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Volume 756: debated on Tuesday 12 December 1967

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 12th December, 1967

Ministry Of Power

Natural Gas (Prospecting)

19.

asked the Minister of Power if he will publish details of the manner in which the North Sea and the seas adjacent to Great Britain were prospected for natural gas; and why he estimates that within a few years the quantity will be increased to about three times its present output.

Information about the search for natural gas on the British Continental Shelf is published in the recent 'White Paper on Fuel Policy (Cmnd. 3438), in the Ministry of Power Statistical 'Digest for 1966 and in my Annual Reports under the Continental Shelf Act, 1964.84 wells have been drilled and four important fields already located.As stated in the White Paper the recoverable reserves of natural gas in the fields already licensed in the North Sea are enough to build up a production rate of some 3,000 million cubic feet a day within five or six years, which is equal to nearly three times our present consumption of town gas.

Fuel Economy Model

33.

asked the Minister of Power if he will state the cost to date of his model of the fuel economy, the numbers of staff now employed and their total salaries; and whether he proposes to maintain the organisation as a permanent part of his Department.

Twelve staff, with annual salaries of about £20,000, are now employed on this work for which the total cost to date to the Ministry has been approximately £31,000. Development will continue over several years, during which time the model is expected to become increasingly integrated into the Department's planning machinery.

Coal Industry Bill (Gas Costs)

36.

asked the Minister of Power what effect the measures proposed in the Coal Industry Bill will have on the 24 per cent. addi- tional cost of gas in Scotland compared with the average price level in England and Wales.

The Bill provides for reimbursement of any additional costs incurred by Gas Boards in using extra coal to help the coal industry instead of other feedstocks. The effect, in Scotland as elsewhere, will be that the Boards' total costs will be no higher than if they had adopted the most economic methods of production.

Fuel Oil (Consumption)

45.

asked the Minister of Power what he estimates to be the yearly added cost to the balance of payments of the growth of fuel oil consumption envisaged in the Fuel Policy White Paper and the likely extra cost arising from devaluation.

It is not the practice to publish forecasts of balance of payments costs. I hope to make a statement shortly on the effects of devaluation.

Tin Mill And Galvanising Plant (Lanarkshire)

48.

asked the Minister of Power when he will now give a decision about building a tin mill and galvanising plant at Gartcosh, Lanarkshire.

The British Steel Corporation will submit for my right hon. Friends' approval an annual investment programme in accordance with the arrangements described in the White Paper "Nationalised Industries—A Review of Economic and Financial Objectives" (Cmnd. 3437, para. 39). It is, however, in the first instance for the Corporation to decide what projects to include in this programme.

Electricity And Gas Industries(Connection Charges)

asked the Minister of Power whether he has reached a conclusion in his discussions with the Electricity Council and the Gas Board about initial connection charges for electricity installations in new housing projects where gas is also supplied.

No. My right hon. Friend has received a report dealing with connection charges, in relation to both industries, which he is now discussing with them.

Shipbuilding Industry (Steel Prices)

asked the Minister of Power what rise he estimates will occur in the price of shipbuilding steel.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my right hon. Friend the Member for Sunderland, North (Mr. Willey) today.

Phoenix Works, Rutherglen (Closure)

asked the Minister of Power what consultations he had with the British Steel Corporation, and when, before the decision to close the Phoenix Works, Rutherglen, of Stewarts and Lloyds; and what assurances he obtained as to the number of employees who would be offered alternative employment by the Corporation, and as to where the work at present being done there would be done in future.

I was informed several weeks ago that closure of the Phoenix Works was under consideration by the British Steel Corporation. I have the Corporation's assurance that everything possible will be done to provide alternative employment.

Fuel Policy White Paper

asked the Minister of Power if the proposed cuts in the capital investment programme of the nationalised industries are being taken into account in his revision of the Fuel Policy White Paper.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Ince (Mr. McGuire) yesterday.—[Vol. 756, c. 57.]

Coal

Opencast Mining (Northumberland)

23.

asked the Minister of Power what application has been received by his Department for the extension of opencast coal mining in the area of Chevington Drift. Morpeth, Northumberland; and what decision he has taken.

Phurnacite

37.

asked the Minister of Power what is the annual production of Phurnacite fuel now, as compared with the years 1960 and 1965; and how many plants are producing this fuel.

Production in 1960 and 1965 was 640,000 tons and 814,000 tons respectively. Current production and details of plant, are matters for the National Coal Board and I have asked the Chairman to write to my hon. Friend.

District Heating Schemes

40.

asked the Minister of Power what assessment he has made of the contribution which coal can make in district heating schemes for large housing developments.

Coal is already contributing. I have myself visited the scheme at Billingham where the entire heating needs of a new town centre, with shops, municipal offices, blocks of flats, factory buildings and an indoor sports and entertainment forum are being provided for by piped hot water from a single boiler house served by solid fuel. Some 30 district heating schemes using coal are in operation, under construction or in the final stages of design.

Northern Gas Board (Service Charges)

46 and 47.

asked the Minister of Power (1) if he will refer the increased charges proposed by the Northern Gas Board in regard to their gas central heating service scheme to the National Board for Prices and Incomes;(2) what consultations took place, in the light of Her Majesty's Government's directive to the nationalised industries about notification of price increases, with the Northern Gas Board regarding increased prices for their service scheme for gas central heating appliances, particularly the increase from 30s. to £8 for the comprehensive maintenance scheme; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Minister of Power whether, in view of the policy of Her Majesty's Government on prices, he will refer the increased price for servicing for gas central heating by the Northern Gas Board to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

Increases in consumer service charges by Gas Boards are not subject to the early warning system, but the Northern Gas Board informed the Government of their proposals on this occasion. The Government decided that there were insufficient grounds for referring these increases to the National Board for Prices and Incomes, and have confined the present reference to gas and coke.

Smokeless Fuel Plant, Coventry (Capital Cost)

asked the Minister of Power what is the latest estimate of the capital cost of the Coventry plant for the production of Homefire smokeless fuel, for which he has sanctioned expenditure; and when full production from the plant will be reached.

The latest estimate of the capital cost is £12 million. I am informed by the Board that there is no regular marketable production at present because of technical problems, and that until these problems are overcome it is not possible to say how long it will be until full production is reached. The Board expect however that part of the plant will be in regular production by March, 1968.

Mosley Common Colliery (Redundancy Benefit)

asked the Minister of Power how many of the men now employed at Mosley Common Colliery will receive benefit under the Coal Industry Redundancy Scheme when the colliery closes in February next.

There are at present 379 men over 55 at Mosley Common Colliery and the numbers who will receive benefit under the Coal Industry Redundancy Scheme, when the colliery closes will depend on how many of these men are able to take up jobs at other collieries.

Pit Closures (Deferments)

asked the Minister of Power to what extent the curtailment of pit closures recently announced by Her Majesty's Government has affected the working life of collieries in Bassetlaw.

None of the 16 deferred pit closures recently announced by the Government affects Bassetlaw.

Electricity

Central Electricity Generating Board (Plant Capacity)

34.

asked the Minister of Power if he will make a statement on the total amount of electrical generating capacity likely to be available in practice in relation to maximum possible demand under severe conditions in the coming winter months of December, January and February.

The C.E.G.B. estimate that their plant capacity available this winter will be 37,000 MW, and that maximum demand in average cold spells will be 36,000 MW.

Nuclear Power Stations

42.

asked the Minister of Power if he will state the costs of disposing of radioactive waste from nuclear power stations, and describe the methods used; and whether the costs are charged against the stations concerned.

The costs of dealing with radioactive waste at power stations are included in the capital and operating costs of the stations concerned and are not readily separable. I understand that the costs of processing wastes in irradiated fuel elements are allowed for by the Atomic Energy Authority in the price paid to the Generating Boards for the re-purchase of such fuel. For information about the disposal of solid and gaseous waste I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Bebington (Mr. Brooks) on 7th November.—[Vol. 753, c. 806.]

44.

asked the Minister of Power what effect he estimates devaluation will have on the operating cost of the advanced gas-cooled reactor nuclear power stations, Dungeness B and Hinkley Point B; and what effect it will have on the operating costs of the coal-fired stations at Cottam and Drax.

