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Volume 745: debated on Wednesday 19 April 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 19th April, 1967

Roads

M1 (Motorway Traffic, Leeds)

8.

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals she has to channel through motorway traffic round Leeds when the M1 reaches the city in the near future.

Through traffic will be routed from the M1 via M18 to the A1(M) near Doncaster. Surveys are being made to determine whether new roads around Leeds will be needed.

A64 (Skew Bridge)

9.

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals there are to demolish Skew bridge, carrying the disused railway line to Tadcaster over the A64 trunk road, in view of the hazard to road safety it represents.

A trunk road improvement scheme including the demolition of Skew bridge will be put in hand shortly.

A4 (Marsh Lane Junction)

37.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the danger daily experienced by people on foot and in vehicles at the junction of Marsh Lane with the trunk road A4 at Taplow in Buckinghamshire, and of the recent fatal accidents which have occurred there; and what proposals she has to remedy this situation.

We are aware of conditions at this junction and of the recent regrettable fatal accident there. We are considering, with the Buckinghamshire County Council, the best measures to take to improve conditions there and at other nearby junctions.

Motorways (Crash Barriers)

38.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will ensure that crash barriers are erected in the central reservation areas of all motorways.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Twickenham (Mr. Gresham Cooke) on 21st December, 1966.—[Vol. 738, c. 328–9.]

Roads Preparation Pool

54.

asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to announce a further year's financial programme for her roads preparation pool beyond the last one announced by her predecessor.

I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member on 22nd February.—[Vol. 741, c. 290.]

Road Construction (Manpower)

55.

asked the Minister of Transport what is her policy towards the comments on manpower for road construction in the second report of the working party under Mr. J. A. Lofthouse, paragraph 3(8); and to what extent the main limitation on the roads programme is due to the failure to provide adequate finance.

I have noted the comments of the Lofthouse Working Party to which the hon. Member refers but I am concerned to see that available manpower of all kinds is deployed to the best advantage. This is one reason why I am setting up the new Road Construction Units. The main factor determining the size of the road programme is the proportion of national resources, bearing in mind the main other claims upon them, which can be devoted to roads.

A19 (Reconstruction)

58.

asked the Minister of Transport how many men are employed on the reconstruction of the A19; and when the work will be completed.

The number of men employed on actual construction work, on the four schemes on this road now being carried out in County Durham and the North Riding of Yorkshire, is at present about 110. We aim to complete the general improvement of the road by 1970–71.

Pedestrian Crossings (Kerb Ramping)

60.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will in future, when granting permission to local authorities for the making of new pedestrian crossings, specify that kerbs should be ramped for the benefit of prams, wheelchairs and the ambulant disabled; and what is the policy of her Department towards the ramping of kerbs at pedestrian crossing points in new highway developments of all other kinds.

The design and construction of footways is a matter for local authorities. But we give them guidance and for the past 20 years have recommended that where possible kerbs should be ramped down at crossing places much used by prams, wheelchairs and the disabled. A raised kerb does, however, fulfil a number of functions, and it is right that local authorities, with their local knowledge, should continue to decide whether kerbs should be ramped or not.

Road Safety (Working Parties)

64.

asked the Minister of Transport what degree of priority is given by her Department to matters of road safety under consideration by her Department's working parties; and if she is satisfied with the progress made by her Lighting Working Party's inquiries into the use of reflective number plates for motor vehicles.

Measures making a significant contribution to road safety always receive high priority in the Department.My right hon. Friend is satisfied with progress by the Lighting Working Party.

A259 (Realignment)

68.

asked the Minister of Transport what consideration she has given to the possible realignment of the A259 between Kent Ditch and Camber Corner, East Guldeford; and when a decision may be expected.

Consideration is being given to the realignment of this length of road. It is hoped to authorise the necessary preliminary surveys during the current financial year.

M5 (Extension)

71.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now undertake the extension southwards of M5, in view of the number of unemployed men in Cheltenham suitable for work on such a project.

Advance works on the Bredon Bridge and approaches are ex- petted to start in June. But outstanding statutory procedures and land acquisition prevent an early start on the main road works.

Court Road, Orpington (Loan Sanction)

72.

asked the Minister of Transport what request for loan sanction she has received from the Greater London Council in respect of the development of Court Road, Orpington, to dual carriageway standard, together with associated access roads and slip roads.

Bridges (Facings)

75.

asked the Minister of Transport what is her policy towards the facing of bridges for which he is responsible, or over which she has control, with concrete or granite; and if she will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend does not consider the added cost of masking structural concrete in highway bridges within her responsibility or control is normally warranted. Her approval to the use of facings in special cases has full regard to the extra expense involved.

Road Communications (Yarmouth-Midlands)

78.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans her Department has for improving road communications between the port of Yarmouth and the Midlands.

The road programme provides for improvements to the A47 at Honingham, Thorpe St. Andrew and Great Yarmouth. A proposal for a southern by-pass of King's Lynn was included in the list of schemes in the preparation pool announced in February. Other improvements will be undertaken as and when funds permit.

Highways Tunnels

76.

asked the Minister of Transport what study has been made by her Department of the underground tunnel road scheme proposed by Mr. A. E. Matthews at the International Road Federation; and what conclusions have been reached on its feasibility,

A technical examination of the problems and costs of constructing, operating and maintaining a system of highways tunnels suggests that these are likely to be so formidable as to cast doubt on the feasibility of the proposals. I am writing to my hon. Friend today on this subject.

A45 (Speed Limit)

79.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will impose a speed limit of less than 70 miles per hour throughout the A45 between the Birmingham and Coventry boundaries.

Yes. My right hon. Friend intends to impose a 60 m.p.h. speed limit on this road, except on certain stretches on which a lower limit may be appropriate.

Private Tolls

80.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will state the total number of ancient toll bridges remaining in private hands, and their location; what are the revenues obtained from them; and what would be the cost of redemption of such tolls.

I find that this information, so far as it is available, was given in a reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Hampstead (Mr. Whitaker) on 19th October, 1966.—[Vol. 734, c. 50.]

Channel Tunnel

82.

asked the Minister of Transport what groups have now informed the British and French Governments that they are interested in forming a group to construct the Channel Tunnel.

A number of interests have come forward. From these a list will be selected by the British and French Governments for further discussion; but I do not propose to publish any names at the present stage.

Road Improvements, Blubberhouses (Grant)

84.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will withhold from the West Riding County Council the grant for the road improvements at Blubberhouses as no steps have been taken to replace the village shop and post office, and, in view of the fact, that if the road improvement proceeds this remote village will be deprived of its only shop and devoid of a post office.

No. Steps are in fact being taken by Leeds Corporation to replace the village shop and post office.

Motorways

asked the Minister of Transport when she will state her intentions in regard to plans for expansion of the existing programme for the construction of 1,200 miles of motorway; and by what date it is expected to secure the completion of 2,700 miles of motorways or expressways as recommended in a report by the County Surveyors' Society, a copy of which has been sent to her.

I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Norfolk, Central (Mr. Ian Gilmour) on 8th March, 1967.—[Vol. 742, c. 271–2.]

Severn Bridge (Learner Motor Cyclists)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will reconsider her decision to prohibit the use of the Severn Bridge by learner motor cyclists because this necessitates a long detour which causes hardship.

