Written Answers To Questions 286
Tuesday, 21st November, 1967
National Finance
Close Companies
32.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the assurance still stands which he gave on 3rd May, 1966, to the right hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton on the taxation of undistributed earnings of close companies.
I refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer which I gave to the right hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton (Mr. Turton) today.
United States Securities
38.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated value of the United States securities held by British subjects and institutions in this country.
Total U.K. direct investment (other than oil, insurance and banking) at the end of 1965 was about £390 million at book value. Portfolio investments held by institutional investors are estimated to be about £900 million. I regret that I am not able to give a figure for private portfolio investors.
39.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what sum of money was realised by the sale of the British Government's United States securities.
A total of about $1,375 million, which was reinvested in U.S. short-term securities.
Selective Employment Tax
36.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in how many cases he has exercised his power to relieve firms of their obligation to meet the Selective Employment Tax in view of their export trade.
Neither the Finance Act nor the Selective Employment Payments Act gives such discretionary powers.
44 and 45.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what estimate he has made of the percentage of labour costs in manufacturing industry which are being covered by the premium repayable on Selective Employment Tax;(2) what estimate he has made of the percentage of labour costs in manufacturing industry which are being covered by the Selective Employment Tax premium and the regional employment premium in the development areas.
On the latest available figures the additional element in the selective employment premium is roughly 1½ per cent. of labour costs in manufacturing. In development areas R.E.P. represents roughly a further 7½ per cent.
Public Expenditure
40.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what will be the results of limiting total Government spending to an annual increase of 3 per cent. from April, 1968 to 1971, in relation to specific expenditure on housing and environmental services.
62.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by what proportion he expects domestic public expenditure for 1968–69 to exceed that incurred in the current financial year.
75.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement on the progress of his exercise to bring long-term public expenditure into line with growth prospects up to 1970, as announced in his Budget Statement this year.
I refer the hon. Members to my statement yesterday, to which I have at present nothing to add.
Customs And Excise Officers (Scotland)
41.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he will complete his reorganisation of the duties of Customs and Excise officers who are employed in connection with distilling and brewing in Scotland; and how many staff are likely to have to move to new posts outside Scotland.
Probably by the end of January, 1968. About 200 officers are likely to move by then but no officer with a fixed post will be compelled to move out of Scotland for up to 2 years.
Computer Centre (Scotland)
42.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will site a second pay as you earn computer centre in Scotland, in the interests of regional development.
The locations for the Computer Centres still unsettled are under consideration.
Direct Investment (Australia)
43.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will now withdraw the restrictions on investment in Australia.
I shall keep this matter under review.
60.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how British private investment in Australia in the financial year ended 31st March, 1967, compared with that in the preceding year.
I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer which my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary gave to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Boyd-Carpenter) on 16th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 194–5.]
Devaluation (Prices)
47.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the influence which changes in the terms of trade will have on domestic price levels during the next 12 months.
Devaluation will involve an increase in the sterling cost of our imports, and hence an increase in the cost of living. The influence of devaluation on the cost of living is estimated at approximately 3 per cent.; this should constitute the rise in the cost of living due to increases in import prices in the coming year. Export prices do not affect domestic prices directly, and their indirect effects are negligible.
Crown Estate Foreshore
46.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fact that sales under the Crown Lands Acts of Her Majesty's Foreshore are contrary to the public rights of access to the adjacent beaches, if he will take steps to amend the Crown Lands Acts or otherwise to prevent future sales of Her Majesty's Foreshores and to protect the public's ancient rights of access and use.
No. The only public rights are those of navigation and fishing when the foreshore is covered by water and all sales of Crown Estate foreshore are made subject to those rights.
Income Tax
48.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from retirement pensioners' organisations seeking exemptions for their branches from the payment of Income Tax; and why his regulations do not allow this.
Several branches of the National Old Age Pensioners' Association of Wales have claimed that they should be exempt from tax as charities. But their objects include bringing pressure to bear on hon. Members and on the Government, which is not a charitable purpose.
51.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the cost to public funds of allowing husband and wife the option of being taxed separately as if they were single persons, ignoring, for the purposes of this calculation, any change in working habits that this reform might induce.
About £10 million if the option were limited to earned income but anything up to £300 million if it applied to all income.
52.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made as to the number of married persons who would take up gainful work if they were assessed as single persons; and what estimate he has made of the consequential gain to public funds.
I cannot make the desired estimates, but as things stand the Income Tax on the earnings of the great bulk of earning wives is the same as would be due from a single person.
65.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to exempt farmers from payment of tax on compensation received when their cattle, pigs and sheep are slaughtered, as a result of the incidence of foot-and-mouth disease.
While I greatly sympathise with farmers who lose their animals in the circumstances referred to, I do not think it would be right to give them any new relief from tax over and above that available in cases of compulsory slaughter by virtue of Section 23 of the Finance Act, 1953.
Government Departments (Property Purchases)
49.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the practice of Government Departments regarding the purchase of property in advance of actual requirements when the owners are willing to sell and the land is due eventually to be compulsorily purchased.
While Government Departments do not normally buy property in advance of actual requirements, where property is affected by planning proposals and the provisions of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1962, apply, purchases are made.
Charities (Sterling Payments To Rhodesia)
53.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will relax the conditions under which charities can transmit funds to their branches or associates in Rhodesia; and if he will make a statement.
No change is at present contemplated. Sterling payments are allowed for current expenditure on charitable and humanitarian projects at the rate of 75 per cent. of remittances in 1965. Payments are not permitted for long-term projects which could be deferred till constitutional government is restored.
Travel Allowance
54.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will now substantially increase the currency allowance for tourist and holiday travel in countries outside the sterling area.
No.
Cabinet Office (Scientific Civil Servants)
55.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take steps to see that all scientific civil servants on the Prime Minister's staff are paid at least as much as their non-scientific equivalents.
There are no scientific civil servants on the Prime Minister's staff. If my hon. Friend is referring to the Chief Scientific Adviser and to his staff in the Cabinet Office, their salaries are based on those of the Administrative Class at corresponding levels.
Standard Industrial Classification
56.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has now made arrangements for revision of the Standard Industrial Classification, in view of the anomalies which have been revealed since the introduction of the Selective Employment Tax.
A full review of the Standard Industrial Classification unconnected with the Selective Employment Tax is now in progress and it is hoped to publish a revised edition early next year.
Civil Service Pensioners (Road Safety Act)
59.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will amend the terms under which pensions are paid to retired civil servants so as to give protection against liability to forfeit a pension should a pensioner be imprisoned for an indictable offence, in particular, for an offence under the Road Safety Act.
No amendment is necessary. A pensioner imprisoned for an offence under the Road Safety Act unconnected with his official duties before retirement does not forfeit his pension.
Bank Rate
58.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why he has approved the increase of Bank Rate to 6½ per cent.
The increase of Bank Rate to 6½ per cent. on 9th November was made with the object of countering movements of funds out of London to take advantage of rising rates in other international markets.
Direct Investment (New Zealand)
61.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how British private investment in New Zealand in the financial year ended 31st March, 1967 compared with that in the preceding year; and what steps he proposes to take to reverse the present trend.
I regret the information is not available.
Civil Servants (Numbers)
63.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many civil servants there were on 15th October, 1964; and what was the total on 30th October, 1967.
