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Written Answers

Volume 751: debated on Monday 23 October 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 23rd October, 1967

Social Security

Retirement Pension

1.

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she is considering providing for the same age of retirement for men and women.

The Government's comprehensive review will cover all aspects of the National Insurance scheme, but it is not possible at this stage to say what decisions will be reached on any particular issue.

4.

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she will arrange for the proposed increase in retirement pension to be paid for British citizens resident abroad, or, alternatively, whether she will seek to make reciprocal arrangements with other countries to ensure that a person living in retirement is able to withstand increases in the cost of living abroad.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that there are good reasons for the rule we have followed in the past, namely, that the new rates of retirement pension do not apply to people who have already qualified for their pensions and taken up residence abroad before the date of the increase. My right hon. Friend is always glad to consider whether there is any scope for an amendment of this rule in the reciprocal agreements we negotiate with other countries.

Unemployment And Sickness Benefits (Married Women)

2.

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she is considering allowing married women insured in their own right to be entitled to the full rate of unemployment and sickness benefit.

This is only one of the problems which arise from the special position of married women in National Insurance. Along with others it is being examined during the general review.

Local Officers (Inquiries)

15.

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she is satisfied that all offices at the local branches of her Department can now deal with the full range of inquiries about both contributory and supplementary benefits; and if she will make a statement.

Arrangements have been in operation since the Ministry was set up in August 1966 for inquiries over the full range of contributory and non-contributory benefits to be dealt with at all our local offices and in general they are working satisfactorily.

Supplementary Benefit (Option Mortgage Scheme)

asked the Minister of Social Security whether, in view of the fear that when a person is receiving a supplementary pension this might be so reduced as to offset any benefit under the option mortgage scheme, she will issue an assurance, covering this point, as an addition to the explanatory booklet.

In assessing the requirements of a claiment for Supplementary Benefit the Supplementary Benefits Commission can only take account of mortgage interest which is actually being paid. If, therefore, the mortgage interest payable by a claimant is reduced, because he has chosen an option mortgage, his Supplementary Benefit normally must necessarily be correspondingly adjusted. Were this not done there would be double provision from public funds for part of the mortgage interest. Arrangements are being made with the Minister of Housing and Local Government for a paragraph about the position of borrowers receiving Supplementary Benefit who choose an option mortgage to be included in the next version of the booklet dealing with the Option Mortgage Scheme.

Form Bf 11W

asked the Minister of Social Security if she will amend page three of form BF 11W to include the words "retirement pension" in addition to the word "pension".

No. The existing words "insurance benefit or pension" in form BF 11W (which is a form for claiming an increase of sickness or injury benefit for a wife) are I think adequate and my right hon. Friend would be reluctant to add any specific reference which might appear to limit their general application.

Family Allowance

asked the Minister of Social Security what is her estimate of what the average rate of family allowance per child would be, compared with what it is now, if all the present Income Tax and Surtax child allowances were divided equally per child.

The extra tax yield resulting from the abolition of the present tax allowance for children would finance a further payment of 17s. 3d. a week by way of family allowance for each child, including the first.

Benefits (Increase)

asked the Minister of Social Security what estimate she has made of the margin of real benefit left by the October increases in National Insurance and supplementary benefits after the increases in fuel costs have been taken into consideration with the increases of cost of living.

It is estimated that, when known increases in fuel charges will have taken effect, assuming no other changes in the Retail Prices Index, the increase of 10s. to be made in the standard rate of benefit will still be 3s. 0d. more than would be necessary to restore the value of the current rate.

Voluntary Organisations (Departmental Co-Operation)

asked the Minister of Social Security whether she has a comprehensive policy for co-operation with voluntary social welfare organisations; and what advice in this respect she has issued to local offices of her Department particularly concerning those voluntary organisations with which they should and should not co-operate.

It has not been necessary to limit the field of such organisations with which the staff of the Ministry should co-operate so far as they can. But if my hon. Friend has any particular case or organisation in mind I will gladly make inquiries if he will let me have details.

Ministry Of Health

National Kidney Centre

26.

asked the Minister of Health if any of his medical advisers who recommend that he shall not co-operate with the National Kidney Centre have visited the Centre and studied the work carried out and the results achieved.

As I have repeatedly stated I am advised by a group of experts that dialysis in the home should have the backing of a hospital with full supporting facilities. This group is fully aware of the work carried out at the National Kidney Centre and of the results achieved, and at least one member has visited the Centre.

Disabled Persons (Registration)

34.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will discuss with local authorities their arrangements for the registration of the names and addresses of disabled persons living in their areas, with a view to ensuring that these persons receive adequate help from the health and welfare services.

Registration reflects the numbers of handicapped people who at any time are seeking and receiving help, and I am sure that local authorities fully recognise their responsibility to offer any necessary services.

Cervical Cancer Tests

asked the Minister of Health what facilities exist in Hillingdon borough for regular cervical cancer tests; and how this provision compares with the position in 1964.

Facilities for regular cervical cancer screening, apart from tests undertaken at hospital gynaecological clinics, are provided for the London Borough of Hillingdon at hospital ante and post-natal clinics, the Local Health Authority clinics, the Family Planning Clinic and through the General Practitioners. The waiting time for smears to be taken at Local Health Authority clinics is about two weeks. In June 1967 the hospital laboratories serving the area were examining cervical cytology smears from all clinics at an annual rate of about 19,000 i.e. over three times the rate in 1964.

asked the Minister of Health if he will reconsider the present lower age limit of 35 for women having cervical smear tests; when he is reimbursing general practitioners for these tests; and if he will make a statement.

I am at present considering whether the cervical cytology service should be extended to women under the age of 35. The payment to general practitioners of a fee for taking smears from such women is dependent on the outcome of this consideration.

Young Chronic Sick

asked the Minister of Health (1) what are the terms of reference of his Department's survey of the younger chronic sick; who is carrying out this survey and where; and what attention is being given to the different problems arising in thinly and densely populated areas;(2) if he will set up a survey in depth of a densely populated urban area and a sparsely populated rural area of roughly equal population to establish the numbers of the young chronic sick being cared for at home, and the problems confronting patients and families to ensure that they shall continue to be cared for at home.

The Government's plans for a survey of disabled people living at home are described in my right hon. Friend's reply today to a Question from the hon. Member for Moray and Nairn (Mr. G. Campbell). Any special problems arising from differences in density of population would no doubt emerge from the proposed survey.

asked the Minister of Health how many young chronic sick between the ages of 16 to 60 are registered with local authorities, and being maintained by local authorities in part three accommodation, respectively; and how many of those in part three accommodation are housed with the aged.

I regret that this information is not available; but the number of people aged 16–64 registered with local authorities as permanently and substan- tially handicapped (other than those with handicaps of sight or hearing) at 31st December, 1966, was 92,443, and the number aged under 65 classified as "physically handicapped" in Part III accommodation at the same date was 4,532.

Habit-Forming Drugs (Prescriptions)

asked the Minister of Health if, in view of the public concern at the increase in drug addiction, he will consider making regulations which require medical practitioners to see patients personally each time habit-forming drugs are prescribed.

I do not regard this as a suitable method of tackling drug addiction. Prescribing is part of a doctor's professional responsibility and it is for him to decide in each case whether it is clinically necessary to see a patient before prescribing. I have no evidence that addiction to habit-forming drugs has increased through doctors prescribing without seeing the patients concerned on each occasion.

Doctors And Nurses (Immigration Statistics)

asked the Minister of Health what approximate percentage of Britain's doctors and nurses, respectively, are immigrants; what is the approximate additional annual number of immigrant doctors and nurses, respectively, in recent years; and what is the approximate annual number of our doctors and nurses who emigrate.

In 1964, the latest year for which full information about doctors is available, approximately 18 per cent. of all fully and provisionally registered doctors in Great Britain were born outside the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland. On the migration of doctors generally I would refer my hon. Friend to my answer of 24th July to my hon. Friend the Member for Wandsworth, Central (Dr. David Kerr).At 31st December, 1966, 20,713, or approximately one quarter of those training as nurses and midwives in Great Britain were immigrants. The numbers at 31st December, 1965 and 1964 were 19,432 and 19,106, respectively. Information is not available for trained nurses or midwives or on the numbers who emigrate.—[Vol. 751,

c. 17.]

Cigarette Advertising

asked the Minister of Health what progress he has now made regarding the control of advertising or other methods of promoting cigarette smoking.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply today to my hon. Friend the Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Dr. John Dunwoody).

asked the Minister of Health whether he will now take steps to compel all cigarette manufacturers to print on their packaging and advertising a warning of the danger to health.

Sainsbury Committee (Recommendations)

asked the Minister of Health what steps will be taken to implement the recommendations of the Sainsbury Committee on drugs; and what action he intends taking to have discussions with the trade unions and workpeople in the drug and pharmaceutical industry.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Dr. John Dunwoody). I have no plans at present for such discussions but I shall take into account any views that are put to me.

asked the Minister of Health if he has now considered the Sainsbury Committee Report on Drugs; when he intends to implement its recommendations; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Dr. John Dunwoody).

Ambulance Service (Transfer Of Responsibility)

asked the Minister of Health whether he has yet reached conclusions on the views relating to suggested transfer of responsibility for the ambulance service from local authorities to regional hospital boards, expressed to him by the Royal Commission on Local Government in England, the County Councils Association, the Association of Municipal Corporations and the Greater London Council.

I have decided to defer a decision on this matter until the Royal Commission has published its recommendations on the future structure of local government.