No. The temporary disadvantage for this small group of motor cyclists has to be balanced against the danger that would be caused both to themselves and to other vehicles using the motorway across the Severn Bridge.

Land Use/Transportation Studies

asked the Minister of Transport what progress is being made with the joint land use/transportation studies set up by her Department with a number of local authorities as listed in the appendix to Chapter 5 of Roads in England; and if she will make a statement.

London and the Conurbations

London

Work is progressing on the final phase, which will provide material for the development plan for Greater London that the Greater London Council is to submit to the Minister of Housing and Local Government at the end of 1968.

West Midlands

The Study as originally planned has now been completed. This has entailed the forecasting of travel demand for 1981 and the assignment of that demand to two possible transportation systems for that year. The final report will be available during the summer. Meanwhile discussions are proceeding with the local authorities on the further work necessary to produce a transportation plan and how this might be organised.

South East Lancashire and North East Cheshire (SELNEC)

The Study will be taken over from the consultants at the conclusion of data collection and analysis phase in the spring of this year and continued by local authority staff working with Ministry of Transport Headquarters.

Merseyside

Most of the data collection has been completed and data editing and checking are proceeding.

Tees-side

This study was designed as a comprehensive redevelopment exercise for the area as a whole. The main study began in July, 1965. A number of alternative land-use strategies for the future have been compared and one chosen for development and refinement during the remainder of the study. This work is expected to be completed by the end of 1967, and the report published by July, 1968.

West Yorkshire

Work on the main study which is expected to take about 18 months to complete, started in March, 1967. This study is different from the other conurbation studies in that it concentrates on movements between the towns in the area and between the area and the rest of the country. This reflects the geographical structure of the conurbation and the fact that transport planning is already well advanced in the more congested individual towns in the area.

Studies outside London and the conurbations

Of the studies listed in the Appendix to Chapter 5 of "Roads in England" for the year ended 31st March, 1966, reports on those in Plymouth and Worcester have now been completed and are being considered by the local authorities concerned. Progress on the remainder is as follows:

Hull

The Project Report has been approved and fieldwork for the main survey has begun. A preliminary report is expected mid-1968.

Motorway

All Purpose Trunk Road

Class I

Class II

Class III

Unclassified

Total

3918,33519,90917,63249,000106,792202,059

The motorway mileage includes 8 miles of classified motorways.

Torbay Area

The final report is expected October, 1967.

Brighton and Hove Area

Preliminary Report is expected early 1968.

Stoke Area

The Project Report is now under discussion and data collection is now expected to start in the autumn.

South Staffordshire

Fieldwork is proceeding. The study is expected to be completed in February, 1969.

Exeter

This is expected to be completed in mid-1968.

Brentwood

The final report is due this summer.

Weston-super-Mare

Fieldwork is nearing completion. The study is expected to be completed in the summer, 1968.

Oxford

To be completed summer, 1968.

Coventry

Work is expected to start this summer.
Studies are now also being undertaken in a number of other towns.

Parking Meters (Offstreet Parking)

asked the Minister of Transport what steps she proposes to take to ensure that revenue raised from parking meters is used for the further provision of offstreet parking.

My right hon. Friend does not consider further steps on her part are necessary. Local authorities who have parking meter schemes should be well aware of their responsibilities under Section 89 of the 1960 Road Traffic Act.

Mileage

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the total mileage of roads in Great Britain as at 1st April, 1966, divided into trunk, class I, II, and III, and unclassified, indicating the mileage of motorways in each category.

The mileage is:The Scottish element of the total is as at 15th May, 1966.

Expenditure (1967–68 And 1970–71)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the estimated road expenditure in Great Britain in 1967–68 and for each year to 1970–71.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Chippenham (Mr. Awdry) on 14th March.—[Vol. 743, c. 69.]

Cross-Britain Motorway

asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for a cross-Britain motorway linking East Anglia to Wales and the West via the Midlands.

Estimates of future traffic demands show that such a motorway would not be justified. Schemes already programmed and others in the trunk road preparation pool will, however, improve road communications between East Anglia and the existing and planned motorway system serving Wales and the West.

Ports

National Ports Council (Bulk Carrier)

23.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will direct the National Ports Council to re-examine its projections of the size of bulk carrier which is expected to come into service in the grain trade to Europe during the next five years.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the Council need no such direction from her.

Grain Terminal (Isle Of Grain)

24.

asked the Minister of Transport whether in view of recent proposals to use very large ships in the grain trade, she will now review her decision not to give permission for the development of a grain terminal by private enterprise on the Isle of Grain.

Royal Naval Dockyards (Container Port Facilities)

asked the Minister of Transport what consideration she has given to the adaptation of facilities at existing Royal Naval Dockyards and, in par- ticular, at Portsmouth Dockyard to modern civil container ports.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that adequate container port facilities can be provided without resort to the use of naval ports, which are in any case still required for naval purposes.

Railways

Snow Hill Station, Birmingham

66.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the inconvenience caused over a wide area in Birmingham by her delay in promulgating her decision concerning the future of Snow Hill Station, she will announce her decision without further delay.

We appreciate the importance of putting an end to uncertainty, but the proposals involved are complex and important and my right hon. Friend must be sure that all the relevant factors are properly considered. She will reach a decision as soon as she has been able to do this.

Concessionary Fares (Merchant Seamen)

67.

asked the Minister of Transport what negotiations she and the Railways Board had with the National Union of Seamen before she gave permission to end the concessionary fares to merchant seamen not employed by the Ministry of Defence.

British Railways Board (Finances)

59.

asked the Minister of Transport what will be the effect on the deficit of the British Railways Board of establishing the basic railway network.

All the lines shown on the Network Map are already in being and its publication will have no immediate effect on the Railways Board's deficit. In the long term the stabilisation of the industry will be a factor tending to improve its financial performance.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the profit and loss on the operation of British Railways annually since nationalisation, including interest on capital; and what has been the capital sums drawn from the Exchequer annually.

The figures of surplus or deficit and of loans from the Exchequer are as follows:

BRITISH RAILWAYS (under the British Transport Commission)BRITISH TRANSPORT COMMISSION
Net surplus or deficit on revenue account*Loans from the Exchequer
£ million£ million
19488·2 (deficit)Nil†
194923·4 (deficit)Nil
195010·8 (deficit)Nil
19510·7 (deficit)Nil
19523·7 (surplus)Nil
19532·4 (deficit)Nil
195421·6 (deficit)Nil
195538·2 (deficit)Nil
195657·5 (deficit)40‡
195768·1 (deficit)61
195890·1 (deficit)112
195984·0 (deficit)112
1960112·7 (deficit)145
1961135·9 (deficit)144
1962159·0 (deficit)77
BRITISH RAILWAYS BOARD
British Railways Board's results on revenue account§Loans from the Exchequer
£ million£ million
1963133·9 (deficit)Nil
1964120·9 (deficit)15
1965132·4 (deficit)35
* After central charges (mainly interest charges) but excluding interest charged to the special account in the years 1956 to 1962 (£158·1 million for the seven years).
† Up to 1955 the Commission borrowed by the issue of stock.
† Up to the end of 1962 British Railways were part of the British Transport Commission and separate figures of loans from the Exchequer are not available. The figures given are for loans to the British Transport Commission for all their activities from 1956 to 1962.
§ Because of the changes brought about by the Transport Act 1962 and the adoption by the British Railways Board of different accounting arrangements, figures cannot be given which are precisely comparable with those for earlier years. The figures quoted are the Board's total revenue results and include surpluses on ships, harbours, hotels, etc.

