Written Answers To Questions
Tuesday, 19th December, 1967
Technology
Concorde Aircraft
asked the Minister of Technology what are now the estimated maiden flight dates of the first and second prototypes of Concorde.
The scheduled dates are 28th February next for the first prototype and September next for the second prototype. There are some stages still to be completed on the first prototype, any one of which might give rise to a delay of the first flight, but the prospects are sufficiently good to justify retaining a date that is still attainable if all goes according to plan.
asked the Minister of Technology whether he will make a statement on the effects of devaluation upon the costs to Great Britain of the Concorde research and development programme.
The sterling cost of the work to be done in Britain will increase slightly owing to the higher costs of certain materials and equipment that have to be imported from third countries.
Research And Development(Northern Region)
asked the Minister of Technology what proposals he has for extending and improving research and development facilities in the Northern Region; and if he will make a statement.
The Department is encouraging links between industry and the Universities and Technical Colleges in the region and is in touch with International Research and Development in Newcastle regarding further research contracts. The National Research Development Corporation has authorised expenditure up to £1·4 million in the Northern Region in the last 18 months.
asked the Minister of Technology what discussions he as had with the North Regional Planning Council on a programme of technological development for the region, and in particular the provision of research and development units; and if he will make a statement.
The Council's Report "Challenge of the Changing North" included recommendations on technological development which were discussed with the Chairman and other representatives of the Council at a meeting with Ministers earlier this year.
asked the Minister of Technology how many research stations are in the Northern Region; and how this number compares with the other regions covered by his Department.
There are no research stations of the Ministry of Technology in the Northern Region. The number (excluding out-stations) in other regions are:
| Scotland | 2 |
| Wales | Nil |
| North West | Nil |
| Yorkshire and Humberside | Nil |
| East Midlands | Nil |
| West Midlands | 1 |
| South West | 2 |
| South East | 12 |
asked the Minister of Technology how many grant-aided research associations are in the Northern Region; and what is the comparison with other regions.
The numbers of grant-aided research associations in the various Regions are as follows:
| Northern Region | 1 |
| Yorkshire and Humberside | 9 |
| North West | 2 |
| East Midlands | 5 |
| West Midlands | 5 |
| South West | 1 |
| East Anglia | 1 |
| London and South East | 19 |
| Scotland | 1 |
| N. Ireland | 1 |
asked the Minister of Technology what estimate he has made of the number of private industrial laboratories in the Northern Region; and what is the comparison with other regions.
The Ministry has regular contact with some 87 private industrial laboratories in the Northern Region but no comprehensive information on the location of laboratories in Britain is available to provide a basis for comparison with other regions.
asked the Minister of Technology how many independent and sponsored research laboratories there are in the Northern Region; and what is the comparison with other regions.
There is one large independent and sponsored research laboratory in the Northern Region. There are eight smaller laboratories in the South-East Region, one in East Anglia and one in Scotland. One subsidiary company of a large U.S. organisation has an office in London.
asked the Minister of Technology what was the total value of research and development contracts placed in the Northern Region in each of the last five years; and what is the comparison with other regions.
Until this year no figures were kept to make this comparison. In April this year we started to keep a breakdown by geographical regions of all contracts placed by my Department. The figures for research and development contracts for the six-month period April-September, 1967, are:
| £ | |
| Northern Region | 66,000 |
| Wales | 257,000 |
| Northern Ireland | 383,000 |
| Yorkshire and Humberside | 1,675,000 |
| Scotland | 2,256,000 |
| North-West | 3,687,000 |
| Midlands | 4,109,000 |
| North Midlands | 4,185,000 |
| Southern Region | 5,655,000 |
| Eastern Region | 9,549,000 |
| South-West | 20,610,000 |
| London and South-East | 25,325,000 |
Technological Industry(Investment)
asked the Minister of Technology what effects he estimates that devaluation and the concurrent fiscal measures will have on existing plans for capital investment in advanced technological industry.
I would expect an increase in investment to follow from the measures taken.
Aviation Industry
asked the Minister of Technology what calculation he has made of the effect upon the export prospects for the aviation industry of devaluation combined with the other fiscal and monetary measures announced concurrently.
As my hon. Friend said in reply to the Question by the hon. Member for Woking (Mr. Onslow) on 23rd November, the export prospect of British aviation products have been improved and I am confident that the industry will take full advantage of the additional opportunities afforded.—[Vol. 754, c.430]
Shipbuilding Industry
asked the Minister of Technology what was the total value of contracts on the order books of British shipyards at the most recent date for which figures are available; and what part of this total related to firms in the Clyde district.
