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Written Answers

Volume 751: debated on Thursday 26 October 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 26th October, 1967

Home Department

Civil Defence

3.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department upon what estimate of the number of survivors in the event of a major nuclear attack on this country he bases the civil defence of the United Kingdom.

The number of survivors would depend on so many variable factors that no worthwhile estimate can be given. The Government is nevertheless satisfied that on any reasonable assumption there would be millions of survivors, and that sensible plans for Civil Defence would add greatly to their number.

Off-Licences (Numbers)

6.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total number of off-licences held now and in 1961, respectively.

26,590 in England and Wales on 30th June, 1966; and 23,934 on 30th June, 1961.

Bank Holidays

8.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions Her Majesty's Government held with the British Council of Churches with a view to establishing a fixed Easter Bank Holiday and a fixed Spring Bank Holiday at Whitsun; what information he has now received from the World Council of Churches and the British Council of Churches; what further initiative Her Majesty's Government proposes to take either through the United Nations or other organisations; and if he will publish a White Paper.

At the suggestion of the Government of the day, the British Council of Churches raised the issue of a fixed Easter with the World Council of Churches in 1964. Replies, most of them favourable, have been received from more than half of its member churches. Further consultation is now to be carried out by a study group of the World Council and a report prepared. If Easter could be fixed it would be for consideration whether the spring bank holiday should fall at Whitsuntide.

Isle Of Man

10.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the Government of the Isle of Man alleging interference by Her Majesty's Government in the internal affairs of the island.

There have been some recent disagreements with the Isle of Man on various issues including the extension to the Island of the Marine etc. Broadcasting Offences Act, but I am glad to inform the House that, following the highly successful visit to the island last month of my noble Friend, the Minister of State, the Isle of Man Government have accepted my invitation to engage in discussions with us of relations between the two Governments.

Murders

12.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give in column form the number of murders for each of the last 10 years, and for 1967 to the latest convenient date, for all crimes designated as murder on the same basis as 1957.

The latest corrected figures for offences of murder known to the police in England and Wales are:

1957151
1958125
1959141
1960135
1961130
1962142
1963133
1964153
1965151
1966141
All the figures are given on the same basis, except that those for 1957 may include some offences for the first two months of that year which, as a result of the Homicide Act 1957, would not now be classified as murder. The figure for 1966, which has recently been reduced by 2 as a result of decisions by the Court of Appeal, still includes one offence not yet disposed of by the courts. I hope to be able to give the 1967 figures next May.

Charles Connelly

16.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for what administrative reasons, and on whose specific authority, Charles Connelly was allowed out of prison without escort within the first year of his sentence.

Connelly, who was not in his first but his fifth year of sentence, was granted parole on the authority of the Governor of Parkhurst prison to attend his brother's funeral.

Kenyan Immigrants

19.

asked the Secreary of State for the Home Department how many people from Kenya of Indian or Pakistani origin have ben given leave to land and to settle in the United Kingdom so far this year, and what further numbers of them are likely to apply for admission during the next year or two; whether he will make a statement on the nature and size of the problem; and what steps will be taken by Her Majesty's Government to deal with it.

If the right hon. and learned Gentleman is referring to citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies resident in Kenya and holding passports issued by the Government of the United Kingdom, they do not require leave to settle here. Statistics are not available in the precise form indicated by the Question, but I have no doubt that there has recently been an appreciable increase in the inflow. I shall continue to watch the position carefully.

Channel Islands (European Economic Community)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions he has had, or intends to have, with the Governments of the Channel Islands concerning Great Britain's entry into the Common Market; and whether he will give an assurance that no action on Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community will be taken which will affect the Channel Islands, until the authorities there have signified their acceptance.

There has been the closest consultation on this matter between Her Majesty's Government and the Insular Authorities in the Channel Islands for a considerable time, and this will continue as necessary. My right hon. Friend is now awaiting the formal views of the Islands' legislatures.

Fugitive Offenders Act 1967

30.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications for authority to proceed under the Fugitive Offenders Act 1967 are currently before his Department; what is the average time between receipt of these applications and their disposal; whether he is aware that delay is occurring in the disposal of cases by the courts in consequence of the delay in obtaining authority to proceed; and what action he proposes to take to reduce the possibility of delay.

No such requests are currently before my Department. In the case of the one request that has been received since the Act came into operation on 1st September, the authority to the court to proceed was issued fifteen days after the receipt of the request, which I am satisfied was not an unreasonable time in the circumstances of the case.

Sexual Offences Act, 1967 (Released Prisoners)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons have been released from prisons as a result of the Sexual Offences Act, 1967.

Having regard to the change in the law, I authorised the earlier release of two persons sentenced before the Sexual Offences Act, 1967 came into force.

Commonwealth Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the fact that during the month of July, 1967, the number of Commonwealth citizens admitted into the United Kingdom, under the Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1962, included 5,717 from India, 4,358 from Pakistan, and 1,623 from Jamaica, and included 2,694, 2,278 and 440 men, respectively, how he proposes to implement the Government's policy of keeping immigration down to 7,500 per annum.

The limit of 7,500 applies to the number of employment voucher holders who may come here in a year from the Commonwealth (excluding Malta). As the hon. Member is well aware, his figures include business men, students and other visitors admitted temporarily, as well as residents, and take no account of departures during the same period.

Television And Books (Violence)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will commission an inquiry into the effect which violence in books or television has upon readers or an audience.

Research into these matters has already been initiated by the Television Research Committee, under the chairmanship of Mr. T. A. F. Noble, Vice-Chancellor of Leicester University. The Committee's terms of reference cover the way in which young people are influenced by television and other media.

Licensing Law

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will propose to introduce a simplified form of granting alcoholic licences for premises.

The Finance Act, 1967 has simplified licensing law by abolishing retail excise licences from 1st October. If my hon. Friend has any other suggestions, I shall be glad to consider them.

Criminological Research

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give an estimate of the total amount being spent annually on criminological research.

The approximate cost of criminological research falling on the Home Office Vote is expected to be £187,000 in the present financial year. This figure comprises expenditure on external research and the salary costs of the Home Office Research Unit, which is mainly engaged in criminological research. In addition, it is estimated that about £3,000 will be spent during the year by the Government Social Survey for carrying out related work on behalf of the Home Office.I am unable to give any close estimate of the amount spent on criminological research by other bodies.

Shop Hours (Legislation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for legislation allowing greater flexibility in shop opening hours.

Consultations with interested organisations on the suggestions published in the Home Departments' booklet "Retail Trading Hours" show that there is no approach to a common view on weekday hours. In the absence of broad agreement on the suggestions—to which, as was made clear, the Government were not committed—my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland and I do not intend to introduce legislation to amend the present provisions governing weekday hours. We hope that the abolition of statutory controls may come to be widely recognised as the right way of achieving greater flexibility.As regards Sunday trading in England and Wales, the Report of the Crathorne Committee on Sunday Observance contains recommendations which in my view represent a reasonable basis for eliminating the worst anomalies of the present situation.

Prisons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in co-ordination with the local authorities concerned, he will draw up a longterm plan for selling the sites of obsolete urban prisons to finance the construction of modern penal establishments on less valuable sites.

I am in touch with the appropriate local authority associations on this general issue, and I shall consult the individual local authorities concerned as soon as it is possible to formulate proposals for particular prisons. But for some years to come the weight of our effort must regrettably go to relieving the present serious overcrowding by building additional rather than replacement prisons.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisons at present use group therapy; and whether he will encourage such techniques by professional courses for prison staff.

Group therapy is used in appropriate cases by the prison medical officers and visiting psychotherapists who provide formal psychiatric treatment in 27 prison service establishments in England and Wales. Group counselling by specially trained prison staff is in use in 12 establishments.Prison medical officers are encouraged to acquire psychiatric qualifications. Training is arranged for group counsellors at the Prison Service Staff College and in their own establishments.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of prisons which are over 50 years old, together with their date of construction, for how many prisoners they were built, and their present number of prisoners.

The available information in respect of prisons in England and Wales is given in the table below. The number of prisoners for which each prison was built is not known, but the daily average population at the turn of the century is given.