Mental Welfare Commission (England And Wales)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will consider establishing in England and Wales a body similar to the Mental Welfare Commission of Scotland.

Drugs (Legislation)

asked the Minister of Health when he intends to introduce legislation to implement the proposals in the White Paper, Command Paper No. 3395, with regard to the safety, quality and description of drugs and medicines and, for the purpose of implementing the Sainsbury Report, Command Paper No. 3410, whether these matters will be dealt with in a single Bill or two Bills; and what steps will be taken to consult professional bodies and trade associations concerned before the drafting is completed.

Legislation to implement the Government's proposals in connection with the safety, quality and description of drugs and medicines will be introduced as soon as possible. I am considering the implications for this legislation of certain of the recommendations in the report of the committee of enquiry into the relationship of the pharmaceutical industry with the National Health Service and have invited the views of the pharmaceutical industry, the British Medical Association and the Pharmaceutical Society.

Hospitals

Geriatric Wards (Motor Accident Victims)

asked the Minister of Health how many people between the ages of 16 to 35, 36 to 50, 51 to 60, respectively, disabled in motor accidents, are at present in geriatric wards.

Young Chronic Sick Units

asked the Minister of Health how many young chronic sick units are functioning in each Regional Hospital Board area; and for what age groups they cater.

In April, 1967, the number of units accommodating 10 or more chronic sick patients in the age range 15 to 59 was:

Regional Hospital Board areaNumber of unitsAge groups catered for
Newcastle3All
Leeds1Under 45—over at Consultant's discretion
Sheffield32—All 1—Up to 40—over for short stay
East Anglia0—
North-West Metropolitan1Up to 45 only
North-East Metropolitan2All
South-East Metropolitan1All
South-West Metropolitan2All
Oxford2All
South-Western32—All 1—Up to 50 only
Birmingham2All
Manchester0—
Liverpool1All
Wessex0—
Wales1All

Spa Hospitals

asked the Minister of Health if he will take steps to ensure that sufficient places are kept open at spa hospitals to treat all rheumatic and arthritic patients until such time as new medical remedies replace spa treatments.

Only a small proportion of rheumatic and arthritic patients are treated in spa hospitals.It is for regional hospital boards to decide whether the facilities available in National Health Service hospitals for the treatment of such patients, which include in many cases facilities comparable to those provided in spa hospitals, need to be supplemented by contractual arrangements with such hospitals.

Mental Patients (Personal Belongings)

asked the Minister of Health how many hospitals still strip patients of their spectacles, dentures and hearing-aids; and whether he will seek assurances that this practice will now cease.

I have no evidence that any hospitals are acting contrary to my advice that mentally disordered or elderly confused patients should be allowed to retain such aids and other personal belongings, and that where it is necessary, exceptionally, to remove them, this should only be done on medical advice.

Non-Psychiatric Geriatric Patients

asked the Minister of Health how many non-psychiatric geriatric patients are at present housed in mental hospitals.

Statistics are not available. Psychiatry and geriatric medicine overlap in some clinical conditions and many elderly patients are borderline cases for different forms of care.

Mental Hospitals

asked the Minister of Health how many mental hospitals are at present overcrowded above their originally intended number of cases.

asked the Minister of Health whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of mental hospitals at present in use which were built more than 50 years ago, together with their date of construction, the number of patients for which they were designed and their present number of patients.

This information is not available centrally and would be difficult to obtain.

Patients (Teaching Procedures)

asked the Minister of Health what advice he has given to hospitals about the policy to be followed when patients come closely in touch with teaching procedures; and whether he will make a statement.

All Teaching Hospitals are aware of my policy that when a patient comes closely in touch with teaching procedures his co-operation should be sought and an explanation given on the spot of what may be involved; should this fail to overcome any hesitation he may feel I would deprecate any effort to make co-operation in teaching a condition of treatment.I have also asked all Teaching Hospitals to see that notices are issued both to in-patients and to out-patients giving an explanation of the forms that teaching is likely to take.

Expectant Mothers (Portsmouth)

asked the Minister of Health what proportion of expectant mothers within the City of Portsmouth are able to have their babies in hospital; what categories of mothers this represents; what is the proportion for the country as a whole; and whether he will make a statement.

Sixty-two per cent. in 1966; women requiring hospital confinement on medical or obstetric grounds or those needing it for social reasons; seventy-two per cent. in 1966. With the additional beds now being brought into commission at St. Mary's Hospital, the percentage should rise to about the national average.

Ministry Of Labour

Redundant Workers (Raf, Faldingworth)

44.

asked the Minister of Labour what further progress he has made in finding jobs for the 14 workers who have been made redundant by the Royal Air Force at Faldingworth and who desire alternative employment.

Only four workers remain registered, of whom two are under consideration for jobs.

Shipbuilding And Ship-Repairing Industries (Employees)

48.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give the number employed in the shipbuilding and ship- repairing industries at the latest available date and the corresponding figures for 1963, 1964, 1965, and 1966.

It is estimated that in Great Britain at August, 1967 (the latest date for which provisional estimates are available) there were 150,900 employees in employment in the shipbuilding and ship-repairing industries. The estimates for earlier years are August, 1966, 151,900 (provisional); August, 1965, 153,000; August, 1964, 149,100; and August, 1963, 153,200.

Strikes

49.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give what figures are in his possession to make a comparison between the numbers of official and unofficial strikes, and the number of days lost thereby, in this country and other major industrial nations.

Over the seven years 1960–66 inclusive, the number of stoppages known to have been official averaged under five per cent. of all stoppages but caused about 40 per cent. of the total number of days lost.Separate figures for official and unofficial strikes and the number of days lost thereby in other major industrial nations are not available but figures for 1966 supplied by the International Labour Office and due to be published in the

Ministry of Labour Gazette in November show that of the countries of chief industrial importance in the free world only West Germany and Japan lost fewer days proportionately through strikes than the U.K.

50.

asked the Minister of Labour what action he has taken, or intends to take, in the present trade disputes in this country, in particular those connected with the docks.

I am taking, and shall continue to take, such action as is appropriate in the particular circumstances of each case.In the case of Liverpool docks I have appointed Mr. A. J. Scamp to undertake an inquiry into the locally determined aspects of the system of payment and earnings opportunities of dockers. At my suggestion, Mr. Scamp has had discussions with representatives of the employers and workers with a view to finding in advance of his report a basis for a resumption of work. I understand that the agreement reached in these discussions is to be considered at a meeting of the men on Wednesday.The unofficial stoppages in parts of the London docks raise different issues and I am keeping closely in touch with the continuing efforts of the employers and unions to secure a resumption of normal working.

Unemployment

asked the Minister of Labour how many people were unemployed in Scotland at the latest available date, and how many vacancies were unfilled; and what were the comparable figures in each of the previous four years.

Following is the information:

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AND NOTIFIED VACANCIES REMAINING UNFILLED IN SCOTLAND
Total registered UnemployedUnfilled Vacancies
October, 1967*…83,76114,649
October, 1966…67,28018,448
October, 1965…59,58620,447
October, 1964…71,24816,645
October, 1963…90,75210,988
* Provisional figures.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will make a statement on the latest unemployment position.

The registered unemployed on 9th October totalled about 561,000 or 2·4 per cent. 522,000 were wholly unemployed excluding school leavers and, seasonally adjusted, this represented a fall between September and October of over 20,000. The seasonally adjusted figures fell in all regions. I here were 9,000 unemployed school leavers and thus this group is being satisfactorily absorbed in most areas. The seasonally adjusted figures of adult vacancies showed increases in October as well as in September.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will take steps to break down regional unemployment statistics to show what proportion, in percentages, and how many, in absolute figures, are classified as unemployable.

No registered unemployed persons are classified as unemployable. Monthly figures are available of those unemployed registered disabled persons who are so severely incapacitated that they are unlikely to obtain work except under sheltered conditions and who are excluded from the basic unemployment statistics.

Draughtsmen And Technicians (Cbi Representations)

asked the Minister of Labour what representations he has received from the Confederation of British Industries concerning the minimum pay scales now recommended by the Draughtsmen's and Allied Technicians' Association; what answer he gave; and if he will make a statement.

I have received no representations from the C.B.I. concerning these scales.

Engineering Industry Employees (Hillingdon)

asked the Minister of Labour how many people in the London Borough of Hillingdon are employed in engineering now; and how this compares with the comparable month of each year from 1960 to 1966.

The information requested is available only for the Greater London Area as a whole, and is as follows:

ESTIMATED NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES (EMPLOYED AND UNEMPLOYED) IN ORDERS VI TO IX OF THE STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION
(Thousands)
MalesFemalesTotal
June, 1960…515196711
June, 1961…524201726
June, 1962…523196718
June, 1963…517193709
June, 1964…497191688
June, 1965…464183648
June, 1966…453183636
Due to boundary changes arising out of the establishment of the Greater London Council, the estimates for years up to 1964 are not strictly comparable with those for subsequent years.Owing to roundings, the components do not necessarily add to the totals.

