Written Answers To Questions
Thursday, 2nd March, 1967
Education And Science
Technical Colleges, London (Amalgamation)
1.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations have been made to him concerning proposals for amalgamating technical colleges in London.
My right hon. Friend will not receive formal proposals from the Inner London Education Authority until he invites authorities to submit Polytechnic schemes, which he hopes to do shortly. I understand, however, that the Authority are considering the form their proposals might take.
School Children (Malnutrition)
2.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what evidence has been presented to his Department on the unsatisfactory nutrition of school children; and whether he will make a statement.
Local Education Authorities submit annual returns of the numbers of school children examined under the School Health Service whose physical condition is assessed as unsatisfactory. In 1965 one child out of every 260 examined was so assessed. Separate information is not available to show which of these children were suffering from malnutrition. The returns show a steady improvement in the situation.
Obesity (Research)
5.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what medical research is being conducted into the causes and treatment of obesity as a separate disease entity, and, in particular, the psychosomatic aspects of obesity.
The causes of obesity are varied and an extensive programme of research is being undertaken by the Medical Research Council, in University Departments, and within the National Health Service and the School Health Service. This research covers all the factors that may be associated with the causes and treatment of obesity, including the psychological aspects of the problem.
Privately Educated Children (Public Funds)
19.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much is saved to public funds by a parent educating a child privately, including a three-year course at a university for which no grant is paid.
If small numbers of school children from a locality are educated privately there is little saving to public funds. If there are larger numbers, there could be a saving which might at the maximum amount to £2,000 a pupil for a full education up to 18. The greater part of the cost of university education is borne by public subsidy even in the case where no grant is paid, so no comparison of the kind requested is possible. Parental contribution for a university student towards maintenance and fees can rise to over £500 a year.
School Governors (Election)
20.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will seek to amend the Education Act, 1944 to ensure a more democratic system of electing school governors.
The Department is currently grant-aiding a study by University of London Institute of Education of the functions of school managers and governors. Their report is likely to be ready next year. My right hon. Friend will wish to study this report and the comments by local authority and teachers associations on the Plowden recommendations before deciding what further action may be desirable.
Nursery School Teachers
21.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he has to amend primary school teacher training courses to ensure that more nursery teachers are available when the Plowden proposals for the extension of nursery education are implemented.
My right hon. Friend is still considering the Plowden proposals, and is awaiting the comments of the teachers and local authority associations on them. The number of students taking nursery or nursery/infant courses has risen each year since 1964.
National Advisory Council For The Training And Supply Of Teachers
31.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what advice he has recently received from the National Advisory Council for the Training and Supply of Teachers.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave him on 19th January.—[Vol. 739, c. 99–100.]
University Of The Air
32.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a further statement on the establishment of a University of the Air, stating the reasons for the delay in proceeding with the project.
A good deal of preparatory work has now been completed, including a firm estimate of both capital and running costs. I hope to make a fuller statement soon.
Comprehensive Education (Letter)
33.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when an answer will be given to the letter on comprehensive education dated 29th July, 1966, from the Joint Executives of the National Union of Teachers, National Association of Schoolmasters and National Association of Head Teachers for the County of Holland, which was received by his Department and which was followed on 16th September, 1966, by a petition signed by 400 teachers in the County of Holland which was sent by recorded delivery.
A reply was sent on 30th August, 1966. The letter of 16th September was acknowledegd. A further letter was sent on 24th February explaining that before reaching a decision on the official proposals I had taken fully into account the views expressed by this body of teachers.
Archaeological Material (Export)
34.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will arrange that all antiquities of archaeological importance, even where the value is below £2,000, shall be submitted to the Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art before their export is permitted.
Special treatment of archaeological material in the manner suggested would depend on a satisfactory definition of such material for export control purposes. In its thirteenth report, covering the twelve months ending 30th June, 1966, the Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art, reported that prolonged attempts to find such a definition had failed. That remains the position.
Student Support
35.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will commission a departmental study to assess and publicly report on the practicability of replacing student grants wholly or partly by student loans.
The whole question of student support is kept under review in my Department in the light of comments received from interested organisations. I do not think that a formal inquiry on this particular point would be the best way of proceeding.
Overseas Students
36.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take steps, by discrimination in the allocation of grants to overseas students, to secure that such students are distributed evenly throughout United Kingdom universities.
I understand that those responsible for administering grants to overseas students from U.K. public funds already try to secure as equitable a distribution of students as possible, bearing in mind the availability of suitable courses.
45.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement on his meeting with the Committee of Principals and Vice-Chancellors on 28th February to discuss the increased fees for overseas students.
47.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement on his meeting with representatives of the University Vice-Chancellors on 28th February.
I had a full discussion with members of the Committee of Vice-Chancellors and Principals on Tuesday. The Vice-Chancellors explained the universities' concern and drew attention to a number of considerations affecting both the short-term and the longer term situation. I reaffirmed the Government's basic decision, but agreed to meet the Vice-Chancellors again in a few days' time to continue the discussion.
46.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether a student from the Republic of Eire will count as an overseas student for the purpose of the increased student fees.
Yes.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how the scale of financial assistance given to United Kingdom students abroad compares with that given to overseas students in the United Kingdom.
In 1956–66, the average cost of a university place in the U.K. exceeded the fees paid by the student by some £750 a year. The element of subsidy was considerably higher in the case of post-graduates who made up about half of the number of overseas students in U.K. universities. Comparable figures arc not available for all universities abroad, but Table 17 of Part I of Appendix Five of the Robbins Report shows that in 1960–61 the public recurrent expenditure for an equivalent full-time student in higher education was appreciably higher in this country than in West Germany, Sweden, or U.S.A.
Universities (Cost Per Student)
38.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the average annual cost per undergraduate in each university in England, Scotland and Wales.
