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Volume 755: debated on Thursday 30 November 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 30th November, 1967

Education And Science

British Museum

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will now make a statement of Government policy on the future of the library at the British Museum.

The functions and organisation of the British Museum Library together with those of other national libraries are to be considered by the Committee which I am setting up under the chairmanship of Dr. F. S. Dainton.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he has for relieving overcrowding at the British Museum, for providing for improved display and for further amenities for the staff and public.

Scholarship Awards And Bursaries

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he has to establish schemes for major scholarship awards and bursaries to remove differences which exist between local education authorities' schemes at the moment.

None, I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor) on 23rd October.—[Vol. 751, c. 386.]

Schools (Corporal Punishment)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) if it is his Department's policy that caning should be ended in primary schools;(2) if he will state his Department's policy regarding the caning of handicapped and maladjusted children in schools catering for such children.

A statement on this subject will be made within the next few weeks.

Sports Organisations (Capital Grant)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what amounts were paid from public funds to organisations in Northumberland for the encouragement of sport for 1965–66 and 1966–67; and if he will publish the list of organisations concerned.

Instalments of capital grant amounting to £11,489 and £5,870 were paid in 1965–66 and 1966–67 respectively against offers totalling £22,844 made to the following organisations in Northumberland:

  • Amble Cricket Club.
  • Berwick on Tweed Sailing Club.
  • Guide Post Cricket Club.
  • Hexham Boat Club.
  • Morpeth Harriers Athletic Club.
  • Newcastle Benwell Cricket Club.
  • Northumberland Gliding Club.
  • South Northumberland Cricket and Tennis Club.
  • Stamfordham Playing Fields Association.
  • Stocksfield Golf Club.
  • Tyne Amateur Rowing Club.
  • Tynedale Lawn Tennis Club.
  • Tynemouth Squash Club.
  • Whitley Bay Rockcliff Rugby Club.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of Government funds expended on the encouragement of sport throughout the country was paid to the Northern Region in 1965–66 and 1966–67.

Of the total payments of capital grant to local voluntary sports organisations in England and Wales 8·3 per cent. in 1965–66 and 7·1 per cent. in 1966–67 were made to organisations in the Northern Region.

Foot-And-Mouth Disease (Research Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much was spent last year, to the nearest convenient date, on research into the foot-and-mouth disease virus and its transmission.

At the Animal Virus Research Institute, Pirbright, in the financial year to 31st March, 1967, approximately £452,000 of which approximately £26,000 was capital expenditure.

Erring Students

asked the Secretary of Slate for Education and Science, if he will introduce legislation to limit the action of school authorities in sending home erring students and thus transferring their functions of training and teaching to the parent or the community.

National Film School

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action is being taken following the Report of the Lloyd Committee recommending the establishment of a National Film School.

I refer my hon. Friend to my reply on this subject today to my hon. Friend the Member for Wandsworth, Central (Dr. David Kerr).

Home Department

Commonwealth Immigrants

32.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of Her Majesty's Government's estimate that the 1 million coloured immigrants now in Great Britain, will increase to 1,750,000 by 1975 and to 3,500,000 by 1985, what legislation he proposes to introduce to prevent the coloured immigrants from outnumbering the white British people in the next 75 years.

As was clearly explained by my hon. Friend the Joint Parliamentary Under-Secretary in the debate on the Expiring Laws Continuance Bill, this estimate was based on assumptions made by the hon. Member which Her Majesty's Government do not accept. There is no prospect of the situation envisaged by the hon. Member arising.

33.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in view of the large and persistent unemployment and the concern that this will increase, if he will as an emergency step stop forthwith all further immigration into Great Britain, in view of its adverse effect on the unemployment position.

Juvenile Offenders (Finger Printing And Photographing)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is aware of the extensive police practice in different parts of the country of fingerprinting and photographing convicted juvenile offenders without the approval of one of the parents; and if he will introduce legislation to end this practice.

I am studying the cases brought to my attention by my hon. Friend, some of which are still being investigated, and will consider whether they reveal a need for general guidance to chief officers of police.

Horserace Betting Levy Board (Chairman's Salary)

37.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the proposed increase in salary of the Chairman of the Horserace Betting Levy Board has been referred to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

Murders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether he will categorise the type of murders committed during 1965 and 1966 which would, before the abolition of the death penalty, have been capital murders, according to whether they were by shooting, in the course of committing a felony, or under other appropriate headings;(2) what evidence is in his possession as to the cause, in cases of premeditated murder, of a change of method within the overall decrease in the number of murders committed since the abolition of the death penalty which would explain the rise in formerly capital murders.

Except where there has been a conviction of capital murder, any figures for capital murder are necessarily hypothetical. The figures in the following table include the 8 murders in 1965 that resulted in convictions of capital murder before the coming into effect on 9th November, 1965 of the Murder (Abolition of Death Penalty) Act, but otherwise are based on estimates of whether, under the Homicide Act, 1957, the offence was or would have been one of capital murder; in a number of such cases a jury might have decided otherwise.Moreover, it would be too early to attempt to draw any conclusions from the figures for the short period of total

ESTIMATED NUMBER OF CAPITAL MURDERS (ENGLAND AND WALES)
Murder in the course or furtherance of theftMurder by shootingMurder in the course of resisting arrestMurder of police officer in course of dutyMurder of prison officer in course of dutyTotal
19655242132
19661615435
NOTES: Murders are classified according to the categories used in Section 5 of the Homicide Act, 1957.Where a murder was a murder by shooting and also the murder of a police or prison officer, it is classified in the latter categories. There was 1 such case in 1965 and 3 in 1966; in all 4 cases the victim was a police officer, and the 1965 murder was committed in the course of committing a felony but not in the course or furtherance of theft.Where a murder was a murder by shooting and is also estimated to have been a murder in the course or furtherance of theft, it is classified as murder by shooting, unless it was the murder of a police or prison officer. 2 such cases were classified as murder by shooting in 1965 and 2 in 1966.There were no other cases of murder by shooting in the course of committing a felony.Of the murders by shooting, 11 in 1965 and 6 in 1966 were followed by the suicide of the suspect.
LATEST CORRECTED FIGURES OF MURDERS KNOWN TO THE POLICE AND MANSLAUGHTERS UNDER s. 2 OR S. 4 OF THE HOMICIDE ACT 1957 (ENGLAND AND WALES)
YearMurderManslaughter under s. 2 of the Homicide Act 1957Manslaughter under s. 4 of the Homicide Act 1957
1956150
1957151213
1958125272
1959141201
1960135311
196113029
196214242
196313356
196415335
196515150
196614162

abolition, and it would be impracticable to distinguish between premeditated and unpremeditated murder. The Home Office Research Unit will in due course bring up to date the information about murderers and their victims in their report "Murder".

