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Volume 751: debated on Wednesday 26 July 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 26th July, 1967

Ministry Of Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

London Street Markets (Food Sales Inquiry)

10 and 11

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will set up an inquiry into the facilities for selling food in London street markets, the conditions under which food is sold, and comparative prices for similar articles sold in different markets and in different localities;(2) whether he will introduce legislation to regulate the marking of price tickets for goods in food shops and markets.

I do not think a case has been made out for a general inquiry into the sales of food in London street markets, nor do I think special legislation is called for on the marking of food prices. If, however, the hon. Member has any specific points I should be pleased to see that they are looked at by the appropriate Department.

Milk Production (Manufacturing Purposes)

27.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is his policy to expand the production of milk in the United Kingdom for manufacturing purposes.

Not for that specific purpose. But the expansion of the dairy herd to meet beef requirements should result in an increase in the amount of milk available.

Overseas Agriculture (Support)

28.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, whether he will publish as a White Paper all the information he has on the type and level of indirect subsidisation of overseas producers in competition with our own.

Much information about direct and indirect measures of support for agriculture in most countries is regularly available from published sources, and I doubt whether it would be suitable to assemble all the material relevant to this diverse subject within the compass of a White Paper. If the hon. Member requires any specific information I will gladly write to him.

Store Cattle (Welsh Markets)

46.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will name the representative markets in Wales where his officials take note of store prices when calculating the effect of Irish cattle on market prices.

Abergele, Carmarthen, Llangefni, Newport, (Monmouthshire) and Welshpool auction markets are the Welsh markets contributing to our calculation of the average prices of homebred and Irish store cattle.

47.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give the average prices reported to him as having been received for store cattle in West Wales markets for the first six months of 1967 compared with the comparable period in 1966.

For first quality 18 month old beef and beef/dairy cross steers, about £64 13s. this year compared with £68 5s. for 1966.

Egg Imports

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will now take steps to limit the quantities of imported eggs entering this country.

I have nothing to add to the reply I have given today to the hon. Members for Shrewsbury (Sir J. Langford-Holt), Norfolk Central, (Mr. Ian Gilmour) and Cardigan (Mr. Elystan Morgan).

Forestry Commission (Car Rally Fees)

54.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what instructions he has given to the Forestry Commission in respect of fees to be paid by car rally organisers for the use of forestry roads.

My right hon. Friend has given no directions to the Forestry Commission in this matter. I understand, however, that the Commission and the Royal Automobile Club have an agreement covering the use of the Commission's roads for authorised car rallies. This includes a fee based on 6d. per vehicle mile over the scheduled route, plus the actual cost of making good any identifiable damage to Commission property.

Pigs (Slaughter Figure)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give the number of pigs eligible for guarantee, slaughtered in the period covered by the forecast made in August, 1966, following the publication of the June returns; and how this compares with the forecast.

The forecast of annual certifications made in August, 1966, was just over 12·4 million pigs. It is estimated that some 12·2 million pigs eligible for guarantee were slaughtered in the period to which the forecast relates.

Forestry Commission

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many redundancies he estimates will take place by next October in the East England Conservancy of the Forestry Commission North Norfolk forests; and to what extent private contract work will be reduced to minimise the number of redundancies amongst the Commission's industrial staff.

Fifteen men are expected to become redundant by October, 1967. This is mainly due to the introduction of new and more economical methods of working. As to the second part of the Question, the Commission propose to work some four-fifths of the timber to be felled in the coming year with their own labour. Only one of the fifteen redundancies is due to contract working.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement indicating the amount of private contract work undertaken in each of the past three years in Forestry Commission forests, and the total number of industrial workers and the total number of supervisory staff employed in each of the past three years by the Commission.

The estimated numbers of workers employed on forestry contract work for the Forestry Commission were about 1,900 in 1964 and 1965, and about 1,980 in 1966, and are now about 1,950.The total numbers of industrial workers and non-industrial local supervisory staff employed at 31st March were 11,002 and 1,153 respectively in 1965, 10,684 and 1,152 in 1966 and 10,237 and 1,105 in 1967.

Beef (Retail Price Changes)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to what extent there has been a response to his recent appeal for a reduction in the price of beef to retail customers; what were the average prices of the various cuts of beef before and since his appeal; and what further action he proposes to take to ensure that the reductions in meat prices are passed on to the retail customers.

Because of the very wide range of cuts sold in some 40,000 shops, and the quality and other variations even between apparently comparable cuts, it is impracticable to quote price changes in the way my hon. Friend asks. But I have sufficient reports of competitive reductions, particularly on stewing, braising and brisket beef, to show that there are opportunities for many customers to buy very cheaply the cuts that are most plentiful. I shall continue to watch the situation.

Rural Development Boards (Consultations)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what consultations were held with representatives of farming interests prior to his decision to establish rural development boards.

The customary consultations with farming organisations took place after the issue of the White Paper of August, 1965, proposing inter alia the establishment of rural development boards, and before the introduction of the necessary legislation.

Welsh Rural Development Board

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give an assurance that in the appointment of members to the Welsh Rural Development Board a high priority will be given to the ability of eligible persons to speak Welsh.

This is one of the considerations which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I will take into account.

Meat And Livestock Commission (Administrative Cost)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the annual cost of administering the Meat Commission.

The financial needs of the Meat and Livestock Commission in carrying out its functions will largely depend on the extent to which these functions are developed and the industry wish to take advantage of them. These matters will become clearer when the Commission, after consulting the interests concerned, submit their levy scheme to Ministers, and before the scheme is considered by Parliament.The additional cost to the Exchequer in respect of the salaries and allowances of Commission members is expected to be less than £50,000 per annum.

Cyclamates

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what study he has made of the Report by the Food and Health Organisation Scientific Group on Procedures for Investigating Food Additives, a copy of which has been sent to him, which advises that a very high margin of safety for food additives in food which may show wide variations in daily intake; and whether he will give an assurance that these recommendations will be taken into account when considering to what extent the addition of cyclamates as artificial sweeteners may have dangerous toxic consequences.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply today to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Brentford and Chiswick (Mr. Barnes) in which I announced my decision on the use of cyclamates in food. In arriving at its recommendations on cyclamates, the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee certainly had in mind the various considerations which are mentioned in the report to which he refers and also those set out in the Memorandum on Procedure for Submissions on Food Additives and On Methods of Toxicity Testing published by H.M.S.O. in 1965.

Bacon (Home Production)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that home producers will fulfil their quota in 1967 of the Bacon Sharing Agreement; and if he will make a statement.

Home production of bacon since April has been below the rate necessary to fulfil the minimum allocation for 1967–68. I cannot predict the final outcome but I am sure that the home industry, with the help of the stabilisation scheme, is doing its best to increase its output.

Beef Production (Imported Irish Cattle)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals he now has to protect United Kingdom beef producers from substantially adverse effects of importation of beef cattle from the Republic of Ireland.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I have given today to the hon. Member for Rye (Mr. Bryant Godman Irvine) and others.

Scotland

Electricity Pumped Storage (Coal Consumption)

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, following his decision to authorise the construction of a nuclear generating station at Hunterston, what estimate he has made of the additional coal consumption likely to be needed for further pumped storage in Scotland.

I can offer no helpful estimate until the Scottish Electricity Boards submit proposals to me for the provision of generating capacity after the commissioning of Hunterston "B".

Sports Centre And Stadium, Edinburgh (Grant)

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has yet decided what special sum will be made available to Edinburgh for the construction of a sports centre and swimming pool in connection with the Commonwealth Games to be held in that city in 1970.

I am glad to say that, subject to the authorisation of the necessary funds by Parliament, the Government will be prepared to make a grant of £750,000 towards the cost of the sports centre and stadium at Meadowbank estimated to cost £2·2 million. Grant towards the swimming pool would not be justified.