Oxford Station

77.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will refer to the relevant Transport Users Consultative Committee the closure of the down-side entrance to Oxford Station which is causing hardship to elderly and infirm passengers, and traffic congestion in the station approaches.

I have already referred this matter to the Area Transport Users Consultative Committee under the provisions of Section 56(4) of the Transport Act, 1962.

Uneconomic Services

asked the Minister of Transport how she proposes to keep in operation railway lines which run at a loss.

I would refer the hon. Member to the replies I gave to his Questions following my statement to the House of 15th March.—[Vol. 743, c. 405–6.]

asked the Minister of Transport what evidence she now has of the social effects of the closures of uneconomic rail services.

The evidence brought to my notice from time to time indicates that the alternative means of transport provided as a condition of consent to closure generally prove to be adequate for the needs of former rail users. I have no evidence of any other substantial social effects but I hope to publish soon the report of the analysis of a consultants' Survey dealing with three individual rail closures.

Transport

Motor Vehicle Drivers (Drink)

61.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce amending legislation to safeguard the position of a driver who, because he feels that it would be unsafe for him to continue driving, pulls up in such a place as will not offend against any regulations or cause any obstruction.

My right hon. Friend has done so. Under the Road Safety Bill which has had its Third Reading in this House, a person in charge of a car with more than the prescribed concentration of alcohol in his blood will not be committing an offence, if he can show that the circumstances were such that there was no likelihood of his driving so long as there was any probability of him having alcohol in his blood in excess of the prescribed limit.

London Transport Board (Political Advertisements)

63.

asked the Minister of Transport what general direction has been issued to London Transport about the display of political advertisements.

Road Safety (Working Parties)

65.

asked the Minister of Transport why the Lighting Working Party of her Department only meet at intervals of two months; and whether, in the interests of road safety, she will instruct that working party to increase their productivity.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Huddersfield, West (Mr. Lomas) on 12th April.—[Vol. 744, c. 191.]

South-East Regional Passenger Transport Co-Ordinating Committee (Representation)

69.

asked the Minister of Transport if she is satisfied with the representation for East Sussex and Kent on the South-East Regional Passenger Transport Coordinating Committee; and if she will make a statement.

The members of this Committee were appointed to represent the region and not particular interests or areas. I am satisfied that they will consider the needs of all areas and public transport users within their territory.

Passenger Transport (Heathrow Airport)

70.

asked the Minister of Transport what consideration is being given to the continuous integrated transport system as developed by the Battelle Institut of Geneva, details of which have been sent to her, to solve the problems of moving passengers quickly from Heathrow Airport to the centre of London.

I am looking into the Institute's proposals. Its system seems to be intended, however, for much shorter journeys than that to Heathrow.

Transport Users' Consultative Committees (Cost)

73.

asked the Minister of Transport what has been the total cost borne by British Railways, of the Transport Users' Consultative Committees, since they came into operation, until the nearest convenient date.

The cost borne by the British Transport Commission from December, 1948 to the end of 1962 of the Central Transport Consultative Committee and the Area Transport Users' Consultative Committees was £256,000. The corresponding cost borne by the British Railways Board from 1st January, 1963 to the end of 1966 was £264,000.

Motor Insurance (Report)

74.

asked the Minister of Transport if she has yet considered the First Report of the Committee on Motor Insurance, as a factor in road safety on liability for passenger insurance; and if she will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has not yet completed her consideration of this report, or of the action she will take on it. She is not therefore yet able to make a statement, but will do as soon as possible.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will publish the First Report of the Committee on Motor Insurance as a factor in road safety.

My right hon. Friend will decide about publication of this report when she has completed her consideration of it.

British Transport Advertising Ltd (Charges)

81.

asked the Minister of Transport under what Sections of Prices and Incomes Standstill: Period of Severe Restraint, Command Paper No. 3150, British Transport Advertising Limited are seeking approval of an increase from £7 16s. 0d. to £9 in charges for quad crown railway station advertisements during the period of severe restraint; and if she will make a statement.

Command Paper No. 3150 does not lay down criteria for increase in rents as it does in the case of prices. I am satisfied however that British Transport Advertising have paid full regard to the need for restraint laid down in the White Paper, and in a number of cases have deferred increases until after 30th June, 1967.

Shipping

Mooring Buoys

asked the Minister of Transport how many mooring buoys were maintained by her Department in the year 1962–63; what were the costs of replacement and maintenance in that year; and how the number and costs compare with 1966–67.

Moorings and buoys for 131 vessels were maintained in 1962–63; the costs of replacement and maintenance were £138,245. Comparable figures for 1966–67 are 141 and £168,666.

Board Of Trade

Polish Pig Meat (Tariffs)

91.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will now revise and increase the tariffs on all forms of pig meat from Poland.

Detergent Manufacturers (Price Discussions)

86.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will now make a statement on the outcome of his discussions with the principal household detergent manufacturers, regarding a reduction in price as recommended by the Monopolies Commission Report.

I am not yet in a position to add to my earlier statements on this subject.

90.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that two big groups of manufacturers control 90 per cent. of the £75 million washing powder market, and that one of these groups refuses to implement a Monopolies Commission recommendation that wholesale prices should be cut by 20 per cent. and marketing expenses by 40 per cent.; what action he proposes to take in connection with this matter; and whether he will make a statement.

As I have said in reply to previous Questions, I am still in negotiation with the principal manufacturers concerned. I shall make a further statement as soon as possible.

Berne Convention (Delegation)

88 and 89.

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) who will compose the delegation to Stockholm in July, to discuss the Berne Convention;(2) if he will give an assurance that the British delegation to Stockholm will be fully representative of production interests such as authors, publishers, musicians, Equity, and not over-weighted with consumer interests, and that British standards will be adequately protected.

The delegation will be led by the head of the Industrial Property and Copyright Department of the Board of Trade, and will include other officials from the Board of Trade and the Foreign Office, with three representatives of the private interests most affected: that is, authors, broadcasters and film makers. It will be instructed to do its best to ensure that the rights now enjoyed by authors of literary, dramatic, musical and artistic works and by performers under the British system are fully protected.

Northern Development Area (Loans And Grants)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will state for the year ended 31st March, 1967, the number of loans and grants under Section 4 of the Local Employment Act, 1960, made to firms in development districts in the North-East, the number of applications rejected, and the number still under consideration.

The information is as follows:

Applications which the Board of Trade Advisory Committee have:
Approved36
Rejected11
Under consideration (at March 31st, 1967)51

Consumer Protection Committees

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many local authorities have set up consumer protection committees with advice and encouragement given by his Department.

None. This is a matter for individual local authorities to decide for themselves.

Egg Imports

asked the President of the Board of Trade what consultations he had with the British Egg Marketing Board before allowing the import of eggs from Poland, Denmark, Finland, Israel, Rumania and Hungary, surplus to the requirements of the home market.