655,000 in October, 1964 and 687,000 in July, 1967. Later figures are not yet available, and Post Office staff are not included.
Civil Service (Wages And Salaries)
64.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total wages and salaries bill of the Civil Service on 15th October, 1965; and the total on 30th October, 1967.
It is estimated to be £740 million in the present financial year compared with £665 million two years ago, for non-industrial and industrial staffs excluding the Post Office.
Bank Of International Settlements (Loan)
67.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what conditions were attached to the recent loan of £90 million from the Bank of International Settlements.
The purpose of the loan was to enable us to repay our immediate obligations to the I.M.F. No conditions as to the Government's economic policies were imposed.
Value-Added Tax
66.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he has for the introduction of a valued-added tax structure; and if he will make a statement.
I have nothing to add to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 8th May.— [Vol. 746, c. 108–9.]
Government Contracts (Cbi Negotiations)
69.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the negotiations that are taking place with the Confederation of British Industry regarding Government contracts.
The negotiations are still going on, and I can make no statement at present.
Nationalised Boards (Chairmen's Salaries)
70.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to increase the salaries of the chairmen of the nationalised industries to levels consistent with those paid in private industry and abroad.
I have noted the hon. Member's suggestion.
Post-War Credits
71.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now take steps to expedite the further repayment of post-war credits.
No. I cannot in present circumstances consider any further repayment.
Foreign Loans
72.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer from how many countries Great Britain is now borrowing money; and which countries they are.
Three countries, France, Switzerland and the United States have lent us money recently. A number of other countries have taken part in multilateral lending to the United Kingdom.
Swiss Bank Loans
73.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to what extent Switzerland is now assisting Great Britain in its financial difficulties.
A total of £61 million has been advanced by the National Bank of Switzerland and by Swiss Commercial Banks.
Parliamentary Commissioner's Office (Staff)
74.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many staff are employed in the Parliamentary Commissioner's Office; what was the cost in the last year of this office; and if he will consider introducing legislation to extend the powers of the commissioner so that he can consider injustices which are caused by local authorities, nationalised industries and in Her Majesty's services.
The 1967–68 estimates provide £163,000, including allied services, for this office, which now has 60 staff. The matters raised in the last part of the Question were fully discussed in Parliament less than a year ago.
American And Canadian Loans
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the loan of 4,000 million dollars from Canada and the United States of America secured in 1945 remains to be repaid; when is repayment due; and on what occasions has repayment been postponed.
I assume that the Question refers to the line of credit of $3,750 million extended by the Government of the United States of America in 1945, of which $3,089 million remains to be repaid; and that of $1,250 million extended by the Government of Canada in 1946, of which $1,185 million was drawn and $976 million remains to be repaid.
Repayment of both loans is by annuity ending in the year 2000 but the payments of interest deferred in 1956 and of interest and principal deferred in 1957, 1964 and 1965 will be payable thereafter.
Public Service Pensions
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the cost in the first year of bringing all public service pensions up to parity with pensions awarded up to 1st April, 1967; and what proportion of that amount would be borne by local authorities.
About £90 million, of which some 20 per cent. would be borne by local authorities from rates and Exchequer grants.
Inland Revenue (Staff)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total establishment of civil servants employed in the Inland Revenue to the most convenient date; and how many vacancies remain unfilled.
Excluding casual staff, 63,527 and 106 respectively on 1st November, 1967. The vacancies do not, however, include deficiencies in grades such as valuers where there is no fixed staff complement.
Finance Act, 1965 (Companies)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will arrange for a survey to be made of the effect of the Finance Act, 1965, which has the effect of making companies raise new money by means of debenture and loan stock to see the extent to which this has kept up interest rates nationally.
No. The effect of changes in taxation are kept under review in the normal course of Government business.
Sterling
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he proposes to take to meet the French Government's demand that sterling should cease to be a reserve currency, before Great Britain could join the Common Market; and how long he estimates this will take.
I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer which I gave the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten) today.
Tobacco Duty
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement on his policy with regard to the raising of revenue by taxes on carcinogenic substances.
Changes in the duty on tobacco are a matter for the Budget.
Companies (Capital Investment Abroad)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, in view of its immediate effect on the balance of payments, he will take steps to stop the declared policy of certain large firms to invest an increasing proportion of their capital abroad.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answers given today to him and to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Dickens).
Housing
Mortgage Quota (Market Harborough)
76.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why he has reduced the quota for house purchase lending of Market Harborough Urban District Council from £50,000 to £10,000.
The authority asked for £50,000 though their basic quota for 1967–68, on the same basis used for all other authorities, was £7,800. I did not cut their quota but increased it by nearly a third.
Council Houses (Birmingham Overspill)
77.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether the Redditch Development Corporation have now been asked to reconsider their plans in tile light of his proposal to find sites for an additional 15,000 council houses for Birmingham within the Green Belt area of Worcestershire.
I have arranged to discuss this whole problem with the Development Corporation, Birmingham and Worcestershire in the next few weeks.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is satisfied that all the problems which will arise if the 15,000 houses planned to take overspill from Birmingham are superimposed on an existing balanced community have been considered by Her Majesty's Government; and if he will make a statement.
I shall certainly take these problems into account. An inquiry will be held before any final decision is reached about the use of any of this land for housing.
100 Per Cent Mortgages
78.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a statement about the progress of his talks with the building societies regarding the provision of 100 per cent. mortgages.
I am in consultation with representatives of the Building Societies and Insurance Companies, but I am not yet ready to make any statement.
Older Houses (Review)
85.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he expects to announce his conclusions upon the general review of the problems of legislation affecting older houses, as foreshadowed in his Department's circular No. 69/67.
The review is proceeding, but my right hon. Friend is not yet in a position to make any announcement.
Expensive Site Subsidy
88.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will state the amounts paid in subsidy for multi-storey housing, and in expensive site subsidies in each of the six conurbations and in the rest of Great Britain, respectively, in each of the last three years.
I regret that the information is not available in the form requested. The total expensive site subsidy paid in England, however, was £1·258 million in 1964–65, £1·675 million in 1965–66 and £2·120 million in 1966–67.
Disabled Persons
89.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he has taken to encourage local authorities to build dwellings specifically to meet the needs of disabled people; and what assessment he has made of the present requirement for, and provision of, such dwellings.
The attention of local authorities was drawn to the housing requirements of disabled people in a circular issued in 1964, which gave advice on certain special points of design involved.As my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health announced on 23rd October, the Government Social Survey is about to carry out a study of disabled adults living at home in order to find out the extent to which they receive and need help from local authority services. The survey will include the housing aspects of disablement.—[Vol. 751, c. 1332–3.]
New Houses, Dorset, (Applications)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many applications to build a house in a rural area in Dorset were received during 1966; and how many of these were refused, accepted, and granted on appeal, respectively.
Information in precisely the form asked for by the hon. Member is not available. In 1966 there were 2,254 applications for new houses in Dorset outside those areas covered by Town Maps. Of these 1,670 were allowed. As to appeals fifty were received for houses in administrative rural districts during 1966 of which four were allowed.
Housing Subsidy (England And Wales)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the total housing subsidy exclusively from rates in England and Wales during the financial year 1966–67, and the aver age benefit thereof per council-house tenant.
I regret that this information is not yet available.
Local Government
Tower Hill
79.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether plans have been approved for the layout of the north side of Tower Hill; and whether he will place them in the Library.