Prisons over 50 years oldDate of constructionDaily average population for year ending 31s March 1901Number of inmates on 30th September 1967
Aylesbury1845124182
Bedfordc. 1848101219
Birminghamc. 1845492892
Bristol1883182516
Brixtonc. 1853380*819
Camp Hill191278†332
Canterbury1852‡170325
Cardiffc. 1830188379
Chelmsfordc. 1812230423
Dartmoorc. 1800946551
Dorchester1879‡82185
Durhamc. 1881446925

Prisons over 50 years old

Date of construction

Daily average population for year ending 31st March 1901

Number of inmates on 30th September 1967

Exeterc. 1853174341
Gloucesterc. 184064231
Holloway1853755333
Hull1869242238
Lancasterc. 1800‡80249
Leedsc. 1840427966
Leicesterc. 1850133307
Lewesc. 1855266300
Lincoln1869138410
Liverpool18541,1031,319
Maidstonec. 1817220501
Manchester18681,0161,398
Northallertonc. 1850‡110128
Norwich189285243
Nottinghamc. 1890127235
Oxford185891270
Parkhurstc. 1804703505
Pentonville18421,0591,336
Prestonc. 1820391640
Shepton Mallet1902‡65122
Shrewsbury1885‡78189
Staffordc. 1845‡514793
Swansea185992258
Wakefield1847‡627706
Wandsworthc. 18491,0691,397
Winchester1855348452
Wormwood Scrubs1874–18911,2721,485

Notes

* Figure for year ended 31st March, 1904—the first complete year's occupation after renovation.
† Figure for year ended 31st March, 1913.
‡ Some buildings are older.
In many of the prisons, alterations and additions have been made since the original date of construction.

Miss Elliott

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will hold an inquiry into the arrest and detention of Cass Elliott; and if he will make a statement.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis tells me that the warrant for Miss Elliott's arrest was issued by a magistrate on the application of a private person at West London magistrates' court. It gave no authority for her release on bail pending her appearance in court. Miss Elliott was arrested at Southampton on 5th October, taken to London on the same day and detained overnight at a police station. Her case was heard by a magistrate on the following day and dismissed. In the circumstances the police had no option but to act as they did, and I can find no grounds for a further inquiry.

Sneddon V Stevenson (Decision)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to reverse the decision in Sneddon versus Stevenson and to make the evidence of agents provocateurs inadmissible in courts.

The question of what shall be admissible evidence in criminal cases is under consideration by the Criminal Law Revision Committee.

Security Organisations (Licensing)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will consider taking steps by legislation or otherwise to require the licensing of, and enforcement of, minimum standards of private security organisations.

I am not at present persuaded of the need for such action, but I shall keep the matter under review.

Commonwealth Immigration Act (Gibraltarians)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in the light of the Gibraltar referendum on 10th September, he will now relax the application of the Commonwealth Immigration Act affecting Gibraltarians.

No. The referendum was not concerned with immigration to the United Kingdom.

Breathalysers (Sale To The Public)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for the sale to the public of breathalysers similar to those used by the Metropolitan Police Force.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given today to a Question by the hon. Member for Blackpool, South (Mr. Blaker).

Roadside Breath Tests

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many drivers in the Metropolitan area were made to take the breathalyser test during the first two weeks after the introduction of the Road Safety Act; how many of these were found to be within the safety limit; and whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the grounds on which these drivers were stopped by the police.

Roadside breath tests were required of 616 persons, 397 of whom appeared from the test not to have a proportion of alcohol in the blood exceeding the prescribed limit. Information on the last part of the Question is not available.

Vietnamese Students

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he refused permission for three Vietnamese students arriving from Canada to stay in this country for a short time for the purpose of expressing to British students the point of view of those Vietnamese who are opposed to the present regime in Saigon.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the speech made by my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State on 23rd October.—[Vol. 751, c. 1430–44.]

Crime

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give details of the improvement in the crime rate during the first six months of 1967.

In London, during the first six months of this year, recorded crime was 4 per cent. down compared with the corresponding period last year. It was 2 per cent. down in Birmingham. 6 per cent. down in Hampshire and 8 per cent. down in Lancashire. In certain other areas the position was not so satisfactory, but in the country as a whole, during the first six months of this year, recorded crime increased by only 2 per cent. over the corresponding period of 1966, whereas the increase in the first six months of 1966 over the corresponding Period of 1965 was 7 per cent. Increases in the corresponding periods in the years 1959 to 1965 averaged 9 per cent. These figures clearly give no ground for complacency, but they give reasonable grounds for hope that the steep rise in crime which has occurred every year since the mid-fifties may be flattening out.

Telephone Service

Croydon Telephone Directory (Postal Codes)

36.

asked the Postmaster-General why, in the course of printing the new Croydon telephone directory, the postal codes have been omitted from the addresses of subscribers.

Postal codes were not included because this would have increased the size and cost of the directory, and because of the risk that postal codes would have been dialled instead of telephone numbers.These difficulties would prevent postal codes being included at present, but the long-term arrangements are under review.

Mr Tom Jones

asked the Postmaster-General how many applicants were waiting for telephone service in the Sunbury-on-Thames area in July of this year; and what degree of priority was given to the application by Mr. Tom Jones.

321 at 31st July. Business users are generally given priority over residential applications, and Mr. Tom Jones' application was given business priority under the normal rules. We were able to give him service quickly because there was already a telephone in the house.

Waiting List (Northumberland)

asked the Postmaster-General how many applications for telephone services are on the waiting list at Ashington, Morpeth, and Newbigginby-the-Sea, in the county of Northumberland; what is the maximum waiting period; and what action is being taken to reduce it.

At 30th September, 1967, there were none at either Ashington or Morpeth, and 14 at Newbiggin-by-the-Sea. No applicant has waited longer than 8 months. Additional equipment has been provided at the exchange, and the lines are being re-arranged to allow service to be given to all applicants; but the connection of four of them will be dependent on wayleave consent by the U.D.C.

South Dorset Telephone Directory (Incorrect Entries)

asked the Postmaster-General how many complaints he has received from residents in the South Dorset constituency in respect of incorrect entries in the yellow pages of the telephone directory; in how many cases a refund has been offered for incorrect entries; and what funds have borne the cost of such refunds.

Ninety-five. I am sorry for any inconvenience which has been caused. No refunds have been sought from the Telephone Manager. Steps are being taken to improve the accuracy of the next edition.

Post Office

Stamps

asked the Postmaster-General why he gives prominence to the name Harrison on the new stamp series; and if he will instead give greater prominence to the name of the artist, for example Stubbs.

To give greater prominence to the artist's name would in many cases spoil the general design of the stamp. Inclusion of the printer's name helps them to compete in the world market with competitors from other countries who have adopted a similar practice.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will issue a commemorative stamp to record the holding of the commemorative Eisteddfod at Caerwys, Flintshire, in 1968, celebrating the foundation of the Welsh National Eisteddford in 1568.

National Computer Grid

asked the Postmaster-General what proposals he has for the establishment of a National Computing Grid, based upon multi-access computing, to assist in the rational planning of the British economy.

A national computer grid is one of the aims of the National Data Processing Service which I am now setting up. The basis of the grid will be the 20 large modern computers which my Department expects to have for its own purposes by 1971, augmented by other computers as demand may require. Multi-access facilities will be available on many of these computers.The Post Office's data transmission facilities are already in extensive use and are being increased in scope. Existing facilities permit connection to multi-access computers either over the public network or by means of specially rented circuits.I believe that the increasing use of these facilities will contribute materially to business efficiency generally.

Life Magazine (Advertisement Cost)

asked the Postmaster-General what was the cost of the full-page advertisement inserted in Life Magazine, Atlantic Edition, by the Post Office on 4th September, 1967, about the Marine. &c. Broadcasting (Offences) Act.

Wireless And Television

Bbc2 (Wales)

asked the Postmaster-General whether any British Broadcasting Corporation Wales or British Broadcasting Corporation 1 television transmitters in Wales have been adapted for British Broadcasting Corporation 2 transmission; where they are situated; and what was the total cost of adaptation in each case.

