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Written Answers

Volume 742: debated on Monday 6 March 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 6th March, 1967

Public Building And Works

Home-Produced Wood Chipboard

19.

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he will request the National Building Agency to examine the extent to which the amount of home-produced wood chipboard for flooring applications in building could be increased, with a view to reducing the amount of solid timber at present imported for such purposes.

No. This is not the function of the National Building Agency. I have, however, already asked the Economic Development Committees for Building and Civil Engineering to consider ways of saving imports of building materials, of which timber is the largest single item.

Admiralty House (Public Viewing)

23.

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he will make arrangements to open to the public the state rooms at Admiralty House once weekly on Saturdays.

St James's Palace (Cleaning)

24.

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will arrange for St. James's Palace to be cleaned down in the near future.

I am looking into this. The decision will depend partly on the results of a survey of the old brickwork, and on the cost.

Polaris Base And Nuclear Weapons Depot

29.

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is the total cost of the work completed at the Polaris base and the Nuclear Weapons Depot up to 28th February not included in the Defence Vote; if he will give the cost of the work his Department has done at the school; and if he will give a list of the larger items of expenditure.

My Ministry's total expenditure up to 28th February was £13·2 million. This comprised £4·3 million on the Coulport Depot, £1·2 million on married quarters, and £7·7 million on the Faslane base, of which £715,000 was on the school.

Ministers (Cars)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works (1) what was the total mileage run by Government vehicles placed at the disposal of Ministers in the years 1964, 1965 and 1966;(2) what was the total cost per mile, including depreciation and excluding depreciation, respectively, incurred in the running of Government vehicles placed at the disposal of Ministers in the years 1964, 1965 and 1966.

Figures are available only for financial years and for vehicles allocated to Ministers by my Department. These are:—

Financial yearTotal mileageTotal cost per mile including depreciationTotal cost per mile excluding depreciation
d.d.
1963–64296,15248·5941·57
1964–65351,74545·2739·39
1965–66409,00645·3039·58

Fort George

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works when the present renovations at Fort George started; and what is the estimated cost.

The present renovation began in January, 1967, and is estimated to cost £160,000.

Social Security

Retirement Pensioners (Earnings-Related Benefits)

31.

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she will introduce legislation so that workers who are above retirement age and who are still employed, but who may fall sick or become temporarily unemployed, can receive wage-related benefit.

No. This possibility was very carefully considered when the earnings-related short-term benefits scheme was being prepared but there are compelling reasons against paying sickness and unemployment benefits above the retirement pension rate to people who are over minimum pension age.

Retirement Pensioners (Late Claims)

asked the Minister of Social Security how many cases in the years 1964, 1965 and 1966 were brought to the attention of her Department of retirement pensioners losing benefits through late claims; and what would have been the cost each year of paying such late claims in full.

I regret that this information is not available. No record is kept of late claims for retirement pensions.

Benefits (Tests Of Means)

asked the Minister of Social Security if she will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the social security benefits for which some test of means is applied as a condition of payment.

Tests of means are applied for my Department for the following social security benefits:

  • 1. Supplementary Benefit (including repayment of National Health Service charges) under the Ministry of Social Security Act 1966.
  • 2. Accommodation and pocket money provided under the Polish Resettlement Act 1947.
  • In addition resources are taken into account in considering claims for certain war pensions dependants' benefits.

    Long-Term Hospital Patients (Pocket Money)

    asked the Minister of Social Security whether she is satisfied that the sum of 16s. a week pocket money is enough to sustain the personal needs of long-term patients in hospital, especially geriatric patients; and whether she will make a statement.

    I am satisfied that in determining the rate of National Insurance benefit which is payable to long-term hospital patients it is reasonable to take into account the fact that everything necessary for the patient's comfort and well-being is provided free of charge. The benefit that is payable is only intended for any small extras which a patient may feel he would like to have.

    Retirement Pensioners (Supplementary Pensions)

    asked the Minister of Social Security what is the average supplementary pension now being paid to retirement pensioners without resources other than those disregarded for supplementary pension purposes.

    Retirement Pensioners (Statistics)

    asked the Minister of Social Security how many retirement pensioners there are in Wales, Scotland, and England, respectively; and what percentage these numbers are of the total number of persons over 21 years of age.

    It is estimated that there were, at 31st December, 1966, about 335,000 retirement pensioners in Wales, 575,000 in Scotland and 5,625,000 in England, representing respectively 17·9, 16·9 and 18·2 per cent. of the population over 21 years of age.

    Supplementary Pensions (Wales)

    asked the Minister of Social Security how many persons have asked for supplementary pensions in Wales; what percentage of retirement pensioners in Wales made a claim; and how many were successful.

    Up to 31st January, 1967, about 38,000 claims to supplementary pension had been made in Wales; about 25,000 were successful. The percentage of retirement pensioners who made a claim is not known.

    Retirement And Widows' Pensions (Contribution Gaps)

    asked the Minister of Social Security if she is aware that it is now time to discontinue the practice of reducing the amount of payment due to retirement pensioners in lieu of shortage of stamps prior to 1948; and if she will take steps to ensure that such arrears do not have to be made good.

    There are already provisions to enable gaps in contribution records which arose during 1947–48 to be made good by retrospective payment, both for retirement and widows' pensions. I do not think that in fairness all-round we could go beyond this under our contributory scheme of National Insurance.

    Emphysema And Bronchitis (Disablement Pensions)

    asked the Minister of Social Security (1) if she will give an estimate of the number of people with assessments of 50 per cent. or more in respect of pneumoconiosis and also suffering from emphysema or bronchitis who would benefit if their emphysema or bronchitis were also taken into account in the assessment of their disability;(2) how many people with assessments of 50 per cent. or more in respect of pneumoconiosis and associated conditions were in receipt of industrial injury benefits at the latest convenient date.

    At 30th September, 1965. there were approximately 6,300 beneficiaries receiving disablement pensions under the Industrial Injuries Act for pneumoconiosis assessed at 50 per cent. or more. Some 4,000 of these already receive the maximum rate of disablement pension or its equivalent. The remainder would benefit were the effects of any accompanying emphysema or bronchitis wholly taken into account in the assessment of their industrial disablement.

    European Economic Community (Industrial Diseases)

    asked the Minister of Social Security to what extent she is associated with the work being done by the countries of the European Economic Community relating to industrial diseases.

    The European Economic Community Commission issued Recommendations on industrial diseases to Member States in July, 1962, and again in July, 1966. I am not of course associated officially with the work of the Commission but the developments embodied in them are being studied carefully.

    Central Pneumoconiosis Medical Panel

    asked the Minister of Social Security how many cases have been adjudicated to date by the new Central Pneumoconiosis Medical Panel; and with what results.

    The new Central Pneumoconiosis Medical Panel has held five boarding sessions. Twenty-one men have been examined and three cases of pneumoconiosis diagnosed.

    National Insurance Fund

    asked the Minister of Social Security what was the net capital accumulation from National Insurance during the last five years, respectively; and what trend she is estimating for in the next 10 years.

    The excess or deficit of income over outgo of the National Insurance Fund during the last five years was as follows:—

    Year£ million
    1961–62+13
    1962–63-13
    1963–64-49
    1964–65-21
    1965–66+25
    The Government Actuary has estimated that on the basis of the rates of contributions and benefits laid down in the Act, the annual average deficit for periods up to 1980 would be as follows:
    Five-year period£ million Annual Average Deficit
    1965–70-12
    1970–75-64
    1975–80-70

    Family Expenditures Survey (Pensioners)

    asked the Minister of Social Security whether she is aware of the Report of the Family Expenditures Survey for 1966 that pensioners have to draw on savings to meet commitments; and what action she proposes to take to remedy this situation.

    I am aware that the Report shows that some pensioner households included in the Survey were not living solely on current income but were drawing on savings or receiving occasional help from relatives. There is nothing new or unexpected in this situation to call for special action by me.

    Hospitals

    East Ham Memorial Hospital (Personal Case)

    41.

    asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that the eight-year-old daughter of Mr. Gerald Smith was kept waiting in the East Ham Memorial Hospital for three hours before receiving treatment for a broken arm; and whether he will hold an inquiry into this incident.