I understand that outline proposals are likely to be considered by a committee of the Greater London Council early in the New Year. No plans are yet available, but I will arrange for a set to be deposited in the Library as soon as possible.
New Towns (Industry)
81.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he is taking to ensure that industry is available to accompany population into the areas like Redditch, Droitwich and Dawley, to which overspill from Birmingham is being channelled.
My right hon. Friend is urging the Birmingham Corporation and the other conurbation authorities to help and encourage industrialists to move to these new towns where houses and sites for factories are being made available. As the towns grow they will themselves become increasingly attractive to industry.
Land Commission
80.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is his policy in regard to the part to be played by the Land Commission in negotiations between developers and private individuals.
The Commission would consider intervening if they were requested to do so by either or both of the parties or if there was evidence that betterment levy was being added to the asking price of the land.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what criteria the Land Commission use to decide which firms shall be allowed to tender for land offered for sale by the Commission.
Applications will be considered from firms that are on the register of the National House-Builders Registration Council or can comply with similar standards. Apart from this the main criteria for selection will be the stocks of land already held, and the capacity of the firms to complete the development of the land satisfactorily in a reasonable time.
Rate Rebate (Blyth, Bedlington And Seaton Valley)
82 and 83.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) what is the amount of rate rebate payments made in Seaton Valley Urban District Council, Bedlington Urban District Council and Blyth Borough Council areas;(2) what is the amount of rate rebate payments applied for in Seaton Valley Urban District Council, Bedlington Urban District Council and Blyth Borough Council areas.
The total amounts of rebate afforded by these authorities in 1966–67 were:
| £ | ||
| Blyth Borough | … | 9,285 |
| Bedlington Urban District | … | 6,695 |
| Seaton Valley Urban District | … | 4,813 |
Oil Pollution
86.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he has taken and with what result to protect British ports and seaside resorts from the recent damage caused by sea pollution and from oil and slick and other deleterious substances discharged by ships in British waters; and what steps he has taken by Her Majesty's protection squadrons or otherwise to identify and penalise the guilty ships and to recover compensation for the damage done.
The Department has made proposals to the local authority associations on measures designed to strengthen the ability of local authorities to fight oil pollution both on and off shore, and consultations are proceeding with all despatch. But the only sure protection is the prevention of pollution at source. My right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade is vigorously pursuing this objective through the appropriate international agencies, in which questions of detection, enforcement and liability are also being considered.
Planning Permission
84.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware that some local planning authorities make it a condition of granting planning permission that the applicant enters into a deed of covenant as to the future use of the land depriving him of any right of appeal under existing planning legislation; and whether he will take steps to end this practice.
I know of no case where a planning authority has granted permission subject to a condition of this kind.
Flood Barrier (Purfleet)
87.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when a decision about a movable flood barrier in the Purfleet area, so as to give London protection from possible North Sea surges and floods, will be announced.
I will make a statement on this subject as soon as practicable.
Dawley New Town (Schemes)
90.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the estimated further cost of completing the schemes already begun in the Dawley New Town area by the Development Corporation.
Contracts still running will cost between £5 million and £6 million to complete.
Town Centre Redevelopment Schemes (North-West Region)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what information he has of the number of town centre developments in the North-West which have been postponed during the current year.
Twenty-five schemes in the North-West Region were included in the town centre redevelopment programme which my right hon. Friend announced on 4th July. Seven schemes were deferred for later consideration.
Derelict Land, Northumberland (Reclamation)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take the necessary steps to ensure the setting up of a drainage board or similar authority to assist in the speedier reclamation of derelict land in Northumberland, both for industrial and agricultural purposes.
Steps necessary to assist in the speedier reclamation of derelict land in Northumberland are under consideration. We shall be in touch with the county council.
Building Regulations
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) why the new Building Regulations allow the use of impregnated woods for external walls, whether painted or not, but permit the use of unimpregnated woods for windows and doors; and whether he will amend the Regulations in that connection to allow the greater use of suitable painted timber for external cladding purposes;(2) whether he is aware that Regulation B3 of the Building Regulations 1965 lays down that the painting or coating of materials must not be taken into account in connection with their weather-resisting capabilities, and while ruling out the use of painted timbers for external walls, permits the use for such purposes of steel coated with galvanised zinc, vitreous enamel or bitumen; and whether he will reconsider the prohibition imposed on the use of painted timber for external walls.
The provisions in the building regulations relating to the use of painted timber for external cladding have recently been considered by the Ministry and the Building Regulations Advisory Committee, and proposals for amendment of these provisions will later be circulated to the bodies concerned for comment. One minor amendment—the addition of a further species of timber which may be used unimpregnated—was included in the amending regulations laid before the House on 13th November.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether the list of materials set out in Regulation B 3 of the Building Regulations, 1965 as being materials unsuitable for external walls or roofs of buildings is comprehensive; and whether any materials not listed therein are regarded as not being unsuitable and may therefore be used.
The list of materials in Regulation B 3 is comprehensive for the purposes of Section 53 of the Public Health Act, 1936, which has special reference to materials specified as unsuitable for use in the construction of permanent buildings. But this does not limit Regulation B 1 which is concerned with the fitness of any materials used in building.
Industrial Development Grant (North-West Region)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government to how many local authorities in the North-West Region grants have been made under Section 20(3) of the Industrial Development Act, 1966; and what was the total value of such grants for acquiring land and carrying out work on land acquired, respectively.
Two outline schemes have been approved under the Industrial Development Act, 1966, relating to land at St. Helens and Ellesmere Port. Some 58 acres of land are involved. The costs upon which grant will be calculated are not known at this stage.
Commonwealth Affairs
Aldabra Atoll
91 and 92.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs (1) what discussions he has had with the Government of Tanzania about a British and United States base or staging post at Aldabra Atoll in the Indian Ocean; and if he will make a statement;(2) what representations he has had from the Indian Government about a British/United States base or staging post on the island of Aldabra; and what reply he has sent.
We have had no discussions about Aldabra with the Government of Tanzania which broke diplomatic relations with Britain in December, 1965. The Indian Ministry of External Affairs have expressed their objections to the establishment of military bases in the Indian Ocean. As a result of discussions both in London and New Delhi I am satisfied that the Indian Government accept our assurances that what we have been considering is the construction of staging facilities, not a base.
Rhodesia
93.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement about emigration to Rhodesia.
The available evidence indicates that since I.D.I. emigration from the United Kingdom to Rhodesia has been greatly reduced.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what further discussions he has had following his recent visit to Rhodesia; and if he will make a statement.
I have nothing to add to my statement of 14th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 231–9.]
Anglo-Australian Relations
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs, in view of Great Britain's decision to withdraw from the Far East, what proposals he has for improving relations between this country and Australia.
Our recent decisions on defence policy in the Far East were taken after the closest consultation with the Australian Government. As the House knows, we are planning to maintain a military capability for use, if required, in the area even when we no longer have forces permanently based there. We shall continue to remain in very close touch with the Australian Government on these issues; and I do not accept that our decisions have damaged our relations with Australia in the way that is implied.
Electricity
Thorpe Marsh Power Station (Breakdown)
94.
asked the Minister of Power if he will make a statement on the recent breakdown in generating equipment at Thorpe Marsh Power Station, setting out the causes of the breakdown, the loss of power resulting therefrom, and the steps to be taken to avoid a recurrence.