Unemployment (Scotland)

asked the Minister of Labour what are the numbers of men, women, boys and girls unemployed, and the percentage unemployment rate

TOTAL NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED AND PERCENTAGE RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE AREAS COVERED BY BRECHIN, MONTROSE, STONEHAVEN AND BANCHORY EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES
MenBoysWomenGirlsTotalPercentage rate
BRECHIN
9th October, 1967……68—3811072·6
10th October, 1966……44—242701·7
11th October, 1965……38117—561·3
12th October, 1964……28—132431·0
14th October, 1963……4632410831·9
15th October, 1962……386203671·5
16th October, 1961……223131390·9
10th October, 1960……262183491·1
12th October, 1959……703135912·0
13th October, 1958……38129—681·5
14th October, 1957……36—171541·2
MONTROSE
9th October, 1967……18825752523·5
10th October, 1966……11543041532·2
11th October, 1965……13543441772·5
12th October, 1964……13632531672·2
14th October, 1963……11923421572·0
15th October, 1962……86131—1181·6
16th October, 1961……17832022032·8
10th October, 1960……16332911962·7
12th October, 1959……222546122854·0
13th October, 1958……20271832303·1
14th October, 1957……15143521922·6
STONEHAVEN*
9th October, 1967……49113—632·0
10th October, 1966……40—12—521·9
11th October, 1965……45—11—562·1
12th October, 1964……32282442·5
14th October, 1963……39—1—403·0
15th October, 1962……34——2363·0
16th October, 1961……37—4—412·9
10th October, 1960……55—4—592·8
12th October, 1959……68—5—733·6
13th October, 1958……35—7—423·6
14th October, 1957……29121332·4
BANCHORY
9th October, 1967……613183852·9
10th October, 1966……625153852·9
11th October, 1965……483172702·4
12th October, 1964……526102702·2
14th October, 1963……422113581·8
15th October, 1962……332214601·7
16th October, 1961……38—152551·5
10th October, 1960……461102591·7
12th October, 1959……662126862·3
13th October, 1958……491143671·8
14th October, 1957……52—174732·0
* Stonehaven forms part of the Aberdeen "travel to work" area which comprises Aberdeen, Inverurie and Stonehaven. Percentage rates can be calculated for the area as a whole but not separately for its constituent parts.

Selective Employment Tax (Scotland)

asked the Minister of Labour how many employees have transferred from service to manufacturing em-

for the most recent convenient date and for the same date in each of the previous 10 years for the Brechin, Montrose, Stonehaven and Banchory employment exchange areas.

Following is the information:ployment in Scotland and the Highlands, respectively, since the introduction of Selective Employment Tax.

Pay Settlements (Notifications)

asked the Minister of Labour how many income settlements have been notified to his Department which involve back payments covering all or part of the period of severe restraint; and how many employees are involved.

Twelve since 1st July, 1967 involving about 117,000 workers. These did not involve breaches of incomes policy.

Students

asked the Minister of Labour if he will issue a general directive to employment exchanges to give priority to local residents, rather than to students entering the area during the holiday period.

No. Our aim is to provide an employer, as far as possible, with a reasonable field of registrants from which he can select, the criterion being suitability for the particular job. I have no reason to believe this policy results in students from other districts being commonly placed in jobs for which equally suitable local residents are available.

Manufacturing And Service Industries (Employees)

asked the Minister of Labour what is the change since the start of Selective Employment Tax in the number employed in those employments classified as service and manufacturing for purposes of Selective Employment Tax, respectively.

Provisional estimates of employees in employment in manufacturing industries in Great Britain show a decrease of about 390,000 between September, 1966, and August, 1967. Comparable estimates are not available for the service industries. Final estimates for each industry and service in the Standard Industrial Classifications are made in respect of June each year, June, 1967, estimates will become available early in 1968.

Carbon Tetrachloride

asked the Minister of Labour if he will institute, in the interests of industrial safety, an investigation into the use of carbon tetrachloride in industry as an electrical maintenance and industrial cleaning solvent.

A great deal is already known in my Ministry about the use (and the hazards associated with the use) of carbon tetrachloride. Her Majesty's Factory Inspectorate encourage the use of safe substitutes wherever possible, but where this is not practicable, suitable precautions in the use of carbon tetrachloride can be required. I do not think that any special investigation is necessary, but if my hon. Friend has any particular instance of its use in mind and will give me the details, I will have it investigated.

Occupational Pension Schemes (Transferability)

asked the Minister of Labour what steps he intends taking to secure the transferability of pension rights within all kinds of occupational schemes, particularly in view of the difficulties encountered by many people in securing employment because of their ineligibility due to age to join a new firm's pension scheme.

Transferability of pension rights at present exists within the state social security scheme and between certain occupational schemes. Whether special provisions should be made for the preservation of pension rights under all occupational schemes will need to be considered in the light of the future of the State social security scheme, which is at present under review.

Employment

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the number of totally unemployed, the estimated number on short-time, and the number who have lost overtime working in the last twelve months.

At 9th October 1967 there were in Great Britain 531,647 persons registered as wholly unemployed and 29,052 temporarily stopped. These figures are provisional.Short-time and overtime statistics are available for operatives in establishments with eleven or more employees in manufacturing industries, excluding shipbuilding and shiprepairing. During the week ended 19th August 1967, 76,800 were on short-time and 1,717,700, that is 118,000 fewer than in August 1966, worked overtime.

Disabled Persons Register

asked the Minister of Labour what is the number of disabled persons on the disabled register; and how many persons so registered are at present unemployed.

On 17th April, 1967, there were in Great Britain 655,379 persons on the Disabled Persons Register. On 11th September, 1967, 59,125 persons so registered were registered as unemployed.

Low Paid Workers

asked the Minister of Labour what further consultations are taking place about the low wages for those in full-time employment in view of the recent report on family poverty.

None. Provision for low paid workers is included in the Government's incomes policy and the increases in family allowances and other measures already announced will also help families with low incomes.

Gibraltar

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in the light of the Gibraltar referendum result, he will now withdraw Great Britain's offer to refer the question of the future sovereignty of the Rock and its people to the International Court.

My right hon. Friend intends to keep the offer open since he believes that it would be to our advantage and that of the Gibraltarians to have all these legal issues pronounced upon in the appropriate international forum.

Arab Refugees (Assistance)

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is Her Majesty's Government's pro- gramme of assistance to Arab refugees, whether through the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, or otherwise.

In 1967 the United Kingdom contribution to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency's normal programme was $4·5 million; in addition we made a special contribution of $500,000 for expenditure by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency on emergency services for those displaced by the hostilities of June 1967.As a first emergency measure we supplied blankets, tents and medical supplies from Ministry of Defence stocks in Cyprus.Her Majesty's Government have also, since the hostilities, made available £500,000 for expenditure by the Jordan Government on projects of reconstruction and rehabilitation.

Algeria (British Pilots)

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement about the situation in relation to the British pilots detained in Algeria.

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what action he has taken to try to secure the release of the two British pilots held without charge in Algeria.

The two pilots were released by the Algerian authorities on 23rd September and returned to this country on the 24th.

United Nations Convention On The Status Of Women

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what reservations were made by Her Majesty's Government when acceding to the United Nations Convention on the status of women.

Reservations relating to certain dependent territories mainly covered jury service, and the employment and remuneration of women in the Civil Service. Those relating to the United Kingdom itself covered succession to the Crown, service in the armed forces and Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service, some aspects of representation in the House of Lords and certain offices of a largely ceremonial nature. We also reserved the position generally as regards the application of the Convention to Rhodesia and Aden. The full text of the reservations is as follows:

Article III is accepted subject to reservations, pending notification of withdrawal in any case, in so far as it relates to:
  • (a) succession to the Crown;
  • (b) certain offices primarily of a ceremonial nature;
  • (c) the function of sitting and voting in the House of Lords pertaining to holders of hereditary peerages and holders of certain offices in the Church of England;
  • (d) recruitment to and conditions of service in the armed forces;
  • (e) Jury service in the Bahamas, Grenada, the Isle of Man and Montserrat, as well as in the Kingdom of Tonga;
  • (f) the employment of married women in Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service and in the Civil Service of Northern Ireland, Antigua, Fiji, Grenada, Hong Kong, St. Lucia and St. Vincent;
  • (g) remuneration for women in the Civil Service of Gibraltar, Hong Kong and Seychelles, as well as of the Protectorate of Swaziland;
  • (h) the post of Bailiff of Guernsey;
  • (i) in the State of Brunei, the exercise of the royal powers, jury service or its equivalent and the holding of certain offices governed by Islamic Law.
  • The United Kingdom reserves the right to postpone the application of this Convention in respect of women living in the Colony of Aden, having regard to the local customs and traditions. Further, the United Kingdom reserves the right not to apply this Convention to Rhodesia unless and until the United Kingdom informs the Secretary-General of the United Nations that it is in a position to ensure that the obligations imposed by the Convention in respect of that territory can be fully implemented.

    Perim

    60.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on his efforts to establish United Nations trusteeship for the island of Perim.

    We have not yet received a reply to our letter of 11th August to the Secretary-General in which we asked that the United Nations consider assuming the administration of Perim and that the United Nations Special Mission on Aden should con- sider this. The Mission have not yet issued their report. Discussions continue in New York and I cannot usefully say more at the moment.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what conclusions he has reached with the South Arabian Federal Government and at the United Nations over the internationalisation of Perim; and what are Her Majesty's Government's proposals for the future of Kuria Muria Islands and Kamaran.

    We have not yet received a reply to our letter of 11th August to the Secretary-General in which we asked that the United Nations consider assuming the administration of Perim and that the United Nations Special Mission on Aden should consider this. The Mission has not yet issued its report. Discussions continue in New York and I cannot usefully say more at the moment.

    South Arabia (Arms Sales)

    63.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether it remains the policy of Her Majesty's Government to sell arms to individual rulers in South Arabia.