Information on university expenditure is not readily available in this form. The following figures of the expenditure by each university in 1964–65 divided by the total number of full-time students are derived from the Returns from Universities and University Colleges 1964–65 (Cmnd. 3106).
| Academic Year 1964–65 | |
| Average university expenditure per full-time student | |
| £ | |
| Birmingham University | 1,016 |
| Bristol University | 882 |
| Cambridge University* | 805 |
| Durham University | 690 |
| East Anglia University | 1,125 |
| Essex University | 2,377 |
| Exeter University | 563 |
| Hull University | 580 |
| Keele University | 823 |
| Lancaster University | 1,020 |
| Leeds University | 781 |
| Leicester University | 608 |
| Liverpool University | 867 |
| London University, including its Colleges and Schools | 1,268 |
| Manchester University | 881 |
| Manchester University Institute of Science and Technology | 1,092 |
| Newcastle upon Tyne University | 934 |
| Nottingham University | 770 |
| Oxford University* | 781 |
| Reading University | 1,121 |
| Sheffield University | 855 |
| Southampton University | 752 |
| Sussex University | 731 |
| York University | 869 |
| University of Wales, including its Colleges and School | 703 |
| St. David's College, Lampeter | 537 |
| Aberdeen University | 775 |
| Edinburgh University | 721 |
| Glasgow University | 749 |
| St. Andrews University | 695 |
| Strathclyde University | 612 |
| * The figures for the Universities of Cambridge and Oxford exclude all expenditure by the Colleges, which covers part of the cost of teaching and administration. These figures are therefore not directly comparable with those of other universities | |
School-Leaving Age
37.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in view if the prospective increases in public expenditure in the Vote on Account, he will delay the introduction of a minimum school-leaving age of 16 years.
No.
Primary And Secondary Education (Cost Per Pupil)
39.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the average annual cost per child of primary education and secondary education in the region of the Northern Economic Planning Council and in other regions in the country, respectively.
In 1965–66 the average cost per primary pupil in maintained schools in the Northern region was about £70. This compared with about £72 for England and Wales as a whole outside the London area, where teachers are paid a special allowance and other costs tend to be higher. The corresponding figures for secondary pupils were about £132 and £135.
Sport And The Arts (Expenditure)
40.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what sums have been allocated during 1967–68 for sport and the arts, respectively; and what steps he is taking to narrow the existing disparity.
Public spending in 1967–68 will be as follows: capital and current expenditure from central Government funds, £2 million on sport and £14·6 million on the arts; capital expenditure from local government funds (excluding expenditure on educational establishments), £23 million on sport and £0·5 million on the arts. Figures of local government current expenditure on these services are not available.
Secondary Education (Reorganisation)
41.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he is satisfied that the further proposals he has received from the London Borough of Enfield for the reorganisation of secondary education have been sufficiently considered by the local education authority itself, by teachers and by parents; and if he will make a statement.
The Answer to the first part of the Question is "Yes" and to the second part "No".
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what further proposals he has received from local education authorities whose original plans for the reorganisation of secondary education were unsatisfactory.
I have so far rejected the plans of five local education authorities because they did not provide for the elimination of selection. It is too early as yet for me to have received alternative proposals, but I have suggested that discussions should take place between the authorities and the Department.
Teachers (Salaries)
42.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is aware that no progress has been made in negotiations on the salary claim for teachers submitted in 1966; and what action he will take to ensure that this claim is now considered expeditiously.
I would refer the hon. Member to my Answers of 23rd February to the hon. Members for West Ham, North (Mr. Arthur Lewis) and Tonbridge (Mr. Hornby).—[Vol. 741, c. 1941.]
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what body is currently dealing with negotiations for teachers' salary increases.
I would refer the hon. Member to my Answers of 23rd February to the hon. Members for West Ham, North (Mr. Arthur Lewis) and Tonbridge (Mr. Hornby).—[Vol. 741, c. 1941.]
Voluntary Colleges Of Education (Staff Pay)
43 and 44.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) why, under his college letter 3/67 r/574/54 of 25th February, he has instructed voluntary colleges of education that the revised scales for local government employees in the administrative, professional and technical classes payable with effect from 1st February in maintained colleges of education should not apply to voluntary colleges;(2) whether he is satisfied that his decision to discriminate between the maintained and voluntary colleges in relation to the increased payment to staff will not affect the recruitment of staff of colleges maintained by religious bodies; and if he will make a statement.
49.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why there is a difference in Government policy on the restraint of pay increases which prevent the same treatment for non-teaching staff of voluntary colleges of education as of maintained colleges.
Employees covered directly by agreements which were entered into on or before 20th July, 1966, to increase pay by specific amounts before the end of 1966 may, under paragraph 32 of Command 3150, receive these increases after six months' deferment. But Government policy requires that such increases should be limited to those directly covered by those agreements. The voluntary colleges of education were not party to the local government agreements in question here, so they have been advised that no consequential increases should be paid before 1st July, 1967. I cannot predict the effect on recruitment, but the White Paper on the severe restraint period (Cmnd. 3150) says that only in the most exceptional circumstances can a pay increase be justified during this period in order to attract or retain manpower.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why his Department has advised that the pay of non-teaching staff at voluntary colleges of education should be frozen whereas the pay of similar staff at maintained colleges is allowed to rise; and, as this has a divisive effect, if he will reconsider his decision.
I would refer the hon. Member to my Answer today to the hon. Members for Liverpool, Waver-tree (Mr. Tilney) and Cheltenham (Mr. Dodds-Parker).
School Milk (Over-Ordering)
48.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is satisfied that all local education authorities comply with his advice to renew at regular intervals, preferably weekly, the orders for milk distribution to the pupils of secondary schools in their respective areas; and what steps he is taking to remind those authorities which do not comply with his advice and so cause waste through unwanted and unused milk which has been ordered at the beginning of each term.