For many years, imports of eggs from all countries outside the Eastern Area have been on Open General Licence and eggs from the Eastern Area have been freely licensed.

Advance Factories, Aberdeen

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many advance factories he has built in Aberdeen during each of the last 10 years; and what plans he has to build more there.

The advance factories have been authorised in Aberdeen, one in 1965 and the other in 1966. The construction of the first of these will shortly be completed, and I hope that building work on the second will be finished by October next. I have no plans to build more advance factories in Aberdeen at present, but I will take account of the needs of the district when arranging further programmes.

Aviation

British Overseas Airways Corporation (Aircrews)

87.

asked the President of the Board of Trade why the proposals made by his Department in the autumn of 1966, to the effect that maximum flight time for British Overseas Airways Corporation aircrew should be reduced from 12 hours to 11 hours, were not implemented; how far these proposals were based on medical findings; and if he will make a statement.

Proposals involving a number of changes in the present system of limits and rest periods, which applies to aircrew of other British airlines besides B.O.A.C. were circulated to airlines and other interested bodies. Many of the criticisms received were that the proposals were too rigid. My Department is now considering a more flexible scheme. The original proposals were based on aeromedical advice, which is also being used in the scheme under consideration.

Civil Aircraft (Crash Recorders)

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many British registered civil aircraft in current operation are equipped with approved crash recorders.

216 aircraft are equipped with approved recorders and a further 46 are carrying recorders of types which are being evaluated for approval.

Shipping

Coastguard Stations (Telephone Messages)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will ensure that all district coastguard stations are supplied with telephone monitoring systems, as recommended by the Inspector of Wrecks at the "Darlwyne" inquiry.

The Wreck Commissioner recommended that all telephone messages relating to any inquiry about a vessel received by the coastguards should be written out on message forms specifically provided for this purpose. This is being arranged.

Committee Of Inquiry Into Shipping

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will make a further statement about the Committee of Inquiry into Shipping.

Yes. I am glad to say that Lord Rochdale has accepted my invitation to be Chairman of this Committee. The Committee will be known as the Committee of Inquiry into Shipping and its terms of reference will be as follows:

To review, in the light of current commercial and technological developments, the organisation and structure of the United Kingdom shipping industry, its methods of operation and any other factors which affect its efficiency and competitiveness; and to recommend what action should be taken by shipowners, seafarers and Government, to bring about changes which would improve the position of the industry in these respects.
The Committee is to be concerned primarily with the shipping activities of persons resident in the United Kingdom, though it may take into account, to the extent that it finds them relevant, similar activities of other persons in respect of any ship registered in the United Kingdom. The Committee is to have regard to the international character of the industry, including the effects of the actions and regulations of foreign and other Commonwealth Governments and to the nature of the relations between governments on shipping matters. The Committee should also take account of the first and subsequent Reports of Lord Pearson's Court of Inquiry into certain matters concerning the shipping industry.

"Torrey Canyon"

asked the President of the Board of Trade, in view of the recent wreck of the tanker "Torrey Canyone" in relation to the sea lane course she took, what steps he plans to take to prevent a recurrence of the damage she inflicted to British beaches and to compensate the British people who suffered loss from this disaster.

Her Majesty's Government has requested an early meeting of the Inter-Governmental Maritime Consultative Organisation (I.M.C.O.) to consider what changes are required in international maritime law and practice, including questions relating to the routing of ships. On the question of compensation, I would refer my hon. Friend to the statements by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 4th April, 1967 [Vol. 744, c. 38–54] and to the further information given by my right hon. and learned Friend the Attorney-General in answer to Questions on 10th April.—[Vol. 744, c. 740–1.]

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

British Ocean Development Authority

94.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will consider the creation of a new British Ocean Development Authority to deal with the growing and complex problems of the fishing industry as a whole.

I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to a suggestion made by Sir Roy Matthews, former chairman of W.F.A., for a British Ocean Development Authority to exploit not merely fisheries but the resources of the sea bed generally including minerals. This proposal goes beyond the scope of this Department, but I see no advantage in such a body so far as fisheries are concerned.

Pigmeat Industries (Support)

92 and 93.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will specify the nature of the indirect assistance which goes to the pigmeat industry in Denmark;(2) whether he has completed his study of the representations made to him about the effective level of support to the pig-meat industry in Denmark as compared with the United Kingdom; and what conclusions he has reached.

I cannot usefully add to my reply to the hon. Member on 15th February [Vol. 741, c. 100–1] except to say that the existence of support, including indirect support, to foreign pigmeat industries was one of the factors discussed with our own industry before the Government decided on the stabilisation arrangements which were announced on 12th April.

European Economic Community

95.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish a White Paper setting out the differences between farm support policies in Great Britain and those in the Common Market; and what advantages and disadvantages he estimates would be incurred by domestic producers of cereals, roots, livestock and livestock products, arboricultural and horticultural products, and by consumers, if Great Britain were to accept the Common Agricultural Policy.

The differences between farm support policies in the Common Market and this country, and—so far as they can be judged—the main advantages and disadvantages to British producers and consumers of accepting the common agricultural policy as it now stands, are already described in a memorandum submitted by my Department to the Select Committee on Agriculture. This has been printed by Order of the House in the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on 15th March, and is available to the public in that form.

Hides (Warble Fly)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the percentage drop in damage to hides due to warble fly; and to what extent this reduction is due to the increased use of systemic dressing or to other natural causes.

Figures obtained from auction returns provided by the leather trade show that the percentage of ox and heifer warbled hides fell from 16 per cent. in 1965 to 9 per cent. in 1966. The percentage of cow and bull warbled hides remained the same, namely, 5 per cent. These percentages should be regarded as minimum figures, as some apparently clear hides reveal evidence of warble infestation during processing.The use of systemic dressings in this country is only one of several factors which have helped this reduction. Other reasons for the improvement include restrictions imposed by the Eire Government, which have greatly reduced the number of warble infested animals imported from that country; conditions unfavourable to the warble fly in 1966; and changes in methods of husbandry for the fattening of cattle and the increasing tendency to slaughter cattle at an earlier age, which have meant that fewer of the animals slaughtered have been exposed to infestation with warbles.

Agricultural Land (England And Wales)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give the figures of the net annual decrease in agricultural area of England and Wales from 1939 up to the present, showing separately building and other developments.

The net average annual decrease in the area of agricultural land in England and Wales, between 1939 and 1966, was:

'000 acres
Crops and Grass11·7
Rough Grazing33·0
Total44·7
This Department does not specifically collect statistics relating to the uses of

land lost to agriculture but some information is obtained through the agricultural censuses. Estimates from this source show average changes during the period as follows:

'000 acres
Building and general development (including mineral workings)-29·5
Sports grounds-2·6
Government Departments-13·6
Forestry Commission and Private Woodlands-19·0
Other changes+20·0
-44·7
These figures are affected by the large scale changes in land use that took place during and following the war. The average annual changes for the most recent five- and ten-year periods are as follows:

5 Year Average 1961–2 to 1965–6 '000 acres10 Year Average 1956–7 to 1965–6 '000 acres
Building and general development (including mineral workings)-34·9-33·7
Sports grounds-3·2-2·8
Government Departments+2·5+2·9
Forestry Commission and Private Woodlands-14·1+17·1
Other changes+2·3-2·2
-47·4-52·9
Annual figures for land lost from agriculture for housing and industrial development from 1945–46 to 1964–65 were given by my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary in a reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Eldon Griffiths) on 6th July, 1966.—[Vol. 731, c.

