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Volume 737: debated on Tuesday 6 December 1966

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 6th December, 1966

Local Government

Development Programmes (Inquiries)

8.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is aware that some county councils are accepting search-fees from prospective purchasers of property in their administrative counties seeking information in connection with road and other development programmes which could affect the property, to which they intentionally return misleading information; and if he will introduce legislation to ensure that only accurate information is given.

No. Authorities answer inquiries on their future programmes voluntarily under arrangements made with the legal profession, and they have to take that in giving all information relevant for prospective purchasers they do not unfairly prejudice the position of prospective vendors. I have no reason to believe that they are failing in this task.

Spoil Heaps

31 and 32.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the total acreage of spoil heaps in England; and what percentage of this derelict land is in Cornwall;(2) for what acreage of spoil heaps in England there are plans for reclamation; and what percentage of the area is in Cornwall.

Information from local authorities shows that there were 33,014 acres of derelict spoil heaps in England at 31st December, 1965, of which 13,682 acres or 41 per cent. were in Cornwall. Local authorities considered that 17,795 acres of these spoil heaps justified treatment, of which 1,763 acres or 10 per cent. were in Cornwall.

Annual Report

35.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government upon what criteria he decided not to produce an annual report for his department for 1965 or 1966, but to pro- duce a composite report for those years in the spring of 1967.

I would refer the hon. Member to my foreword to the Ministry's Handbook of Statistics, 1965, which was published by H.M.S.O. on 17th November.

Rural Water And Sewerage Schemes (Loan Sanction)

36 and 37.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) upon what criteria he has refused applications for loan sanction for rural water and sewerage schemes since 20th July, 1966;(2) for how many rural water and sewerage schemes he has refused sanction since 20th July, 1966, in Devonshire.

Applications, whether rural or urban, have been refused where the scheme seemed not to be urgently needed for housing, industry, public health, or to end gross polution of beaches.In Devon 14 were refused, of which 4 have since been allowed because my right hon. Friend was satisfied that they fulfilled these criteria.

Capital Expenditure Schemes

38.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what are his general criteria for refusing loan sanction for local authority capital expenditure programmes under the terms of Circular 42/66.

The circular sets out the criteria. Their object is to concentrate on the most vital projects the limited local authority investment which we can afford in present circumstances.

46.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will make a statement on the operation of Her Majesty's Government's policy of deferring some local authority capital expenditure schemes, as set out in Ministry of Housing and Local Government Circular 42/66.

The operation is going according to plan and my right hon. Friend has asked me to say how grateful lie is for the co-operation which he has had from local authorities in the present difficult circumstances.

Brunel Buildings, Temple Meads

42.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps are being taken to list the old railway station at Temple Meads, Bristol, as a building of great historical interest and as a memorial to the genius of the engineer, I. K. Brunel.

My right hon. Friend recognises the importance of the Brunel buildings at Temple Meads and has recently added them to the statutory list of buildings of special architectural or historical interest.

Allen Components Limited (Interest Rate)

43.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why he has instructed Camelford Rural District Council to charge Messrs. Allen Components Limited a rate of interest of 8½ per cent.

The authority was informed that in my right hon. Friend's view a rate of 8½ per cent. was appropriate both to conform with Board of Trade practice and to provide a reasonable return.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he sought the advice of the South West Regional Planning Council before instructing Camelford Rural District Council not to lend money to Messrs. Allen Components Limited at 7¼ per cent.

Rate Rebates

44.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what percentage of ratepayers in England and Wales are eligible for rate rebates; and what is the comparable figure for Cornwall.

The national estimate is a bout 11·3 per cent. of domestic rate payers. My right hon. Friend has no figures for separate counties.

56.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will consult with local authorities and with other Departments to ensure that applicants for free school meals and other provisions relating to low-income families are informed of the provisions relating to rate rebates.

Leaflets will be issued in the new year about rate debates to people drawing pensions and family allowances. My right hon. Friend will be considering other measures, and will bear my hon. Friend's suggestion in mind.

Radburn Committee (Proposals)

51.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if, in view of his foreword to his Department's Design Bulletin No. 10, it is now his policy to support the Radburn proposals on cars and housing.

My right hon. Friend is in favour of layouts which aim to provide separation between vehicles and pedestrians, provided they are designed well and at a reasonable cost.

Rock Metal Works, Jackfield (Smoke)

45.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what progress has been made in preventing the emission of thick smoke containing metal fumes from the factory of Rock Metal Works, Jackfield; and what further steps he has in mind to abate the nuisance.

Gas scrubbing plant has been ordered and a new chimney is being built. When these are working in a few months' time there should be much less smoke.

Direct Labour Department, Salford (Reports)

47.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will place in the Library a copy of the interim and final reports of Mr. Kenneth Dale and the report of the district auditor of Number 11 Audit District into the alleged overspending by the Salford City Direct Labour Building Department.

These reports were made to the Salford City Council, and I am, with the council's agreement, placing copies in the Library.

Rates

49.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he intends to take to make a substantial reduction in the rate burden.

The Government's policy remains as set out in the White Paper published in February.

52.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he proposes to take to ensure that the level of rates levied by local authorities during the period of severe restraint is frozen at the 1965–66 figure.

Local authorities have been urged to ensure the utmost possible economy this year and next.

Plant And Machinery (Rating) Order, 1960 (Fire-Fighting Equipment)

54.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the need to reverse the upward trend of national fire losses, he will take steps to amend the Plant and Machinery (Rating) Order 1960 so that fire-fighting equipment shall be exempt from assessment for rating purposes.

61.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Gvernment whether he is aware of the practice of local authorities of raising the rate assessment on industrial premises if sprinklers or other fire protection devices are installed; and whether he will review the relevant legislation with a view to giving greater encouragement for better fire protection measures to industrial establishments.

Any improvement which increases the letting value of a property is liable to lead to an increase in its rateable value. My right hon. Friend does not think that it would be practicable to make a special exception for fire-fighting equipment.

Sheffield

62.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will table the appropriate orders in Parliament before the Christmas Recess giving effect to the ward boundary redistribution in Sheffield.

No. Provision for the new warding arrangements for Sheffield will be included in the Order which will extend the city. This will be laid before Parliament in the New Year.

64.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if, in view of the fact that a Royal Commission has been given the task of investigating the whole aspect of local government, he will suspend the Sheffield Order until the Commission has reported.

No. The decision to accept with modifications the Local Government Commission's proposals for the extension of Sheffield was taken having regard to all the relevant facts and circumstances including the decision to set up the Royal Commission.

Derelict Land

63.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many grants have been made for the clearance of derelict land in the Northern Region during the year 1965 and up to the latest available date in 1966.

In 1965 ten schemes covering 113 acres were approved. Grant payable on these schemes will be £55,052.In 1966, up to 30th November, nine schemes covering 116 acres were approved on which the grant payable will be £111,899.Grants paid, mainly on schemes previously approved, during these periods amounted to £59,127 in 1965 and £60,296 in 1966.

65.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will reconsider his decision not to make a grant towards the cost of the derelict land in Wombwell which the West Riding County Council have scheduled for reclamation.