    This little girl was placed under nursing supervision immediately on arrival at the hospital and was seen by a doctor soon after. I am advised that treatment then proceeded as quickly as the circumstances of her case allowed.

    Part Iii Accommodation (Cost)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the average weekly cost per person of providing Part III accommodation.

    Geriatric Hospital Patients (Cost)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the average weekly cost of maintaining a patient in a geriatric hospital.

    Drug Costs

    asked the Minister of Health whether, in view of the effect of expensive new drugs on hospital financial allocations, he will seek to make special financial allocations to regional boards to ease the difficulties of some hospitals.

    No. These costs are take into account in the annual additions to boards' allocations.

    Building Supervisors

    asked the Minister of Health what are the maxima and minima salaries of building supervisors employed in hospitals; and how they compare with the salaries of group engineers.

    £896 and £1,426: the lowest and highest salaries for group engineers are £1,098 and £2,322.

    asked the Minister of Health whether all posts of building supervisors in hospitals are currently filled; and what is the rate of turnover among these employees.

    The latest available information, provided by 245 hospital authorities, showed 6 vacancies on 1st January, 1966. The rate of turnover is not known.

    Kidney Machine Facilities (Havering)

    asked the Minister of Health what facilities are available for use of a kidney machine in the area covered by the London Borough of Havering.

    There are facilities at Oldchurch Hospital for the treatment of patients suffering from acute renal failure including cases of poisoning. A regional unit to treat patients needing maintenance dialysis has been started at St. Bartholomew's Hospital which will later be expanded at St. Leonard's Hospital, N.1. A pilot scheme has been started at the London Hospital and consideration is being given to the expansion of facilities for maintenance dialysis.

    Nursing Profession (Salmon Committee's Report)

    asked the Minister of Health whether he will make a statement on the Report of the Salmon Committee.

    Yes. The Committee's main recommendations on the pattern of a "line" system of nursing administration, a simplified grading structure, and systematic preparation for management responsibility have been widely welcomed, and the Secretary of State for Scotland and I accept them in principle. We have reservations on some matters and others require further study, and implementation of the recommendations must also be subject to our resources of manpower and finance.

    We agree that the new system of grading and administration should be worked out in practice in pilot schemes, and I shall shortly be writing to hospital boards inviting their co-operation in selecting groups where these schemes can best be introduced, with the appointment of a chief nursing officer to reshape the nursing services in line with the Committee's recommendations. In Scotland regional hospital boards are being asked by my right hon. Friend to identify suitable areas for pilot schemes in consultation with boards of management.

    On the management training of nurses I am taking steps to set up a national committee, which will however be rather more broadly based than the Salmon Committee suggested. The Secretary of State has under consideration arrangements for the co-ordination of management training in Scotland.

    The revised staffing structure which will involve a major reorganisation, should result in an improved service with better opportunities in the top posts in the profession. Discussions on appropriate safeguards for any in these positions who may be adversely affected are already in progress in the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council.

    The Secretary of State joins with me in expressing gratitude to the Chairman and members of the Committee for a Report which has already become a landmark in the history of the nursing profession.

    Ministry Of Health

    National Health Service

    asked the Minister of Health if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT those services provided under the National Health Service regulations for which a test of means is applied.

    The provision of services forming part of the National Health Service is not dependent on any test of means though certain charges are waived or reimbursed to those who cannot afford them.

    Wales (Central Registry)

    asked the Minister of Health if he will establish in Cardiff a Central Registry to serve the whole of Wales in which births, deaths, marriages and wills can be registered in either Welsh or English.

    National Health Service (Drug Costs)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the percentage increase in drug costs within the National Health Service for the past five years.

    Expenditure in England and Wales on drugs in the Hospital Service increased by about 43 per cent. from 1960–61 to 1965–66, and on drugs, dressings and appliances dispensed by chemists by about 64 per cent.

    Drug Addiction

    asked the Minister of Health, in view of the available statistics on the increase of drug addiction, if he will seek powers to prevent addicts from discharging themselves from hospital when they are not fit to he discharged, and consider seeking to amend the law of vagrancy so as to justify their detention in hospital, to prevent them from destroying themselves and others.

    No. I accept the Brain Committee's view that compulsory treatment meets with little success.

    Dental Care And Fluoridation (Cost)

    asked the Minister of Heath what is the average cost of dental care per person; and what is the estimated cost of installing fluoridation, the yearly cost of fluoridation and the reduction in expenditure on dental care that he estimates will arise from fluoridation, after two years, five years and 10 years, respectively.

    Ministry Of Labour

    Labour-Only Sub-Contracting (Inquiry)

    44.

    asked the Minister of Labour what occasioned the delay in setting up the inquiry into labour-only sub-contracting; and whether he will make a statement.

    It was necessary to consult the Economic Development Committees for Building and for Civil Engineering and to consider trade union representations that the inquiry should extend to industries other than construction, before the terms of reference, which my right hon. Friend announced on 20th February, could be finalised.

    Civil Air Transport Industry Training Board

    asked the Minister of Labour what progress has been made with the establishment of the Civil Air Transport Industry Training Board.

    I have laid an Order today establishing this Board to take effect from 8th March. The following have accepted an invitation to become members of the Board:

    Chairman

    Mr. G. R. Scott-Farnie, C.B.E.. M.I.E.R.E., Deputy Chairman and Managing Director, International Aeradio Ltd., Aeradio House, Hayes Road, Southall, Middlesex.

    Employers

    Dr. W. S. Barry, B.Sc. (Econ.), Ph.D.(Econ.), F.R.G.S., A.M.Inst.T., Training and Education Manager, British European Airways, Bealine House, Ruislip, Middlesex.
    Mr. A. W. Cameron, D.F.C., L.C.P., A.M.S.E., A.R.Ae.S., M.I.P.M., General Manager Manpower, British Overseas Airways Corporation, London (Heathrow) Airport, Hounslow, Middlesex.
    Mr. I. C. Grant, M.B.E., General Manager—Production, British Eagle International Airlines Limited, London (Heathrow) Airport, Hounslow, Middlesex.
    Dr. J. L. Grumbridge, O.B.E., B.Sc.(Econ.), Ph.D.(Econ.), F.S.S., F.Inst.M.S.M., M.Inst.T., M.I.P.M., Personnel Director, British European Airways, Bealine House, Ruislip, Middlesex.
    Mr. E. Hewitt. D.S.C., Director of Administration and Personnel, British Airports Authority, 2 Buckingham Gate, London, S.W.1.
    Mr. P. G. A. Lewis. General Manager (Personnel), British United Airways Limited, London (Gatwick) Airport, Horley, Surrey.
    Mr. E. R. Major, B.Sc. (Eng.), C.Eng., A.F.R.Ae.S., A.M.I.Mech.E., M.S.L.A.E.T., Deputy Chief Engineer, British Overseas Airways Corporation, C207 Technical Block "A", London (Heathrow) Airport, Hounslow, Middlesex.
    Councillor W. L. Taylor, B.L., J.P., Vice-Chairman, Joint Airports Committee of Local Authorities, 18 Woodside Place, Glasgow. C.3.

    Employees

    Mr. G. H. Bone, Amalgamated Engineering Union, 110 Peckham Road, London, S.E.15.
    Mr. A. M. Evans, Transport and General Workers Union, Transport House, Smith Square, London, S.W.1.
    Mr. D. O. Gladwin, General and Municipal Workers Union. Ruxley Towers, Claygate, Esher, Surrey.
    Mr. C. Jenkins, General Secretary, Association of Supervisory Staffs, Executives and Technicians, 2–4 Homerton High Street, London, E.9.
    Mr. A. F. Sherman, Assistant General Secretary, British Air Line Pilots Association, 81 New Road, Harlington, Middlesex.
    Mr. T. Thomas, Assistant General Secretary, Clerical and Administrative Workers Union, 70 St. George's Square, London, W.1.
    Mr. L. T. Williams, Amalgamated Society of Woodworkers, 9–11 Macaulay Road, Clapham, London, S.W.4.
    Mr. M. Young, Electrical Trades Union, Hayes Court, West Common Road, Hayes, Bromley, Kent.

