Written Answers To Questions
Wednesday, 29th November, 1967
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Dairy Products And Eggs (Import Costs)
28.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much he estimates imports of dairy products and eggs will cost during 1967.
It is not possible to quantify imports for the last three months of 1967 but it is estimated that for January-September, 1967 imports of dairy products cost £144,873,000 and imports of eggs cost £1,951,000.
Fishing Industry
39.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what immediate plans he has to support the catching section of the fishing industry.
I am considering with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland what special rates of subsidy should be paid for the remainder of the year ending 31st July next.
40.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on his review of the fishing industry and announce plans for its future.
71.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to be able to make his statement about the review of the fishing industry.
As I said in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Hull, West (Mr. James Johnson) on 25th October, I hope that the review will be completed by the end of the year.—[Vol. 751, c. 504.]
65.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his policy with reference to the expansion of the inshore fishing fleet.
Since 1961 it has been the policy of successive Governments that Exchequer assistance should not result in an expansion of the inshore fishing fleet. Future policy is being considered in the current Review.
70.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimates he has made of the effects of the devaluation measures upon the fishing industry.
It is too early to make precise assessments of increases in costs, but the industry's share of the domestic market should increase and its exports should become more competitive in overseas markets.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what help he is giving the fishing industry to assist their export trade, particularly in the light of the situation following devaluation of the £ sterling.
By giving exporters higher returns in terms of sterling for sales in overseas markets, devaluation will itself assist the export trade.
Food Policy (Consumers' Views)
42.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what machinery exists within his Department to seek the views of consumers in relation to food policy.
There are regular arrangements for consulting bodies representing consumers on food standards, food additives and related subjects. My Department is always ready to discuss with such bodies as the Consumer Council any matters on which they wish to express a consumer view. There is also statutory machinery for making known the views of consumers on products covered by Agricultural Marketing Schemes and by the Meat and Livestock Commission.
Foot-And-Mouth Disease
43.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to what he attributes the recent outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease; and if he will make a statement.
So far, we have been quite unable to discover the source of the outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease in Oswestry. The virus has been typed as O1.
48.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what reappraisal he has made of the efficacy of inoculation against foot-and-mouth disease in view of the heavy cost of the present epidemic.
Vaccination does not always confer complete immunity, and regular vaccination would be very expensive. I therefore still think that a slaughter policy is the best one for this country; I am in close touch with the Animal Virus Research Institute at Pirbright which has the efficacy of vaccines constantly under review.
49.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how the total cost of the present outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease compares with the average annual value of exports of British livestock.
67.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the cost so far of slaughtering stock infected by foot-and-mouth disease.
69.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the estimated cost so far of claims in connection with the present outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease; and what amount of money has been spent upon research into a cure for the disease.
So far I have paid just over £2 million in compensation, but the total cost will be much in excess of this. It is too early, in the middle of the epidemic to estimate the total cost.The average value of livestock exports from Great Britain has been estimated to be about £14 million per year over the last three years.Research is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science. About £450,000 was spent on research at Pirbright against foot-and-mouth disease last year.
56.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now review the slaughter policy in connection with outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease; and whether he will make a statement.
Every effort is being made to contain and eradicate the disease by the most vigorous application of measures which have been applied successfully in the past. I am keeping the situation under continuous review, but I am not convinced by anything that has happened in this epidemic so far that we should change our policy.
60.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware of the financial hardship caused to farmers by his Department's Infected Area Order in Shropshire; and what financial and other help he is prepared to give where loss and damage occurs but slaughtering has not been ordered.
I appreciate the financial hardship caused to farmers not only in Shropshire but throughout Great Britain. I regret that it is not possible to compensate for such consequential losses.
66.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has from the Food and Agriculture Organisation about the system under which foot-and-mouth disease is controlled in other countries, including the United States of America; and what evidence is in his possession that large scale outbreaks of the disease have been prevented by the rigid control of imported meat.
In general, those countries where the disease is not endemic, and which are not contiguous with other countries where the disease exists, rely entirely on the slaughter policy if outbreaks should occur. The United States of America is one such country. These countries either prohibit the importation of meat or permit it only from countries that are free from foot-and-mouth disease. I have no evidence that the absence of large-scale outbreaks is attributable to the rigid control of meat imports but it must obviously be a material factor.Other countries control the disease either by vaccination and movement controls, or by a combination of vaccination and slaughter.
72.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will revert to the previous practice by which meat from abroad was imported into this country off the bone.
Meat from abroad was imported into this country off the bone during the war in order to economise in shipping space, and not as a disease control measure. Even if the hon. Member's suggestion were adopted, there would still be a risk from the foot-and-mouth disease virus, which can survive several months in parts of chilled and frozen carcases other than bone marrow.
73.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied with the procedures for the inspection of chilled or frozen meat coming into this country from abroad; and if he will make a statement.
Chilled and frozen meat imported into this country comes only from approved overseas establishments where both post-mortem and ante-mortem veterinary inspections are carried out. The exporting countries are either those known to be free from the more virulent animal diseases or those where safeguards are practicable and have been agreed to by the authorities there. Meat from countries in this second category has to be accompanied by veterinary certification.Her Majesty's Government are considering whether these safeguards are adequate.
74.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the present epidemic of foot-and-mouth disease and the recommendation of the veterinary officers to farmers that no farmers' meetings be held even in unaffected parts of England till the epidemic is controlled, he will now recommend the cancellation of the Smithfield Show.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave yesterday to the hon. and learned Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson).—[Vol. 755. c. 70.]
75.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the average delay between veterinary diagnosis of foot-and-mouth disease in cattle, his department's confirmation, and the final slaughter of the affected beasts during the present outbreak.
In most cases confirmation is given immediately on the telephone and affected animals are slaughtered as quickly as possible thereafter, usually in a matter of hours.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what stocks of foot-and-mouth disease vaccine are held in this country; and if he will estimate how long it would take to acquire vaccine sufficient to vaccinate all cloven-footed animals in the country.
There are about 1 million doses of all types in this country. The answer to the second part would depend upon any vaccination policy that was decided upon. But, as I said in reply yesterday to my hon. Friend the Member for Farnworth (Mr. Thornton), I have taken steps for a sufficient supply of vaccine to be acquired and stored in this country to enable a vaccination programme to be adopted as a second line of defence should this become inevitable.—[Vol. 755, c. 70–1.]
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how soon after vaccination an animal acquires an immunity to foot-and-mouth disease.
The immunity given by modern vaccines increases up to 14 days after vaccination when a satisfactory level of protection is established. But this is subject to several qualifications. Young calves are not protected; in other cattle immunity may vary between individual animals and in differing conditions such as weight of virus challenge; vaccinated animals which have contact with the virus may become symptomless carriers; in pigs vaccination is less effective; and vaccine prepared from one type of virus will not protect against another.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has established that there is any link between all the most recent epidemics of foot-and-mouth disease; and whether they were all of the same type.
The virus in the outbreak in Northumberland in 1966, and in Hampshire and Warwickshire this year were of the same type as in the current epidemic. The time that has elapsed between these outbreaks is such that any link is impossible.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the result of his inquiries into the main causes and agencies by which the recent outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease was spread.
An epidemiological study of the current epidemic has been in progress for some weeks and I await the findings.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what consideration he has given to the proposal that, upon an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease, immediate vaccination of all beasts within an area of 20 miles shall take place to create an epidemic break.
This has been examined in the past, but a simple slaughter policy has been found in general more effective. Nothing that has happened in the present epidemic so far has caused me to change my view that a slaughter policy is most effective.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what comparison he has made, from international sources, of the outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease in Great Britain in recent years with those of other European and Western countries, including Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
The number of outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease in Great Britain as compared with those in other countries during recent years is as shown below:—
| 1965 | 1966 | |
| Great Britain | 1 | 34 |
| Argentina | 4,286 | 5,225 |
| Brazil | 176 | 205 |
| Uruguay | 67 | 259 |
| U.S.A | Nil | Nil |
| Canada | Nil | Nil |
| Australia | Nil | Nil |
| New Zealand | Nil | Nil |
| South Africa | 5 | Nil |
| Austria | 30 | 22 |
| Belgium | 112 | 323 |
| Bulgaria | 1 | 5 |
| Czechoslovakia | 41 | 4 |
| Denmark | 2 | 39 |
| Finland | Nil | Nil |
| West Germany | 15,942 | 4,689 |
| France | 10 | 59 |
| Greece | 176 | 1 |
| Hungary | 58 | 1 |
| Italy | 5,840 | 1,552 |
| Netherlands | 1,426 | 2,194 |
| Northern Ireland | Nil | Nil |
| Irish Republic | Nil | Nil |
| Poland | 39 | 3 |
| Portugal | 770 | 17 |
| Roumania | 4 | 1 |
| Sweden | Nil | 1 |
| Switzerland | 670 | 321 |
| Turkey | 3,901 | 700 |
| Yugoslavia | 115 | 17 |
| Spain | (73,806)* | 1,202 |
*This figure is the number of animals affected. | ||
Fruit And Vegetables (Grading)
41.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will take steps by legislation or otherwise to provide for the grading of fruit and vegetables before retailing.