My right hon. Friend is satisfied that his advice on this matter is generally followed. Returns are periodically checked and any over-ordering is taken up with the local education authorities concerned. If the hon. Member knows of any specific instance of over-ordering and will give me details I shall be glad to look into it.
University Places (Competition)
50.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the Government will take steps, in consultation with the University Grants Committee, to ensure that competition for entry to university courses in arts, natural science, applied science and social science during the forthcoming quinquennium 1967–72 shall not be more severe than at present; and if he will make a statement.
Pressure for university places in different faculties is a matter which the University Grants Committee will, I am sure, take into account in preparing the advice which it will be giving to the Government in connection with the next quinquennial settlement.
Part-Time Teachers (Superannuation)
51.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to introduce legislation to enable part-time teachers, teaching halftime or more, to qualify for a superannuation scheme.
Following recommendations from the Working Party I set up to consider this, and consultations I have had with local authority and teachers' associations, I hope to introduce superannuation arrangements towards the end of the year for part-time teachers in primary and secondary schools. They will apply, on an optional basis, to part-time teachers who have done at least a year's full-time pensionable service. The Working Party are considering how the arrangements might be extended to other educational institutions.
Pre-School Playgroups (National Organiser)
52.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what will be the functions of the proposed national organiser for pre-school playgroups; and when he expects to announce an appointment.
This is the responsibility of the National Association of Pre-School Playgroups, which I understand hopes to make an appointment shortly. I understand that the person appointed will be expected to act as a general adviser on playgroup standards, but her precise functions will be defined by the Association.
Fulbright Awards
53.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many students have been awarded Fulbright scholarships to the United States of America and to Great Britain in each year since their inception.
Up to 30th June, 1965, Fulbright awards were made by the United States Educational Commission in the United Kingdom administering solely American funds. I do not have figures for the number of awards made during this period. In 1965–66 38 Americans held senior awards and 102 held graduate student awards while 209 British senior scholars and graduate students received travel grants. Corresponding figures for the current academic year are 35, 110 and 224.
Voluntary Service (Consultations)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of those national and local statutory and non-statutory organisations with which he has had consultations about the future of voluntary service by young people in Great Britain.
No. I am consulting a large number of organisations, but as my discussions are not yet complete they must remain confidential for the present.
University Governing Bodies (Student Representation)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will introduce legislation to compel all British universities to amend their constitutions so as to have student representation on their governing bodies.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Woolwich, West (Mr. Hamling) on 10th February.—[Vol. 740, c. 392.]
Partial-Hearing Units
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take steps to see that partial-hearing units are sited in increasing numbers of ordinary schools to cater for the needs of the deaf child.
I refer the hon. Member to the Answer of 23rd February given to my hon. Friend the Member for Epping (Mr. Newens).—[Vol. 741, c. 1938.]
Studley Agricultural College (Grant)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science which other establishments in the category of Studley Agricultural College have had their grants withdrawn.
None.
Home Department
Prosecution Appeals (Costs)
54.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that a successful uncontested prosecution appeal against an acquittal in a magistrates' court may result in a respondent having to pay costs substantially more than the maximum fine to which a person would have been liable in the event of conviction; and if he will take steps to see that this cannot happen.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to his Question on 27th February.—[Vol. 742. c. 35.]
Mr George Raft
55.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he has banned Mr. George Raft from entering Great Britain.
58.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for what reasons he has refused entry to Mr. George Raft, an American citizen, to attend to his business at the Colony Club, London, W.1.
As I stated on 28th February in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Wallsend (Mr. Garrett), I considered that Mr. Raft's continued presence here would not be conducive to the public good.—[Vol. 742, c. 78.]
Visas (Formosan Visitors)
56.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now announce the new procedure to allow visas for the bona fide private visitor from Formosa, wishing to come here for business or tourist reasons, which should then take only a few days after the application has reached the British visa officer in Taipei.
This procedure has now been introduced.
Drugs (Police Powers Of Search)
57.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied that powers available to the police for searching persons, premises and motor vehicles for dangerous drugs are adequate; what representations he has received on this subject; and if he will make a statement.
It has not been represented to me that the powers available are inadequate, but I will ascertain the views of chief officers of police.
Students' Rag Magazine (Police Visits)
59.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why Scotland Yard detectives visited West Ham College of Technology to interview Mr. Philip Bradbury; what objections were raised, and by whom, to the Students' Rag Magazine; and whether he will make a statement.
As the result of complaint from a member of the public about the Rag Magazine produced jointly by Waltham Forest Technical College and West Ham College of Technology, police officers visited these establishments on 3rd and 17th February respectively and interviewed, among others, Mr. Philip Bradbury, Chairman of the Rag Committee. No copies of the magazine were confiscated. The only copy that the police had was received from the complainant. This has been submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
George Blake
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, following the further interview arranged by him with the prisoner mentioned in paragraph 63 of the Mountbatten Report, he will now confirm that this prisoner in 1965 intimated to the security officer there mentioned that the Communist authorities were interested in George Blake, with a view to Blake's escape; and if he will make a statement.
At the recent interview, the prisoner concerned gave essentially the same information about his interrogation in East Germany as he gave to the Security Service on 2nd April, 1965. It affords no grounds for disagreeing with Lord Mountbatten's conclusion that there was no evidence that the prisoner warned the Security Authority that Communists intended to rescue Blake from Wormwood Scrubs.
Prisons (Market Values And Closure Payments)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in respect of each prison subject to the provisions of Section 38 of the Prison Act, 1952, what is its estimated present market value and the amount due, upon its closure, from the local authority to the Crown.