67–8.]

Price Review Award (Taxation)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of the review award will remain available to farmers after taxation.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Westmorland (Mr. Jopling) on 17th April.—[Vol. 745, c. 32.]

Arable Land (Profits)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food by how much profits on arable farms dropped during the year 1966–67.

Profits on arable farms are not yet known for 1966–67, but present indications are that they will shown some improvement, particularly on those farms where potatoes are important.

Brucellosis (Wales)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how far his plans have progressed in Wales to eradicate brucellosis in cattle.

The first essential in Wales as elsewhere is to build up a register of brucellosis accredited herds to provide replacements for any subsequent eradication scheme. This is because some 14 per cent. of the cattle in Great Britain, including a not appreciably lower percentage in Wales, would react at present to diagnostic tests. Most of these animals are healthy and would react because of vaccination. To slaughter such animals would be a waste of national resources and would in any case be impracticable until replacements are available from herds of known status.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what evidence he has from Wales on the effectiveness or otherwise of the S19 vaccine as a means of preventing the development of brucellosis in cattle.

This vaccine has done a great deal to reduce the incidence of brucellosis in cattle over the last twenty or so years from a high level to something like 2 per cent. in dairy herds.There is no evidence that the vaccine is less effective in Wales than elsewhere, but it will not necessarily stand up in every case to a heavy challenge of infection.

Synthetic Oestrogens

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the evidence that the use of hormones to speed the fattening of animals for human consumption can encourage certain forms of disease especially in children and the fact that France and Switzerland prohibit imports of meat affected by such hormones, he will carry out a further review of the present situation under which hormones may still be freely used for fattening animals and poultry in this country.

No. My right hon. Friend is advised by the Medical Research Council that the proper use of synthetic oestrogens in agriculture as at present practised should carry no hazard to the consumer. On the advice of his Scientific Advisory Panel, my right hon. Friend has arranged for new preparations and changes in the use of existing preparations to be notified and considered under the Veterinary Products Safety Precautions Scheme.

Scotland

Teachers (Committees And Conferences)

98.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that thousands of teaching hours are lost by the absence of qualified teachers from the classroom at official teachers' committees and conferences, on subjects connected with teaching; and if he will seek to ensure that such conferences are held outwith the school day with payment for such attendances as necessary, and seek the co-operation of teachers' organisations to effect a similar situation with regard to their meetings.

I am anxious to see the loss of teaching time through attendance at committees and conferences kept to the minimum, but I should prefer to rely on the good sense of teachers and employing authorities.

Housing

96.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement on the housing progress made in January and February of this year as compared with the same period in each of the last five years, and on the figures for the first quarter of 1967.

In the first quarter of 1967 8,659 houses were approved for building by local authorities, new towns and the S.S.H.A.: in the public and private sectors taken together, 10,505 houses were started and 8,155 completed, and 52,900 were under construction at the end of the quarter. These figures are respectively 50 per cent., 55 per cent., 10 per cent. and 6 per cent. higher than the figures for the first quarter of 1966.

Figures for January and February of this and the last five years for local

1962

1963

1964

1965

1966

1967

Houses approved4,0744,0495,7734,5383,3894,830
Houses started2,3503,6054,5354,9701,8754,825
Houses completed2,4881,9153,9214,0053,3513,980
Houses under construction at end February24,88830,56838,44836,87839,78841,690

(Note: Figures for private owners and housing associations are collected only quarterly.)

Figures for building by all agencies for the first quarter of this and the last five years are as follows:—

1962

1963

1964

1965

1966

1967

Houses started6,5077,51910,49910,7316,76710,505
Houses completed6,4484,8428,1928,7997,3888,155
Houses under construction at end quarter31,42637,91746,99445,35049,90952,900

Epileptics (Standing Medical Advisory Committee)

97.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what information he has received from the subcommittee of the Scottish Standing Medical Advisory Committee regarding their inquiries into the treatment of epileptics in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

None so far. The subcommittee of the Standing Medical Advisory Committee set up in May, 1966, to consider this question is expected to report later this year.

Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of inhabitants per doctor in Scotland; and what were the corresponding figures for the years 1960 to 1965.

The number of inhabitants per doctor employed in the National Health Service in Scotland in each of the years 1960–66 was:—

YearInhabitants per Doctor
1960851
1961837
1962826
1963822
1964825
1965791
1966794

School-Crossing Patrol Employees

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consideration is being given to the scales of remuneration of school-crossing patrol employees.

The pay of school-crossing patrol employees is negotiated by the National Joint Industrial Council for Local Authority Employees (Scotland).

authorities, new towns and the S.S.H.A. are as follows:

No proposals affecting their remuneration have been put to me under the early warning system.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total number of school-crossing patrol employees in the years 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, and to the nearest available date in 1967.

The numbers of school-crossing patrols employed by local authorities in Scotland at 31st March each year were:—

19621963196419651966
13731423153117321816
I regret that the figure for 1967 is not yet available.

Traffic Wardens

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many traffic wardens are employed in Scotland at present; and where were the figures for 1962 to 1966.

The number of traffic wardens employed at 31st March, 1967 was 245; the numbers in post at 31st December in each of the years 1962 to 1966 were:—

19621963196419651966
323231108196

Sugar Beet

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has for developing in North-East Scotland an industry for converting beet into sugar and for encouraging farmers to grow the relevant crops.

None. All sugar beet in Scotland is grown under contract to the British Sugar Corporation's factory at Cupar. Farmers who wish to grow the crop and consider that their land is suitable should approach the Corporation's officials at Cupar with a view to obtaining a contract.

Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will reconsider the policy stated in his recent letter to the hon. and learned Member for Aberdeen, North, that only prisoners sentenced for three years and over may have radio sets in their cells; and if he will take steps to facilitate and encourage the restoration of all prisoners to constructive good citizenship.

I am always ready to consider steps to help the rehabilitation of prisoners, but I do not think that an increase in the number of radio sets held by prisoners would have the result which my hon. and learned Friend suggests.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to ensure that Scottish offenders are imprisoned in prisons near their

TRUNK ROAD SCHEMES IN PROGRESS OR PLANNED IN ABERDEEN AREA
RouteSchemeEstimated cost (£000)Length (miles)
Aberdeen City (see note)
Aberdeen County
A96Diversion at Midbog (between Inverurie and Huntly)32
A96Improvement at Glasgoeogo (south of Kintore)17
A96Improvement at Port Elphinstone (Inverurie)14
A96Bishopton diversion741⅛
A96Provision of dual carriageway, Auchmill Road-Inverurie Road, Bucksburn.200 (approx.)1 (approx.)
A92Small improvements between Balmedie and Ellon Kincardine County5¾
A92Extension of dual carriageway, Limpet Mill-Cortens139
A92Provision of dual carriageway, Bridge of Muchalls-Nether Mains of Muchalls.60¾

Note: Within the City of Aberdeen trunk roads become trunk routes and have Class I/principal road status.

