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Written Answers

Volume 741: debated on Wednesday 22 February 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 22nd February, 1967

Scotland

White Fish Authority And Herring Industry Board (Merger)

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he proposes to seek to bring about a merger of the Herring Industry Board and the White Fish Authority in Scotland.

I have nothing to add to the reply given by my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) on 8th February.—[Vol. 740, c. 316.]

Drugs (Loss By Children)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many cases of children losing drugs have been reported to him.

None. Such losses would not normally be reported to my right hon. Friend.

Ayrshire Hospitals (Geriatric Beds)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has within the next five years for increasing the beds provided for geriatric treatment in Ayrshire.

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the shortage of beds for geriatric patients in Ayrshire hospitals; and what are his proposals for dealing with it.

At present there are about 500 beds in Ayrshire for geriatric patients, or about 22 beds short on the current criterion of 15 beds per thousand population over age 65. It is hoped to increase the number to about 580 in the next five years.

Rented Houses (Selling Price)

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will introduce legislation to control the selling prices of dwelling-houses originally built for letting on a rental basis, in view of the high prices at which such houses are being sold.

I am not aware that this is a widespread problem, but Clause 18 of the current Housing (Financial Provisions) (Scotland) Bill should help.

Scottish Housing Advisory Committee (Report)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will now publish the report of the Scottish Housing Advisory Committee on allocation of council houses.

My right hon. Friend has just received this report by a sub-committee of the Scottish Housing Advisory Committee and is arranging for it to be published as soon as possible.

Dumbarton Hospital (Sister's Pay)

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he proposes to take to enable the Western Regional Hospital Board to pay Sister Catherine Fraser, S.R.N., S.C.M., sister-in-charge of the maternity department of Dumbarton Hospital, Dunbartonshire, the rate of pay to which she is entitled by her long service and experience in the nursing profession

Miss Fraser is being paid at the rate to which she is entitled under the appropriate Whitley Council agreements.

A 94 (Status)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether any decision has yet been taken as to the future status of the A94 road.

I have nothing to add to the reply given to the hon. Member for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne) on 16th February.—[Vol. 741, c. 156.]

Edinburgh (Open Spaces)

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what in his policy with regard to open spaces in Edinburgh; and if he will ensure that Alnwickhill is retained as an open space of landscape value.

The formulation of a policy for open space in the City is primarily a matter for the Corporation as planning authority. Proposals put to my right hon. Friend in the Development Plan Quinquennial Review will be considered carefully on their merits and having regard to objections currently being heard as a public local inquiry. Any fresh proposal to develop the Alnwickhill site would have to be advertised and an opportunity given for the lodging of objections.

Vehicles Plying For Hire (Licensing)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will introduce legislation for the compulsory licensing of all taxi drivers, including those who operate under private hire.

Local authorities already have adequate power to license vehicles plying for hire or let for hire, and many of them have made bye-laws for this purpose.

Housing (Improvement Grants)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will seek to make improvement grants under the Housing (Scotland) Acts which are at present paid at the discretion of local authorities mandatory for them subject to a satisfactory standard of improvement being reached.

This is one of the recommendations in the Report on "Scotland's Older Houses" which my right hon. Friend is considering.

Agriculture Bill (Schemes)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what annual amount will accrue to Scottish farmers from the Agriculture Bill; and what amount they are losing from the removal of investment allowances and other relevant factors.

I estimate that when all the schemes for which the Bill provides are fully in operation, some £5·3 million annually may accrue to farmers in Scotland. The investment allowances lost might, at current rates of tax, be equivalent to about £l¼ million a year. I am not sure what other relevant factors the right hon. Gentleman has in mind.

Seamen's Strike (Report)

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the report on the effects of the seamen's strike on the islands of Scotland is to be published; and what action he is taking.

Much of the information in the Board's report relates to individuals and I do not propose to publish it. In reply to the second part of the Question, I would refer to the Answer I gave on 21st December in reply to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for the Western Isles (Mr. Malcolm MacMillan). —[Vol. 738, c. 319.]

Spinal Injuries (Treatment)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the extent of provision for spinal injuries treatment in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

Additional provision is needed. The Western and South-Eastern Regional Hospital Boards are each planning a new specialist paraplegic unit but, taking account of other urgent needs, they have not yet been able to fix starting dates for these schemes.

Primary School Pupils, Glasgow (Half-Time Education)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many children at primary schools in Glasgow are now on half-time education as from the latest intake date of 30th January.

Fee-Paying Schools

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what reviews have now been made by local authorities in Scotland of the future organisation of education authority fee-paying schools.

Renfrew Education Authority has decided to discontinue its fee-paying secondary schools as soon as its comprehensive scheme of education comes into effect. Glasgow has not yet replied to my right hon. Friend's request that it should review the future of its fee-paying and selective schools. Edinburgh, to which my right hon. Friend also wrote, submitted revised proposals for a particular area involving the retention of these schools and has been asked to reconsider them on the basis that all education authority schools in the area concerned should be reorganised on comprehensive lines.

Overseas Students (Fees)

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what arrangements he has made regarding the fees of overseas students at Scottish universities, and those undergoing courses of further education at other establishments; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answers to Questions given by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science on 21st December and 14th February.

Deaf Children's Hostel, Aberdeen

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in view of the fact that the plans for the extension of the hostel for deaf children at Polmuir Road, Aberdeen, were approved by the Scottish Education Department as far back as December, 1965, if he will state the reasons for delay in implementing those plans; and if he will now take immediate steps to have them implemented in view of the need conveyed to him by the letter of the National Deaf Children's Society, North and North-East Scotland Region.

This project has been delayed because the education authorities concerned were unable to reach an agreed financial arrangement. My Department convened a meeting, however, on 3rd February at which a financial scheme was agreed in principle, subject to ratification by the individual authorities. Working drawings for the extension are now being prepared.

College Of Zoology, Aberdeen University (Inquiry)

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the progress of the inquiry into the loss and damage, physical and financial, caused by the house collapse at the College of Zoology of Aberdeen University.

This fatal accident inquiry opened in Aberdeen Sheriff Court on 16th January and was concluded on the 20th. The jury found that the collapse of the building was due to the failure of longitudinal beam connections.

Migration

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will require the Registrar General for Scotland to institute a six-monthly report on emigration from Scotland.

There is not at present sufficient material available to justify special reports, but I have arranged for the Registrar General to publish some additional statistical information about migration in his Quarterly Returns for the second and fourth quarters of each year. This April, for instance, he will publish information on migration during the first six months of 1966, and in October similar information for the second six months.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will institute a comprehensive investigation into the causes of emigration from Scotland, with particular reference to emigration overseas.

No. The most important causes are undoubtedly economic and we are concentrating our efforts on the practical task of economic improvement.

Nurses

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the average net hourly earnings of a student nurse in her first, second and third year of training, respectively, assuming no deduction for living in hospital accommodation; and if he will state the comparable figures if she does live in.

Nurses in Scotland are paid at the same rates as in England and Wales and these were given to my hon. Friend in a reply by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health on 14th February. —[Vol. 741, c. 74–5.]

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the average hourly earnings of a fully trained nurse and of a second-year student nurse in October, 1948 and in April, 1966, respectively; and how the percentage increase over that period com-

Hourly RatesPercentage Increase
August, 1948October, 1948April, 1966(c)(c)
(a)(b)(c)Columns—Columns
(b)(a)
s.d.s.d.s.d.
Staff Nurse—General Hospital (Salary)222272231231
2nd Year Student—General Hospital (Training Allowance)111837115231
Earnings of women in the manufacturing industries191
Notes:
1. The mean point of the staff nurse scale has been used to calculate hourly rates as figures for the average earnings of trained nurses are not available.
2. Hourly rates are based on conditioned hours—a 48-hour week in 1948 and a 42-hour week in 1966.
3. Student nurses training allowances were increased on 1st September, 1948 but comparable increases in the pay of staff nurses were made after October, 1948 so that figures relating to October, 1948 may be misleading. Column (a) above has, therefore been added.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many nurses are employed in National Health Service hospitals via employment agencies; and whether this results in additional cost to the service.