The transmission of B.B.C.2 requires the provision of ultra high frequency stations: that is, of additional transmitters and aerials designed to radiate signals on frequencies in the U.H.F. bands. So far as possible, these U.H.F. stations are located at existing very high frequency stations from which either B.B.C.1 or independent television programmes are broadcast. The capital expenditure on the B.B.C.2 station at Wenvoe was of the order of £300,000; and on that a Llanddona, £200,000.

asked the Postmaster-General what study has been made of the feasibility of adapting the British Broadcasting Corporation's transmitter at Blaenplwyf and Llandrindod Wells for the relaying of B.B.C.2 services in mid-Wales.

The V.H.F. transmitters currently used could not possibly be adapted to carry U.H.F. transmissions such as those used for B.B.C.2. However, as mentioned in my right hon. Friend's Answers of 22nd June and 4th July to my hon. Friend's Questions a U.H.F. station at Blaenplwyf to transmit B.B.C.2 services is included in plans he has already approved for the extension of the U.H.F. network. As regards Llandrindod Wells the B.B.C. tell me that the development of the network of U.H.F. stations has not yet reached the stage when they could plan for a station to serve that particular area.—[Vol. 748, c. 319–20; Vol. 749, c. 236.]

Education And Science

Comprehensive Education

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's policy for comprehensive education following the court decision on the Enfield case; and how many local education authorities have still not had their schemes for reorganisation on comprehensive lines approved by the Department.

The Government's policy is unaltered. The total number of authorities which have not yet had schemes covering either the whole or part of their area approved is 65, including 25 whose proposals are now under consideration in my Department.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what legislative steps he now intends to take to prevent local education authorities from deliberately defying Her Majesty's Government's policy on comprehensive education.

I am keeping an open mind on this question until I have made further progress with the examination of plans submitted to me under Circular 10/65.

School Management Committees (Appointments)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will take steps to ensure that appointments to school management committees are in future made not on a basis of political allegiance but on merit and representation of the community.

I agree with the views of the Plowden Council that the aim should be to appoint school managers who are genuinely concerned with education and prepared to devote time and trouble to it. But this is a matter which under present legislation, lies in the discretion of appointing bodies. The research now being undertaken by the London University Institute of Education with grant aid from my Department into the functions of managing and governing bodies will, when it is complete, give me an opportunity to review the wider aspects of this question.

Grammar Schools (Pupil Selection)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to ensure that parents in areas which retain selection for secondary education are able to obtain figures showing the numbers of children from each primary school in each area who have been selected for grammar schools.

Technological Institution (Northern Region)

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why the Northern Region has no technological university; and what steps he is taking to remedy this deficiency.

I consider that the needs of the Northern Region can at present be well met by existing higher education institutions. Proposals for a new technological institution in the North-East will be carefully considered when it becomes possible to contemplate the establishment of further new universities, but this is unlikely to be for some years.

Civil Research Station (Northern Region)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why there is no Government civil research station in the Northern Region; and what steps are being taken to establish such a station.

Of the bodies for which I am responsible, the Medical Research Council has its Reproduction and Growth Research Unit and Demyelinating Diseases Research Unit at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and the Natural Environment Research Council supports the Freshwater Biological Association Laboratory at Windermere in Westmorland.

Grammar Schools, Watford

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the Hertfordshire education authority agreed with the governors of the Watford grammar schools, on their being taken into controlled status, that only pupils of high academic ability should be admitted.

The admission of pupils is governed by the articles of government which were made in 1948 and which include a provision that the local education authority shall determine which candidates are qualified for admission by reason of their having attained a sufficient educational standard. I understand that the local education authority have no knowledge of any specific agreement of the kind referred to, though the schools are of course at present selective in their intake. Under the reorganisation plan for the county, which was approved last month, the schools will in due course become comprehensive.

Teacher Training College, Plymouth

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is able to announce whether a teacher training college is to be sited in Plymouth; and if he will give details as to its size and nature.

The College of St. Mark and St. John, at present in London, has reached agreement with the City of Plymouth to move the College to a site at Plymouth. Consultations are proceeding and I shall be prepared to authorise the provision of premises for a college of 750 places in the first instance, with the possibility of subsequent expansion if circumstances warrant it.

Schools And Colleges (Clerical Help)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether, in view of the value of voluntary service to both students and parents he will take steps to provide clerical help for grammar schools and technical colleges who have set up school leavers assistance services.

The provision of clerical help in schools and colleges is the responsibility of the local education authorities. Although much useful assistance and co-operation can be given by the teachers, helping leavers to find employment is properly the function of the Youth Employment Service rather than of schools and colleges.

Lending Libraries (Authors' Royalties)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he will introduce legislation to provide a public lending royalty for authors' books in libraries.

I had discussions with the Arts Council in the summer about the report they submitted to me in May. I have just received an amended report from the Council which I am now studying.

Copyright Act, 1911

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will take steps to ensure that authors are paid for the copies of their books that they have to provide under Section 15 of the Copyright Act, 1911.

No. No case has been made out to me for altering the provisions of Section 15 of the Copyright Act, 1911.

Works Of Art (Exports)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will revise the rules governing exports of works of art, in view of the criticisms in the latest report of the trustees of the National Gallery, a copy of which has been sent to him.

I have studied carc-fully the recent report of the trustees of the National Gallery. For the reasons given in my Answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Alan Lee Williams) on 1st August, 1966 the Government is not able to agree to the proposed establishment of the Fund of £1 million for the purchase of major works of art nor do they accept as valid the criticisms arising from a comparison of the British and American systems of tax practice in this field. I regard the existing rules as preserving a fair balance in this difficult matter. A memorandum of guidance has recently been issued to the expert advisers which will, I hope, improve the working of the system in practice. This was done on the recommendation of the Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art.—[Vol. 733, c. 42–7.]

Maleic Hydrazide

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what inquiries he is making into the carcinogenic effect of maleic hydrazide when sprayed on tobacco leaf; and if he will make a statement.

Some years ago a series of investigations was carried out by Medical Research Council staff and associated workers from which it was concluded that maleic hydrazide was not carcinogenic. The Council are aware that this finding has recently been questioned and the matter will be followed up as necessary.

Public Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to receive the report on the integration of the public schools within the State system of education.

I refer my hon. Friend to my answer on 23rd October, to my hon. Friend the Member for Totten-ham (Mr. Atkinson).—[Vol. 751, c. 387–8.]

Middle East

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what steps he has taken during the recess to bring about an Israeli-Arab settlement in the Middle East.

Her Majesty's Government have kept in close and constant touch with the Governments in the Middle East and with the many other Governments closely interested in the achievement of a settlement in the area. At the United Nations we have continued to urge the need for an early meeting of the Security Council to adopt a balanced resolution providing for the appointment of a United Nations representative. My right hon. Friend also had personal consultations in New York with the Secretary-General, with representatives of many other nations and with President Johnson in Washington. Lord Caradon is doing everything he can to encourage the efforts now being made to arrive at a reasonable and generally acceptable draft for the balanced resolution, which it is now widely agreed would provide the best hope for progress towards a settlement.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the present position of Her Majesty's Government's policy towards Israeli-Arab relations.

Her Majesty's Government are continuing their efforts in the United Nations to arrange an early meeting of the Security Council with a view to the adoption of a balanced resolution which could provide guidance for the efforts of a United Nations representative in working with the parties concerned towards a reasonable and durable Middle East settlement. Provision for the appointment of such a representative should, in Her Majesty's Government's view, be an essential part of any resolution passed. The recent sinking of the Israel destroyer "Elat" and the subsequent shelling of Egyptian installations at Suez have underlined the dangers of letting matters rest as they are and Her Majesty's Government see no realistic possibility of progress towards a settlement except in the United Nations forum and through the use of Security Council machinery.

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the actions of the Egyptians in firing guided missiles at an Israeli ship, he will now break off the negotiations with Egypt in which he is at present engaged.

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the action of the Egyptian Navy in its attack on an Israeli ship, he will suspend his negotiations with Egypt.