Commercial And Retail Establish- Ments (Rate Burden Inquiry)

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will set up a committee to inquire into the rating burdens of commercial and retail establishments in Scottish cities, in view of the closure of several such establishments and the additional burdens which these closures will place on other ratepayers.

Sea Fishing Industry (Galloway)

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what measures he is taking to revive the sea fishing industry in Galloway.

Fishermen based in Galloway are eligible for all forms of financial and other assistance generally available to the sea fishing industry.

Family Planning

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultations he has held with local authorities concerning the desirability of broadening the scope of their family planning arrangements with appropriate legislation on the lines of the Bill before Parliament in respect of England and Wales.

None The Bill which received the Royal Assent last month was a Private Member's Bill; and as has already been made clear in another place, I would look sympathetically on any similar Private Members' Bill suitably adapted to Scottish circumstances.

Historic Buildings, Edinburgh (Legislation)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he intends to introduce legislation to ensure the effective preservation of buildings listed as being of architectural and historic importance in the City of Edinburgh.

As we announced in our recent White Paper on town and country planning, the Government intend to make further improvements in the statutory protection afforded to buildings of special historic or architectural interest. The necessary Scottish legislation will be introduced when the Parliamentary programme permits.

Emigration

68.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what information he has regarding the level of emigration from Scotland during the year to 30th June, 1967.

The Registrar-General has estimated that the net migration loss from Scotland during the six months ended 31st December, 1966 was 23,600–16,100 to overseas countries and 7,500 to the rest of the United Kingdom. The estimate for the full year to 30th June, 1967 should be available towards the end of this year.

Local Authority Services (Interest Charges)

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the interest charges on housing and other services, respectively, paid by each local authority in 1963–64 and 1965–66.

The figures for each county city and large burgh council are set out in the table below. The extraction of similar particulars for each of the 175 small burghs would require undue time

1963–641965–66
HousingOther ServicesHousingOther Services
COUNTY COUNCIL
Aberdeen312,881243,782369,548326,653
Angus84,825139,237101,650200,754
Argyll197,182126,405259,737188,505
Ayr1,186,903344,0051,396,788560,141
Banff40,68836,28041,89237,454
Berwick45,01964,58144,54268,588
Bute19,35317,21816,854*20,974*
Caithness65,940105,58280,351141,453
Clackmannan141,89764,572174,843111,551
Dumfries179,463135,752203,292183,023
Dunbarton435,922381,017572,256685,076
East Lothian129,28068,410192,729108,004
Fife812,432600,411979,835814,605
Inverness177,798161,976230,185219,993
Kincardine39,98036,50650,94258,764
Kinross8,3502,17010,1042,953
Kirkcudbright65,90670,80471,76490,807
Lanark1,976,102962,8822,713,8621,377,615
Midlothian514,781285,864608,023454,028
Moray58,1668,92263,61611,265
Moray and Nairn30,48548,249
Nairn8,2632,49510,2082,901
Orkney19629,19131735,130
Peebles15,48121,00316,00327,505
Perth151,97730,966188,31447,699
Perth and Kinross135,868193,433
Renfrew318,409499,990407,359741,327
Ross and Cromarty112,233154,468180,138233,739
Roxburgh51,11571,44352,05379,347
Selkirk2,18349,5432,75677,775
Stirling938,666367,3071,148,565530,414
Sutherland53,16355,30164,92777,523
West Lothian471,394145,081637,904265,122
Wigtown68,72647,02091,33392,667
Zetland39,23933,87644,56654,878
COUNCILS OF CITIES AND LARGE BURGHS
Aberdeen1,076,273508,7171,436,181688,454
Airdrie298,28433,315370,48639,807
Arbroath128,78127,634179,75139,666
Ayr334,06934,312406,39874,296
Clydebank365,10641,138610,42269,672
Coatbridge474,68857,121656,96772,498
Dumbarton190,98816,858221,98430,505
Dumfries288,47764,095335,60383,689
Dundee1,268,647406,6671,742,311636,852
Dunfermline319,13630,771347,74537,488
Edinburgh2,238,9611,160,6903,139,5011,614,009
Falkirk301,56683,737367,541154,289
Glasgow6,740,6762,652,7099,141,6274,082,456
Greenock464,471105,028623,557162,157
Hamilton326,98622,780421,61444,005
Inverness110,43954,088173,47173,771
Kilmarnock404,42648,841454,99078,307
Kirkcaldy468,36475,442662,193111,353
Motherwell and Wishaw684,90366,3961,148,677114,415
Paisley742,999111,616931,031149,971
Perth313,06776,564387,128101,351
Port Glasgow153,38125,424220,89738,790
Rutherglen174,37312,986210,35517,790
Stirling201,91230,264271,40442,868
TOTALS
Counties8,723,9135,530,41311,027,2568,169,915
Large Burghs18,070,9735,747,19324,461,8348,558,459
Small Burghs5,989,801843,1517,802,3221,280,398
Other258,000850,588
All Authorities32,784,68712,378,75743,291,41218,859,360
* 1964–65.

and labour, but the table gives totals for all local authorities in Scotland, including the councils of small burgh.

Indictable Offences

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the numbers of murders, attempts to murder, threats or conspiracy to murder, wounding, malicious wounding, offences involving firearms, and robberies in which firearms were carried in each of the three

EdinburghGlasgowAberdeenDundeeRest of Scotland
MurderAttempts to murderMurderAttempts to murderMurderAttempts to murderMurderAttempts to murderMurderAttempts to murder
196423121232384
1965331820213109
1966211412211115

Polaris Base, Faslane (Local Authority Expenditure)

70.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what expenditure has been incurred by local authorities in the neighbourhood of the Polaris base at Faslane on roads, water supplies and other services consequent upon the establishment of the base and the missile depot there.

Except in regard to housing provided by Dunbarton County Council, expenditure by local authorities on services due to the establishment of the base cannot be separated from their expenditure due to other developments in the area. So far the County Council has incurred expenditure of £1·5 million on houses, which are to be leased to the Ministry of Defence at full economic rents.

Medical Schools (Vacancies)

71.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give, for the last convenient 12-month period, the number of vacancies in medical schools at the universities in Scotland and the number of applicants for such places, respectively; and what steps he is taking to ensure that those wishing to train as doctors are not restricted by lack of facilities at the universities.

In October, 1966, 590 students entered pre-clinical medical courses at universities in Scotland, but full information is not available on the number of applicants. The provision to

past years to the nearest convenient date, in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee, on the one hand, and the rest of Scotland, on the other.

I regret that information is not available under these classifications except for murders and attempts to murder. The number of these crimes made known in Scotland involves the following table of figures:be made for the training of doctors is at present under consideration by the Royal Commission on Medical Education.

Rating System

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has to reform or refine the rating system in Scotland.

The Government have already introduced new arrangements for rate rebates and rate support grant. Further proposals must await the report of the Royal Commissions on Local Government.

Adventure And Educational Projects (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many and which, adventure and educational centres in the Highlands have been accorded grants by the Highland Development Board in the last financial year.

In the year 1966–67 the Board approved 17 grants totalling £12,326 for adventure or educational projects. These cover a variety of activities, including sport, drama, hostels, crafts, and include two small grants for field or holiday centres for school children at Inverlair Lodge, Lochaber and at Inveralligin, Ross-shire.

Tourist Industry (Selective Employment Tax)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what action he is taking upon the recommendation in the annual report for 1966–67 of the Scottish Tourist Board that the effect of the Selective Employment Tax upon the tourist industry requires immediate reconsideration;(2) what proposals he has for the Scottish tourist industry, in the light of the finding in the report for 1966–67 of the Scottish Tourist Board, that the introduction of the Selective Employment Tax forced a number of hoteliers to dispense with staff whom they would normally have retained during the winter and also served to aggravate the industry's staffing difficulties.

Clause 25 of the Finance Bill, which gives a rebate of half the tax paid in respect of part-time employees, is a result of the continuous watch which the Government are keeping on the effects of the tax.