In Scotland 35 nurses including midwives are so employed, most of them in a few isolated areas. The additional cost to the service is very small.

Hares (Control)

60.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a regulation to enable the killing of hares by rabbit clearance societies to qualify for grant purposes; and if he will make a statement.

I have no evidence to suggest that hares are not adequately controlled under the present arrangements.

Hunter Committee (Recommendations)

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to introduce legislation to give effect to the recommendations of the Report of the Hunter Committee.

I shall not be able to say when it may be possible to introduce legislation on this subject until I have been able to consider the outcome of the series of consultations now in progress pares with the increase in manufacturing industries.

Following is the information: between my Department and the principal bodies who would be affected by the Hunter Committee's recommendations.

Highlands And Islands Development Board

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will increase substantially financed aid to the Scottish Tourist Board, thus freeing the Highlands and Islands Development Board from the need to spend its limited resources upon purely tourist projects, and enabling it to concentrate on increasing the production and material wealth of the Highlands and Islands region and on provision of assured and fully insurable employment for the local people in manufacturing industry in their own localities.

No. I do not agree that the Highlands and Islands Development Board should be relieved of its important responsibilities towards developing one of the region's major industries, namely tourism. What the Highlands and Islands Development Board is doing for tourism is not limiting its other activities.

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultations the Highland Development Board had with him before deciding to finance research on the presence of unusual creatures in Loch Ness.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for the Western Isles (Mr. Malcolm MacMillan) on 15th February.—[Vol. 741, c. 105.]

Prefabricated Hostels (Cost Per Pupil)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the estimated capital cost of providing a place for a child in a prefabricated hostel, on which his Department is budgeting.

Overall the cost per pupil may vary from under £2,000 to £2,675. These figures include all the communal and staff accommodation, which is extensive in these hostels, all equipment and furnishings, and allow for the high building costs in remote areas.

Family Planning (Legislation)

71.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he proposes to introduce legislation to make the same provision for Scotland as is made for England in the National Health Service (Family Planning) Bill.

This is a Private Member's Bill, which is still before Parliament. Accordingly I do not think that any question of corresponding Government legislation for Scotland at present arises.

Council Employees, Rothesay (Pay Increase)

72.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has been able to arrange a meeting between his officials and representatives of Rothesay Town Council to discuss the council's decision to give their employees the pay increase due to them on 16th March.

Fishing Boats (Prices)

73.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he is taking to check the steeply rising prices for fishing boats, which is discouraging applicants and those operating the Highlands and Islands Fishery Scheme; and if he will refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes the case of a firm, whose name has been given to him by the Western Isles Crofters Union, and whose tender price for a 75-foot trawler was £49,000 in February, 1966 and £56,000 in October of the same year.

I am not aware that applicants for boats under the Scheme or those operating the Scheme are being in any way discouraged. On the contrary, I understand that in addition to the initial approvals there is a considerable waiting list of applicants. I also understand that the particular tenders mentioned by my hon. Friend do not relate to boats of the same design and specification.

Medical Consultants (Merit Awards)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will publish a table showing the number of consultants in each category of speciality in the National Health Service in Scotland at present in receipt of merit awards, together with the percentage which each figure represents of the total number of consultants in each category.

This information, as at 31st December, 1965, is contained in pages 91 and 92 of Scottish Health Service Statistics 1965 published on 2nd February, 1967.

Roads (50 Mph Speed Limit)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he will be in a position to publish the results of the application of 50 miles per hour speed limits to selected Scottish roads during holiday periods.

I expect to have an assessment of this experiment from the Road Research Laboratory in a few weeks' time.

Council House Rents (Fife)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied that Fife County Council are fulfilling their obligations in the charging of rents for their council houses at an average rent per week, after allowing for rebates and surcharges, of 14s. 6d. per week when the county town of Cupar is charging 22s. 10d. per week; what economic circumstances warrant this difference of payment; what action he will take; and if he will make a statement.

Fife County Council decided last July to increase rents by about 25 per cent., but it has subsequently twice decided to postpone the increase, in response to the Government's two White Papers on the Prices and Incomes Standstill. Under the Housing Acts each local authority must decide for itself what rents it is reasonable to charge, and I am sure that the county council will keep the matter under review in the light of changing circumstances.

Scottish Housing Advisory Committee (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to implement the short-term and long-term proposals outlined in the Cullingworth Report on Scotland's Older Houses.

I refer to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friends the Members for Glasgow, Provan (Mr. Hugh D. Brown) and Fife West (Mr. William Hamilton) on 15th February.—[Vol. 741, c. 101–2.]

Scottish National Plan

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied with the progress made in Scotland towards the targets laid out in the Scottish National Plan; and if he will make a statement.

Good progress has been made towards the employment and other objectives of the Scottish National Plan despite the difficulties of the current economic situation.

Fish Farming (Sea Survey)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that the Scottish Marine Biological Association in 1966 undertook, in conjunction with the Natural Environment Research Council, under Government authority, as an essential step towards fish farming, a sea survey for the first time to assess the primary production potential of the sea; and if he will now state the progress and results of that survey.

The Scottish Marine Biological Association is planning a new type of oceanographic recorder to extend its study over many years of the abundance and distribution of plankton in the open sea and help in assessing the primary production potential of the sea. In coastal waters the Association has also collaborated recently with my Department's scientists in research to provide part of the basic information needed for the development of fish farming. Under the auspices of the White Fish Authority the Association is also collaborating with the University of Strathclyde in a survey of possible sites for further pilot schemes of fish farming and is now participating in survey cruises for this purpose. It is too early to say what the results will be.

Life Sentences (Time Served)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the average length of time served in Scottish prisons by prisoners under life sentence who were released between 1952 and 1964 and 1964 and the end of 1966.

The average length of time served by those released between 1952 and 1964 was 7½ years. Since 1964 only one prisoner serving a life sentence has been released; he served 9 years.

Transport Facilities (Future Developments)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what account he takes of transport facilities when considering plans for future development in Scotland.

Transport facilities are given careful consideration in the planning of future developments in Scotland. I have recently strengthened the machinery of the Scottish Economic Planning Council by the appointment of a committee to deal with transport questions.

Local Authority Expenditure (Increase)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what limits Her Majesty's Government will set to the percentage average increase in overall expenditure by local authorities in 1967–68.

The Government do not set limits for the permissible expenditure of local authorities. However, rate support grant for 1967–68 is to be based on the assumption that there will be an increase of about 2 per cent. over this year, at constant prices.

Aberdeen Marine Laboratory (Phyto-Plankton)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the progress made by the Aberdeen Marine Laboratory in its investigations into the growth of marine plants in certain areas of the sea as food for fish and the effect of those investigations on the locations, habits, numbers and species of fish in those areas and as a result on the fishing industry.

The work of the Marine Laboratory on the basic production of phyto-plankton has brought to light many of the features of the average cycle of herring migration, and we hope that it will lead to an understanding of the causes of yearly fluctuations and long-term trends in abundance of herring, which have an obvious effect on the wellbeing of the fishing industry.Experiments are also in progress at Loch Ewe to improve the production of phyto-plankton by adding nutrients to the water and so to increase the growth rate of young plaice by enhancing the food supply.

General Practitioners And Prescriptions

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what forecast he has made of the likely number of principals in general practice in Scotland at the end of 1967 and of the anticipated cost of medical prescriptions in Scotland during the financial year 1967–68.

My right hon. Friend has made no manpower forecast for the end of 1967; but he hopes that the new contract will encourage more doctors to enter and remain in general practice. The estimated cost of prescriptions for the financial year 1967–68 is £16·5 million.

Prison Service (Recruits And Retirements)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many recruits joined the prison service in 1965 and 1966, respectively; and how many prison officers retired from or left the service.

In 1965, 158 recruits took up duty and 90 officers left the service. In 1966, the respective numbers were 171 and 98.

Local Authority Staffs (Recruitment)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of recruiting requirements for the local government service in Scotland during 1967.

Local authorities are responsible for recruiting their own staffs, and I do not ask them to submit estimates except for special groups such as the police.

Motherwell Technical College (Machine Tools Contract)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied that the public interest was correctly served in the awarding of the contract for supply and installation of machine tools for Motherwell Technical College without putting the contract to genuine competitive tender; and if he will make a statement.