It is too early to estimate but a significant difference appears to be unlikely.

asked the Minister of Power when it is expected that the advanced gas-cooled reactor nuclear power stations Dungeness B and Hinkley Point B will be in operation; and when he estimates that the coal-fired station at Cottam will be in operation.

asked the Minister of Power what he estimates to be the effect on the average price paid for electricity by domestic and industrial consumers throughout Great Britain of achieving the forecast savings of cost expected from building advance gas-cooled reactor nuclear power stations with a total capacity of 8,000 megawatts, over a programme of coal-fired stations, assuming that all other factors remain unchanged.

At the present average cost of coal to the Central Electricity Generating Board, the annual savings would be more than £30 million or about 0·03d. a unit in the mid 1970s. It is not possible to predict the effect on the price of electricity to particular classes of consumer.

Electricity Industry

49.

asked the Minister of Power what saving of manpower has been made by area electricity boards, the Central Electricity Generating Board and the Electricity Council as a result of the Selective Employment Tax.

The electricity supply industry is treated neutrally for purposes of the Selective Employment Tax, but the industry is aware of the great importance of further improving productivity.

asked the Minister of Power by how much the receipts of the electricity industry have had to be raised recently due to increases in rates payable by the industry.

Local authority rates in England and Wales are expected to cost the industry about £8 million more in 1967–68 than in 1965–66 when the last round of electricity price increases was completed.

asked the Minister of Power by how much the coal price increases of April, 1966, caused the electricity industry to put up its charges.

The increase in coal prices added about £30 million a year to the electricity industry's costs of which about half was automatically recovered at the time from consumers whose tariffs included a fuel cost adjustment clause.

Technology

International Labour Productivity (Comparisons)

51.

asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish the source of the statistics available to his Department comparing productivity in Great Britain with other major industrial countries in terms of the number of men required in each country to achieve the same results.

There are no official statistics of international labour productivity comparisons of this sort available to the Department. Certain studies on productivity have been prepared by N.E.D.O. for individual industries which have some bearing on this matter and I am sending them to the hon. Member.

Concorde Aircraft

52.

asked the Minister of Technology what are the consequences of devaluation on the proposed British share of development costs of the Concorde aircraft project.

The sterling cost of the work to be done in Britain will increase slightly owing to the higher costs of certain materials and equipment that have to be imported from third countries.

Industrial Expansion Bill

55.

asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement on the proposed legislation dealing with the expansion of industry.

The White Paper on the Government's proposals will be published shortly and as my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House explained on 7th December, the Bill will be introduced after the Recess.—[Vol. 755, c. 1669.]

asked the Minister of Technology when the Industrial Expansion Bill be published.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my earlier reply to the hon. Member for Billericay (Mr. Moonman).

Advanced Technology (European Co-Operation)

53.

asked the Minister of Technology what effect he estimates that devaluation will have upon European co-operation in advanced technology.

The financial effects on current collaborative projects will depend en the terms of the relevant agreements. Generally devaluation should add to the attraction of the U.K. as a partner in collaborative endeavours.

Short Brothers And Harland (Grant)

54.

asked the Minister of Technology what grant is given to Short Brothers and Harland of Belfast for the Purpose of running pilotless, radio-controlled target operations at Woomera.

No grant is given by the Ministry of Technology. The Australian Department of Supply, as the range operator. have a contract with Short Brother3 and Harland which covers this work.

Atomic Energy Authority (Research)

asked the Minister of Technology if he will specify work outside the atomic field currently being undertaken by the Atomic Energy Authority, showing the expenditure of public money involved in the current financial year of each major area of activity.

I tabulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT of 9th May, 1967, a list of the major areas of research outside the atomic field being undertaken by the Atomic Energy Authority. Major projects started since then are Atmospheric Pollution, which will cost about £50,000 in the current year, Tribology, Heat Transfer and Fluid Flow, and Computer Software and Applications (Linesman Mediator), on which smaller amounts will be spent this year.—[Vol. 746, c. 185.]

asked the Minister of Technology if he will state the total costs of the past work done by the Atomic Energy Authority for the advanced gas-cooled reactor series of nuclear stations; and why those costs are not being fully recovered in royalties.

The Authority's expenditure to 31st March, 1967, on the development of the Advanced Gas-cooled Reactor system amounted to £89 million. Whether a royalty of 0·014d. per unit will recover these costs in full depends on how many such stations are built and how much electricity they generate.

Hydrofoils

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will make a statement about the development of, the Government's assistance to, and the export possibilities of, the hydrofoil.

On 1st November my right hon. Friend announced the establishment of a Working Party on Hydrofoils who will let him have their interim report as soon as possible. He should then be able to assess British prospects in this field.

Camlab Company (Prices)

asked the Minister of Technology whether he has considered the proposal of the Camlab Company, details of which have been sent to him, to increase its prices as a result of devaluation based not on the cost of the imported items but on the previous selling price thus increasing profits; and if he will refer this matter to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

My Department is investigating this case. I will let my hon. Friend know the result of my inquiries as soon as possible.

Military Equipment (Overseas Sales)

asked the Minister of Technology to which governments sales have been made of the Canberra, Lightning, Jet Provost Family and B.A.C. guided weapons, respectively.

It is not Her Majesty's Government's policy to disclose details of sales of military equipment to overseas Governments.

National Finance

Government Departments

56 and 57.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is the total estimated annual cost to the taxpayer of the 122 additional public relations and Press officers appointed to Government Departments, excluding the Post Office, since September, 1964, on the criteria laid down in reply to a Question on 7th March, 1966, and of their subsidiary staff, including the cost of pay, pensions, gratuities and National Insurance, likely expense claims, and accommodation and ancillary services;(2) if he will give the approximate cost in 1968 of the 122 additional public relations and Press officers appointed in Government Departments, excluding the Post Office, since September, 1964, showing separately, pay, likely expense claims. pensions, gratuities and National Insurance, and accommodation and ancillary services.

The figure 122 quoted is for all Information Officer Staff and equivalents in Departments' Information Branches. Twenty-two of them are in the Post Office.Pay of the 122 staff is estimated at £250,000; that of subsidiary staff at £103,000; total pensions gratuities and national insurance costs at £97,000; and the cost of accommodation and ancillary services at £103,000. The total cost is estimated at £553,00; if the Post Office staff are excluded, £466,000.

58.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement about the dispersal of Government Departments and their adjuncts to the regions and development areas of the United Kingdom.

Yes. Since the Flemming Report in May, 1963, over 9,000 Government jobs have been moved from London and the South-East, and a further 18,000 will be moved over the next few years. Of these 27,000, 13,000 will go to Scotland, Wales and the English Development Areas. The same policy is applied to offices required for new Government work and over the last two and the next few years this will have produced some 15,000 additional jobs in Scotland, Wales and the English Development Areas.

68

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proportion of the total usage by Government Departments of non-wool textiles is represented by imports as against domestic production.

About 12½ per cent. of the non-wool fabrics purchased in 1966 by Government Departments consisted of cloth woven abroad.

69.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will establish co-ordinating machinery for supplies and purchases for each Government Department with a view to ensuring variety and quality control.

The Government appreciates the importance of co-operation betwen Departments in order to concentrate their purchasing on a limited range of good quality products. Much has been done in this direction already, but we are constantly seeking further improvement.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer which new Government offices or agencies have been sited in Scotland since October 1964, the decisions for which to establish them in Scotland were made prior to October 1964; and how many jobs were involved.

Of the projects considered in the context of dispersal and regional development policies, the Post Office Savings Bank at Glasgow which will build up from its present employment of 1,100 to a total of 5,500 by 1976 and the Inland Revenue Schedule E centre at East Kilbride which will begin to operate next year and will employ 1,300 people by 1970.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the Chief Secretary's negotiations with the Confederation of British Industry on the question of the need for Government Departments to obtain equality of information with contractors.

I have nothing to add to the Prime Minister's reply given today to my hon. Friend.

Devaluation (Exporters)

60.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the extent to which the advantage to be gained by exporters from devaluation has been reduced by the qualifications introduced in the measures relating to fiscal policy recently announced by Her Majesty's Government.

The average effect on exporters' costs of withdrawing the export rebate and the additional sum in the S.E.T. premium is estimated at about 2½ per cent. The effect of the 2½ per cent. increase in Corporation Tax on unit profits cannot be precisely estimated but will be small.