    Foreign Office Staff (Newspaper Employment)

    64.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is his policy with regard to persuading newspaper editors to give employment to former staff of the Foreign Office who have been dismissed for misdemeanors; and on how many occasions his Department have taken this action since 1st June 1952.

    It is no part of my right hon. Friend's policy to make such recommendations. I know of no case in which this has been done.

    Egypt

    67.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what proposal he has made to Colonel Nasser about the reopening of the Suez Canal and a settlement of the dispute between the Arab States and the State of Israel: and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend has made no proposals to President Nasser on these matters, apart from his request through Sir Harold Beeley last week that the four British ships trapped in the Great Bitter Lake be released. He will keep the House informed of any developments.

    68.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on the talks being conducted in Cairo by Sir Harold Beeley.

    The talks which Sir Harold Beeley has had are of course confidential. My right hon. Friend will keep the House informed of any developments.

    Rumania (British Claims)

    69.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what is now the position concerning negotiating with Rumania over her bonded debts, over the oil claims of the Steava Romana (British) Ltd., representing Shell Oil, and other British oil claims; and whether they are being negotiated together or as different claims.

    Exchanges with the Rumanians are continuing. We aim to secure as comprehensive a settlement as possible.

    Aden

    70.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will publish the report of the judicial inquiry into the Crater incident in Aden last summer; and if he will make a statement.

    The High Commissioner does not propose to publish the report of the inquiry by the Chief Justice into the Crater incident. I do not think that in the present circumstances publication would be useful.In the report, the Chief Justice has recommended, and the High Commissioner has accepted, that every effort should be made to bring the ringleader to justice. He recognised however that in the circumstances that now prevail in. Aden, this might prove impossible.

    Rhodesia

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (1) what action he is taking over the Portuguese Government's violation of sanctions against the Rhodesian regime by permitting the storage of Rhodesian tobacco at Frelias; (2) what action he is taking over the Portuguese Government's violation of sanctions against the Rhodesian regime by permitting Rhodesian imports and exports to be transported through Mozambique; (3) what action he is taking over the Portuguese Government's violation of sanctions against the Rhodesian regime by permitting the forgery of documentation for Rhodesian trade.

    The Portuguese Government are required, in accordance with Article 25 of the United Nations Charter, to accept and carry out the decision of the Security Council of 16th December, 1966, which, inter alia, called upon them to prevent the import into their territory of tobacco and other specified commodities, and activities by their nationals in their territories which promote or are calculated to promote the export of the specified commodities from Southern Rhodesia. Her Majesty's Government have made representations to the Portuguese Government about the kind of activities mentioned in these Questions.It is for the Secretary-General of the United Nations to report to the Security Council about the implementation of the Mandatory Resolution of 16th December by member States and for the Security Council to decide whether any State is failing to meet its obligations, and whether any further action needs to be taken in any given case.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what action he is taking over the Japanese Government's permitting Rhodesian chrome ore, iron ore and ferro-chrome to be imported in violation of sanctions.

    Where we have had reason to suspect that these materials were being imported into Japan in breach of the United Nations Mandatory Resolution of 16th December, 1966, we have brought the facts to the attention of the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs in order that it may ensure compliance with the terms of the resolution.It is for the Security Council to decide whether any member State is failing to meet its obligation to carry out a decision of the Council and whether any further action needs to be taken.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what action he is taking over the South African Government's violation of sanctions against the illegal Rhodesian régime.

    South Africa is among a number of countries who have not yet replied to the Secretary-General's request for information about the implementation of the Security Council's Resolution on Rhodesia. It is for the Security Council to decide whether any member State is failing to meet its obligations under the Charter and whether any further action needs to be taken in any given case.

    Diplomatic Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will ensure that female members of the diplomatic service do not in every case have to terminate their career upon marriage.

    Female members of the Diplomatic Service do not automatically have to terminate their career upon marriage. Following one of the recommendations made in 1964 by the Committee on Representational Services Overseas under the Chairmanship of Lord Plowden, the former Foreign Service rules were relaxed. Each case is considered on its merits, and every endeavour is made to allow a woman to remain in the Service after marriage, if she so wishes, and if she can do so consistently with her altered circumstances.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether all claims by members of the diplomatic service for damage or loss of their property through disturbances abroad have now been met; and how long those who recently lost their property due to disturbances in Asia and Africa had to wait for compensation.

    Claims are being processed under an officially-sponsored insurance policy, the premiums for which, within certain limits, are met from public funds. Cases vary, but where there is a possibility of delay officers have been given advances to help them to buy replacement effects and to repair or replace their motor cars. Details of the loss or damage suffered are recorded with a view to their inclusion in an eventual claim for compensation against the foreign governments concerned.

    Baltic Bonds

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what progress has been made in formulating the agreement with the Soviet Government on mutual financial and property claims and counter-claims referred to in the communiqué issued at the time of the Soviet Prime Minister's visit to London; and if he will make a statement.

    I have nothing to add to my Answer today to the hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion (Sir W. Teeling).

    United Nations Economic And Social Council

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on the recent conference of the United Nations Economic and Social Council, with particular reference to its discussions on the work of the specialised agencies and the ways in which their programmes should be expanded and coordinated.

    The last session of the Council was useful rather than remarkable. Much attention was paid to co-ordination of the work of the Specialised Agencies, and the Council passed five resolutions on this subject, four of them co-sponsored by the United Kingdom. I believe that there has been a considerable improvement in this field.

    Zanzibar

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will instruct the United Kingdom representative at the United Nations to raise the matter of the violation of human rights and fundamental freedoms in Zanzibar before the Human Rights Commission.

    South Africa (United Nations Seminar)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what arrangements he made for official British participation in the recent United Nations seminar on apartheid, racial discrimination and colonialism in South Africa; what action he proposes to take on the recommendations which were made by the seminar, particularly those concerning Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland and the information campaign to deal with the situation in South Africa; and whether he will pledge British support for the proposed special United Nations Committee to deal with problems of apartheid, racial discrimination and colonialism in Southern Africa as a whole.

    Her Majesty's Government did not take part in this seminar because we did not think that any useful purpose would be served. Apartheid has been exhaustively discussed in the United Nations on many occasions and we have made our views very clear.The report of the seminar is due to be considered in the course of the current session of the General Assembly. Her Majesty's Government have reservations about the recommendations made.With regard to Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland, the recommendations of the seminar are directed primarily to the United Nations Development Programme and other international agencies. We are doing much to support these countries and would welcome any appropriate assistance from these agencies in this task.If the proposal for the creation of a Special Committee is accepted by the General Assembly, we shall of course consider whether or not we take part.

    Public Building And Works

    Government Departments (Accommodation)

    71.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is the total accommodation in square feet now occupied by Government Departments; how this compares with the figure on 15th October, 1964; and what is the annual increase in cost.

    Government Departments other than the Post Office occupy about 40 million sq. ft. of offices compared with about 34 million sq. ft. in October, 1964. The annual cost of the additional accommodation is about ÂŁ10 million including rates, maintenance and services.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works how many square feet of extra office space have been occupied in Greater London by Departments of Her Majesty's Government since October 1964.

    The increase is about 1·3 million square feet, excluding the Post Office; 600,000 square feet is in Central London.

    Cement (Surcharge)

    72.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works for what period of time the special surcharge of two shillings per ton on cement will be imposed and what safeguards have been agreed to ensure that it is in due course removed.

    It was agreed with the cement industry that a special surcharge of 2s. per ton could be introduced from 16th August on account of the oil surcharge, on the understanding that this would be withdrawn as soon as the additional cost to the industry had been fully recovered. I am satisfied that this understanding will be honoured.

    Room 404A, Bridge Street (Ventilation Fan)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what was the cost to public funds of the installation of a ventilation fan in Room 404a in Bridge Street, in material and in labour; how many men were employed; and how many man hours were taken.

    The cost, including departmental overheads, of materials was ÂŁ10 10s. and of labour ÂŁ9 12s. One electrician and mate and one glazier and mate were employed for a total of 12 man hours.

    National Board For Prices And Incomes (Office Space)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works how many square feet of office space are occupied in Greater London by the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

    House Of Commons (Catering Department Staff)

    73.

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he will make a statement on the changes recently made in the pay and conditions of employment of the staff of the catering department of the House of Commons; how many of the staff have left as a result of those changes; and whether he is satisfied with present management and staff relations.

    I have been asked to reply.Negotiations regarding the pay and conditions of employment of the staff of the catering department have been successfully concluded during the recess. There has been an average pay increase of 10 per cent.New conditions of employment have been laid down. These remain essentially as before, except that individual tipping has been abolished and any member of the staff accepting and retaining a tip automatically terminates by that act his contract of employment with the Department. A surcharge of 7½ per cent. has been introduced, part of which will meet the cost of increased wages, and part will be shared between the staff: details of how their share is to be divided amongst the staff are still being negotiated. One member of the staff has left as a result of these changes.During the recess the management of the department has been considerably strengthened by the appointment of a staff manager, a financial controller, and a banqueting manager to assist the general manager. We are fully satisfied that the present management is well able to cope with the problem of the department, and that the relations with the staff are good.

    asked the Lord President of the Council what progress has been made in increasing the pay and numbers of the staff of the House of Commons, including the number of clerks; and what are the new minimum rates of pay for attendants and refreshment staff.