    Educational

    Mr. S. T. Broad, M.A., County Education Officer. Hertfordshire County Council, County Hall, Hertford.
    Mr. R. L. Helmore, B.Sc., F.I.E.E., M.B.I.M., J.P. Principal, St. Albans College of Further Education, 29 Hatfield Road, St. Albans, Herts.
    Mr. C. N. Hoy. M.I.N., Chief Technical Tutor, College of Air Training, Hamble, Hants.
    Mr. G. Smith, C. Eng., A.M.I.Mech.E., A.F.R.Ae.S., A.M.S.L.A.E.T., Senior Lecturer, Southall College of Technology, Private address: 48 Cranford Lane, Heston, Hounslow, Middlesex.
    Mr. W. H. Stebbings, M.Inst.T., A.C.I.S., Head of the Shipping and Commercial Products Department, City of London College, Moorgate, London, E.C.2.

    Transport Salaried Workers Union (Communication)

    asked the Minister of Labour on what date he received a communication from the Transport Salaried Workers Union concerning the transfer of the Finance Department from Newcastle-on-Tyne to York; and what reply he sent and on what date.

    I have been unable to establish that any such communication has been received by this Ministry.

    Diplomatic Privileges And Immunity

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what was the total number of persons

    PERSONS ENTITLED TO VARYING DEGREES OF DIPLOMATIC PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITY IN DIPLOMATIC MISSIONS IN LONDON
    March, 1945March, 1967
    MissionEntitled staffTotal including wivesEntitled staffTotal including wives
    Afghanistan7746
    Argentine31372543
    Belgium30424378
    Bolivia46610
    Brazil28334359
    Bulgaria (see below)
    Chile26311322
    China51657887
    Colombia7859
    Cuba68916
    Czechoslovakia273776132
    Denmark27364869
    Dominican Republic33610
    Ecuador2348
    Egypt (in 1967 U.A.R. Interests Section)21215275
    Ethiopia3369
    Finland (see below)
    France2744181257
    Germany (see below)
    Greece25312537
    Guatemala23(Diplomatic relations broken)
    Hungary (see below)
    Iceland6746
    Iran19263658
    Iraq13144357
    Italy (see below)
    Japan (see below)
    Lebanon81057
    Liberia55812
    Luxembourg1224
    Mexico10121316
    Nepal252568
    Netherlands232798147
    Nicaragua1123
    Norway25324359
    Panama2357
    Paraguay2357
    Peru7111119
    Poland48615795
    Portugal10132436
    Rumania (see below)
    Saudi Arabia881523
    Siam (see below)
    Soviet Union163208134232
    Spain41526691
    Sweden47573453
    Switzerland39514968
    Syria661522
    Thailand (see below)
    Turkey35453460
    U.S.A.359375303465
    Uruguay3669
    Venezuela332841
    Yugoslavia33413250
    1,2751,5301,7042,586

    enjoying diplomatic immunity in 1945 in each mission; and what are the numbers today enjoying such privileges in the same or equivalent missions.

    March, 1945

    March, 1967

    Mission

    Entitled staff

    Total including wives

    Entitled staff

    Total including wives

    Bulgaria

    *

    47603051
    Germany139199
    Italy87123
    Japan4987
    Siam (now Thailand)3660
    Finland

    10102333
    Hungary3355
    Rumania4784
    1,3321,6102,1483,278

    * Interests safeguarded by Swiss Embassy in 1945.

    Interests safeguarded by Swedish Embassy in 1945.

    Note:

    The figures are not strictly comparable. In 1945 all staff, including servants employed in Chanceries and Residences (even if British Subjects) enjoyed full imunity from jurisdiction. Under the Diplomatic Privileges Act 1964, full immunity is limited to diplomatic staff, administrative staffs and service staffs receive a lower degree of immunity; and British subjects and private servants have no entitlement at all to immunity. Countries which have attained independence since 1945 are not, of course, included in this list.

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what immunities are given to heads of foreign diplomatic missions and their staffs; whether he will give a list of those persons who enjoy such immunities from taxation and legal proceedings; and what is the total number in each year since 1946.

    I have placed in the Library of the House a copy of an explanatory memorandum on Her Majesty's Government's practice as regards immunities and privileges. Broadly speaking diplomatic agents have full immunity, administrative and technical staff have full immunity, except in relation to private civil matters, and service staff immunity only in respect of official acts.I have placed lists of entitled persons in the Library of the House.Totals of entitled diplomatic staff, including staff of Commonwealth Missions, have been given to hon. Members as:

    19533,945
    19554,034
    19574,260
    19584,349
    19594,284
    19604,256
    19614,514
    19624,689
    19634,748
    19654,566
    19664,482

    Further figures are not readily available, and those before 1952 would not provide a comparison because until 1952, there was no legal basis for the grant of

    immunities to members of Commonwealth Missions and no lists of such members were complied. The 1950 total for staff of foreign diplomatic Missions was 1,704.

    Wales

    Derelict Land (Reclamation)

    56.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will introduce legislation to amend Section 9 of the Local Government Act 1966 so as to enable 100 per cent. specific grants to be payable to local authorities for the reclamation of derelict land in Wales, in particular for the removal of slag-heaps, coal-heaps and industrial waste-heaps; and if he will make a statement.

    No. That provision has only just been introduced and further legislation is not contemplated at this stage. Most of the waste heaps in Wales are in the Development Area to which the provisions of the Industrial Development Act 1966 apply.

    Local Government

    Derelict Land (Reclamation)

    57.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to amend Section 9 of the Local Government Act 1966 so as to enable 100 per cent. specific grants to be payable to local authorities for the reclamation of derelict land in England, in particular for the removal of slag-heaps, coal-heaps and industrial waste-heaps; and if he will make a statement.

    No. I think that the rates of grant, which are 85 per cent. in development areas, 75 per cent. in national parks and areas of outstanding natural beauty, and 50 per cent. elsewhere, are reasonable.

    Third London Airport

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he hopes to publish the report on the third London airport; and if he will make a statement.

    The report will be published as soon as the Government have reached a decision.

    Town Planning (Appeal Procedure)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what progress has been made in considering changes in town planning appeal procedure; and whether he will make a statement.

    Good progress is being made on this matter; my right hon. Friend hopes to make a statement after the Easter Recess.

    River Tees (Croft Weir Scheme)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, prior to his decision to grant permission for the construction of a weir on the River Tees at Croft, he made inquiries to ascertain whether the water requirements of Imperial Chemical Industries were realistic and whether the company was using water as efficiently as possible; and what consideration he gave to the view of his inspector that water should not be taken from the river at Croft, unless the need was overriding.

    My right hon. Friend took the decision on the evidence produced at the two public inquiries. This satisfied him that the need for the additional water was established. He gave full consideration to the reports of both inspectors and came to the conclusion that the Croft scheme should be allowed to proceed.

    Rate Support Grant, Wales

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what amount of rate support grant he proposes to give Welsh local authorities for the year 1967–68.

    I have been asked to reply.The amounts of the three elements of rate support grant payable to individual local authorities cannot be finally determined until after the conclusion of the year concerned when final information is available about the factors, such as population, expenditure and domestic rate products, on which the distribution of the grant depends. The provisional totals for Welsh local authorities for the year 1967–68 are as follows:—

    £m.
    Needs element66·4
    Resources element27·4
    Domestic element0·9
    Total94·7

    Housing

    New Permanent Dwellings

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will set out in the Official Report a table showing the total number of people moving into new permanent dwellings in each year in Great Britain for each of the years 1951 to 1966 inclusive, showing also separate figures for the public and private sectors, respectively.

    Local Authority Completions

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many local housing authorities completed more than 500, and how many more than 1,000 houses in 1966; how many houses per thousand population this figure represented in each case; and which of the housing authorities achieving this level of performance have been named by him as eligible to receive the back-dated housing subsidies.

    Fifty-three local housing authorities in England completed more than 500 dwellings in 1966 and seventeen of these completed more than 1,000. The rates per thousand population (excluding the Greater London Council) were 4·51 and 5·21 respectively.The authorities completing more than 500 dwellings in 1966 which are eligible to receive the back-dated housing subsidies, under Clause 1(3)

    (c) of the Housing Subsidies Bill, are as follows:—

    Northern Region

    • Gateshead C.B.