Glenfeshie Road

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to announce approval of plans and expenditure to enable work to be started on construction of the Glenfeshie road linking Aberdeenshire and Inverness-shire.

There is nothing I can add at present to the Answer I gave the hon. Member on 9th November, 1966.—[Vol. 735, c. 1295.]

Dredging Vessel

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the shortage of orders in the Clyde shipbuilding yards, he will give an assurance that the new dredger shortly to be ordered by the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland will be built on the Clyde.

I shall shortly invite competitive tenders for building this vessel and until these have been received and considered I cannot say where the contract will be placed.

Nhs Superannuation Scheme (Government Actuary's Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the Report by the Government Actuary on his investigation of the National Health Service Super- annuation Scheme for Scotland for the seven-year period ended 31st March, 1962, will be published.

The Report will be published tomorrow and copies will be placed in the Library.

Halliday Committee (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a further statement about the Halliday Report on Conveyancing Legislation and Practice.

I have been considering this Report with the Lord Advocate in the light of comments I have received on it from interested organisations. As a result I have decided that there should be an intensive examination of the possibility of major reform of the Scottish system of land tenure itself (the system of land tenure was not of course within the remit of the Halliday Committee). I have authorised officials to enter into consultation with the main bodies concerned with land transactions and conveyancing in Scotland with a view to developing proposals for this purpose, and I shall be consulting the Scottish Law Commission.

Ministry Of Defence

Territorial Army Emergency Reserve Bounty (Personal Cases)

73.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will set up an independent inquiry into the administrative arrangements by the Territorial Army, whereby Lance-Corporal Handy and four other non-commissioned officers of the Royal Gloucestershire Hussars, were not paid Territorial Army Emergency Reserve Bounty in 1966 although they were under the impression that they were liable to call-out.

No. I have made a full investigation into the circumstances in which Lance-Corporal Handy and four other N.C.O.s of the Royal Gloucestershire Hussars were not paid a Territorial Army Emergency Reserve bounty in 1966 and I passed the results of my inquiries to the hon. Member when I wrote to him on 23rd May, 1967. I do not intend to set up an independent inquiry.

Mr Murphy

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he proposes to reply to the letters of the hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion, concerning the case of Mr. Murphy, now under detention in Portsmouth.

Service Widow's Pension

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why widows of members of the Armed Forces who remarry and are again bereaved are subject to a means test before a decision is taken on the restoration of their original widow's pension.

Examination of the widow's circumstances is the accepted practice in the public sector. My right hon. Friend has re-examined the question, but decided that a change in the rules would not be justified.

Royal Naval Dockyards (Cmnd 3357)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he expects the effect of the Defence White Paper, Command Paper No. 3357, to be on the work load in each of the Royal Naval Dockyards in Great Britain.

Some readjustments in the refitting programmes will be necessary, but we expect all four home dockyards to remain fully loaded for some years to come.

Royal Ordnance Factory, Swynnerton

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will now make a further statement on the review of the use of the former Royal Ordnance factory sites at Swynnerton.

I wrote to the right hon. Gentleman on 20th July explaining that we propose to use the derelict areas and the hutted camp for training. The surplus factory and office buildings to the south east of the site will be put up for disposal.

Recruiting Advertisements (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give the sums spent by his Department on recruiting advertisements during the years 1962 to 1966 and the sums he expects to spend during the current financial year.

The sums spent by and on behalf of the Ministry of Defence are as follows:

£
1962–63(actual)1,753,077
1963–64(actual)1,803,365
1964–65(actual)2,467,477
1965–66(actual)2,725,455
1966–67(probable out-turn)2,864,626
1967–68(estimated)3,000,000

Mr Leslie Parkes

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now expedite the publication of the results of his inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the arrest and discharge of Leslie Parkes in February last.

It would not be right for me to make any statement while there is a possibility that Mr. Parkes may appeal against his sentence.

Transport

Reflective Number Plates

75.

asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to introduce regulations allowing the use of reflective number plates.

As soon as the British Standard for reflective material has been agreed and interested bodies have been consulted.

Vehicle Excise Duty

76.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will study the possibilities of taxing motor vehicles on the basis of a factor related to the surface area of the wheel in contact with the road.

We do not think a detailed study would be worth while. A preliminary examination indicates that such a system would be both impracticable and detrimental to road safety.

77.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will study the possibility of taxing motor vehicles on the basis of a factor related to the wheel loadings of the vehicle.

The Department is engaged in various studies of the factors affecting costs imposed by motor vehicles, but any question of taxation is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Disabled Drivers (National Car Badge Scheme)

78.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the advice she has now given to local authorities after completing her review of the nationally approved scheme for special car badges for disabled drivers; if she is satisfied that this will lead to the national recognition of the badges issued by different local authorities; and if she will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend the Minister of Health and I have completed our review of the National Car Badge Scheme for disabled drivers and are now consulting with the local authority associations on the form of advice to be issued to local traffic and welfare authorities.The badges issued under the Scheme confer no legal rights; and I am aware that in certain areas, in particular in Central London where the traffic and parking problems are severe, it has not always been possible to extend to all disabled drivers the privileges that have come to be associated with the Scheme. But I am satisfied that the Scheme receives nation-wide recognition; and that, as a result of the ready means of identifying disabled drivers which it provides, it affords them a real measure of assistance.

Car Registrations (Models And Makes)

79.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in publishing the monthly car registration figures, she will break them down by model and make, as is the practice in most other countries.

This information is already made available by the Department to the motor manufacturers and concessionaires concerned through a scheme operated by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders. Since particulars of models and makes relate to the business of individual undertakings, it would not be the practice in this country for the figures to be published without the consent of the firms concerned.

Terrell Plan For Road Safety

80.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in consideration of further proposals arising out of Road Safety—a Fresh Approach, she will take into account the merits of the Terrell Plan for Road Safety, a copy of which is in her possession.

No. As my hon. Friend explained to the hon. Member last week, we do not consider that Mr. Terrell's plan offers a way of reducing road accidents.—[Vol. 750, c. 314.]

81.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, while considering the proposed new Highway Code, she will seek to put the force of law behind seven of the most important driving rules envisaged in the Terrell Plan for Road Safety, a copy of which is in her possession.

No. This would be inappropriate for the Highway Code, which aims to guide and advise, rather than coerce.

Articulated Vehicles

85.

asked the Minister of Transport if she has completed her consideration of the danger to the driver when an articulated lorry executes a turning movement owing to the fact that no mechanism exists in many vehicles to prevent the heavier near part swinging round and overturning the driver's cabin sometimes with fatal results; and if she will now take steps to prevent this type of accident in the future.

Loss of directional control of articulated vehicles, involving tail swing or jack-knifing, is a complicated matter and development and testing of various means of preventing it will continue for some time. Extensive testing under normal operating conditions is necessary before the value of mechanical solutions can be fully assessed.A proper balance of braking effort between axles is the first requirement and provisions for achieving this have now been included in the Code of Practice for the new vehicle brakes which the manufacturers have agreed to follow.

Uninsured Drivers (Disqualification)

86.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will introduce legislation to provide for the automatic disqualification from driving of persons who are convicted for driving while uninsured.

No. The circumstances of the offence vary so much that disqualification is not appropriate in every case. The courts already have power to disqualify for driving while uninsured when the circumstances warrant it. In addition the offence is included in the totting up system.

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Noise)

asked the Minister of Transport why her new draft regulations on vehicle noise permit lorries to be noisier than recommended by the Wilson Committee in 1962.

The limits proposed in the new regulations are lower than those recommended by the Wilson Committee except for heavy goods vehicles, for which a limit four decibels higher than that suggested by the Wilson Committee is proposed.Two decibels are accounted for by changes in the methods of testing. A vehicle which made 85 decibels under the test procedure accepted at the time of the Wilson Committee would register 87 decibels under the new testing procedure.The further difference of two decibels is necessary initially because it would not be reasonable to require some of the heavy commercial vehicles now in production to comply initially with the Wilson Committee levels since they would require major redesign. The level now proposed is in line with that approved by the Economic Commission for Europe. My right hon. Friend will be proposing more stringent standards to the Commission.