Not at present.
Pigs (Processed Swill)
44.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the proportion borne by processed swill to all other forms of feedingstuffs used in the production of pigmeat; and whether, in view of the risk of foot and mouth disease, he is satisfied that no unprocessed swill is being fed.
It is estimated that on a starch equivalent basis the quantities of swill used amount to about 2 per cent. of total requirements.Swill has to be boiled before being fed to farm livestock. Enforcement is the responsibility of local authorities, and I have recently reminded them of the importance of strict enforcement. If the hon. Member has any evidence of contraventions I shall be glad to look into it.
Farmers (Electricity)
45.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the additional cost to farmers of the recent increases in the price of electricity.
About £21 million in a full year.
European Economic Community
47.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has made of the annual cost to Great Britain of accepting the two-pre-negotiation conditions for entry into the Common Market officially proposed by France, namely, that Great Britain must accept the Market system of levies on cheap food imports from outside and that France must be guaranteed 90 per cent. of the levies received.
I am not aware that France has attempted to set these as pre-conditions for a negotiation. However, I have previously estimated the cost to the balance of payments of accepting the E.E.C.'s agricultural arrangements as they stand at £175 million-£250 million.
Officials (Farm Land And Buildings)
50.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will circularise all statutory bodies whose officials have rights of entry to farm land or buildings, and advise them of the national importance of not exercising such rights except by agreement with the farmer during outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease and any similarly contagious diseases.
My officials have already been in touch with the statutory bodies mainly concerned. They have agreed to defer all but essential and urgent work in infected areas, and to take all reasonable precautions in controlled areas.
Cyclamates
51.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names and descriptions of the experts who advised him about the safety of cyclamates; and whether he will place their reports in the Library.
Yes. My right hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health are advised by the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee and the Pharmacology Sub-Committee, and the names and descriptions of the members are given below. Copies of the reports on cyclamates have been placed in the Library.
Members Of The Food Additives And Contaminants Committee
Chairman
- Professor R. A. Morton, F.R.S., Ph.D., D.Sc., F.R.I.C.—lately Johnston Professor of Biochemistry, University of Liverpool.
Members
- R. De Giacomi, F.R.I.C.—Editor of Food Processing and Marketing.
- H. Egan, B.Sc., Ph.D., D.I.C., F.R.I.C.—Superintendent, Food and Drugs Divisions of the Laboratory of the Government Chemist.
- N. Goldenberg, B.Sc., M.Sc., F.R.I.C., F.R.S.H.—Technical Executive, Marks & Spencer Ltd.
- J. H. Hamence, B.Sc., M.Sc., Ph.D., F.R.I.C., F.C.S.—Consultant Chemist and Public Analyst, Past President of the Association of Public Analysts.
- Professor J. Hawthorn, B.Sc., Ph.D., A.R.C.S.T., F.R.I.C., F.R.S.E.—Professor of Food Science at the University of Strathclyde, Glasgow.
- H. Jasperson, B.Sc., Ph.D., F.R.I.C.—Head of Research Department, Bibby and Sons Ltd., Liverpool.
- Professor A. Kekwick, M.A., M.B., B.Ch., F.R.C.P.—Director of Institute of Clinical Research and Experimental Medicine, Middlesex Hospital.
- Mrs. Patricia P. Scott, B.Sc., Ph.D.—Reader of Physiology at the Royal Free Hospital. Medical School.
- W. M. Shortt, O.B.E., M.Sc., F.R.I.C.—Formerly Principal Scientific Officer of the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. Lately Joint Secretary, Food Additives and Contaminants Committee.
- Professor R. T. Williams, F.R.S., B.Sc., Ph.D., D.Sc.—Professor of Biochemistry, St. Mary's Hospital, Medical School, London.
Members Of The Pharmacology Sub-Committee
Chairman
Professor A. Kekwick, M.A., M.B., B.Ch., F.R.C.P.—Director of the Institute of Clinical Research and Experimental Medicine, Middlesex Hospital.
Members
- Professor E. Boyland, D.Sc., Ph.D.—Professor of Biochemistry, Chester Beatty Research Institute.
- Professor G. Brownlee, D.Sc., Ph.D.—Professor of Pharmacology, King's College, London, S.E.5. Director, National Poisons Information Service, Guy's Hospital.
- R. Goulding, M.D., B.Sc., M.R.C.P.—Principal Medical Officer of Health, Ministry of Health.
- E. I. Johnson, M.Sc., F.R.I.C.—Deputy Government Chemist.
- J. M. Johnston, C.B.E., M.D., F.R.C.S. (Ed.), F.R.S. (Ed.), F.R.C.P. (Ed.)—Principal Medical Officer, Scottish Home and Health Department.
- P. N. Magee, M.B., B.Ch., M.R.C.S., L.R.C.P.—Member of Medical Research Council Toxicology Research Unit.
- F. J. C. Roe, D.Sc., M.A. (Oxon), D.M., B.M., B.Ch., M.C.Path.—Reader in Experiment of Pathology, Chester Beatty Research Institute.
55.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in view of the statement issued by the British Diabetic Association that diabetics should not consume more than three grams of cyclamate sweeteners a day, a copy of which has been sent to him, he will take steps to ensure that the amount of cyclamate sweetener used in any solid or liquid foodstuff is clearly indicated on the label.
No. The Food Additives and Contaminants Committee took full account of the position of diabetics. My right hon. Friend is satisfied that there are no grounds for treating cyclamates differently from other permitted food additives in regulations about labelling.
57.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the procedure followed by his Department in assessing the safety of cyclamates and other food additives, both in isolation and in relation to each other.
Yes, I have so arranged. The details are as follows:—1. It is the practice of my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health and my right hon. Friend, when wishing to have an appraisal of the possible toxicity of any additive used or proposed for use in food, to seek the advice of the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee.2. That body in conjunction with the Pharmacology Sub-Committee then examines all the data which are available both in this country and internationally on the use of the substance, taking into account both the need for such a substance to be used in food, the extent to which research into its possible toxicity has been carried out and an evaluation of such research and its findings. In due course the reports by the two bodies together with their recommendations are made to the Minister of Health and my right hon. Friend and to their colleagues responsible for such matters in Scotland and Northern Ireland. The reports and recommendations take into account the total use of the additive and its possible interaction with other additives and constituents of the human diet. A detailed description of the procedure is contained in the "Memorandum on Procedure for Submissions on Food Additives and on Methods of Toxicity Testing" published by H.M.S.O. in 1965.
3. As a general rule, the Committees' reports are published by H.M.S.O., except when the matter is urgent or of only limited interest, when copies are duplicated and are available from the Department. At that stage, comments on the report and its recommendations are invited from interested parties.
4. In the light of the Committees' recommendations and the comments received upon them, the Department after consultation with the Ministry of Health and the responsible departments in Scotland and Northern Ireland advises my right hon. Friend on the need for control over the use of that particular additive in food.
5. If my right hon. Friend accepts their advice and this necessitates legislation under the Food and Drugs Act, 1955, he arranges—as he is required to do under the Act—for organisations representative of the interests which would be affected by such legislation to be consulted about the proposed controls.
Dogs And Cats (Quarantine)
52.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many dogs were in quarantine during 1966–67; and how many of these dogs developed rabies whilst under observation.
During 1966, 3,365 dogs passed through quarantine. In the first ten months of 1967 about 3,200 dogs have been placed in quarantine. None developed rabies whilst in quarantine.
53.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now take steps to reduce the period of quarantine for cats and dogs from six months to three months.