    Yorkshire and Humberside Region

    • Bradford C.B.
    • Kingston-upon-Hull C.B.
    • Sheffield C.B.

    North-West Region

    • Stockport C.B.
    • Oldham C.B.
    • Rochdale C.B.
    • Liverpool C.B.
    • Manchester C.B.
    • Salford C.B.

    West Midland Region

    • Warley C.B.
    • Birmingham C.B.

    South-West Region

    • Plymouth C.B.

    East Anglia Region

    • King's Lynn M.B.

    South-East Region

    • Greater London Council
    • Camden L.B.
    • Greenwich L.B.
    • Hammersmith L.B.
    • Southwark L.B.
    • Wandsworth L.B.

    Flats For The Disabled

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many local authorities have now incorporated the recommendations contained in his Department's Circular 54/64, Flats for the Disabled, in the ground floors of their new blocks of flats built or planned.

    I regret that this information is not available. But I have no reason to think that local authorities are reluctant to accept the advice given in the circular; and the Department's architects are very willing to advise on the subject when the occasion arises.I will gladly look into the circumstances of any specific case the hon. Member has in mind.

    Home Department

    Roberts Arundel, Stockport (Disturbance)

    58.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for reports from the chief constables concerned stating how many police officers were engaged in controlling the serious disturbance that occurred outside the works of Roberts Arundel in Chester-gate, Stockport, on 22nd February, 1967, and from which forces they came.

    I am informed that 80 officers of the Stockport police force, 70 officers of the Manchester force and 30 officers of the Cheshire constabulary were engaged in dealing with this disturbance.

    Petrol Tanker (Accident)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will cause an investigation to be made into why on Friday, 17th February, a petrol tanker driven by Mr. Gerald Markey broke down in Stratford High Street, E.15, causing petrol to pour into the road, causing a collision and reducing traffic flow to a single line for over one hour: how many police and firemen were in attendance; and what information he has about the state of repair of the vehicle.

    I understand the tanker stopped because a shackle pin broke. Whilst it was stationary it was struck by another vehicle. The rear compartment of the tank was fractured and about 80 gallons of xylene spilled on to the road. Essential safety precautions, including traffic control, occupied the police and fire service for about two hours. Altogether 8 police and 14 firemen were in attendance. There is no evidence that the tanker had not been satisfactorily maintained.

    Education And Science

    Comprehensive Schools, Bristol (Books And Equipment)

    60.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received from Bristol Corporation concerning inadequate financial provision for books and equipment in comprehensive schools in the city and county; and what reply he has sent.

    Overseas Students

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will state the numbers of students from overseas in United Kingdom universities and colleges of higher education, and those from the United Kingdom, for each of the years from 1964 to 1967.

    The number of overseas students and United Kingdom students on full-time and sandwich courses at United Kingdom universities and colleges of further education in the academic years 1964–65 and 1965–66 were as follows:

    OverseasU.K.
    1964–6531,366323,745
    1965–6632,548353,298
    Complete figures for the academic year 1966–67 are not yet available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many overseas students studied in this country during the last year for which figures are available what is the ratio of overseas students to domes- tic students; and what percentage of overseas students came from Asia and Africa and what percentage from the United States of America and Europe.

    In 1965–66, there were 32,548 overseas students attending full-time and sandwich courses at universities and colleges of further education (8·5 per cent. of all such students). Just over 70 per cent. of these overseas students came from Asia and Africa, and 17 per cent. from Europe and the United States. The remaining 13 per cent. came from other countries.

    Studley College

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the number of successes of students at Studley College and the comparison with other similar colleges.

    The information is as follows:

    DAIRYING
    A.—National Diploma in Dairying
    Studley CollegePercentage of Passes
    YearCandidatesDiplomas awardedStudley CollegeEngland and Wales: all further education establishments
    196415117383
    196519157984
    196613 96973
    HORTICULTURE
    B.—National Diploma in Horticulture (Intermediate Examination), 1966
    CandidatesPasses
    Studley College 1 0
    England and Wales: all further education establishments3415

    Welsh Language Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he proposes to take in regard to those Welsh education authorities which have failed to take bilingual education into account in the plans they have prepared in response to Circular 10/65.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply to him on this subject of 23 February.—[Vol.741, c.325.] I am satisfied all local education authorities in whose areas there is sufficient demand from parents to warrant the establishment of a Welsh secondary school of satisfactory size have already taken bilingual education into account in their plans under Circular 10/65.

    Computers

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list the computers in use in each university, college of education, college of further education, technical college and

    TABLE A—COMPUTERS IN UNIVERSITIES*
    InstitutionType of ComputerManufacturer
    England
    Aston University in BirminghamElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Bath University of TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Birmingham UniversityKDF 9English Electric Leo-Marconi(E.E. L.M)
    Bradford UniversityZebraStandard Telephones and Cables Ltd.
    ICT 1909International Computer & Tabulators Ltd
    Bristol UniversityElliott 503Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Brunel UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Cambridge UniversityAtlasI.C.T
    City UniversityPegasusFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    I.C.T. 1905I.C.T.
    Durham UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Essex UniversityI.C.T. 1909Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Exeter UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Hull UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Keele UniversityIBM 1620International Business Machines(IBM)
    Lancaster UniversityICT 1909I.C.T.
    Leeds UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    Leicester UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Liverpool UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    London University:
    Chelsea College of Science & TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Imperial College of Science & TechnologyAtlasFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    University CollegeIBM 7090I.B.M.
    Loughborough University of TechnologyIBM 1620I.B.M.
    Argus 104Ferranti (now I.C.T.)
    ICT 1905I.C.T.
    Manchester UniversityAtlasFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    Manchester University Institute of Science & Technology.ArgusFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    Newcastle-upon-Tyne UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    Nottingham UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    Oxford UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    Reading UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Salford Royal College of Advanced Technology.KDFE.E.L.M.
    Sheffield UniversityMercuryFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    Southampton UniversityPegassFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    ICT 1907I.C.T.
    Surrey UniversityElliott 503Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Surrey UniversitySiriusFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    Sussex UniversityICT 1905I.C.T.
    Wales
    University of Wales:
    AberystwythIBM 1620I.B.M.
    BangorElliot 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    CardiffZebraStandard Telephones & Cables Ltd
    SwanseaIBM 1620I.B.M.
    ICT 1905I.C.T.
    Welsh College of Advanced TechnologyZebraStandard Telephones & Cables Ltd.
    Elliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.

    secondary school showing the name of the educational establishment, the name of the manufacturer and the type of computer.

    Following is the information in respect of universities and establishments of further education. Comparable information is not available in respect of schools and colleges of education.

    Institution

    Type of Computer

    Manufacturer

    Scotland

    Aberdeen UniversityElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Edinburgh UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    (pending delivery of Systems 4)
    Glasgow UniversityKDF 9E.E.L.M.
    Heriot-Watt UniversitySiriusFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    St. Andrews UniversityIBM 1620I.B.M.
    ZebraStandard Telephones & Cables Ltd.
    Strathclyde UniversitySiriusFerranti (now I.C.T.)
    ICT 1905I.C.T.

    *This list, which details the main computers known to the University Grants Committee to be in use with universities in Great Britain does not include computers provided for departmental use.

    Manchester University Institute of Science & Technology, Nottingham University, and Edinburgh University each has a link with Manchester University's Atlas.

    TABLE B
    COMPUTERS IN ESTABLISHMENTS OF FURTHER EDUCATION (ENGLAND AND WALES) INSTALLATIONS APPROVED UNDER THE FURTHER EDUCATION (LOCAL EDUCATION AUTHORITY) REGULATIONS

    College

    Type

    Manufacturer

    Derbyshire

    Derby & District College of TechnologyI.B.M. Computer SystemInternational Business Machines (I.B.M.)

    Devon

    Plymouth College of TechnologyP.D.S. 1020Pacific Data System (subsidiary of Electronic Associates)

    Durham

    Sunderland Technical CollegeElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.

    Gloucestershire

    Bristol College of CommerceI.C.T. 1202International Computers and Tabulators (I.C.T.)
    The North Gloucestershire Technical College, CheltenhamI.C.T. 1901I.C.T.

    Hampshire

    Portsmouth College of TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Southampton College of TechnologyIBM 1130I.B.M.