No application for grant is before my right hon. Friend. The council has sought an undertaking that loan sanction will be available for a number of reclamation projects, including a scheme in the Darfield-Wombwell area, when applications are made. This request will be discussed with representatives of the council.

66.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will give the number of acres if derelict land in the Dearne Valley constituency; and how many of these acres have been scheduled for reclamation.

I am informed by the local authorities concerned that there are 268 acres of derelict land in this area of which 81 acres are scheduled for reclamation.

Public Inquiries (Objectors' Costs)

69.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take steps to ensure that his decision to accept the Council of Tribunals' recommendation that costs should be awarded to a successful objector in a public inquiry will be implemented from the date on which the decision was announced.

No, the decision has been implemented from the date on which details of the changes in policy were announced.

Engravers (Hull) Limited (Interest Rate)

73 and 74.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) why he has instructed Kingston-upon-Hull City Council to charge Engravers (Hull) Limited a rate of interest of 9 per cent.;(2) whether he sought the advice of the Yorkshire and Humberside Regional Planning Council before instructing Kingston-upon-Hull City Council not to lend money to Engravers (Hull) Limited at 9 per cent.

The Answer to the first Question is that Kingston-upon-Hull Council has proposed financial arrangements which are the equivalent of an interest rate of 8⅛ per cent. In preliminary discussion the Department has suggested that a higher level of interest would be appropriate for local authorities outside development areas, subject to any representations which the council may wish to make about the special circumstances of this case.As regards the second Question the Answer is "No".

Airports (Noise)

72.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the increasing nuisance caused by noise at the principal airports, he will send a circular to the local authorities urging them to reexamine their development plans in such cases where land in proximity to airports is scheduled for housing or schools.

Planning authorities have power to review their plans at any time. The practical possibilities of change are a matter first of all for local judgment.

Planning Appeals

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what proposals he has for reducing the present time lag between the report of an inspector after a public local inquiry into a planning appeal and a final decision on that appeal by himself.

The organisation for handling appeals within the Ministry has been strengthened, but I am also considering more radical changes which would involve legislation. I hope to make an announcement before long.

Commercial Developers (Public Car Parks)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take steps to enable local planning authorities to require commercial developers to contribute to the capital cost of providing public car-parks in their vicinity as a condition of planning permission.

No. It is a recognised principle that no payment of money or other consideration can be required as a condition of granting planning permission.

Educational Standards (Lincolnshire)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in view of the fact that educational standards in South Yorkshire are below the average for the rest of the country, if he will take the necessary steps to prevent the affairs of Lindsey (Lincolnshire) County Council from entering the control of South Yorkshire.

Educational standards are a matter for my right hon. Friend, but I do not envisage any change in the status of Lincolnshire, Parts of Lindsey, as a local education authority in advance of decisions about English local government as a whole following the report of the Royal Commission on Local Government in England.

Housing

Direct Labour Scheme, Jarrow

30.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government for what reasons he has refused further subsidies to be used for a direct labour housing development scheme in Jarrow; and whether he will make a statement.

The scheme is expensive and the council has been asked to consider how it can be modified to reduce costs to an acceptable figure. If this can be done, and the council decides to go on with it, it will attract subsidy in the normal way.

Rent Registration, The Hartlepools (Applications)

33.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many applications have been made to the rent officer in The Hartlepools for a review of rent since he took office; how many rents have been reduced; and in how many of these cases the tenancies have been terminated following the reassessment.

In that County Borough of West Hartlepool up to 26th November the rent officer had received 17 applications for registration of rent and had determined 14 of these, reducing the original rent in 12 cases and increasing it in 2. On the second part of the Question, I understand that two of the tenants concerned have moved since the rent was registered. I have no separate information about the borough of Hartlepool which is part of the County of Durham registration area.

Rent Acts (Possession Orders)

34.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will seek to amend the Rent Acts to ensure that the courts may only grant orders for possession to those landlords who need possession for their own use or for that of their families or where there is a failure to pay rent.

I am aware of the particular case in which my hon. Friend is concerned, but the law was under review only last year and my right hon. Friend cannot do more at this stage than take note of his suggestion.

Housing Programme (Discussions)

40.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a statement on his discussions with representatives of the building and allied industries and of the building Societies Association regarding the housing targets in the National Housing Plan, which were foreshadowed in Command Paper No. 2838.

41.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will seek to initiate discussions with representatives of the building and allied industries and the mortgage loaning institutions in order to reconsider and revise the housing targets foreshadowed in Command Paper No. 2838.

55.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a statement on his discussions with representatives of the Building Societies Association and the building and allied industries on the level of future house building to be undertaken in any one year.

Discussions were held on 30th November between my officials and representatives of the building societies, builders and building materials producers and local authorities, about the housing programme. There was a full exchange of views and further meetings will be held as necessary to keep the housing programme under review.

Council Houses, Harrow (Rent Increases)

48.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is aware that the success of the Prices and Incomes Policy is being jeopardised by the London Borough of Harrow, which proposes to increase rents by up to 50 per cent. in January; and what action he proposes to take.

No. I would refer my hon. Friend to paragraph 20 of the White Paper "Prices and Incomes Standstill Period of Severe Restraint" (Cmnd. 3150) published on 22nd November, which gives the Government's views on council house rents and recognises that some increases may be inevitable. I am in communication with my hon. Friend on the particular question of rents in Harrow.

Council Houses

57.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in the light of the Government's policy on prices, he will take steps to assist those local authorities who, due to increased costs, are forced to increase rates and/or charge higher rents for council houses.

I have just introduced a Bill to provide much bigger subsidies for new council house building. Where authorities have rate resources below the average, grant will be payable on any contributions made from rates to the Housing Revenue Account.

59.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will issue a circular to local authorities directing them, when they purchase property by agreement, not to make a deduction from the purchase price in respect of rehousing the vendor in a council house; and whether he will make a statement on his policy in this regard.

Purchase by agreement is essentially a matter for negotiation between the parties concerned, but my right hon. Friend has made it plain that in his view the most appropriate course is to treat the purchase and the tenancy of a council house as separate considerations. It is for the local authority to determine the rent they will charge for the tenancy of the council house. My right hon. Friend has no power to make a direction.

Slum Clearance Areas

58.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if, in order to prevent people from being rehoused out of turn, he will seek power to require that, once an area has been represented to his Department as a slum clearance area, landlords may not relet to new tenants without consulting the local housing authority.

My right hon. Friend does not think new powers are required, though he is prepared to consider any information my hon. Friend wishes to give him.

Timber Framed Dwellings (Mortgages)

60.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will encourage local authorities to give mortgages on timber-framed dwellings.

My right hon. Friend has no reason to think that any advice from him is called for, but if my hon. Friend has any particular case in mind perhaps he will send me details.

Completions (Shrewsbury)

67.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the total number of houses built in Shrewsbury during the years 1964 and 1965; and what the totals will be in 1966 and 1967.

407 in 1964 and 544 in 1965. In the first 10 months of this year, 520 houses were completed; if this rate continues about 620 should be completed in 1966. It is too soon to make a forecast for 1967.