No. The present arrangements have kept the country free from rabies for 40 years and should be maintained.
Farmers (Selective Employment Tax)
58 and 59.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will extend beyond 28 days the time within which a farmer must register a claim for repayment of Selective Employment Tax following the employment of a farmworker;
(2) how many farmers failed to register as claimants for the repayment of Selective Employment Tax within the specified period of 28 days; and what is the estimate of the amount of money that is being withheld from these employers as a result.
There is no specified period during which a farmer must register. Our divisional offices have discretion to back-date a registration for 28 days. Two hundred and twenty applications for back-dating for longer than 28 days, involving some £10,000, have been refused.
Food Additives And Contaminants (Research)
54.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what research laboratories' resources are now available to the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee.
I have nothing to add to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member on 15th February.—[Vol. 741, c. 596.]
Northern Ireland Agriculture (Bank Charges)
61 and 64.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what will be the additional costs to Ulster agriculture due to the Government's economic measures announced on 18th November;(2) if he will estimate the extra bank charges which will be incurred by the agriculture industry in Northern Ireland in a full year as a result of the eight per cent. Bank Rate.
The increase in Bank Rate might raise the cost of bank credit to agriculture in Northern Ireland in a full year by about £270,000, of which about £130,000 would be on credit for current farming purposes. It is too soon to assess how the other economic measures announced on 18th November will affect agricultural costs.
Deer (West Surrey)
62.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware of the problem of the damage done by deer in West Surrey; and what steps he is taking to control the deer population in the area.
Damage resulting from wild deer straying on to enclosed land is increasing, largely because of the growth in afforestation, but is still generally slight and is not thought to be any heavier in West Surrey than in other parts of south east England. A deer control society fully equipped to undertake control is active in the area.
Meat And Livestock Commission
68.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when the Meat and Livestock Commission had their first meeting; and what recommendations have been made to him.
The Commission announced on 10th October that their first meeting had been held that day. They have not yet made any submissions to Ministers, but the Commission are independently responsible for most of their functions and it is only in specified cases that the Act provides for such submissions.
Food Imports (Higher Prices)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what revision he estimates should be made, in view of the devaluation of sterling, in the figure of £175 million to £250 million a year given by him in column 1413 of the Official Report for 9th May, 1967 as the cost to the United Kingdom balance of payments of higher food import prices and levy payments to the European Economic Community, in the event of the United Kingdom joining the European Economic Community.
It will not be possible to make any reliable revised estimate of this cost until the implications of devaluation for the levels of world commodity prices and for agricultural production and the pattern of food consumption in the U.K. become more clear.
White Fish (Minimum Price)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what discussion he is having regarding the introduction of a statutory minimum price scheme for white fish; and what Government financial support is being considered.
I have nothing to add to the reply given to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) on 21st June or the accompanying statement in the Official Report.—[Vol. 748, c. 1693–4.]
Agricultural Industry (Devaluation)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how soon he will be able to publish details of the proposed plan for the expansion of Great Britain's agriculture necessitated by devaluation.
As I said today in reply to the hon. Members for Torrington (Mr. Peter Mills), Dumfries (Mr. Monro), and Thirsk and Malton (Mr. Turton) the Government are considering the implications for agriculture of the new situation following devaluation.
Fish Imports (Devaluation)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what effect the devaluation measures will have upon the import of fish into the United Kingdom.
Devaluation will tend to discourage imports of fish because it will result in lower returns to the exporters in terms of their own currencies.
Fishmeal Industry (Devaluation)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what he estimates will be the effect of the devaluation of the £ sterling upon the fishmeal industry.
It is too soon to say, but in so far as devaluation increases the price of imported fishmeal, which accounts for about 80 per cent. of our total supplies, the home industry should benefit.
New Zealand Lamb
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he proposes to take regarding the recent rapid rise in the wholesale price of New Zealand lamb; whether he is satisfied that stocks are sufficient to avoid a shortage; what are the total stocks of meat now in store; how many days supply this represents; whether price controls have recently been considered; and whether h will make a statement.
The price of some commodities, of which lamb is one, rises and falls with changes in supply and demand; apart from any other considerations a fixed price would not normally be to the advantage of buyers. Usually any shortage of New Zealand lamb before new season's shipments arrive in mid-December is scarcely noticed because home-killed lamb is then plentiful. This year, however, the dock strike delayed and added to the transport costs of imports, and disease precautions have now made the procurement and transport to abattoirs of our own stock more difficult and expensive.Stocks of lamb in public cold stores on 24th November were about 8,000 tons and I am satisfied that with imports still to be unloaded and home-killed lamb supplies running at over 5,000 tons a week demand will be met.
Irish Meat (Supplies)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware that supplies of Irish meat to this country are to be stopped, due to lack of containers arising from the foot-and-mouth epidemic; and what action he proposes to take to remedy this.
I understand that there is no such hold-up in supplies of meat from the Irish Republic.
Scotland
Electricity Charges (Aluminium Smelting Companies)
76.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied that the Scottish electricity boards will be able to supply power at a competitive price to enable the proposed aluminium smelter to be sited in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.
I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member on 21st November.—[Vol. 754, c. 317.]
Crimes Of Violence
77.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he will take to deal with the increase in crimes of violence in Scotland.
I believe that the powers and discretions of the judiciary and the police are generally adequate, although I always willing to consider suggestions on this subject. It is not possible within the scope of a Parliamentary answer to deal adequately with my responsibilities for such matters as police strength, prison training and social services. A major Bill to be introduced this Session will enable local authorities to deal more effectively with the social factors contributing to crime and delinquency in the community; and I hope to encourage further experimentation in this field.
Scottish Special Housing Association
78.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many changes there have been in the Management Committee of the Scottish Special Housing Association during the last five years; and what criteria are applied when making such appointments.
Five of the seven persons who were members in 1962 have since given place to others. In choosing new members the criterion is their potential contribution to the work of the Association.
79.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps his Department has taken to advise the Scottish Special Housing Association that domestic solid fuel appliances should have fair consideration in their housing programmes, particularly in mining areas.
None. The Association takes account of all relevant considerations in determining the most appropriate form of heating for any housing development.
Unemployment
80.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will instruct the Scottish Development Department to undertake a comprehensive study of the reasons for the current acceleration of unemployment in Scotland above the national trend.
Since July, 1966 unemployment in Scotland has risen at a much less rapid rate than the national total and over the past three months the seasonally corrected trend has been downward.
Sport And Physical Recreation
81.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of the sums he is making available from public funds for North-East Scotland for physical education and recreation, indicating the kinds of physical education and recreation in each with particular reference to swimming and sailing during each of the last five years.
The following are the capital grants offered in respect of sport and physical recreation projects in North-East Scotland (Aberdeen City and the Counties of Aberdeen, Banff, Kincardine, Moray and Nairn):1962–63£1,900 for 2 sports pavilion projects.1963–64£500 for 1 playing field project.1964–65£925 for 1 golf project.1965–66£8,538 for 3 golf projects.£510 for 1 angling project.1966–67£3,125 for 2 bowling projects.£1,000 for 1 cricket project.—150 for 1 playing field project.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made, and is being made, through central and local government action, in extending and improving the facilities for sport and recreation in Scotland.
Between 1964–65 and 1966–67 Government grants to national and local voluntary bodies and district councils for sport increased from £137,000 to £291,000 and for recreation from £213,000 to £291,000. In the same period capital expenditure by education authorities and local authorities on sport and recreation increased from £3·1m. to £3·5m.The Sports Council for Scotland was set up in 1966 to promote a properly balanced improvement and extension of facilities for sport and physical recreation to meet local and Scottish needs. In co-operation with the Sports Council it will advise the Government on how further progress can be made.
Tourist Industry
82.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he will take to assist the development of the tourist industry in Scotland, in view of the extra costs to the industry arising from the measures connected with devaluation.
Devaluation will increase the relative attractiveness of holidays in Scotland both to our own people and to visitors from abroad. The Government are making a grant of £300,000 towards the cost of the British Travel Association's special "Holiday-in-Britain" campaign this winter; the Highlands and Islands Development Board is also mounting a campaign; and the Scottish Tourist Board is fully associated with both.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to assist the tourist industry, in view of the additional costs of touring abroad.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave today to the hon. Member for Moray and Nairn (Mr. G. Campbell).