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the breaches by Egypt of the cease-fire agreement, and in particular the sinking by her of an Israeli ship, he will discontinue the present negotiations with Egypt.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if, in view of the sinking of the Israeli destroyer, "Eilat" by the Egyptian navy in breach of the cease fire agreement, the continued closure of the Suez Canal and the holding of British ships, the refusal by Egypt to recognise Israel and the present state of re-equipment of Egyptian forces aided by Russia, he will give an assurance that it is now the policy of Her Majesty's Government to grant recognition to the territorial gains of Israel, and that any negotiations with Egypt can only be continued if Israel is recognised, its security upheld and the Suez Canal opened.

Gibraltar

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs why an assurance given on behalf of the Foreign Office and the Commonwealth Office to the Gibraltar Minister for Public Relations last year in Gibraltar, was broken last week when a statement concerning renewed talks with Spain was given several hours earlier to the Spanish service of the British Broadcasting Corporation; on whose instructions this was done; and whether he will give details of the protest made by the Gibraltar Government.

My right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary received the Spanish Ambassador on the morning of 20th October and made proposals to him for further talks with Spain. A Foreign Office spokesman later made a statement to the Press and the Spanish News Service of the B.B.C. carried this item in their newscast at 2.15 p.m. The text of the Foreign Office statement had previously been telegraphed to the Governor of Gibraltar. No protest has been made by the Gibraltar Government.

Vietnam

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to what extent it remains Government policy that all points of view on Vietnam should be heard.

We are happy that all views should be heard which will genuinely contribute towards peace in Vietnam.

Non-Proliferation Treaty

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what further proposals Her Majesty's Government have regarding nuclear non-proliferation.

The Co-Chairmen of the Eighteen Nation Disarmament Committee in Geneva, the United States and the Soviet Union, tabled agreed texts of a non-proliferation treaty on 24th August. We played our part in helping to achieve this, and are continuing to do so in the current negotiations.

International Centre For Advanced Mediterranean Agronomic Studies

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will now arrange to establish regular bursaries to the Institute of Higher Mediterranean Agriculture at Montpellier and Bari to be open to all Commonwealth countries.

The courses at the International Centre for Advanced Mediterranean Agronomic Studies are primarily designed for students from countries with Mediterranean climates and these have already included Cyprus and Malta. I understand that other Commonwealth countries would be entitled to propose candidates for scholarships.

Greece

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what action Her Majesty's Government is taking at the Council of Europe about the abrogation of democracy in Greece.

The Greek situation is already under consideration by the European Commission of Human Rights which has invited the Greek Government to submit written observations before 15th November and will subsequently hold a hearing to determine the admissibility of the Applications made under Article 24 of the European Convention on Human Rights. No action is called for at present by Her Majesty's Government.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will take steps to publish the English version of the Opinion of the European Economic Community Commission on the Application for membership by the United Kingdom and other countries.

The European Commission have already issued an English translation of their Opinion, copies of which are in the Library. The Commission's printed version is expected to be on sale generally by the end of November.

Passports

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how many new passports were issued during each year from 1960 to 1966; and how many have been issued so far this year.

The annual issues in the United Kingdom of five-year passports since 1st January, 1960, and of British Visitor's passports since their introduction on 16th March, 1961, are as follows:—

Ordinary PassportsBritish Visitor's Passports
1960783,299
1961563,159298,679
1962603,935356,130
1963688,286457,978
1964723,822527,261
1965816,806611,758
1966980,799712,974
1967 (to 20th Oct.)953,964697,536

Local Government

Sikh Employees (Turbans)

54.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what assurances he has obtained from local authorities that their Sikh employees will be permitted to wear turbans on duty in accordance with their religion; and whether he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend would in general deprecate any rules which could be held to discriminate against any group of employees, but rules governing the dress to be worn by staff on duty are best left to the good sense of individual local authorities. If however the hon. Member has any cases of difficulty in mind I will gladly have inquiries made.

Rate Rebate Scheme

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps his Department is taking to bring to the notice of low income ratepayers the provisions for rebates now available.

Publicity has already been given to the rate rebate scheme by Press advertising and eleven million leaflets were distributed earlier this year through Post Offices to people drawing pensions and allowances; there have also been radio and television features. A press notice about the progress of the scheme issued by the Department last week has received widespread publicity and a fresh series of advertisements will be appearing in the next few days. Rent officers, local officers of the Ministry of Social Security and members of voluntary organisations are helping by drawing attention to the scheme in suitable cases.In addition local authorities have made their own arrangements for bringing rate rebates to the attention of their citizens and I hope that they will do more, particularly in areas where the response has so far been poor.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what proportion of domestic ratepayers in the borough of Hastings received rebates in 1966–67.

About 12 per cent., as against about 6¼ per cent. in the rest of England and Wales.

Direct Labour Building Departments

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) how many extraordinary district audits he has commissioned or approved into local authority direct labour building departments in each of the years 1965 and 1966; what is the equivalent figure for 1967; and whether he will list the local authorities concerned;(2) in how many of the special audits which he has commissioned or approved since 1965 in local authority direct labour building departments the district auditor has now reported to him; and in how many cases he still awaits an interim or final report.

No extraordinary audits of the account of local authority building departments were authorised in 1965 or 1966. During 1967 such audits were authorised in respect of Camden London Borough and Southwark London Borough.The district auditor makes his report to the local authority and not to my right hon. Friend. I understand that an interim report has already been made to the Camden Borough Council and that one will be made to the Southwark Borough Council very shortly. Final reports are not expected for some time.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will state the action he has taken in the light of extraordinary reports of district auditors into local authority direct labour building departments, giving the information for each local authority separately.

My right hon. Friend has received only an interim report dated 24th August and relating to the direct labour department of the London Borough of Camden. The Council are already taking action on the lines suggested by the District Auditor and I am keeping in touch with the situation.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many surveys by the National Building Agency have been commissioned by local authorities into their direct labour building departments since 1965; by which local authorities; and in how many cases he advised the local authority concerned to consult the National Building Agency.

Since 1st January, 1965, 19 authorities, on their own initiative, have sought the advice of the Agency in matters involving their direct labour organisations. Of these the following eight specifically consulted the Agency about the organisation and management of their direct labour organisation either in connection with new building or with maintenance:

  • Basildon U.D.C.
  • Camden L.B.C.
  • Felling U.D.C.
  • Greenwich L.B.C.
  • Manchester C.B.C.
  • Salford C.B.C.
  • Wandsworth L.B.C.
  • Wigan C.B.C.
In addition, with the agreement of the London Borough of Southwark, my right hon. Friend sought advice from the Agency on whether a particular scheme should be carried out by the Borough's direct labour organisation.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he has taken in the light of each report of the National Building Agency on the efficiency of a local authority direct labour building department since 1965.

These reports were commissioned by the councils concerned who have taken or are taking appropriate action. The Salford Council consulted my right hon. Friend about the Agency's report and about other reports they had commissioned on their direct labour building department, and accepted his suggestion that they should for a time reduce the amount of new construction work undertaken by the department.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what discussions he has had with representatives of local authorities regarding the audit of direct labour building departments; and whether he will make a statement on those discussions.

There have been no discussions on the audit of building departments, but discussions are still in progress on the study carried out by the District Auditors' Society of financial control in such departments.

Planning Appeals

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the percentage of planning appeals which he has dismissed in cases where his inspector had recommended that the appeals should be allowed during the most recent 12-month period for which figures are available, and the percentages for comparable periods three years, and six years previously.

I regret that the precise information asked for is readily available only for the 11-month period November, 1966 to September, 1967. During this time dismissals of appeals which Inspectors had recommended allowing amounted to 2·9 per cent. of appeals dismissed after local inquiries.The following more general figures give comparisons over two intervals of three years.

196019631966
Number of appeals decided after local inquiry4,4515,1474,557
Number of appeals where the decision was contrary to Inspector's recommendation228*8797
Percentage of decisions contrary to Inspector's recommendation1·72·1
* Part year only.

Housing

Local Authority Houses (Direct Sale)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will set out in tabular form the amount of loan sanction given to local authorities in England and Wales in the years 1960 to 1966, inclusive, for the building of houses for direct sale; and how much loan sanction will be given for that purpose in 1967.