Controlled Tenancies

68.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will make an Order for rent officers to undertake assessments of rents fixed by the Rent Act 1957; and if he will make a statement.

I cannot add anything to the Answer I gave the hon. Member for Bournemouth, East and Christchurch (Mr. Cordle) on 18th October.—[Vol. 734, c. 1].

Housing Programmes (Northern Region)

70.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is satisfied with the numerical assessment of increasing housing requirements in the northern region as set out in the regional economic development plan; what proposals he has for achieving these targets; and if he will make a statement.

The Northern Economic Planning Council makes it clear that its report is a preliminary study only, put forward for public discussion, and not a regional plan. The council's views are being borne in mind during the present revision and rolling forward of the long-term local authority housing programmes in the region.

71.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many houses he estimates will be completed in the northern region in 1966.

15,795 houses were completed in the first ten months of this year. If this rate continues the total for the year should be about 19,000.

Housing Associations

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has to stimulate the growth of non-profit-making and co-operative housing associations.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I have today given in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon, South (Mr. Winnick).

Bristol Rent Assessment Committee

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government on what date a rent tribunal was set up in Bristol; how many cases have been dealt with; how many await consideration; what was the maximum rent reduction awarded; how many cases resulted in an increase in rent; and what has been the average reduction in rents.

I take it that my hon. Friend has in mind the Birstol Rent Assessment Panel, which started operations on 16th March, 1966. As at 26th November committees of this Panel had determined rents under regulated tenancies in 29 cases and 6 cases awaited consideration. The original rent was increased in 13 cases and reduced in 16. In the latter cases, the maximum reduction was £96 per annum, the average £33.

Central Housing Advisory Committee (Report)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will make a statement on the Central Housing Advisory Committee Report on Standards of Housing Fitness.

Many of this important report's conclusions and recommendations are of a far-reaching character, and my right hon. Friend thinks it right that he should first consult with the local authority interests concerned. He will make a statement as soon as possible after that.

Completions

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many new housing units per 1,000 of the population were supplied in the years 1945 to 1965.

Following are the figures:

NEW PERMANENT DWELLINGS COMPLETED PER 1,000 OF THE POPULATION OF GREAT BRITAIN
19450·119556·4
19461·219566·0
19473·019576·0
19484·719585·4
19494·119595·5
19504·019605·8
19514·019615·8
19524·919625·9
19536·519635·7
19547·019647·1
19657·2

Commonwealth Affairs

Zambia (Assistance)

75.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs to what extent financial assistance to Zambia occasioned by sanctions against Rhodesia is related to purchases of British goods; and what contracts have been obtained by United Kingdom enterprises in connection with new pipelines and transport systems in that regard.

Wherever possible, equipment supplied as part of our contingency assistance to Zambia already agreed has been of British manufacture. Resulting orders to the approximate value of £2 million have been placed with British suppliers for locomotives, trucks, road tankers, oil storage and transport equipment and airport equipment. None of our contingency assistance has been directed towards new oil pipelines, and no contracts for pipelines have so far been obtained in Zambia by British firms.

Rhodesia

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what new proposals have been made to Commonwealth Governments and to the United States of America about Rhodesia.

We remain in close touch with Commonwealth and the United States Governments.

Singapore (Defence Treaty)

77.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what proposals have been made to the Government of Singapore about a defence treaty specifying British military rights and responsibilities on the island.

None. Since separation the Singapore Government have made it plain that they regard the previous defence arrangements with Britain as continuing in force.

Ministry Of Power

North Sea Gas

78 and 79.

asked the Minister of Power (1) whether he is satisfied that he has received adequate detailed information from producers of North Sea gas on the cost of their operations; and whether he will publish this information in a White Paper or by some other suitable means:

(2) whether it is Government policy to ensure that the price to be paid by the Gas Council for supplies of North Sea gas found by other producers should be related to cost; and if he will make a statement.

I have no doubt that the negotiations between the Gas Council and the licensees will take account of cost estimates, along with other relevant factors, but any such figures will be confidential

Coal

Domestic Fuels (Price Equalisation)

81.

asked the Minister of Power whether he will introduce legislation to provide that household coal and other solid fuel shall be retailed at the same price in all parts of the country.

I have nothing to add to the Reply I gave to the hon. Member on 21st June.—[Vol. 710 c. 272.]

National Coal Board (Equity Holdings)

asked the Minister of Power what percentage of the total book value of equity holdings in trade undertakings not wholly owned by the National Coal Board was in respect of public quoted companies at the date of the last balance sheet.

None of the undertakings in which the National Coal Board have equity holdings are publicly quoted.

Pneumoconiosis (South Western Division)

asked the Minister of Power in what percentage of the miners employed in the No. 1 area of the South Western Division, who had been certified as suffering from pneumoconiosis, and who died during the period 1945 to 1966, was pneumoconiosis found to be a contributory cause of death.

I regret that the precise information is not available, but I am writing to the hon. Member.

118.

asked the Minister of Power how many miners employed in the No. 1 area of the South Western Division of the National Coal Board were certified as suffering from pneumoconiosis in the period 1945 to 1966; and what percentage this is of the total employed.

I regret that the information is only available from 1952 as follows:

NUMBER 1 (SWANSEA) AREA OF SOUTH WESTERN DIVISION OF N.C.B.
Pneumoconiosis
Number of boardings in the coal mining industry at which the disease was first diagnosedExpressed as percentage of mineworkers overall
1952500·7based on end year figures of wage-earners
1953470·7
1954240·4
1955771·2
19561031·5
1957570·8
1958410·6
1959630·9
19601021·5
1961681·1
1962641·0
1963370·6
1964260·4
1965*710·8
* Includes part of Neath area.

Technology

Columnaris Disease (Investigations)

82.

asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement on the investigations now being carried out under his authority by the Torry Research Laboratory and other scientific bodies under Government authority into the columnaris disease afflicting salmon and other fish.

The Torry Research Station is identifying species of bacteria which are possible sources of the current disease of salmon. Other investigations into the nature, causes and means of transmission of the disease are being undertaken by the Fisheries Department of the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland and the Ministry of Agriculture of Northern Ireland. The Central Public Health Laboratories of the Ministry of Health, and the Freshwater Biological Association, are also co-operating.

Information Storage And Retrieval

asked the Minister of Technology (1) what contacts he has made with overseas countries, including Europe, the United States of America, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics for co-ordinating and standardising systems and codes, and for carrying out research and development into information storage and retrieval using computers and telecommunication systems, in order to avoid duplication of effort;(2) what contacts he has made with Commonwealth countries for co-ordinating and standardising systems and codes, and for carrying out research and development into information storage and retrieval using computers and telecommunication systems, in order to avoid duplication of effort.