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will now review the procedure for holding licensing veto polls in Scotland, in view of their potential damage to the tourist industry; and whether he will make a statement.
No.
Agricultural Industry
84.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the additional cost to agriculture in Scotland of the higher prices to be paid for imported fertilisers resulting from devaluation of the £ sterling.
It is not yet possible to estimate with any degree of precision how devaluation might affect the prices paid by farmers for fertilisers or the additional cost to agriculture in Scotland.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what will be the additional costs to Scottish agriculture of the Government's economic measures announced on 18th November.
I cannot yet estimate how far overall costs to Scottish agriculture will be affected by the measures announced on 18th November.
Fishing Industry
83.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he will take to offset the higher costs to the fishing industry in Scotland caused by the measures connected with devaluation.
While the industry may face some further rise in fuel costs, devaluation should increase the home fishing industry's share of the domestic market and should help the industry to export its products.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he has taken since 25th October to provide a subsidy to the Scottish trawler fleet to offset the cost of the surcharge on oil prices as requested by the Scottish Trawlers Federation on 1st July, 1967; and when the subsidy will be paid.
A claim recently submitted by the Scottish Trawlers Federation for supplementary subsidies for Scottish trawlers is being considered.
Housing
85.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage increase in the cost of Scottish houses he estimates will take place, on account of the price rise of imported timber used in their construction, as a result of devaluation of the £ sterling.
About 1 per cent.
86.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his latest estimate of house completions for 1967; and how this figure compares with those of 1957 and 1963.
There are over 55,000 houses under construction, and I cannot say precisely how many will be completed by the end of December: but up to the end of October this year 31,311 houses have been completed by all agencies, compared with 25,851 and 21,366 in the same periods of 1957 and 1963, respectively.
Planning Appeals (Members Of Parliament)
88.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will in future notify his decisions on planning appeals to the Member of Parliament in whose constituency the locus of each appeal lies.
Not in all cases, but I will continue to notify hon. Members of decisions on appeals in cases about which they have approached me.
Farms (Sales)
87.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many farms in Scotland over 1,000 acres have been sold in 1967 and at what price.
I regret that information for 1967 is not yet available.
Local Authority Expenditure
89.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the effect on the estimates of local authority expenditure for 1968–69 of the Government's latest financial measures.
No. Much relevant information is not yet available.
Secondary Schools (Contracts)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why the £5 million scheme by his Department for extensions to secondary schools in Scotland was given to an English firm without giving Scottish local contractors, particularly contractors in development areas, an opportunity of tendering for the work and without giving Scottish professional men, technicians and workmen an opportunity of carrying out the work.
I am writing to my hon. and learned Friend about the allocation of the services contract for this programme.
Buildings Of Historic And Architectural Merit (Edinburgh)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of all the buildings in Edinburgh that are officially listed as being of historic or architectural merit and which to his knowledge either have been or still are the subject of planning applications for major structural alteration or demolition for site redevelopment.
The information requested is as follows:
- 21–22 St. Andrew Square and 1–5 North St. David Street.
- 32–35 St. Andrew Square.
- 2 and 3 Queen Street and 2–12 North St. David Street.
- 82–84 George Street.
- 114–116 George Street.
- 107 George Street and 37 North Castle Street.
- 139–143 George Street.
- 64 Princes Street.
- New Club, Princes Street.
- Life Association Building. 81–83 Princes Street.
- 15–16 Abercromby Place.
- Warriston House.
Association Of Teachers Of Russian (Representations)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has had from the Association of Teachers of Russian, Scottish Branch, regarding the teaching of Russian in comprehensive schools; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what reply he has sent to the letter of 20th November from the Scottish Branch of the Association of Teachers of Russian asking for further facilities by his Department for the teaching of the Russian language; and what steps he plans to take in that direction on the recommendations of the Annan Committee Report 1962.
I have received representations from the Scottish Branch of the Association of the Teachers of Russian about the teaching of languages in comprehensive schools. The Association fears that French will be the only language taught in the early years of comprehensive schools. I have told the Association that it is not my view that the only foreign language to be taught in the first two years of the school course should be French. My Department will continue to do what it can to encourage the teaching of Russian.
Technical Teachers
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what steps he intends to take to get more technical teachers into the colleges; what he intends lo do about training teachers of technical subjects; and if he will make a statement;(2) if, in view of the difficulties in getting technical teachers, he will implement the recommendation of the Scottish Council Working Party report on the future training of technical teachers; and if he will make a statement.
I am considering the recruitment and training of technical teachers in the light of the Working Party report and of the diverse comments I have had on it from the various interested bodies. The problem is a complex one, and I have no statement to make at present.
Secondary Schools (Russian Language)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what provision is being made for the teaching of Russian in the first and second years in comprehensive secondary schools.
It is for education authorities (and other managers of schools) to decide what subjects shall be taught in their schools and at what stage they shall be introduced. My Department will continue to do what it can to encourage the teaching of Russian.
Sewage Plants
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that the provision of new sewage plants is being delayed by the inability of small local authorities to meet the capital expenditure involved; and whether he will seek powers in future legislation to enable voluntary combination of separate drainage authorities.
Powers of combination for this purpose are available tinder the Public Health (Scotland) Act, 1897 and the Local Government (Scotland) Act, 1947. If my hon. Friend has any particular difficulty in mind, perhaps he will let me know.
Ministry Of Defence
Defence Staffs (Costs)
90.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has completed his review of the costs of British defence staffs, including attaches and assistant attachés, other staff and scientific staff in British embassies and High Commission offices throughout the world; and what saving he estimates will be made in this item of expenditure by 1969–70.
These costs are always under review. My right hon. Friend hopes to save some £100,000 by 1969–70.
Hms "Victorious"
91.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is to be the future of H.M.S. "Victorious".
As I have already announced, H.M.S. "Victorious" will be paid off as soon as possible and disposed of for scrap.
Docks (Use Of Troops)
92.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what notice is required to be given before troops can be available for work in the docks.
It depends on circumstances, but not more than a few days notice would usually be needed.
Aldabra
94.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the decision to cancel, or postpone, the construction of a military staging post on Aldabra island was taken after consultation with the United States, and in agreement with them; and if the decision has been taken on military, economic or scientific grounds.
The Answer to the first part of the question is "Yes"; the Answer to the second is that the decision was taken on a combination of grounds, in which the economic factor was predominant.
United States Military Equipment (Cost)
93.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is now the outstanding cost, showing interest separately, of United States arms and military equipment on order, showing in tabular form the years in which repayments are due to be made with comparative figures immediately before devaluation.
The outstanding cost to my Department of United States military equipment on order at the time of devaluation totalled £615 million. Of this sum about £32 million is due to be paid in the current financial year. Figures for interest are respectively £103 million and £3 million. These figures at pre-devaluation rates are respectively £527 million, £28 million, £88 million and £2·6 million. I am not prepared at this stage to give figures for 1968–69, or for subsequent years.
Polaris Submarines
95.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he estimates to be the total cost of each of the three Polaris submarines, other than the "Resolution".
£52 million.
United States Aircraft
96.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what reconsideration he has given to the decision to purchase F111 and other military aircraft from the United States of America in the light of the increased dollar cost of this aircraft, and of the rapid withdrawal of this country from commitments East of Suez, the strategic area for which the aircraft was intended.
The broad lines of our defence policy remain as set out in the Supplementary Statement on Defence Policy, 1967 (Cmnd. 3357) and, apart from the Chinook helicopter, which has been cancelled, no change is being made in our purchases of United States aircraft.
Royal Air Force (Redundant Pilots)
98.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give details of the large scale redundancies of Royal Air Force pilots expected in the course of the next few years.
Some 300 pilots, just over two thirds of whom are officers and almost all of whom are volunteers are expected to become redundant in the period from publication of the Supplementary Statement on Defence Policy, 1967 up to the end of 1968. This is rather more than half the total number expected to become redundant in the whole period from July, 1967 to April, 1971.
Dartmoor Exercise (Deaths)
97.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress he has made in the investigation of the deaths of two officer cadets from Mons on an exercise on Dartmoor; and whether he will now make a statement on what precautions he will take to ensure that such an incident does not occur again.
I expect to receive soon the report of the Army board of inquiry. After considering it, I will make a statement.