    Two new Clerks have been recruited during the recess, and as I announced on 24th July last, the career structure of the Clerk's Department has been improved. There has been no increase in the staff of the Department of the Serjeant at Arms, which remains below establishment. Negotiations on improved pay for Doorkeepers are still continuing between the Treasury and their Union. The minimum rates of pay for Attendants are now ÂŁ14 2s. 6d. per week, to be increased to ÂŁ14 6s. 0d. per week on 1st January, 1968. The minimum rates of pay of Refreshment Department staff have been increased by about 10 per cent.

    Specialist Committees

    asked the Lord President of the Council what proposals he will make for further specialist committees; and which subjects they will cover.

    I hope to put before the House further proposals with regard to Specialist Committees early in the new Session.

    State Opening Of Parliament (Televising)

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he will give an assurance that there will be no televising of any part of the proceedings of the House of Commons on the occasion of the State Opening of Parliament in early November without previous debate in the House.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer which I gave to my right hon. Friend the Member for Clack-mannan and East Stirlingshire (Mr. Woodburn) on 24th July.—[Vol. 751, c. 53.]

    Commonwealth Affairs

    Zambia (Mr Simbule)

    74.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if he will now declare Mr. Simbule persona non grata; and whether Mr. Simbule has made any apology for repeating his former public insult to Great Britain.

    The present position is as follows:—Mr. Simbule was reported to have made further derogatory remarks about Her Majesty's Government in London and Nairobi on 12th and 13th August in the course of his return to Zambia for a conference. We have asked the Zambian Government for clarification of these reported remarks and I will consider whether any further action is necessary in the light of their reply when I receive it.

    Gibraltar

    75.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether, since the last by-election in Gibraltar showed that there is considerable support for integration with Great Britain, the possibilities of such integration with Great Britain will be included in the terms of reference of the coming constitutional talks.

    As already agreed the Integration with Britain Party will be able to participate in the forthcoming discussions and express their views. But Her Majesty's Government do not themselves favour integration, which would present formidable difficulties both for Gibraltar and for Britain.

    76.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether the British Government will now hold a constitutional round-table conference for Gibraltar.

    If by roundtable conference the hon. Gentleman means a conference including represen- tatives of all parties in Parliament, I see no occasion for such an exceptional arrangement.

    British Honduras

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will undertake to ascertain whether any ceding of sovereignty over British Honduras to Guatemala is acceptable to the people of the colony as a whole, before taking any steps to that end.

    I have been asked to reply.As the House is already aware, the proceedings of the United States mediator (Mr. Webster) are confidential and he has not yet presented his final proposals.I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given by the then Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State (Mr. Stonehouse) to the hon. Member for Surbiton (Mr. Fisher) on 11th August, 1966 (Vol. 733, c. 1854–55) and to the statement made by him on 12th August, 1966 (Vol. 733, c. 2057).

    Rhodesia

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs (1) whether he will introduce measures to prohibit the subsidiaries of British companies from illegal trading with Rhodesia;(2) whether he will take steps to include lithium in the list of prohibited Rhodesian goods;(3) whether he will take steps to include all Rhodesian exports, including nickel, in the embargo against the illegal régime.

    The Commonwealth Sanctions Committee at its meeting on Thursday 28th September, established a Working Party of Commonwealth representatives to consider possible measures for making the sanctions policy against the illegal regime more effective.It would be undesirable to give the illegal regime advance warning of the further measures which may result from the Working Party's discussions or from our own initiatives.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs (1) what action he is taking over the violation of sanctions against the Rhodesian regime by the British owned firm of Allen, Wack and Shepherd;(2) what action he is taking over the violation of sanctions against the Rhodesian regime by the Manica Trading Company.

    Information I have hitherto had about the activities to which my hon. Friend refers has indicated that these activities have been carried on by companies that are incorporated outside the United Kingdom. I am advised that a company incorporated in a foreign country is not liable to penalties under United Kingdom criminal law for things done in such a country. Investigations are now being made into the question whether any company incorporated in the United Kingdom or any other person in the United Kingdom is involved in the activities concerned.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what action he is taking over the help at present being given to the violation of sanctions against the illegal Smith régime by Rhodesia House in London.

    With the agreement of the British Government, the staff of Rhodesia House carry out certain limited functions, mainly of a consular nature. I have no evidence to support the allegation that they are giving help in the violation of our sanctions legislation against the illegal regime in Rhodesia.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what action he is taking over the loopholes of sanctions against Rhodesia in asbestos and other materials, details of which have been sent to him.

    I understand that the Question refers to a report of evasions of sanctions contained in a recent television programme.In the case of the companies concerned in the export of asbestos, the information that I have had hitherto about their activities has indicated that these have been carried on by companies that are all incorporated outside the United Kingdom. I am advised that a company incorporated in a foreign country is not liable to penalties under United Kingdom criminal law for things done in such a country. Investigations are now being made as to whether any company that is incorporated in the United Kingdom is involved in the activities concerned.In the case of oil supplies passing to Rhodesia from Mozambique, measures to reduce these supplies are at the forefront of our considerations at present.Finally, the transactions involved in the despatch of a back-axle to Rhodesia are being investigated by the appropriate authorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what information he has regarding the extent to which the Chinese Republic is trading with Rhodesia; and if he will make a statement.

    We have no evidence that the Chinese Republic is trading with Rhodesia.

    Scotland

    Scottish Trades Union Congress (Discussions)

    77.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on his discussions with representatives of the Scottish Trades Union Congress on the economic position in Scotland.

    Members of the S.T.U.C. Economic Committee came to see my right hon. Friend on 29th September. Questions of special current importance to the Scottish economy were discussed, including the level of unemployment, the disaster at Michael Colliery, the problems of the shipbuilding industry, and the importance of training. My right hon. Friend made it clear to the S.T.U.C. that its views and constructive suggestions on matters of this kind were welcomed by and were helpful to the Government in their task of promoting economic development and growth in Scotland.

    Livestock Buildings (Rating)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what will be the saving in Exchequer grants to local authorities in Scotland consequent on the recent legal decision that intensive livestock buildings are to be fully rated.

    There will be no saving, because the total rate support grant is fixed: but the apportionment between local authorities of the resources element of the grant will reflect any above-average increase in rating resources in areas where these buildings are situated.

    Police Forces (Strength)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the number of policemen employed in Scotland at the most recent date for which figures are available; what was the total of the authorised establishments of Scottish police forces on the same date; and if he will give the comparable figures for the same month in each of the past five years.

    At 30th September, 1967 the actual strength of all Scottish forces was 10,232 and the authorised establishment 11,201. Comparable figures for the same month in each of the past five years are:

    YearStrengthEstablishment
    1962……9,60710,081
    1963……9,85310,190
    1964……9,99310,718
    1965……10,30011,051
    1966……10,24411,131

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the shortage of teachers in Scotland at the most recent date for which figures are available; and what was the shortage in Glasgow on the same date.

    Estimates for the current session will be available about the end of the year. Meantime the latest figures are those which I gave the hon. Member on 15th June.—[Vol. 748, c. 134–5.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has yet decided whether to approve and implement the recommendations of the Roberts Committee on the Distribution of Teachers in Scotland.

    I expect shortly to constitute the new salary negotiating body under the Remuneration of Teachers (Scotland) Act, and I propose thereafter to put detailed proposals to the management side as a basis for the negotiation of a scheme of supplementary payments on the lines of the Roberts Committee Report to take effect from 1st April, 1968 as part of the revision of salaries due from that date. I have set out my position in a letter sent today to the local authority associations, the text of which is as follows:

    Scottish Education Department

    23rd October, 1967.

    Dear Sir,

    Report of the Roberts Committee

    The Secretary of State has asked me to convey to you certain conclusions which he has reached on the recommendations in the Report of the Committee appointed by him under the Chairmanship of Dame Jean Roberts on "Measures to Secure a More Equitable Distribution of Teachers in Scotland".

    In view of the measure of disagreement expressed in the comments made to him on the Report by educational bodies, and in view also of the Government's policies on prices and incomes during the periods of "standstill" and "severe restraint", the Secretary of State felt unable to take action on the basis of the Committee's recommendations as they stood. Nevertheless he has had much in mind the need to take all practicable steps to improve the distribution of teachers and to mitigate the effects of the severe shortage of staff in particular schools, and he accepts that a scheme for additional payments to teachers in designated schools would be valuable for this purpose.

    He expects shortly to constitute the new salary negotiating body under the Remuneration of Teachers (Scotland) Act, and he proposes thereafter to put detailed proposals to the management side as a basis for the negotiation of a scheme of supplementary payments on the lines of the Report to take effect from 1st April 1968 as part of the revision of salaries due from that date.

    The main recommendation in the Report was that teachers in schools designated as schools of temporary shortage should have an addition to salary of ÂŁ100 a year, within an overall limit of 10 per cent. of the total number of certificated teachers. This recommendation the Secretary of State accepts in principle, but he considers that modifications ought to be made in its practical application in order to concentrate the assistance in those areas where the shortage of teachers is most serious. The Secretary of State does not wish in any way to prejudice consideration of the detailed proposals which he will be bringing forward, or the subsequent negotiations, but he thinks it right to give an indication at this stage of the modifications which he for his part would think it desirable should be made.

    The Committee's proposals for the designation of schools depend, among other things, on the definition of national averages for pupil/teacher ratios for schools of different types and sizes; and they also involve as well as an overall limit on the number of teachers whose salaries may be supplemented, representing 10 per cent. of the total number of certificated teachers in the schools, a corresponding limit in individual education authority areas. The Secretary of State would consider it preferable not to proceed on the basis of national average pupil /teacher ratios associated with a limit of 10 per cent. for individual education authority areas. He believe that, in determining the extent to which schools may be designated, there are strong arguments for adopting a system of "weighted quotas" reflecting the relative shortage of teachers in individual education authority areas in order to concentrate the assistance which the scheme would afford on those areas which, on a comparative basis, are relatively worst placed.