Research and development into information storage and retrieval is the responsibility of the Minister in whose Department the requirement arises, but I am keeping in touch with the many developments in this rapidly expanding field. The Office for Scientific and Technical Information (for which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science is responsible) is stimulating co-operation wherever practical between appropriate institutions in the United Kingdom and the U.S.A. with the aim of avoiding duplication of effort. It is also in touch with development in the Commonwealth through the Commonwealth Scientific Committee; in O.E.C.D. countries through the O.E.C.D. Group on Scientific Information Policy and with the U.S.S.R. through a recent exchange of visits. Its policy is to work towards the standardisation of systems, including indexing languages and computer programmes.International standards for computers and data processing are being worked out in the International Standards Organisation and the International Electrotechnical Commission in which the British Standards Institution represents the United Kingdom. The Institution takes part in all working groups in these bodies on these subjects. The work of these bodies covers, among other things character recognition, and the coding and transmission of data. Several Commonwealth countries are members of these organisations.International telecommunications standards are formulated by the Comité Consultatif International Telegraphique et Telephonique (C.C.I.T.T.) in which the General Post Office makes a leading contribution to the United Kingdom viewpoint.

National Finance

Selective Employment Tax (Public Bodies)

86.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if any public bodies, such as river boards, are being given special preferential terms of Selective Employment Tax repayment compared with the quarterly payments that are to be made to farmers and others.

Various public bodies akin to river boards will come within Section 4 of the Selective Employment Payments Act. Like local authorities they will receive repayments at monthly intervals.

Entertainment (Overseas Visitors)

83.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will instruct Government Departments to keep records showing how much the sum spent on entertaining is used entirely for hospitality to overseas visitors.

Income Tax (Retirement Pensions)

84.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, as a means of assisting retirement pensions to overcome the difficulties of the rising cost of living, he will seek to allow the first £2 of any retirement pension to be drawn tax free.

No. I do not think my hon. Friend's suggestion would be a suitable way to meet cases of need.

The Mint (Decimal Currency)

85.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has to increase the capacity of the Mint to take account of the change-over to a decimal currency; whether he is satisfied that the present site of the Mint is adequate; and if he will establish the Mint in Scotland, in the interests of regional development.

This whole question is at present under active consideration. I hope to be able to make a statement shortly. The claims of Scotland will be borne in mind along with those of other areas.

Import Duty

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of a recent judicial decision that Import Duty should be levied upon the estimated trade price of imported goods rather than upon the retail price, whether he has yet issued fresh instructions to Customs Officers at ports and airports to this effect; and whether he will send a copy of these instructions to the hon. Member for Harrow, West.

Instructions to Customs Officers naturally conform with the law and they have been aligned with the recent decision referred to. As regards the second part of the Question, it is not the practice to disclose departmental instructions.

Investment Programmes, Scotland (Nationalised Boards)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how the reduction of £6 million in the investment programmes in Scotland of the nationalised industries, resulting from the Government's announcement on 20th July, is to be apportioned between those industries.

The proposed split was:

£ million
Scottish Electricity Boards4·0
National Coal Board1·7
British Railways Board0·3
6·0
The proposed reduction of £4 million in respect of the Scottish Electricity Boards is being further examined in the current investment review.

Public Sector Expenditure (Goods And Services)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will show public authorities' current expenditure on goods and services plus gross fixed capital formation of public authorities and public corporations as a percentage of gross domestic product, all at 1958 prices, for each year from 1946.

The following table shows public authorities' current expenditure on goods and services plus gross domestic fixed capital formation of public authorities and public corporations as a percentage of gross domestic product at 1958 factor cost for the years 1948 to 1965:

Public Sector Expenditure on Goods and Services (Current and Capital) as a Percentage of Gross Domestic Product.
Per cent.
194825·8
194927·0
195026·5
195127·6
195230·2
195330·3
195429·1
195527·3
195626·6
195726·1
195825·6
195925·7
196025·0
196125·3
196226·0
196325·7
196425·9
196526·3
I regret that figures for 1946 and 1947 are not available.

Information Storage And Retrieval

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much money has been allocated to research and development in the use of computers and telecommunication systems for information storage and retrieval by all Government Departments in the current year; what proposals he has for accelerating this work; and what sum of money will be allocated for this purpose next year.

Many of the automatic data processing projects at present under development in Government Departments will be used in part for information storage and retrieval, but it is not practicable to separate that element of the cost which is attributable to this facet. The Office for Scientific and Technical Information has been allocated £290,000 for 1966–67 for research and development into scientific and technical information services and part of this sum will be used for computer and telecommunication aspects of this work. This Office's estimate for 1967–68 will be published in the Civil Estimates.

Scotland

School Bursaries (Lanarkshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total number of applications for higher school bursaries in Lanarkshire for the current session; how many were refused; how many were granted in full; and how many were awarded less than £10, more than £10 but less than £20, and more than £20 but less than £30, respectively.

The following information has been received from the Education Authority:

Pupils in 3rd/4th YearsPupils in 5th/6th YearsTotal
Applications received1,0901,1832,273
Applications refused6805911,271
Maximum bursaries7352125
Bursaries under £104865113
Bursaries £10 to £197459133
Bursaries £20 to £294271113

Notes:

1. The remaining pupils whose applications were accepted were awarded bursaries of less than the maximum but more than £29.

2. The maximum rates payable are £70 for pupils in the third or fourth years of a secondary course and £100 for pupils in the fifth or sixth year.

Grant-Aided Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the independent and grant-aided schools in Scotland which currently receive grants from Exchequer or local authority funds together with the amount given to each in the last financial year and the number of pupils attending each.

This information is given in the table set out below. The amount shown is, in each case, that given, or estimated to be given, in the school financial year ending in 1966.

SCHOOLS RECEIVING GRANTS FROM EXCHEQUER OR LOCAL AUTHORITY FUNDS

Name of School

Grant

Contributions from Education Authorities

Roll

Grant-aided Secondary Schools

ABERDEEN
Albyn School for Girls38,375517
Convent of Sacred Heart Secondary School for Girls20,529172215
Robert Gordon's College87,1553,2501,149
St. Margaret's School for Girls32,115410
DUNDEE
High School of Dundee81,4041,1131,101
EDINBURGH
Daniel Stewart's College258,610890941
Mary Erskine School for Girls964
George Watson's College1,481
George Watson's Ladies' College982
George Heriot's School96,0701,504
John Watson's School26,496429
Melville College35,550536
St. Mary's Cathedral Choir School4,00237
GLASGOW
Craigholme School25,958564
Hulcheson's Boys' Grammar School127,1813,017835
Hutcheson's Girls' Grammar School904
Kelvinside Academy42,250627
Laurel Bank School37,425604
St. Aloysius' College54,5063,730768
Westbourne School for Girls31,404588
AYR
Troon, Marr College65,0705,000739
CLACKMANNAN
Dollar Academy71,86010,667776
DUMFRIES
Benedictine Convent School10,8877,258138
St. Joseph's College21,5408,220496
PERTH AND KINROSS
Morrison's Academy (Boys)64,37115,884419
Morrison's Academy (Girls)443

Girls' School Company

Glasgow, The Park School101,229483
Helensburgh, St. Bride's School372
Kilmacolm, St. Columbia's School433

Demonstration Schools managed by Colleges of Education

Aberdeen7,5625,041170
Dundee10,5697,046255
EDINBURGH
Craiglockhart6,1094,072250
Moray House18,44812,299305
GLASGOW
Jordanhill58,63139,0881,070

Independent School

St. Nicholas
Bridge of Don2,00030

New Town Development Corporations (Loans)

87.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many firms, in receipt of grants from Scottish Development corporations during the past 10 years, have closed down; and what was the amount of public funds lost as a result of such closures.