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give in column form the number of murders committed each year since 1956 which would include those now designated as manslaughter, but which prior to the 1957 Act were still murder, and the number for 1967 to the latest convenient date.

The information requested cannot be given precisely. The Homicide Act, 1957 provided for a verdict of manslaughter, instead of murder, where the person who killed was suffering from diminished responsibility (Section 2) or was the survivor of a suicide pact (Section 4). The following table gives the figures for offences of manslaughter under these sections, together with the figures for murder, but it cannot be assumed that all the convictions of manslaughter would have been convictions of murder under the law before 1957, since the charge might then have been reduced to manslaughter because of provocation or on some other ground.

Separate figures are not available for offences reduced from murder to manslaughter under other provisions of the 1957 Act; the number of these cases is thought to be very small.

I hope to be able to give the 1967 figures next May.

Acquitted Persons (Costs)

38.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now make a statement concerning what further guidance he intends to give to the courts on the award of costs to acquitted persons.

Courts already have guidance as to the considerations which they should take into account in deciding whether to award such costs. The question which I am now considering, in the light of consultations which are not yet completed, is whether any further guidance is desirable as to the basis on which the costs should be assessed.

Police (Additional Vehicles)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what arrangements are being made for the purchase of cars for new systems of policing.

I have informed police authorities and chief officers in England and Wales that I am prepared to authorise additional expenditure during the current financial year on vehicles for new systems of policing. Most forces have sufficient local resources available for this purpose, but in some cases I have undertaken to arrange for the purchase of additional vehicles against repayment by police authorities as early as possible in the next financial year. A supplementary estimate to cover these purchases will be presented to Parliament in due course. In the meantime the necessary funds are being advanced from the Civil Contingencies Fund.

Boundary Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive the Boundary Commission's recommendations for constituency changes in England and Wales.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to an earlier Question today.

Overseas Development

Overseas Civil Servants (Pensions)

39.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether he will initiate discussions with developing countries of the Commonwealth, with a view to Great Britain taking over the pensions of ex-members of Her Majesty's Overseas Civil Service in return for a reduction in aid.

No. The responsibilities of Commonwealth Governments for the payment of these pensions and the functions of Her Majesty's Government in granting aid are separate matters.

Singapore (Dudley Mission)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development if he will state the composition of the Dudley Mission to Singapore; and whether any of its members have themselves had any industrial or business experience.

Sir Alan Dudley, a Deputy Secretary in my Ministry, was supported by officials from my Ministry, the Commonwealth Office and the Ministry of Defence, and from the British High Commission including the Senior Commercial Secretary, but no others with direct business experience. The purpose of the visit was to explore with the Singapore Government the extent and types of aid which would be required in helping to offset the economic effects of the defence rundown. The discussions were on a wholly government to government basis.

Economic Affairs

Export Bond

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what representations he has received seeking the establishment of an export bond on the same lines as premium bonds; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

The establishment of an export bond would be a matter for my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer. I have nothing to add to the reply to a similar Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Gateshead, West (Mr. Randall) on 29th November.—[Vol. 755, c. 130.]

Development Areas

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will seek to introduce an additional type of inducement to industry seeking to establish in development areas as a transitional measure to mitigate the present high Bank Rate.

No. The measures introduced on 18th November have already had regard to the special problems of Development Areas. The withdrawal of the Selective Employment Premium will not apply in these areas hence improving the differential advantage which they have from the Regional Employment Premium and banks are to continue to have regard to the Government's regional policies in their lending. Loans are available under the terms of the Local Employment Acts at moderate rates of interest.

Wages Freeze

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what undertakings he has received from the Trades Union Congress leaders to co-operate in a further wages freeze; and what undertakings he as given in return.

As my right hon. Friend explained to the House on 21st November, the Government have no intention of introducing a wages freeze. No question of undertakings therefore arises.

Cotton Textile Industry (Redundant Workers)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if the Government will introduce early legislation to give assistance to workers displaced by the rapid contraction of the cotton texile industry similar to that proposed for the coal industry.

No. The Industrial Development Certificate controls are already operated flexibly to meet the needs of areas where employment is substantially dependent on the cotton textile industry and their longer term problems will be examined by the Hunt Committee which is getting on as rapidly as possible with its work. Pending the report of that Committee my right hon. Friend will continue to watch developments in these areas closely, but there is no indication at present that their economic problems are likely to become as serious as those arising in the areas particularly affected by the coalmining manpower rundown.

Telephone Service

Victoria Exchange (Call Failures)

43.

asked the Postmaster-General when sufficient repairs will be put in hand to allow more than 70 per cent. of local calls to be correctly routed and with a ringing tone when calls are made on the Victoria Exchange in the morning.

According to our records about 5 per cent. of day-time week-day local calls on this exchange fail for technical reasons. This is poorer than the standard for London as a whole, and a special investigation is in hand.In 25 per cent. of calls the recipient does not reply, or is engaged, leaving about 70 per cent. which are completed sucessfully.

Kiosks, Gateshead (Damage And Prosecutions)

asked the Postmaster-General what is the number of telephone kiosks damaged in the county borough of Gateshead to the latest convenient date for the last 12 months; what are the comparative figures for the previous 12 months; how many prosecutions were undertaken; how many persons were found guilty; and what was the amount of the largest fine imposed.

The information is as follows:

Number of kiosks damagedNumber of offenders prosecuted, found guilty and fined
1967 (April to October)5613
Year ended
31st March, 1967653
31st March 196664Nil
The largest fine was £120.

Waiting List (Gateshead)

asked the Postmaster-General what progress has been made in meeting requests for the installation of telephones in Gateshead; what is the number at present on the waiting list; and how long he anticipates present applicants must wait till their requests have been met.