No. Since this was a breakdown which did not interrupt supplies it is entirely a matter of day-to-day management for the Central Electricity Generating Board.
Coal
Mining Manpower, South Wales (Decline)
95.
asked the Minister of Power what is the estimated decline of manpower in the South Wales mining industry for the years 1968 to 1975, as envisaged in the White Paper on Fuel Policy.
On the basis of a national annual reduction of 35,000 in mining manpower up to 1970–71, the annual decline of manpower in the South Wales mining industry is likely to be about 5,000. The decline, although at a lower rate, is expected to continue during the period to 1975.
National Coal Board (Surplus And Deficit Per Head Of Population)
asked the Minister of Power (1) what estimate he has made of the cost of making the calculation of dividing the accumulated surplus or deficit of the National Coal Board in Scotland, and England and Wales, respectively, by the total population in each of those countries;
(2) what is the total accumulated surplus or deficit of the National Coal Board per head of population in Scotland, and England and Wales, respectively, excluding those activities not accounted for on a divisional basis.
Calculations on the basis first requested would have involved a disproportionate amount of work, the cost of which was not estimated.Disregarding activities and charges which were not accounted for on a Divisional basis, the accumulated results for the Scottish Division represent a deficit of £30 17s. 4d. per head of population in Scotland. The corresponding figure for England and Wales is a surplus of 5s. 4d.
Ministry Of Power
Fuel Requirements (North-West)
asked the Minister of Power what revision he has made of the fuel requirements for the North West, in view of the fact that the industrial growth laid down in the National Plan has not been obtained; if he will specify the targets for coal, electricity, gas and atomic energy; and if he will make a statement.
The Government do not set production targets for individual fuels. Estimates of fuel requirements for particular areas are the responsibility of the fuel industries, which keep in touch with fuel using industries, local authorities and with the Regional Economic Planning Councils.
Shipbuilding Industry (Steel Prices)
asked the Minister of Power if he is aware that British steel shipbuilding plates are sold overseas for £35 a ton and at the same time a price of £42 a ton is imposed on the home market; from what funds this subsidy of £7 a ton to foreign shipbuilders is paid; and if he will issue a direction to the Steel Corporation to stop this policy which handicaps British shipbuilding firms, and worsens the balance of payments problem.
I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for South Shields (Mr. Blenkinsop) on 7th November.—[Vol. 753, c. 810.]
Technology
Electro-Chemical Machinery Projects (Government Support)
97.
asked the Minister of Technology whether it is the Government's policy to encourage the development of electro-chemical machining.
Yes. The Department is discussing with individual firms and research bodies the possibility of Government support for a number of specific electrochemical machinery projects.
Concord Aircraft
98.
asked the Minister of Technology if he will give an assurance that the Concord will not be cancelled by Her Majesty's Government, providing the test flying programme of the prototypes is successful.
The results of prototype test flying are only one of many factors to be taken into account in judging the viability of any advanced aircraft project but success here is essential for Concord's commercial success and would contribute to it.
Atomic Weapons Research Establishment (Civil Expenditure)
asked the Minister of Technology what was the amount of work carried out, as a percentage of total expenditure, between defence and civilian projects by the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment, Aldermaston, during each of the past three years.
The proportion of total expenditure at Atomic Weapons Research Establishment attributable to civil work during the past three years is:—
| 1964–65 | … | … | 14 per cent. |
| 1965–66 | … | … | 15 per cent. |
| 1966–67 | … | … | 17 per cent. |
Departmental Contracts (Electronics Association, North East)
asked the Minister of Technology if he will state the number and value of contracts his Department has placed with electronic firms in the North East.
The number of contracts placed with member firms of the Electronics Association of the North East and which are not yet completed is thirty-one and their aggregate value is approximately £470,000.
Dounreay Experimental Reactor Establishment (Brain Drain)
asked the Minister of Technology what steps he is taking to stop the brain drain at Dounreay.
I have nothing to add to the open letter that I addressed to the staff of the Atomic Energy Authority on 15th November concerning the attempt of the Westinghouse Corporation to recruit British scientists and engineers with experience of liquid metal-cooled fast reactors. I have also discussed the subject with senior management and staff representatives from Dounreay, and Risley.
asked the Minister of Technology how many scientists and other workers in Dounreay Experimental Station in Aberdeenshire have left it and gone to the United States of America within the last six months; why they left; how it has affected the work of the station; and what steps he plans to continue to expand the work of the station.
I am informed by the A.E.A. that two employees have left the Dounreay Experimental Reactor Establishment to go to the United States of America during the last six months. One was a senior machine operator who accompanied her American husband back home. The other was a Scientific Officer who mentioned better pay as his main reason for leaving. The loss of these staff had no effect on the work of the Establishment. The Dounreay Establishment is engaged on an important programme of work including the development of fact reactor systems which will keep it busy for many years to come.
British Ship Research Association
asked the Minister of Technology if he is aware of the negotiations recently between Her Majesty's Government and the British Ship Research Association directed to the implementation of that part of the Geddes Report which recommended the grant of £200,000 additional Government grant to the British Ship Research Association for three years; and what steps he plans on these lines to avoid unemployment in that industry and to avoid shipbuilding contracts being lost to Great Britain.
Additional financial support for this Research Association will be by way of contract or earmarked grant for specific projects and a number of these are now under discussion with the Association. The benefit of additional research and assistance for the industry's reorganisation is longer term but the home orders to the value of £80 million for which credit guarantees have now been provided or are under consideration should make an early contribution to the maintenance of employment in shipyards.
Home Department
Police Officers (Deaf Persons)
99.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what guidance is issued for chief constables and the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis about the special needs and difficulties of deaf people when charged with offences or otherwise brought into contact with constables on duty.
Police officers are well aware of the need for special consideration when dealing with any person who suffers from disability or illness. Home Office advice in regard to the deaf and dumb has been limited to helping police forces to find interpreters.
Indictable Offences (Cambridge)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of the Mid-Anglia Constabulary regarding the numbers of residents in the city of Cambridge who have been charged so far this year with indictable and non-indictable offences, respectively, and the numbers within these totals who were undergraduates.
The chief constable informs me that, during the first nine months of 1967, there appeared before the Cambridge City magistrates' court 337 people (of whom 13 were undergraduates) charged with indictable offences and 4,495 people (of whom 240 were undergraduates) charged with non-indictable offences. It would involve a disproportionate effort to find out how many of those so charged were resident in Cambridge, and how many Cambridge residents were charged in other courts during the same period.
Commonwealth Immigrants
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will provide a table of single and married
| Voucher holders | Dependants | ||||
| Period | —men | Men | Women | Children under 16 | |
| 1962 (July—December) | … | 3,540 | 259 | 4,039 | 4,534 |
| 1963 | … | 27,371 | 833 | 11,331 | 14,070 |
| 1964 | … | 11,784 | 1,239 | 13,437 | 22,784 |
| 1965 | … | 9,710 | 1,485 | 14,992 | 24,737 |
| 1966 | … | 4,365 | 1,450 | 13,592 | 26,984 |
| 1967 (January—september) | … | 2,988 | 1,687 | 10,968 | 25,608 |
South Africa (Defence Equipment)
100.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will now consider modifying the arms ban to South Africa by allowing the export of arms for maritime defence.