Arrangements for the letting of contracts of this kind are for education authorities themselves to determine. I am, however, making inquiries into the instance referred to and shall consider thereafter whether any action on my part is called for as regards general procedure on contracts for equipping further education colleges.

Drug Addiction

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many cases of unlawful drug taking in Scotland were brought to his attention during the last 12 months; what were the ages of the drug takers, the towns or villages where they lived, and the extent of the addiction of each; and what steps he has taken to stamp out the traffic in, and addiction to, unlawful drug taking in Scotland.

I regret that information about the total number of persons convicted in 1966 of offences under the Drugs (Prevention of Misuse) Act, 1964, and the Dangerous Drugs Act, 1965, is not yet available. As regards the last part of the Question I am associated with the action announced by my right hon. Friend the Minister of State, Home Office on 30th January.—[Vol. 740, c. 166–74.]

Nurses And Midwives Whitley Council

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish the names of the members of the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council, indicating which of them represent the student nurses.

It would not be appropriate for me to publish the names of the representatives on the Staff Side of the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council. However, a list of the bodies represented on both sides of the council is given below. It is open to student nurses to join the appropriate staff organisation which is represented on the Council.The information is as follows:

Members
Management side
Regional Hospital Boards, England and Wales4
Regional Hospital Boards, Scotland1
Boards of Governors of Teaching Hospitals, England and Wales2
Association of Hospital Management Committees, England and Wales2
Boards of Management, Scotland1
Association of Municipal Corporations2
County Councils Association2
Inner London Education Authority1
Scottish Local Authority Associations2
Scottish Home and Health Department1
Ministry of Health4
Staff Side
Association of Hospital Matrons1
Association of Hospital and Welfare Administrators1
Association of Scottish Hospital Matrons1
Association of Supervisors of Midwives1
Confederaton of Health Service Employees4
Health Visitors' Association2
National and Local Government Officers Association2
National Union of General and Municipal Workers1
National Union of Public Employees4
Royal College of Midwives3
Royal College of Nursing8
Scottish Health Visitors' Association1

Local Government Officers (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the difference between the earnings of local government officers in Scotland and local government officers in England.

The structure and gradings of the local government service in the two countries differ so much that it is impossible to make a general comparison.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has now received on the salaries of local government officers; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Reply I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Ross and Cromarty (Mr. Alasdair Mackenzie) and other hon. Members.

Ministry Of Defence

Inter-Services Committee (Report)

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what action he will take to implement the report of the Inter-Services Committee regarding the burial of Servicemen who have died abroad.

Gas Marks (Saudi Arabia And Yemen)

75.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what requests Her Majesty's Government have received from the Governments of Saudi Arabia and the Yemen to provide gas masks from service supplies for the protection of their population; and what replies they have sent.

Armed Services (Recruitment)

77.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will undertake a review of the methods of recruitment adopted by the Army, Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force.

Recruiting methods are kept under continuous review. If my hon. Friend has any particular point in mind, I should be glad to consider it.

F111k Aircraft

78.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will now reconsider the decision to purchase from the United States of America FIIIK aircraft, in view of the fact that the purchase price, including components, will now be much greater than when the purchase was agreed.

Without in anyway accepting the premise of the question, the Answer is "No."

High Ercall Airfield, Shropshire

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the runways and control system of High Ercall Airfield, Shropshire, will be kept in public ownership when the airfield is sold.

Compassionate Leave

79.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the usual channels for investigating the grounds of an application for compassionate leave by a serving soldier.

My Department finds out as quickly as possible by telephone the condition of the person concerned; this is normally done by contacting the local police, the person's doctor or the local Soldiers', Sailors' and Airmen's Families Association representative. An immediate decision is then taken as to whether the soldier should be granted compassionate leave.

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why compassionate leave to see his dying mother was refused to Private D. Tubby, Royal Anglian Regiment.

The medical report at the time did not justify compassionate leave being granted to Private Tubby.

Polaris School And Support Establishments (Computers)

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many computers have been ordered for the Polaris submarine programme, and at what cost.

Excluding those which are part of the operational system, 22 computers have been ordered for the Polaris School and other shore support establishments at a total cost of £2·3 million.

British Indian Ocean Territory (Staging Posts)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what is the estimated cost of construction of the staging posts at Aldabra and Diego Garcia and the annual cost of maintaining staging posts at Gan, Masirah and Cocos:(2) if the Government intend to proceed with the construction of staging posts at Aldabra, Diego Garcia, and elsewhere, and to maintain the staging posts at Gan, Masirah and Cocos.

As announced in the Statement on the Defence Estimates, we are examining the possibility of establishing a staging airfield in the British Indian Ocean Territory but no decisions have yet been taken. We intend to maintain staging posts at Gan and Masirah for the foreseeable future. The annual cost of these staging posts is £1·8 million and £0·5 million respectively. There is no Royal Air staging post at Cocos.

Polaris Programme (Capital Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what will be the total expenditure on the Polaris submarine fleet and base and the missile storage depot up to 1st March, 1968 and all building and constructional operations connected with the base up to the end of February, 1968.

The estimated capital expenditure on the Polaris programme up to 1st March, 1968, is £240 million. This figure includes the building costs of the Clyde Submarine Base, which my right hon. Friend the Minister of Public Building and Works estimates will be £18 million by that date.

Roads

A435 (Dualling)

82.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will approve the building of a new intersection at Bransons Cross, B4101 with A435, in advance of the dualling of the A435 between Wythall and Gorcott Hill.

It has not been found possible to bring forward this part of the scheme for dualling A435. However, we have suggested to the Worcestershire County Council some work which might be carried out to ensure adequate visibility for traffic crossing the A435 at Bransons Cross.

M1 (Directional Signs)

84.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will now include Wellingborough in directional signs on the M1 motorway, in view of the continued industrial expansion of Wellingborough.

No. Drivers should have no difficulty in reaching Welling-borough, particularly if they take advantage of the junction number which is now shown on the signs.

Severn Bridge (Vehicle Breakdowns)

85.

asked the Minister of Transport how many broken-down private cars, goods vehicles and motor cycles have been removed from the Severn Bridge; and what charges have been recovered for this service.

Between 8th September, 1966 and 4th February, 1967, 78 private cars, 27 goods vehicles, 1 coach and 2 motor cycles were removed. Charges totalling £562 are being recovered.

Al2 (Aldborough Road-Eastern Avenue Junction)

asked the Minister of Transport (1) if she will arrange for a representative of her Department to visit the junctions of Eastern Avenue with Aldborough Road, North, and Aldborough Road, South, Ilford, in company with members of the Redbridge Borough Council representing the Aldborough ward and the Seven Kings ward, to discuss the traffic arrangements for that junction;(2) what reply she has sent to the requests, sent to her by the hon. Member for Ilford, North, from 975 residents in the area concerned, for traffic signals at the Eastern Avenue-Aldborough Road junction, Ilford.

At the invitation of the Borough Engineer of Redbridge, Ministry Engineers attended a meeting on Friday, 17th February, to discuss with officers of the council and the police traffic arrangements at the Aldborough Road junction on the Eastern Avenue, Trunk Road Al2.It was agreed that certain measures should be carried out on an experimental basis to improve conditions at the junction. I have written to the hon. Member to explain these measures.In view of these proposals, we consider that a further site meeting is not now necessary.

Eastern Avenue (Traffic)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will state the amount of traffic along Eastern Avenue between the Green Gate and the Barley Lane roundabout and also the amount of traffic aproaching Eastern Avenue from all the roads leading into it along the same stretch between the hours of 6.30 and 9.30 a.m. and between the hours of 4.30 and 6.30 p.m. on weekdays excluding Saturdays, between Tuesday 7th and Tuesday, 21st February, inclusive.

The most recent traffic census, in August, 1965, showed that this section of Eastern Avenue carried just over 50,000 vehicles per day. Detailed information on side road volumes is not available. We are, however, investigating traffic conditions at the Aldborough Road junction and I will write to the hon. Member shortly.