New town development corporations cannot give grants to firms. They can and do give loans to enable firms to provide their own premises, and also provide premises for firms on deferred purchase terms.

In the past 10 years only one firm, Cadco Developments Limited, which was assisted by a Scottish new town development corporation in either of these ways has closed down. On the loss to public funds I would refer to the Answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton) on 30th November.—[Vol. 737, c. 106–108.]

Local Authority Capital Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now list the local authority offices, recreational facilities, etc., which will be affected by the cut announced on 20th July of £2 million in investment under these headings in the year 1967–68.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave on 29th July to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor).—[Vol. 732, c. 361 and 362]

Road Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now list the roads affected by the cut of £1·2 million in the Scottish road programme for 1967–68 announced on 20th July.

At this stage in the preparation of the schemes for 1967–68 I cannot yet say.

Glasgow Hospitals (Registrars)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the official establishment of registrars for the Royal Infirmary, Western Infirmary, Southern General Hospital, Eastern General Hospital, Stobhill Hospital, Victoria Infirmary and Sick Children's Hospital, all in Glasgow, respectively; and what were the corresponding personnel actually employed at the end of September, 1966.

There is no official establishment of registrars; the number of registrars employed at these Glasgow hospitals at the end of September, 1966 was as follows:

Royal Infirmary72(12)
Western Infirmary65(18)
Southern General Hospital20
Eastern District Hospital4
Stobhill Hospital35
Victoria Infirmary33(1)
Royal Hospital for Sick Children6

Figures in brackets represent honorary appointments included in the total number.

Winter Keep Scheme (Acreage)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average arable acreage of farms by categories in Scotland which qualify for payment under the Winter Keep Scheme.

As payment is made on the acreage of eligible crops, the information is not readily available in this form. The average acreage grant-aided under the Winter Keep Scheme for each category is as follows (based on applications for grant for the 1965 cropping year):

CategoryAcreage Grant-aided
A55
B47
C28

Hill Cattle And Hill Sheep Subsidies

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many cattle in Scotland qualify for the hill cow subsidy in the current period, how many ewes qualify for the hill sheep subsidy; and what are the proportions of each as percentages for Scotland in Banffshire.

The following is the information:

ScotlandBanffshire as percentage of Scottish total
Hill cattle285,0004·7
(estimate)(estimate)
Hill sheep2,459,4000·7

Ministry Of Aviation

Supersonic Airliners (International Consultations)

88.

asked the Minister of Aviation what consultations he has held with other Governments regarding their views upon the sonic bang problems which their citizens will experience following the introduction of the Concord airliner upon the world's airline routes; and which Governments have indicated their reluctance to permit overflights by supersonic civil airliners.

We have had consultations with the French and American authorities regarding the problems arising from the operation of supersonic airliners, and we have also taken part in multilateral discussions in I.C.A.O. As regards the second part of the Question, while Governments around the world recognise that S.S.T. operations will require some special regulation, none has indicated to us that it will prohibit overflights.

Education And Science

Sports Organisations (Recreational Charities)

89.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science which sports organisations are classed as charities; and what criteria are applied in considering additional applications by sports organisations for consideration as charities.

Sports organisations as such are not charitable in law but are classed as recreational charities if they satisfy the conditions prescribed by Section 1 of the Recreational Charities Act, 1958.

Universities (Grant)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement about the recurrent grant to be made available to the universities of Great Britain for the academic year 1967–68.

Yes. As the House will be aware, it was decided that, in order to give the universities a firm planning base for the first year of the quinquennium beginning next August, a provisional figure for that year should be decided and allocated between the universities before the end of 1966. After considering the advice of the University Grants Committee this has been settled at £147·5 million. The U.G.C. will now allocate this amount between the universities. The corresponding figure for the current academic year 1966–67 is estimated at £133 million. The increase between the two years is attributable partly to the increase in students planned for next year to the Robbins target of 197,000, and partly to price increases which universities have had to absorb under the block grant arrangements since the last adjustment on this account in 1964–65. It does not include the cost of research work to be taken over from Research Council funds, or provision for local authority rates, which will be separately dealt with.This provisoinal figure will be reviewed next year in the light of advice from the U.G.C. when they have completed their consideration of the estimates put forward by the universities for the quinquennium 1967–68–1971–72. The final figure will then be incorporated in the full Quinquennial Settlement.

Board Of Trade

Industrial Grants (Closure Of Undertakings)

90.

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many firms in receipt of grants from public funds during the past 10 years, have closed down; and what was the amount of public funds lost as a result of such closures.

Forty firms which received grants from the Board in the last ten year' are known to have closed down the undertakings to which these grants were related. The grants totalled approximately £100,000. The Board was able to claim repayment of about £80,000 and has so far recovered nearly £69,000.

Soap Powders

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make orders to ensure that soap powders are marketed in uniform quantities so that the housewife can have a standard to assess relative values.

Cadco Developments Limited (Report)

asked the President of the Board of Trade when he received the report from his inspectors on Cadco Limited; and if he will make a statement.

The report of the inspectors who investigated the affairs of Cadco Developments Limited, Royal Victoria Sausages Limited and Victoria Wholesale Meats Limited was received on 18th August, 1965. I referred it to the Lord Advocate and the Director of Public Prosecutions on 23rd August, 1965. The Board of Trade gave no assistance under the Local Employment Acts to this project. The Board of Trade Advisory Committee made a thorough investigation into the company's application for a building grant and advised against it; the Board accordingly refused a grant.

Hotel Industry (Loans)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made with the Hotel Loan Scheme announced by the Prime Minister on 20th July.

I have now completed my consultations with the hotel industry, and the Board of Trade will be prepared to receive applications for loans under the scheme from 2nd January next.To be eligible for a loan under the scheme, a project must satisfy three conditions. First, the Board of Trade must be satisfied that it will provide accommodation of a type and standard likely to be acceptable to overseas visitors and to result in significant new or increased earnings from overseas guests staying at the hotel. Second, the project must involve capital expenditure of not less than £20,000 for new buildings, or for the procurement and installation of fixed plant or equipment. Third, work must not have begun on the site before 20th July, 1966. In other respects, the scheme will be as I described it on 26th July.To advise me on applications for loans under the scheme. I am establishing a Hotel Loans Advisory Committee. The Chairman of this Committee will be Sir William Slimmings; other members will be Sir Leonard Cooke, Mr. D. J. Davies, Mr. E. C. Garner, Mr. C. R. Hinds Howell and Professor S. Medlik. I am consulting the Secretary of State for Scotland about the appointment of a seventh member.

European Economic Community

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the increased interest of Members in the Common Market, he will allocate responsibilities in this field, at present allocated to the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, to a Minister who has no other duties.