    Hertfordshire

    Hatfield College of TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.

    Huntingdonshire and Peterborough

    Peterborough Technical CollegeZebraStandard Telephones

    Kent

    Medway College of TechnologyMCS 920Elliott Automation Ltd.

    Lancashire

    Liverpool College of TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Manchester, John Dalton College of TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Oldham Municipal Technical CollegeSiriusFerranti (now I.C.T.)

    Leicestershire

    Leicester Regional College of TechnologyZebraStandard Telephones
    Honeywell H.200Honeywell

    London (Greater)

    Croydon Technical CollegeICT 1201I.C.T.
    Northern Polytechnic—IslingtonElliott 4100Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Kington-upon-Thames College of TechnologyElliott 4100Elliott Automation Ltd.
    The Polytechnic, Regent StreetIBM 1620I.B.M.
    West Ham College of TechnologyPegasus 1Ferranti (now I.C.T.)
    IBM 1130I.B.M.
    Woolwich PolytechnicSiriusFerranti (now I.C.T.)

    Enfield College of TechnologyIBM 144I.B.M.
    Honeywell H.120Honeywell
    Barking College of TechnologyElliott 4100Elliott Automation Ltd.
    North Western PolytechnicUnivac US 80Univac
    Twickenham Technical CollegeElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.

    Northamptonshire

    Northampton College of TechnologyICT 1202I.C.T.

    College

    Type

    Manufacturer

    Northumberland

    Rutherford College of Technology, NewcastleI.B.M. 1620 Mk. III.B.M.

    Staffordshire

    The Chance Technology College, WarleyICT 1202I.C.T.
    Staffordshire College of TechnologyDuece (2)English Electric
    Wolverhampton & Staffordshire College of TechnologyIBM 1620 Mk. III.B.M.

    Sussex

    Brighton College of TechnologyICT 1301I.C.T.
    IBM 1402I.B.M.

    Warwickshire

    Rugby College of Engineering in TechnologyElliott 803BElliott Automation Ltd.
    Lanchester College of Technology, CoventryElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd.

    Yorkshire (E. R.)

    Kingston upon Hull College of TechnologyICT 1202 (1)I.C.T.

    Yorkshire (N.R.)

    Constantine College of Technology, MiddlesbroughIBM 1620 Mk. III.B.M.

    Yorkshire (W.R.)

    Huddersfield College of TechnologyElliott 4120Elliott Automation Ltd.
    Sheffield College of TechnologyIBM 1130I.B.M.
    Leeds College of TechnologyICT 1901I.C.T.

    Wales

    Glamorgan College of Technology, TreforestIBM 1130I.B.M.
    Newport & Monmouthshire College of TechnologyElliott 803Elliott Automation Ltd. Technology

    Science Research Council Awards

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will state the number of suitably qualified applicants for Science Research Council studentships for work towards a higher degree in each of the years 1962 to 1966, and the number of studentships awarded.

    Science Research Council awards are provided for research training or an approved course of postgraduate instruction. They are not primarily for the purpose of obtaining a higher degree, although such a degree or diploma is usually awarded.The numbers are:

    YearQualified ApplicantsAwards made
    1962–631,623*1,610
    1963–641,968*1,932
    1964–652,5672,507
    1965–662,9282,785
    1966–673,0962,775
    *These figures include a number of qualified applicants who withdrew their applications before an award was made.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will consider lowering the qualification for a Science Research Council award in order to enable applicants, considered suitable by a university or college but having only a lower second-class honours degree, to receive an award.

    No. There are two levels of qualification for Science Research Council awards. For a Research Studentship a candidate must normally have a first class honours or upper second class honours degree. For an Advanced Course Studentship a candidate with a lower second class honours degree is eligible. In both these categories the Council is prepared to consider alternative qualifications, or a combination of qualifications and experience provided that they demonstrate equivalent ability.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in view of the shortage of scientists, he will make available enough Science Research Council postgraduate awards to ensure that no suitably qualified applicant lacks the opportunity to engage in research towards a higher degree.

    No. In 1966 the number of research and advanced course studentships awarded by the Science Research Council (S.R.C.) was about 18 per cent. of the number graduating in that year and this provided support for about half the total number of postgraduate students in science and technology.I am advised that the proportion of scientists who now receive postgraduate training is about right. Further studies are in progress on the postgraduate training best suited to current national requirements. In recent years the S.R.C. has been especially encouraging research and advanced training in technology which has the greatest need for highly trained manpower. Recent policy of the Council has been to encourage more new graduates to go into industry in order to gain some experience before returning to University for postgraduate studies.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will state the number of Science Research Council post-doctoral fellowships awarded in each of the years 1962–66; and if he will increase the number of fellowships available, and the value of the award, in view of the growing numbers of British scientists taking up similar fellowships in other countries, especially the United States of America.

    The numbers of Science Research Council (S.R.C.) post-doctoral Research Fellowships awarded in each of the years 1962–66 are as follows:—

    Academic YearSRC Fellowships tenable in UKNATO* and SRC Fellowships tenable abroadSRC Fellowships awarded to British scientists in N. America to enable them to return to the UkTotal
    1962–6348281692
    1963–6444182082
    1964–65522732111
    1965–66832541149
    1966–67542641121
    * NATO Fellowships are awarded by the S.R.C. on behalf of NATO, as a result of the UK's participation in the NATO Science Fellowships Programme.
    In 1966 all candidates who applied and were considered to be qualified received a Fellowship. A proposal by the Science Research Council to increase the value of Fellowship awards is being considered in relation to relevant aspects of incomes policy.

    Secondary Schools, Brentwood

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will now inquire into the delay of the local education authority to produce plans for the reorganisation of Brentwood's secondary schools in response to Circular 10/65.

    The Brentwood proposals are under active consideration by the Essex Education Authority and I expect to receive them later this year.

    School Milk And Meals, Wales

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the total of the grant paid to Welsh local authorities in 1966–67 towards the cost of milk and meals in schools.

    I have been asked to reply.£5·2 mill on for meals and £0·8 million for milk.

    Fulbright Scholarships

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is aware that as a result of Her Majesty's Government's decision to increase fees for overseas students in Great Britain the number of Fulbright scholarships for British students has been cut; and whether he will now take further steps to remedy the situation.

    The funds available for the payment of travel grants to British students has been reduced by the United State-United Kingdom Educational Commission, with whom decisions on the use of their funds rest.

    Teachers, Wales

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in view of he need for 104 teachers in Cardiff and 82 in Glamorgan, what steps he is taking to ensure that a larger part of the output of trained teachers from Welsh colleges of education obtain posts in Wales.

    Authorities are at liberty to recruit as many teachers as they wish within the limit of the quota. My right hon. Friend has had to ask all authorities both in England and Wales to accept a small reduction of their quota pupil-teacher standards during 1967. But authorities can augment their staff with teachers off the quota including married women returners and part-time teachers. Both the authorities mentioned at present employ substantially fewer part-time teachers than the average of authorities in England and Wales.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    European Economic Community (Marketing Boards)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether agricultural marketing boards such as the Milk Marketing Board, the Wool Board and the Egg and Potato Marketing Boards could be continued in their present form in the event of Great Britain entering the European Economic Community.

    This would depend on the arrangements agreed for an enlarged Community. It is possible that not all the current activities of the Boards would be considered compatible with existing E.E.C. rules; but it would be unduly speculative to attempt any assessment on the basis of the present Community's policy towards marketing organisations, which has not yet taken final shape.

    Commonwealth Affairs

    Ghana (Settlement Of Debts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will give particulars of the bilateral agreement recently reached between Her Majesty's Government and Ghana over the settlement of debts.

    The Agreement, signed in Accra on 27th February, gives formal expression to the proposals of the multilateral meeting held in London in December, 1966.It covers more than £25 million of debt due to British exporters up to the end of 1968 under credits of one to twelve years maturity arising from con- tracts concluded before 24th February, 1966 for the supply of goods and services to Ghana. Twenty per cent. of the debt will be paid by the end of 1968; the payment of the remaining eighty per cent. will be spread over eight years from mid-1971, beginning with 2·7 per cent. in the Ghana financial year ending 30th June, 1972, and continuing in rising annual amounts up to mid-1979. Interest will be paid half-yearly on the deferred amounts at rates determined by provisions where they exist, in the contracts concerned and otherwise at the present appropriate rate for British Government credit. The Agreement will be published as a Command Paper.