A1 (Disused Railway Track)

asked the Minister of Transport what study she has made of the possibility of adapting the bed of the disused railway track of the line from Wetherby to Harrogate as a relief road connecting Harrogate to the A1 trunk road at Wetherby.

None. But I understand that the West Riding County Council, the highway authority in this area, is proposing to use the disused track between Spofforth and Wetherby for a new road. This proposal has been included in the Wetherby Town Map Review which the County Council, as planning authority, has submitted for the approval of my right bon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government.

Roundabouts (Right Of Way)

asked the Minister of Transport what regulations she has made concerning the right of way at roundabouts; what signs are standardised for indicating the application of those regulations; and whether she will take steps to make the relevant information more widely known among the driving public and driving instructors.

The only rule at roundabouts is the general rule which I announced in the Answer given to the hon. Member for Leominster (Sir Clive Bossom) on 2nd November. This is an advisory rule and is not imposed by regulations. Entrances to roundabouts are now being marked with a single broken white line and this will help to remind drivers entering a roundabout to give way to vehicles already in it. When all lines have been laid more publicity will be given to the give way rule. It has already been widely publicised in the general press, in specialised magazines circulating to drivers and on radio and television. It is also planned to feature it in "The New Traffic Signs" booklet, in a television filmlet and in the mobile signs exhibition van.—[Vol. 735, c. 113–4.]

Lancashire-Yorkshire Motorway

asked the Minister of Transport what progress is being made on the Lancashire-Yorkshire motorway as it affects the village of Outlane in Huddersfield; and if she will make a statement.

We hope to publish draft proposals for alterations to existing highways, rights of way and private means of access affected by this section of the motorway, together with associated junction proposals, later this year.

New Hey Road, Huddersfield (Widening)

asked the Minister of Transport what effect the widening of New Hey Road, Huddersfield, to accommodate the feeder road to the proposed new strech of the M62, will have on the houses and shops in the area concerned.

Full details of properties affected, mainly on the north side of the existing road, will be announced when the Huddersfield County Borough Council, who are the highway authority, publish their compulsory purchase order in about two months' time.

Rolling Road Programme (Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Transport when she will be able to state the total estimated expenditure on the rolling road programme for the five years ending 1970–71 and the year 1971–72.

Estimates of future road programme expenditure will be announced as soon as possible.

M4 (Lighting Columns)

asked the Minister of Transport why the proposed steel crash barriers for the new light columns on the central reservation of the M4 are not being erected simultaneously with the columns; and, in view of the potential danger to motorists of erecting these columns without adequate crash barrier protection, what warning notices will be provided during the interim period.

The installation of lighting columns necessitated design changes to the standard type of crash barrier. We decided that it was safer to provide lighting during part of the winter from temporarily unprotected columns than to delay the whole project while the modified design was prepared and the installation contract let. Work on providing the barriers should start in the spring. Meanwhile we see no need for notices warning drivers of the presence of these very conspicuous columns.

A3071 (Speed Limit)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will take measures to enforce a speed limit on the A3071 where it passes through the village of Newbridge, near Penzance, Cornwall; and if she will also prohibit traffic from overtaking in the village by having double white lines painted down the centre of the road.

There is no speed limit on this road, and we have not received an application for my right hon. Friend's consent to one. I understand, however, that the County Council intends to review the position.Double white lines are not provided to prevent overtaking, and they would not be appropriate here.

Railways

Route Mileage

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the total route mileage of British Railways, showing separately the total passenger route mileage and the total freight route mileage on 1st January each year from 1949.

Following are the figures as at 31st December each year. The separate figures requested are available only from 1954:

Year (31st Dec.)Passenger Route MileageFreight Only Route MileageTotal Route Mileage
1948N.A.N.A.19,631
1949N.A.N.A.19,598
1950N.A.N.A.19,573
1951N.A.N.A.19,471
1952N.A.N.A.19,276
1953N.A.N.A.19,222
195415,0994,05119,150
195514,8014,26019,061
195614,6724,35319,025
195714,6224,34318,965
195814,4544,39418,848
195914,0634,50218,565
196013,8654,50418,369
196113,6974,51718,214
196212,9154,55617,471
196312,6314,35116,982
196411,6704,32115,991
196510,8844,03614,920
1966*10,1653,55613,721
N.A.—not available.
* Provisional.

Staff (Development Areas)

86.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the declared policy of Her Majesty's Government to promote industry and employment in the development areas by moving Government Departments where appropriate, she will give a general direction to British Railways to maintain their existing staff and establishment in such areas.

No. It is for the Railways Board to decide as a matter of management where their staff should be.

Ports

Tilbury Docks (Access)

83.

asked the Minister of Transport whether the main scheme to give improved access to Tilbury Docks will be approved and completed by 1970.

Our plans provide for this, but they are subject to statutory rights of objection.

Transport

Animal Carrying Vehicles (Duty)

asked the Minister of Transport what category of road fund licence is applicable to vehicles carrying dogs, or other small domestic animals, when such carriage is in the course of business of licensed boarding kennels; and to what extent the law is evaded by the use of private cars for this purpose.

A vehicle used for these purposes, and constructed or adapted for the carriage of goods or burden, would be subject to the rate of duty specified for goods vehicles in Schedule 4 to the Vehicles (Excise) Act 1962.A private car is not regarded as so constructed or adapted, and is duitable under Scedule 5 to the Act.

Traffic Examiners (Pay)

asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of the discontent among traffic examiners due to the delay in reviewing their salary scales, she will now take steps to expedite this matter.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Harborough (Mr. Farr) on 16th February.—[Vol. 741, c. 164.]

Board Of Trade

Monofilaments (Exports To Portugal)

88.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that the import duty on monofilaments into Portugal has recently been raised so as to prohibit their export from this country; and if he will make representations to the Portuguese authorities.

There has been no recent increase in import duty on monofilaments into Portugal; but if my hon. Friend would like to give me the information on which his Question is based I will look into it.

Coastal Shipping (Nus Representations)

87.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what representations he has received from the National Union of Seamen about the decline in coastal shipping; and what proposal he has for reviving it.

The National Union of Seamen have recently discussed this issue at the Board of Trade and have also made representations to my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport. The level of activity of coastal shipping depends mainly on the cargo offering, but the Union's views are to be the subject of a further meeting.

Export Credits Guarantee Department

89.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what consideration the Export Credits Guarantee Department has given to the insurance of capital projects undertaken by overseas subsidiary companies of British principals purchasing British-manufactured capital equipment, and using British technologies and skills against normal political risks as defined by the World Bank in conjunction with the International Chamber of Commerce.

E.C.G.D. cover is available for sales by or to overseas subsidiary companies effectively controlled by British principals.

90.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he proposes to take to encourage the extension of long-term loans under Section 2 of the Export Credits Guarantee Department Act with a view to promoting the sales of British plant and capital goods, and particularly those goods supplied by the chemical plant and steel plant manufacturers who are faced with contracting order books.

Commercial long-term loans for sales of British plant and capital goods are encouraged under E.C.G.D.'s Financial Guarantee scheme which was introduced specifically for the purpose described by the hon. Member.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the value of exports covered by the Export Credits Guarantee Department in each of the years ending 31st January, 1964, 31st January, 1965, 31st January, 1966; and what percentage of total exports this amounted to in each year.

The values were:

£m.Percentage of British Exports
Year ending 31st January, 19641,06225
Year ending 31st January, 19651,14626
Year ending 31st January, 19661,36528

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the total value of guarantees outstanding under the Export Credits Guarantee Department cover at 31st January, 1966, and under Section 1, Section 2, and Section 3, respectively; and what was the increase in guarantee cover in total and under each section during the year ended 31st January, 1966.

Figures are not readily available for 31st January, 1966. The total liabilities under Section 1 and Section 2 at 31st December, 1965 were as follows. Increases over the corresponding figures at 31st December, 1964 are shown in brackets.