Tourist Industry

61.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the increase of 8 per cent. in the n umber of overseas visitors during the first nine months of 1967, and the effect of the devaluation of the £ sterling on Great Britain's invisible earnings, he will seek to exempt the tourist industry from

November,November,End of May,October,November
19651966196719671967
£ million (at $2·80)1,0671,1721,0551,003
£ million (at $2·40)(1,170)1,223

Foreign Exchange

63.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will support applications for foreign exchange in order to assist British groups offering legal aid and other assistance to American citizens who break the law of the United States of America my draft dodging.

Applications for foreign exchange will be approved only to the extent that they conform to the rules generally applicable to gifts and donations.

Letters Of Intent

65 and 67.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will publish the letters of intent or similar communications sent to the international banking community by Government representatives between October, 1964 and November, 1967;

the payment of Selective Employment Tax and extend the region employment premium scheme to include this industry.

No. The tourist industry should benefit from the fact that devaluation will make holidays in Great Britain more attractive for visitors from most overseas countries. The changes proposed would be incompatible with the purposes of the Selective Employment Tax and the Regional Employment Premium.

Exchange Equalisation Account

62.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the position of the Exchange Equalisation Account on 21st November or on the last convenient date; and if he will give the corresponding figures for six months before, 12 months before and 24 months before.

Figures relating to the Exchange Equalisation Account are published only at the end of each month. The gold and convertible currencies held in the Account at the relevant periods have been:(2) if he will publish the letters of intent or similar communications sent to the international banking community by Government representatives between 1951 and October, 1964.

Since October, 1964, the only letter of intent besides that of 23rd November this year was one sent in connection with the I.M.F. drawing of May, 1965. On this I would refer the hon. Member to my reply of 6th December to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Dickens). The question of publishing the letters of intent sent by the previous Government is not a matter for me.—[Vol. 755, c. 353.]

International Monetary Fund (Drawing Rights)

64.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether any part of the $1,400 million standby credit is to be allocated to the repayment of the central bank swaps; and whether the International Monetary Fund's vetting procedures will continue to apply until this part of the standby is reconstituted.

There are existing undertakings to the effect that within certain limits drawing rights in the Fund will either be maintained to match drawings under some of our earlier Central Bank facilities or, if necessary, used to repay them. Whether those drawing rights will in fact have to be used for this purpose can only be decided later. Our commitments to consult with the International Monetary Fund were contained in the Letter of Intent of 23rd November which has been published.

Customs Duty And Purchase Tax

66.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is satisfied with the practice of Her Majesty's Customs and Excise in charging duty and Purchase Tax on imported goods paid for before devaluation at post-devaluation rates of exchange; and whether he will make a statement.

Yes. This practice is in accordance with the law and I am satisfied that no change is called for.

Fiscal Policies (Scotland)

70.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make it the normal practice in future to introduce a separate Budget and Finance Bill for Scotland, so that full account may be taken of her need for expansionist policies at those times when restrictionist and deflationary policies may be desirable in England.

No. In general, as a matter of practicality and in the absence of any control at the Border, the Government's fiscal policies have to apply uniformly throughout Great Britain. Our regional policies are already designed to improve the position in the development areas, including most of Scotland, in relation to the rest of the country.

Budget Date

71.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will advance the date of the Budget to January, or as soon as possible thereafter, so as to take maximum advantage of any opportunities provided by devaluation of the £ sterling by means of fiscal incentives to greater national effort, and to put an end to speculation about further devaluation.

No. There is no basis for such speculation. The measures which it was advisable to take at once have been taken already. We need a clearer view of the prospect for demand before the next steps in fiscal policy are decided.

Export-Import Bank (Credit Agreements)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer for what total sums loans from the Export-Import Bank have been arranged for the purchase by the United Kingdom of military equipment; over what period, and in what instalments, these loans will be repaid; and how these transactions will be recorded in the official balance of payments statistics.

There are four credit Agreements with the Export-Import Bank, for a total of $847 million, under our arrangements with the United States Government for the purchase of United States military aircraft. Each Agreement provides for repayment in fourteen half-yearly instalments. A detailed explanation of how the transactions will be recorded in the official balance of payments statistics was given in "Economic Trends" of June, 1967.

Taxation And Government Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state in terms of £ sterling per head of population the balance of payments between taxation paid and identifiable expenditure in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England, respectively.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Berwick and East Lothian (Mr. Mackintosh) on 20th November. Some figures are available for taxation and expenditure in Scotland, and England and Wales, and these have been given in reply to recent Questions. However, for the reasons given in reply to a Question from the hon. Member for Moray and Nairn (Mr. G. Campbell) on 9th November, the available figures are not comparable.—[Vol. 754, c. 283; Vol. 753, c. 159–70.]

Stamp Duty (Shipping Industry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) for how long Stamp Duty has been charged on all ship mortgage finance; what is the additional cost of this proposal to the shipping industry; and what representations have been made to him to waive the charge;(2) whether he is aware of the increasing anxiety caused to industry by the levying of new charges, such as Stamp Duty on all ship mortgages; and what consultations he has held with the shipping industry on this subject.

As from 1st August, 1967, loan capital duty at the rate of 10s. per £100 is chargeable on loan capital raised by companies unless the loan is repayable within five years or at the creditor's option on not more than twelve months' notice. A mortgage deed in respect of a ship is itself exempt from Stamp Duty. I have received no representations from the shipping industry as to the effect on them of the charge to loan capital duty.

Export Rebate

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will continue to pay export rebates on export contracts based on sterling and obtained before devaluation, regardless of delivery dates.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave on 8th December to Questions by the hon. Members for Cleveland (Mr. Tinn) and Liverpool, Wavertree (Mr. Tilney).—[Vol. 755, c. 411–2.]

Land Commission

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many persons are employed in district valuers' departments wholly or mainly on Land Commission work.

The valuation work for the Land Commission is integrated with the other duties of the Valuation Office. Apart from three officers who perform liaison duties, it is not possible to distinguish any members of the staff as engaged wholly or mainly on Land Commission work.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the present cost of that proportion of wages and salaries paid to employees of the Inland Revenue in respect of work performed on behalf of the Land Commission.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total amount paid in rates on all properties occupied by the Land Commission in 1967–68.

Properties occupied by the Land Commission are exempt from rates but, in accordance with the practice in respect of properties occupied by the Crown, a contribution in lieu of rates is paid by the Treasury; this is estimated at £75,000 for Land Commission properties in 1967–68.

Alcohol And Tobacco (Expenditure)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fact that deaths from lung cancer in 1966 numbered 30,483, and that there are 70,000 chronic alcoholics and 200,000 in the earlier stages of deterioration, what steps he proposes to take to moderate the national alcohol bill of £1,517,000,000, and tobacco bill of £1,504,000,000, and so help the nation live within its income.

More than half of this expenditure is absorbed by indirect taxation, any changes in the level of which would, of course, be a Budgetary matter.

Local Government

Building Regulations 1965

72 and 73.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) why additional provisions were added to the Building Regulations 1965, which prevented the use of painting and other surface treatments being taken into account in assessing the working life of a material, contrary to the information given on this subject in the British Standards Institute Code of Practice on the painting of buildings;(2) what steps are taken by his department to ensure that the provisions of Regulation B 3 of the Building Regulations, 965 do not inhibit the development of new external cladding materials; and what are the present provisions with regard to the testing of such materials before their use can be permitted under this Regulation.

The provisions of Regulation B 3 (3) of the building regulations were intended to clarify, not to vary, the position which had obtained under the byelaws. My right hon. Friend is always prepared to consider, along with other proposed amendments of the Regulations, any proposals for altering the list of materials in Regulation B 3, and in relation to any particular material would take account of all available test evidence.

Barnes (Conservation Area)

77.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will schedule the village of Barnes as a conservation area under the terms of the Civic Amenities Act 1967.

The Hon. Member should put his proposal to the Greater London Council and the Richmond Borough Council in the first instance, as the local authorities are primarily responsible for designating conservation areas.

Footpaths, Bridleways And Tracks (Survey)

79.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government which counties have complied with the requirement of the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act 1949 to complete the survey of footpaths, bridleways and old tracks; which counties have not yet complied; and what action he is taking to enforce compliance.