Roads

Great Chertsey Road (Footbridge)

82.

asked the Minister of Transport when she will permit the Greater London Council to erect a pedestrian footbridge across the Great Chertsey Road, A316 and to put a 40 miles-per-hour speed limit from the Winning Post public-house to the boundary with the London Borough of Hounslow.

My right hon. Friend has agreed to make a grant of 75 per cent. of the approved cost of a footbridge across the Great Chertsey Road at the "Hope and Anchor" roundabout. This grant can be issued when we are advised of the current estimated cost of the scheme.We are also prepared to agree that a 40 miles-per-hour speed limit may be imposed on this road between the Winning Post and the Hospital Bridge Road roundabout, subject to conditions, and will so advise the Greater London Council.

Channel Tunnel

83.

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now make a further statement about progress with the arrangements which are under consideration for the financing and construction of the Channel Tunnel.

Provisional proposals for financing and managing the construction of the tunnel have been submitted by each of the three groups invited to do so. When the proposals have been studied by British and French officials, detailed discussions will begin with the three groups.

Severn Bridge (Vehicle Removals)

84.

asked the Minister of Transport how many broken-down vehicles were removed from the Severn Bridge during the Easter weekend and the Spring Bank Holiday weekend; and whether the daily rate of breakdowns during these weekends was greater than the average daily rate.

Nineteen vehicles from Good Friday to Easter Monday, and eighteen during the Spring Bank-holiday weekend. This is much higher than the average daily rate.

Box Junctions

asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for increasing the number of box junctions in London; and, in particular, whether she will instal them at the junctions of Oxford Street and Davies Street, W.1, and Bond Street and Brook Street, W.1.

We have invited local highway authorities to put in box junctions wherever they are needed throughout the country. Overall responsibility for such markings in London rests with the Greater London Council as traffic authority.I understand that they and the London Boroughs have plans for increasing the number of box junctions considerably as soon as the necessary arrangements can be made. The two sites mentioned will be included in the list of sites under consideration by the Greater London Council in consultation with the police and the London Boroughs.

A38 (Accidents)

asked the Minister of Transport how many deaths and serious injuries occurred in each of the last five years on the A38 between Droitwich and the road junction at Martin Hussingtree.

The information is as follows:

Years ending 31st July
19631964196519661967 (to date)
Fatal22
Serious injury315313*
* Nine of these occurred in one accident (which also caused the two fatalities) on the 15th July, 1967; the injured were sent home after hospital treatment

Parking (Approach Roads To London Railway Stations)

asked the Minister of Transport why she allows parking on each side of the approach roads to the main London stations; and if she will take steps to see that one side parking alone is permitted.

This is a matter for the Greater London Council as traffic authority, or for the British Railways Board if the hon. Member has in mind the approach roads within the curtilage of the railway stations.

Spine Road (South West)

asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the recommendations of the South-West Economic Planning Council in "A Region with a Future", if she will take steps to ensure the completion of an adequate spine road in the South West by 1975.

We are carefully studying the Planning Council's Report. Their views on the spine road are of course already well known to us. There is, however, nothing I can usefully add at this stage to what has already been announced.

M62 And M56 (Manchester Ringway Airport)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware that road access to the Manchester Ringway Airport is inadequate and that plans for developing the motorways M62 and M56 which could provide the necessary relief have been seriously delayed; and what plans exist at the present time to speed up the necessary work on these motorways.

We are aware of the contribution which these proposed motorways will make to improve access to the Airport. Construction will begin as soon as the preparatory work, including the statutory procedures and land acquisition, can be completed.

Railways

Payments In Lieu Of Rates

asked the Minister of Transport what annual contribution has been made by British Railways in lieu of rates in Scotland and England and Wales, respectively, in each of the last six years; and what estimate she has made of the amounts which will be paid in the current year.

The information is as follows:—

ScotlandEngland and Wales
££
1961–62182,1102,838,363
1962–63181,4802,980,107
1963–64189,3562,397,824
1964–65197,9641,734,999
1965–66195,3481,849,467
1966–67207,4672,056,602
The figures for 1961–62 and 1962–63 relate to payments made by the British Transport Commission, and include payments in respect of waterways and London Transport railways.As regards 1967–68 the payment in respect of England and Wales will be £2,218,288. The payment in respect of Scotland is expected to be about the same as in 1966–67.

Board Of Trade

Foodstuffs (Dumped Or Subsidised Imports)

87.

asked the President of the Board of Trade by what criteria it is his policy to decide on the admission of dumped and subsidised exports of foodstuffs.

Before anti-dumping or countervailing duties can be imposed the Board of Trade must be satisfied that dumped or subsidised imports are causing or threatening material injury to an industry in the United Kingdom, and that the imposition of duties would be in the national interest. The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food is always consulted and given full opportunity to advise.

Films (Anglo-Italian Agreement)

88.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will give an assurance that he will not sign a film co-production treaty with the Italian Government, unless such treaty embraces and embodies the terms discussed between the British and Italian film producers and film trade unions.

No. The draft agreement already embodies much of what was agreed at the inter-industry discussions.

European Economic Community (White Paper)

89.

asked the President of the Board of Trade when he will now publish a White Paper on the trading and industrial consequences of Great Britain's application to join the Common Market.

Unemployment (Prudhoe)

90.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for alleviating unemployment in Prudhoe, Northumberland; and if he will make a statement.

Prudhoe is part of the Northern Development Area and the full range of financial assistance to firms in Development Areas is available there. My Regional Office in Newcastle have full details of the industrial sites in the area, and in all suitable cases are suggesting these for consideration by firms looking for sites.

Leigh, Atherton And Tyldesley (Development Area Status)

91.

asked the President of the Board of Trade in view of the proposals to close Mosley Common Colliery and Bedford Colliery in October and thereby rendering approximately 3,500 men jobless in addition to those who have suffered through progressive mill closures in the Leigh area, if he will now grant development area status to the towns of Leigh, Atherton and Tyldesley.

I am informed that no final decision has yet been taken to close these collieries in October. We are already operating a liberal i.d.c. policy in the area and I do not consider designation at a development area would be justified.

South-Western Development Area (Extension)

92.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether in view of the recommendations of the South-West Economic Planning Council in, A Region with a Future, he is considering the extension of the South-Western Development Area.

This and other recommendations in the Report will be given careful consideration.

East Germany (British Trade Consultations)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in the light of the Protocol to the Treaty of Rome regarding East German trade with the German Federal Republic, he proposes to consult with both German Governments to clarify the implications of that Protocol for British trade with East Germany following Great Britain's accession to the European Economic Community.

Contraceptives (Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will now take the necessary steps to prevent the import of contraceptives which do not meet the appropriate standard of quality laid down by British Standards Specification No. 3704.

I have no evidence that such goods are imported. In any case the Board of Trade use their powers to control imports only for economic or commercial purposes in the broad national interest.

Banks Incorporated Abroad (Legislation)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in the light of recent experience, he will introduce legislation requiring any company registered outside the United Kingdom and calling itself a bank to obtain the permission of the Board of Trade to trade within the United Kingdom.

In preparing a further Companies Bill I will consider the recommendation of the Jenkins Committee that the Board of Trade should have power to control the name of a company, incorporated abroad and having a place of business in Great Britain, when the name is undesirable on grounds other than similarity.

Advance Factories

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is satisfied that progress in the planning and building of advance factories is being accelerated in order urgently to provide work to areas of high unemployment such as Wales; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. Everyone concerned is conscious of the need to get advance factories ready for occupation as quickly as practicable and the position is watched closely.

Factory Floor Space, Wales (Industrial Development Certificates)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the amount of factory floor space covered by industrial development certificates allocated to Wales this year to the latest available date.

Take-Over Bids

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will take steps to regulate the manner in which take-over bids are conducted.