    Ministry Of Defence

    Ammunition And Explosives

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give further details of the use to which £49,500,000 worth of ammunition and explosives referred to on page 138 of the Defence Estimates, 1967–68, will be put; how much of it will be sold to other countries; and why the amount is being increased by more than 25 per cent. compared with 1966–67.

    The sum of £49,500,000 refers to the total manufacturing costs of ammunition and explosives produced by the Army Department for the three Services and for sale to overseas countries. It includes the costs of purchase of basic materials and components, as well as the cost of assembly and filling of complete rounds of ammunition and bombs. Requirements of the three Services accounts for some £41·0 million for ammunition and bombs for training purposes and to build up operational reserves; and £2·5 million is for the purchase of basic materials, such as explosives and propellants not yet made up into ammunition and not therefore at this stage attributable to individual items. The remaining £6·0 million is for production for sale to other countries.The increase of £10·8 million over the 1966–67 figure is made up of increased production expenditure of £8·0 million for the requirements of the Services, £1·5 million for sale to other countries and the remaining £1·3 million for increase, purchases of basic materials. The increased production for the Services is to help to build up reserves to authorised levels and to provide training stocks for new weapons being introduced.

    Water (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give further details of the estimate of £1,620,000 to

    CountryAmountEstimated Consumption ('000 gallons)Average cost per 1,000 gallons
    ££s.d.
    United Kingdom589,0004,620,0000 26·6
    B.A.O.R.612,0003,000,500040·9
    Far East268,0002,700,0000111·8
    Malta11,00076,000029·3
    Libya5,00029,000037·2
    Cyprus10,00040,000050
    Gibraltar:
    Drinking5652851 197·7
    Brackish3,435
    Aden107,000428,000050
    Persian Gulf:
    Drinking only remainder free10,0005201980
    Kenya (Battken and Silver Sands Leave Centre)4,00014,300056
    Total£1,620,000
    Anticipated recoveries from the sale of water: £100,000(Vote 6Z3)

    Traffic Accidents, Training, And Losses And Damage To Kit

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give further details of the estimated expenditure of £1,440,000 on compensation for losses, damage, &c., under the headings of traffic accidents, training and losses and damage to kit.

    Following is the information:—

    £
    Traffic Accidents675,000
    Training691,000
    Losses and damage to kit2,600
    Other miscellaneous claims including industrial accidents and certain ex gratia and regulational payments71,400

    Statement On Defence Estimates (Headquarters Receipts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an analysis of the principal items which make up headquarters receipts in Table 2 of Appendix H of the Defence White Paper.

    The forecast of £82 million Headquarters receipts for 1967–68 shown in the Statement on be spent on water by the Army in 1967–68; and if he will give the approximate average water rate paid in each country where this money is spent.

    Details are as follows. The figures relate to purchases and do not include water obtained from installations owned by Ministry of Defence or Ministry of Public Building and Works:—Defence Estimates is made up of £49 million for arms sales (SDE page 53) and £33 million on invisible account. Of the latter, about £12 million represents receipts from the United States Government for their forces in the United Kingdom, £4·5 million is the contribution of the Hong Kong Government towards the stationing costs of British forces, about £8 million is receipts on account of research and development, and the balance represents miscellaneous receipts for a wide range of services.

    Discharges

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will institute an inquiry into the present machinery for discharges from the Services.

    My right hon. Friend does not consider that such an inquiry is necessary.

    Official Cars (Foreign Manufacture)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if any officials cars used by Army or Royal Air Force officers in the British Army of the Rhine are of foreign manufacture; and what proportion they form of the total establishment of cars.

    In B.A.O.R. and R.A.F. Germany, 10 cars out of a total establishment of 1,979 are of foreign manufacture.

    Animals And Scavenging And Conservancy Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what animals, and how many, are included in Army Vote 6(C)(2) of the Defence Estimates, 1967–68; and if he will give further details of the scavenging and conservancy services.

    Animals

    Provision is made for the purchase of 62 horses, 120 bullocks, 24 mules, 202 dogs, 1 sheep and 24 chickens. Anticipated recoveries (Vote 6Z3) from the sale of bullocks, cast animals, etc., are £14,500.

    2. Scavenging and Conservancy

    A sum of £1,722,830 is included for scavenging and conservancy services, as follows:—

    £
    Refuse and salvage collection, sewage and sullage control, road sweeping and drain cleaning, etc.960,000
    Cleaning of junior ranks clubs510,000
    Contract cleaning of certain Barracks, Hospitals and Offices96,580
    Window cleaning87,250
    Chimney sweeping60,500
    Pest control and purchase of fertilisers8,500
    Total£1,722,830

    Anticipated recoveries (Vote 6Z3) amount to £100,500.

    Under-Secretaries Of State (Title)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the interests of brevity, he will omit the words "for defence" from the title of the three Under-Secretaries of State in his Department.

    Returning Overseas Forces

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many of the military personnel to be brought back from Germany and Malta to the United Kingdom are to be accommodated in Scotland; and whether he will consult the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Scottish Tourist Board, as well as other interested parties. to ensure that temporary camps are so situated and planned that they can at a later date be converted to tourist holiday camps.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my Answer to the hon. Member for Galloway (Mr. Brewis) on 1st March.—[Vol. 742, c. 90.] No decision has yet been taken to withdraw troops from Germany.Accommodation must be provided at or near existing military sites; but my right hon. Friend will certainly bear in mind the hon. Member's suggestion.

    Long-Term Service Contracts (Young Recruits)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will end longterm service contracts for recruits under the age of 18 years, or, failing this, if he will allow a discharge option at the age of 21 years.

    I am looking at this problem. It raises a number of issues, the most important being the manning requirements of the Services. I shall announce the outcome of my investigations when they have been completed.

    Storage Of Explosives (Ditton Priors To Cleobury Road)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether any explosives brought to the former Admiralty depot at Ditton Priors, Shropshire, are stored either for long or short periods in immediate proximity to the highway; and whether he is satisfied that storage of such explosives alongside a public highway complies with the explosive storage regulations.

    Explosives on trailers awaiting unloading are held for short periods in two areas by the road from Ditton Priors to North Cleobury. This is permitted by the regulations; but I am having new arrangements made.

    Naval Command

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, in view of the general anxiety in the South-West, he will make a statement on the future of the Naval Command.

    We are working to achieve a simplified system of Naval Command at home in which the command of ships and sea areas is the responsibility of a single major operational commander—the Commander-in-Chief Home Fleet—and the administrative and training aspects are brought together under a second major commander—the Commander-in-Chief Portsmouth. The implications are still being worked out and I am not prepared to make a statement at this stage.

    Hms "Tiger"

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what action is being taken in regard to the future of H.M.S. "Tiger".

    It is intended to hold H.M.S. "Tiger" temporarily in reserve until she can be brought forward for conversion. She will be taken in hand as soon as possible, as already announced, to enable her to follow H.M.S. "Blake" into commission in 1969.

    Research And Development

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the total value of research in the defence field for the years 1964–65 and 1965–66.

    The total value of research and development in the defence field for the years 1964–65 and 1965–66 was £255 million and £266 million, respectively Within these totals about one-fifth of the expenditure was on research.

    Economic Affairs

    South-West Economic Planning Council

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will take into account Table 126 of the Hundred and Ninth Report of the Inland Revenue for the year ended 31st March, 1966. which indicates that Cornwall has the lowest wages and incomes in the South-Western Region, when next he appoints members to the South-West Regional Economic Development Council where Cornwall is at present under-represented.

    No. This information, while of interest, has no relevance to the appointment of members to the South-West Economic Planning Council. As I explained in my answer to the hon. Member's Questions on 9th February—[Vol. 712, c. 1816–17]—members of the Economic Planning Council are not appointed on a representative basis but on account of the contribution they can make as individuals to planning for the region as a whole.

    Steel Industry (Private Sector)

    asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether the Industrial Reorganisation Corporation is investigating the private sector of the steel industry.