The waiting list at 31st October, 1967, was 123, compared with 306 a year ago. Of these, 5 should be connected in about one month, 21 in about three months, and the remainder in about four months.

Ruislip-Northwood Area

asked the Postmaster-General what steps he has taken since November, 1964, to improve the telephone service in Ruislip-Northwood.

Additional exchange equipment, switchboards and cables have been provided to meet the demands for telephone service in this rapidly growing area. Extensive building work to make room for extra equipment has unavoidably affected operator service in the Ruislip area over the past twelve months but is now nearly completed.Special measures are being taken to give service early in the New Year to people in Ruislip who are waiting; additional equipment in Northwood exchange is expected to be in use late in 1968.If the hon. Member has any specific difficulty in mind, I will gladly look into it.

Post Office

Postal Services (Ruislip-Northwood Area)

asked the Postmaster-General what steps he has taken since November, 1964, to improve the postal services in Ruislip-Northwood.

Though our main problem in the Ruislip and Northwood area continues to be a shortage of staff the position is better than in November, 1964, and the letter delivery service has improved.

Telegrams

asked the Postmaster-General what is the difference in the cost to the Post Office of the greeting telegram service, compared with the ordinary telegram service.

Greetings telegrams are not costed as a separate service. Extra costs over ordinary telegrams are incurred in delivering almost exclusively by hand, in providing special stationery, and in carrying out additional operating procedures.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will reduce the price of telegrams which are transmitted over the telephone.

No. A telegram message is delivered by the quickest means available, and it is a condition of service that this may be by telephone. Furthermore, a price reduction would not be practicable in a service that is losing £2 million to £3 million annually. Even a telegram delivered by telephone is unprofitable.

Local Government

British Museum Library

44.

asked the Minister or Housing and Local Government what consultations took place with the Greater London Council with regard to the amendment of the Greater London Development Plan before he came to his decision on the site of the British Museum Library.

It was for the Government to decide first whether the site still wanted for the library.Discussions with the local planning authorities about the future of the site, in the light of the Government's decision, will be held shortly.

Foreshores (Public Access)

45.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to provide for free access by bathers to all foreshores.

No. Under the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act, 1949, foreshores are already included in the definition of open country to which local planning authorities can provide access for the public by agreement, by order or by acquisition.

Bewl Valley Reservoir (Inquiry)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) if he will now announce the date for the Bewl Valley Reservoir Inquiry;(2) what consultations he has had as to the convenient date and place to hold the inquiry into the Bewl Valley Reservoir.

The Medway Water Board, the Kent River Authority and the Kent and East Sussex County Councils have been consulted but no firm arrangements can yet be made. Legislation is required to remove a doubt which arises on Section 27 of the Water Resources Act, 1963, and which affects this scheme. The question at issue is whether water undertakers who have not yet acquired the land needed for a scheme can in all circumstances make a valid application within the terms of the Section for a licence to abstract water.

Sewerage System (Brighton)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what progress is being made to provide an alternative sewerage system for Brighton and district.

I understand that the Brighton Intercepting and Outfall Sewers Board have accepted in principle recommendations by their consultants for major works of improvement and hope to consider a detailed report on phasing of the works at their January meeting.

Stansted Airport

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he proposes to start consultation with the local authorities about the realignment of the runways at Stansted Airport.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Faversham (Mr. Boston) on 28th November.—[Vol. 755, c. 232–33.]

Ministry Of Defence

Aldabra

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what saving will result from the cancellation of the Aldabra project; and how much it will be annually for the next five years.

I have nothing to add to the statement I made during the defence debate on 27th November, 1967.—[Vol. 755, c. 65–6.]

United States Military Equipment

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the outstanding cost, showing interest separately, of United States arms and military equipment on order on 8th October, 1964, showing in tabular form the years in which repayments were due to be made; how much of the total amount due remains outstanding; and by how much this amount has been increased as a result of devaluation.

About £80 million of orders outstanding on 8th October, 1964 can be identified. A decision to order the U.S.-engined Phantom for the Royal Navy and certain components for the TSR2 programme had been taken by that time although no orders had actually been placed. The value of these orders would have been about £200 million. It is not possible to say how much of this total of about £280 million would now have been outstanding had the programmes been proceeded with. Substantial additional orders would also have been required to continue with the Polaris programme.

Board Of Trade

French Wines And Spirits (Advertising Ban)

48.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will seek to ban the advertising of French wines and spirits in the United Kingdom until such time as the French Government relaxes the ban on advertising Scotch whisky in France.

No. I have no evidence to suggest that the French ban is significantly affecting our exports of Scotch whisky, which are increasing, or that a retaliatory ban by us would lead to its relaxation.

Aviation

Jp4 Fuel

asked the President of the Boa rd of Trade if he will reopen with the International Civil Aviation Organisation the question of an international agreement prohibiting the use of JP4 fuel in civil aircraft.

No new evidence of sufficient significance has emerged as to justify such action.

Stansted Airport

asked the President of the Board of Trade what consultations were held by him or his predecessor subsequent to 12th May, 1967 about a possible realignment of Stansted Airport.

The proposal to realign the runways has been discussed with the Government Departments concerned and the British Airports Authority; and will be discussed with the local authorities. The regional planning implications will be discussed with the South-East Regional Economic Planning Council.

Third London Airport

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) what cost-benefit studies have been made by his Department on the project to create the third London airport at Stansted;(2) what cost-benefit studies have been made by his Department into the possibility of siting the third London airport at Foulness;(3) what cost-benefit studies have been made by his Department into the possibility of siting the third London airport at Sheppey.

Interdepartmental work using cost benefit techniques supports the choice of Stansted as the site for the third London Airport, as compared with the other sites mentioned by the hon. Member.

Coal

Mining Manpower (Wales)

49 and 50.

asked the Minister of Power (1) whether he will give an assurance that the Welsh Regional Economic Council in their planning of Welsh employment opportunities will be free to consider a projected figure other than 9,000 as the number of miners to be employed in 1980; and what estimate he has made of the number of miners that will be employed in Wales in 1971 and 1980;(2) whether, in view of the public concern at the planning of the National Coal Board based on the assumption that the mining manpower in Wales will be reduced from its present figure of 57,400 to 39,000 in 1971 and to 9,000 in 1980, he will refuse approval to plans involving such reductions; and whether he will make a statement.