I will consider the recommendations of the Jenkins Committee on this matter in preparing the further Companies Bill which I hope to introduce in the present Parliament.

Investment Grants (Extractive Industries)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is now ready to invite claims for investment grants on mining works; and whether he will make a statement.

Yes. The Board of Trade have completed their discussions with bodies representing interests in the extractive industries about the scope of investments grants for mining works. Application forms and explanatory material relating to them are now being printed and will be available in the five Investment Grant Offices on 1st September. Claims covering expenditure on mining works incurred during the period 17th January to 31st December, 1966, can be submitted from 1st September onwards. The payment of grants in respect of this expenditure will begin as soon as possible after 1st October, 1967.

Aviation

Southend Airport (Noise)

93.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he is taking to ensure that the best technical means are employed to minimise the noise nuisance caused by jet aircraft using Southend Municipal Airport, and also to limit night flying by such aircraft.

My right hon. Friend has no powers to impose at Southend Airport noise abatement measures on aircraft in flight or to limit the number of night movements. Officials of my Department are, however, discussing the noise problem with the aerodrome management and have suggested a number of measures to reduce the disturbance.

Civil Aircraft (Noise Standards)

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he will introduce further restrictions on the noise-level of aircraft which are licensed to fly over Great Britain;(2) what maximum decibel level he intends to lay down for air traffic over densely populated areas.

As I announced in answer to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Putney (Mr. Hugh Jenkins) on 17th April, I have decided to introduce a scheme of aircraft noise certification under which future civil aircraft, operating in this country, will be required to obtain a certificate from the Board of Trade or from an appropriate foreign authority saying that they can comply with certain noise standards. Details of the scheme are now being worked out in consultation with the aircraft and engine manufacturers, airlines and other interests in this country, and with the French and United States authorities. I cannot at present say what noise levels will be specified. I shall of course continue to take all other practicable steps to minimise noise disturbance.—[Vol. 745, c. 24–5.]

Airlines (Height And Noise Prosecutions)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps are taken against airlines which contravene height or noise limits; and how many such steps have been taken in the past year.

Airlines which infringe height limits imposed by or under the Rules of the Air and Air Traffic Control Regulations, 1966, are liable to prosecution. There were no such prosecutions in the year ended 30th June, 1967. Airlines which infringe the Board of Trade's requirements under Section 14 of the Airports Authority Act, 1965, for limiting and mitigating the effect of noise and vibration caused by aircraft using the aerodromes owned by the British Airports Authority are requested (except when the infringement is very small) to provide a full explanation and to take steps to avoid a recurrence. In the case of persistent offenders the Board of Trade could direct the British Airports Authority to deny or limit the use of the airport by the aircraft or persons concerned, but so far this has not been found necessary. During the twelve months ended 30th June, 1967, airlines were requested to give explanations in respect of 265 infringements at Heathrow (about 0.4 per cent. of the flights monitored).

Sub-Regional Airport, South West (Survey Cost)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if, in view of the recommendations of the South-West Economic Planning Council in A Region with a Future, he will contribute to the cost of a survey aimed at establishing the feasibility and merits of the alternative choices for a sub-regional airport in the far South West.

Yes. The Government are prepared to make a contribution towards the cost of the survey mentioned in the report "Region with a future" recently produced by the South-West Economic Planning Council. The Council and the local authorities have been told about this.

Wales

Pedestrian Crossings

94.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many extra pedestrian crossings have been authorised in Wales since the announcement of last February that more would be permitted; and whether he will make a statement about the future number.

Three additional pedestrian crossings have been authorised in Wales since February. I am considering with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport the terms of a circular of guidance to local authorities concerning the arrangements which will determine the number of pedestrian crossings in the future.

Mid-Wales Development Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give an assurance that the members of the proposed Mid-Wales Development Corporation will be drawn predominantly from Mid-Wales.

In appointing members of the Corporation my aim will be to choose persons having the kind of knowledge and experience which are likely to be of most value to the town and who would make an effective team. As required by the Act, I shall certainly have regard to the desirability of securing the services of one or more persons resident in or having special knowledge of the locality and will consult the local authorities most closely concerned before making any appointments.

Road Programme (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will state the total amount of forward expenditure on all road programmes in Wales, taking into account the White Paper on the Welsh Economy entitled The Way Ahead, and his announcements on 28th June.

The £200 million programme mentioned in paragraph 55 of the White Paper covers major works of construction and improvement of motorways and trunk roads in the 1970's and beyond. I announced the first £19 million worth of these schemes on 13th March and a further £3 million worth on 28th June. Excluding these schemes the present programme contains £49 million worth of major trunk road schemes including the Chepstow inner relief road which I announced on 28th June.The principal road programme at present contains £25 million worth of major schemes of which £17 million worth should be carried out by the early 1970's including the Milford Haven high level bridge which I announced on 28th June.There will in addition be substantial expenditure on smaller schemes on trunk and principal roads throughout Wales and expenditure on roads of less importance financed entirely by local authorities with assistance from the rate support grant.

Economic Plan

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the fact that the number of persons unemployed in Wales on 12th June was the highest for the month of June in any year since the war, if he will produce, as a matter of urgency, an economic plan to set in motion the balanced development of Wales.

The Government's policies for promoting the balanced development of Wales are set out in the White Paper (Cmnd. 3334) published on 19th July.

Spain (Imprisoned British Subjects)

95.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations have been made to the Spanish Government protesting against the severe sentences imposed on two British citizens for theft; and what was the outcome of such representations.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my answer on 19th July to my hon. Friend the Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Alan Lee Williams).—[Vol. 750, c. 284–5.]

Hong Kong

96.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in view of the fact that Taiwan is prepared to provide Hong Kong with all daily necessities such as rice, meat, vegetables and fruits during the present period of unrest, whether he will send a suitable acknowledgment of this gesture to the Provincial Government and the people of Taiwan.

To my knowledge, the Taiwan authorities have made no direct approach to us to supply food to Hong Kong. The question of an acknowledgment does not therefore arise.

British Ships (Great Bitter Lake)

97.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what arrangements he is making to assist British shiping companies to send relief skeleton crews to British ships marooned in the Great Bitter Lake by the closure of the Suez Canal.

A member of the Canadian Embassy staff in Cairo who look after British interests was able to visit all four British ships now in the Great Bitter Lake on 23rd July. Apart from one or two minor ailments we understand that the crews are in good health, and one of the captains has reported that morale is high. I understand that the Master of the "Port Invercargill" about whose health there has been some concern, has received medical attention from a doctor who is now visiting the ships twice a week and that Captain Conby has been instructed by the ship's owners to return to this country. Deliveries of food, mail and other supplies have been reaching the ships through the local agents. The ships' owners are making arrangements with the Egyptian authorities for the relief of the crews and we are in close touch with them about this.

Aden

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether male civil servants in Aden are occupying quarters previously occupied by their wives and families; and what steps are being taken for their protection.

All officers have now been removed from the less secure areas, and those thought to be particularly exposed to terrorist attack are being accommodated in increasing numbers in service compounds as and when quarters become available.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what separation allowances have been promised to civil servants employed by his Department in Aden following upon the removal of their families to England without notice; and what estimate has been made of the additional expenses incurred by such families.

Clothing and subsistence allowances are payable to eligible wives and children who have been evacuated from Aden at short notice. The arrangements follow those adopted for dealing with families evacuated from other territories. No estimate can be made of individual expenses since these vary between families.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what arrangements have been made by his Department to store furniture belonging to families of Aden civil servants; and on what date it is expected that their belongings will be delivered to England, by whom and at whose expense.

The personal effects of officers and their families who have left or who are about to leave Aden are securely stored in military areas awaiting shipment. The Government will bear the cost of transporting personal effects up to the limits prescribed by the officers' terms of service. I cannot say when this baggage will be delivered to England since shipping space is scarce but every effort is being made to secure its early arrival.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in view of the fact that insurers now refuse to accept liability in respect of furniture and personal possessions belonging to civil servants stationed in Aden, what plans he has to cover civil servants against risks not of their own making.