    To test this approach the Secretary of State has had carried out a comparative analysis of pupil/teacher ratios over the country as a whole in order to show the distribution as between education authority areas of the most poorly staffed schools. This showed that these schools were very largely concentrated in a very few education areas. On this approach provisional "quotas" of posts can be derived to govern the designation of schools which would concentrate the measure of assistance which the scheme would give on those areas where the shortage of teachers is most serious. These areas which would benefit would include Ayrshire, Dunbartonshire, Glasgow, Lanarkshire and Renfrewshire Education Authorities; but otherwise no more than a few authorities would be likely to be involved.

    I am asked to stress that what is said above about the effect of the approach which the Secretary of State would himself favour is intended purely to illustrate the nature of the modifications which he considers ought to be made in the application of the Report's main recommendation. He is not concerned at this juncture to make detailed or specific proposals: these will be brought forward shortly in the management side of the salary negotiating body.

    On the related recommendation of the Roberts Committee for payment to teachers in respect of travelling expenses the Secretary of State would propose to consult the local authority associations in the first instance, subject to the progress of negotiations on an inducements scheme.

    He intends also to consult the associations, and the main teachers' associations, on proposals for the re-introduction of specific arrangements for restraint on the recruitment of teachers for better staffed areas: he regards this as a necessary corollary to the other measures metioned.

    I am writing in similar terms to the Association of County Councils.

    Copies of this letter are being sent to the main teachers' associations.

    Yours faithfully,

    (R. P. FRASER)

    W. Borland, Esq., S.S.C.,

    Hon. Clerk,

    Scottish Counties of Cities Association,

    City Chambers,

    Edinburgh, 1.

    Indictable Offences

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons were committed for trial in Scottish courts on charges of murder, culpable homicide and assault, respectively, in the first nine months of 1967; and what were the comparable figures for the first nine months of 1966, 1965, 1964, 1961 and 1956, respectively.

    Murder Statistics

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many murders were made known to the police in Scotland in the first nine months of 1967; and what were the comparable figures for the first nine months of the years 1966, 1965, 1964, 1961 and 1956, respectively.

    It is the established practice to adjust the statistics of offences of murder made known to the police to exclude offences initially recorded as murder but later found not to be murder, and these figures are compiled for complete years only. Whole-year figures for previous years may be found in the published Criminal Statistics; those for 1967 will be available early in 1968.

    Home Department

    Borstal Establishment (Irthlingborough)

    78.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what reply he has sent to a letter, dated 10th October 1967, from the urban district council of Irthlingborough, regarding his proposal to establish a Borstal in that town; and if he will order a public inquiry to be held before coming to a decision.

    The letter has been acknowledged. I am studying the views of the district council, together with those of the county planning authority, and I shall consult my right hon. Friend, the Minister of Housing and Local Government. A decision about a public local inquiry will follow these consultations.

    Unfit Vehicle Prosecutions (Hillingdon)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions took place in 1964, 1965 and 1966 for the use on the roads of Hillingdon of unfit vehicles.

    Statistics of prosecutions are not prepared for individual boroughs, and the expense of obtaining figures for Hillingdon alone in 1965 and 1966 and for the area now comprised in Hillingdon prior to 1st April 1965 would not be justified.In X Division of the Metropolitan police district, which includes the London boroughs of Ealing and Hillingdon, there were 650 prosecutions in 1966 in respect of defective vehicles and 323 in the period from 1st April onwards in 1965. Divisional boundaries in the Metropolitan police district were revised on 1st April 1965, and there are therefore no comparable figures for 1964 or the first 3 months of 1965.

    Chinese Mission (Police Patrol)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in view of the recent disturbances outside the Chinese Mission in London which have resulted in increased police duties in the neighbourhood, what is the cost to public funds of maintaining this police patrol.

    The daily cost to public funds of the officers engaged on this duty is approximately ÂŁ1,070. As these officers would normally be on duty elsewhere, this cost does not represent an additional charge on public funds. An extra cost of ÂŁ10 a day is, however, being incurred for transport.

    Mr Luckhurst

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will set up an independent inquiry to review the conviction of Mr. Luckhurst.

    At my request the Acting Chief Constable of Buckinghamshire is arranging for a senior officer from another force to make further inquiries into this difficult case.

    United States Citizens (Work Permits)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in how many cases work permits have been granted for United States citizens performing the duties of directors of companies registered in the United Kingdom since 1964; and in how many instances applications for such permits have been refused.

    Defendants (Legal Representation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what estimate he has made of the number of defendants who are sentenced to imprisonment each year without being legally represented.

    I regret that I am unable to make any estimate from the available information.

    Immigration Appeals Committee (Recommendation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he accepts the recommendation of the Committee on Immigration Appeals that an entry certificate or visa should guarantee the holder's admission, subject to limited and specified exceptions.

    Yes. I have already instructed immigration officers to give effect to this recommendation. I shall shortly lay before Parliament a White Paper embodying the necessary amendments to the published Instructions to Immigration Officers under the Commonwealth Immigrants Act (Cmnd. 3064).

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Drainage Rates

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to provide a procedure for revising and amending assessments for drainage rates now that Schedule A has been abolished.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer which I eave to my hon. Friend the Member for White-haven (Mr. Symonds) on 6th July, 1967. —[Vol. 749, c. 289.]

    Cyclamates

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether, in view of his decision not to permit the use of sodium cyclamates in foodstuffs until 1st December, 1967, so that such use can be covered by new labelling regulations, he will give an assurance that these regulations will make it obligatory to state specifically that sodium cyclamate is contained in any particular wrapped, packaged, canned or bottled foodstuffs or soft drinks, and that steps will also be taken to inform the public when and to what extent sodium cyclamates are contained in unwrapped foodstuffs;(2) whether, since the Second Report of the Food Additives Committee on Cyclamates emphasised that a daily intake of 50 mg. cyclamates/kg. body-weight should not be exceeded, and that the toxicological effects of cyclohexamine should be fully examined urgently, he will arrange that the new labelling regulations covering the use of cyclamates after 1st December, 1967, will make obligatory an indication of the amount of cyclamate contained in any wrapped, packaged, canned or bottled foodstuffs or soft drinks so that the public can ensure that their intake of this new artificial sweetener does not approach the danger level.

    No. Where the use of artificial sweeteners in food is permitted, the proposed new labelling regulations will make it obligatory to state either their specific names or the generic term "artificial sweetener". A very limited number of foods, principally chocolate, sugar and flour confectionery, will be exempt from this requirement. The use of cyclamates in food will be kept under continuous review. But in view of the advice of the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee, my right hon. Friend and his right hon. Friend the Minister of Health are satisfied that the new regulations will ensure that there is no risk to health.

    Live Ponies (Shipment To The Continent)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has studied the report dated 31st July with regard to consignments of live ponies shipped to the Continent on 26th and 27th July which has been sent to the Parliamentary Secretary by the hon. Member for Antrim, South; what steps he is taking to prevent unnecessary suffering to ponies shipped from Great Britain; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes.I am satisfied that there are adequate safeguards in the existing regulations to prevent unnecessary suffering to ponies while being shipped from Great Britain.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will state, in table form, the numbers of ponies exported to Europe for breeding or riding and for slaughter, respectively, during each of the past 12 months for which figures are available.

    The numbers of ponies exported for breeding or riding purposes which have been inspected by my Department's Veterinary Inspectors in the last twelve months are as follows:

    October 1966……767
    November 1966……772
    December 1966……196
    January 1967……122
    February 1967……161
    March 1967……142
    April 1967……232
    May 1967……386
    June 1967……333
    July 1967……346
    August 1967……421
    September 1967……331
    Total……4,209

    In no case has slaughter been shown as the purpose of export in applications made to my Department in respect of ponies.

    Usk Flood Prevention Scheme

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the revised flood prevention scheme for the Usk which has been submitted to him.

    The revised scheme was submitted to the Ministry on 13th September and was approved for grant on 4th October. I hope that, when completed, it will prevent any recurrence of the serious flooding which most regrettably affected Usk last week.

    Queen's Bench Division (Proceedings Before Masters)

    asked the Attorney-General whether he will take steps to ensure that representatives of the Press may be admitted to proceedings before Masters of the Queen's Bench Division.

    My noble Friend the Lord Chancellor is satisfied that the practice of conducting interlocutory proceedings before Masters in private is in the public interest. Interlocutory proceedings which take place before the actual trial of an action are of a technical and procedural nature, and premature publication of what takes place might tend to prejudice the settlement of disputes and, in many cases, might unjustifiably affect the credit and reputation of litigants.

    High Court (Solicitors)

    asked the Attorney-General whether he will introduce legislation to enable solicitors, if they and their clients so wish, to plead in the High Court.

    No; to give solicitors the same rights of audience in the High Court as barristers would inevitably involve fusion of the two branches of the profession, and I do not think this would be in the public interest.

    Education And Science

    Universities (Medical Students)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has studied the information supplied by the hon. Member for Antrim, South with regard to the bottleneck for medical students at the Universities of England and Wales; and what immediate steps he is taking to improve the present position.

    Yes. The Government agreed in August to the establishment of a new medical school at Southampton. When this and other projects have been completed the number of places available last year in Great Britain as a whole will have been increased by about 650. The case for further expansion is being considered by the Royal Commission on Medical Education.