As my right hon. Friend explained to the House on 28th November the decline in manpower is an inevitable corollary of the growth of the industry's efficiency as well as the fall in demand. If efficiency is not raised and costs brought down to the extent we all hope, the loss of markets will inevitably be even faster than we anticipate. No useful estimate of manpower in 1980 can be given because the uncertainties so far ahead are too great. However, the Welsh Economic Council will I am sure, be concerned to assess the likely employment situation in Wales by 1971. Mining manpower in Wales may be about 39,000. As my hon. Friend the Minister of State for Wales indicated to my hon. Friend on 16th November, this figure is very close to that on which the calculations in the relevant pages of Wales: The Way Ahead (Cmnd. 3334) were based.

Social Security

Widow's Pension

asked the Minister of Social Security whether, when there is a general increase in National Insurance benefits, she will relax the rule that contributors with a yearly average of less than 50 should receive a reduced increase, in the case of widows over 70 years of age.

No. The National Insurance scheme is contributory and the benefit must depend on the contribution record. When there is a general increase in National Insurance benefits, those at less than standard rates are increased broadly in proportion to the increase in the standard rate in order to maintain the relationship between the various rates. It would be out of keeping with the nature of the scheme to select a special small group for different treatment.

Supplementary Benefit (London Dockers)

51.

asked the Minister of Social Security what is the total amount of supplementary benefit paid to the families of London dockers on strike to the latest available date.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Foot-And-Mouth Disease

52.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if Her Majesty's Government will now take emergency powers in order to deal effectively with the foot-and-mouth epidemic.

I have very considerable powers which I am using under the Diseases of Animals Act, 1950. In addition we are securing in practice a number of other valuable precautions.

53.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will now impose a complete ban on all meat imports from countries known to be sources of foot-and-mouth disease.

As I have said, the origin of the present epidemic has not been established, but the Government are actively considering the question of imports.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the serious proportions of the present outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease, he will ban imports of meat from South America.

The origin of the present epidemic has not been established but the Government are actively considering the question of imports.

asked the Minister of Agriculture. Fisheries and Food how far a shortage of veterinary officers is now delaying prompt action on suspected fresh outbreaks of foot-and-mouth disease.

There is no shortage of veterinary surgeons and diagnosis and slaughter has been carried out promptly.

Home Grown Food (Publicity Campaign)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, in view of the need for a national campaign to persuade the public to buy homegrown food, and of the fact that it is not sufficient to leave the promotion of such a campaign to the various interested bodies, whether he will take the initiative in promoting it.

I think that the initiative should remain with the interested bodies, such as the Marketing Boards, the National Milk Publicity Council, the Apple and Pear Development Council, and the British Farm Produce Council, whose efforts I welcome.

Agricultural Industry

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the estimated increase in the cost to agriculture of the present 8 per cent. rate of interest over the next 12 months; and what instructions will be given to banks about special facilities for credit for agricultural expansion.

As I explained in the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Westmorland (Mr. Jopling) on 23rd November, the increased cost to farmers of the 8 per cent. Bank Rate would be about £7 million over a full year, of which about £4 million would be in respect of credit for current farming purposes.As regards the second part of the Question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Norfolk. South (Mr. J. E. B. Hill) by

the Chief Secretary to the Treasury on 23rd November.—[Vol. 754, c.

425; c. 417.]

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what he estimates to have been the rise in costs of the farming industry since the last price review in terms of wages awards, fuel, fertiliser and incidental price rises up to 18th November, 1967, and also the rises in costs which can be expected as a result of the devaluation of the £ sterling.

I estimate that the cost changes announced before 18th November would, in a full year, amount to about £14 million for wages, about £3¼ million for petroleum products and about £9½ million for fertilisers. I cannot yet say what the total rise in all relevant costs will be in a full year, and it is too early to assess what additional costs may arise from devaluation.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what studies he has made of the anticipated increase in agricultural output which would result from specific increases in agricultural support; and if he will publish any such tables so that the cost to the taxpayer of agricultural expansion and import substitution at various levels can be known.

Changes in the level of agricultural output cannot be related simply to changes in the level of agricultural support. Many other factors are involved such as changes in factor cost, technological developments and improvements in efficiency. It is not practicable therefore to publish the type of information requested.

Livestock (Guaranteed Price)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the Government's policy of requiring agriculture to play a special rôle in replacing imports, the supplement and abatement system on the guaranteed price for livestock will be abandoned so that farmers will know that whatever the state of the market and whatever number they produce, the guaranteed price will remain the same; what such a change would cost in the next 12 months; and what effect this would have on the production of beef and mutton.

Producers collectively are assured of the annual guaranteed price however many eligible fat cattle and sheep they produce, since this price is compared at the end of the year with their average total returns from the market and from weekly deficiency payments. Any shortfall is then made up by a final payment.The system of making abatements and supplements to the weekly deficiency payments is designed to encourage farmers to watch the course of market prices and sell their stock to the best advantage. It also discourages the practice of seeking certification, when deficiency payments are high, of stock that could still be retained on farms and slaughtered when market prices recover.It is impracticable to estimate how much the Exchequer cost of the guarantees would rise in 1968–69 if this system were abandoned. There is no reason to assume that total production would be affected.I see no justification for ending the system.

Fishing Industry

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether he intends to review the policy of the Government towards the fishing industry in the light of the devaluation of the £ sterling; whether it is still intended to cut Government subsidies annually and to reduce the size of the fishing fleet; and to what extent the British fleet could expand its activities and replace some of the present imports of fresh and frozen fish;(2) what studies are being made by his Department of the possible expansion of the fishing fleet and of domestic production dependent on increased governmental aid; and if the relevant information or statistics will be published.

These matters are being taken into account in the current review of fisheries policy about which I will make a statement as soon as possible.

House Of Commons

Catering Department (Wine Sales)

54.

asked the Lord President of the Council whether it is the policy of the Catering Department of the House of Commons to trade in wines; and what commission is received by the Department on bulk sales of wines.