Royal Naval Propellant Factory, Caerwent
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what rate resources will arise from the site at Caerwent taken over by the United States Air Force.
The amount is not yet known, but I will write to the hon. Member.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in view of the difficulty of finding suitable job opportunities for young people locally, he will make provisions for a limited number of school-leavers to be given apprenticeships to serve the skills required on the site at Caerwent taken over by the United States Air Force.
This is a matter for the U.S. authorities, but I will make sure that the point is drawn to their attention.
Unrequired Land
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the changes of Government policy in respect of offering land no longer required for defence purposes back to the original owners.
In accordance with the policy announced by the then Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries in the House of Commons on 20th July, 1954, each case is considered on its merits. If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind, perhaps he would write to me.
1St The Queen's Dragoon Guards (Pamphlet)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the price paid to Gesamtherstellung Möseler Wolfenbüttel in Germany for printing the illustrated pamphlet concerning 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards which has been distributed for recruiting purposes in Wales.
The cost was £30; the pamphlet is a reprint of one printed at regimental expense by the same firm several years ago when the unit was stationed in Germany.
British Jungle Warfare School
asked the Secretary of State for Defence why United States personnel are trained at the British Jungle Warfare School in Johore, Malaya; and whether such training is for the Vietnam war.
There is a long-established and mutually beneficial practice of co-operation between the British and United States services in the defence field, including attendance at each other's training courses. Jungle warfare training is provided for a small number of United States personnel who subsequently serve in Vietnam.
Raf Staff College (Candidates' University Courses)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the cost to public funds of the short courses arranged at universities and any other assistance given to Royal Air Force candidates for the qualifying examination for the Staff College in the period of 12 months prior to the establishment of the Individual Studies School, Bracknell, Berkshire and what was the cost to public funds of the Individual Studies School at Bracknell for the last convenient period of 12 months.
For the period 1st January, 1965 to 31st December, 1965, the cost o public funds of the university courses arranged for Royal Air Force candidates for certain parts of the qualifying examination for the Staff College was approximately £51,700, of which some £42,000 represented the cost of the pay, allowances and travelling expenses of the officers detached to these courses. For the 12 months ending 31st October, 1967, the cost of the Individual Studies School was £45,000. In addition to preparing officers for entry to the Staff College, this school also prepares officers for staff appointments and will ultimately provide the basis of selection for the Staff College.
Shipping
Grain Vessels
99 and 100.
asked the Minister of Transport (1) what estimate she has made of the size of vessel now to be used for the supply of bulk grain to European ports;(2) what plans she has to develop grain terminals in the United Kingdom to receive vessels in excess of 200,000 dead weight tons.
My right hon. Friend has no powers to initiate port development; this is the responsibility of port authorities in consultation with users. The new grain terminals which my right hon. Friend has authorised at Tilbury and Liverpool (Seaforth) are designed to handle vessels up to 65,000 dwt. but as stated in the reply given to the hon. Member on 27th April my right hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food will be glad to consider any further views about the future pattern of the trade which the major grain importers wish to put forward.
Transport
Public Transport (Christmas Holiday)
101.
asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of the effects of the Road Safety Act on private motorists, she will introduce emergency legislation to prevent public transport undertakings making complete withdrawal, which would be against the public interest, of public service vehicles on Christmas Day and Boxing Day.
No. Holiday services are a matter for the management of each public transport undertaking to decide in the light of their local knowledge. But operators have been reminded that the demand for such services may be higher this year than previously.
St Boswells-Kelso Bus Service
106.
asked the Minister of Transport (1) on what date she wrote to British Railways indicating that the St. Boswells-Kelso bus service should be discontinued; and why she did not inform the hon. Member for Roxburgh, Selkirk and Peebles, whose constituents will be adversely affected, of her decision;(2) whether in future she will notify any Member of Parliament concerned when she takes a local transport policy decision directly affecting the interests of his constituents.
My right hon. Friend gave her consent to the withdrawal of the Monday to Friday rail replacement bus service on 26th October because it was hardly used. The normal Saturday service is unaffected. We have since received suggestions that a service might be needed on one other weekday, and have told the hon. Member that we will see if this can be given a trial.It would not, I am afraid, be practicable to notify hon. Members of every transport decision affecting their locality, though we try to do so whenever a particular interest has been expressed. The Transport Users Consultative Committee have, I understand, followed their normal practice of notifying the principal objectors to the original rail closure proposal.
Windscreen Washers
107.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce legislation, in the interest of road safety, to make it compulsory for all vehicles to be fitted with windscreen washing systems.
Draft regulations have been considered by interested organisations and the regulations will shortly be made.
Swanage And Corfe
asked the Minister of Transport when, in view of the size of the tourist population in Swanage and Corfe and the already inadequate transport conditions in that area, she proposes to announce her plans for improved transport by rail or by road for the travelling public.
Rail services to Dorset have recently benefited from the electrification of the line as far as Bournemouth. Dorset County Council is responsible for road improvements in the area, and my right hon. Friend has recently agreed to the inclusion in the announced principal road preparation list of a £1 million by-pass for Wareham.
Railways
British Railways Board (Members)
102.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will state the number of members of the British Railways Board from Scotland on 1st November, 1963 and 1967, with the reason for any increase or decrease.
Six in 1963 and three in 1967. The membership of the Board is decided on various grounds, and no specific reason can be given for any particular variation.
103.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will state the number of members of the British Railways Board and each regional railways board with trade union experience as at 1st November, 1963 and 1967, with the reason for any increase or decrease.
For the British Railways Board, the figures are two in 1963 and three in 1967.Each Regional Board had one such member on both dates, except for the then North Eastern Region in 1963 and the Eastern Region in 1967.The membership of the Boards is decided on various grounds, and no specific reason can be given for any particular variation.
asked the Minister of Transport if on the retirement of Mr. Frank Donachy from the British Railways Board on 3rd December it is her intention that he should be succeeded by another Scottish trade unionist.
Mr. Donachy's term of office expires on 31st December. In making new appointments my right hon. Friend will of course comply with Section 1(3) of the Transport Act, 1962, but my hon. Friend will understand that there is no statutory requirement to appoint to the Board any particular number of either Scots or Trade Unionists.
asked the Minister of Transport. following the recommendations of the Joint Steering Group for the composition of the new British Railways Board, which have been accepted by Her Majesty's Government as stated in the White Paper on Railway Policy, what proposals she has regarding the specific provision in the 1947 and 1962 Transport Acts for the appointment of members with trade union experience and a knowledge of Scottish interests; and to what extent this provision will be affected by the proposal to abolish regional railways boards.
None. The proposal to abolish Regional Railway Boards will not affect the provisions relating to the main Board.
British Rail (Mr N J Macmillan)
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement on the inquiries made of Mr. N. J. Macmillan, during the visit of the Parliamentary Secretary to Canada, as to whether he would consider accepting the position of Chairman of British Rail.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer which I gave him on 23rd November when I described the purpose of my hon. Friend's visit.—[Vol. 754, c. 432.]
Wareham—Swanage Line (Closure)
asked the Minister of Transport from how many persons and bodies living in the Isle of Purbeck she has received representations consequent upon the issuing of advance notice of the proposed closure of the Wareham—Swanage branch line.
We have received letters from seven bodies in the area. The hon. Member knows of the resolution passed at a public meeting in Swanage of which he sent us a copy. We have noted the contents.
Superannuation Benefits
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement on the position of railway superannuitants in view of the proposals contained in the White Paper on Railway Policy.
It will be for the British Railways Board to decide, in the light of the proposals in the White Paper, whether to make any change in their present policy for supplementing railway superannuation benefits.
Sir Thomas Yates And Mr James Haworth (Replacement)
asked the Minister of Transport if the persons proposed to her by the British Railways Board to replace Sir Thomas Yates and Mr. James Haworth as members of the regional railways boards on their retirement on 3rd December, 1967 have experience of organisation of workers.
The present terms of these members expire on 31st December, 1967, and there have been no proposals from the Railways Board about new appointments.
Ports
Lighterage And Towage Undertakings
104.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will make a statement on the future of the Thames lighter-age industry arising from the projected Regional Ports Authority.
In a working document on ports reorganisation which my right hon. Friend circulated for comments in July, she proposed that, whilst lighter-age and towage undertakings, other than those owned by port authorities, should not be included in the initial scheme of nationalisation, the regional port authorities should have a duty to review lighter-age and towage arrangements and requirements and be empowered to propose the takeover of lighterage and towage assets so far as required for the efficiency of their ports. My right hon. Friend is now considering the comments she has received on these proposals.
