned about representation of local authority and engineering interests.

Board Of Trade

Anglo-South African Trade

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will set out in column form the imports from and exports to South Africa for each of the last 10 years.

The following is the information:

YearImportsExportsRe-exports
£ million£ million£ million
19561211621
19571261802
19581231932
19591291562
19601391612
19611561552
19621511552
19631662052
19641832363
19651812614

Tin Ore (Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what were the volume and cost in foreign exchange of imports of tin ore into this country for each of the past five years and the volume and value of United Kingdom production of tin ore in 1965.

As the Answer is in the form of a tabular statement I will, with permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT. I cannot say how much these imports cost in foreign exchange.

UNITED KINGDOM IMPORTS OF TIN ORE AND CONCENTRATES
YearTons£'000
196151,36417,794
196250,05813,086
196344,88312,899
196443,64818,500
196544,65318,198
UNITED KINGDOM PRODUCTION OF TIN ORE, DRESSED (BLACK TIN)
YearTons£'000
19652,028*Not available
* Provisional.

Commercial Vehicles (Hire- Purchase Restrictions)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will consider measures for seasonal variations in the hire-purchase rates on commercial vehicles.

Since most commercial vehicles are not subject to the hire-purchase restrictions, the question does not arise

Advance Factories

asked the President of the Board of Trade what criteria are now used in the selection of areas and sites for Government advance factories.

The criteria continue to be the relative need of places in development area for additional employment opportunities and availability of suitable sites in such places.

Social Security

Invalid Wives (Home Help)

asked the Minister of Social Security how many families there are in which the wife is a chronic invalid and requires help in the home.

I regret this information is not available in the form requested. Information which the Ministry has, however, shows that, out of some 1½ million married women who are fully insured under the National Insurance scheme some 33,000 have been receiving sickness benefit for more than 12 months.

Scotland

Antu Pesticide

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what stocks of the pesticide product Antu are held in Scotland at the present time; how many operatives have been using it; and what quantity has normally been used during a year.

I regret that this information is not available. Antu is not manufactured in this country and its use is confined to operators in limited fields of pest control. Stocks are believed to be very small.

Road Construction Units

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has to establish road construction units in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

The need is being examined in consultation with the Association of County Councils in Scotland.