CLASSIFIED ROAD SCHEMES IN PROGRESS OR PLANNED BY LOCAL HIGHWAY AUTHORITIES IN THE ABERDEEN AREA

Route

Scheme

Estimated cost (£000)

Grant (£000)

Length (miles)

Aberdeen City

A946Widening of West North Street (future Inner Ring Road)8866¼
A956Provision of dual carriageway at Wellington Road2902181
B986Improvement at Berryden Road1061/12
A944Widening of Skene Road (Phase 2)2116¼
Class IIIImprovement of Park Street1471/10
Class IProvision of roundabouts on A92 and A975038

Aberdeen County

A947Improvement at Parkhill, Dyce; including new bridge over River Don.12090
B999Improvements at Pitmedden2314½
A981Improvement at Souterford Bridge, Inverurie4131¾
A947Diversion at Tulloch Woods3627½

homes, to facilitate visits by their relations and to encourage their rehabilitation in constructive good citizenship.

In the summer of last year a new classification scheme was introduced whereby all prisoners serving less than 12 months—about 94 per cent.—are retained at their local prison. The remaining prisoners pass through a classification centre at Edinburgh and are allocated to prisons according to their needs for particular types of training.

Road Schemes (Aberdeen)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of his plans for road building and improvement in and around the City of Aberdeen.

My direct responsibility for building and improving roads in the Aberdeen area concerns trunk roads outside the City of Aberdeen. The construction and improvement of classified roads are primarily matters for the responsible local highway authorities.

Agricultural Land

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the figures of the net annual decrease in agricultural area of Scotland from 1939 up to the present, showing separately building and other developments.

Detailed information about losses of land classed as crops and grass has been collected only since 1951 and information about losses of all agricultural land only since 1960. The figures are given in the following table:

000 ACRES NET LOSS PER ANNUM
To roads, housing, industrial development, etc.To other uses (mainly forestry)
1951–523·0Not available
1952–533·3Not available
1953–543·4Not available
1954–553·5Not available
1955–563·2Not available
1956–572·6Not available
1957–582·9Not available
1958–592·0Not available
1959–602·7Not available
1960–614·675·8
1961–623·539·2
1962–634·248·3
1963–645·334·8
1964–655·434·8
1965–665·266·3

Ministry Of Defence

Aden

99.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the actions taken and casualties incurred by units of the Royal Anglian Regiment in Aden during the recent visit of the United Nations mission.

During the recent visit by the United Nations mission to Aden the 3rd Battalion of the Royal Anglian Regiment were engaged in operations in the Sheikh Othman area where the terrorists concentrated their efforts. Three members of the regiment were wounded.

Polaris Submarines

100.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his estimate of the new floating dock for Polaris submarines, the modular repair facility, and the additional cost of spare parts, respectively.

I cannot give details of spares holdings. I would only say that the first two items will cost about £5 million.

101.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what delays have occurred in the Polaris construction programme at Cammell Laird's shipyard, Birkenhead, as a result of the current lock-out of members of the Draughtsmen's and Allied Technicians Association; and what is the approximate cost of such delays.

This dispute has not so far resulted in measurable delays to the Polaris programme; if it continues, the effect could become serious.

Industrial Civil Servants (Pay Structure)

103.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the new pay structure for industrial employees in Government service, which includes those working at No. 23 Maintenance Unit at Royal Air Force Station Aldergrove, the operation of which has so far been postponed, will now come into force.

The National Board for Prices and Incomes, in its Report (No. 18) published last year, recommended that an entirely new pay structure should be established for all industrial employees in Government service, and that every effort should be made to bring the new structure into operation by April, 1967.It was subsequently decided that the new structure could not be introduced during the period of severe restraint, and negotiations are proceeding with the aim of bringing it into operation in July, 1967.

Royal Air Force Station, Aldergrove (Skilled Work)

102.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects the study of the proposed plan to up-grade certain skilled aircraft work at Royal Air Force Station Aldergrove, in County Antrim, to a higher rate of pay will be completed; and when will such increased rates be paid.

Examination of the case for upgrading certain skilled work at all engineering depots in Royal Air Force Maintenance Command is on the point of completion. The conclusions have now to be discussed with the trade union concerned, but in any event, the date on which any upgrading might be effected, and from which increased rates of pay might be awarded, would not precede the ending of the period of severe restraint on 30th June, 1967.This matter is not connected with the new pay structure for industrial employees.

Defence Operational Analysis Establishment, West Byfleet (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will set out a table in the Official Report giving details of the qualifications by category of all staff working at the Byfleet Defence Operational Analysis Establishment.

The staff currently working at the Defence Operational Analysis Establishment, West Byfleet comprise:—

GradeFunction
Chief Scientific OfficerDirector (and Chief Scientific Adviser, Operational Analysis)
Deputy Chief Scientific OfficersSenior Directing Staff
Brigadier
Senior Principal Scientific OfficersStudy teams; technical and support services, programming and operation of computer
Principal Scientific Officers
Senior Scientific Officers
Scientific Officers
Scientific Assistants
Chief Experimental Officer
Senior Experimental Officers
Experimental Officers
Assistant Experimental Officers
Service Officers of all three Services
Higher Executive OfficerAdministrative, financial, clerical etc. support
Librarian, Grade III
Executive Officers
Supporting clerical, typing, telephonists and miscellaneous grades
Industrial Staff

Service Establishments (Corporal Punishment)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence under what circumstances corporal punishment is authorised in Army establishments.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence under what cir- cumstances corporal punishment is authorised in Royal Air Force establishments.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence on how many occasions in the past 12 months corporal punishment has been administered in Royal Navy establishments; and for what offences.

Sixty-nine canings were administered in the Royal Navy's junior training establishments in the past twelve months. There were twenty-two canings for stealing, eighteen for improperly leaving the establishment, ten for assault, six for disobedience, four for offering violence, three for striking a superior, two for bullying, one for contempt, one for wilful damage, one for indecency and one for absence from place of duty.

Fishery Protection Squadron

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) in view of the changes in the command structure of the Fishery Protection Squadron, what further plans the Government has for the specific protection of British fishing fleets in the North Sea and their other traditional fishing grounds;(2) what plans he has to maintain and develop the Fishery Protection Squardron at a sufficiently high standard and number to protect Aberdeen fishing fleets in North Sea and other traditional fishing grounds.

There has been no change in the high standard of protection afforded to British fishermen by the Royal Navy. No change is planned. Should circumstances arise in which it becomes necessary to increase the patrol activity of H.M. Ships the recent reorganisation provides for the Commander-in-Chief to be able to draw on the resources of the Home Fleet.

Nuclear Ships (Radio Activity)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what study has been made by his Department of the danger to the general public which would be caused if a ship powered by nuclear engines was wrecked and of the means to combat it.

Studies have been made of this problem in connection with the operation of nuclear submarines. Although it is highly unlikely that circumstances could arise whereby the release of radio activity could be a hazard to the public, emergency organisations do exist to deal with such situations.

Home Department

M1 (Speed Limit Prosecutions)

104.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many motorists have been summonsed for exceeding the 70 miles per hour limit on the M1.

Up to and including 28th February, 1967, there were 364 prosecutions.