Separate loan sanction figures are not available, because such houses frequently form part of a larger contract for a local authority housing scheme which is the subject of a single loan sanction.

LOCAL AUTHORITY DWELLINGS BUILT FOR SALE AND SOLD: ENGLAND AND WALES
Local Authorities which sold more than 20 dwellings in the years shown:
Number of dwellings
19601961196219631964196519661967 to 30th September
Northern Region
Hartlepool C.B.44
Sunderland C.B.46
Hebburn U.D.5340
Hexham U.D.33
Yorkshire and Humberside Region
Normanton U.D.38
Rawmarsh U.D.85
Rothwell U.D.22
Sowerby Bridge U.D.2336
Stocksbridge U.D.2838
Swinton U.D.38
Rotherham R.D.3646
North West Region
Chester C.B.24422831
Wigan C.B.4482100
Crosby B.22
Hyde B.1455329
Stalybridge B.2533
Widnes B.23
Nantwich U.D.7295
East Midland Region
Stamford B.26
Worksop B.622844
Alfreton U.D.49
Corby U.D.24
Chesterfield R.D.40
West Midland Region
Birmingham C.B.5639403
Coventry C.B.11024
Dudley C.B.292635
Stoke-on-Trent C.B.56
Walsall C.B.4757
Bridgnorth B.21
Hereford B.63
Shrewsbury B.505145
Tamworth B.39
Aldridge-Brownhills U.D.8322
Bedworth U.D.26
Oakengates U.D.2240
Redditch U.D.21
Market Drayton R.D.24
Rugby R.D.34

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will list the local authorities in England and Wales who built more than 20 houses for direct sale in each of the years 1960 to 1966, inclusive, showing separately for each year the number of houses built by each local authority; and whether he will give similar figures for the first nine months of 1967.

The local authorities which built for sale and sold more than 20 dwellings in each year in the years 1960 to 1966, inclusive, and in the first nine months of 1967, are listed below, together with the details of the number of dwellings.

1960

1961

1962

1963

1964

1965

1966

1967 to 30th September

South West Region
Exeter C.B.46
Bodmin B.36
Cheltenham B.51
Honiton B.22
Salisbury B.21
Swindon B.3419214838
Portland U.D.58
Sidmouth U.D.70
Highworth R.D.57
East Anglia
Kings Lynn B.6131
Peterborough B.22
Halesworth U.D.38
South East Region (Beds.-Essex-Herts.)
Bedford B.26262324
Hertford B.35
Luton B.32
Watford B.69
Baldock U.D.51
Hitchin U.D.31
Witham U.D.65
St. Albans R.D.62
(Greater London)
Bexley L.B.49
Hiilingdon L.B.3673
Kensington and Chelsea L.B.154
Redbridge L.B.111
Waltham Forest L.B.40
(South Eastern Counties)
Brighton C.B.253755
Chatham B.2533
Dartford B.809132
Godalming B.37
Guildford B.434772
Maidstone B.83
Ashford U.D.50
Cuckfield U.D.2727
Esher U.D.28
Staines U.D.43
Sunbury on Thames U.D.35
Tonbridge U.D.30
Cranbrook R.D.45
Cuckfield R.D.24
Godstone R.D.283735
(Southern Counties)
Oxford C.B.40
Reading C.B.392761
Basingstoke B.86
Gosport B.343123
New Windsor B.9122
Slough B.3038
Wokingham B.2340
Abingdon R.D.30523824
Bullingdon R.D.47
Eton R.D.282659
Newbury R.D.2128
Wales
Flint B.21
Chepstow R.D.32
Total for the above authorities8001,0171,221749793898595969

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many houses he anticipates will be completed by local authorities in England and Wales for direct sale in 1967.

It is estimated that the number of such houses sold by local authorities in England and Wales this year will be about the same as in 1962, when 1,576 new houses were sold.

Council House Rents

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what advice has been issued to local authorities regarding rent policies.

The White Paper on Prices and Incomes Policy after 30th June, 1967 (Cmnd. 3235), stated that "It is not possible to apply directly the criteria for increases in prices or incomes to rents, but the principle of moderation should apply here also". It also stated, with regard to local authority rents, that "The Government recognise that many local authorities will need to review the level of their rents and some increases are likely to prove unavoidable. It is of great importance that where rent increases do prove unavoidable, local authorities should make the fullest use of rent rebates to protect tenants of modest means". My right hon. Friend issued further advice to local authorities on rent rebate schemes in Circular No. 46/67 and I am sending my hon. Friend a copy.

Marine Broadcasting (Offences) Act (Prosecutions)

55.

asked the Attorney-General how many prosecutions have been initiated under the Marine Broadcasting (Offences) Act.

Magazine (Prosecution)

56.

asked the Attorney-General when proceedings will be taken against the proprietors of the magazine sent to him by the hon. Member for Totnes in June.

After considering the report of police investigations, the Director of Public Prosecutions decided that a prosecution would not be justified. I understand that the magazine has ceased publication.

Ministry Of Labour

Low Paid Workers

57.

asked the Minister of Labour what consultations have recently taken place with both sides of industry over full-time workers earning under £15 a week basic.

I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member on 23rd October, 1967.—[Vol. 751, c. 361.]

Draughtsmen's And Allied Technicians' Association (Pay Claims)

asked the Minister of Labour how many wage claims have been submitted by the Draughtsmen's and Allied Technicians' Association since 31st July; how many have satisfied the Wages Vetting Committee of the Trades Union Congress; how many are consistent with the Government's Prices and Incomes Policy; and if he will make a statement.

Since 31st July my Department has been notified of 91 cases involving claims which have been presented by the Draughtsmen' and Allied Technicians' Association (DATA). The advice given has been that, pending the forthcoming report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes, settlements should not exceed the terms of the offer made by the Engineering Employers' Federation to DATA in national negotiations, subject in appropriate cases, to a consideration against the productivity criterion.I cannot answer for the T.U.C. Vetting Committee.

Journalists (Salary Increase)

asked the Minister of Labour what is the percentage estimated increase in hourly earnings and rates arising from the recent salary settlement of Fleet Street journalists; in what way was the settlement related to the claims of lower paid workers or of increased productivity; what representations were received from the Trades Union Congress Vetting Committee on his claim; and if he will make a statement.

The settlement raised the agreed minimum rates for qualified journalists in national newspapers fixed in April, 1964. In London the minimum rate was raised from £26 10s. a week to £30 a week, an increase of 13 per cent. and in Manchester, from £25 10s. to £29 a week, an increase of 14 per cent. In response to the Government's Prices and Incomes Policy, the parties agreed that a salary increase should not be given to all journalists but limited to (1) those who were currently earning less than the new minimum rates—estimated as 400 out of 3,200 employed—whose weekly earnings would be brought up to that level and (2) a relatively few individuals who had not had an increase since April, 1964, whose salaries would be reviewed. The settlement was not related to the claims of low paid workers or to increased productivity. On the assurance of the parties that the increases would be limited to a small minority of journalists, they were informed that no action would be taken to prevent the settlement from taking effect from 1st July, 1967. My Ministry received no representations from the T.U.C. Vetting Committee.

National Finance

Government Organisation (Industrial Expertise)

58.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action Her Majesty's Government is taking to make use of industrial expertise in the organisation of Government.

The use, where appropriate, of management techniques developed in industry, the recruitment of staff with industrial experience and the widespread use of management consultants.

Hansard (Price)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the price of Hansard.

For many years the selling price of HANSARD has been much less than cost and its present price has remained unchanged since 1962. Since then the number of pages has increased on average by about 13 per cent. and the production costs have risen as well.For these reasons the loss on sale copies of the various editions has increased from £65,000 a year in 1962 to about £120,000 a year now.We have therefore reluctantly decided that the price of the Daily Edition will be raised from 1s. 6d. to 2s. 3d. and that of the Weekly Edition from 4s. 6d. to 7s. with corresponding increases in the prices of indexes, Standing Committee Debates and subscription rates.It is estimated that these increases, which will operate from the beginning of the new Session, will reduce the losses by about £20,000 a year.