The following table shows the amounts which, subject to verification and negotiation, appear to be payable by local authorities under the Act. Estimated market values are not at present available.
| £ | s. | d. | |||
| Aylesbury Prison | … | … | 13,845 | 12 | 0 |
| Bedford Prison | … | … | 8,418 | 16 | 0 |
| Birmingham Prison | … | … | 61,411 | 4 | 0 |
| Bristol Prison | … | … | 21,481 | 4 | 0 |
| Canterbury Prison | … | … | 54,478 | 16 | 0 |
| Cardiff Prison | … | … | 47,361 | 4 | 0 |
| Swansea | … | … | |||
| Chelmsford Prison | … | … | 27,507 | 18 | |
| Dorchester Prison | … | … | 10,864 | 16 | |
| Durham Prison | … | … | 73,732 | 16 | |
| Exeter Prison | … | … | 19,176 | 6 | 0 |
| Gloucester Prison | … | … | 24,665 | 16 | 0 |
| Holloway Prison | … | … | 41,174 | 8 | 0 |
| Hull Prison | … | … | 39,598 | 4 | 0 |
| Leeds Prison | … | … | 51,138 | 0 | 0 |
| Leicester Prison | … | … | 12,818 | 8 | 0 |
| Lewes Prison | … | … | 14,907 | 12 | 0 |
| Lincoln Prison | … | … | 17,332 | 16 | 0 |
| Liverpool Prison | … | … | 122,880 | 0 | 0 |
| Maidstone Prison | … | … | 54,478 | 16 | 0 |
| Manchester Prison | … | … | 119,726 | 8 | 0 |
| Northallerton Prison | … | … | 19,249 | 0 | 0 |
| Oxford Prison | … | … | 9,009 | 12 | 0 |
| Portsmouth Borstal | … | … | 15,307 | 4 | 0 |
| Reading Borstal | … | … | 13,387 | 9 | 0 |
| Shepton Mallet Prison | … | … | 16,992 | 0 | 0 |
| Shrewsbury Prison | … | … | 17,186 | 16 | 0 |
| Stafford Prison | … | … | 68,976 | 16 | 0 |
| Usk Detention Centre | … | … | 17,624 | 8 | 0 |
| Wakefield Prison | … | … | 143,632 | 8 | 0 |
| Wandsworth Prison | … | … | 100,056 | 0 | 0 |
| Winchester Prison | … | … | 33,940 | 16 | 0 |
Metropolitan Police Motor-Cycles
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proportion of motor-cycles belonging to the Metropolitan Police is equipped with winking trafficator lights; and if he will seek information on how this figure compares with those belonging to county constabularies.
None. The information requested in the second part of the Question cannot be obtained without making special inquiries, which I do not think would be justified.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proportion of motor-cycles belonging to the Metropolitan Police is equipped with windshields; and if he will seek information on how this figure compares with those belonging to county constabularies.
714 out of an establishment of 925 motor-cycles. The information requested in the second part of the Question cannot be obtained without making special inquiries, which I do not think would be justified.
Summer Time (Trade With Europe)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, with a view to facilitating trade between Great Britain and Europe, he will introduce legislation to ensure that the time in Great Britain is the same as that of Western Eureope throughout the year.
The question of facilitating trade with Europe is being taken into account in the current review of Summer Time.
London Taxi Drivers (Tipping)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make regulations abolishing the tipping of taxi drivers in the Greater London area, and increasing the scale of fares by equivalent amounts.
To prohibit tipping would require legislation, and I doubt whether it could be properly enforced.
Assault Incident, Aberford
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of Yorkshire, West Riding, into the circumstances under which two private citizens, one a visiting American student, sustained personal injuries from assault in the village of Aberford, near Leeds, on 10th December, 1965, into the extent of their injuries and the steps that have been taken to apprehend their assailants; and what steps are proposed to diminish the risk of such assaults in the future.
I understand from the Chief Constable that two persons were convicted and sentenced at the Leeds West Riding Magistrates' Court on 14th February for offences connected with this incident, and that they have appealed against conviction and sentence. I cannot comment when the cases are still before the courts.
Economic Affairs
Regional Development
60.
asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what further proposals he has for regional development; and whether he will make a statement.
Regional Policy is under continuing study but my right hon. Friend has no proposal to make at the present time.
Motor Industry (Economic Development Committee)
61.
asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will now establish an economic development committee for the motor industry.
I am glad to say that agreement in principle has now been reached between all the interests concerned for the establishment of an Economic Development Committee for the motor manufacturing industry. The National Economic Development Office will be issuing an announcement when the necessary arrangements are complete.
Wage And Salary Increases (Orders)
asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs on how many occasions since 20th July he has refused to make an Order to prevent wage or salary increases.
The Government have made no more Orders under Part IV of the Prices and Incomes Act than have been necessary to ensure that the policy for the standstill and severe restraint are not undermined by the actions of a few.
Tuc Economic Committee (Discussions)
asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will make a statement on his discussions held on Thursday, 23rd February with the Trades Union Congress Economic Committee; and what reply he made to the Committee about their warning that if Great Britain joined the Common Market prices would rise very steeply and that they would expect wages to keep pace, and about how this conforms with the Gov- ernment's policy on wages standstill and severe restraint.
No. My right hon. Friend's discussions with the T.U.C. Economic Committee, which took place at the Committee's request, were confidential. As regards the second part of the Question, I have nothing to add to the Answers given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 10th November.—[Vol. 735, c. 1530–1.]
Wireless And Television
Television (405-Line Transmissions)
63.
asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the fact that all television sets on sale today are able to receive 405 lines on two out of three channels, as some new sets can receive 405 lines only and as the life of a television set is often 10 years, whether he will state the minimum number of years during which broadcasts will continue to be made on 405 lines.