Commonwealth Affairs

Zambia (British Detainees)

105.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs, if he is aware that Mr. H. P. Nursten, a British citizen at present resident and engaged in business in Zambia, has been arrested and detained in custody on unspecified charges by the Zambian police, acting on the orders of the President of Zambia; what instructions he has given to the British High Commissioner in Lusaka to make representations on behalf of Mr. Nursten to secure his immediate release from custody; and if he will make a statement generally on the matter.

Mr. Nursten was arrested on 13th April under Section 31 (A(I)) of the Zambian Preservation of Public Security Regulations, 1964, from which it would appear that in the opinion of the President, it was necessary to exercise control over him to preserve public security.I instructed our High Commissioner in Lusaka immediately to make suitable representations to ensure that Mr. Nursten and other United Kingdom detainees are correctly treated and that access would be granted to a member of the High Commissioner's staff and to legal advisers.My latest information is that all these points have been met by the Zambian authorities and that reasons for the arrests have been given to the persons concerned.A member of our High Commission has since visited the three United Kingdom detainees. He found them in good health and cheerful and they had no complaints to make about their treatment.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs (1) whether he will make a statement on the arrest by the Zambian security police of Lieutenant-Colonel J. M. Arnott, Mr. H. P. Nursten, Mr. Ian Haigh, Mr. Cecil Swift, and Mr. B. Warren on Thursday, 13th April;(2) what steps have been taken by Her Majesty's High Commissioner in Zambia to ensure that the proper interests of five of Her Majesty's subjects arrested in Zambia on Thursday, 13th April, have been safeguarded.

Mr. Nursten, Lieutenant-Colonel Arnott and Mr. Haigh, United Kingdom citizens, and Mr. Swift a Rhodesian citizen, were arrested on 13th April under Section 31(A) of the Zambian Preservation Public Security Regulations, 1964.I have so far had only an unconfirmed report that Mr. Warren, a Canadian citizen, was also arrested.I have nothing further to add to the reply already given to the hon. Member for Leeds, North-West.

Ghana (Medium Term Debts)

106.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what benefit he estimates that Ghana will derive from the deferment of payments due to overseas suppliers arranged in London recently by Her Majesty's Government.

During the period June, 1966-December, 1968, Ghana was due to repay a total of £77·3 million of medium term debts to overseas suppliers. Under the rescheduling agreement reached in London in December, 1966, she is being offered relief to the extent of £61·8 million, and will pay during this period only some £22·9 million including interest on all arrears. The balance will be repaid in instalments after a further grace period of 2½ years. These figures are only approximate as Ghana has not yet completed her bilateral agreements with the greater number of her creditor countries.

National Finance

Capital Gains Tax

107.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the amount of Capital Gains Tax collected during the last two financial years from the sale of stamp collections; and what is the cost of collecting the tax from this source.

Overseas Development

Ghana (Aid)

108.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what amount of credit, and at what rate of interest, Her Majesty's Government undertook to make to Ghana at the recent Paris meeting towards the immediate target of £40 million agreed as the capital injection required to get the economy on the move again; and how this compared with promises from some of the other countries attending.

The Paris meeting was not the occasion for making pledges of aid to Ghana. At the request of the Ghana Government Her Majesty's Government and other potential donor Governments are now considering what aid we can offer in the light of the situation disclosed at the meeting.

India (Aid)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether, in view of the development of famine conditions in India, Her Majesty's Government will now increase the aid programme for India in the current year.

At the recent meeting of the Aid-India Consortium in Paris, which considered India's requirements for food and quickly disbursing aid in 1967–68, Britain promised £19 million of non-project aid including £12 million of general purpose aid. This form of aid is acknowledged by the Government of India to be the way in which we can best help them to tackle their immediate problems including their special needs arising from the food shortage. The £19 million is an advance instalment of our aid to India for 1967–68. I cannot at this stage forecast how much we shall pledge or disburse in 1967–68; this will depend on negotiations and consultations with the Indian Government about the purposes, form and date of expected disbursements. India has, however, received, and will continue to receive, very sympathetic treatment within our aid programme. Something over £43 million was disbursed to India in 1966–67 compared with about £32 million in 1965–66.

Economic Affairs

Humberside Feasibility Study

109.

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will make a statement about the progress being made by the feasibility studies team upon Humberside regional development; and when he expects they will finish this work.

The feasibility study of Humberside is proceeding as quickly as possible but it is a major economic and physical planning study which needs to be done thoroughly. We do not expect the results to be available before the latter part of this year.

European Economic Community

asked the Prime Minister (1) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Ministry of Power and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967;(2) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Ministry of Technology and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967;(3) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Ministry of Health, and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable, will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967;(4) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Home Office, and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable, will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967;(5) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Ministry of Social Security, and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable, will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967;(6) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Ministry of Labour, and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable, will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967;(7) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Depart- ment of Education and Science, and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable, will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March 1967;(8) whether he will publish and make available in the Vote Office an assessment of how the policies of the Attorney-General's department and that of the bodies and organisations for which it is answerable, will be affected if Great Britain joins the European Economic Community, on the lines of the assessment recently given by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to the Select Committee on Agriculture and published on 8th March, 1967.The Prime Minister: No. This method would not necessarily be appropriate in fields other than that of the common agricultural policy. But the question of the supply of further information to Parliament about possible entry into the European Economic Community is very much in the Government's mind.

Land Registration (Computer Service)

asked the Attorney-General if he will set up a working party to study the advantages of setting up a comprehensive computer service for the purpose of recording the title of land in England and Wales, recording all local and other charges, planning decisions and rating assessments on land, so that all relevant information relating to any piece of land could be immediately available.

No. Investigation has shown that it is not yet feasible to record land registration on a computer. Land charges and local land charges are now being studied by the Law Commission who may recommend changes. In their view amalgamation of land charges registries cannot be considered before the contemplated reorganisation of local government areas. The Commission will then consider whether amalgamation is practicable and if so in what form.

Ministry Of Health

Oral Contraceptives (Thrombotic Disease)

asked the Minister of Health if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the statistical analysis of the inquiry by the Dunlop Committee on the Safety of Drugs into the incidence of thrombotic disease among women taking contraceptive drugs.

No. I understand that the Dunlop Committee's preliminary analysis will be included in the composite report which, as I stated in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Huddersfield, West (Mr. Lomas) on 4th April, the Medical Research Council intend to publish as soon as possible. As a scientific paper, this would be more appropriately published in a professional journal.—[Vol. 744, c. 28–9.]

Housing

National Building Agency

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what proposals he has regarding the organisation of the National Building Agency.

My right hon. Friends and I have decided to reorganise the Board of the Agency. To facilitate reorganisation Mr. Prosser, the present full-time Chairman and Managing Director, has resigned from these offices and from membership of the Agency. Lord Bourne, a member of the Board, has been appointed to be part-time Chairman, and Mr. Cleeve Barr, the present Deputy Chairman and Chief Architect of the Agency, has been appointed Managing Director.The functions of the Agency are unchanged.

Ministry Of Labour

Phelps Brown Committee

asked the Minister of Labour (1) whether meetings of the committee of inquiry into the use of labour in the construction industry will be held in public;(2) by what date he has asked the Phelps Brown Committee to report;

(3) whether he will give an assurance that the report of the Phelps Brown Committee will be published in full.