Any South African requests for the supply of defence equipment are considered in the light of existing policy, as it has been implemented since my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister announced our arms embargo in November, 1964.
Algeria (British Aircraft)
101.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he has made to the Algerian Government about the British aircraft detained in Algeria by the Algerian Government; and with what result.
We have been in constant touch with the Algerian authorities since the aircraft landed in Algeria on 30th June. Since the two British pilots were released on 23rd September we have continued to press for the release of the aircraft. We were assured at the end of October by a responsible Algerian official that this would be done soon.
male Commonwealth immigrants, with alongside a similar table showing, separately, wives, children and other male and female dependent relatives admitted each year since 1950 at or the earliest date at which figures are available.
The available information is as follows:—
Rhodesia
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations he has made to the Swiss Government regarding the 47 per cent. officially recorded increase in Swiss imports from Rhodesia during the first seven months of this year, and with what results.
We have been in contact with the Swiss Government, as with other friendly Governments, on questions of continuing trade with Rhodesia. Switzerland is not however a member of the United Nations and is thus under no obligation to accept mandatory sanctions. The Swiss Government have nevertheless decided to restrict imports from Rhodesia to a level not exceeding the average of the last three years.
Norway (Foreign Secretary's Visit)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on his discussions with the Norwegian Government during the course of his visit to Norway in August.
Our discussions covered a wide range of subjects including East/West relations, the future of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, the situation in Greece and the Far East. We also discussed the Middle East crisis, which has important consequences for Norway, particularly on the question of shipping. My visit came at an opportune moment for a useful exchange of views on the integration of Western Europe in the light of our applications for membership of the European Communities.
Refugees (United Nations Protocol)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs why the United Kingdom has not yet acceded to the United Nations Protocol on the Status of Refugees.
We have not yet been able to accede because time is still required to ascertain the views of all the overseas territories which would be committed by our accession. We hope, however, to accede in the near future.
Middle East
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what proposals have Her Majesty's Government put to the Israeli Government regarding the Middle East settlement; and if he will make a statement.
My consultations with foreign Governments must be confidential, and it would, therefore, not be appropriate for me to make a statement.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what recent discussions he has had on the Middle East; and if he will make a statement.
When I visited New York for the 22nd session of the General Assembly, I had consultations with President Johnson and with a large number of Foreign Ministers of Middle Eastern and other interested countries and with the United Nations Secretary General. Since then I have remained in continuous consultation personally or through diplomatic channels with the Governments concerned.
Vietnam
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations Her Majesty's Government have received from other Governments about British trade, and trade carried in British-registered shipping, with North Vietnam; what is the nature, and the extent, of such trade; what replies have been made to such representations; and whether he will make a statement.
The United States Government have discussed the situation with us on a number of occasions. We do not believe that the visits by British Flag ships to North Vietnam contribute in any material sense to the North Vietnamese war effort. Our trade with North Vietnam is very small and is subject to the normal controls on the export of strategic goods to certain countries. The trade figures for 1965 and 1966 were given by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Under-Secretary on 12th June to the hon. and gallant Member for Lewes (Sir T. Beamish). In the first nine months of 1967 the two-way trade was about £106,000. I have no definite information about foreign cargoes carried on British Flag ships but the number of such ships is small. —[Vol. 748, c. 6.]
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what new initiative he proposes to make on Vietnam.
I have nothing to add to the Answer my right hon. Friend gave on 20th November to my hon. Friend and to my hon. Friends the Members for Falmouth and Camborne (Dr. John Dunwoody) and Croydon, South (Mr. Winnick) and to the hon. Gentlemen the Members for Chelmsford (Mr. St. John-Stevas) and Blackpool, South (Mr. Blaker).—[Vol. 754, c. 905–8.]
Yemen
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to what extent the United Arab Republic has now withdrawn its armed forces from the Yemen, in accordance with United Nations requirements; and whether he will make a statement.
Reports we have suggest that the United Arab Republic forces in the Yemen are withdrawing rapidly and that withdrawal should be complete by mid-December in accordance with the agreement reached between the United Arab Republic and Saudi Arabia during the Khartoum conference last August.
South Arabia
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he intends to continue the annual aid of £50 million to whatever Government takes over in South Arabia.
I have nothing to add to what I said on this subject in the Foreign Affairs debate on 2nd November. This is clearly one of the matters for negotiation to which I referred in my statement on South Arabia on 14th November. The hon. Member appears to be thinking of three years' anticipated expenditure rather than one.—[Vol. 753, c. 340; Vol. 754, c. 226.]
Territorial Integrity And Political Independence
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs which treaties or declarations, bilateral, multilateral or in pursuance of United Nations Security Council resolutions, continue to bind Her Majesty's Government to support the territorial integrity or the restoration of Governments representing democratic self-determination in Bulgaria, Hungary, Rumania, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia.
Her Majesty's Government recognise only the present Governments of Bulgaria, Hungary, Rumania, Czechoslovakia and Poland. Her Majesty's Government recognise that Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia have been incorporated de facto into the Soviet Union but have not recognised this de jure.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will list the outstanding international obligations bilateral, multilateral and in pursuance of the United Nations Security Council resolutions which require Her Majesty's Government to support the restoration of the territorial integrity and/or political independence of any country.
So far as I can ascertain, without exhaustive research, there is at present no international legal instrument or resolution of the Security Council which lays upon Her Majesty's Government a binding obligation to support the restoration of the territorial integrity and/or political independence of any State. It is, of course, possible that, by virtue of Article 25 of the United Nations Charter, Her Majesty's Government might be involved in obligations of this nature in the future, pursuant to a decision of the Security Council in that sense in a particular case.
Gibraltar
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in the light of the Gibraltar Referendum result, he will now undertake not to include the question of sovereignty in the renewed Anglo-Spanish talks on Gibraltar; and whether he will undertake that the talks will deal with Anglo-Spanish relations as a whole including Gibraltar, and not as separable issues.
I have nothing to add to the replies which I have given earlier today to my hon. Friends the Members for Brighouse and Spenborough (Mr. Colin Jackson) and Goole (Mr. George Jeger) and to the hon. Member for Horn-castle (Mr. Tapsell).
Suez Canal
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the present position relating to the closure of the Suez Canal.
I have nothing to add to what I said in the debate on the Address on 2nd November.—[Vol. 753, c. 343–4.]
Economic Affairs
Unemployment (Development Areas)
asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what estimate he has made of the levels of unemployment in the development areas which will finally result from the regional employment premia and other analogous measures of differential regional assistance.
Our approximation would be that the total effect of all present measures over a period of years should be to reduce the margin between average unemployment in the Development Areas and in the rest of the country by appreciably over one-half.
National Institute Of Economic And Social Research (Immigration Report)
102.
asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if, in view of the continuing influx of immigrants especially of women and children, and the possibility of continuing uncontrolled large scale immigration from East Africa, he will ask the National Institute of Economic and Social Research to expedite its report on the economic effects of immigration.
No. We need a thorough and wide-ranging study and no useful purpose would be served by asking for the report to be expedited.
Duchy Of Lancaster
Wages And Salaries (Standstill)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what new legislation he proposes to introduce to enforce the new wage and salary standstill which his devaluation policy necessitates; when this will be introduced; for how long it will run; whether this will apply to the lower-paid workers; and how many he estimates they are.
I have been asked to reply. None.
Ministry Of Defence
Scots Greys Regiment
103.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the future of the Scots Greys.