Members' Dining Room (Oeuf En Gelee)

asked the Lord President of the Council what was the daily consumption of oeuf en gelee in the Members' Dining Room up to the last convenient day before it ceased being placed on the menu.

I have been asked to reply.This is considered to be a summer dish and in acordance with normal practice the

à la carte menu is changed seasonally. Because of low demand during the winter this dish has been discontinued but it will be replaced in warmer weather.

The average daily consumption during the summer was approximately twelve per day.

European Free Trade Area

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on British policy towards the European Free Trade Area.

The policy of Her Majesty's Government has been, and will remain, to play the fullest and most constructive part in the work of the Association in accordance with its aims and objectives.

Honours (Award Of Parliament)

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will recommend to the House the establishment of a new honour for outstanding service by individuals or institutions to the people of Great Britain, to be called the Award of Parliament.

My hon. Friend and I have already had an opportunity for a brief discussion of his interesting ideas on this subject. He knows there are formidable objections to his proposals, but I am grateful to him for putting them forward and will bear them in mind.

Rhodesia

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a further statement on his exchanges with Sir Humphrey Gibbs and Mr. Ian Smith.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a further statement on Rhodesia.

I have as yet nothing to add to the Statement made on 14th November by my right hon. Friend the Commonwealth Secretary.—[Vol. 754, c. 231.]

Economy (Ministerial Co-Ordination)

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with co-ordination between the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs and the Chancellor of the Exchequer towards achieving a three per cent. growth rate in the economy.

Social Policies (Co-Ordination)

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will establish a department for social affairs for the purpose of co-ordinating short-term and long-term social policies.

Our present arrangements already ensure the proper co-ordination of the Government's social policies, but if my hon. and learned Friend has any specific proposals to make I would be happy to have them examined.

European Ecomomic Community

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a further statement on Great Britain's application to join the European Economic Community.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if, in the light of President de Gaulle's announced policy on British membership, he will now make a further statement on the application to join the Common Market.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the official statement of the President of France about the entry of the United Kingdom into the Common Market, it is still his policy not to accept a refusal; and what is his plan for the United Kingdom.

I have nothing to add to the Answers I gave to Questions on 28th November and to the speech I made yesterday, a copy of which is in the Library.—[Vol. 755, c. 234.]

Council Of Europe (United Kingdom Delegation)

asked the Prime Minister what changes have been made in the composition of the United Kingdom delegation to the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe.

The hon. Members for Glasgow, Shettleston (Sir M. Galpern), Halifax (Dr. Summerskill) and Newcastle-upon-Tyne, East (Mr. Rhodes) have been appointed substitute members of the United Kingdom Delegation to the Council of Europe and the Western European Union in place of the hon. Members for King's Lynn (Mr. Derek Page), Wolverhampton, North East (Mrs. Renée Short) and Woolwich, West (Mr. Hamling).

Commonwealth Affairs

Cyprus (Treaty Of Guarantee)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs under what treaty obligations Her Majesty's Government is committed in guaranteeing the independence of Cyprus; and what recent representations he has made to other powers in the area in the light of these obligations.

The United Kingdom is a party to the Treaty of Guarantee, signed at Nicosia on 16th August, 1960 (Cmnd. 1093).The question of action under this Treaty has not arisen but together with their United States and Canadian colleagues, British representatives at Ankara, Athens and Nicosia are doing everything in their power to avert the threat of war from Cyprus and in particular to support the efforts made in the cause of peace by the United States President's special emissary, Mr. Cyrus Vance.

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what representations have been made to the Portugese Government since the Unilateral Declaration of Independence over the supply of good and oil to Rhodesia from Portugal and Portugese colonies.

We of course deplore the failure of any member State of the United Nations to carry out its obligations under the Charter and representations have been made to the Portuguese Government about various breaches of mandatory sanctions under resolutions of the Security Council. Such representations are confidential.

Moscow (British Military Attaché)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will give details of the incident involving Brigadier C. D. N. Harper, British Military Attaché in Moscow, at Kishinev on 17th November when he was assaulted and had personal possessions removed; and if he will make a statement.

On 17th November the British and American Military Attachés visited a wine-making farm near Kishinev where they sampled wines and sherries and ate food which was offered them. On returning to their hotel room they both suffered a violet attack of vomiting and retired to their beds. Subsequent medical examination of the two officers gave material evidence for suspecting that the wine had been tampered with.About four hours after the Attachés returned to their room a group of five or six men broke into it, forcibly held them down, tore open their clothes and removed their money belts containing personal papers. The intruders remained for an hour and refused at first to recognise the Attachés as diplomats.This was a serious violation of diplomatic immunity, involving the use of force and strong protests have been made to the Soviet Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

South Yemen (Recognition)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will withhold recognition from any Government of the People's Republic of South Yemen until the release of all members of the former Federal Government now held in custody; and if he will specify the measures of protection he intends to give to British subjects whose contractual relationships with Arab citizens formerly servants of the State expose the British subjects to retaliatory measures.

The Answer to the first part of the Question is "No". We have decided to recognise the new State immediately on independence and to enter into normal relations with it.As to the second part, the National Liberation Front have repeated their public assurance that the new Government wishes to protect and encourage the foreign community. The communiqué issued on 29th November records this.

Perim, Kamaran And Kuria Muria Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what decision he has taken on the future of Perim, Kamaran and the Kuria Muria Islands, having taken into account the wishes of the inhabitants.

Consultations with the inhabitants of all three groups of islands took place in October and November, starting with those of the Kuria Murias.In accordance with the wishes of hon. Members I pressed for the internationalisation of Perim at the United Nations, but I received confirmation on the 1st of November that this proposal would not be entertained because it was contrary to the letter and spirit of the United Nations Resolutions. Accordingly, I have decided that in all three cases, the wishes of the Islanders should be paramount in deciding their future.The inhabitants of Perim and Kamaran have opted in favour of remaining with South Arabia. The inhabitants of the Kuria Muria Islands have opted for reversion to Muscat. Though administered for convenience from Aden, the Kuria Muria Islands were a separate colony. They originally belonged to Muscat, which ceded them to Queen Victoria in 1854. They have close ties geographically, ethnically and linguistically with the Sultanate of Muscat and Oman. They are 200 miles from the nearest South Yemeni territory, and only 20 to 40 miles from the coast of Muscat.We accept that Perim and Kamaran form part of the People's Republic of Southern Yemen and Her Majesty's Government are ready formally to recognise the adherence to it of Perim, now that British sovereignty has ended there. An Agreement for the cession of the Kuria Murias to Muscat has been concluded with the Sultan of Muscat and took effect today. Her Majesty's Government have never had sovereignty over Kamaran and the question of cession does not therefore arise.