Definitive maps cannot be published until all disputes have been resolved, but recent progress towards completion of the survey has been good. Every effort is being made to expedite matters and my right hon. Friend has directed one county (York- shire East Riding) to publish its definitive map by the end of the year.Following is the available information:

Counties which have completed definitive maps for the whole of their area:
BerkshireRutland
BuckinghamshireShropshire
CumberlandStaffordshire
DorsetSuffolk (East)
DurhamSuffolk (West)
EssexSurrey
HampshireSussex (East)
HerefordshireWarwickshire
Isle of WightWestmorland
LancashireWiltshire
LeicestershireWorcestershire
Lincoln (Parts of Holland)Yorkshire (North Riding)
Lincoln (Parts of Kesteven)Anglesey
Breconshire
NorfolkCardiganshire
NorthamptonshireFlintshire
NorthumberlandMerioneth
OxfordshirePembrokeshire
Radnorshire
Counties which have completed definitive maps for the whole of their area:
BedfordshireKent
Cambridge and the Isle of ElyLincoln (Parts of Lindsey)
CheshireNottinghamshire
CornwallSomerset
DerbyshireSussex (West)
GloucestershireYorkshire (West Riding)
Hertfordshire
Huntingdon and PeterboroughCarmarthenshire
Monmouthshire
Counties still without definitive maps:
CaernarvonshireGlamorgan
DenbighshireMontgomeryshire
Yorkshire (East Riding)

Lea Valley Regional Park

80.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what study he has made of the effect on the proposed Lea Valley Regional Park of a major international airport at Stansted.

The realignment of the runways at Stansted is now being considered and the effect on the Lea Valley Regional Park is one of the considerations which will be taken into account.

Foreshores (Access)

81.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is aware that the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act 1949 has been used to permit alienation of certain of Great Britain's foreshores in such a way as to prevent their free use by bathers and other citizens; and if he will take steps by legislation or otherwise to amend that Act and to prevent these abuses.

No. The powers conferred by the National Parks and Access to the Countryside Act, 1949 have been used to facilitate access to the foreshore, not to deny it. If the hon. Member has any particular case in mind perhaps he would care to write to me about it.

National Board For Prices And Incomes (Recommendations)

83.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has to introduce legislation compelling local authorities to comply with the recommendations of the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

We must await the National Board for Prices and Incomes report before deciding what action may be needed in respect of any recommendations the Board may make.

Land Commission

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many persons are now employed by the Land Commission; and if he will give an estimate of the number who will be employed at the end of March, 1968.

Present total staff 1,468. Estimated number at the end of March, 1968, not more than 1,520.

Local authorityName of schemeAcreage of derelict land
Schemes on which grant has been fully paid
Durham C.C. Dean and Chapter Pit13·0
Gateshead C.B.CMoor Heap Quarries14·0
Hartlepool B.CMiddlegate0·6
Hetton U.D.C.Hetton Lyons Colliery20·5
Houghton-le-Spring U.D.C.Long Row—Shiney Row2·2
Stanley U.D.C.Lintz Old Colliery20·0
Dipton Colliery5·7
West Shield Row Colliery19·0
Sunderland C.B.CNorth Hylton Road9·7
Sunderland Airport11·0
Washington Road
Tow Law U.D.CNorth side B62972·0
Washington U.D.CUsworth Quarry8·1
West Hartlepool C.B.C.North of Princess Street1·5
North of Christchurch Parish Hall0·2
North of Gaumont Cinema0·9
Archer Street0·6
Robinson Street1·3

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the amount raised, in the form of levy, by the Land Commission to the latest convenient date; and what estimate he has made of the amount which would have been raised on the relevant transactions by Capital Gains Tax.

The amount assessed up to 1st December, 1967, was £226,500. No estimate has been made of the amount which would have been raised on these transactions by Capital Gains Tax.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will state the approximate annual cost of all wages and salaries at present paid in respect of employees of the Land Commission.

Derelict Land (Durham)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will publish a list of schemes for the removal of derelict sites in the county of Durham indicating those so far completed and the dates when the remainder are to be completed.

Information in this form is not available. Local authorities are responsible for the timing of schemes after approval for Exchequer grant which may be paid on completion of the work or by instalments as work proceeds. Details of schemes approved in Durham are as follows:

Local authority

Name of scheme

Acreage of derelict land

Schemes on which grant has been partly paid

Consett U.D.CTempletown (Stage I)20·0
Easington R.D.CShotton—Front Street11·0
Felling U.D.CFelling Shore49·0
Heworth Shore (I)2·1
Heworth Shore (II)6·2
Gateshead C.B.C.Coach Road8·2
Spennymoor U.D.C.Tudhoe Ironworks (Stage I)60·0
Sunderland C.B.CTown Moor7·0
Roker Park1·5
Whickham U.D.CAxwell Park7·0

Schemes on which no grant has yet been claimed

Bishop Auckland U.D.CEscomb Pit3·6
Blaydon U.D.CGaresfield Colliery30·2
Brandon and Byshottles U.D.C.Meadowfield Heap36·1
Crook and Willington U.D.C.Brancepeth Colliery waste heap47·9
Woodifield Colliery3·0
Durham B.C.Back Claypath1·5
Durham C.C.Cocken Terrace (Durham R.D.)2·5
Tudhoe Ironworks (School site), Spennymoor7·5
High Toft Quarry5·3
Hunter's Hill (Barnard Castle)6·7
Old Whitehouse Colliery (Durham R.D.)1·8
Victoria Road (Hebburn)10·3
Durham R.D CLambton Hill8·3
Hartlepool B.C.Spion Kop15·0
Jarrow B CSalt Grass—R Don30·7
Sedgfield R.D.CTrimdon Grange12·0
Spennymoor U.D.C.Tudhoe Ironworks (Stage II)(see Stage I)
Stanley U.D.C.Burns Pit Heap45·4
Dipton Delight Colliery8·4
South Tanfield Colliery—Kyo Lane12·7
East Pontop Pit Heaps15·8
Pontop Pit Heaps9·3

Historic Buildings

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will seek power to compel a local authority to repair and maintain a building of great architectural or historic value in its area.

Local authorities already have power to contribute towards the cost of repairing historic buildings or to acquire compulsorily those which are neglected. I would ask my hon. Friend to await the proposals shortly to be published in the Town and Country Planning Bill which will strengthen their hands in certain respects.

Housing

Mortgages

74.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will now make a statement about his talks with the building societies concerning 100 per cent. mortgages.

It is too early yet to make any statement. In the meantime we are working out the precise details of the scheme so that it will be ready when the time comes.

Council House Rents (National Board For Prices And Incomes)

75.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will give the names of those local authorities whose recent rent increases he intends to refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster on 11th December to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow, East (Mr. Roebuck): that reply gave the names of the local authorities concerned.—[Vol. 756, c. 41–2.]

Rent Assessment Committees

76.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government to what extent rent assessment committees in making their decisions have given con- sideration to complaints by landlords that rents are inadequate to enable them to maintain their property in good condition.

Section 27(1) of the Rent Act, 1965, requires rent assessment committees, like rent officers, to have regard in determining a fair rent to all circumstances except personal circumstances, and especially to the age, character and locality of the dwelling and its state of repair.

82.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what guidance he has given to the chairmen of rent assessment committees or rent tribunals during the last 12 months as to the level at which rents should be fixed.

Rent assessment committees and rent tribunals operate independently under statute and my right hon. Friend has no power to issue guidance on the levels of rent they should fix.

Council Houses, Lowestoft (Completions)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many council houses have been provided at Lowestoft in each of the last three years; and what is the estimated number for 1968.

The numbers of local authority dwellings completed in Lowestoft in the last three years, and the first ten months of 1967, are shown below. Most of the dwellings now under construction are in one large scheme which, if completed in 1968, would itself provide more dwellings than have been completed in any of the last three years.

Local Authority dwelling completed in Lowestoft Borough
Number of dwellings
196496
196510
196619
1967 (first ten months)61

Compulsory Purchase Order (Hull)

78.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will confirm the 1965 Compulsory Purchase Order for Marlborough Terrace/Pryme Street/Wright Street, Hull, the public inquiry for which was held on 23rd November, 1966.

My right hon. Friend hopes to be able to issue his decision on the Order by the end of this month.