Although some insurance companies have discontinued insurance on the furniture and personal effects of civil servants stationed in Aden other companies are still providing cover. I am having the problem studied.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs on what date terminal payments to civil servants previously employed on contract in Aden are to be made; and if their salaries have been paid up to date.

Payment of terminal benefits and salaries to these officers was delayed by the disturbances in Crater which closed the Government Treasury and Income Tax Department. The amounts due are now in the course of being cleared and will be paid shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what differences in entitlement to separation allowances exist in Aden between officials of his Department and those of the Commonwealth Office.

Wives and children of civilian officials employed by the local governments who have been evacuated from Aden in advance of their husbands are eligible for a clothing and subsistence allowance. Wives and children who have been unable to take with them their normal entitlement of baggage may be reimbursed necessary expenditure on extra clothing up to a maximum of £20 for a wife and £10 for each child under the age of 19. If a family has to stay in an hotel or boarding house, pending return to their own home or the purchase or renting of normal family accommodation, subsistence allowances of £3 a day for the wife and £2 a day for each child under the age of 19 are payable for the first 30 days and two-thirds of these amounts for the succeeding 60 days.The arrangements for members of the Diplomatic Service in similar circumstances are that the officer remaining at his post continues to receive his married overseas allowance but no payments are made to him in respect of his family's accommodation in the United Kingdom, or for the purchase by them of clothing or any other item.

Oder-Neisse Line

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware that, on his recent visit to Bonn, General de Gaulle called upon Chancellor Kiesinger to recognise the Oder-Neisse line as a means of ensuring peace in Europe; and whether, as a means of showing support for General de Gaulle and thereby assisting the United Kingdom's entry into the Common Market, he will notify the West German Chancellor and General de Gaulle that Great Britain supports this policy.

I cannot comment on private discussions between President de Gaulle and Chancellor Kiesinger. As regards Her Majesty's Government's policy on the Oder-Neisse Line I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member for Bebington (Mr. Brooks) on the 11th April. —[Vol. 744, c. 164–5.]

Home Department

Northern Ireland Fishermen (Protection)

98.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what protection he is affording to net salmon fishermen off and around the Northern Irish coast.

Northern Ireland fishermen can expect the same kind of protection as that afforded to fishermen in other parts of the United Kingdom. If the hon. Member has in mind a particular case, I shall be glad to look into it if he will send me details, and if it lies within my responsibility.

Prison Journeys (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the cost of the hire of the motor coach used to transport prisoners from Wandsworth to Parkhurst and from Parkhurst to Wandsworth; and what was the cost of the transport used on the remainder of Adam Ogilvie's journey to Perth Prison and return to Parkhurst.

The cost of the motor coach for the round trip from Parkhurst to Wandsworth was approximately £30; and that of the transport from Wandsworth to Perth and back approximately £70. At no stage of the journey was Ogilvie the sole passenger.

Commonwealth Immigration Act

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the half million unemployed, and the danger there will be over one million unemployed next winter, if he will introduce legislation to amend the Commonwealth Immigration Act, and forbid all immigration until Her Majesty's Government's policy of full employment has been achieved.

Otters

99.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware that there is danger of the otter becoming extinct in Great Britain; and what action he proposes to take to prevent this.

My information is that the otter is in no danger of extinction at present.

Prison Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has to increase prison earnings, in order to facilitate his proposal that prisoners should pay restitution.

As the efficiency of prison industries improves, earnings are being increased. The question of reparation by the offender is under consideration by the Advisory Council on the Penal System.

House Of Commons (Recording Of Debates)

asked the Lord President of the Council what changes in the method of recording debates in the House are being considered.

Mr. Speaker has agreed to a recommendation of the Select Committee on House of Commons (Services) that the Editor of Debates should be allowed to conduct an experiment of using tape-recording instead of shorthand writers in the House during morning sittings. It is hoped to begin the experiment immediately after the Recess. The experiment is made necessary owing to the increasing difficulty of recruiting shorthand writers of sufficient skill to record our debates.

Criminal Offences (Consent Of Director Of Public Prosecutions)

asked the Attorney-General in respect of how many different criminal offences the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions must be obtained before a prosecution is commenced; how many of these were added in each of the years 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967; how many applications were made to the Director of Public Prosecutions for consent to commence proceedings where such consent is required in each of the years 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967; and on how many occasions such consent was refused in each of these years.

Prosecutions for criminal offences under 13 different statutes require exclusively the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions. Only one of these provisions, section 9(7) of the Building Control Act, 1966, was added during the years 1964 to 1967. There are an additional 19 statutes under which the consent of the Director is an alternative to the consent of some other named person, usually the appropriate Minister.To obtain the figures of the number of applications made to the Director during the years 1964 to 1967, and of the number of refusals of consent during that period, would involve a considerable amount of work and expense which would not in my view be justified.

Commonwealth Affairs

Nigeria (British Subjects)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs, in view of the fact that an English businessman in Nigeria has been arrested four times on false charges, details of which have been sent to him by the hon. Member for Louth, what action he is now taking to protect English lives and property in Nigeria and to assist those who wish to return home.

I understand that the businessman in question has since returned home to this country from Nigeria. As regards the last part of this Question, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Commonwealth Secretary gave in the House on 11th July. Since then British subjects in Eastern Nigeria have been advised by our High Commission to leave unless their jobs are essential.—[Vol. 750, c. 423.]

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what effect the Beira blockade has had upon the total oil supplies which reached Rhodesia during the last 12 months.

The Royal Naval Patrol, operating in the Mozambique Channel in conformity with the United Nations Resolution No. 221 of 9th April, 1966, has been successful in denying Rhodesia her traditional supplies of crude oil, has forced the refinery at Umtali to remain closed, and as a consequence has compelled the régime to seek alternative and more expensive supplies of petroleum and to continue to ration petrol.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what will be the effect of the Defence White Paper, Command Paper No. 3357, on Her Majesty's Government's policy in Rhodesia.

Education And Science

Pupils (Schools In Welsh-Speaking Areas)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what arrangements are made in Wales for pupils following the Welsh modern language course at the advanced level in schools in heavily anglicised districts to spend a period of time in schools in Welsh-speaking areas.

Questions relating to curriculum in schools are matters for local education authorities. I understand that certain secondary schools in two anglicised areas in Wales have made arrangements for placing pupils for a period in schools in predominantly Welsh-speaking areas. The Welsh Joint Education Committee are currently considering the possibility of preparing a fuller scheme on these lines.

School Buildings, Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) in view of the fact that only 25 per cent. of the schoolchildren of Carmarthenshire and 44 per cent. of Welsh schoolchildren are being educated in post-war buildings, whereas 60 per cent. of the school population of England are educated in schools provided since the war, what plans he has to bring the Carmarthenshire and Welsh level up to the English level;(2) in view of the fact that only 17 per cent. of the children attending the new Welsh medium schools are educated in school buildings provided since the war, whereas 60 per cent. of the school population of England is so educated, what plans he has to raise the Welsh level up to the English level.

It is my intention that all school premises should be brought up to the present-day standards as quickly as resources which are available for school building will allow. In allocating these resources priority has to be given to providing new schools and extensions to existing schools for children who would otherwise have no schools to go to, that is in areas of population growth and new housing. In Wales in general and in Carmarthenshire in particular there is considerably less demand in terms of this basic need for providing roofs over heads than there is in certain areas in England, and this is reflected in the proportion of children in new places.The new Welsh medium schools do not in the great majority of cases reflect an overall increase in school population; consequently they cannot be given priority in allocations over schools required to meet basic needs. The Welsh medium schools are in the main small units, and local education authorities have found it possible to establish them in buildings which have become available as a result of reorganisation of school provision.

Primary And Secondary Education (Deaf And Blind Children)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many places are provided for the primary and secondary education of children who are deaf and blind; and what proposals there are to increase the number of places so provided.