I understand that the Committee has decided to hold meetings in private. Professor Phelps-Brown and his colleagues are pursuing their inquiries vigorously, but the matters covered by the Committee's terms of reference are complex and far-reaching and the Minister of Public Building and Works and I have not fixed a date by which we expect the Committee to report. It is intended to publish the Committee's report in full.

Haunchwood Colliery, Warwickshire (Consultations)

asked the Minister of Labour what consultations his regional or branch officers had with the National Coal Board in advance of the closure of Haunchwood Colliery, Warwickshire.

My officers have been aware for some time of plans to close this colliery and have been in close touch with local N.C.B. officials.

Unemployment (Nuneaton And Atherstone)

asked the Minister of Labour what was the number of registered unemployed and vacancies existing in the Atherstone rural district, borough of Nuneaton, and parish of Arley, all being in the County of Warwickshire; and how the latest figure compares with previous figures in the past year.

Following is the information for the area of Nuneaton Employment Exchange which includes Arley and most of Atherstone:

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AT NUNEATON EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGE AND AT NUNEATON AND ATHERSTONE YOUTH EMPLOYMENT OFFICES, AND NOTIFIED VACANCIES REMAINING UNFILLED AT THESE OFFICES
Numbers UnemployedUnfilled Vacancies
March, 19671,246233
February, 19671,250159
January, 19671,480166
December, 19661,459239
November, 19661,662259
October, 19661,438332
September, 1966727373
August, 1966698436
July, 1966271656
June, 1966268569
May, 1966238485
April, 1966301574

Unemployment Pay

asked the Minister of Labour what advice he gives to his officials on the grant of unemployment pay to workers who have declined to accept lower-paid work from their employer.

My officials are instructed to refer to the independent adjudicating authorities all claims on which a question arises under Section 22 of the National Insurance Act, 1965.

Manufacturing And Service Industries, Wales (Employees)

asked the Minister of Labour what proportions of employees in each of the counties of Wales are employed in manufacturing and service industries, respectively.

Following is the information:

ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES IN MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES (ORDERS III-XVI OF THE STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION AND IN SERVICE INDUSTRIES (ORDERS XIX-XXIV) EXPRESSED AS PERCENTAGES OF EMPLOYEES IN ALL INDUSTRIES AND SERVICES IN COUNTIES OF WALES AT MID-1965
Manufacturing industriesService industries
Per cent.Per cent.
Anglesey1751
Brecon1761
Caernarvon1865
Cardigan869
Carmarthen3241
Denbighshire2650
Flintshire4738
Glamorgan3543
Merioneth758
Monmouth4436
Montgomery and Radnor1460
Pembroke1162
Local estimates for mid-1966 will be available in June, 1967.

Redundancy Pay

asked the Minister of Labour what advice he gives to employers on entitlement to redundancy pay of workers to whom they have offered lower-paid employment.

General guidance on this matter is given in paragraphs 15 to 18 of my Ministry's published guide to the Redundancy Payments Act, 1965, of which I am sending my hon. Friend a copy.

Public Building And Works

Departmental Staff

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether in the light of experience, he is satisfied that financial savings and savings in staff and administration have taken place as a result of the amalgamation of the works departments of the Service Ministries under his Department; and whether he will make a statement.

Yes. I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Southend, West (Mr. Channon) on 18th April.—[Vol. 745, c. 75.]

Technology

Computers

asked the Minister of Technology (1) what information he has, from international sources or from studies connected with his sponsorship of the computer industry, about the number of computers in use in Switzerland; and how this compares with Wales, Scotland and England, respectively;(2) how many computers, and of what capacity, there are in Wales; and how many there are in England.

The information asked for is not available from official sources, but "Computer Survey" estimates that the number of computers installed in March, 1967 was as follows:

England1,993
Scotland136
Wales63
Northern Ireland12
2,204
Of the computers in Wales, 6 were large (costing over £250,000) and 27 were medium sized (costing between £50,000 and £250,000).As regards computers in use in Switzerland, the January issue of "Computers and Automation" reports that there were 380 in December, 1966.

asked the Minister of Technology what steps are being taken to institute the manufacture of computers in Wales.

When any new factory is proposed for the manufacture of computers, all the forms of assistance available from the Board of Trade in development areas, including the Welsh development area, and the advantage of operating in these areas are drawn to the attention of the firm.

Ministry Of Aviation (Technical Cost Department Staff)

asked the Minister of Technology what was the complement and actual strength of the engineers in the Technical Cost Department of the Ministry of Aviation in October, 1963, 1964, 1965 and 1966.

The figures are as follows:—

ComplementStrength
1st October, 19633229
1st October, 19643728
1st October, 19654933
1st October, 19665145

asked the Minister of Technology what was the complement and actual strength of the technical grades in the Technical Cost Department of the Ministry of Aviation in October, 1963, 1964, 1965 and 1966.

The figures are as follows:—

ComplementStrength
1st October, 1963261242
1st October, 1964271243
1st October, 1965334279
1st October, 1966348280

Wales

Tourism

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will seek to co-ordinate the various bodies responsible for tourism in Wales under one central authority.

The Government regard the Wales Tourist Board as the central authority for this purpose and have arranged for the Board to receive the substantial additional financial support which I announced last week.

Computers

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many computers there are, and of what capacity, in the University of Wales and other Welsh educational institutions, and in local government central government offices, nationalised industries, private industry and commerce, respectively, in Wales.

I am making inquiries and will write to the hon. Member as soon as I can.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many computers he calculates will be necessary in Wales by 1980.

Educational And Training Facilities

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will institute a survey of the probable needs in Wales for qualified personnel of all kinds during the remainder of the century, in order to ensure that the necessary educational and training facilities are provided in Wales.

My right hon. Friends the Secretary of State for Education and Science and the Minister of Labour make provision to assess and meet the needs for these facilities.

Population

asked the Secretary of State for Wales which counties of Wales, including Monmouthshire, are currently showing a gain in population; which are losing population; and what are the respective figures of gain and loss.

The counties showing an increase in population between 1965 and 1966 are:

Per cent.
Anglesey1·2
Cardiganshire0·1
Denbighshire0·4
Flintshire1·4
Glamorgan0·2
Monmouthshire0·7
Pembrokeshire0·8
Radnorshire0·3
The counties which lost population during the same period are:

Per cent.
Breconshire0·3
Carmarthenshire0·4
Merioneth0·2
The populations of Caernarvonshire and Montgomeryshire were virtually unchanged.

Welsh Fly Fishing Association (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he has yet made his observations on the report submitted two years ago by the Welsh Fly Fishing Association on the survival of Welsh angling associations; and if he will make a statement.

Since the Welsh Fly Fishing Association made its recommendations my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture stated in reply to the hon. Member for Woolwich, West (Mr. Hamling) on 1st August, 1966 that his Department proposed to discuss with fishing interests whether River Authorities should, in the interests of securing better availability of fishing to Anglers, exercise to a greater extent their powers to acquire and manage fisheries. In the last two years offers of grants totalling £14,700 have been made to angling societies in Wales under the Physical Training and Recreation Act 1937 to enable them to acquire fishing rights.—[Vol. 733, c. 30.]