The consideration to which the hon. Member has drawn attention will be kept very much in mind. There are however other factors, and in particular the rate at which duplication on the 625-line standard progresses, to be taken into account. I do not think therefore that it would be useful for me to specify now the minimum period for which the 405-line transmissions will continue. As I have said they will certainly continue for a period of years.
Radar Speed Trap Warning Apparatus (Licence)
asked the Postmaster-General if he is aware that a pocket-sized instrument is being produced by Marchant House Limited of New Street, Oadby, Liecester, to be used in motor vehicles to give instant warning of a police radar speed trap; whether, under his regulations, a licence will be required for its use; and on what conditions.
Anyone wishing to use this type of apparatus would require a licence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act, 1949. The firm in question has recently been informed that I am not prepared to issue a licence for such purposes.
Post Office
Palace Of Westminster (Postal Facilities)
64.
asked the Postmaster-General (1) whether it is possible for arrangements to be made for memoranda from outside organisations to be included in the morning delivery at both Houses, provided they are delivered to the post offices at the Palace of Westminster by 10 p.m. on the preceding evening;(2) whether he will make arrangements for hon. Members of both Houses of Parliament to circulate all hon. Members of both Houses through the post offices in the Palace of Westminster at a reduced charge.
Memoranda of the kind in question can be dealt with in this way, when Parliament is sitting, only if the people posting them can gain access to the Central Lobby and if they are tendered, appropriately stamped as postal packets, at the Post Office there; as the hon. Gentleman will know, I have no responsibility for controlling the admission of strangers to the Lobby. Alternatively, such packets would be included in the first delivery at both Houses if they were posted at the main Post Office in Howick Place, S.W.1, by 10.0 p.m. the previous evening.I am sorry that I should not be justified in introducing special postage rates of the kind to which the hon. Gentleman refers.
Post Office Trailers (Noise)
66.
asked the Postmaster-General what action he is taking to reduce the noise made on railway station platforms by the new Post Office trailers with iron wheels.
There are no Post Office trailers of new design with metal wheels on railway station platforms.
Damaged Mail (Official Statement)
asked the Postmaster-General why no official statement was made concerning the damage to a large number of mail bags on 18th February on the 10.35 p.m. Liverpool to Crewe train; how much damage was done; how many letters for the south of England and overseas were destroyed; and whether he will make a statement.
No statement was issued because reports appeared the next day in many national newspapers. 100 bags of mail were damaged, some severely. All the damaged mail has been examined and about 25,000 salvaged letters have been forwarded to addressees or returned to senders. Some letters were completely destroyed. It is not possible to say how many were for the south of England and overseas.
Telephone Service
Kiosks (Sadler's Wells Theatre)
67.
asked the Postmaster-General how long the two public telephones in the kiosks outside Sadler's Wells Theatre have been out of order through vandalism.
The coin box telephones in these kiosks were damaged and repaired twelve times in the twelve months up to September 1965, when they were damaged beyond repair for normal use. As other kiosks are available within 200 yards, the two outside the theatre were put in order for emergency calls only.Full service will be restored when strengthened boxes, now in production, are in plentiful supply. At present, priority is being given to damaged kiosks with no other nearby.
Technology
Institute Of Advanced Machine Tool And Control Technology (Equipment)
asked the Minister of Technology how far the money being allocated by his Department to Strathclyde for new equipment connected with machine tools will involve duplication with other establishments.
I assume the hon. Member is referring to the Institute of Advanced Machine Tool and Control Technology at East Kilbride. There should be little or no duplication when items of major equipment are provided for this Institute, and certainly no unnecessary duplication. One reason governing the choice of site for the Institute was the availability of equipment at the National Engineering Laboratory, thus avoiding duplication.
Geddes Report (Implementation)
68.
asked the Minister of Technology in what ways the implementation of the Geddes Report is now behind the timetable it set out.
The Government have been keeping close to the timetable in the Geddes Report but the introduction of the Shipbuilding Industry Bill was delayed for two or three weeks so that new proposals about credit facilities could be included in it.
Electricity
Nuclear Power Stations (Generation Cost)
69.
asked the Minister of Power what is his estimate of the cost of generation of electricity for the latest type of nuclear power station planned and for a conventional power station, respectively.
Allowing for cost increases since the Dungeness B tender, the total cost of generation for early A.G.R. stations is expected to be about 0·5d./kWh. For conventional stations, the corresponding estimates range between 0·5d. and 0·6d./kWh. according to fuel cost and location.
Power Stations (Natural Gas)
asked the Minister of Power what study he has made of the economic advantages of setting up fully gas-fired electricity generating stations near the East Anglian coast and distributing the power by reversing the flow along the existing grid lines connecting East Anglia and the Midlands; and what conclusions he has reached.
The Central Electricity Generating Board and the Gas Council are conducting further studies into the use of natural gas at power stations. The results will be carefully considered as part of the review of fuel policy which I am undertaking.
East German Régime (Recognition)
70.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if, in view of the upsurge of trade with Eastern Germany, he will now formally recognise the régime in order to further promote the course of peaceful co-operation.
No.
Rhodesia
71.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what evidence is available to Her Majesty's Government on the flow of oil to Rhodesia from South Africa and Mozambique since the imposition of United Nations sanctions.
I have nothing to add to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs' reply to the hon. Member for Cardigan (Mr. Elystan Morgan) on 27th January.—[Vol. 739, c. 389.]
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether the s.s. "Clan Macinnes" unloaded any prohibited material for Rhodesia between 16th and 19th February at Beira; and what action he is taking.
No prohibited cargo destined for Rhodesia was unloaded at Beira from this ship. Her Majesty's Government forbade the unloading of a small number of crates destined for Rhodesia and believed to contain prohibited goods.