Fair Rent Applications (Gateshead)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many applications for determination of a fair rent have been made to the rent officer in Gateshead; how many are outstanding; and what is the average time taken for the hearing to be held and a decision given.

Up to 24th November, 1967, 304 applications had been received, of which 34 were subsequently withdrawn; 131 of the applications were received in the week ending 17th November, and there are 138 applications outstanding. Up to now, applications have been decided on average four weeks after receipt.

Economic Affairs

Industrial Reorganisation Corporation Act, 1966

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he is aware that incentives offered in development areas fail to attract industry to many isolated localities of high unemployment; and if he will consider using the powers under Section 2(1)(b) of the Industrial Reorganisation Corporation Act, 1966, to establish industrial enterprises owned and sponsored by the State in these areas.

The massive inducements now available to industries to set up in the Development Areas have not yet exerted their full effect. With the coming upswing in the economy much more industry will be setting up in all parts of the Development Areas, including the more isolated localities. If, however, a case arises wheres the I.R.C. may be able to help in particular circumstances my right hon. Friend will not hesitate to ask them.

Manufactured Goods (Price Increases)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will seek powers to deter manufacturers from basing necessary devaluation price increases on previous selling price rather than on cost price, thus increasing profits, and to provide that, in future, Government requests on such matters shall not be ignored.

Manufacturers are being advised by the Government Departments concerned that increases in prices due to devaluation should be no greater than is justified by the increase in overall costs. The Government will make full use of their existing powers in all appropriate cases.

Anglo-Italian Relations

85.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's policy towards a special relationship between Great Britain and Italy.

Her Majesty's Government have always attached great importance to this country's traditional friendship with Italy. The Italian Gov-

UNIVERSITIES OF SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATES WHO ENTERED THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND EXECUTIVE GRADES OF THE FOREIGN SERVICE (1963–64) AND THE DIPLOMATIC SERVICE (1965–67) BY OPEN COMPETITION
Year of taking up appointmentOxford and CambridgeOther UniversitiesNo University
Grade 9Grades 8Grades 7 and 5Grade 9Grade 8Grades 7 and 5Grade 9Grades 8Grades 7 and 5
(Executive)(Administrative)(Executive)(Administrative)(Executive)(Administrative)
1963319 (4)6 (9)53— (2)18—(1)
1964813 (7)3 (5)211(3)20
19655206567331
1966718743241
1967115483181
Totals2485(11)26(14)241610(5)1302(1)
NOTE: Figures in brackets denote entrants to the Administrative Grades of the Commonwealth Relations Office before the creation of the Diplomatic Service on 1st January, 1965.

Vicuna Skins (International Agreement)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will seek an international agreement with the United States of America, France and Belgium on the import of vicuna skins.

If my hon. Friend would care to write and describe the sort of international agreement he has in mind, I would be happy to have the Question looked into.

ernment has been consistently firm and helpful in its support of our application to join the European Communities.

Diplomatic Service University Entrants)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what proportion of the entrants to the Foreign Service has been recruited from provincial universities, as opposed to Oxford and Cambridge, in each of the last five years.

The total number of direct entrants to the Administrative Grades of the Diplomatic Service by Open Competition from Oxford and Cambridge since 1962 is 136. During the same period 31 entered from other universities, while 3 were non-graduates. A breakdown of these figures is shown below. There is also some graduate entry into the Executive Grades of the Service, although the bulk of recruitment is from non-graduates. The figures for Executive Grade entry are also included in the table.

Non-Proliferation Treaty

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on the progress achieved in securing an agreed draft for a non-proliferation treaty.

The negotiations have continued, but the position is still substantially as described to the House on 2nd November. Her Majesty's Government trust that their offer on safeguards which I announced to the House on 4th December, will assist in bringing these negotiations to a speedy and successful conclusion.—[Vol. 753, c. 462; Vol. 755, c 963.]

School Medical Service(Ministerial Responsibility)

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will transfer responsibility for the school medical service from the Department of Education and Science to the Ministry of Health.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave on 2nd March, 1967, to a similar Question by him.—[Vol. 742, c. 150.]

Pit Closures

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied that sufficient consultations take place between the National Coal Board, regional planning councils, the Board of Trade- and the Department of Economic Affairs, pending pit closures, in order that adequate preparation can be made for the provision of alternative employment for men not reabsorbed in coalmining; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. My hon. Friend will be aware of the announcement made on this question on 29th September, 1967. It is my belief that these arrangements are working effectively.

Members Of Parliament (Salary Reductions)

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister whether, having regard to Her Majesty's Government's present economic policy, he will propose temporary reductions in the salaries of Ministers and Members of Parliament.

Television Programme (Mr Peter Jay)

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister at what hour on which day during discussions with Rediffusion Television his office, acting on his instructions, objected to the inclusion of Mr. Peter Jay on the programme, "This Week", on 23rd November.

Mr. Jay's name was mentioned as a potential interviewer and the suggestion was made, during the late afternoon of Tuesday, 21st November, that a better balance might be achieved by introducing a journalist with experience of prices and incomes, and industrial matters.

Government Contracts

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister what instructions he has given to Ministers about the need to establish equality of information with contractors when undertaking public purchasing; and if he will make a statement.

All Departments seek adequate information from the contractor for the fixing of a contract price which is reasonable and fair to both sides. Negotiations with industry on means of ensuring that both parties have equal access to such information are at an advanced stage and the Government hopes to bring them to an early conclusion.

Compulsory Purchase (Ministerial Responsibility)

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister how many representations he has received, since coming into office, regarding compensation for compulsory purchase; and whether he will make a Minister solely responsible for all problems in respect thereof.

As to the first part of the hon. Member's Question, I regret that the information sought could only be obtained at a disproportionate expenditure of time and money; as to the second part, I have no evidence that the present arrangements for Ministerial responsibility are causing difficulty but if the hon. Member would care to make specific proposals I will be happy to have them examined.

Suez Canal

asked the Prime Minister whether he will make the immediate release of British vessels trapped in the Bitter Lakes a condition of the supply of refined petroleum products to the United Arab Republic; and whether he will so inform President Nasser and the British oil companies directly concerned in any such supply activities.

Ministry Of Education And Science (Abolition Of Offices)

asked the Prime Minister, in view of the nation's inability to earn its living and the unwillingness of foreign bankers to grant further loans to Great Britain, if he will abolish the offices of Minister of State for the Arts and Under-Secretary of State for Sports and the expenditure relating thereto as a first step towards making the nation live within its income.

I do not accept —and I am surprised at the hon. Member accepting—the two assertions in the first part of his Question. The Answer to the second part of his Question is "No".

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Foot-And-Mouth Disease

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether his Department gave advice on the stopping of pigeon racing during the foot-and-mouth epidemic; and whether he will make a statement.

All poultry on an infected place are required to be confined. Apart from this pigeon racing would not in itself constitute a risk, and my Department has not advised that it should be stopped.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement regarding the offer to him, dated 25th November, by Mr. Stuart Ponsford-Raymond, for testing of two cows which had been receiving the protection of homeopathic borax; and what reply he has sent.

A letter has been sent to Mr. Ponsford-Raymond on my behalf expressing my gratitude for his generosity; explaining that I fully understand why he and his neighbours have been trying the use of borax in present circumstances, but that in the view of my veterinary advisers there is no value in this treatment; and declining his kind offer.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in view of the fact that the campaign to eradicate foot-and-mouth disease of the 0·1 strain may last for many months, if he will arrange for regular rest periods for his veterinary staff, and establish a strategic reserve ready to man new headquarters which may have to be set up in areas well away from the existing infected areas.

Yes, as far as practicable. A reserve to take charge of new centres is available.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what contingency plans he has for training suitable auxiliary personnel who would be needed in the event of vaccination of animals against foot-and-mouth disease having to be carried out concurrently with the present slaughter policy.

The arrangements for operating a vaccination programme should the need arise are complete. I have had excellent co-operation from veterinary surgeons in private practice and there is no need to train auxiliary personnel to undertake vaccination, though auxiliary personnel will be used to aid the veterinary surgeons.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what definite evidence he has that the present outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease, or any previous outbreaks, have arisen from infection by imported meat from Argentina or Uruguay.