No. The position remains as I explained it to the House in answer to a supplementary Question by the hon. and learned Member for Darwen (Mr. Fletcher-Cooke) on 17th November.—[Vol. 736, c. 626–7.]

Information Storage And Retrieval

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister which Ministers have the responsibility for developing, as well as carrying out research into, information storage and retrieval, using computers and telecommunications systems; and who is responsible for the supervision, standardisation and co-ordination of work carried out by the Government, universities, research associations and industry in this field.

My right hon. Friends the Minister of Technology and the Secretary of State for Education and Science have responsibilities for research and development in this field. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science also has a wider responsibility for co-ordination in the field of scientific and technical information as he explained to the House in answer to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Hull, West (Mr. James Johnson) on 27th April. 1965.

Shipbuilding Industry (Departmental Responsibility)

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister on what date responsibility for shipbuilding will be transferred from the Board of Trade to the Ministry of Technology; and how many senior civil servants will move over.

As the hon. Member will know from Statutory Instrument 1410, this was done on 21st November. A total of 19 staff of all grades was transferred from the Board of Trade to the Ministry of Technology following the Order.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister whether any Minister has been given special responsibility for the shipbuilding and ship-repair industry, under the new arrangements.

Security Service (Ministerial Responsibility)

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister which Ministers of the Crown, besides himself, have been allocated any responsibility for the direction, administration or co-ordination of the security services.

The present arrangements for Ministerial responsibility for the Security Service remain as described in detail in Lord Denning's Report and as endorsed by the then Government at that time.

Minister Of Transport (Speech)

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech on railway policy made by the Minister of Transport at a dinner given by British Railways in London on 25th October, 1966 represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

Government Statistics

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied that the statistics currently available to the Government enable it to measure the consequences of the cutback announced on 20th July; what changes have taken place in the methods of collecting and publishing such statistics; and if he will make a statement.

I am satisfied that our statistical information is broadly adequate for the purposes it has to serve, but there is room for improvement and this is continually being studied. As for recent changes, I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave earlier today to a Question by the hon. Member for Worthing (Mr. Higgins). If the hon. Member wants more detailed information on any particular point, perhaps he would let me know.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will set up a Government co-ordination committee to review the findings of the survey of Government statistics being carried out by the director of the Oxford Institute of Economics and Statistics.

Foreign Secretary (Speech)

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs on 21st November on Germany represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

Cadco Developments Limited (Report)

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if he is aware that the Board of Trade Report on Cadco Developments Limited, published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office on 30th November at 3.30 p.m., was made available to the Press at least 24 hours earlier and that no copy was supplied to the hon. Member for West Fife, although he had been closely involved in this case for two years; and whether, in view of these facts, he will take steps to ensure that the rules governing the publication of Government Reports give at least as favourable consideration to any hon. Member concerned as to any section of the Press.

The normal and long-standing procedures were followed in this case.

The Six (Visits By Prime Minister And Foreign Secretary)

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister whether, after the meeting of the European Free Trade Association's Prime Ministers, he is in a position to say what progress is being made with the programme of visits by himself and the Foreign Secretary to the capitals of the countries of the Six.

Yes. My right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary and I will be visiting Rome on 16th and 17th January and Paris on 24th and 25th January, 1967. The programme of visits to the other capitals of the Six is still being worked out.

Rhodesia

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister whether, after his talks with Mr. Ian Smith, he will make a further statement on Rhodesia.

I would refer the hon. and learned Member to the Statement I made to the House last night.

Royal Commissions (Members)

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if he will ensure in the future that Royal Commissions set up to consider the internal administration of England and Wales will contain one or more Members from Wales or persons who have an intimate knowledge of Welsh affairs.

It would not be right, I think, for me to lay down a specific rule because much depends on the circumstances of a particular case. I can, however, assure the hon. and learned Member that all relevant considerations are taken into account when appointing members to Royal Commissions.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Christmas Puddings (Price Of Ingredients)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take immediate steps to ensure that the shop prices of all the ingredients of Christmas puddings are frozen.

Our Ministry's price surveillance under the "early warning" or "constant watch" arrangements covers almost all the ingredients of Christmas puddings. We have however always recognised that it is not possible to freeze the price of foodstuffs we buy from abroad, or whose supply fluctuates markedly.We have impressed on the representatives of the wholesale and retail grocery trade the need to do all in their power to keep prices steady this Christmas.

Agricultural Mortgage Corporation (Applications)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if the Agricultural Mortgage Corporation will give special consideration to applications for mortgage advances from farmers in Wales where difficult conditions of agricultural mortgage facilities exist.

The Agricultural Mortgage Corporation is an independent body. The consideration of applications is a matter for its own commercial judgment.

Sugar Surcharge

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what will be the estimated receipts from a surcharge on sugar of 4¼d. a pound over a 12-month period from 29th November, 1966, if the surcharge is maintained at that level for that period of time.

The amount of surcharge depends on the level of the London Daily Price which fluctuates in relation to only about 10 per cent. of total world production. This is currently at the lowest since the war and the calculation of what receipts would be if the surcharge remained at the level corresponding with this price, viz. £100 million is hypothetical and could be misleading.

Narcotic Baits (Experiments)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what are his conclusions on the programme of experiments with narcotic baits which has been conducted by his Department; and if these tests are now at an end.

Experiments are not completed and it is too early to draw conclusions from them.

Hill Cow And Hill Sheep Subsidies

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what are the average stocking rates per acre for those holdings in England and Wales in receipt of hill cow subsidy, and for those in receipt of hill sheep subsidy.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the average acreage of holdings in England and Wales in receipt of hill cow subsidy and of hill sheep subsidy; and how many units are in receipt of each subsidy.

I regret that the information requested in the first part of the Question is not readily available. The number of holdings in England and Wales in receipt of hill cow subsidy this year is estimated as 14,500, and in receipt of hill sheep subsidy as 11,600.

Agricultural Land (Owner-Occupied Holdings)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the proportion of both the area and number of holdings of agricultural land which is owner-occupied and let, respectively, for each county in England, Scotland and Wales.

The latest figures are published in Agricultural Statistics 1962–63: England and Wales (H.M.S.O., London 1965) and in Agricultural Statistics 1965: Scotland (H.M.S.O., Edinburgh 1966).

River Teifi (Flood Prevention Work)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the danger from late autumn floods, he will cause works to combat the danger of the flooding of the River Teifi at Llechryd, Cardiganshire, to be commenced.

Since I sent my recent letter to my hon. Friend saying that we are giving these proposals urgent attention, the River Authority has advised that if is in a position to start work this month instead of as it previously antici- pated early in 1967. We have, therefore, authorised it to start work without prejudice to the decision about grant aid and a formal decision will be given as soon as our examination of the proposals has been completed.

Ministry Of Defence

New Military Hospital, Catterick

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans are being considered for a new military hospital in the Catterick area; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is considering plans for a new military hospital of about 200 beds at Catterick. It is hoped that work may start in 1970, but a final decision has not yet been taken.