Roads
Unfenced Roads (Sheep)
105.
asked the Minister of Transport how many sheep are killed each year on unfenced roads in England and Wales.
This information is not available.
Wareham-Corfe-Swanage Road
asked the Minister of Transport what proposals she has to widen and improve the road from Wareham to Corfe and Swanage following her approval of the proposal to close the railway stations at both the latter towns.
No formal application has yet been made to my right hon. Friend to close the Corfe Castle and Swanage Stations.Dorset County Council are the highway authority for the Wareham-Swanage road.If a formal application should be made for withdrawal of rail passenger services we will consider, with the highway authority, what road improvements might be involved.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will publish figures showing traffic densities at peak hours on the Wareham-Corfe-Swanage road in August.
There has been no official census on this length of A351 since August, 1954. Then 8,673 vehicles per 16 hour day were recorded.
Wareham Level Crossing
asked the Minister of Transport whether, in the light of the proposed closure of Swanage Railway Station and the difficulty of access to that town, she will now speed up the removal of Wareham Level Crossing.
The possible closure of Swanage Railway Station will not enable the level crossing at Wareham Station to be removed.I understand that British Railways Board and the highway and local authorities concerned are preparing plans to convert the crossing to automatic operation and to improve the road approaches; these should result in a saving of four-fifths of the road traffic delays. If they decide to go ahead, the Railways Board must apply to my right hon. Friend for an Order authorising a change of protection at the crossing. In considering any such application she will take account of all the issues involved and will certainly pay full regard to the road traffic situation.
asked the Minister of Transport on how many occasions per week the level crossing gates at Wareham are closed; what is the average length of time for which it is closed; and what, on average, is the number of motor vehicles held up at peak hours in August.
This information is not available. It would be for Dorset County Council, as highway authority, to carry out any survey of road traffic conditions at this level crossing.
Yorkshire-Lancashire Motorway
asked the Minister of Transport what is now the intended starting date for the Outlane-Calder section of the Yorkshire-Lancashire motorway.
Spring, 1969.
Board Of Trade
Timber-Using Industries (Northern Region)
108.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what are his plans for the introduction of small timber-using industries in populated rural areas of the Northern Region.
The services of the Board of Trade's Regional Offices, and the whole range of development area incentives, are available to timber-using industries wishing to set up business in the Northern Region.
Associated Chrome Chemicals Ltd, Rutherglen (Site)
109.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what action his Department is taking to encourage employment on the site recently occupied by the Associated Chrome Chemicals Limited in Rutherglen.
The Board of Trade is continuing to draw the attention of suitable firms to the facilities offered on that part of the site which is being developed as an industrial estate.
Publicly-Owned Industries (Wales)
110.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he is taking to introduce publicly-owned industries in Wales, bearing in mind the need to make use of sheet steel produced locally for manufacturing purposes, and thereby creating a more balanced and stable economic structure.
We have no such plans at present. We are prepared to use our powers under the Local Employment Acts and the Industrial Development Act to assist suitable projects.
Advance Factories
111.
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many advance factories in development areas are standing empty; what was the cost of building them; how many square feet they contain; in which areas they are located; and why he proposes to spend public money on building more before the existing factories are fully occupied.
32; about £2½ million; 590,000 square feet; 14 in the Scottish, 11 in the Welsh and 7 in the Northern England Development Area. It is sound policy to build advance factories in anticipation of demand.
Holidaymakers (British Residents)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what is his estimate of the number of United Kingdom residents who took holidays in the United Kingdom, but away from home, in the tourist year 1966–67; and how this compares with the corresponding figures for 1964–65 and 1965–66.
Sample surveys carried out by the British Travel Association suggest that in recent years about 50 per cent. of British residents aged 16 and over took holidays of four days or more away from home within the United Kingdom. The survey results are subject to sampling error and cannot measure small year to year changes.
Factory Building (Team Valley Trading Estate)
asked the President of the Board of Trade how much land remains available for further factory building on the Team Valley Trading Estate; what is the area at present being negotiated with prospective tenants; and what increased activities are being put in hand to find tenants for the land and services which remain available.
Excluding land reserved for the extension of existing factories, 179 acres of land are available for factory building, including 5 acres under negotiation with prospective tenants; we shall continue to draw the attention of industralists to the available land.
Paper And Board Industry (Scotland)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will investigate the present difficulties of the Scottish paper and board making trade; and if he will make a statement.
I am aware of the difficulties which Scottish mills have been experiencing in common with the rest of the United Kingdom paper and board industry. Their solution must lie mainly in the industry's adaptation to changed trading conditions, and I welcome the action being taken by many Scottish mills to modernise their plant and improve their productivity.
Vicuna Wool
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the threatened extinction of the vicuna, he will take steps to ban the importation of vicuna wool into this country.
Much as one may sympathise with the hon. Member's concern, I do not consider this would be an appropriate use of the Board of Trade's powers. It is our policy to impose import controls only for broad economic or commercial purposes consistently with our international obligations. Nor would the action proposed be effective. Even if our wool textile industry were prevented from obtaining this wool, there is nothing to prevent their competitors in other countries from doing so.
Tariff Preferences (Pakistan And India)
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) what estimate he has made of the loss of trade to Pakistan in each of the next five years, on the basis that the current tariff preferences enjoyed by Pakistan are phased out over a period of seven years, in accordance with the provisional agreement reached with the European Economic Community in 1962;(2) what estimate he has made of the loss of trade to India in each of the next five years, on the basis that the current tariff preferences enjoyed by India are phased out over a period of seven years, in accordance with the provisional agreement reached with the European Economic Community in 1962.
No estimate has been made since too many unknown factors, in addition to the ending of the preferences, would be involved and the result could have little meaning. However, on the basis of 1962 trade figures, 27 per cent. of all United Kingdom imports from Pakistan enjoy preference, compared with a little over half from India. On the basis of 1964 trade figures, about two-thirds of our imports from Pakistan, and about half of our imports from India, would be duty free under the Common External Tariff.
Bentley Colliery
asked the President of the Board of Trade in view of the proposed closure of Bentley Colliery, what plans he is making to ensure that alternative employment is available for the work-people displaced.
In considering applications for industrial development certificates we will take into account any loss of existing employment opportunities should Bentley Colliery close.
British Travel And Holidays Association
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of devaluation, he will give a direction to the British Travel and Holidays Association to intensify the promotion of British tourism, particular in America, in view of the prevailing unrest in the Middle East.
There will be no need to direct them: the Association have spontaneously assured me of their intention to take full advantage of the opportunities for promotion of tourism that devaluation will present.
Oil Pollution
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will specify the steps he has taken to protect British ports, coasts and seaside resorts from oil pollution during the last six months; and what success he has had.
The laws against pollution were strengthened in May, 1967. More effective means of detection and enforcement are being urgently considered with other Governments in the Inter-Governmental Maritime Consultative Organisation.
Unidentified Flying Objects
asked the President of the Board of Trade by what authority he requires reports of unidentified flying objects from the police; and what action he takes on them.
No such reports are called for.
National Finance
Balance Of Payments
112.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the effects of the closure of the Suez Canal on the balance of payments, 1967–68.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition on 26th October.—[Vol. 751, c. 1882–4.]
113.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the effects of the Liverpool and London dock strikes on the balance of payments, 1967–68.
I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer which my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Hertfordshire, South-West (Mr. Longden) on 6th November.—[Vol. 753, c. 72.]
Export Rebate (Departmental Staff)
114.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many of the staff of his Department are at present employed in the administration of the export rebate scheme; and what reduction in the total staff of his Department will result from the abolition of the export rebate.
I would refer the hon. Member to my reply yesterday to a Written Question by the hon. Lady the Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Mrs. Knight).—[Vol. 755, c. 61.]
Sterling Balances (Devaluation)
115.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has formed of the total loss caused by devaluation to the sterling balances held by countries which were in receipt of overseas aid from the United Kingdom during the period October, 1964 to October, 1967.
Any such calculation would depend on complex assumptions about future price movements for the imports, exports and invisible transactions of each country, which are very much a matter of guesswork at the present time.