As I have already stated, I have no evidence of the origin of the present epidemic and reports that it is connected with imported meat are speculative. With regard to past outbreaks, I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer which I gave on 8th December to the hon. Member for Richmond, Yorks (Mr. Kitson).—[Vol. 755, c. 420–1.]

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what at the last census was the approximate number of cattle, sheep and pigs in the United Kingdom; what percentage of this number have so far been slaughtered; and at what percentage of infected animals he intends to abandon temporarily the policy of total slaughter.

The approximate numbers of cattle, sheep and pigs in the United Kingdom at the June, 1967 census were:

Cattle12·3 million
Sheep28·9 million
Pigs7·1 million
The percentages of these numbers slaughtered so far in the present epidemic are:

Cattle1·2 per cent.
Sheep0·2 per cent.
Pigs1·1 per cent.
A decision to depart from the present stamping-out policy would depend not only on the proportion of animals slaughtered, but on other factors as well.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to help farmers who have lost their stock from foot-and-mouth disease.

In view of the exceptional difficulties caused by this severe and prolonged epidemic I intend to seek Parliamentary authority for a special ploughing-up grant of £10 an acre to help farmers in infected areas who have lost their stock and wish to expand their cropping as a temporary measure. Farmers who would otherwise have qualified for the beef cow, hill cow, and hill sheep subsidies will not lose those subsidies because their stock have been prematurely slaughtered, nor will they lose the calf subsidy because of the delay to inspections while my officers have been unable to visit farms. I shall arrange for payments under the Farm Improvement and Horticulture Improvement Schemes, to be made on account before final inspection of the work done. A number of other questions including the effect of taxation on compensation and supply of suitable replacement stock are being discussed with the Farmers' Union and I shall make a further statement as soon as possible. Meantime my technical services are ready to advise farmers on how they can best plan for getting back into production again.

Tenant Fanners (Tenure)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce legislation for protecting the tenure of the near family of a deceased agricultural tenant.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Merioneth (Mr. William Edwards) on 7th December.— [Vol. 755, c. 377.]

Animal Feedingstuffs (Price Increases)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give an undertaking that millers and corn merchants will not be prevented by the Government's prices and incomes policy from raising the prices of animal feedingstuffs by the full amount necessitated by devaluation and the 8 per cent. Bank rate; and if he will make a statement.

Any notifications from manufacturers of animal feedingstuffs of proposed price increases as a result of devaluation and other causes will be examined within the framework of the early warning system. I am meeting representatives of the major food trades to discuss with them the Government's policy on prices in the light of devaluation.

Bread Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has for increases in the price of bread resulting from devaluation.

It is not yet possible to say what increase in the price of bread might result from devaluation. Any proposal to increase bread prices would have to be notified under the early warning system and examined by my Department.

Wheat (Deficiency Payment)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, in view of the need to replace imported animal feedingstuffs with home-grown grain, if he will extend the subsidy on homegrown wheat to include wheat for animal feed as well as milling wheat, and alter the method of payment of subsidy to en able farmers who wish to retain their wheat to feed their own stock.

Wheat for animal feed is already eligible for deficiency payment provided it is certified on sale to be of millable quality. I have no evidence that the present method of payment is holding back production.

Commonwealth Affairs

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will propose to the Commonwealth Sanctions Committee that they recommend the banning of trade with any company which violates sanctions against the illegal Rhodesian régime.

All practical means to make sanction more effective are constantly under review by Her Majesty's Government. The proceedings of the Commonwealth Sanctions Committee are, however, confidential and I cannot disclose what proposals Her Majesty's Government have made, or would be prepared to make, to the Committee.

St Vincent Island

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement regarding the constitutional advancement of the island of St. Vincent.

A decision on the timing of St. Vincent's constitutional advance must await completion of discussions with the Government of the territory over the detailed provisions of the new Constitution.

Sierra Leone

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government regarding recognition of the Government of Sierra Leone, following the findings of the Dove Edwin Commission, a copy of which has been sent to him.

Her Majesty's Government continue to recognise the National Reformation Council as the Government of Sierra Leone. I would refer my hon. Friend to the written reply given to the hon. and learned Member for Buckinghamshire, South (Mr. Ronald Bell), the hon. Member for Chigwell (Mr. Biggs-Davison), to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall), and to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Wavertree (Mr. Tilney) on 25th April, 1967.—[Vol. 186, c. 246–7.]

Ministry Of Defence

Anglo-American Offset Agreement

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, in view of the expected higher cost of the F111 aircraft, he will negotiate for correspondingly a higher offset from the United States of America in the purchase of United Kingdom equipment.

This is a matter for discussion with the United States Government which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence is considering.

Hospitals

Textiles

asked the Minister of Health what proportion of the total usage in hospitals in the United Kingdom of finished textile products is represented by articles made from imported cloth as against domestic production in the years 1964 to date.

asked the Minister of Health what progress has been made to. wards rationalising the system of bulk purchasing of textile items and clothing, for use by both patients and staff in hospitals, through hospital supplies committees; whether such committees will be placed on a regional basis; and how many such committees will be established.

Hospital authorities have been encouraged to set up joint and area purchasing arrangements for supplies items, including textiles, and much progress has been made in recent years. I shall shortly be issuing a memorandum inviting each regional hospital board to set up a regional supplies committee and to submit for approval plans for the organisation of purchasing throughout the region.

asked the Minister of Health what action has been taken for the standardisation of specifications for construction, types and sizes of textile items for use in hospitals; and what consultations have taken place with manufacturers and suppliers.

Five specification working groups have been set up to consider textile items; three have submitted reports which are being considered and the other two will be reporting shortly. The groups consult with industry as necessary.

Ministry Of Labour

Shipbuilding Industry Training Board

asked the Minister of Labour on what grounds he approved the policies of the Shipbuilding Industry Training Board in respect of levies and grants during the first two years of its existence, in view of the fact that it was extracting levy but refusing grants to such firms as Viking Maine, Gosport, who use modern and non-traditional materials and methods; and if he will seek to amend the scheme so as to provide compensation to firms, which have to pay the unrequited levy in addition to financing their own training schemes.

The Shipbuilding Industry Training Board has, with my approval, adopted a gradual approach to the spreading of training costs pending the establishment of satisfactory standards of training for the various occupations. The rate of levy has therefore been lower than if it had been designed to cover the full costs of training and firms in the industry have had, in general, to finance their own training schemes assisted only partially by grants from the Board. The Board's grant scheme for the current year is wider than for the two previous years and includes provisions for grants towards the training of boat-builders using modern materials like fibre glass.

Road Haulage Industry

asked the Minister of Labour what proportion of the total number of men employed in the road haulage industry in the North-East of Scotland is engaged in long-distance haulage; and what is the proportion for Scotland as a whole.

At mid-1966, the numbers of male employees in North-East Scotland and in the whole of Scotland in the road haulage industry (Minimum List Heading 703 of the Standard Industrial Classification) were estimated to be about 2,000 and 22,400 respectively. The estimates do not distinguish separately those who worked in long-distance haulage.

asked the Minister of Labour (1) what is the number of men employed in the road haulage industry in the employment exchange areas of Banchory, Stonehaven, Brechin and Montrose; and in each place what proportion it represents of total male employment;(2) what is the number of men employed in the road haulage industry in Scotland, and in England and Wales; and what proportion it represents of total male employment;(3) what is the number of men employed in the road haulage industry in each of the counties of Banff, Aberdeenshire, Kincardineshire and Angus and in the cities of Aberdeen and Dundee; and in each area what proportion it represents of total male employment.

Following is the information:

NUMBER OF MALE EMPLOYEES IN THE ROAD HAULAGE INDUSTRY (MINIMUM LIST HEADING 703 OF THE STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION) AND THE PROPORTION THAT THEY FORMED OF MALE EMPLOYEES IN ALL INDUSTRIES AND SERVICES AT MID-1966
Male employees in the road haulage industryProportion of all male employees per cent.
England and Wales176,8001·3
Scotland22,4001·6
Aberdeenshire, Banffshire and Kincardineshire1,9002·2
Angus1,1001·5

These figures are estimates and in particular the figures for individual industries for smaller areas are subject to very wide margins of error. For this reason combined estimates only are given for (a) Aberdeenshire, Banffshire and Kincardineshire and (b) Angus.

Home Department

Books (Expert Commission)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will set up an expert Commission, similar to the recent Danish one, details of which have been sent to him, which will review the effects of books and the position of publishers under the law.