Yemen
72.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware that the Government of the United Arab Republic have officially denied that they have used poison gas in the Yemen, and have asked the United Nations Organisation to appoint a fact-finding mission to go to the Yemen immediately; and if he will give an assurance that the British Government will support the United Arab Republic action at the United Nations Organisation.
I am aware of the United Arab Republic's denial. I understand that, although they have indicated formally to the United Nations that they would agree to an investigating mission, they have not taken the necessary steps to ensure that action is taken by sending the Secretary-General the firm invitation he would require. Her Majesty's Government would be in favour of an investigation if one were formally proposed.
Aden
73.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will cause an inquiry to be made into the killing by British soldiers of 50 Arabs in Aden.
No. As stated in the reply given by my right hon. Friend to the noble Lord the Member for Hertford (Lord Balniel) on 27th February, there is no truth in these allegations by Mr. Benenson.—[Vol. 742, c. 1–2.]
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on reports he has received about executions of Arabs in Aden by British forces.
There have been no executions in Aden. Allegations by Mr. Benenson of killings of Arabs by British soldiers were refuted by my right hon. Friend in reply to a Question by the noble Lord the Member for Hertford (Lord Balniel) on 27th February.—[Vol. 742, c. 1–2.]
South Arabian Armed Services (Training Programme)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many men in the South Arabian Army, Air Force and Navy are receiving or will receive technical training as part of Her Majesty's Government's programme; and how many of these will be trained in the United Kingdom.
The training programme for the South Arabian Army, Air Force and Navy is drawn up by the Federal Ministry of Defence; Her Majesty's Government help as and when requested. Much of the technical train- ing is carried out in South Arabia. However 151 members of the Federal Regular Army are receiving or will receive technical training abroad this year, 26 of them in the United Kingdom. Two members of the South Arabian Air Force and six members of the Navy are now receiving or are about to receive technical training in the United Kingdom.
Board Of Trade
Textile Industry (Lancashire And Cheshire)
74.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what action he is taking to restore the confidence of the textile industry in Lancashire and Cheshire.
This Government have done and are doing more than any other to stabilise the level of imports, but we cannot isolate the textile industry in Lancashire and Cheshire from the effects of the general economic measures which we had to take last July. The position should improve as soon as distributors begin to replenish their depleted stocks.
Textiles (Imports)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made in his discussions with the Textile Council for the appointment of an expert commission to advise on the regulation of disruptively priced cotton and man-made fibre imports.
My right hon. Friend hopes to make a statement shortly.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether any progress has been made in discussions with other countries about sharing the burden of textile imports; which countries have so far been consulted; and if he will make a statement.
The Board of Trade have always taken every opportunity to emphasise the disparity in the performance of importing countries. There have been increases, in some cases, in the quotas available to developing countries.
Grey Towns
asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made towards solving the problems of grey towns; what kind of special assistance will be given to such areas; and if he will make a statement.
In so far as industrial development is concerned, the problems of those localities where some diversification is desirable but whose circumstances do not justify designation as a development area can best be met through the flexible administration of the i.d.c. control.
Global Quota System (Categorisation)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has yet investigated the possibilities of extending categorisation under the global quota system; and if he will make a statement.
The Government negotiated a far tighter system of categorisation than any which previously existed as an integral part of the global quota scheme. Any proposal to extend categorisation would therefore reopen discussion of the whole control system, and I am sure that this would not be to the industry's advantage.
Scotland
Houses (Percentage Increases)
75.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the percentage increase in the total number of houses completed in Scotland in the two-year period 1965–66 over the period 1963–64; and what was the corresponding percentage increase in the two-year period 1963–64 over the period 1961–62.
Nine per cent. and 21 per cent. respectively.The figures are:
| 1961–62 | … | … | … | 53,991 |
| 1963–64 | … | … | … | 65,388 |
| 1965–66 | … | … | … | 71,145 |
Economic Planning (Inter-Departmental Committee)
Q6.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will set up an interdepartmental committee to examine the possible consequences of co-ordination of economic planning in the United Kingdom and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as proposed to him by Mr. Kosygin.
As the hon. Member knows it is not the usual practice to reveal details of the Government's internal committee structure.
School Medical Service (Transfer Of Departmental Responsibility)
Q7.
asked the Prime Minister if he will transfer responsibility for the school medical service from the Department of Education and Science to the Ministry of Health.
I see no case for doing so at present.
Aviation (Departmental Co-Ordination)
Q8.
asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the coordination between the Ministry of Technology and the Board of Trade in the matters of aviation; and if he will make a statement.
Yes.
Prices And Incomes Policy (Ministerial Co-Ordination)
Q10.
asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with Ministerial co-ordination in consulting the interested parties about the best way of carrying forward the productivity, prices and incomes policy after the end of July 1967; and if he will make a statement.
Yes.
Rhodesia
Q9.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the reports received by the Secretary General about the effectiveness of mandatory sanctions on Rhodesia, he will now seek a meeting with Mr. Ian Smith in Salisbury or in London.
I have nothing to add to the Answers given to Questions on this subject by myself on 20th December, 19th January and 2nd, 21st and 23rd February, and by my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State on 17th and 24th January.—[Vol. 738, c. 1176–83; Vol. 739, c. 24–8; Vol. 739, c. 648–54; Vol. 739, c. 1261–3; Vol. 740, c. 762–8; Vol. 741, c. 1425; Vol. 741, c. 1956–7.]
European Economic Community
Q11.
asked the Prime Minister what contingency plans have been made for alternative economic groupings in the case of Great Britain's entry into the Europeon Economic Community being vetoed.
I have nothing to add to the Answers to Questions given by my right hon. Friend the First Secretary and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs on 9th February.—[Vol. 740, c. 1811.]
asked the Prime Minister whether in the course of his discussions with the leaders and heads of Common Market countries the difference in time during the winter months was discussed.