Balance Of Payments

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the saving to the balance of payments during the 12 months ending in June 1967 as a result of the fall in import prices as compared with the 12 months ended June 1964.

The unit value index of imports rose by about 2¾ per cent. between the two periods. In very rough terms that is equivalent to a gross addition of £150 million to our import bill. No precise estimate is possible of the net effect on the balance of payments since our exports tend to do better when primary producers' earnings increase.

Selective Employment Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the effect of the Selective Employment Tax on employment levels in the development areas and what statistics are available in this regard; what consideration he is giving to easing the incidence of the tax on the distributive trades in these areas; and if he will make a statement.

There are no statistics distinguishing the effects of the Selective Employment Tax from other influences on employment in the Development Areas. The distributive trades will benefit from the increased economic activity which the Government's regional policies aim to achieve.

Income Tax And Surtax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware of the increasing number of creative artistes who leave this country to avoid the unfortunate consequences of losing through Income Tax and Surtax 95 per cent. of their earnings in any particular year in which their creative work may briefly prove to be highly remunerative; and whether he will urgently review the question of Income Tax and Surtax in relation to the earnings of such persons.

This is a complicated subject to which Governments in the past have devoted a good deal of attention. I have noted the hon. and gallant Gentleman's views.

Travelling Expenses

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why payments to evening school teachers and part-time instructors in respect of travelling expenses, formerly disregarded for Income Tax purposes, are now required to be treated as pay for tax deduction purposes.

Payments for the cost of travelling to one's place of work, being on account of personal expenditure, are taxable remuneration; and the change referred to brings the practice generally in conformity with the law.

Industry (Financial Assistance)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will detail the main components accounting for the £133 million financial assistance provided to industry in the first six months of 1967.

The main components of this total are:

£ million
Additional element in Selective Employment Premiums75
Investment Grants32
Capital grants and net lending under the Local Employment Acts18
Other8
133

Ministry Of Defence

East Of Suez

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, in view of the fact that it is now the policy of the Government of Malaya to make friends with China rather than be defended by the West, he will accelerate British withdrawal East of Suez.

I am not aware of the alleged fact. The question does not therefore arise.

Vietnam

asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent assistance has been given by frogmen of the Royal Navy's combined operations to the United States forces in Vietnam; and if he will give an assurance that instructions will be given that no British forces will be used, or training operations undertaken in the Vietnam war zone, which might be construed as direct or indirect military assistance to the United States forces.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many British Servicemen operating from Hong Kong are assisting the United States Navy in Vietnamese waters by blowing up sunken ships.

Board Of Trade

British Aluminium Company

60.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has recommended Tyneside to the British Aluminium Company for the establishment of new factories.

The company was in touch with the Board of Trade last year about possible sites for an aluminium fabricating plant, and more recently we have been in touch with it and others about a new smelter. The company is aware of the facilities available on Tyneside.

Associated Electrical Industries (Merger)

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will make a statement on the proposed take-over of Associated Electrical Industries by the General Electric Company;(2) why he has decided not to refer the proposed take-over of Associated Electrical Industries by the General Electric Company to the Monopolies Commission.

As my right hon. Friend made clear in his public statement on 20th October, the Board of Trade considered this proposed merger in the light of their responsibilities under the Monopolies and Mergers Act, 1965. They concluded on the evidence available to them that the merger did not raise such questions of potential detriment to the public interest as would justify an investigation by the Monopolies Commission.On one particular aspect of the proposal, concerning the supply of electric lamps, my right hon. Friend sought and obtained suitable assurances from G.E.C. to protect the public interest against any possible detriment.

Regional Economic Planning Council (Recommendations)

asked the President of the Board of Trade when he will announce his decision on the recommendation of the Regional Economic Planning Council that Plymouth should be designated a development area.

This and other recommendations by the Planning

Name of companyDatePresent proportion of equity owned in U.S. Per cent.Net assets in U.S. ownershipmillion)
Ford31st December, 1966100179·6
Vauxhall31st December, 196610082·0
Rootes31st July, 196667*40·5*
* Estimated.

Aluminium Smelting Mills

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he has decided on the location of the two aluminium smelting mills whose construction is planned by the Government; and if he will make a statement.

No. I am awaiting proposals from the aluminium companies, which will need to be carefully evaluated. The Government have made it clear to the companies that they wish any new smelters to be built in Development Areas.

Advance Factories

asked the President of the Board of Trade when the first factory at Cleator Moor will be opened; and how many men will be employed.

Council in their recently published study are receiving careful consideration. I cannot say when my colleagues and I will be in a position to give a considered reply.

United Nations Conference On Trade And Development

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will consider inviting an all-party delegation of Members of Parliament to the forthcoming United Nations Conference on Trade and Development.

British Motor Industry (United States Holdings)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will list details of the extent of current United States holdings in the British motor car industry.

The values of the net assets of British motor car companies attributable to United States parent companies, derived from the most recent balance sheets are as follows:

The 25,000 sq. ft. factory at Cleator Moor has been let and is being adapted to meet the tenant's requirements. It is hoped that production in the factory will start early in 1968.I am unable to disclose details of the employment to be provided by an individual firm.

asked the President of the Board of Trade when the new factory at Cleator will be occupied, and by whom.

I am unable to say when the 10,000 sq. ft. advance factory at Cleator Moor will be opened. It has been shown to a number of industrialists but so far there have been no applications for a tenancy. We will continue to make every effort to find a suitable occupant for the factory.

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many advance factories have been built to the present date; how many are under construction; how many are unoccupied; how many pre-

ADVANCE FACTORIES: 1959–67
Number
Country and RegionApprovedCompletedUnder constructionCompleted and UnallocatedPreviously occupied and now vacant
England
Northern4935681
N. Western103
S. Western9511
Scotland674319112
Wales3816136
Totals17310239263

Ministers (Outside Bodies)

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will make it a rule that all Ministers should refuse offers of financial support for political purposes by outside bodies.

The well-established principle in these matters is that Ministers should so order their affairs that no conflict arises, or appears to arise, between their private interests and their public duties.

Vietnam

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister what further consultations he has had with President Johnson over the Vietnam war.

I am in close touch with President Johnson on a wide range of subjects, including Vietnam, but our exchanges are, of course, confidential.

Department Of Economic Affairs

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the future relationship between his office and the Department of Economic Affairs; and what were the reasons for the recent change in organisation.

viously occupied have since been vacated; if he will analyse this information by regions; and if he will make a statement.

Advance factory programmes were re-started in 1959. The information is as follows:—

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on the progress achieved in improving relations between the Government and industry since the recent change in the relationships between his office and the Department of Economic Affairs.

As the House will be aware, the Government changes made in August involved some reorganisation at the Department of Economic Affairs, including the appointment of my right hon. Friend as Secretary of State and my own decision to be concerned directly in the work of the Department. Among other things this includes my taking the Chair of the National Economic Development Council and the institution of more regular consultations, together with my right hon. Friend, with both sides of industry. At the same time certain work of the Department of Economic Affairs, particularly its responsibility in the field of overseas economic policy, and relations with industry in preparation for Britain's entry to the European Economic Community, has been transferred to the Board of Trade.

European Economic Community

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister what recent contacts there have been between the British and French Governments concerning Great Britain's application for membership of the European Economic Community; and if he will make a statement.

The most recent have been the meeting between my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary and the French Foreign Minister earlier this month, and as the House will be aware, the discussion between President de Gaulle and Her Majesty's Ambassador on 5th October. But, of course, we are in frequent touch with the French Government in a wide variety of ways on a wide variety of issues.

asked the Prime Minister what comments have been made by the European Economic Community Commission on Great Britain's application for membership of the European Economic Community; to what extent Her Majesty's Government estimate that these comments represent the views of the Commission as a whole; and if he will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government as a result of these comments.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Statement made earlier today by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.