£ million
Section 11,190·7(155·6)
Section 2—
Under guarantees353·8(51·1)
Under economic assistance agreements281·4(35·3)
Totals1,825·9(242·0)
Section 3 provides for financing business guaranteed under Section 1 or Section 2 or economic assistance agreements made under Section 2. The total outstanding at 31st December, 1965 was £281·4 million, all related, as shown above, to economic assistance agreements.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps the Export Credits Guarantee Department is now taking to make known to British exporters and manufacturers and their trade associations those parts of the world where there is limited Export Credits Guarantee Department cover for medium- and long-term loans because of excessive political and economic risks, and where there is a high guarantee premium; and whether he will publish this information in the next report of the Export Credits Guarantee Department.

E.C.G.D. has a mailing list of about 900 trade associations, which are kept informed of major changes in the availability and terms of cover. Credit insurance brokers are kept similarly informed. All holders of Comprehensive Guarantees receive quarterly a WorldWide Schedule showing the premium rates and conditions of cover for each market. Exporters are encouraged to approach E.C.G.D. at an early stage in their negotiations; they can get an indication of the terms on which cover is likely to be available for particular business, including the approximate premium, on request—by telephone, if necessary.I do not consider that publication of this information is necessary or desirable.

asked the President of the Board of Trade to what extent it is the policy of the Export Credits Guarantee Department to favour proposals for insurance guarantee to cover those projects which involve the sale of plant and equipment tied to British technology and know-how to overseas subsidiary companies of British principals, as against foreign principals, in those areas where only limited Export Credits Guarantee Department cover is available.

This situation has not arisen. If it did, the continuing advantages of one transaction over another would be taken into account.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what discussions he is having with members of the Berne Union to prove that long-term loans, in terms of period of repayment, rate of interest, and rate for guarantee cover made available to British capital plant manufacturers, are no less advantageous than those available to their foreign com- petitors; and what are the maximum terms now offered by the Export Credits Guarantee Department.

The Export Credits Guarantee Department has a constant exchange of information with other members of the Berne Union on credit terms currently being offered. I am satisfied that the Financial Guarantee Scheme, under which the Department gives guarantees to encourage long-term loans to overseas buyers of British capital plant, provides terms no less advantageous than those available to foreign competitors in respect of periods of repayment, rate of interest and rate of premium. The maximum terms guaranteed by E.C.G.D. under the Financial Guarantee Scheme are now 15 years from contract.

European Economic Community

91.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in conjunction with the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress, he will arrange for his Department to call a conference at which he could explain to what extent Great Britain's entry into the Common Market will affect our agricultural and horticultural industries, and our balance of payment problems.

No; arrangements for consultation with industry already exist through the First Secretary's Industrial Consultative Committee on the Approach to Europe on which the C.B.I. and T.U.C. are represented.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will publish in HANSARD a table of figures giving his estimate of the extent to which the United Kingdom balance of payments and trade will be adversely affected if Great Britain enters the Common Market on the basis of accepting the Market's present agricultural and free flow of capital policies; and how this would be changed if the United Kingdom accepted either of these policies.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the hon. Members for Glasgow, Govan (Mr. Rankin) and for Barons Court (Mr. Richard) yesterday, 21st February.—[Vol. 741, c. 254–5.]

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will publish as a White Paper his detailed estimate of the financial and other consequences of Great Britain entering the Common Market.

I have nothing to add to the estimates made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 10th November.—[Vol. 735, c. 1530–31.]

Manufacturing Industry Overseas (Investment)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he proposes to take to speed up the flow of information about capital investment by British manufacturing industry overseas; when he expects to have a provisional total figure for 1966; and when he will have the breakdown for 1965.

Quarterly estimates of total direct investment based on the collection of a few key figures from a sample of firms are published at the end of the following quarter.On the more detailed annual inquiry the use of computer processing is to be extended, and the volume of work reduced by exempting firms whose over-

UNITED KINGDOM PRIVATE DIRECT INVESTMENT OVERSEAS, FOR INDUSTRIES OTHER THAN OIL
(£ million)
Profits of subsidiaries†
Book value of net assets at year—end *DividendsUnremitted earningsBranch Profits†Interest receivedRoyalties, etc. received from related overseas concerns
19633,850971181105
19644,112106149113720
19651161611197
* Excluding banking and insurance.
†Net of overseas tax.
‡Provisional.
I regret that the proportion of branch profits, interest and dividends taken in United Kingdom taxation for these years is not available.

Social Clubs (Grants)

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many applications have been made in each development area for grants for social clubs; and how many, and to what total amount, have been granted in each such area.

Separate figures in respect of assistance to social clubs under the Local Employment Acts are not readily avail- seas investments are small and who in aggregate contribute very little to the total figures. The timing of the detailed figures must however continue to depend on how soon firms are able to complete their returns, which may relate to an accounting year other than the calendar year, and which may have to await the receipt of completed accounts from overseas.A provisional estimate of total direct investment in 1966 will be published in the March issue of Economic Trends, and detailed figures for 1965, which show manufacturing industry separately, in the Board of Trade Journal in about three months' time.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the book value of net assets representing investment by manufacturing industry overseas as at 31st December, 1966, and 31st December, 1965, or on the last two year ends at which the information is known; what is the equivalent return by way of interest, dividend and royalty; and what proportion of this is taken in United Kingdom taxation.

The information available is as follows:able, and to compile them would entail a disproportionate amount of time and expenditure.

Consumer Protection

asked the President of the Board of Trade when he will introduce the Protection of Consumers (Trade Descriptions) Bill.

I have nothing to add to what I said in reply to the hon. Member on 8th December.—[Vol. 737, c. 1561–62.]

Shareholders (Political Contributions)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will introduce legislation to enable shareholders to contract out of contributions to political causes paid by their company.

No. I am of course legislating in the Companies Bill to ensure that information about major political contributions is published.

Periodicals And Colour Magazines (Imports And Exports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) what was the total volume of periodicals and colour magazines imported into this country in each of the years from 1963 to 1966;(2) what was the total volume of periodicals and colour magazines exported from this country in each of the years from 1963 to 1966.

These items are not separately distinguished in the trade statistics; they are included under the heading "Newspapers, journals and periodicals, whether or not illustrated". For this heading import and export figures for 1963 are given in the Annual Statement of the trade of the United Kingdom Volumes 2 (page 291) and 3 (page 437) and for 1964 to 1966 on pages 109 and 263 of the Overseas Trade Accounts for December, 1965, and December, 1966.

Plant And Machinery Grants, Blaydon (Applications)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will state for the year ended 31st December, 1966 the number of applications for plant and machinery grants from firms in the Blaydon area, the number approved, the estimated amount and employment resulting from them, the number of applications rejected and the number under consideration.

No applications were received between 1st January and 31st March, 1966 (the latest date for acceptance of applications for plant and machinery grants which have been replaced by investment grants). Offers to a total value of £17,255 were made during 1966 in respect of 10 applications received in earlier years: the resulting employment from the associated schemes was estimated by the applicants at 949. No applications were rejected but one application is still being considered.

Industrial Development (Blaydon)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for industrial development in the Blaydon area to improve the employment position, in view of the approaching completion of the new Scotswood Bridge.

The availability of good sites is essential for the introduction of new industry into an area and I am glad to know that Blaydon Urban District Council are actively considering development of a site. My right hon. Friend is prepared to use his powers under the Local Employment Acts to the full to assist suitable projects which would provide additional employment in the area.

Dawley Urban District Council

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will declare the area of the Dawley Urban District Council to be a development area.

Federation Of Sussex Industries (Assistance)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what Government assistance was given in each of the years 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967 for promotional assistance to the Federation of Sussex Industries.

The Board of Trade gives assistance to groups of British firms exhibiting collectively at overseas trade fairs, provided these groups are sponsored by appropriate non-profit-making organisations. The Federation of Sussex Industries has sponsored such groups at the Vienna International Autumn Trade Fair in 1964, at the Franco-British Fair in Dieppe, and the Copenhagen Trade Fair in 1965, and will be sponsoring displays at the Swedish Trade Fair in Gothenburg and the Franco-British Trade Fair in Dieppe in 1967. In 1963 and 1966 the Federation was not involved in events overseas eligible for Board of Trade assistance.

London Airport (Delayed Flights)

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many aircraft have been late taking off over the last year due to delays in processing boarding passengers at London Airport.