Savings
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state for 1966–67 the following approximate figures of savings, namely, net saving by private individuals, net saving by companies, net saving by pension and other such funds, net saving by nationalised industries, saving by investment grants out of taxation, Budget surplus applied to investment, and total of national saving.
Estimates of saving in 1966–67 are given below:
| £ million | |
| Personal: | |
| Life assurances and pension funds | 1,158 |
| Other personal saving | 487 |
| Companies | 3,259 |
| Public corporations | 688 |
| Central Government | 1,132 |
| Local authorities | 477 |
| Total national saving (before providing for depreciation and stock appreciation) | 7,201 |
Financial Statistics (H.M.S.O.).
Credit Facilities And Export Bonds
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what representations he has received from industry in the North-East that present credit facilities in connection with export are unsatisfactory; and what plans he has to deal with the situation;(2) what consideration he has given to the introduction of export bonds on similar lines to premium bonds to create a fund from which manufacturers could draw for export services.
I have not received but I am aware of the representations referred to. Given E.C.G.D. guarantees, and with the recent imposition of a credit ceiling from which identified export finance is excluded, present banking facilities appear to be satisfactory. I am not aware of any particular export credit difficulties in the North-East but I am always ready to look into individual cases.The introduction of export bonds would run counter to the well-established principle that particular sources of revenue including national savings must not be hypothecated for particular purposes.
Intensive Livestock Units (Rates)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the increase in cost to agriculture in a full year of the rating of intensive livestock units.
The amount of rates payable on intensive livestock units (including broiler houses) situated on agricultural holdings in England and Wales is estimated to be rather under £¼ million.
Bank Rate
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what he estimates will be the additional interest on overdrafts payable by Scottish agriculture as a result of the increase in Bank Rate.
I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer I gave to the hon. Gentlemen the Members for Perth and East Perthshire (Mr. MacArthur) and North Angus and Mearns (Mr. Buchanan-Smith) on 27th November.—[Vol. 755, c. 24–5.]
Non-Industrial Civil Servants (Recruitment)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many new recruits to the non-industrial side of the Civil Service there have been since 1st November, 1964.
Most non-industrial civil servants are initially recruited by Departments and to collect the information requested by the hon. Member would be disproportionately expensive. The total number of civil servants is published in the Monthly Digest of Statistics at quarterly intervals.
Education And Science
School Milk (Cost)
116.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the estimated net cost to the Exchequer of maintaining supplies of school milk on the same basis as existed in 1964.
£15·2 million for England and Wales in 1967–68.
National Theatre
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will arrange for a model or plans of the proposed National Theatre to be placed in the Library of the House.
I am arranging for the model together with plans and photographs of the proposed National Theatre to be placed in the Upper Waiting Hall.
Ministry Of Labour
Horticultural Industry (Training Levy)
117.
asked the Minister of Labour whether he will make a statement on the proposed training scheme levy in the horticultural industry.
The Agricultural, Horticultural and Forestry Industry Training Board has submitted to me proposals for raising a levy on all employers in the industry at the rate of £6 for each regular whole time worker employed on 5th April, 1967, with the exception of male workers over 65 and female workers over 60. I have made an order to give effect to these proposals which will be laid before the House on Friday, 1st December, 1967.
Guild Of Insurance Officials (Dispute)
118.
asked the Minister of Labour if he will make a statement about the recognition dispute between the Yorkshire Insurance Company and the Guild of Insurance Officials.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the right hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton (Mr. Turton) on 27th November.—[Vol. 755, c. 9.]
Unemployment (Yorkshire And Humberside Region)
asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of employment exchange areas in the Yorkshire and Humberside Region showing which had a percentage of unemployment above the national average, and which had a percentage below the national average, in October, 1967, giving the percentage in each case.
There are in Yorkshire and Humberside Region 56 Employment Exchanges or travel-to-work areas (comprising two or more Employment Exchange areas) for which percent age rates of employment can be calculated.Following is the information for 9th October. 1967:
| Employment Exchange or travel-to-work area | Percentage rate of unemployment |
| Thorne | 8·6 |
| Filey | 6·9 |
| Hemsworth* | 6·0 |
| Bridlington | 5·6 |
| Skegness* | 5·5 |
| Maltby | 4·7 |
| Mexborough* | 4·3 |
| Dinnington | 4·2 |
| Stocksbridge | 4·2 |
| Rotherham | 3·6 |
| Barnsley* | 3·2 |
| Normanton | 3·2 |
| Hull* | 3·1 |
| Chapeltown | 3·0 |
| Goole | 3·0 |
| Pontefract | 2·9 |
| Doncaster | 2·8 |
| Batley | 2·7 |
| Bradford* | 2·7 |
| Grimsby | 2·5 |
| Great Britain | 2·4 |
| Askern | 2·3 |
| Castleford | 2·2 |
| Gainsborough | 2·2 |
| Keighley | 2·2 |
| Todmorden | 2·2 |
| Scunthorpe | 2·1 |
| Sheffield* | 2·1 |
| Dewsbury | 2·0 |
| Leeds* | 1·9 |
| Skipton | 1·8 |
| York | 1·7 |
| Barton-on-Humber | 1·6 |
| Harrowgate | 1·6 |
| Horncastle | 1·6 |
| Louth | 1·6 |
| Barnoldswick | 1·5 |
| Wetherby | 1·5 |
| Otley | 1·4 |
| Ripon | 1·4 |
| Selby | 1·4 |
| Wakefield | 1·4 |
| Beverley | 1·3 |
| Hudderseld | 1·3 |
| Morley | 1·3 |
| Driffield | 1·2 |
| Halifax | 1·2 |
| Spen Valley | 1·2 |
| Brighouse | 1·1 |
| Tadcaster | 1·0 |
| Knottingley | 0·8 |
| Pocklington | 0·8 |
| Guisley | 0·7 |
| Hebden Bridge | 0·6 |
| Sowerby Bridge | 0·6 |
| Rothwell | 0·5 |
| Elland | 0·4 |
| *Travel-to-work area | |
Women (Wage Increases)
asked the Minister of Labour what wage increases have been awarded to women workers during the last 12 months; and to what extent these awards reduce the differential between men and women employed in similar jobs.
I regret that the information is not available in the form requested.
Banks (Dispute)
asked the Minister of Labour how many banking concerns are in dispute owing to their refusal to recognise the National Union of Bank Employees.
The National Union of Bank Employees has notified a dispute with the Committee of London Clearing Bankers whose membership comprises eleven banks. In addition, the union has notified a similar dispute with the Yorkshire Bank Limited.
asked the Minister of Labour if he will make a statement on the present dispute between the London Clearing Banks and the National Union of Bank Employees.
The National Union of Bank Employees has notified me of a dispute with the Committee of London Clearing Bankers over their demand for full recognition, national negotiating rights and immediate negotiations on their claim for a 10 per cent. increase in salaries and a 35-hour five-day week. Following the breakdown in July of talks between the Committee, the Union and the Central Council of Bank Staff Associations on the setting up of national negotiating machinery, I held discussions with representatives of the three bodies. This led me to the conclusion that there was no immediate prospect of resuming negotiations on the subject of national negotiating machinery, but that there would be opportunity for reviewing the position when the report of the Royal Commission on Trade Unions and Employers' Associations is published. I understand that a number of banks in Wales were affected by a strike called by the National Union of Bank Employees on 24th and 25th November and that the union is planning further strikes in other areas in December. I am keeping a close watch on developments. If at any time I can usefully intervene, I shall not hesitate to do so.
asked the Minister of Labour if he will refuse to appoint to Government advisory bodies directors of banking firms which do not recognise the National Union of Bank Employees.
When I appoint someone I try to choose the best man for the job. That means considering all the factors relevant to a particular appointment—no more and no less.
Weekly And Hourly Earnings
asked the Minister of Labour what are the latest available weekly and hourly earnings for men and women in industry, compared with 12 months earlier.