Economic Affairs

Prices And Incomes Board (Evidence)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what measures he proposes to deal with the situation when a body refuses to submit relevant evidence to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

This is a matter for the National Board for Prices and Incomes in accordance with paragraph 14(4) of Schedule 1 of the Prices and Incomes Act, 1966.

Temporary Import Charge (Removal)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will ensure that the companies concerned reduce their prices as a result of the withdrawal of the import surcharge.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my hon. Friend, the Minister of State on 1st December to the hon. Members for Renfrew, West (Mr. Buchan) and Haltemprice (Mr. Wall).—[Vol. 737, c. 593–5.]

Economic Planning Councils (Membership Review)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs when he intends to review the membership of the economic planning councils and, in particular, that of the West Midlands.

When councils were first established, members were appointed for three years. During this period vacancies may arise or there may in some cases be a need to make additional appointments and I intend to review membership annually. I have reviewed the existing membership of the West Midlands Council and have made the following appointments up to the end of the present three year period:

  • Mr. J. B. Cullingworth, Director, Centre for Urban and Regional Studies, Faculty of Commerce and Social Science, Birmingham University.
  • Councillor G. E. Hill, Member, Solihull County Borough.
  • Mr. W. N. P. Jones, Clerk of the Shropshire County Council.
  • Mr. J. C. Mason, District Secretary, General and Municipal Workers Union
  • Mr. J. H. W. Melvin, District Organisation Officer, National Association of Local Government Officers.

Home Department

Island Prisons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the present concern about prison escapes and the comparative security of Parkhurst Gaol, he will consider establishing more island prisons.

A new closed prison is nearing completion at Albany, Isle of Wight. It is also proposed to build nearby a special block for prisoners requiring the highest degree of security. The question whether more prisons should be built on islands is within the scope of Lord Mountbatten's inquiry.

Life Imprisonment (Releases On Licence)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons serving sentences of life imprisonment who had been released on licence were recalled to prison within the past five years; and how many such persons have been subsequently released on licence on a second occasion, giving the dates of recall and release thereafter.

Six, two of whom have been released on licence a second time. These two were recalled on 24th July, 1963, and 10th July, 1964, and released on 31st August, 1964, and 11th May, 1966, respectively.

Licensed Premises (Television Broadcasts)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions were brought in the Metropolitan Police area in 1965 under Section 10(1) of the Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act, 1963, for providing facilities for seeing television broadcasts on licensed premises.

Ministry Of Labour

Selective Employment Tax (Registrations In Wales)

asked the Minister of Labour how many firms in Wales, and how many in Swansea, have registered for premiums or refunds on the Selective Employment Tax; and how the figures of registrations compare with those anticipated by his Department.

The number of applications for registration of establishments in Swansea and in Wales received by my Ministry by 30th November, 1966, and the Ministry's estimates of the numbers for which applications have yet to be made, are:—

SWANSEA
Applications receivedEstimated numbers outstanding
EstablishmentsWorkersEstablishmentsWorkers
Premium967,697201,000
Refund371,54250500
WALES
Applications receivedEstimated numbers outstanding
EstablishmentsWorkersEstablishmentsWorkers
Premium1,762219,7601,000100,000
Refund63116,02360028,000

Redundant Workers

asked the Minister of Labour what action is being taken to persuade employers to engage workmen who were formerly redundant and are over 55 years of age.

My officers give the same assistance to obtain employment to all redundant workers, irrespective of age. With workmen over 55 years of age, it has been the Ministry's policy to persuade employers to consider them on their capacity to do the job and not make age a bar to employment. I am happy to say we have had some success with these approaches.

North Road Railway Workshops, Darlington (Unemployed Workmen)

asked the Minister of Labour how many workmen formerly employed at North Road Railway workshops, Darlington, which closed on 1st April, 1966, are still unemployed; and how many of this number are over 55 years of age.

98 of these workers are still unemployed and 76 are over 55 years of age.

Unemployment (England And Wales)

asked the Minister of Labour what percentages of those registered as unemployed in Wales and in England, respectively, are stopped temporarily, school leavers, and wholly unemployed, respectively.

Following is the information for 14th November, 1966:

WalesEngland
per cent.per cent.
Temporarily stopped7·921·7
School leavers1·70·5
Wholly unemployed (excluding school leavers)90·477·8

asker the Minister of Labour what is the ratio of vacancies to persons unemployed in England and Wales, respectively.

The ratios of unfilled vacancies to persons wholly unemployed in England and Wales in November, 1966 were 1 to 1·5 and 1 to 4·7, respectively.

It must be borne in mind that not all vacancies are notified to Employment Exchanges and Youth Employment Offices.

asked the Minister of Labour what percentages of persons wholly unemployed are for personal reasons difficult to place in employment in England and Wales, respectively.

The survey of the characteristics of the unemployed, carried out in October, 1964, showed 59·3 per cent. in England and 56·3 per cent. in Wales.

asked the Minister of Labour what percentage increase there has been in persons wholly unemployed since July in England and Wales, respectively.

Between 11th July, 1966, and 14th November, 1966, numbers of persons registered as wholly unemployed in England and Wales increased by 82·1 and 63·2 per cent., respectively.

asked the Minister of Labour what percentage of persons thrown out of employment in Wales since July has found work in Wales; what percentage has left Wales; and what are the numbers involved.

This information is not available for similar reasons to those given in my reply of 11th November to the hon. Member for Oswestry (Mr. Biffen).—[Vol. 135, c. 387–8.]

Government Training Centre, Wales

asked the Minister of Labour when the proposed new training centre in Wales will come into operation.

Provided a site can be found fairly quickly, I expect the centre to open in 1968–69.

Government Training Centre, Cumberland

asked the Minister of Labour if he will set up the fourth Government training centre in Cumberland.

Yes. As my hon. Friend announced yesterday, the fourth Government Training Centre in the expansion programme announced on 30th November will be in Cumberland.—[Vol. 737, c. 460–72.]

Ministry Of Health

Welfare Homes For Elderly Persons, Brighton

asked the Minister of Health what effect the credit squeeze has had on the building of welfare homes for elderly people in the area controlled by Brighton Corporation; and how many places were provided in such homes in each of the years 1945 to 1965.

The Answer to the first part of the Question is "None", but I am writing to my hon. Friend to explain the position more fully. The number of places provided by Brighton prior to 1949 is not available but the following Table sets out the numbers from 1949 to November, 1966:

BRIGHTON COUNTY BOROUGH
YearTotal number of places for elderly persons in residential accommodation provided under Part III of the National Assistance Act 1948*
1949256
1950295
1951344
1952352
1953393
1954424
1955435
1956456
1957453
1958485
1959522
1960559
1961533
1962579
1963557
1964588
1965620
November 1966607
* (i) Includes places in homes run by other local authorities and voluntary bodies.
(ii) Excludes places in Brighton County Borough homes used by residents of other local authorities.

Social Security

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Minister of Social Security if she will publish a list of the payments made to claimants for supple- mentary benefits with dependent wife and two children; and how these figures compare with the minimum rates laid down by the Wages Council Orders affected by the Government decision for payment in January, 1967.