Scottish-Russian Trade

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state his plans to increase and extend Scottish trade with Russia as a result of the visit of Mr. Kosygin, indicating the aspects of Scottish-Russian trade which he estimates will benefit most.

I propose to discuss with the Soviet Minister of Foreign Trade what further steps can be taken in the light of Mr. Kosygin's visit to increase trade between the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union and to achieve a better balance.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

European Economic Community

92.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, in view of the official estimate given by those connected with the European Economic Community that if Great Britain joins the Community meat prices in this country will rise by 25 per cent. and food grains used for rearing livestock by 40 per cent., what inquiries he has now made into the basis on which such figures are calculated; and if he will make a statement.

Annual Reviews

93.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is his policy that at annual price reviews the percentage of recoupment of increased costs to the industry shall not fall below the figure of 72 per cent. at the last review.

No. Changes in costs are only one of the factors that have to be taken into account at Annual Reviews.

Warfarin-Resistant Rats (Shropshire)

94.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the spread of Warfarin-resistant rats in Shropshire.

No Warfarin resistance in rats has been detected in Shropshire outside the area described in the reply given by my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the hon. Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson) on 27th May, 1966.—[Vol. 729, c. 167.]

Grey Seals Protection Act, 1932

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware that the Grey Seals Protection Act, 1932, is defective in its provisions and its penalties and fails to provide adequate protection to the grey seal, and that the common seal is totally unprotected; in view of the danger of extermination of both types of seal, what proposals he has to remedy this situation; and whether he will make a statement.

The grey seal is continuing to increase in numbers under the protection provided by the Grey Seals Protection Act, 1932, which is proving effective for its purpose, and there is no evidence that the common seal is declining in numbers, even though it is unprotected.Neither species is in danger of extermination and no new measures are under consideration by the Departments concerned.

Small Farms (Production Grants)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of production grants, at the last convenient date, was paid to farmers occupying farms of under 50 acres in size, between 50–150 acres in size, and over 150 acres in size, respectively.

I regret that this information is not available, and a special analysis to provide it would be unduly costly.

Tenant Farmers (Displacement Compensation)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will seek to establish a definite code of compensation for tenant farmers dispossessed under the New Towns Act based on market value rentals or farm profits plus payments for improvements and tenants' fixtures.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Buckingham (Mr. Maxwell) yesterday. As regards tenants' improvements, it is not proposed to alter the existing entitlement to compensation.—[Vol. 741, c. 257–8.]

Local Government

Camping And Caravan Sites (Exchequer Grants)

95.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what assistance is being given to local authorities to provide more camping sites in London and the provinces for home holidaymakers as well as for overseas visitors.

There are no specific Exchequer grants for this purpose. The Government's proposals for more camping and caravan sites for holiday makers are set out in paragraph 50 of the White Paper "Leisure in the Countryside".

Planning Appeals

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) what was the number of planning appeals made in the counties of Surrey, Hampshire, Dorset, Cornwall, Wiltshire, and Devonshire, respectively, in the last complete year for which figures are available; and what on average was the cost of each appeal to the local authority concerned;(2) how many planning appeals there were, and what percentage of appeals was successful, in respect of Surrey, Hampshire, Dorset, Cornwall, Wiltshire, and Devonshire, respectively, and nationally, in the last complete year for which figures are available.

Following is the information—except on costs, which is not available—for the authorities concerneo in 1966.

Number of appeals madeNumber of appeals decidedPercentage of decided appeals successful
Administrative County of:
Surrey54942530
Hampshire60035918
Dorset15614525½
Cornwall19714714½
Wiltshire14611411½
Devonshire43432121
England and Wales11,7259,03522

Planning Staffs

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the total cost per head of local town and country planning staffs in the counties of Surrey, Hampshire, Dorset, Cornwall, Wiltshire, and Devonshire, respectively, and nationally.

The local authorities are not responsible to my right hon. Friend for the staff they employ to carry out their statutory functions. The Department, therefore, has no record of the numbers of staff employed on this work.

Town And Country Planning (Administrative Costs)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the total annual cost, national as well as local, of town and country planning.

I presume that the hon. Member is referring to administrative costs.In 1964–65, the last year for which figures are available, the expenditure of English local authorities on town and country planning (excluding debt charges) totalled £14·2 million.I estimate that during 1966–67 the cost of the Ministry's planning work in salaries and overheads, including expenditure on planning surveys, will be about £3·5 million.

Home Department

Widgery Committee (Recommendation)

96.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he is taking to implement the recommendation of the Widgery Committee on Legal Aid in criminal cases that an accused person liable to imprisonment if found guilty should not be denied legal aid because he has pleaded guilty.

The Committee considered that where there was a real risk of a sentence of imprisonment being passed, there was a strong prima facie case for the grant of legal aid, although they also considered that legal aid should rarely be necessary for the purpose of a plea in mitigation in summary cases. As I explained during the Second Reading of the Criminal Justice Bill, Government initiative on these and other proposals which can he implemented without legislation will be co-ordinated with implementation of the Committee's recommendations as a whole, including those for which provision is made in the Bill.

Detention Centres, North West

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the inadequacy of detention centre places in the North-West, when he proposes to provide an additional detention centre for the North-West; and if he will make a statement.

The committal area of Whatton Senior Dentention Centre (opened last October) was planned so as to give some relief to the North West: I hope to give further relief when the second unit at Whatton is opened later this year. Possible sites in Lancashire for an additional centre (already included in the prison building programme) are being evaluated.

Associated Status Territories (Gifts)

asked the Prime Minister what proposals he has for the presentation of gifts by the Government and by the House to mark the attainment of associated status by St. Christopher-Nevis- Anguilla, Antigua, Dominica, St. Lucia and Grenada, between 27th February and 3rd March.

The whole House will, I feel sure, wish to send warm congratulations to St. Chistopher-Nevis-Anguilla, Antigua, Dominica, St. Lucia and Grenada on their achievement of associated status, with its best wishes for their future happiness and prosperity. Her Majesty's Government will propose that the House should offer to the Legislatures of these associated States a gift of a collection of constitutional and parliamentary reference books. Her Majesty's Government for their part will present silver table centre pieces to commemorate the occasion.

Economic Affairs

Press Association Ltd And Exchange Telegraph Co Ltd (Employees' Remuneration)

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will not make an Order under Section 29 of the Prices and Incomes Act concerning remuneration paid to the Society of Graphical and Allied Trades members employed by the Press Association Limited, Reuters Limited and Exchange Telegraph Company Limited.

My right hon. Friend has today made an Order under Section 29 of the Prices and Incomes Act restricting the remuneration of certain employees of the Press Association Limited and the Exchange Telegraph Company Limited to what they were receiving before 20th July, 1966. He has not made an Order in respect of Reuters Limited, because that company, unlike the others, has not been paying an increase in breach of the standstill.

China (Unesco)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the Government will now propose that the People's Republic of China should be admitted to membership of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation.

No. While we believe that the People's Republic of China should be seated in the United Nations and its Specialised Agencies, a decision of this sort should first be taken in the General Assembly, as my hon. Friend, the then Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, said in her reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Heeley (Mr. Hooley) on 7th November, 1966.—[Vol. 735, c. 206.]

United Nations Specialised Agencies (Membership)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is the Government's policy towards the principle of universality in the membership of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation and other Specialised Agencies of the United Nations; and, in particular, what is the policy towards membership of these organisations for all States with which Great Britain maintains diplomatic relations.

Her Majesty's Government support the principle of universality of membership by States of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation and the other United Nations Specialised Agencies, subject to the membership provisions of the Agencies' constitutions, whether or not such States are in diplomatic relations with us. I have dealt with the particular case of China in my reply to a separate Question by my hon. Friend.

Ministry Of Health

Farmers' Lung

asked the Minister of Health what research is being continued under his Department or through grants from his Department, currently, into the incidence, cause and prevention of farmers' lung.

My Department has made a grant to the Public Health Laboratory Service Board of up to £8,510 over a period of three years to finance laboratory investigation into Farmers' Lung.

The Welsh Hospital Board are supporting research at Sully Hospital at an estimated cost of £5,365 over seven years into the pathogenesis of Farmers' Lung.

asked the Minister of Health how many self-employed people in England and Wales, respectively, are currently suffering from farmers' lung.