Unused National Resources

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of current misunderstandings, he will restate Her Majesty's Government's policy on the desirability or necessity of maintaining a permanent pool of unused national resources as an instrument essential for economic growth without inflation.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Statement made to this House by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer when introducing his Budget last April, and to my speech at Scarborough on 4th October, a copy of which is in the Library.Estimates of future levels of unemployment must of course depend. so far as the winter is concerned, on the weather on the days when the count is taken and, for later periods of 1968, on, among other things, the growth of world trade and the success of our exporters in seizing opportunities available to them. My hon. Friend will, however, have noted the change in the trend of the seasonally adjusted unemployment figures in recent months.

Anglo-American Relations

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement about the United Kingdom's special relationship with the United States of America.

My hon. Friend will have seen the speech of my noble Friend Lord Chalfont on 9th October, which substantially restated our relationship with the United States in terms similar to those I used in a speech at the National Press Club in Washington in April, 1963. I shall be happy to send my hon. Friend a copy of both speeches.

Minister Of Labour (Speech)

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister whether the speech of the Minister of Labour at Gillingham on 18th October about industrial disorder represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

Security Services (Book)

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister what proceedings he proposes to take in regard to the forthcoming serialisation of a book entitled The Espionage Establishment which purports to disclose details of the organisation of the British Intelligence Service.

It has always been accepted that it is detrimental to the efficiency of our security services, and therefore contrary to the national interest, to give publicity to the personalities and organisation of those services; and, although it has long been recognised that the British Press may decide to reproduce what has already been published abroad, with attribution to source, they have always been asked—and I take this opportunity to re-emphasise this request—not to elaborate on such material without consulting the Secretary of the Services Press and Broadcasting Committee.

Selective Employment Tax

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister when he will reply to the letter from the hon. Member for West Ham, North, sent on 2nd November, 1966 and formally acknowledged on 3rd November, and the subsequent telephone call on 9th November dealing with the question of the Selective Employment Tax and its effect upon an industrial organisation in West Ham, North.

Unemployment

asked the Prime Minister if he will state the approximate number of unemployed the Government aims, or is likely, to establish in February, July and December of next year and in July, 1968.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave earlier today to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton).

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Meat And Livestock Commission (Welsh Representation)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why only one Welsh representative has been appointed to the Distribution Committee of the Meat and Livestock Commission when there are 17 members from England and six from Scotland; and whether he will increase the Welsh representation.

Under the Agriculture Act, 1967, Ministers are required to appoint persons capable of representing every class of interest listed there, and to do so after consultation with the organisations concerned. However, in order that this representation should be effective, it was necessary to reflect the main differences in wholesaling, retailing and other trade practices. At the same time the Committee had to be of workable size. In many cases, therefore, a single member must represent a type of interest for the whole of Great Britain or for England and Wales together, and I am satisfied that the members we have appointed will be fully capable of representing interests in Wales. I therefore see no reason to add to the membership.

Agricultural Subsidies (European Economic Community)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the savings in agricultural subsidies which would result from the United Kingdom's acceptance of the European Economic Community's common agricultural policy.

Acceptance of the E.E.C.'s system would certainly involve the phasing out over a transitional period of our existing agricultural guarantees and deficiency payments; but the Community have not yet settled their criteria for allowing other forms of State aids to agriculture. It is not possible at this stage to give an estimate of the kind requested without making assumptions about the compatibility with the Common Market of the various farming grants and subsidies now payable.

Commonwealth Affairs

British Virgin Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on his recent discussions on the question of the British Virgin Islands; what offer was made to assist the economy of the Islands; and what were the terms of any agreement reached.

The Chief Minister of the Virgin Islands had talks in the Commonwealth Office and the Ministry of Overseas Development on the territory's recurrent and capital budgets for 1968. The various proposals which emerged from those discussions are now being urgently examined.

Economic Affairs

Regional Employment Premium

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what estimate he has made of the effect on employment levels in the development areas of excluding the distributive trades from the Regional Employment Premium and what statistics are available in this regard; what consideration he is giving to extending payment of the premium to the distributive trades in these areas; and if he will make a statement.

A subsidy on employment in the distributive trades would be much less effective than a subsidy to manufacturing industries in improving the relative economic position of the development areas. Moreover, it would be much more likely to require a compensating increase in taxation. The Government do not therefore propose to extend the Regional Employment Premium to the distributive trades.

Northern Region (Government Assistance)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs when details of the new Government policy dealing with the urgent industrial and social needs of the North-East area will be presented.

The Government already have a policy for providing very substantial assistance to stimulate redevelopment and economic growth in the Northern Region. Ways of reinforcing these measures are being considered and the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster is in the area at the moment studying the problems on the spot.

Industrial Reorganisation Corporation (Aei Merger)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether the Industrial Reorganisation Corporation was involved in discussions with the General Electric Company about its proposed take-over of Associated Electrical Industries.

Yes. I understand that the Corporation had discussions about the possibilities for reorganisation with all firms in the heavy electrical plant industry, including General Electric Company and Associated Electrical Industries.

Hospitals

Lindley Hospital (Hydrotherapy Unit)

asked the Minister of Health when he expects the hydrotherapy unit at the new hospital at Lindley, Huddersfield, to become operative; and what are the reasons for the delay.

By about the end of March, 1968. The delay is a consequence of a decision to install a continuous filtration plant as a safeguard against cross-infection.

House Of Commons (Caterlng Staff)

asked the Lord President of the Council (1) whether the new rule that any member of the catering staff who accepts and retains a tip automatically terminates by that act his or her contract of employment, has been agreed with the union of the employees concerned;(2) under what authority it has been settled that any member of the staff who accepts and retains a tip automatically terminates by that act his contract of employment.

I have been asked to reply.The Services Committee have resolved that tipping should be abolished. This decision has been agreed with the trade union representing the employees of the Refreshment Department. The clause in the contract of employment stating that the acceptance of a tip automatically terminates the contract is a corollary of this. As a result of suggestions made by senior staff, the management have agreed that staff may receive tips for transfer to the staff gratuities fund. This also is a consequence of the Committee's agreement that tipping should be abolished in the House.

asked the Lord President of the Council what right of appeal exists, and to whom is such appeal made, by a member of the catering staff of the House of Commons who has his or her contract of service terminated by the act of accepting and retaining a tip from a Member of Parliament.

I have been asked to reply.Any member of the Refreshment Department may bring such staff matters to the attention of the Manager in the first instance, and a further appeal lies to the Catering Sub-Committee if the need arises.

Overseas Development

Overseas Aid

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what information he has from international sources as to the annual amount of public overseas aid, expressed per capita of the donor population, given by the United Kingdom, United States of America, France, Netherlands and Belgium.

Following is the information:

ESTIMATES OF GROSS OFFICIAL AID FLOWS PER CAPITA OF DONOR POPULATION OF SELECTED WESTERN DONOR COUNTRIES
Shillings
196419651966
United Kingdom727276
United States of America142144145
France130119115
Netherlands294255
Belgium628569

Sources:

Mid-year Population: U.N. "Demographic Year Book" and U.N. "Monthly Bulletin of Statistics".

Economic Aid Flows: O.E.C.D. "Development Assistance Efforts and Policies—1967 Review".

Ministry Of Power

North Sea Drilling Rigs (Safety Measures)

asked the Minister of Power what steps he is taking to establish any safety measures for oil-rig operations, in addition to the present safety code for marine operations, arising from experiences in recent years of drilling in the North Sea and the inquiry into the "Sea Gem" disaster.

As stated in my reply to my hon. Friend's Question about the "Sea Gem" inquiry on 24th October, safety precautions in offshore drilling operations in the North Sea receive constant attention from my Petroleum Exploration and Production Inspectors, who regularly visit all platforms and are in close touch with the operators. The extent to which, in advance of legislation, current practice and procedure require to be modified in the interest of safety is to be discussed with the operators in the light of experience and of the "Sea Gem" report.—[Vol. 751, c. 416.]

National Fuel And Power Policy (White Paper)

asked the Minister of Power when he expects to present the Government paper on a national fuel and power policy; and whether he will make a statement.

Public Building And Works

11–12, St James's Square (Acquisition)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works for what purpose he has recently acquired property in St. James's Square; and what is the cost to public funds.

The property, 11–12, St. James's Square, has been acquired to relieve overcrowding and accommodate additional staff in the Ministry of Labour, whose headquarters are at 7–8, St. James's Square.It is not my policy to publish details of rents paid for Government offices.