    The Corporation is discussing with the companies concerned, and other interested parties, in what ways in might help to bring about the rationalisation of the sector of the steel industry which is to remain in private ownership.

    Overseas Development

    Technical Assistance (British Experts)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development what support he has given to the United Nations and other international organisations in providing the services of British experts for their programmes of technical assistance in developing countries.

    The International Recruitment Unit of the Ministry has in the last three years provided an increasing number of the experts required by international organisations. In 1966 the total of those appointed was 194, a 25 per cent. increase over the previous year. There was also over fifty known cases of experts originally recruited by the Unit who were independently appointed by the Agency concerned to a subsequent assignment.With one exception, all the more important international agencies for which the Ministry recruits appointed an increased number of officially nominated British candidates in 1966.

    Telephone Service

    Initial Rental Payment

    asked the Postmaster-General what effects his decision to increase the initial rental payments for telephones has had on demand for new installations; whether he is satisfied that this system is working equitably; and when he expects to return to the previous pattern of payments.

    The effect of increasing the initial payment from three to twelve months' rental in advance cannot be isolated from the other factors affecting the demand for telephones. This is a general measure and it is applied impartially. The position will be reviewed as and when circumstances permit.

    Welsh Language

    asked the Postmaster-General (1) what facilities there are for monoglot Welshmen to make calls and seek information through exchanges in Wales;(2) what steps he is taking to prevent the delay and difficulty sometimes experienced by those asking for a number in Welsh:(3) how many operators in exchanges in Wales speak Welsh fluently;(4) whether he will instruct operators in Wales in areas with 50 per cent. or more Welsh-speaking people to say number please in Welsh.

    Instructions in Welsh on how to make a telephone call are displayed in telephone kiosks in Wales, and, apart from places where little Welsh is spoken, all exchanges in Wales have some Welsh-speaking operators. Arrangements are made to deal with calls and inquiries from monoglot Welshmen specially, but this is rarely necessary. Of 2,000 operators in exchanges in Wales and Monmouthshire approximately 370 speak Welsh. I do not consider that the number of callers unable to speak English justifies instructing all operators in predominently Welsh-speaking areas how to say number please in Welsh.

    Post Office

    Cornwall (Stamp)

    asked the Postmaster-General whether, in commemoration of St. Piran's Day on Sunday, 5th March, he will give consideration to the production of a Cornish stamp, Cornwall being the only Celtic country in the United Kingdom which is without its own postage stamp.

    Executive And Senior Executive Engineers

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will now reopen negotiations with the Society of Post Office Engineers in respect of their claim on behalf of executive engineers and senior executive engineers whose salaries have effectively been frozen since January 1965.

    Ministry Of Power

    Special And Alloy Steel Production

    asked the Minister of Power (1) what discussions he is holding with the Steel Industry Organising Committee or with the Industrial Reorganisation Corporation on the possibility of rationalising the production of special and alloy steels, including production by companies due to come into public ownership under the Iron and Steel Bill under private ownership;(2) whether the Organising Committee for the Steel Industry is considering the rationalisation of special and alloy steel production.

    The Organising Committee are taking into account the problems of special and alloy steel production in their work on the reorganisation of the future public sector. I am keeping in close touch with them. Questions about the I.R.C. are for my right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State.

    Scotland

    Gravediggers (Wages)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that the White Paper on the Period of Severe Restraint on Wages had the effect of depriving gravediggers in Scotland of a 5 per cent. rise in wages in January, 1967; and what steps he is taking to protect such lower-paid workers in Scotland from the effects of the policy, in view of the fact that their earnings are not supplemented by payment for overtime or by gratuities.

    The earnings of gravediggers, as of other local authority manual workers, are at present being con-

    MenWomenAdditional Force
    ActualAuthorisedActualAuthorisedAciualAuthorised
    CITY AND BURGH FORCES
    Aberdeen3413581010
    Airdrie626422
    Ayr10510844
    Coatbridge9510266
    Dundee31837710141010
    Edinburgh1,0971,22645484545
    Glasgow2,5612,9588498
    Greenock152160882121
    Hamilton878755
    Inverness606212
    Kilmarnock10611188
    Motherwell14214478
    Paisley19520178
    Totals5,3215,9581972217676
    COUNTY AND COMBINED FORCES
    Angus16017656
    Argyll12112067
    Ayr35636312151822
    Berwick, Roxburgh and Selkirk15015445
    Caithness515044
    Dumfries and Galloway199229610
    Dunbarton344362151555
    Fife5626023238
    Inverness11311299
    Lanark5275942525
    Lothians and Peebles4094361111
    Orkney242511
    Perth and Kinross24825877
    Renfrew and Bute3043231515
    Ross and Sutherland12513136
    Scottish North-Eastern Counties33233066
    Stirling and Clackmannan3693981313
    Zetland2021
    Total (Counties)4,4144,6841741932327
    Total (Burghs)5,3215,9581972217676
    GRAND TOTALS9,73510,64237141499103

    Note: Where actual strength exceeds authorised establishment this is due to approved secondments and/or central service. The additional force is employed on duties in industrial premises and expenditure on it is fully reimbursed by the occupier.

    Geriatric Beds, Ayrshire And Wigtownshire

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the present shortage of geriatric beds in Ayrshire, based on a standard of 15 per 1,000 population; what will be the shortage if

    sidered by the National Board for Prices and Incomes, which is expected to report soon.

    Police Forces

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the latest figures showing the actual and authorised establishments of Scottish police forces.

    At 31st January, 1967, the actual and authorised establishments of Scottish police forces were as follows:Glenafton Hospital closes; and how this compares with Wigtownshire.

    With the closure of Glenafton Hospital, the County of Ayrshire is some 22 geriatric beds short of the number required on the standard of 15 beds per 1,000 population over age 65. On the same standard the County of Wigtownshire is some 8 beds short.

    Technology

    Prevention Of Pollution Of The Sea By Oil (Convention)

    asked the Minister of Technology if he will give a list of maritime countries which have and have not, respectively, ratified the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution of the Sea by Oil, 1954.

    The following countries have ratified the Convention:—United Kingdom, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, German Federal Republic, Ireland, Italy, Liberia, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Poland, United States of America, Kuwait, Iceland, Ghana, Australia, United Arab Republic, Jordan, Dominican Republic, Panama, Philippines, Venezuela, Algeria, Spain, Madagascar, Israel, Switzerland.The following signatory countries have not yet ratified the Convention:—Ceylon, Greece, Japan, NewZealand, U.S.S.R., Yugoslavia.

    Advanced Battery Systems

    asked the Minister of Technology what research he is conducting into the development of zinc/air and other types of battery with improved storage capacity and lower weight-to-energy ratios than existing designs; and if he will state the budgeted expenditure on this work in the year 1967–68.

    pursuant to his reply [OFFICIAL REPORT, 28th February, 1967; Vol. 742, c. 238–9] supplied the following information:Research and Development aimed at providing batteries with improved storage capacity and lower weight to energy ratios than existing designs is being carried out in the following battery systems:

    • Cadmium/Air*
    • Indium/Zinc
    • Lead/Acid
    • Magnesium/Air*
    • Manganese/Zinc
    • Mercury/Cadmium
    • Mercury/Zinc
    • Nickel/Cadmium
    • Silver/Zinc
    • Zinc/Air

    * Under negotiation—studies or development work expected to be put under contract in the near future.

    There are in the region of 40 individual Research and Development contracts distributed with the following firms:

    • Alkaline Batteries Ltd.
    • Burndept. Ltd.
    • D.E.A.C.: Hermetically Sealed Accumulators
    • Energy Conversion Ltd.
    • Joseph Lucas Ltd.
    • Mallory Batteries Ltd.
    • Venner Accumulators Ltd.

    Battery research is being carried out on fundamental behaviour, molten salts, and non-aqueous electrolytes at Imperial College, Newcastle University and Sir John Cass College.

    Board Of Trade

    Investment Grants

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost of reducing the period of payment of investment grants to 15 months, 12 months, nine months, six months, and three months, respectively.

    I have been asked to reply.The acceleration of payment of investment grants would

    in itself increase the cost of the scheme in the long term. The additional cost that would arise in any given financial year would depend on the amount of acceleration undertaken in that year. At 1966 levels of investment it would, for example, cost about £60 million to accelerate payments by three months in the next financial year.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what estimate he has made of the value of investment grants to be paid in the financial year 1967–68.