Prescriptions (Ingredient Cost)

asked the Minister of Health what was the value of medicines issued on prescription under the National Health Service in each of the last five years.

The information is as follows:Ingredient cost of prescriptions dispensed by chemists under the National Health Service:

England and WalesScotland
£ million£ million
196259·06·3
196364·66·9
196471·77·6
196586·39·4
1966 (estimated)95·810·5

Hospitals

Knighton Hospital, Radnorshire (Closure)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will reverse his decision to close Knighton Hospital, Radnorshire.

No. I am writing to the hon. Member setting out the reasons for my decision.

Ministry Of Labour

Mineworkers, Wales And Scotland

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the number of mineworkers who have been retrained in Government training centres during the last 12 months in Wales and Scotland, respectively.

In Wales 95 workers whose last employment was in coalmining entered training during 1966 and 43 completed training during the year. The corresponding figures for Scotland are 141 and 98.

asked the Minister of Labour, (1) how many mineworkers made redundant by closures during the last 12 months in Wales and Scotland, respectively, have left those two countries;(2) how many miners made redundant by closures during the last 12 months in Wales and Scotland, respectively, are still unemployed.

On 12th December, 1966, 597 workers discharged as a result of colliery closures were registered as unemployed in Wales, and 139 in Scotland. I regret that the other information asked for is not available.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish the numbers of men unemployed in the coal mining industry in each of the years 1946 to 1966 in Wales and Scotland, respectively, and express them as percentages of the total number of male industrial workers in those two countries.

Following is the information:

NUMBERS OF MEN REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED IN DECEMBER EACH YEAR AT EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES IN WALES, AND SCOTLAND, WHOSE LAST EMPLOYMENT WAS IN THE COAL MINING INDUSTRY; AND PERCENTAGES THAT THEY FORMED OF ALL MALE EMPLOYEES (EMPLOYED AND UNEMPLOYED) IN THESE COUNTRIES
WalesScotland
NumbersPer cent.NumbersPer cent.
19466,2151·142,0140·18
19474,7410·841,3070·11
19484,3140·631,3570·10
19494,0330·601,8090·13
19502,7280·391,1300·08
15511,6790·247000·05
19521,4390·216500·05
19539530·146330·05
19547270·115650·04
19555740·083690·03
19565920·093330·02
19576820·104830·03
19589900·147580·05
19591,2890·191,2740·09
19607080·108750·06
19616500·097090·05
19629720·142,8250·20
19638030·122,2300·16
19646890·101,4120·10
19651,0190·159600·07
19661,5250·229870·07

Overseas Development

Aid And Development Programmes

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what are the Government's plans for co-ordinating its overseas aid and development programmes, including the training of technical assistance personnel, with those of other member States of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation and other Specialised Agencies of the United Nations and with the Specialised Agencies themselves.

Such co-ordination is carried out by consultations within the recipient countries between Her Majesty's Missions, the Missions of other donor countries, the United Nations Resident Representative and the representatives of the Specialised Agencies. In addition for a number of developing countries, co-ordination of capital aid programmes is carried out in the I.B.R.D. Consortia and Consultative Groups.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what plans he has for regular direct consultations with the Director General of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation and the heads of other Specialised Agencies of the United Nations concerning British overseas development programmes.

My colleagues and I welcome all opportunities of discussing aid programmes and problems with the Executive Heads of the Specialised Agencies. We have no plans for regular consultations with them concerning British aid programmes in particular, but the frequent contacts between British Permanent Delegates and officials and the Secretariats of the Specialised Agencies contribute to this end.

United Nations Specialised Agencies

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what machinery exists for regulation consultation between his Department and other Departments concerned in order to formulate British policy towards the United Nations Edu- cational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation and other Specialised Agencies of the United Nations.

Although the Ministry has a close interest in the development activities of all the Specialised Agencies, its direct responsibility towards them is limited to U.N.E.S.C.O. and F.A.O.Regular organisation on broad policy matters takes place through the normal governmental committee structure. In addition there is close and continuing inter-Departmental consultation on all matters in which the activities of a Specialised Agency are of concern to more than one Ministry.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what studies he has made of the new programme of cooperation between the Food and Agriculture Organisation and the World Bank; and what proposals he will make for similar co-operation between other specialised agencies of the United Nations.

This programme of cooperation began in 1964 and Her Majesty's Government have kept fully in touch with its operations throughout. Other forms of co-operative arrangements already exist between other Specialised Agencies. It is Her Majesty's Government's policy to encourage this cooperation wherever appropriate.

Unesco

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether he will now provide adequate backing for the United Kingdom delegation to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation by increasing the number of its members permanently posted at the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation headquarters from one to at least three.

The delegation already has adequate backing for its tasks. Although the deputy permanent delegate is the only member continuously resident in Paris, the permanent delegate, who is also head of the U.N.E.S.C.O. Department of the Ministry, spends up to half of his time in Paris and is there whenever necessary; this combination of functions has proved advantageous. The delegation is further strengthened in numbers for the twice yearly meetings of the Executive Board as well as for the biennial General Conferences.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what aspects of British life affected by, and relevant to, the work of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation, such as trades unions, political parties, churches and media of mass communication, are represented on the United Kingdom National Commission for the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation.

When the National Commission was reconstituted last year it was limited, in the interests of effectiveness, to a body of just over 20 people chosen as individuals for their personal ability, through experience and knowledge, to advise me on the work of U.N.E.S.C.O. A list of the members was provided in the reply given on the 2nd August, 1966, to my hon. Friend the Member for Meriden (Mr. Rowland). The Commission is assisted by four advisory committees, a public relations committee and a development committee, and in total more than 60 individuals are directly associated with its work. Between them they cover the aspects of British life affected by and relevant to the work of U.N.E.S.C.O., including those aspects specifically mentioned by my hon. Friend. —[Vol. 733, c. 58–9.]

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what arrangements exist to ensure that all members of the United Kingdom National Commission for the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation are fully briefed on the history, structure, methods and objectives of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cutural Organisation and have the opportunity to formulate comments and suggestions on the entire range of British policy towards the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation and on the Organisation's draft programmes and budgets.

Members of the National Commission are provided with the basic documents essential for an understanding of the history, structure, methods and objectives of U.N.E.S.C.O., and receive regularly the monthly U.N.E.S.C.O. Chronicle. Also, to help them advise on British policy towards the Organisation, they are given the detailed draft programme and budget for each biennium and other relevant major documents prepared for General Conferences, as well as supplementary papers prepared by the secretariat of the National Commission. The National Commission meets two or three times a year—and its specialised advisory committees rather more frequently—to keep policy under review and to help brief the United Kingdom delegation to the General Conference. It is already beginning to give attention to U.N.E.S.C.O.'s possible programme for the biennium 1969–70 and as part of this process the chairmen of the advisory committees will be paying short visits to the headquarters of the Organisation in the course of the next few months.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many members of the United Kingdom National Commission for the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation have been included in each United Kingdom delegation to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation since 1959; and what are the plans in this respect for the future.

General Conferences of U.N.E.S.C.O. are held biennially. Members of the National Commission have been included in United Kingdom delegations to recent Conferences as follows:

11th Session, 19603
12th Session, 19625
13th Session, 19645
14th Session, 19666
I expect that, according to the nature of the business on each occasion, our delegations to future General Conferences will include a similar number of members of the National Commission.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what specific steps have been taken by his Department to make the activities and publications of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation better known in Great Britain.