I would refer the hon. Member to my answer to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, South (Mr. Clark Hutchison) in reply to a similar Question of 15th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 132.]
Aldabra Atoll
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of the representations he has received so far from authoritative British and foreign bodies asking that a defence base should not be built on Aldabra; and whether he will place copies of them in the Library.
The following is a list of bodies from which I have received representations this year:
- The Royal Society.
- The Royal Society of Edinburgh.
- The British Ornithologists' Union.
- The Section on Conservation of Terrestrial Communities of the International Biological Programme.
- The British Section of the International Council for Bird Preservation.
- The National Audubon Society of the U.S.A.
- The Chicago Academy of Sciences.
- The Paleontological Society of the Department of Geography of the University of Illinois.
- The Labour Peace Fellowship.
- The Eltham Social Progress Group.
- The Wildfowlers' Association of Great Britain and Ireland.
- The Honolulu Zoo.
Recruitment (Expenditure)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what sums of money were spent in the year 1966–67 by the Royal Navy, the Army and the Royal Air Force on advertisements and other publicity for the purpose of recruitment.
The information is as follows:
| Royal Navy | … | £873,000 |
| Army | … | £1,719,000 |
| Royal Air Force | … | £798,000 |
Research And Development Establishments (Civil Projects)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what was the amount of work carried out, as a percentage of total expenditure, between defence and civilian projects by the Underwater Weapons Establishment during each of the past three years;(2) what was the amount of work carried out, as a percentage of total expenditure, between defence and civilian projects by the Military Engineering Experimental Establishment during each of the past three years.
Civil applications of the work done at defence research and development establishments are much wider than the amount of money earmarked for specific civilian projects would suggest, and it is not meaningful to assess the civilian element of the work in percentage terms. From A.U.W.E., for example, advice has been given to other research bodies on fish-finding sonars, on ultra-sonics as an aid to medical diagnosis, on oceanographic instrumentation, and on undersea physics; while much of M.E.X.E.'s programme is of civil interest, and the establishment is to be appointed one of the official test centres for freight containers.
Sea Cadet Corps
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what instructions he has issued with regard to the payment of hire charges by units of the Sea Cadet Corps when using Government-owned buildings.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 20th November to the hon. Member for North Fylde (Mr. Clegg).—[Vol. 754, c. 244–5.]
Scotland
Electricity Charges (Aluminium Smelting Companies)
104.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the importance of the price of electricity to the proposed aluminium smelters, he will take the necessary steps to guarantee the best estimate of cost by the Scottish electricity boards so that they, in line with the Central Electricity Generating Board for England and Wales, can offer a specific price to the smelter companies without putting the interests of their other consumers at risk; and if he will make a statement.
It is the intention both of the Government and of the Scottish electricity boards that in any special arrangements to be made for supplying aluminium smelting companies the interests of the boards' other consumers should be safeguarded. According to my information discussions between the boards and the interested companies are proceeding satisfactorily, and I have no further statement to make.
Car Treasure Hunts (Regulations)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultations he is having with the Motor Rallies Advisory Committee regarding the possibility of relaxing the regulations in relation to the conduct of car treasure hunts organised in aid of local charities.
I have asked the Committee to consider this subject at its next meeting on 4th December.
Intensive Livestock Units (Rates)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the increase in cost to agriculture in a full year of the rating of intensive livestock units.
The total rates payable in 1966–67 in respect of intensive livestock units situated on farms and assessed for rating in that year are estimated at £115,000. As very few units were assessed in earlier years, this can be taken as the increase in costs to agriculture.
Young Offenders (Convictions)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many young persons in the age group 17 to 21 years were convicted in Scottish courts for offences in the years 1957–58, 1960–61, 1963–64, 1965–66 and 1966–67, respectively.
Figures are available only for complete calendar years. The information is as follows:
| Persons in the age group 17–21 years convicted of all crimes and offences | ||||
| Scotland | ||||
| 1957 | … | … | … | 15,303 |
| 1958 | … | … | … | 17,988 |
| 1960 | … | … | … | 21,505 |
| 1961 | … | … | … | 22,230 |
| 1963 | … | … | … | 24,034 |
| 1964 | … | … | … | 27,855 |
| 1965 | … | … | … | 30,446 |
| 1966 | … | … | … | 34,781 |
M8 (Signposting)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied that the M8 motorway is adequately signposted; what representations he has received on this matter; and what reply he has sent.
Except for three temporary signs, which will be replaced very soon, on the section west of Harthill, the sign-posting of M8 accords with the Traffic Signs Regulations and is considered adequate. I have not received any representation to the contrary.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Flood Protection (Richmond)
105.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce legislation to amend the London Government Act, 1963 so as to permit the Greater London Council to build flood defences on the banks and footpaths of the River Thames now in the ownership of the Port of London Authority.
I believe the hon. Member has in mind problems that have arisen over proposals to improve flood protection in Richmond. I understand that the Greater London Council are considering methods of overcoming this problem. Public legislation would not necessarily be the most appropriate method of dealing with it.
Coracle Netting (Licences)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) how many coracle licences are held by fishermen in the United Kingdom; and what was the number held in 1945;(2) how many coracle licences are held by fishermen in Wales; and how many there were in 1945.
The numbers of licences issued in Wales for coracle netting in 1951 (the earliest year for which full records are available) and in 1967 were 30 and 22 respectively. The Department has no record that coracle netting has been practised outside South-West Wales for many years.
Prime Minister's Press Secretary (Article)
Q11.
asked the Prime Minister whether it was with his authority that his Press Adviser wrote an article on Wine at the Top describing gastronomic life at No. 10 Downing Street, Chequers and elsewhere, as part of an advertising campaign by a wine firm; and whether he will make a statement.
My Press Secretary had my authority to write the article and the right hon. Gentleman will have seen the statement by the editor concerned that it was written for the company's journals, not for an advertising campaign.
Atomic Energy (State Papers On Anglo-American Co-Operation)
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will seek agreement from the Governments of the United States of America and Canada to the publication of documents setting out the history of Anglo-American co-operation in the field of atomic energy, as governed by the 1943 wartime and 1948 post-war agreements on this subject.
No, the normal rules about the publication of State Papers of historical interest apply in this field as in others.
Gibraltar (Ministerial Responsibility)
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister whether, with a view to improving the co-ordination of departmental policies in relation to Gibraltar, he will designate a single Minister to answer all questions concerning or relating to Gibraltar, including relations with Spain, defence, immigration, and development matters.
No. I think the present arrangement whereby Ministers answer in this House for matters for which they carry direct responsibility best meets the convenience of the House.
Development Areas (Employment)
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister what further proposals he has to reduce the levels of unemployment in the special areas to a point compatible with a policy of full employment where the Government's policies and financial incentives to attract new industries do not succeed in fulfilling the regional requirements.
My right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade has recently announced substantial new measures of assistance to the special development areas affected by colliery closures. New industrial estates are to be built, and additional grants are to be available under the Local Employment Act, 1960, to companies bringing new investment projects into these areas. We have also made it clear that we are prepared to make extra funds available for improving the infra-structure of these areas, and studies are being put in hand to see how these funds could best be spent.
Unemployment (Ministerial Co-Ordination)
asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with arrangements for ministerial co-ordination in averting unacceptable unemployment this winter; and if he will make a statement.