Hospitals

Pay Beds (North-West Metropolitan Region)

asked the Minister of Health if he will list the number of pay beds available before the review in each appropriate hospital, including teaching hospitals, in the North-West Metropolitan Region, together with the numbers now authorised.

NORTH-WEST METROPOLITAN REGIONAL HOSPITAL BOARD

Number of pay-beds authorised

Before pay-bed review

After pay-bed review

Hospital Management Committee

Hospital

Hospital

H.M.C. Total

Hospital

H.M.C. Total

BedfordBedford General14141212
Luton and HitchinLuton and Dunstable1610
Children's Annexe11
Lister Hospital42
Luton Maternity11
North Herts.31
Harpenden Memorial22
Letchworth21
Queen Victoria Memorial31
3219
WindsorCanadian Red Cross22
King Edward VII1510
Maidenhead42
Wexham Park1010
3124
BarnetFinchley Memorial105
Potters Bar22
Wood Green32
Barnet General04
1513
Mid Herts.Queen Elizabeth II66
St. Albans City44
1010
West Herts.Bushey and District21
Watford Peace96
Shrodells0
West Herts.108
2115
HendonBushey Maternity10
Colindale22
Edgware22
Hendon115
169
South-West MiddlesexBrentford20
King Edward Memorial33
Queen Victoria11
Teddington20
West Middlesex04
88
Central MiddlesexActon42
Willesden General53
Central Middlesex99
1814
North LondonCity of London Maternity18
Garrett Anderson Maternity7
Royal Northern.5036
Elizabeth Garrett Anderson44
Hornsey31
New End11
Whittington15
6755
StainesHounslow20
Staines11
Ashford04
35
HillingdonSouthall/Norwood11
Uxbridge11
Hillingdon04
26
Harefield and NorthwoodHarefield108
Harrow97
Mount Vernon1412
Marie Curie10
Northwood66
Wembley108
5041
PaddingtonNational Temperance6600
Royal London HomoeopathicRoyal London Homoeopathic10101010

TEACHING HOSPITALS

Number of pay-beds authorised

Before pay-bed review

After pay-bed review

Board of Governors

Hospital

Hospital

B.G. Total

Hospital

B.G. Total

Royal FreeHampstead General1515
Royal Free Liverpool Road2020
3535
University CollegeUniversity College111111
St. Pancras99
120120
MiddlesexMiddlesex6666
St. Luke's Woodside74
Hospital for Women54
7874
Charing CrossWest London16161616
St. Mary'sSt. Mary's6565
Western Ophthalmic61
Samaritan for Women1414
Princess Louise21
8781
HammersmithHammersmith88
St. Mark's1212
2020
Hospital for Sick ChildrenHospital for Sick Children40 (31 in use)403131
National Hospital for Nervous Diseases.National Hospital
(Queen Square)1111
(Maida Vale)53
1614
Royal National Throat, Nose and Ear.Royal National Throat, Nose and Ear21211414
Moorfields Eye HospitalMoorfields Eye
(City Road)2222
(High Holborn)1212
3434
St. John's Hospital for Diseases of the Skin.St. John's2222
Royal National OrthopaedicRoyal National Orthopaedic10101010
St. Peter's, St. Paul's and St. Philip's.St. Peter's95
St. Paul's9 (8 in use)8
French (Shaftesbury)03
1816
TOTALS800708

Ministry Of Labour

Work Permits (Spanish Nationals And Gibraltarians)

asked the Minister of Labour how many applications for permits to work in Great Britain were made by Spanish citizens and Gibraltarians, respectively, during the last annual period for which figures are available; and how many of these applications were granted.

In 1966 applications for work permits in respect of Spanish nationals totalled 10,097; of these, 9,443 were granted. Fifty-two applications for vouchers were made in respect of Gibraltarians in 1966 and 19 vouchers have been issued against these. In addition, 11 of those concerned were

admitted by means of entry certificates; 12 applications were withdrawn by employers or lapsed; and five applications are still awaiting consideration in turn.

Unemployment (Wales)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will give a list of Welsh employment exchanges which have a percentage of unemployment above the average for the countries of Great Britain specifying for each area the percentage of unemployed persons.

Following is the information for 9th October, 1967 relating to the 51 areas in Wales in respect of which the unemployment percentage rate exceeded that for Great Britain.

Employment Exchange or travel-to-work area

Percentage rate of unemployment

Porthcawl9·1
Blaenau Ffestiniog8·3
Caerphilly*8·0
Risca8·0
Tonypandy*7·9
Holyhead*7·8
Ammanford*7·6
Bargoed*7·3
Maesteg*7·1
Milford Haven6·9
Ystalyfera*6·3
Lampeter*6·0
Pontyclun*5·9
Pwllheli*5·9
Caernarvon*5·8
Merthyr Tydfil*5·4
Cardigan5·2
Pontypool*5·1
Ebbw Vale*4·8
Barmouth*4·6
Llandudno*4·6
Llangollen*4·6
Tenby*4·6
Rhyl4·5
Towyn4·4
Monmouth4·3
Llanrwst4·3
Aberdare*4·2
Bridgend4·1
Wrexham*4·0
Abergavenny*3·9
Aberystwyth3·8
Swansea*3·8
Colwyn Bay3·7
Llanelli*3·7
Machynlleth3·6
Llandeilo*3·5
Fishguard3·4
Pembroke Dock3·4
Port Talbot3·4
Cardiff*3·3
Llandrindod Wells*3·3
Neath*3·2
Newtown3·2
Welshpool3·2
Newport*3·0
Chepstow2·7
Cwmbran2·7
Pontypridd2·7
Haverfordwest2·5
Great Britain2·4

*Travel-to-work area

Manual Workers (Weekly Earnings)

asked the Minister of Labour what is currently the average wage in Cornwall, the Highlands of Scotland, and London, respectively.