    Birmingham Theatre School (Awards)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is aware that certain local authorities are prepared to give grants to students attending courses at the Birmingham Theatre School while others are not, and if he will take steps to review in consultation with the Secretary of State for Scotland the present arrangements with a view to ensuring a greater uniformity of practice regarding grants for students attending such colleges and schools.

    Awards for all further education courses, other than first degree and comparable courses, are made by local education authorities at their discretion as laid down in Section 2 of the 1962 Education Act. Guidance has been given in Circular 4/66 to authorities about the exercise of their statutory discretion in these matters. I do not at present see any need to add to this guidance.

    Medical Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the reason for the lack of available places in medical schools in Great Britain; and if he is aware that owing to lack of space in medical schools in Great Britain Mrs. Diana Pearce has gone to Czechoslovakia to qualify as a doctor.

    In 1957 a Committee appointed to consider the future numbers of medical practitioners and the appropriate intake of medical students advised that the existing medical schools were more than adequate to meet expected needs, and available resources for university expansion were therefore concentrated on other faculties. It became apparent in the early 1960s that the need had been underestimated, and since then the medical schools have steadily increased their intake and the University Grants Committee have allocated capital for further expansion. My attention was drawn to press reports that Miss Pearce had gone overseas to study.

    Direct Grant Grammar Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what further measures he proposes to take to ensure that the direct grant grammar schools comply with the Government's policy for the reorganisation of secondary education on comprehensive lines.

    I have decided in consultation with my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Scotland to ask the Public Schools Commission to review this issue and the related problem of the grant-aided schools in Scotland. I propose therefore to add the following to the Commission's present terms of reference:

    "To advise on the most effective method or methods by which the direct grant grammar schools in England and Wales and the grant-aided schools in Scotland can participate in the movement towards comprehensive reorganisation, and to review the principle of central government grant to these schools."
    This will not delay the preparation of the Commission's First Report on independent boarding schools.I understand that after completing this Report, which I expect to receive in the first half of next year, the Commission propose to direct its attention to the day independent schools and the new terms of reference will then take effect. Nearer the time I propose, in consultation with my right hon. Friend, to appoint some additional members to the Commission. Pending the Commission's Second Report and any action which the Government may decide to take in the light of its recommendations, my right hon. Friend and I would hope that arrangements already operating between the schools and local education authorities under Circular 10/65 for England and Wales and Circular 600 for Scotland, and any discussions which may be in progress, should continue.

    Economic Affairs

    Jackson Report

    asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether the Jackson Report into statistical reliability has been completed; and when it will be published.

    Mr. Jackson, to whom I should like to express our gratitude, submitted a report on improvements needed in official statistics in the Spring of this year. This was not in a form suitable for publication.

    National Finance

    Rateable Value (Greater London)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage increase took place in the rateable values of premises in Greater London in 1966; and what was the increase in the case of the London Borough of Hillingdon.

    The total rateable value for Greater London on 1st April, 1967, was 1·65 per cent. greater than it was a year before. The comparable figure for the London Borough of Hillingdon was 1.86 per cent.

    Post War Credits (Interest Rate)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he has to bring the interest payments on Post War Credits up to a level comparable with building society deposit rates, especially in cases of hardship.

    I do not contemplate any increase in the rate of interest paid on Post-War Credits.

    Bank Interest

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why bank interest payable is not allowable in advance to a taxpayer in the same way as building society interest, in cases of long-term loans where the interest is estimated in advance by the bank.

    If my hon. Friend has a particular case in mind and will send me details I will have it looked into.

    Income Tax (Legislation)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects to introduce a new Income Tax Act consolidating all the new tax measures introduced since the Income Tax Act 1952.

    A Bill to consolidate the capital allowance provisions, will be introduced at the beginning of next Session. Work is now in progress on the consolidation of the rest of the Income Tax and Corporation Tax law. Preliminary legislation in a Finance Bill will probably be needed; I cannot be definite at this stage, but I hope that it may be possible to introduce the consolidation Bill in time to come into force on 6th April 1970.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Selective Employment Tax could be retained in the event of British membership of the European Economic Community.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the answers I gave the hon. Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. Ridley) on 13th June.—[Vol. 748, c. 278–9.]

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what directives have been promulgated by the European Economic Community for the introduction of a common system of taxation on value added; when this system will come into force; by what approximate date national laws must be introduced to bring in the system; and what consideration Her Majesty's Government is giving to this matter in relation to its application for membership of the European Economic Community.

    Two directives, dated 11th April, 1967, have been promulgated by the European Economic Community; the first on the harmonisation of legislation of member States concerning turnover taxes, the second on the structure and procedure for applying the common system of tax on value added. In each member state, legislation to introduce this system is to be adopted as rapidly as possible, so that it can come into force at a date to be fixed by the member state, but not later than 1st January 1970. As to Her Majesty's Government's position in relation to its application for membership of the European Economic Community, I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 8th May, 1967.—[Vol. 746, c. 1089.]

    British Parliamentary Delegates (Subsistence Allowances For France)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by how much the cost of living has risen in France for British Parliamentary Delegates to the Assemblies of the Council of Europe and Western European Union since the present subsistence allowances were fixed.

    The present subsistence allowances for France were fixed with effect from 1st August, 1964, and are now under review. The United Nations monthly Bulletin of Statistics indicates that the rise in the cost of living since 1964 is about 8 per cent.

    Local Government

    Public Lavatories, Manchester (Wheelchair Patients)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many public lavatories in Manchester are accessible to wheelchair patients, male and female; and what steps are being taken to improve the situation especially with regards to women who are worst affected.

    The Corporation inform me that there is none, but that there are special facilities at certain centres and clubs which may be used by any disabled person. They will bear the needs of the disabled in mind when designing new surface lavatories or reconstructing old ones. My right hon. Friend hopes soon to issue to local authorities a circular of guidance on the design of special compartments in public lavatories for use by wheelchair patients.

    Registered Plumbers Association (Letter)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government on what date he received a letter from the General Secretary of the Registered Plumbers Association concerning the compulsory registration of plumbers on 24th July, 1967; and if he will give details of the content of the letter and of his reply, including the date of the reply.

    The letter, which was received on 25th July, broadly asked my right hon. Friend's support for the compulsory registration of plumbers. In his reply of 25th August the Joint Parliamentary Secretary said that the Ministry thought that voluntary arrangements based on goodwill and the raising of standards were more likely to benefit the public than compulsory arrangements based on minimum standards. I am sending copies of the correspondence to my hon. Friend.

    Piccadilly Circus (Reconstruction)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he expects the reconstruction of the Piccadilly Circus area will start; and by when it will be completed.

    I understand that the Greater London Council and the Council of the City of Westminster recently concluded detailed studies of the problems involved in implementing Lord Holford's proposals and are urgently seeking the agreement of private developers to a joint development brief. They hope to make a public announcement soon.

    Housing

    Option Mortgages (Applications)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many applications have been made for option mortgages in England and Wales; and how many of these applications have been approved.

    Present indications are that some 10 per cent. of new borrowers are choosing option mortgages. Existing borrowers have until 31st December to decide whether to switch to option mortgages, but borrowers from a few lending agencies had to make their choice by 30th September. About 5 per cent, of these changed to option mortgages. I shall have fuller information in December. No approval is required for the purpose of the scheme, although the lending agencies will, of course, apply their usual tests before deciding whether or not to grant a mortgage.

    Vacant Accommodation (Registers)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will take steps to ensure that all local authorities display in their libraries or town halls a register of the vacant accommodation in their areas.

    As a first step my right hon. Friend thinks it would be wise to wait until we see the results of the experiment being carried out in the keeping of registers of houses for sale before going any further. He has recently invited 31 more local authorities to join this experiment with the 6 authorities already keeping these registers.

    Telephone Service

    Crumlin Exchange

    asked the Postmaster-General (1) what is the reason for the inability of the exchange at Crumlin in County Antrim to provide service to applicants for telephones; and when such service will be provided;(2) how many applications for the telephone service are outstanding on the Crumlin exchange in County Antrim; and what is the longest period for such an application.

    The lines linking Crumlin to Belfast are seriously overloaded, and if we were to connect anyone else to Crumlin exchange at present it would make it much more difficult for existing customers to make their calls. We are putting down a new cable which should cure the trouble. It should be completed by September 1968, but in the meantime we are taking special measures which should enable us to give service to the 40 waiting applicants within a few weeks. The earliest application dates from November, 1966.

    Post Office

    Special Stamps

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will now issue a regional stamp for Cornwall.

    asked the Postmaster-General if, following the issue of a new definitive series of postage stamps, he will make a statement regarding the future issue of regional stamps.

    The remaining denominations of the new definitive postage stamp will be issued at intervals during 1968. My right hon. Friend is planning to issue new regional stamps in the following year.

    Ministry Of Power

    Electricity And Gas (Price Increases)

    asked the Minister of Power how many requests he has received suggesting that the increase in the price of electricity and gas, respectively, should be referred to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

    Technology

    European Airbus (Avionics)

    asked the Minister of Technology what basis of agreement was reached concerning the supply of avionics to the European Airbus project.

    National Research Development Corporation (Office Space)

    asked the Minister of Technology how many square feet of extra office space have been occupied in Greater London by the National Research Development Corporation since October 1964.

    I understand that the National Research Development Corporation has, since October 1964, increased its office space from 25,000 to 44,250 square feet.