A general comparison with wage rates is not possible, because the amount of supplementary benefit depends on a number of varying factors such as the rent paid, the ages of children, and any exceptional expenses. I am however sending my hon. Friend some information about supplementary benefits which may help him.

asked the Minister of Social Security why she has cut the amount of savings from £600 under National Assistance to £325 under the new Social Security arrangements due to operate in December as the disregard before reductions are made in the basic supplementary pension.

There has been no such cut. Apart from "war savings" any savings of £125 or more led to a reduction in the National Assistance allowance. Under the new supplementary benefit scheme, savings of at least £300 and, often, up to £800, are wholly disregarded.

Universities And Colleges Of Advanced Technology (Research Contracts)

asked the Minister of Social Security if she will give details of any contracts for research which her Department has placed with universities or colleges of advanced technology, and of the value of such contracts.

My Department is spending some £30,000 this year on external research; but none of it happens to be represented by contracts of the kind which my hon. Friend has in mind.

Poverty (Wales)

asked the Minister of Social Security what is the total number of adult persons in Wales who are in a condition of poverty as the same is officially defined: what proportion this is of the adult population in Wales; and what is the corresponding percentage for England.

Part-Time Work (Disregard)

asked the Minister of Social Security whether her Department has now completed its studies of the present limit of 40s. a week below which part-time work in places of entertainment and certain other employment is disregarded for National Insurance purposes but not for industrial Insurance purposes; and with what result.

Widows' Benefits (Review)

asked the Minister of Social Security whether the review of the social security system will contain reference to the adverse position of widows who were married after 1948, and, therefore, only receive 26 weeks' benefit.

I think my hon. Friend has in mind the condition under which a widow with no children must

University/CollegeProjectTotal Estimated Cost
£
1. Edinburgh UniversityChoice of building systems for multi-storey housing in Salford, Lancs2,250
2. Exeter University (now transferred to Manchester University).Factors affecting growth and efficiency in the building industry1,900
3. Glasgow UniversityMethods of choosing and controlling boiler plant for heating buildings9,800
4. Liverpool UniversityThermal response of multi-cell buildings to climatic variations9,250
5. London School of EconomicsForms of contract management in the construction industry20,400
6. London School of EconomicsContinuity of employment in the construction industry (completed)975
7. London, University CollegeTrends in building prices11,000
8. London, University CollegeEffect of the design of buildings on their flexibility in use (completed)2,703
9. Manchester University (continuation of 2 above).Factors affecting growth and efficiency in the building industry4,500
10. Newcastle UniversityThermal and illumination environment in buildings7,100
11. Newcastle UniversityWindow design; cleaning access and safety aspects5,420
12. Royal College of ArtWindow design; mechanical and ergonomic aspects6,400

Transport

Motor Vehicle Excise Duty (Welsh Forms)

asked the Minister of Transport how many motor vehicle licence application forms have been printed in Welsh; and what was the cost of these forms.

be over 50 at the date of her husband's death in order to receive a widow's pension. As I have on a number of occasions made clear, the structure of the provisions for widows' benefits is being considered in our review of social security. My hon. Friend, the Joint Parliamentary Secretary, is writing to my hon. Friend about the individual cases he has brought to our attention.

Public Building And Works

Universities And Colleges Of Advanced Technology (Research Contracts)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will give details of any contracts for research which his Department has placed with universities or colleges of advanced technology, and of the value of such contracts.

The following contracts have been placed since 1963:some £600. If the forms are widely used in substitution for English forms, there might be some consequential savings in the costs of the latter.

Roads

M56 (Centre Line Order)

asked the Minister of Transport when she proposes to confirm the Centre Line Order for the proposed M56 road from the west of Hapsford to the north of Preston Brook; and what is the cause of the delay.

Examination of the objections to the draft Scheme has taken longer than expected but my right hon. Friend hopes to reach a decision this month.

Major Projects (Glc Area)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will list the major road pro-

At time of defermentActual or Revised
SchemeTarget date for startTarget date for completionTarget date for startTarget date for completionEstimated cost at time of deferment
£
1. Holloway Road, Reconstruction of Railway Bridge.September, 1965May, 1966September, 1968September, 1969157,310
(bridge being redesigned)
2. Barking RoadLate 1965Late 1967(None: revised scheme now under consideration)266,047
3. Upper Thames Street (Bush Lane to Arthur Street).November, 1965November, 196613th December, 1966December, 1967497,715
4. Finchley RoadNovember, 1965Mid-19674th July, 1966January, 19683,370,000
5. St. John's HillLate 1965Late 196614th November, 1966November, 1967338,800
6. Feltham High StreetDecember, 1965September, 1966October, 1966September, 1967116,640
7. Heath Road, TwickenhamAugust, 1965August, 1966April, 1966March, 1967128,496
8. Cowley Road, UxbridgeLate 196515 months after startJune, 1967May, 1969291,200
9. Gunnersbury Station Railway Bridge and Subway.September, 1965August, 1967January, 1967December, 1968290,818
10. Hall Lane FlyoverNovember, 1965November, 1966June, 1966June, 1967228,935
11. Beckenham Road Railway Bridge.July, 1965July, 1966(None: Details of scheme being reconsidered)103,000

Classification

asked the Minister of Transport what percentage of the mileage of roads in Wales and England, respectively, are Class 1. Class 2, Class 3, and unclassified.

The following are the figures as at 1st April, 1965:

WalesEngland
per cent.per cent.
Class I7·08·9
Class II8·87·9
Class III28·924·2
Unclassified50·455·2
Under the provisions of the Local Government Bill, the present classes of roads classified for the purpose of grant are to be replaced on 1st April, 1967, by a new class of roads, to be called prin-

jects in the Greater London Council area which were due to start between August, 1965 and January, 1966 and which were deferred for six months, showing in each case the target starting date at the time of deferment, the target completion date at the time of deferment, the actual or revised target starting date, the revised target completion date and the estimated cost at the time of deferment.

Following is the information:cipal roads. In this connection my right hon. Friend is at present carrying out a comprehensive review of the highway system, of which she hopes to announce the outcome very shortly. My right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State, is carrying out a similar review of highways in Wales.

South Coast Trunk Road

asked the Minister of Transport what progress she has made towards the starting of the South Coast Trunk Road since the publication of the South Hampshire Study last September.

We have reviewed our proposals in the light of the report of the South Hampshire Study. Survey work preparatory to the publication of draft Orders under the Highways Act, 1959, to determine the line of route between Ports-bridge and West End is continuing.

Roundabouts (Flashing Lights)

asked the Minister of Transport what discussions she is having to install flashing lights on roundabouts on fast stretches of road to give adequate warning in bad weather conditions; and if she will make a statement.

These flashing lights would have to be switched on and off by the police and we do not think their in stallation for the sake of bad weather would be justified. Such roundabouts are normally lit at night and are preceded by a number of reflectorised warning signs. Drivers should drive within the limit of their visibility in bad weather and should be prepared for obstructions like roundabouts, stopped and slow moving vehicles.

M11 (Proposals)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will make a statement about the proposed route for the M11.

My right hon. Friend's proposals for this motorway were published on 2nd December.