Information on the average wage is not available for areas smaller than English regions or for areas of Scotland. The latest results of the Ministry's half-yearly inquiry into the earnings and hours of manual workers show that, in April, 1967, the average weekly earnings of adult male manual workers covered by the inquiry were £19 2s. 11d. in South Western region, £19 14s. 4d. in Scotland and £21 12s. 3d. in London and South-Eastern region. Average weekly earnings of men manual workers analysed by industry for the South-Western Region, for Scotland and for the London and South-Eastern Region were published in the September, 1967, issue of Statistics on Incomes, Prices, Employment and Production.

Employees (Movements Between Regions)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will provide a table showing, for each of the past five years, the gross total of employees emigrating from and immigrating to Scotland, Wales, and the regional areas of England; and in each case what percentage the emigrants constituted of the total of insured workers.

Estimates have been published annually in the Ministry of Labour Gazette of movements of employees between regions. These estimates were derived from the annual exchange of insurance cards. Where known, adjustments were made to take account of the movement of cards which did not correspond to the movement of employees. In recent years there has been a marked growth of arrangements whereby all cards held by firms are exchanged centrally irrespective of the inter-regional dispersion of their employees. Because of this it is now clear that reliable estimates cannot be compiled on this basis. This view is confirmed by a comparison with the results of the 1961 Census of Population. Some estimates of inter-regional migration will however be available from the 1966 Census of Population.

Cost Of Living (Wales)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will cause a survey to be made of the cost of living in Wales.

My right hon. Friend has asked the Cost of Living Advisory Committee to review the desirability of the calculation and publication of retail price indices for different regions of the country. This review will begin shortly.

Public Building And Works

Ministry Of Labour Office, Sunderland

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works when it is proposed to build a new employment exchange in Sunderland.

Scotland

Migration

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has yet considered the Registrar-General's estimate of the net migration loss in 1966–67; and if he will make a statement.

The estimated net migration loss from Scotland in the year ended 30th June, 1967, was 45,000. This was 2,000 fewer than the estimate for the previous year.

Forestry Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many acres of trees have been planted in Scotland by the Forestry Commission in each year from 1960 to 1966; and how many are expected to be planted in each year from1967 to 1975.

The area of new planting in Scotland by the Forestry Commission from 1960 to 1966 was:

000s acres
196024
196126
196228
196327
196426
196530
196632
In the forest year 1967, which ended on 30th September, the Commission planted 33,000 acres. It expects to plant 34,000 acres in 1968 and 36,000 acres in 1969. It is too early to forecast the exact programmes for subsequent years, but planting will increase by stages to 50,000 acres a year by 1976.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give figures for employment in forestry in Scotland for the years 1963, 1964, 1965, and 1966; and what redundancies have taken place in 1967.

The industrial staff of the Forestry Commission in Scotland at 30th September in each year was:

19633,916
19643,794
19653,890
19663,796
Only one man has been discharged on grounds of redundancy in 1967.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many hoppus feet of timber were produced in Scotland by the Forestry Commission in 1964, 1965, and 1966; and what percentage of this was felled by the Forestry Commission's own labour force.

The figures are shown in the following table:

1.2
Volume of Timber Produced by the Forestry Commission in Scotland (million hoppus feet)Felled by Forestry Commission Labour Per cent.
19648·224
19659·629
196611·531

Transport

Central Transport Consultative Committee

asked the Minister of Transport what is the composition of the Central Transport Consultative Committee; and why she has accepted the recommendations of this committee, in considering inconvenience to the public in Oxford, rather than those of the area committee which fully examined the question on the spot.

The composition of the Committee is laid down in Section 56(2) of the Transport Act, 1962. The Members are listed below. It is the duty of the Central Committee to consider recommendations of an Area Committee and, where it appears to them to be desirable, to make recommendations to my right hon. Friend. In the Oxford Station case the Central Committee felt that in view of the limited degree of hardship involved they would not be justified in asking for the downside entrance to be reopened. There is no reason to question their considered judgment.The following is the information:—

Membership of Central Transport Consultative Committee

  • Mr. E. G. Whitaker, M.Inst.T.—Chairman.
  • General Sir Roy Bucher, K.B.E., C.B., M.C., D.L.—Chairman Yorkshire T. U.C.C.
  • Mr. L. A. Carey, Minst.T.—Chairman E. Anglia T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. E. W. Craig, O.B.E., I.P.—Chairman Scotland T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. C. E. T. Cridland, M.I.E.E.—Chairman W. Midland T.U.C.C.
  • Maj. Gen. Sir Lancelot and E. Cutforth, C.B.—Chairman London T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. G. E. Dearing, C.B.E., J.P.—Chairman E. M dland T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. A. N. Hunt—Chairman North West T.U.C.C.
  • Lt. Col. J. K. MacFarlan, O.B.E.—Chairman South West T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. P. W. Milligan—Chairman South East T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. R. P. Roberts, F.I.C.S., F.I.S.F.—Chairman Wales T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. J. R. Ropner—Chairman North Eastern T.U.C.C.
  • Mr. F. W. Bebbington, A.Inst.T., M.I.T.M., A.M.I.T.A.
  • Lord Collison, C.B.E.
  • Mr. A. L. King, M.B.E.
  • Major E. E. Mealing, J.P.
  • Mr. G. Dudley G. Perkins.
  • Miss M. G. Triggs, O.B.E.

Glasgow Chamber Of Commerce (Letter)

asked the Minister of Transport what representations she has received from the Glasgow Chamber of Commerce regarding 'her proposals for abnormal load charges for road haulage; and what reply she has sent.

The Chamber's letter of 27th November was received on Tuesday, 28th November. The points they make are being considered and I will see that the hon. Member is sent a copy of the reply in due course.

Railways

Orpington-London Bridge Line (Cracked Rails)

asked the Minister of Transport how many cracked and broken rails were detected on the fast line between Orpington and London Bridge in the two weeks prior to the Hither Green disaster and the two weeks after it, respectively.

I am told by the Railways Board that during the two weeks before the Hither Green accident five cracked rails and one broken rail were discovered on the Fast line between Orpington and London Bridge; in the two weeks following one cracked rail and no broken rails were discovered.