There are 15 places for primary or secondary stage children at Pathways, a special unit attached to Condover School for the Blind, and some younger children are accepted by Sunshine Homes for the Blind. There are also special arangements for younger children at two hospital units; proposals to increase the facilities available for these children are under consideration.

Teachers' Pay (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he will make an announcement about the findings of the arbitral body on teachers' pay.

I have received the report of the arbitral body and have made it available to all interested parties on the Burnham Committee. I am making the necessary arrangements to have the arbitrators' recommendations put into effect in accordance with the provisions of the Remuneration of Teachers Act, 1965. The award will add about £29 million to the annual cost of the salaries of full-time qualified primary and secondary teachers, an increase of about 7 per cent. on the salary levels which have been operative since April, 1965. It will have effect from 1st July, 1967 and will last until 31st March, 1969. I am arranging for copies of the report to be made available in the Library.

Economic Affairs

Sir Joseph Hunt Committee

asked the First Secretary of State and Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what steps he is taking to inform local authorities, and other organisations concerned, in East Anglia of the establishment and functions of Sir Joseph Hunt's Committee so as to enable them to consider suitable representations.

The Chairmen of the Regional Economic Planning Councils have been fully informed by my right hon. Friend of the reasons why the Government decided to set up the Committee under Sir Joseph Hunt. The process of setting up the Committee has not been completed and the procedures for handling its business, which will be primarily for the Committee to decide, have not yet been worked out.

National Finance

Government Contracts (Wales)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in view of the fact that of goods and services purchased by Her Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom only 2 per cent. thereof are purchased and hired in Wales, he will make a study of the position with a view to increasing substantially the percentage of such goods and services purchased or hired in Wales.

A measure of preference is given to firms in Development Areas, including Wales, when Government orders are placed. Wales also benefits from the Government's more general measures in aid of those areas, including the Regional Employment Premium. I intend to keep the position under review.

Collectors Of Taxes (Slow And Bad Payers)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how far it is the practice of collectors of taxes to inform private companies and trade organisations of slow and bad payers; and if he will make a statement.

Direct Investment (Sterling Area)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the amount of direct investment in the sterling area in 1967 up to the latest date for which the information is available.

A reliable area breakdown is not yet available. However, total United Kingdom direct investment overseas in the first quarter of 1967* is estimated to have been £65 million and, following the recent pattern, about 60 per cent. of this total was probably invested in the Overseas Sterling Area.* Including unremitted profits, excluding oil

Confederation Of British Industry (Post-Costing Talks)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what progress he has made in his talks with the Confederation of British Industry over post-costing and equality of information between the Government and contractors; and what action he will take in lieu of any voluntary agreement.

The talks are proceeding, but I am not yet in a position to make a statement about them.

Selective Employment Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the recommendations of the South-West Regional Economic Council in A Region with a Future, if he will take steps to reduce Selective Employment Tax in respect of elderly persons and part-time workers in the hotel and catering industries.

I would draw my hon. Friend's attention to Section 25 of the Finance Act, 1967. I hope this concession will help hotels and catering and other service industries in the South-West and elsewhere. Elderly part-time workers will of course benefit from the concession.

House Of Commons (Catering Sub-Committee)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will provide financial assistance to the Catering Sub-Committee to enable the Department to repay its bank overdraft resulting from losses incurred over the past three years arising from the special problems caused by the need to provide catering facilities to match the parliamentary timetable.

I am prepared to arrange a repayable loan of £50,000 at the normal Government credit rate of interest for short-term loans, to help the Sub-Committee in its present difficulties, and to arrange for discussions on the possibility of a Grant-in-Aid. A Supplementary Estimate to cover any payments will be introduced in due course.

Non-Wool Fabrics (Government Purchases)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state the quantity of imported non-wool fabric bought by Government purchasing Departments in each of the three years 1964, 1965 and 1966; and what percentage of the total purchases this represented in each year.

Pursuant to my reply of 7th July [OFFICIAL REPORT, Vol. 749, c. 298], following is the information:

196419651966
Quantity, in thousand linear yards, of imported non-wool fabric purchased by Government Departments and the General Post Office4471,1894,263
Percentage of the total quantity purchased represented by the above imported quantity1·2%2·7%12·4%
The imports were mostly of unfinished fabrics for finishing in the United Kingdom.

Hospitals

"Sans Everything" (Investigation Of Complaints)

asked the Minister of Health what steps he has now taken to obtain sufficient information from the Association for Aid to the Elderly in Government Institutions to enable full inquiries to be made into the allegations made by the author of the book, "Sans Everything"; and what action he now proposes to take.

The answers to both parts of the Question are summarised in a letter to A.E.G.I.S. of 21st July as follows:—

"I have received your letter of 19th July, which you have released to the Press. This reply is being similarly released.
In my letter of 29th June I said that if you would inform the Minister in confidence of the identity of the hospitals referred to in Chapter 3 of "Sans Everything", it would enable independent investigations to be made into the situation at these hospitals and also that it would be helpful if some of the wards which were the subject of complaint could be identified. Your reply said that this seemed eminently reasonable but that A.E.G.I.S. would like to know exactly what type of independent inquiry the Minister had in mind. On 30th June I wrote saying that the form of any inquiries would depend on the nature and extent of the information given to the Minister but that in any event he would arrange for the inquiries to he carried out by a legally qualified chairman from outside the National Health Service, probably assisted by other persons unconnected with the hospital concerned. Your letter of 3rd July stated that the type of investigation offered was of course satisfactory and you gave the names of hospitals without, however, stating which of the alleged incidents had occurred at which hospital. In my letter of 5th July I said that it would greatly facilitate inquiries if you would let me know which parts of Chapter 3 related to which hospital and would also give the address of one hospital which could not be identified from the name alone, which you had provided. You then asked whether any information supplied to the Minister in confidence and at his request would be covered by privilege; and I replied that I was advised that qualified privilege would attach to letters of complaint addressed to the Minister.
Now, over two weeks after your letter expressing satisfaction with the type of investigation offered, you suggest that the appointment by a hospital board of a legally qualified chairman from outside the National Health Service would in some way constitute a breach of faith, and might prejudice the independence of inquiries. On the strength of this innuendo, you ask a number of further questions about the form and scope of the inquiries.
The first purpose of the proposed inquiries would be to investigate as thoroughly as possible the substance of the allegations that have been made in "Sans Everything". Any further action or inquiries would depend upon the results of this investigation.
The Minister, contrary to the implications in your last letter, is certainly no less concerned than is A.E.G.I.S. to uncover the truth and he regrets that you are unwilling to provide the information that would have enabled the inquiries into the allegations to be made as thoroughly as he would desire. He has now concluded that no more time should be lost in unfruitful correspondence, and he is therefore proceeding with the arrangements for independent investigations without further delay, in so far as the limited information provided by A.E.G.I.S. permits further useful inquiries to be made."

Housing

Council House Rents (Newham)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware that, although almost all of the residents of the London Borough of Newham have received no increases in their wages and salaries during the past 12 months due to the wages standstill, council rents are due to rise by as much as 12s. 6d. for some of the 23,000 council tenants; and what action he now proposes to take to assist the borough council in Newham and thus obviate the necessity of their raising council rents.

The Housing Subsidies Act, 1967, will result in a substantial increase in the amount of Exchequer housing subsidies payable to local authorities and should moderate the need for rent increases. The adoption of thorough going rent rebate schemes will further ensure that help is given to those tenants who most need it.

Local Government

Flood Prevention Scheme, Crompton, (Letter)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why a reply has not been sent to a letter dated 13th June, from Crompton Urban District Council, asking for his comments on its application for loan sanction for a flood prevention scheme costing £50,000.

A reply was sent on 24th July. This proposes an informal investigation by one of the Department's Engineering Inspectors when certain additional information has been provided.