The hon. Member asked me precisely the same Question on 24th October. The Answer also is precisely the same as it was then.—[Vol. 751, c. 449.]
Legal Aid (Rules Of The Supreme Court)
asked the Attorney-General whether he will seek to Amend Order 62 Rule 10(2) of the Rules of the Supreme Court to take account of the position of a legally aided plaintiff.
My noble Friend the Lord Chancellor is considering the effect of Order 62 Rule 10(2) of the Rules of the Supreme Court on the position of a party receiving legal aid.
Education And Science
Computer Programme
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much of the £30 million programme of computer installations referred to in paragraph 14 of the publication, the Ministry of Technology, has so far been completed.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Harrow, West (Mr. John Page) on 12th July. An additional £2 million has since been committed in respect of the hiring of a computer for London University. No later figures of expenditure for Research Councils are available.—[Vol. 750, c. 117–18.]
Arts Centres
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many arts centres have been started throughout the regions, compared with 1964.
Based on the known number in the region covered by the Northern Arts Association, the total number of arts centres in England and Wales is now estimated at over 100. The sponsors of new arts centres are under no obligation to inform either my Department or the Arts Council of their plans. Arts centres vary widely in their size, title and facilities.
Late School Leavers
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of children stayed on at school after 15 years of age in England and Wales, respectively, during each of the last three years.
The percentages of pupils in maintained schools, excluding special schools, aged 15 in relation to those aged 13 two years earlier are as follows:
| 1964 | 1965 | 1966 | ||
| England | … | 36·8 | 40·2 | 43·2 |
| Wales | … | 39·2 | 39·8 | 42·4 |
Local Authority Running Tracks (Grants)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what grants he makes available to local authorities to provide running tracks for amateur athletics; and how many local authorities have applied for and been awarded such grants in the last 12 months.
I have no powers to make grants to local authorities for the provision of sports facilities.
University Of Wales And Rennes University (Exchange Scholarships)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a study of the question of arranging exchange scholarships between the University of Wales and Rennes University in Brittany.
Exchange arrangements are a matter for the University of Wales. The Awards Regulations enable assistance to be given to students who are required to study for a time at foreign universities. I know of no special exchange arrangements with Rennes University.
Ministry Of Labour
Low Paid Workers
asked the Minister of Labour what further steps are being taken to increase the wages of those earning under £12 10s. per week.
I have nothing to add to the replies given to my hon. Friend on 10th April and 23rd October this year.—[Vol. 744, c. 710–11; Vol. 751, c. 361.]
Government Training Centres
asked the Minister of Labour how many men in the North-West have been retrained in Government establishments during the current year.
1,232 men have been trained at Government training centres in the North-West in the year ended September, 1967. When the expansion planned for 1968 is complete, it will be possible to train over 2,100 men a year in the North-West.
asked the Minister of Labour if Government training centres in the North-East, together with two additional centres contemplated take account of the anticipated training needs, together with the expected increased demand for skilled labour, arising from the inducements to firms to go to the North-East.
Yes, but I am keeping the need for further centres under review. Firms moving into or expanding in the North East are also eligible for financial assistance towards their additional training needs under my Ministry's Development Are is Training Grants Scheme. In addition, the Government has recently announced new schemes of Government grants to be administered by Industrial training boards to stimulate the provision of facilities for skilled training in firms in the Development Areas.
Plessey Telecommunications Company (Dispute)
asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware of the current dispute at the Plessey Telecommunications Company arising out of a pay claim by the Draughtsmen's and Allied Technicians Association; what percentage increase in earnings would arise from such a claim; and if it is consistent with the Government's prices and incomes policy in a period of extreme moderation.
I am aware of this dispute. At this stage it is not possible to calculate the percentage effect of the claim or to say whether incomes policy considerations would be satisfied. My Department is following the situation closely.
Coal Industry, South Ayrshire (Unemployment)
asked the Minister of Labour how many miners in South Ayrshire he estimates will be unemployed at the end of April 1968.
I have not made such an estimate.
Ukaea Establishments (Industrial Action)
asked the Minister of Labour what information he has of the industrial action undertaken by industrial workers at atomic energy establishments pending an examination of their claims by the National Board for Prices and Incomes; how long the Board have been considering this claim; and when their report is expected.
Industrial action mainly in the form of working to rule has occurred in recent weeks at some United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority establishments, but is at the moment confined to Aldermaston, Dounreay, Harwell, Risley and Winfrith. The Government referred the whole question of pay, conditions of service and productivity of the Authority's industrial employees to the National Board for Prices and Incomes on 17th October, 1967, and have asked the Board to deal with the reference as quickly as possible.
Employment (North-West Region)
asked the Minister of Labour what were the numbers in manufacturing and non-manufacturing employment, respectively, within development areas in the North-West Region and outside development areas in the region.
Following is the information:
| ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES IN NORTH WESTERN REGION AT MID-1966 | ||
| (Thousands) | ||
| In Development Areas | Outside Development Areas | |
| Manufacturing industries (Orders III—XVI of the Standard Industrial Classification) | 350 | 1,030 |
| Non-manufacturing industries (Orders I, II and XVII—XXIV) | 510 | 1,150 |
Unemployment (Barrow, Ulverston, Morecambe And Lancaster)
asked the Minister of Labour what was the percentage of unemployed in October in his Department's areas of the Barrow, Ulverston, Morecambe, and Lancaster offices, respectively.
Following is the information:
| Percentage rates of unemployment at 9th October, 1967 | |||||
| Per cent. | |||||
| Barrow-in-Furness, | including | ||||
| Dalton-in-Furness | … | … | 2·9 | ||
| Ulverston | … | … | … | … | 2·2 |
| Morecambe | … | … | … | … | 4·9 |
| Lancaster | … | … | … | … | 2·3 |
Redeployment (North West)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many workers in the North West he estimates have been redeployed from the service industries to manufacturing industries since the introduction of the Selective Employment Tax.
I have been asked to reply. I regret the information is not available.
Overseas Development
Ghana (Assistance)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what help in aid, loans and technical assistance Her Majesty's Government have given to Ghana since their change of Government; and what plans he has for increasing this help.
Since the change of Government in Ghana, Her Majesty's Government has made a loan of £4 million for the purchase of British goods and services in 1967. In addition during the period 1st April, 1966 to 30th September, 1967, my Department has given Ghana technical assistance to a total value of £500,000 and the Commonwealth Office military assistance costing about £400,000. During this period there were also small disbursements of £80,000 arising from a previous loan.During the United Kingdom financial year 1967–68 technical assistance to Ghana is expected to cost over £½ million, which is about double the level for 1966–67, and military assistance is continuing.Her Majesty's Government will continue to give sympathetic consideration to Ghana's needs. The question of further financial aid will be decided in the light of a meeting of donor Governments and agencies and the Ghana Government to be held in the first quarter of 1968. We shall continue to expand our technical assistance programme, and the Commonwealth Development Corporation is actively considering some investment projects in Ghana.
South Vietnam (Technical Assistance)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development if he will specify, precisely and in detail, the commitments incurred in technical assistance to South Vietnam, under the Colombo Plan, from 1964 to the latest date.