National Finance

Foreign Exchange (Cotton Trade)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the damage which the cotton trade in the United Kingdom is likely to suffer as a result of the difference in exchange rate which now exists between the currency of many of the scheduled territories and the £ sterling, due to the fact that the trade has consistently been refused permission to obtain cover in the foreign exchange market, if he will ensure that this facility is now given to them.

Consideration is being given to this; but the Government cannot at present anticipate any change in the present rule under which United Kingdom residents are allowed to buy foreign exchange forward only in respect of future commitments in foreign exchange.

Revenue And Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the net transfer of public funds, on an annual basis, from England and Wales, to Scotland.

I regret this information is not available. On the question of preparing an up-to-date statement of Government revenue and expenditure in Scotland, and England and Wales, I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Berwick and East Lothian (Mr. Mackintosh) on 20th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 283.]

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give figures of Government expenditure in England and Wales, and Scotland, respectively, in

CENTRAL GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURE*, 1966–67
£ million
ServiceEngland and WalesScotlandColumn (2) as percentage of Great Britain total
(1)(2)(3)
Roads (including Lighting)2123313
Airports10323
Promotion of Local Employment221946
S.E.T. Additional Payments3837
Agricultural Support1933314
Agriculture and Fisheries Services291026
Forestry†4343
Housing922421
Environmental Services25414
Libraries and Museums, etc.125
Police102109
Prisons2939
Other Law and Order (including Fire Services)4349
Education (excluding Universities and C.A.T's)611823
Universities and C.A.T's1873717
Health and Welfare1,11114111
Children's Services2683311
Social Security2,15024810
General Rate Deficiency, and Equalisation and Transitional Grants to Local Revenues, etc,1,06512911
Other Services, etc.15
… less than £1m.
* Including transfers to other spending authorities within the Public Sector, other than Consolidated Fund loans to local authorities (not separately identified).
† Excluding increase in value of stocks.
—A comparable figure for England and Wales is not available.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what approximately was the total amount of taxation borne by persons and institutions resident in Scotland in the financial year 1966–67 compared with the total amount of grants, subsidies and other financial assistance received in Scotland from the Exchequer in the same period.

I regret that this information is not available. However, I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for East Berwick and East Lothian (Mr. Mackintosh) on 20th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 283.]

Inland Revenue (Letters)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state the number of letters not cleared by the In-

1966–67 for those categories of expenditure for which separate figures can be separately identified for Scotland, showing in each category the percentage which the Scottish expenditure represents of the total for Great Britain.

The following table shows the information required.land Revenue within seven days at the end of each month since October, 1964.

Public Service Pensions

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps will be taken to ensure that public service pensions retain their purchasing power and maintain their level with other types of pension.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary gave to the hon. Member for St. Albans (Mr. Goodhew) on 21st November, when he drew attention to the Financial Secretary's speech on the Public Service and Armed Forces Commission Bill on 3rd February, and to the significance of the fact that most public service pensioners them selves receive the ordinary retirement pension.—[Vol. 754, c. 1124–25]

Sterling Holdings

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the sterling balances held by each country prior to devaluation.

I cannot give figures for sterling holdings of individual countries. The usual details of sterling holdings, broken down by the main geogragraphical regions, as at the end of September, 1967, will be published in the Bank of England Bulletin for December.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what discussions he has had with the Malaysian Govern-men, both prior to and after devaluation, having regard to their sterling balances of some £300 million; and if he will make a statement.

In accordance with normal practice there have been discussions from time to time with the Malaysian Government on sterling and financial questions generally. The Malaysian Government in common with other Sterling Area Governments received a message explaining the decision to devalue shortly before the official announcement.

Income Tax (Foot-And-Mouth Disease Compensation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make provision in order to ensure that the compensation received by farmers for animals slaughtered because of foot-and-mouth disease is not taxed as income if the replacement animals are not purchased before the end of the financial year.

Where a farmer makes an election for the herd basis under Section 23 of the Finance Act, 1953, compensation for the compulsory slaughter of animals forming part of the herd is not taxable until there can be offset against it the cost of replacement animals, and any excess of the compensation over the cost of replacing by inferior animals is left out of account in computing profits.

Wales

Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many rating authorities in Wales have decided to rate empty properties under the Local Government Act, 1966.

The following eight local authorities have sent my right hon. Friend copies of resolutions adopting these provisions:

Non-county Boroughs and Urban Districts

  • Barry, Beaumaris, Chepstow, Llandovery,
  • Llanidloes, Maesteg and Neath.

Rural Districts

  • Vaynor and Penderyn.

Mineral Resources (Geophysical Survey)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will instigate a geophysical survey of Welsh mining resources during the coming year to see what scope for employment and development lies in metal mining in Wales in the future.

The whole of Wales has been covered by an airborne magnetic survey undertaken on behalf of the Institute of Geological Sciences. Interpretation and assessment of the magnetic anomalies revealed are in hand with the object of identifying any localities where further geophysical surveys may be warranted.

Roads

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will provide for a major north-south road in Wales and a major east-west road in mid-Wales during the coming year so as to relieve unemployment in Wales and provide an adequate basis for communication within the Principality.

My plans for improving trunk roads in central Wales are described in paragraphs 54, 55 and 371 of "Wales: The Way Ahead". I shall continue to give priority during the coming year and thereafter to the Brecon-Llangurig and Haverfordwest-Bangor roads as well as to the Aberystwyth-Shrewsbury road.I am undertaking over £½ million worth of additional road improvements and maintenance work in Mid-Wales this winter which will help to relieve unemployment.

Housebuilding, 1967

Morgan asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is his latest estimate of the number of houses to be built in Wales in 1967.

Nearly 17,000 houses were built in the first 10 months of 1967. A continuation of this trend would give a record total of 20,000 for the year of which about 11,000 would be in the public sector.

Llanelly-Craven Arms Railway Line

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what alternative plans for road communications his Department has in the event of the closure of the Llanelly-Craven Arms railway.

Objections to the proposal to withdraw passenger services from this line will be heard in public by the T.U.C.C.s concerned. They will report to my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport on the hardship which might result from closure. In the light of all the evidence before her, and after consulting my right hon. Friend, she will decide whether or not the line should be closed and, if so, what alternative arrangements would be needed.