A Public Relations Committee was created last year when the United Kingdom National Commission for U.N.E.S.C.O. was reconstituted. This Committee considers how the aims and activities of U.N.E.S.C.O. can be more effectively publicised in Britain and how appropriate non-governmental organisations can be informed and involved in the work of the Organisation and of the National Commission. A meeting of representatives of these organisations was held at Lancaster House last September, and a series of similiar but more specialised meetings is currently being held to acquaint voluntary bodies with the outcome of the recent General Conference of U.N.E.S.C.O.Celebrations were held in London last October to mark the 20th Anniversary of U.N.E.S.C.O. and on that occasion my Department published and distributed to universities, technical higher and adult educational institutions, secondary schools, public libraries and other interested organisations in the United Kingdom a 32 page illustrated booklet entitled "Britain and U.N.E.S.C.O." which had been prepared by the Central Office of Information. The Secretariat of the National Commission now provides speakers for schools and voluntary bodies wishing to arrange talks on U.N.E.S.C.O.'s work.The Information Department of my Ministry is responsible for press publicity in connection with activities of the National Commission, and also distributes to the British Press, radio and television, material emanating from U.N.E.S.C.O.'s own Press Division, Her Majesty's Stationery Office is the official agency in this country for U.N.E.S.C.O. publications and books, and arranges to give them all necessary publicity. The holding of seminars in this country in conjunction with U.N.E.S.C.O. has provided some additional opportunity for making the work of the Organisation better known.Much valuable work in connection with schools is done by the Council for Education in World Citizenship.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what studies he has made of staff efficiency, conditions of service and morale in the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation; and what measures he is prepared to propose to secure any necessary improvement.

I have not asked our representatives to U.N.E.S.C.O. to make special studies of staff efficiency, conditions of service or morale; but the close interest taken in these matters by both the United Kingdom member of the Executive Board and the permanent delegation is well known in the Organisation, and our representatives endeavour to participate fully and constructively in all Executive Board and General Conference discussions relating to them. Questions of conditions of service in the specialised agencies are often for determination centrally in the United Nations Organisation. I have no measures to propose at present in respect of U.N.E.S.C.O. but we shall continue to give careful attention to these matters with the aim of helping to bring about improvements as they appear necessary.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether he is satisfied with existing arrangements for ensuring that long-term staff members of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation headquarters have adequate opportunities for keeping in touch with field developments and for academic and professional refresher courses; and if he will make a statement.

I am not dissatisfied with the existing arrangements, but it is recognised in the Organisation that they could be improved and steps are being taken to that end.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what research he has undertaken to discover how the programme of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation could be strengthened to ensure a more widespread and immediate impact and to focus more directly on vital world problems.

Our endeavour in all our activity concerning U.N.E.S.C.O. is to help the Organisation use the resources available to it to the maximum effect for the purpose of achieving, within its fields of competence, the aims set out in its Constitution. To this end, with the help of the National Commission and the other sources of expert advice open to the Ministry, constant attention is given in our policy towards U.N.E.S.C.O. to the need for concentration and co-ordination of effort, and a right order of priorities, in the programmes. We give specially close consideration to the Organisation's work in the field of development.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development (1) what plans he has now formulated for a regular annual subscription to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation World Literary Programme and for supplying personnel to participate in the programme at all levels of its administration and field work:(2) what plans he has formulated for providing in kind suitable supporting services for the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation World Literary Programme; and what initiative he has taken in helping to co-ordinate the activities of all relevant non-governmental organisations in support of the programme.

Her Majesty's Government have no plans for a regular contribution to the cost of the World Experimental Literacy Programme other than through its contribution to the regular budget of U.N.E.S.C.O. and to the United Nations Development Programme.An important contribution is being made by this country through the provision of skills. The International Recruitment Unit of the Ministry is actively engaged on U.N.E.S.C.O.'s behalf; and facilities for training are also provided. Beyond this, I have no general plans for providing supporting services in kind, but some of our existing bilateral aid programmes may well be able to contribute to functional literacy work in particular countries. The relevant non-governmental organisations already have their own arrangements, through the Voluntary Committee on Overseas Aid and Development, for co-ordinating their activities in all forms of overseas aid.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether he will propose to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation a major programme of educational exchanges at all levels between its member states party to the Warsaw Pact and those party to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation; and whether he will provide special financial assistance for such a programme.

No. While we welcome the possibilities for educational exchanges which already exist under certain parts of U.N.E.S.C.O.s programmes we have found in general that bilateral contacts and exchanges between countries can be more easily adjusted to take account of differences between educational systems; and for that reason, if exchanges are to take place on a fairly large scale, bilateral arrangements are preferable to multilateral ones. Moreover, we do not think that it would be appropriate for any U.N.E.S.C.O. major programme of this kind to be confined to the member States my hon. Friend has in mind.

Telephone Service

Alt-Figure Telephone Numbers (Dialling Instructions)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will offer guidance by advertisement or circular about the use of the prefix 01 when dialling London allfigure telephone numbers, in view of the confusion that arises in outer London between the General Post Office London area and the Greater London Council London area.

This is already being done by advertisements in newspapers and by leaflets to our customers. I am sending specimens to my hon. Friend.Telephone users should consult the dialling instructions issued for the telephone they are using if they do not know how to get a particular call from that telephone.

Ministry Of Power

Nationalised Fuel Industries (Publicity Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Power what was the expenditure on public relations and advertising, respectively, for each of the last three years by the nationalised gas, electricity and coal boards and their subsidiaries.

Expenditure on promotional publicity by the nationalised coal, gas and electricity industries in Great Britain in 1964–65 and 1965–66 was as follows:

(£ million)
CoalGasElectricity
1964–651·73·02·3
1965–661·73·22·5
For 1966–67, each industry agreed to contain its expenditure within an upper limit of £3 million.Expenditure on "public relations" is not quantifiable separately.

Coal

Pit Closures (Wales)

asked the Minister of Power whether he is aware of the concern felt in the Welsh coalfields concerning continued pit closures at a time of high unemployment in the areas affected; and if he will give a general direction to the National Coal Board to stop closing pits in areas of high unemployment.

I am aware of the concern in Wales about pit closures. However, it should be borne in mind that over 80 per cent. of the 2,400 men affected by the four closures since the beginning of September, 1966 have been successfully redeployed in the South Wales coalfields.The Unions have been informed by the N.C.B. of three closures proposed to take place in the next few weeks and the Board expect to offer jobs to about 80 per cent. of the men affected. There are at present about 1,500 vacancies at the most highly productive pits in the Division and the Government supports the N.C.B's policy of concentrating manpower in these pits.

National Finance

Selective Employment Tax (Dorset)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much money is being removed from the economy of Dorset in respect of the imposition of Selective Employment Tax on employees in hotels, restaurants and the cinema and amusement industry in that county.

I regret that this information is not available, nor is information on the amount of money added to the economy of Dorset as a result of Government expenditure financed by this and other taxes.

Excise Duties (Scotland)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what was the value of excise duty on Scotch whisky in the financial years 1964–65 and 1965–66;(2) what was the total value of excise duties on products manufactured in Scotland accruing to the Exchequer in the financial years 1964–65 and 1965–66.

The amounts of Excise duty paid on mature plain British spirit (nearly all of which is Scotch whisky) and on beer brewed in Scotland were as follows:

£million
1964–651965–66
Mature British spirit123·1126·9
Beer25·429·3
Separate information is not available about the amounts of revenue which arise from the production in Scotland of goods subject to other Excise duties.

Overseas Expenditure (Reduction)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now detail the composition of the £100 million reduction in Government overseas expenditure in 1967–68 or give the date on which the information will be available.

The Defence White Paper showed savings in overseas defence expenditure of £47½ million in 1967–68, building up to an annual rate of about £75 million by the end of that year. These forecasts take no account of changes in the balance of outgoings and receipts in respect of our forces in Germany, which will depend on the outcome of our discussions with the Federal Republic and with the United States. In addition, as my right hon. Friend the Minister of Overseas Development has announced, a reduction of £20 million has been made in the planned aid programme for 1967–68 as compared with the 1966–67 target. Savings have also been made of £1½ million on expenditure on military aid, and £1 million on representation and in formation services overseas. These savings total respectively £70 million in 1967–68 and a rate of about £97 million by the end of the year. Against this, contingency costs for Zambia falling in 1967–68 may have some counter-balancing effect against these savings.

Public Expenditure (Increase)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer at what rate of increase in public expenditure over the next few years the Government are now aiming.

Public expenditure is being reviewed as part of the planning operation announced by the First Secretary of State on 10th November, 1966 in order to ensure that the overall rate of increase together with the other demands on the economy does not outrun the prospective increase in total resources. Existing economic and social priorities will be examined as part of this process.