American Citizens (Extradition)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will seek to revoke the present agreement by which United States citizens in the United Kingdom are extraditable for evasion of military service.

Parole Board

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many cases have so far been considered by the Parole Board: and how many cases are on the waiting list;(2) what plans he has for speeding up the work of the Parole Board.

The Board, which held its first meeting on 7th November, has so far had 49 cases referred to it. Many other cases are in various stages of consideration either in the prisons or in the Home Office, but it is too early to say how many will be referred to the Board. The machinery for preparing cases for reference is being kept under review.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what administrative help is available to the Parole Board in the conduct of their task;(2) what further secretarial and expert assistance is required by the Parole Board; and what steps he proposes to take in the matter.

The Board has a senior executive officer from my Department as secretary and appropriate clerical and typing assistance. It is free to request advice or information from officers of the Department or from local review committees as it requires. I have not received any representations about the adequacy of these arrangements.

Seebohm Committee (Report)

asked the First Secretary of State when the Seebohm Committee Report will be published.

I have been asked to reply. I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Plymouth, Devonport (Dame Joan Vickers) on 6th November.—[Vol. 735. c. 50.]

Poisons Board (Quinine)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has yet taken a decision on the recommendations of the Poisons Board concerning the sale of quinine.

The Poisons Board has considered representations against its earlier recommendations concerning quinine, and is reporting to me shortly. Further consultations may be necessary, but I wish to bring this matter to a conclusion as soon as possible.

Roadside Breath Tests (Newcastle-Upon-Tyne)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will obtain a report from the chief constables concerned as to how many people have had the breathalyser test in Newcastle-upon-Tyne and in Newburn urban district, and with what results.

Statistical returns so far received indicate that in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, during the period 9th to 31st October, twenty-one people were required to take breath tests under Section 2 of the Road Safety Act 1967. In three cases the test indicated that the person concerned had more than the prescribed proportion of alcohol in his blood.

The Chief Constable of Northumberland informs me that breath tests were required of two people in the Newburn Sub-Division of his force during the period 9th October to 6th December, and that the result in each case indicated a blood alcohol concentration above the prescribed limit.

Speed Limit Prosecutions (Newcastle-Upon-Tyne)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will obtain a report from the chief constable

12 months ended 31st October
Radar1966 Motor patrolTotalRadar1967 Motor patrolTotal
Kenton Lane27113811819
Ponteland Road 492271771087
West Road1157418922561286
Total19110729831379392

Public Buildings And Works

Baguley Hall, Manchester

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what further communication he has recently had with Manchester Corporation about the future of Baguley Hall; what action he proposes to take; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

Manchester Corporation have informed me that they do not feel able to contribute towards the cost of repairing Baguley Hall.They are now considering my further request to transfer it to my Ministry on the basis that I accept responsibility, as I am prepared to do in the national interest, in view of Manchester's decision not to contribute.

Land Commission (Premises)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of the premises occupied by the Land Commission, stating in each case whether the premises are freehold or leasehold, and giving the purchase price in the case of freehold properties, premium paid, the annual rent and date of revision in the case of leasehold properties.

as to how many motorists have been prosecuted for exceeding the speed limits on Kenton Lane, Ponteland Road, and West Road, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, during the 12 months ended October 1966 and the like period ended October 1967; how many were apprehended as a result of detection by radar meter; and how many were apprehended as a result of being followed by police vehicles.

The Chief Constable of Newcastle-upon-Tyne informs me that prosecutions were instituted as follows:

The following premises are occupied by the Land Commission: —

PremisesTenure with lease expiry date
Headquarters
Government Buildings, Kenton Bar, NewcastleFreehold (£216,000)
Glen House, Stag Place, London Leasehold (1974)
Regional Offices
Government Buildings, Ty-Glas Avenue, Llanishen, CardiffFreehold (£103,000)
Bridge House, Clifton Down, BristolFreehold (£48,500 in 1950)
Concord House, CroydonLeasehold (1987)
Forbury House, ReadingLeasehold (1987)
St. Clare House, Grey-friars, IpswichLeasehold (1987)
Birkbeck House, Trinity Square, NottinghamLeasehold (1979)
Auchinleck House, Broad Street, BirminghamLeasehold (1981)
Royal Exchange Buildings, City Square, LeedsLeasehold (1988)
Aldine House, New Bailey Street, SalfordLeasehold (1987)
Warwick House, Grantham Road, NewcastleLeasehold (1979)
Buildings K.1–30 Centre
South, M.6–50 Centre
South Cumbernauld, ScotlandLeasehold (1987)
Total rental for leased premises is £167,000 a year. It is not my practice to disclose rents paid for individual premises, or other terms of the lease.

Scotland

Police Officers (Public Complaints)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many complaints were made against police officers by members of the public in each of the last three years; how many were substantiated; and how many police man hours were involved in the investigations.

In 1966 763 complaints were made against police officers of which 353 were found to be groundless and 126 were withdrawn by the complainer; in 1965 there were 721 complaints of which 358 were found to be groundless and 126 were withdrawn; figures for 1964 are not readily available. I am not in a position

County196219631964196519661967 (up to 30th September, 1967)
Aberdeen84694546269
Angus124513332667
Argyll34125
Ayr613222
Banff10323016356
Berwick15291921234
Bute13
Caithness 818234444
Clackmannan131
Dumfries1211123
Dunbarton4361
East Lothian2073211464
Fife66784714147
Inverness2131435
Kincardine1493721
Kinross11111
Kirkcudbright56154
Lanark8671140
Midlothian78109877
Moray31576
Nairn41
Orkney3121
Peebles15171
Perth773237211453
Renfrew2312
Ross213
Roxburgh4355252608
Selkirk412121
Shetland
Stirling59318222
Sutherland1
West Lothian865241
Wigtown827102
Total597474551341343214

Foreign Fishing Vessels (Arrests)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many foreign fishing vessels have been arrested for illegally fishing within the widened fishing limits;

to say how many of the remaining complaints were substantiated, but I would refer my hon. Friend to paragraphs 91 and 73, respectively, of the Reports of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary for Scotland for 1966 and 1965. I regret that information on the number of man hours spent investigating complaints is not available.

Cattle (Tuberculin Tests)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many reactions to the tuberculin tests for cattle were reported in each county of Scotland in each of the past five years.

The information is set out in the table below:how many prosecutions were brought; and what was the average fine imposed.

Since 30th September, 1964, when the Fishery Limits Act 1964 came into force extending the British fishery limits, 14 foreign fishing vessels have been arrested for illegal fishing within the limits off the Scottish coast. All were prosecuted and a conviction was obtained in each case. The fines imposed ranged from £50 to £250, the average being £179, and in six cases the catch and fishing gear were forfeited also.

Power Stations (Capital Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the expected capital cost per kilowatt of the nuclear station Hunterston A, and the actual cost of the coal-fired station Kincardine.

On Hunterston A I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave him yesterday. The actual capital cost of the coal-fired station at Kincardine was £50 per kilowatt sent out.—[Vol. 756, c. 60.]

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what he estimates to be the effect on the average price paid for electricity by domestic and industrial consumers throughout the South of Scotland Electricity Board area of achieving the forecast savings of cost expected from building the Hunterston B advance gas-cooled reactor power station, by comparison with a coal-fired station of the

1960–611961–621962–631963–641964–651965–661966–67
£££££££
2785,641Nil5,0001,2041,4998,906
In addition a total of £43,657 was paid in the same period to the Scottish Council of Physical Recreation for capital expenditure on the National Recreation Centre at Glenmore Lodge, Inverness-shire.

Sheep Freight Charge (Western Isles)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give an assurance that the recommendations of the Highland Transport Board regarding a subsidy on freight for sheep from island areas will be applied throughout the Western Isles constituency.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Inverness (Mr. Russell Johnston) on 6th December.—[Vol. 755, c. 301.]

same capacity, assuming that all other factors remain unchanged.

The annual saving in the mid-1970s is estimated by the Board to be about £3.5 million, representing 0·03d. per unit.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what will be the extra capital cost of the nuclear power station Hunterston B by comparison with a coal-fired power station of the same capacity.

The estimated capital cost of Hunterston B is £87·5 million. The capital cost of a coal-fired station of similar capacity would be about £60 million.