Hyde Park Corner (Plaque)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he will consider erecting a plaque at Speakers Corner to commemorate the centenary of the right to hold meetings there.

Although freedom of public speaking at Hyde Park Corner is a traditional privilege of long standing I am advised that the right to hold meetings there was first enshrined in the Parks Regulation Act of 1872. If the suggestion of a commemorative plaque receives general support, I will arrange for the matter to be considered nearer the centenary year.

Scotland

Grant-Aided Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied that the special features of the Scottish grant-aided schools will be taken into account in the study which the Public Schools Commission is to make of the principle of Government grants to these schools; which Scottish schools are affected; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. I have agreed with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science that an additional member from Scotland should be appointed to the Public Schools Commission. In addition, I propose to nominate a Scottish sub-committee of five or six, including the Scottish members of the Commission, who will be responsible to the Commission for framing recommendations on the Scottish grant-aided schools. The Scottish schools affected, by education authority area, are as follows:

Aberdeen: Albyn School for Girls; Convent of the Sacred Heart Secondary School; Robert Gordon's College; St. Margaret's School for Girls.
Dundee: High School.
Edinburgh: Daniel Stewart's College; The Mary Erskine School for Girls; George Watson's College; George Watson's Ladies' College; George Heriot's School; John Watson's School; Melville College; St. Mary's Cathedral Choir School.
Glasgow: Craigholme School; Hutchesons' Boys' Grammar School; Hutchesons' Girls' Grammar School; Kelvinside Academy; Laurel Bank School; St. Aloysius' College; West-bourne School for Girls; The Park School, Glasgow.
Ayrshire: Marr College.
Clackmannanshire: Dollar Academy.
Dumfriesshire: Maxwelltown Benedictine Convent School; St. Joseph's College.
Dunbarton: St. Bride's School, Helensburgh.
Perth and Kinross: Morrison's Academy, Crieff; Morrison's Academy for Girls.
Renfrewshire: St. Coiumba's School, Kilmacolm.

Rate Rebates

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the number and value of rate rebates granted by each local authority in Scotland up to 16th May, 1967; and what proportion of the ratepayers estimated to be entitled to rate rebates in that period applied for them.

For Scotland as a whole I estimate from the returns so far received that in the two half-yearly rebate periods before 15th May, 1967 about 215,000 rebates were granted, amounting to some £1·7 million. I will send my hon. Friend the figures so far supplied by individual rating authorities, and will write to him about the latter part of his Question.

Road Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people in each of the past 10 years have been victims of hit and run road accidents.

I regret that this information is not available. Separate statistics are not kept for hit and run offences in Scotland.

Transport

Blood Alcohol (Ingestion Of Milk)

asked the Minister of Transport what further consideration her Department is giving to the effect of ingestion of milk on concentrations of blood alcohol, what assessment she has made of the findings of the research on this subject published by Professor John Yudkin and others for the Department of Nutrition, Queen Elizabeth College, University of London, a copy of which has been sent to her, and if she will make a statement.

This research confirms that the rate of absorption of alcohol into the bloodstream is slowed down if food, particularly fatty food, is taken before or with the alcohol. This is why it is particularly important never to drive after drinking on an empty stomach.

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Loads)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will strengthen the safety regulations concerning the securing of loads on lorries, particularly concerning the size of ropes and the type of lorry bed fastenings to carry circular loads.

No. We consider that the general terms of Regulation 75 of the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1966 adequately cover all aspects of the safe loading of road vehicles.

Driving On The Right

asked the Minister of Transport what preparations she has made to change over to driving on the right.

None. No decision has been made to change over to driving on the right.

Concessionary Bus Fares

asked the Minister of Transport when she expects to make a statement concerning the extension of concessionary bus fares to other than municipal undertakings.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given on 12th July to my hon. Friend the Member for Meriden (Mr. Rowland).—[Vol. 750, c. 804–5.]

Roads

Preston By-Pass (Link With M6)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she will now announce the date for inclusion in the motorways programme of the Preston northerly bypass link with the M6 motorway.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Blackpool, South (Mr. Blaker) yesterday.—[Vol. 751, c. 490.]

Accidents (Hit-And-Run Victims)

asked the Minister of Transport how many people in each of the past 10 years have been victims of hit and run road accidents.

asked the Minister of Transport how many claims have been submitted to the Motor Insurers' Bureau in each of the past 10 years on behalf of victims of hit-and-run accidents; how many of these claims resulted in compensation being paid; and what was the value of compensation paid each year.

The following is the information:

YearNumber of ApplicationsNumber of AwardsAmount Paid
£
195718610829,589
195822510957,019
195925314271,430
196028315890,932
196125016872,917
1962285167100,655
196324615897,813
1964337164100,657
1965614227142,934
1966560395210,638
NOTE: The number of awards during any one year do not necessarily relate to the number of applications actually received during that year.

Woodcock Corner, Cornwall (Letter)

asked the Minister of Transport what reply has been sent to Mr. R. W. Cullup of 7, Mill Dale Road, Kettering, to his letter concerning Woodcock Corner, near Truro in Cornwall.

As both my right hon. Friend and Mr. Cullup know, a full reply has been promised as soon as possible.

M11 (Draft Scheme Objections)

asked the Minister of Transport what are the arrangements for hearing objections to her draft scheme for the 34 miles of the M11 London to Cambridge between Chigwell to Stump Cross; and what stage has been reached in the delineation of the section proposed to run south of Chigwell.

Proposals by objectors for modifications to the draft scheme route are being considered and meanwhile the need for a Public Inquiry remains an open question.As regards an extension of the route southwards, I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Southgate (Mr. Berry) on 6th June.—[Vol. 747, c.

185.]

Social Security

Benefits (Transfer Of Records)

asked the Minister of Social Security what is the average time taken in transferring records from one area to another when people receiving State-aided benefits move to a new home.

It is not always necessary to transfer records, but when it is they can normally be obtained by return of post. If the hon. Member has any particular problem in mind I shall be glad to know.

Wales

Local Government Reorganisation

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give an assurance that in his Department's forthcoming programmes, priority will be given to the reduction of the high and long-term unemployment in Wales over any schemes for local government reorganisation.

There is no question of a choice between the two. Tackling the unemployment problem is a first priority for all the Welsh Departments concerned with economic planning, labour and trade. Strengthening the units of local government will in no way conflict with this.

Employment

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the approximate number of people domiciled in Wales who sought employment and made their homes outside Wales in each of the years 1960 to 1966.

I regret accurate information about these numbers is not available. The available figures based on a sample of the inter-regional movement of national insurance cards reflect in part the centralisation of personnel work in headquarters offices.

Industrial Development (Land)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps have been taken by the Welsh Office to encourage local authorities in mid-Wales to purchase land for industrial development.

Under the Local Authorities (Land) Act, 1963 local authorities have power to acquire by agreement land for industrial development. I consider sympathetically any application that they may make to me for loan sanction and have no reason to suppose that they need further encouragement from me in this direction.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what is the total amount of land owned by Welsh local authorities and held for further industrial development;(2) what is the amount of land held for future industrial development by the county councils of each of the five counties of mid-Wales.

I regret to say that this information is not available. However, I am at present, in co-operation with my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade, carrying out a survey throughout Wales to enable a record of industrial land to be compiled.

Mid-Wales Development Corporation (New Jobs)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what is the Welsh Office's estimate of the number of new jobs likely to be created by the proposed mid-Wales Development Corporation by 1970;(2) what is the Welsh Office's estimate of the total number of new jobs likely to be created by the proposed mid-Wales Development Corporation by 1975.

As I stated in the Welsh Grand Committee debate on 15th March this year, the first task of the Development Corporation will be to double the size of Newtown. This is expected to take about 7 years and to provide some 1,000 new factory jobs at a rate of up to 150 jobs a year.

A466 Road

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what action he proposes to take to impose conditions on the A466 Chepstow to Monmouth road, following the increase in traffic due to the opening of the Severn Bridge.

This is a principal road for which the Monmouthshire County Council is the authority responsible for traffic regulation.