No.
Government Department Stationery (Party Political Communications)
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will issue instructions to all Ministers that Government Department writing paper will not be used for sending out party political communications.
The position is well understood and no new instructions are required.
Cables And Telegrams (Security Measures)
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister whether there is now any warrant in force, under Section 4(1) of the Official Secrets Act 1920, requiring the production of all telegrams or of any specified class or description of telegrams.
It would be contrary to long-established practice to give this information.
asked the Prime Minister to what extent the practice of reading private cables and telegrams by security officers has been extended since 11th November, 1965.
I have nothing to add to my previous replies to Questions on this subject.—[Vol. 741, c. 1432–3; Vol. 741, c. 1975–80; Vol. 742, c. 274–8.]
President Kaunda (Invitation To London)
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister if he will invite President Kaunda of Zambia to visit London.
I have nothing to add to the Answer given by my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State on 24th January to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton).—[Vol. 739, c. 245.]
Welsh Tourist Industry (Ministerial Responsibility)
asked the Prime Minister (1) if he will define Ministerial responsibility for the Welsh tourist industry;(2) whether, in view of the importance of the tourist industry to Wales and the need to develop this industry, he will give to the Secretary of State for Wales responsibility for the promotion and development of the industry.
Through the Wales Tourist Board, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales is, with the other interests represented on the Board, already responsible for promoting the development of the tourist trade in Wales. He is directly responsible for a number of functions affecting the tourist trades, including planning, environmental services, roads and National Parks, and he exercises a general supervision of the execution within Wales of the national policies of other Departments which might affect the Welsh tourist industry.
The Press (D Notices)
asked the Prime Minister whether he will ask the Services, Press and Broadcasting Committee, when examining his recent reference to them of the issue of D notices, to examine the practices over the last 40 years, with particular reference to the period 1951–64 and to the number of occasions upon which the Governments of that period acted along similar lines to Her Majesty's Government.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Statement I made on 28th February and the Answers I gave to supplementary questions on that day about the scope of Lord Radcliffe's inquiry.—[Vol. 742, c. 274.]
Ministry Of Defence
Mr Leslie Parkes
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what date has been put on the discharge papers of Mr. Leslie Parkes.
15th February, 1967.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, as a result of his investigation, he will now give in detail the reasons for the delay of seven months which occurred between the civilian proceedings brought against Mr. Parkes and his arrest by the Military Police.
The time was taken in the collection and examination of evidence from 45 military and civilian witnesses, some of them serving overseas.
Camps (Withdrawn Baor Units)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence which are the 14 camps that were available last July for troops withdrawn from the Continent; what is their respective capacity; and how far they are now used or earmarked for troops withdrawn to this country from elsewhere than the Continent.
The 14 camps earmarked last July have now been included in a larger list of camps to meet planned withdrawals as a result of the Defence Review as well as possible withdrawals from B.A.O.R. Each is sufficient for a major unit; but their use depends on the type of unit to be withdrawn, its rôle in the United Kingdom, and the training facilities available locally. I am not prepared to name these camps at the present time.
Housing
Leasehold Houses (Tenure)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will publish a table showing, for each economic planning region, the approximate number of leasehold houses with a rateable value not exceeding £200, the approximate number, with a rateable value exceeding £200 but not exceeding £400, and the approximate number with a rateable value exceeding £400.
I regret that the information requested is not available. The valuation lists give no particulars of tenure.
Ministry Of Labour
Textile Industry (Weekly Wage Rates)
asked the Minister of Labour what are the average weekly rates in the United Kingdom for blowing room operatives, strippers and grinders, loom overlookers, weavers, warpers, stenters and callenderers, back fillers and drying machine operators, for the years 1964, 1965, 1966 and the present day; and what information he has from international sources about the rates for Portugal.
The following table gives standard or minimum rates of wages in this country for certain occupations. The information is drawn from a number of the principal agreements for the textiles industry. Centrally determined minimum rates are not specified for loom overlookers in the textiles manufacturing section and basic rates vary between mills and areas. Corresponding rates of wages for Portugal are not available from the usual international sources.
Minimum Weekly Rates of Wages at
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| 1st April
| 1st April
| 1st April
| 1st March
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1964
| 1965
| 1966
| 1967
| Remarks | |||||
| s. | d. | s. | d. | s. | d. | s. | d. | ||
Cotton Spinning
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| Blowing room operatives in charge of machines:— | |||||||||
| Single process lapping:— | |||||||||
| (a) Single lap end machines (straight through) three lap ends | 218 | 3 | 227 | 0 | 236 | 0 | 245 | 5 | |
| Provided that where only two lap ends can be satisfactorily tended the wage shall be | 195 | 2 | 203 | 0 | 212 | 0 | 220 | 6 | |
| (b) Where one range feeds two or three lap ends, three lap ends Provided in cases where four lap ends can be satisfactorily tended the wage shall be | 218 | 3 | 203 | 0 | 212 | 0 | 220 | 6 | |
| (c) Minimum wage | 170 | 7 | 177 | 5 | 200 | 0 | 208 | 0 | |
| Labourers | 173 | 1 | 179 | 11 | 200 | 0 | 208 | 0 | |
| Strippers and grinders (Bolton district):— | |||||||||
| Brush stripped or back and front type vacuum stripping | 203 | 6 | 211 | 8 | 220 | 8 | 229 | 6 | Wage for standard number of cards |
| Twin nozzle stripping | 219 | 11 | 228 | 9 | 237 | 9 | 247 | 3 | |
| Metallic wire clothing cylinder and doffer and flats | 228 | 2 | 237 | 4 | 246 | 4 | 256 | 2 | |
| Metallic wire clothing cylinder and doffer only | 236 | 6 | 246 | 0 | 255 | 0 | 265 | 2 | |
Cotton Weaving
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| Weavers:— | |||||||||
| (a) On ordinary system of 4 looms | 122 | 2* | 127 | 1* | 136 | 1* | 141 | 6* | |
| (b) On more than 6 loom system | 166 | 10† | 173 | 7† | 182 | 7† | 189 | 11† | |
| (c) On Cotton Manufacturing Commission system | 117 | 8 | 122 | 5 | 122 | 5 | 127 | 4 | Plus efficiency |
| Plus flat rate addition | 5 | 9 | 6 | 0 | 15 | 0 | 15 | 7 | bonus |
| Warpers (beamers)—male or female | 121 | 10* | 126 | 9* | 135 | 9* | 141 | 2* | |
Textile Bleaching, Dyeing, Printing and Finishing (Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire and Derbyshire)
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| Stenters, callenderers, back fillers, drying machine operatives:— | |||||||||
| Males | 175 | 3 | 199 | 11 | 207 | 5 | 207 | 5 | |
| Females | 123 | 6 | 140 | 8 | 145 | 11 | 145 | 11 | |
* These minimum rates apply to pieceworkers, who are paid the usual piece price rates or the stated minimum rates, whichever are the higher. | |||||||||
| † Plus one-fifth of earnings from all loom s calculated upon a basic rate of 19·5d. per 100,000 picks. | |||||||||
Ports
Container Port, Clyde Estuary
asked the Minister of Transport what consultations she has had with representatives of the Clyde Port Authorities about the development of a container port in the Clyde Estuary.