Ministry Of Labour

Japanese Talent Bank Scheme

asked the Minister of Labour if he will arrange to have the Japanese talent bank scheme, details of which have been sent to him, examined with a view to the introduction of a similar scheme for Great Britain.

I will certainly have this scheme examined though, on present information, the ground it covers seems already within the field of our own employment services.

Professional And Executive Register (Appointments Delay)

asked the Minister of Labour how much delay has to elapse before those seeking appointments through the professional and executive register are interviewed.

Applicants for enrolment on the Professional and Executive Register are normally seen by appointment within three to ten days, though this is not practicable in all cases.

Unemployment (Wales)

asked the Minister of Labour what proportion the current percentage of unemployment in Wales bears to the percentage of unemployment in England; and how this figure compares with the highest corresponding figure for the years 1957 to 1963.

Based on provisional figures for July, 1967 the unemployment percentage rate for Wales exceeded the rate for England by 96·6 per cent. During the years 1957 to 1963, the highest corresponding figure was 159·7 per cent. in October, 1961.

asked the Minister of Labour what proportion the current percentage of unemployment in Wales bears to the percentage of unemployment in the rest of the United Kingdom; and how this figure compares with the corresponding highest figure for the years 1957 and 1963.

Based on provisional figures for July, 1967, the unemployment percentage rate for Wales exceeded the rate for the remainder of the United Kingdom by 69·5 per cent. During the years 1957 to 1963, the highest corresponding figure was 114·1 per cent. in October, 1961.

Royal Commission On Trades Unions And Employers' Associations (Report)

asked the Minister of Labour, in view of the fact that British employers are hostile to white collar unions and use devious methods to prevent their growth, whether he will take appropriate legislative action as proposed in the report to the Royal Commission on Trades Unions and Employers' Associations, by Mr. George Sayers Bain, a copy of which has been sent to him.

I do not think it would be appropriate for me to take any action in advance of the Royal Commission's Report.

Women (Part-Time Employment)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the figures of part-time women workers employed in England and Wales on 1st May, 1966, and 1st May, 1967, respectively.

The only estimates of the numbers of women in part-time employment made by my Department relate to manufacturing industries in Great Britain in March, June, September and December each year.The estimates for June, 1966 and June, 1967 were 500,800 and 453,100 respectively.

Unfilled Vacancies

asked the Minister of Labour what was the proportion of unemployed persons to unfilled vacancies in Wales, Scotland and England, respectively, at the most recent date for which the figures are available.

At 10th July, 1967, for which provisional figures are available, the numbers of notified vacancies remaining unfilled to every hundred persons wholly unemployed in Wales, Scotland and England were 23·4, 21·5 and 72·5 respectively.

Manufacturing Industries, Wales (Male Employees)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the total number of men employed in manufacturing industry in Wales; and how this figure compares with the figure for the corresponding month in each year 1960 to 1966.

Following is the information:

Estimated numbers of male employees in employment in Wales in manufacturing industries (Orders III—XVI of the Standard Industrial Classification)
(Thousands)
June,1960220
June,1961226
June,1962220
June,1963224
June,1964231
June,1965235
June,1966240
Estimates for June, 1967 will be available early in 1968.

Overseas Development

Sierra Leone (Over-Issue Of Cd And W Funds)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether arrangements have now been made to recover Colonial Development and Welfare funds over-issued to the Government of Sierra Leone.

The over-issue of C.D. & W. funds has now been finally determined as £391,654, and the Sierra Leone Government has agreed to repay it over five years starting in 1972. No interest will be charged.A Supplementary Estimate on the Overseas Aid (Bilateral) Vote to give effect to these arrangements will be submitted later in the year.

Post Office

Transferred Staff (Expenses)

asked the Postmaster-General what arrangements are to be made when the integration of the Macclesfield Post Office with the Stockport office has been completed, to cover the additional expenses of the staff who are transferred from Macclesfield to Stockport.

The General arrangements for helping Post Office staff who have to move office in cases such as this are at present being discussed with the Staff Associations concerned.

Coal

Utilisation Research

asked the Minister of Power if he will set up a committee to investigate further ways coal could be used advantageously in the United Kingdom.

The National Coal Board's Research and Development Department keeps research into coal utilisation continuously under review and works closely with the relevant Research Associations and with its major customers. I do not think a committee would serve any useful purpose.

Ministry Of Power

National Steel Corporation (Report)

asked the Minister of Power when the National Steel Corporation's report on organisation will be published.

Public Building And Works

Baguley Hall, Manchester

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what proposals he has made to Manchester Corporation concerning the future of Baguley Hall; what consultations he will be having with the Corporation and other interested parties; when he expects to be able to announce a decision to Parliament; and if he will make a statement.

I have proposed to the Manchester Corporation that they should transfer Baguley Hall to my Ministry, together with a substantial financial contribution towards the cost of repair and display. The total cost of this is estimated to be £70,000 and the work may take up to 8 years. My Department will find the balance of this from its own Votes and will also meet the whole cost of future upkeep of the building.I regard this as a generous offer, and I hope the Corporation will accept it; I am still awaiting their reply.I should like to pay a tribute to the persistent efforts of my hon. Friend to secure the preservation of Baguley Hall, which is a monument of great architectural and historic importance.

Constitution Hill (Lighting)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works when he proposes to improve the lighting on Constitution Hill.

I propose to have the old gas lamp standards replaced in the autumn by new electric ones. As electric standards have already been installed in Birdcage Walk and Horse Guards' Approach Road, most of the old standards in these thoroughfares will also be removed at the same time. Two original standards outside the Foreign Office and a group at Queen Anne's Gate will be retained as agreeable reminders of a bygone era.

Technology

Public Accounts Committee (Report)

asked the Minister of Technology what action he intends to take as a result of the latest report of the Committee of Public Accounts.

The Report is being studied within the Department and will be the subject of a Treasury Minute.

Sonic Bangs

asked the Minister of Technology whether he is aware of the damage caused to persons and property as a result of the recent sonic bang tests; what action should be taken by those suffering damage to claim financial reimbursement; and whether he will make a statement.

A number of claims, which will be investigated, have been received. Further claims, giving appropriate details, should be made in writing to:— Ministry of Defence, Claims Commission, Queen Anne's Chambers, 41 Tothill Street, London, S.W.1.

asked the Minister of Technology whether he is aware that 150 residents of the London Borough of Newham telephoned the Noise Abatement Society to complain about the noise from the supersonic bang in London on Monday, 17th July and that hundreds were unable to get through to complain; and what was the total number of complaints received by his Department.

I have nothing to add to the speech made by my hon. Friend the Member for Birkenhead on 25th July.

asked the Minister of Technology whether he is aware that, during the recent supersonic bang experiments, the limited number of telephone lines available for complainants to contact his office meant that a wait of up to two and a half hours was experienced by many persons wishing to complain; and whether in the future he will advise the public that if they cannot get through to his department they can complain to him at Whitehall 6240 and the Prime Minister at Whitehall 1234.

When it became apparent that so many people preferred to telephone rather than write, we substantially increased the number of lines available, and as a result the delays in getting through were reduced.I would not advise the public to use the numbers suggested by my hon. Friend, whether or not they can get through to my Department.

asked the Minister of Technology how many sonic booms have been caused by aircraft under the control of his Department over the county of Cardigan or the adjoining coastline during the last two years.

About 100 flights at supersonic speed have taken place over the Cardiganshire coast in this period.

European Airbus

asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement about the talks on the European airbus project.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the right hon. Member for Mitcham (Mr. R. Carr) today.

Aircraft Noise (Research)

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will take further steps to induce aircraft manufacturers to spend more money on research to reduce aircraft noise.

Further to the information which I gave to the hon. Member for Torrington (Mr. Peter Mills) on 6th June, the Department contributed approximately three-quarters of the cost of the important new Laboratory at Ansty which I opened last month and which will permit further research on aircraft engine noise. All these measures will, I hope, help the aircraft industry to increase its efforts to develop quieter aircraft.