    Board Of Trade

    South West Economic Planning Council

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for implementing the recommendation of the South West Economic Planning Council that the Government should continue to make every effort to maintain and extend the number of jobs available in West Cornwall, as contained in paragraph 426 of the Council's recent report.

    The issues raised by the Council are under close consideration by the Government. Meantime, we shall continue to use our powers to the full to assist the creation of employment in the area.

    Dangerous Toys (Imports)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that dangerous toys are being imported from Czechoslovakia and Hong Kong, and are currently on sale in shops in Scotland; and whether he will take steps to prevent such imports.

    I understand that action has already been taken by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department to secure the withdrawal from sale of the dangerous rattles which are the toys my hon. Friend no doubt has in mind and that the importers concerned will ensure that, in future, any rattles they import are safely designed and made.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will consider the setting up of an appropriate body to supervise the import of toys, the handling of which may cause danger to children buying them.

    No. The Board uses its powers to control imports only for broad economic or commercial purposes. Questions affecting the safety of consumer goods are for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department.

    Retail Trade (Turnover)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will state the latest figures of the turnover of retail trade in ÂŁs per head in England and Wales, Nottinghamshire, Nottingham, Mansfield, Alfreton, Hucknall, Sutton-in-Ashfield and Kirkby-in-Ashfield, respectively.

    In the Census of Distribution for 1961 retail trade turnover per head of the population in the areas listed was reported as follows:

    ÂŁ
    England and Wales…163
    Nottinghamshire(*)…157
    Nottingham…223
    Mansfield…265
    Alfreton (Derbyshire)…144
    Hucknall…142
    Sutton-in-Ashfield…127
    Kirkby-in-Ashfield…106
    The figures relate to returns received, i.e. they do not include any allowance for non-response (estimated as an addition of 7½ per cent. for Great Britain as a whole).(*) The Administrative County with the County Borough of Nottingham.

    Employment For Young People (South Monmouthshire)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what action he proposes to take to provide more jobs for young people in South Monmouthshire, following the disclosure in the February-March, 1967 report of the South Monmouthshire Youth Employment Committee that in July, 1967 there were, in addition to the statistics of registered unemployed shown in the report, 109 boys and 109 girls registered, of whom 128 were school-leavers, with only three unfilled vacancies in the area.

    I am aware of the problem referred to. Young people should benefit from developments taking place in the area and I would welcome the creation of suitable additional employment opportunities. Where we can actively assist, as in the Development Area, I should be willing to do so.

    Chipboard (Imports From Eastern Europe)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will now make a statement on imports of chipboard from East European countries, in view of the importance of this matter for the chipboard and forestry industries.

    I appreciate the importance which the chipboard and forestry industries attach to this matter, but discussions with the Eastern European countries mainly concerned are still continuing and I cannot say at this stage what the outcome will be.

    Advance Factories, Scotland (Employees)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many persons are employed in Scotland in advance factories, the building of which was announced after 16th October, 1964.

    Honey (Imports From China And Australia)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state the quantities of honey imported from China and Australia, respectively during the first six months of 1967 and 1966, respectively; and what reply he has given to representations from the Australian interests involved.

    The quantities are as follows:

    January-June, 1966January-June, 1967
    Cwts.ÂŁ'sCwts.ÂŁ's
    U.K. Code 06136
    Honey—
    Natural
    World…136,505821,122144,696793,517
    Australia…67,750333,67547,290247,255
    China…4261,78313,88649,658
    No representations from Australian interests have been received.

    Hire Purchase (Rebates Legislation)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made in the consideration of the possibility of legislating for compulsory rebates for early settlement of hire-purchase and credit-sale agreements; and if he will make a statement.

    I would not expect to legislate on this point, if it proved to be practicable to do so, except as part of a general revision of hire-purchase legislation. This is not at present contemplated.

    Monopolies Commission (Estate Agents)

    asked the President of the Borade what is the estimated cost of the Monopolies Commission's inquiry into the services of estate agents and what provision is made for defraying the costs incurred by estate agents in dealing with the Commission's inquiries.

    It is not possible to estimate the cost to public funds of a particular investigation by the Monopolies Commission, but a summary of the Commission's annual expenditure is given each year in the Annual Report by the Board of Trade on the operation of the Monopolies and Mergers Acts.Section 8(4) of the Monopolies and Restrictive Practices (Inquiry and Control) Act 1948 provides for payment by the Commission of the expenses of witnesses and persons furnishing returns or estimates or other information, but the Commission are expressly prohibited from making such payments in connection with the inquiries in which they find that monopoly conditions prevail.

    Textile Industry (European Economic Community)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what consideration he is giving to the effect of entry to the European Economic Community on the textile industry; whether safeguarding the interests of the textile industry is regarded as a matter for negotiation with the European Economic Community before entry; and if he will make a statement.

    I am considering this issue with the Textile Council and the Textile Council Imports Commission and will take full account of the interests of the textile industry during the negotiations.

    British Exports (Prohibitions And Quota Restrictions)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade on which British goods import embargoes or quotas, respectively, have been imposed by Commonwealth and other countries, respectively.

    Virtually all countries impose prohibitions or quota restrictions of some kind on some of their imports from all sources. These affect British goods in varying degrees. It would not be possible within the space of a Parliamentary Reply to give complete details: if my hon. Friend would let me know of any particular case he has in mind, I will try to give him the relevant information.

    Aviation

    British European Airways (Computers)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what has been the capital expenditure of British European Airways on computers and computer services, respectively; how many advisory staff and computer programmers are employed by British European Airways; what is the current cost of operating these services; and whether there is any surplus capacity.

    The Minister of State (Lord Brown) wrote to the hon. Member in August, suggesting that he might care to approach the Air Corporation direct for this information.

    British Overseas Airways Corporation (Computers)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade, what has been the capital expenditure of the British Overseas Airways Corporation on computers and computer services, respectively; how many advisory staff and computer programmers are employed by the Corporation; what is the current cost of operating these services; and whether there is any surplus capacity.

    The Minister of State (Lord Brown) wrote to the hon. Member in August, suggesting that he might care to approach the Air Corporation direct for this information.

    Aldergrove Air Terminal (Traffic)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is satisfied with the facilities provided for the setting down and taking up of passengers by motor cars at Aldergrove air terminal in County Antrim; what plans he has for their improvement; and if, in the interests of the travelling public, he will make a statement.

    When the road works now proceeding in front of the terminal building are completed during this coming winter, the facilities for the setting down and taking up of passengers should be fully adequate for the forecast traffic.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is satisfied with the facilities provided for taxi cabs and cars for hire at Aldergrove air terminal in County Antrim; what plans he has for their improvement; and if, in the interests of the travelling public, he will make a statement.

    Facilities for taxis and hire cars have recently been much improved by the completion of the terminal building extension. A booking desk for taxis is being installed in the arrivals hall and when this is available the arrangements should be fully satisfactory.

    Private Aircraft And Helicopters

    asked the President of the Board of Trade how many privately owned aircraft and privately owned helicopters are currently licensed for flying from aerodromes in the United Kingdom; and what were the corresponding figures for 1962.

    Aircraft which are not engaged in public air transport operations do not need a licence in order to use United Kingdom aerodromes. Approximately 650 privately owned aircraft and 13 privately owned helicopters hold current British Certificates of Airworthiness. The corresponding numbers at the end of 1962 were approximately 500 and 5. These figures do not include aircraft owned by airlines or by flying clubs and groups.

    Transport

    Damaged Motor Vehicles (Log Book Recording)

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce legislation to compel the recording on the log book of any car which has been seriously damaged the date and broad details of the damage before it can be resold.

    No. Such legislation would be very difficult to frame and impossible to enforce. It is already an offence to sell, or to offer for sale, a motor vehicle which is not in a condition in which it can legally be used.

    Refrigerated Vehicles (Taxation)

    asked the Minister of Transport why it has not proved possible to give concessions in the terms of taxation for refrigerated vehicles.

    Refrigerated vehicles are not treated any differently to many other types of specialised vehicles which have a comparable amount of built-in equipment.

    Road Transport Storage Depots (Review)

    asked the Minister of Transport if she will arrange for an organisation and methods review of road transport storage depots with a view to ascertaining to what extent these are encumbered by loads that arrive prematurely at their destinations and which could be sent by slower means of transport without any loss of efficiency.

    No. I have no evidence of any difficulty caused by the premature arrival of goods at such depots.

    Roads

    A1 (Berwick-Upon-Tweed)

    asked the Minister of Transport what proposals have been made to her to improve the trunk road (A1) in Berwick-upon-Tweed; and if she will make a statement particularly in relation to the Elizabethan ramparts which would be affected thereby.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Viscount Lambton) on 27th July, 1967. —[Vol. 751, c. 253.]

    Railways

    Patton—Bristol Line (Passenger Census)

    asked the Minister of Transport why a census of passengers from Yatton to Bristol during the holiday period is being made when accurate figures will not be obtainable.

    I understand from the Railways Board that surveys of the main line and local passenger traffic on the route between Bristol, Weston-super-Mare and Taunton were carried out in June and August, 1967 as part of a pro- gramme of surveys designed to give information about the traffic on the route at different times of the year. The next survey, which will be confined to local traffic, will take place during the coming winter.

    Timetables (Printing Cost)

    asked the Minister of Transport how much British Railways spent on the printing of timetables and other similar publications in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and how much of this total was in respect of material printed in Scotland.

    This is a matter of detailed management. If the British Railways Board have the information readily available they will, I am sure, let the hon. Member have it.