In the industries and services covered by the Ministry's half-yearly inquiry into the earnings and hours of manual workers, the average earnings of all full-time men and all full-time women were as follows:—
| Average Weekly Earnings | ||||||
| Men (21 years and over) | Women (18 years and over) | |||||
| £ | s. | d. | £ | s. | d. | |
| April, 1966 | 20 | 5 | 0 | 9 | 19 | 5 |
| April, 1967 (the latest available date) | 20 | 11 | 7 | 10 | 4 | 2 |
| Average Hourly Earnings | ||||
| Men (21 years and over) | Women (18 years and over) | |||
| s. | d. | s. | d. | |
| April, 1966 | 8 | 8·7 | 5 | 2·2 |
| April, 1967 (the latest available date) | 8 | 11·1 | 5 | 4·1 |
Employment
asked the Minister of Labour what is the total number of men and women in full-time insured employment in England at the present time; and what were the comparable figures for the autumns of 1965 and 1966, respectively.
The estimated numbers of employees in employment in England at March 1967, the latest date for which information is available, were 19,665,000 (12,301,000 males and 7,363,000 females). The corresponding figures for September, 1966 were 20,157,000 (12,659,000 males and 7,498,000 females) and those for September, 1965 were 20,041,000 (12,654,000 males and 7,387,000 females). The employment estimates are based on counts of National Insurance cards which do not distinguish between full-time and part-time workers.
Selective Employment Tax (Departmental Staff)
asked the Minister of Labour how many of the staff of his Department are at present employed in the administration of the Selective Employment Tax premium payments; and what reduction in the total size of his Department will result from the ending of such payments outside the development areas.
At present 380 staff deal with claims for Selective Employment Tax refund and premium payments. Only a marginal reduction of staff will result from the change referred to in the second part of the question. The firms concerned will claim refunds instead of premiums and the total number of claims dealt with will be unchanged.
Development Areas
asked the Minister of Labour how many industrial concerns in development areas have closed down or have informed him of their intention to close down in the last 12 months; how many jobs are, or will be, lost; in what areas they are situated; and what are the chief reasons for these closures and the subsequent unemployment.
Comprehensive information in the form requested is not immediately available. I will be writing to the hon. Member shortly.
Local Government
Wash Barrage Scheme
119.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he intends to initiate the Wash barrage feasibility study.
I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to questions by the hon. Members for Norfolk, South-West (Mr. Hawkins), King's Lynn (Mr. Derek Page), and Huntingdonshire (Sir D. Renton) yesterday.—[Vol. 755, c. 230–32.]
Derelict Land (Reclamation)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many acres of derelict land have been reclaimed during the last 10 years in England and in Wales, respectively.
This information is not available before 1964. Returns from local authorities, in accordance with the annual survey of derelict land begun in 1964, show that of land damaged by industrial or other development 5,778 acres wore reclaimed in England and 938 acres in Wales in the three years 1964, 1965 and 1966.
Housing
Planning Blight
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many cases of planning blight affecting homes are known to be outstanding at the latest convenient date; how many individual owners and how many individual properties are affected; in how many cases the blight has now existed for one year, for two years, or for more; and when he expects to deal with a situation which causes uncertainty, distress and hardship to the owners concerned.
The statistical information is not available. Part VIII of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1962, provides relief for owners whose property is affected by definite proposals; and local authorities have been asked to use their discretion to purchase in other cases where there is hardship.
Local Authority Rents
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he will take to stop undue rises in local authority rents as the result of the eight per cent. Bank Rate.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Alan Lee Williams) on 27th November.—[Vol. 755, c. 27.]
Ministry Of Power
Fuel Oil Surcharge (Fishing Industry)
120.
asked the Minister of Power what additional costs will fall on the fishing industry during the current financial year as a result of the surcharge on fuel oil.
If the temporary surcharge continued at its present rate for the remainder of the financial year, the additional cost to the fishing industry would be just over £1 million.
Members' Dining Room (Cold Lamb Cutlets)
asked the Lord President of the Council why cold lamb cutlets are not available in the Members' Dining Room.
I have been asked to reply.I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to a similar Question on 27th November. However, I would add that the Catering Manager is quite willing, within reason and if given twenty-four hours' notice, to satisfy the hon. Member's wish.
Economic Affairs
Prices And Incomes
asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if the criteria concerning price and income movements that command Government approval have been modified for the period of extreme moderation that follows the recent devaluation; and if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT any modification or intensification of the criteria that now represent Government policy.
The criteria for prices and incomes as set out in Cmnd. 3235 will continue to apply. As the Government have explained, increases in prices due legitimately to higher costs resulting from devaluation will be unavoidable. Such price increases cannot be regarded as justifying income increases.
Home Department
Fire Services
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what he estimates will be the saving in manpower and in salaries in the fire service in England and Wales when the present 48-hour week duty system for firemen is replaced by the 56-hour week system.
I regret that it is not possible at this stage to give a reliable estimate of what the eventual savings in manpower and salaries might be; but I have drawn the attention of fire authorities to the need to make the maximum savings commensurate with maintenance of the required standard of fire cover.
Oystercatchers (Protection)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now give complete protection to the oystercatcher, except for Section 4(2)(a) of the Protection of Birds Act, 1954.
Subject to section 4 of the Protection of Birds Act, 1954, the oystercatcher at present enjoys complete protection throughout England and Wales, save in three restricted areas where there is a need to protect local cockle fisheries, and in respect of which it is listed in Schedule 2 to the Act.
Overseas Development
Aid Expenditure
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what total sums were spent, in the period October, 1964, to October, 1967, on account of United Kingdom overseas aid to countries which, on 18th November, 1967, were holders of sterling balances.
£556 million.
Nigeria (British Nationals)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what arrangements are being made to assist British nationals employed in public or social service in the Eastern and Mid-West Regions of Nigeria, who were evacuated or unable to return to duty as a result of the hostilities in Nigeria.
Those officers who were in receipt of salary supplementations from the British Government are to receive advances from the British Government equivalent in most cases to a minimum of three months' salary. In addition, officers on contract are to receive a compensatory payment based on the unexpired portion of their contracts. Ultimately recovery of sums advanced will be sought from the Government of Nigeria. A supplementary estimate will be presented to Parliament in due course and in the meantime, advances have been sought from the Civil Contingencies Fund.
Telephone Service
Deposits
asked the Postmaster-General by what statutory authority he differentiates in the size of the deposit for installing a telephone for personal use from one customer to another.
Regulation 40 of the Telephone Regulations, 1965, gives me full discretion in this matter.
Cornwood Exchange
asked the Postmaster-General whether, in view of the expanding population and increasing demand for telephone services in the Cornwood area of Devon, and of the need for telephonic communications in this rural and geographically isolated area, he will now speed up the extension of the Cornwood Telephone Exchange.
Yes. I now expect that work will start at Cornwood Exchange in January, for completion in March.
Telephone Directories (Welsh Language)
asked the Postmaster-General what are his reasons for not ensuring that the Welsh language is used on and in the telephone directories which relate to Wales.
Directories are used outside as well as within the areas to which they relate and also by travellers and tourists. I think it desirable, therefore, that directories should be broadly on the same lines everywhere. I am also concerned about the costs which now amount to about £2½ million a year for the country as a whole.
Social Security
Unemployment Benefit
asked the Minister of Social Security when she expects to receive he report of the National Insurance Advisory Committee on the payment of unemployment benefit to those who retire before the age of 65 years.
In the course of the next few months.
Technology
Sonic Bangs
asked the Minister of Technology what has been the outcome of his study of the public's reaction to the series of sonic boom tests conducted last summer.
I shall be making a statement shortly.
Wales
Welsh Language (Books)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans he has to increase the sum paid by the Government to promote the publication in the Welsh language of books for adults.
Representatives of the Welsh Book Publishers and of other interested organisations put a case to me at a meeting on 6th October, 1967 for an increase in the present Government grant, and I promised to consider their case, in consultation with my right hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for Education and Science. We shall do so in the light of any relevant recommendations in the forthcoming report of the Central Advisory Committee for Education (Wales) and of any advice which my right hon. Friend receives from the Library Advisory Council for Wales as a result of the recommendations which will be made to the Council by its Working Party on the subject of Welsh books.
Welsh Office (Board Of Trade Functions)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many persons employed in his Department are qualified to advise him on matters relating to his Department's oversight powers with regard to the functions of the Board of Trade in Wales; and what are their respective grades.
I am pleased to say that my right hon. Friend in the exercise of his responsibilities in this field is able to rely on the full support of all branches of the Board of Trade. Liaison with them is maintained mainly by the Chairman of the Welsh Planning Board who is an Assistant Under-Secretary of State in the Welsh Office and by the members of the Economic Planning and Planning Services Divisions of the Welsh Office.