The Authority informed my right hon. Friend of its immediate proposal to provide container facilities at Glasgow, which does not require her consent. She is considering the Authority's proposal for a container port at Greenock in the light of the advice given to her by the National Ports Council following extensive discussions with the Authority, and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland has kept her informed of the discussions which my hon. Friend the Minister of State and his Department had with them.
Roads
A406-A105 Junction (Road Works)
asked the Minister of Transport when work will start on the major road works to be carried out at the junction of Bowes Road, the A406, and Green Lanes, the A105; when this is expected to be completed; and what plans she has for a temporary improvement in the meantime.
These works should start early in 1968 and take about 12 months. Proposals for traffic management measures for use in the meantime and during the progress of the works are being considered.
A406 (Pedestrian Underpass)
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will authorise the building of a pedestrian underpass under Telford Road, the A406, at the junction with Bowes Road.
No. Adequate facilities for pedestrians already exist at the junction.
Transport
Unlicensed Motor Vehicles, Greater London
asked the Minister of Transport if she will estimate the present number of unlicensed vehicles in the Greater London area.
We know how many vehicles are detected unlicensed but, by definition, not the number of unlicensed vehicles which are not detected. It is, therefore, impossible to give the estimate asked for.
Overseas Development
Commonwealth Students
asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many Government-sponsored Commonwealth students are studying in Great Britain; and from which countries they come.
The number of Commonwealth students studying in Britain, including teachers in training, practical trainess and non-fee-paying students, who are supported from British public funds is 2,686. They come from the following countries:
| Aden | … | … | … | … | … | 17 |
| Australia | … | … | … | … | … | 51 |
| Bahamas | … | … | … | … | … | 11 |
| Barbados | … | … | … | … | … | 22 |
| Bermuda | … | … | … | … | … | 1 |
| Botswana | … | … | … | 8 |
| British Honduras | … | … | … | 6 |
| Brunei | … | … | … | 10 |
| Canada | … | … | … | 65 |
| Ceylon | … | … | … | 89 |
| Cyprus | … | … | … | 25 |
| Fiji | … | … | … | 9 |
| Gambia | … | … | … | 34 |
| Ghana | … | … | … | 73 |
| Gibraltar | … | … | … | 5 |
| Guyana | … | … | … | 9 |
| Hong Kong | … | … | … | 33 |
| India | … | … | … | 347 |
| Jamaica | … | … | … | 86 |
| Kenya | … | … | … | 183 |
| Leeward Islands | ||||
| Antigua | … | … | … | 4 |
| Montserrat | … | … | … | 4 |
| St. Kitts, Nevis | … | … | … | 6 |
| Lesotho | … | … | … | 17 |
| Malawi | … | … | … | 49 |
| Malaysia | … | … | … | 176 |
| Malta | … | … | … | 33 |
| Mauritius | … | … | … | 17 |
| New Zealand | … | … | … | 30 |
| Nigeria | … | … | … | 443 |
| Pacific Islands | ||||
| Gilbert and Ellice | … | … | … | 2 |
| New Hebrides | … | … | … | 2 |
| British Solomon Islands | … | … | … | 9 |
| Tonga | … | … | … | 4 |
| Pakistan | … | … | … | 178 |
| Rhodesia | … | … | … | 29 |
| St. Helena | … | … | … | 8 |
| Seychelles | … | … | … | 7 |
| Sierra Leone | … | … | … | 88 |
| Singapore | … | … | … | 54 |
| Swaziland | … | … | … | 9 |
| Tanzania | … | … | … | 137 |
| Trinidad | … | … | … | 68 |
| Uganda | … | … | … | 142 |
| Windward Islands | ||||
| Dominica | … | … | … | 10 |
| Grenada | … | … | … | 6 |
| St. Lucia | … | … | … | 2 |
| St. Vincent | … | … | … | 5 |
| Zambia | … | … | … | 62 |
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what is the cost of keeping a Government-sponsored Commonwealth student in Great Britain.
A sample of those in this country last year under technical assistance regional programmes shows that the average cost of a student from the beginning to the end of his course and allowing for passage costs, etc. was about £2,425. This does not include the hidden subsidy represented by the uneconomic fees charged by institutions of higher education. The cost in any individual case, however, depends to a large extent on the length of course.