Sport And Physical Recreation (Capital Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of the capital grants paid in respect of sport and physical recreation in the Highlands and Islands counties in each of the years 1960 to 1967.

The total amounts paid in capital grants towards the cost of facilities in Argyll, Caithness, Inverness-shire, Orkney, Ross and Cromarty, Sutherland and Zetland were as follows:

Housing (Isle Of Lewis And Ross-Shire)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the numbers of houses started and completed by Ross and Cromarty County Council in the Isle of Lewis and Ross-shire mainland, respectively, in each of the years 1960 to 1967, inclusive; and what is the estimated number to be started in each of the next three years in Lewis.

I regret that this information is not available from the returns made to me by the Council.

Population (Highlands And Islands)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the loss or gain in population in each of the Highlands and Islands counties in 1966–67; and what were the corresponding figures for each of the last five years.

Estimates of the losses or gains in the populations of the individual counties in 1966–67 will not be available until about the middle of January. The corresponding estimates for each of the

POPULATION GAIN (+) OR LOSS (-)
1961–621962–631963–641964–651965–66Total change over5 years
Argyll-183+159-739-119-697-1,579
Caithness+488+339+46-105-131+637
Inverness-574-331-768+524+2,782+1,633
Orkney-105-40-67-179-143-534
Ross and Cromarty-26+18+162-128-312-286
Sutherland-47-49+119-73-65-115
Zetland-153-12+194-205-143-319

Social Security

Supplementary Benefits (Lewis And Harris)

asked the Minister of Social Security how many families there were in the Lewis and Harris area at the November count in Stornoway, whose supplementary benefits were being paid at a reduced rate because of the wage stop.

Ninety-two in the area covered by the Stornoway Office, which area includes Lewis and Harris.

Aviation

British United Airways (Alderney Service)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that British United Airways propose to withdraw services to Alderney from 15th January, 1968; and whether, in view of their failure to notify the Air Transport Licensing Board of this proposal, he will make provision by regulation under Section 5(d) of the Civil Aviation (Licensing) Act 1960 for representations to be made to him regarding the fitness of this company to operate other air services to the Channel Islands.

The Board of Trade and the Home Office are in close touch with the Channel Islands authorities on this matter. I understand that the continuation of the Alderney service is still a possibility. I should point

previous five years are set out in the table below. It should be noted that the annual figures for individual counties are unreliable as year-by-year indications of population change, since they include in some cases corrections to reconcile the estimates with the censuses. The totals for the five-year period are more reliable.

out that there is no requirement on an operator to inform the Air Transport Licensing Board in advance of his intention to discontinue a service, nor is there any power to compel an operator to maintain a service.

International Air Tariffs

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has approved the increases in international air tariffs which were agreed by an emergency conference of the International Air Transport Association on 25th November; and what estimate he has made of the effect of these increases on the prices of inclusive tour charter holidays.

The Board of Trade has approved the Resolutions of the International Air Transport Association, introducing modifications in international air tariffs to take account of the new exchange rates. The effect of these modifications is, in general, to maintain those international air fares and cargo rates which are expressed in sterling at their pre-devaluation level in terms of foreign currencies. In some cases, however, the sterling tariffs have been left unchanged or have been increased by a smaller proportion. Since the increases all relate to international tariffs, it is not appropriate to refer them to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.The effect of these increases would normally be to raise the minimum price which United Kingdom operators, as a result of Provision I of their air service licences, are required to charge for inclusive tour charter holidays.

The Government have, however, decided that for the present winter season the minimum prices for such holidays should not be raised. Accordingly, the Board of Trade have, under the terms of Provision I, today approved a tariff which will have the effect of keeping the minimum prices for these holidays at the pre-devaluation level. This will not, however, affect the charges for inclusive tours on scheduled services operated by the airlines which are members of I.A.T.A., and which are bound by the relevant I.A.T.A. Resolutions. Urgent consideration is being given to the minimum prices to apply to inclusive tour charters during the summer season of 1968, where wider issues are involved, and it is hoped to make a very early announcement. Meanwhile tour organisers should in appropriate cases consider advising intending holidaymakers that advertised prices may have to be increased.

Board Of Trade

Argentine Meat (Import Ban)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the effect of banning meat imports from Argentina on the reduction of the imbalance of trade with that country.

I have been asked to reply.It is not possible to estimate reliably We effect on the trade balance with Argentina of the temporary ban on imports of meat.

Board Of Trade Factories, Wales

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will state the number of Government-owned factories at present tenanted in Wales and the total rentals per annum received.

The number of Board of Trade factories at present tenanted in Wales is 322; approximately fl million per annum.

Scottish Coalfield (Factories)

asked the President of the Board of Trade in what areas of the Scottish coalfield 55 firms since the beginning of 1965 have decided to set up factories; and when the factories are expected to be fully manned.

The employment exchange areas and groups in which, since the beginning of 1965, 55 firms have decided to set up factories in the Scottish coalfield are set out below. Forty of the factories have already commenced production, while the remaining schemes are at earlier stages. In view of the varying length of time which factories take to build up their full labour force it is not possible to say when the 55 schemes will be fully manned.

Glasgow GroupBathgate/Broxburn/East and West Calder
North Lanarkshire Group (including Shoots)Cowdenbeath/Inverkeithing/Dunfermline/Burntisland
Dalry/KilbirnieKirkcaldy/Glenrothes/Leven
Ayr/TroonGirvan
CumnockSanquhar

Transport

Freight Integration Council

asked the Minister of Transport how many invitations she has issued to people to join the Freight Integration Council; how many have been accepted; how many have been refused; and for what reasons.

The necessary preliminary soundings leading to the appointment of members of public bodies are best conducted in confidence.

Road And Rail Freight (Scotland)

asked the Minister of Transport what is the distribution of freight in the north-east of Scotland between road and rail carrier; and what is the distribution for Scotland as a whole.

Goods Vehicle Licences (Scotland)

asked the Minister of Transport how many licences for commercial road vehicles of over 30 hundredweight unladen weight have been issued in Scotland in each of the past five years.

At the full censuses taken in the third quarters of 1960 and 1966 the number of general goods vehicles over 1½ tons unladen weight with current excise licences was 56,830 and 59,848 respectively. Comparable figures are not readily available for the intermediate years when only sample censuses were taken.

Cattle Floats(North-East Scotland)

asked the Minister of Transport how many one- and two-tier cattle floats have been licensed in each of the north-eastern counties of Scotland during each of the past five years.

Roads

Maintenance (Cost)

asked the Minister of Transport, taking 1st November 1963 as 100, what estimate she has made of the indices of cost of maintenance of roads at 1st November for each year from 1964 to 1967.

Estimates of the indices of the cost of maintenance of roads for November each year have been calculated as follows:

1963100
1964105
1965109
1966114
Figures for November 1967 are not yet available.

Road Lighting (Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Transport what was the amount of local government expenditure on the lighting of roads in each of the years from 1963–64 to 1967–68.

I have nothing to add to the answer given to the hon. Member on the same subject on 5th December.—[Vol. 755, c. 273.]

asked the Minister of Transport what was the amount of Government expenditure on the lighting of roads in each of the years from 1963–64 to 1967–68.

The information for Great Britain, is as follows:

£
1963–64530,000
1964–65461,500
1966–67538,000
1966–67505,000 (provisional)
Figures for 1967–68 are not yet available.

Construction (Cost)

asked the Minister of Transport, taking 1st November 1963 as 100, what estimate she has made of the indices of cost of road construction at 1st November for each year from 1964 to 1967.

Figures are not available in precisely this form. In contracts let during 1964 and 1966, the average cost of road construction was estimated to be about 4 per cent. and 9 per cent. higher respectively than in 1963.The estimate for 1967 is not yet available.

Parking (Cost)

asked the Minister of Transport, taking 1st November 1963 as 100, what estimate she has made of the indices of cost of parking at 1st November for each year from 1964 to 1967.

School Warning Signs (Lowestoft)

asked the Minister of Transport whether she is aware of the concern that the school warning signs on the main trunk road at Kirkley Cliff, Lowestoft, are inadequate; and, in view of the school's willingness to pay for proper signs to be erected, whether she will instruct her officers to consult the school authorities on the matter.

I cannot usefully add to my letters of 6th November and 7th December.