    The total net estimate is £166 million as shown in the Vote on Account presented to the House on 15th February.

    Southern Counties Building Society (Liquidation)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade when the liquidation of the Southern Counties Building Society will be finalised; and what has caused the delay in reaching a final settlement.

    The delay in completing the liquidation by the non-official liquidator is due mainly to legal difficulties concerning property mortgaged to the society and to difficulties concerning the remuneration of the liquidator which is being fixed by the committee of inspection of creditors and shareholders. I understand that the liquidator hopes to be able to make a second and final return of capital to the shareholders within about three months and to close the liquidation shortly thereafter.

    Car Exports (Ussr And Eastern Europe)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade, in view of the fact that Volkswagen of Germany and Simca of France are negotiating for co-operative car assembly plants in Yugoslavia, and that Fiat of Italy have a similar arrangement with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, if he will increase the effort by his Department to assist British firms to enter the Iron Curtain market.

    My Departments are already giving British manufacturers of motor vehicles and ancillary plant and equipment all the assistance we can in their efforts to sell to the Soviet Union and the countries of Eastern Europe, and we shall continue to do so.

    Portugal

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what are the figures for imports and exports, to and from Portugal, for the 12 month ended 28th February, 1967.

    Consumer Council (Scotland)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will arrange for the establishment of a regional office of the Consumer Council in Scotland, and make a statement of his policy in regard to regional representation on the Council.

    The functions of a Consumer Council, as at present defined in accordance with the recommendations of the Molony Committee, can in my view be satisfactorily performed by a central body, and I am not convinced that a separate office in Scotland would be justified. Members of the Consumer Council are appointed in a personal, not a representative capacity; and the present members come from many different areas, including Scotland.

    Airline Passengers (Death In Transit)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will consult with the International Air Transport Authority with a view to the introduction of legislation to relieve the next of kin of airline passengers, dying either on board aircraft or otherwise in transit, of the excessive cost of bringing their remains back to their country of domicile.

    No. I see no need to interfere with normal airline practice in such a situation, but if the hon. Member has in mind a case where this has caused concern and he cares to send me details, I will consider the matter.

    Northern Region (New Jobs)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many new jobs for males and females, respectively, are expected to arise in the Northern Region from authorised new industrial buildings during 1967–68.

    No precise estimate is possible. I.D.C. projects approved in 1965 and 1966 were estimated by the applicants to lead, when complete and fully manned, to over 29,000 extra jobs for males and nearly 11,000 females and further projects are coming forward.

    National Finance

    Betting Duty

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated amount of revenue if the general betting duty were to be increased to 5 per cent., 7½, per cent., and 10 per cent., respectively.

    I am afraid that at present there is not sufficient information on which to make reliable estimates.

    Capital Gains Tax (Appeals)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether considering together the time limit for election, for Budget day valuation of land, under section 25(i) of Schedule 6 to the Finance Act 1965, and the time limit for notice of appeal under section 3 of the Capital Gains Tax Regulations, Statutory Instrument, 1967, No. 149, he will take steps to increase the latter limit so as to allow a period adequate for the preparation of the often complex matters involved.

    No. The time limit of thirty days in Regulation 3 of the Capital Gains Tax Regulations is the same as that provided for other tax appeals. It does not affect the taxpayer's right to make an election under paragraph 25(1), 6th Schedule, Finance Act 1965, within two years of the date of the disposal.

    Average Employment Income

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what was the average weekly wage before tax, employment income under Schedule E, for the United Kingdom, England, Wales, Scotland and the county of Cornwall in the fiscal year 1964–65;(2) what was the total net annual income before tax, including profits and professional earnings, Schedule D, employment income, Schedule E, and net investment income for the United Kingdom, England, Wales, Scotland and the county of Cornwall, respectively, in the fiscal year 1964–65;(3) what was the average weekly wage before tax, employment income under Schedule E. and the total net annual income before tax in Cornwall, Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire, and the Scottish Highlands—Caithness, Inverness, Orkney, Ross and Cromarty, Sutherland and Zetland—in the fiscal year 1964–65;(4) which county in England had the lowest and the second lowest average weekly wage before tax, employment income under Schedule E, and total net annual income in the fiscal year 1964–65.

    The available information is given below.The figures are based on the Board of Inland Revenue's Survey of Personal Incomes for 1964–65, the main results of which are published in the Board's 109th Report; and they should be interpreted in the light of the notes on pages 92–96 of that Report. Since they relate only to persons with total net incomes over £275, the figures for counties do not completely correspond to those published in Table 126 of the Report, which include some incomes below £275.The figures relate to incomes for the whole of the fiscal year; they therefore contain part-year earnings of persons entering or leaving employment in the course of the year. Since these cannot be separately identified, it is impossible to derive any figures of average weekly wages; and there is no alternative official source which provides a direct estimate of average weekly wages for the whole of the economy for the financial year 1964–65.

    Country or CountyAverage employment income (excluding wives' earningsTotal net income
    Nos. 56 and 57(£ p.a.)(£m.)
    United Kingdom877·421,151
    England890·318,316
    Wales843·8823
    Scotland798·11,671
    Cornwall724·294
    County or group of countiesAverage annual employment income (excluding wives' earnings)Average total net income
    No. 58(£ p.a.)(£ p.a.)
    Cornwall724·2906·1
    Pembrokeshire747·8894·6
    Carmarthenshire904·5891·7
    Scottish Highlands723·8867·9
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    The English counties with the lowest and second lowest average annual employment income (excluding wives' earnings) are Cornwall and Westmorland respectively; those with the lowest and second lowest average total net annual income are Cornwall and Durham.

    Survey Of Personal Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will in future publish annually a survey of personal incomes by county and region similar to that contained in the Hundred and Ninth Report of the Inland Revenue, in view of its value in deciding on policies of regional development and the relative prosperity of different parts of the United Kingdom; and whether he will take Table 126 into account in framing his Budget, in particular when considering changes to the selective employment tax as it affects Cornwall and the South-West.

    It is proposed to publish annually tables corresponding to Tables 99–126 in the 109th Report of the Board of Inland Revenue. The answer to the last part of the hon. Member's Question is that my right hon. Friend will take all relevant considerations into account.

    Gross National Product

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the annual percentage increase in the gross national product since 15th October, 1964, in actual terms and not at constant prices.

    The average annual rate of growth of the gross national product at current prices between the third quarter of 1964 and the third quarter of 1966 was about 5½ per cent.

    Income Tax (Unearned Income)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost to the Exchequer of exempting the first £100 of unearned income from Income Tax for all taxpayers over 60, 50 and 40 years of age, respectively.

    Foreign Travel Allowance

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what undertakings were given to the International Monetary Fund at the time of the imposition of the £50 limit on travel as to the period of duration of the limit.

    None. We shall of course continue to consult with the Fund Staff on this and other matters affecting our obligations under the Fund Articles.

    Railways

    Level Crossings (Automatic Half-Barriers)

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will state the number of new type Continental-styled railway level-crossing barrier gates and the total number of accidents to pedestrians, cyclists and vehicles which have been recorded to date.

    124 automatic half-barriers are in operation. There have been no accidents to pedestrians or cyclists at them. There has, however, been one accident involving a vehicle and a train; this was in no way the fault of the automatic equipment.

    asked the Minister of Transport what is her policy in providing warning road signs to the approaches of railway level-crossings where the new type Continental-styled barrier gates have been erected.

    Special symbolic "Automatic half barrier ahead" warning signs are erected. These are supplemented by count-down markers at places where drivers might not easily see the crossing. Where the road is wide enough road markings, frequently double white lines, are laid on the approaches and over the crossing.

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction, in the public interest, to the British Railways, to institute an inquiry into the existing stop signal, twin red flashing lights, used on the new type Continental-styled railway level-crossing barriers; and whether these should be replaced and brought into line with existing road traffic signals.

    No. The design of twin red flashing lights is as required by the Ministry. Stop signs for level crossings should be different from those at road intersections, as traffic problems at the two are different. In this we are in accord with Continental practice.