The details are as follows:
| BILATERAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO SOUTH VIETNAM UNDER THE COLOMBO PLAN | |||||||||
| Calendar Years | |||||||||
| £000 | |||||||||
| 1964 | 1965 | 1966 | 1st Jan.–3lst March, 1967 | 1967–68 (estimates) | |||||
| Trainees | … | … | … | … | 5·0 | 9 | 16 | 5 | 12 |
| Experts | … | … | … | … | 2·3 | 6 | 56 | 24 | 130·5 |
| Equipment | … | … | … | … | 1·7 | 4 | 22 | 9 | 67·5 |
| Buildings (small capital grants) | … | — | — | — | 10 | — | |||
| 9·0 | 19 | 94 | 48 | 210 | |||||
Trainees
Spheres of study have included public administration and law; Trades Unions; Co-operatives; export promotion; television broadcasting and journalism; agriculture; photography; medicine and pharmacy. In the current financial year there have so far been eight trainees, and four more applications have been approved in principle. We have told the Vietnamese Government that we should welcome additional applications.
Experts
Between 1964 and 1966 the Ministry of Overseas Development financed one English Language lectureship at Hue University and short term visits by advisers on tea production, tropical medicine, paediatrics and technical education. In July, 1966, our 5-year commitment at the children's hospital in Saigon began. As the House has already been informed we hope to increase our medical team there from 11 to 18, probably during the course of the current financial year. Since January, 1967, a British tea adviser, who is also to act as manager of a green tea factory now being built by the Vietnamese Government, has been working at Blao, 120 miles north-east of Saigon.
Equipment
Expenditure in 1964 and 1965 was confined to minor purchases for Universities and hospitals. Equipment provided between 1st January, 1966, and 31st
March, 1967, included 40 anæsthetic medicines for provincial hospitals; equipment, supplies and drugs for the pædiatric team; Visual Aid Slope Indicator equipment for Saigon Airport (a standard International Civil Aviation Organisation requirement for international airports) and miscellaneous minor items of equipment and books. In the current financial year, apart from miscellaneous items totalling about £1,700, the estimated expenditures cover exclusively equipment and supplies furnished to the Faculty of Pharmacy and to the Children's Hospital. It is possible that some part of these expenditures may fall in 1968–69 rather than in the current financial year.
Buildings
The 1967 expenditure was for a new laboratory at the Children's Hospital.
Telephone Service
Waiting List (Hertford)
asked the Postmaster-General (1) how many of the present applicants for telephones in the Hertford borough area will have their houses connected to the telephone service by the winter of 1968 after the new exchange equipment will have been installed;(2) how many people are on the waiting list for a telephone in the Hertford borough area; and what is the average time they have to wait before the telephone connection to their house is made.
The new exchange equipment at Hertford was expected to be ready in July, 1968, but because of delay in delivery it will not now be completed until late in October. There are 340 applicants on the waiting list for telephones in their homes, and these will all be connected when the new exchange equipment has been installed. At present they have been waiting for an average of six months, but many have been waiting longer. Some shortages of underground lines may exist in October, 1968, but they will not affect those customers now waiting.
Wireless And Television
Bbc (Breton News Programme)
asked the Postmaster-General if he will direct the British Broadcasting Corporation to introduce a short news programme each day in Breton.
No.
Post Office
Postal Order Service
asked the Postmaster-General whether he proposes to replace or discontinue the present postal order system after the postal giro system has been started.
No. But the future of the postal order service will be reviewed after the National Giro service has been in operation for long enough to make this possible.
Postal And Money Orders (Amounts Under 5S)
asked the Postmaster-General approximately how many postal orders and money orders for sums of less than 5s. were transmitted within the United Kingdom during the financial year 1966–67.
About 223 million postal orders for amounts under 5s. were sold in 1966–67. I have no separate records of money orders sold for amounts under 5s. but the number is negligible.
Social Security
Retirement Pensions (Means Test)
asked the Minister of Social Security, in view of the uncertainty that has arisen in Scotland about her policy on the application of the means test in the field of retirement pensions, if she will now make a statement.
It is possible that some readers of the "Scottish Pensioner" have some uncertainty because two completely conflicting reports of my views on this subject appeared in the issue of November, 1967. The first report, on page 1, which suggested that I favoured the means-testing of retirement pensions, grossly misrepresented my views. The other, on page 3, accurately reflected the speech I made in Newcastle on 25th September.
Public Building And Works
Government Office Projects (North West)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works how many Government office projects are at present in hand in those areas of the North West outside the development areas; and if he will list them.
Six Crown local office buildings (Failsworth, Hyde, Macclesfield, Preston, Stockport and Wythenshawe) and a computer centre for the Inland Revenue Department (Manchester) are under construction or being designed.
Board Of Trade
Industrial Development Certificates (Floor Space)
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many square feet of space have been granted under the industrial development certificates in 1966 and the first half of 1967 in the London and South-East areas and in the West Midlands area, respectively.
The area of floor space for which industrial development certificates were issued in 1966 and the first half of 1967 in the London and South-Eastern areas and in the West Midlands area is given in the table below
| 1966 | 1967 | |
| million sq. ft. | (Jan.—June) million sq. ft. | |
| South-East (including London | 13·2 | 10·7 |
| West Midlands | 6·4 | 4·1 |
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many square feet of space have been granted under the industrial development certificates in the development areas in 1966 and the first half of 1967; and what percentage this is of the total amount granted.
In 1966, 29·1 million sq. ft.; in the first half of 1967, 16·4 million sq. ft. representing 34 per cent. of the total. Because of a change in definition during 1966 a percentage for the whole of that year which would he comparable to that of 1967 is not available. The comparable percentage for the last quarter of 1966 only is 28 per cent. An explanation of the change in definition was given on page 1049 of the "Board of Trade Journal" for 27th October, 1967.
Empty Factories (Glc Area)
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many empty factories there are at the moment in the area covered by the Greater London Council; and how many square feet these cover.
I regret the information is not available.
Investment Expenditure (North-West Region)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the value of investment ranking for investment grant for which grant has been approved in respect of expenditure incurred between 17th January, 1966, and 31st December, 1966, in the North-West Region within development areas and outside development areas, respectively.
Up to 10th November grant had been approved at the development area rate on expenditure of £41·9 million and at the standard rate of £57·7 million.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the value of investment ranking for investment grant for which grant has been approved in respect of expenditure incurred since 1st January, 1967, in the North-West Region within development areas and outside development areas, respectively.
The figures up to 10th November were £8,914 and £70,910 respectively. These sums relate to expenditure in the first quarter of 1967 on which claims were invited on 1st November.
Departmental Acquisition Of Land (North-West Region)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the number of occasions under Section 20(2) of the Industrial Development Act, 1966 his Department has acquired land in the North-West Region; and what was the total acreage acquired.
The Board of Trade has not acquired any land in the North-West Region under this Section of the Industrial Development Act, 1966.
Aviation
British European Airways (Belfast-London Service)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will give a directive to British European Airways to improve the efficiency of their service between Belfast and London.
No. A direction would not be appropriate. This is a matter primarily for B.E.A.'s commercial management.I am writing to the hon. Member in reply to his letter of 16th November about this service.
Railways
Aberdeen—Ballater Line
asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware that the delay in the discussions between her Department and the Scottish Office relating to the Aberdeen to Ballater branch line is causing great loss and inconvenience to Aberdeen citizens; and when she will take steps to resolve the relevant problems.
I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member for North Angus and Mearns (Mr. Buchanan-Smith) on 15th November. —[Vol. 754, c. 103.]