£470 million and £108 million respectively at 30th September.
asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement on the progress which has been made in negotiating a merger of firms in the upper reaches of the Clyde; and if it is the Government's intention to acquire an equity stake in the new organisation.
asked the Minister of Technology to what extent it is the Government's policy to hold shares in the new Clyde Shipbuilding Consortium.
Five shipyards on the Upper Clyde have agreed on terms for a merger of their shipbuilding interests. The Shipbuilding Board has agreed in principle to give financial assistance to the new group and my right hon. Friend is now examining, with the Board, both the amount and nature of that assistance.
British Industry
asked the Minister of Technology what proposals he has for the restructuring of British industry, in the light of the effects of devaluation.
In the new situation, I shall continue actively to encourage and where appropriate to support measures of rationalisation calculated to promote efficiency and increased competitiveness in British industry.
Desalination Plant
asked the Minister of Technology whether he has commissioned studies of the potential market in desalination plant over the medium and long term throughout the world; and if he will make a statement.
Yes. The United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority have carried out such studies in consultation with industry. In the four years to the end of 1966 installed capacity in the developing countries rose from 17 to 80 million gallons per day. With the urgent need for additional water in both developing and industrial countries, there is every expectation that this trend will continue and, indeed, be accentuated. This is an important and rapidly growing market in which the prospects for British industry, which pioneered its growth, are most promising.
asked the Minister of Technology what study he has made of Mr. de Rothschild's proposals on Water for the Middle East, in relation to desalination plants, details of which have been sent to him; and if he will make a statement.
The Department participated in a detailed inter-departmental study of the proposals. Technically, the proposals were feasible; but they presented substantial economic and political difficulties. For example, the water produced would have been unacceptably dear for most agricultural use.With respect to the political problems involved, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given yesterday to the hon. Member for Rowley Regis and Tipton (Mr. Archer) by my hon. Friend the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs.—[Vol. 756, c.
278]
Research (Scotland)
asked the Minister of Technology what proportion of research sponsored by his Department is carried out in Scotland.
Three per cent. of the total cost but excluding the aviation field 14 per cent. This does not include money paid out to other bodies where the proportion spent in Scotland is not available.
asked the Minister of Technology what action he is taking to promote technological research in Scotland.
Recent action has included the setting up of the Institute of Advanced Machine Tool and Control Technology at East Kilbride and the decision to establish an "Industrial Unit" at the University of Strathclyde.
Sonic Bangs
asked the Minister of Technology what representations he has received from local authorities following the sonic boom tests during the summer; and if he will make a statement.
Thirteen local authorities have commented on various aspects of the sonic bang tests.We expect to make a statement about the results of the tests very shortly.
asked the Minister of Technology whether he will indicate what conclusions he has drawn from last summer's sonic boom tests; and whether he will publish a White Paper upon his researches into sonic boom problems.
We hope to make a statement about the July test shortly. I do not think a White Paper is necessary.
Euratom (Projects)
asked the Minister of Technology what projects in the field of atomic energy research he is now supporting or sponsoring in conjunction with Euratom at present; if he will tabulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT the total cost, the percentage of British financing involved and in which country or countries research and development work is now being carried out for each respective project; and to what extent any of these joint projects are being delayed pending a decision on finance by Euratom.
We have no atomic energy project with Euratom exclusively. Euratom is a major partner in the Dragon High Temperature Reactor project. That project will continue at least until 31st December, 1968, now that Her Majesty's Government's offer to bear most of the cost next year has been accepted.Detailed information about the Dragon is as follows:
The total budget of the Dragon reactor project for the period 1st April, 1959 to 31st December, 1967, is £26·5 million, of which the United Kingdom and Euratom shares are 40·8 per cent. and 46 per cent. respectively. The extension for the calendar year is expected to cost £2·1 million of which the United Kingdom will provide 86·6 per cent. on the basis described in my reply of 25th July to the hon. Member for Stockport, North. Research and Development work for the Dragon project is now being carried out in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and United States of America.—[Vol. 751, c
99–100]
Science And Technology (Schools)
asked the Minister of Technology whether he is satisfied with the extent of his representation on committees concerned with the teaching of science and technology in schools; and what steps is he now taking with the leaders of the technologically based industries for which he is responsible for encouraging young people to study science, technology and engineering subjects as against arts subjects.
My right hon. Friend's Department is represented on the Consultative Committee of the Schools Council which is concerned with encouraging interest in applied science and technology in schools. He has offered to assist where possible in promoting industrial sponsorship of this important work.
Science And Technology Act(Desalination)
asked the Minister of Technology what work he is doing on desalination under Section 4 of the Science and Technology Act.
On 27th April, 1965, my predecessor asked the Atomic Energy Authority to assume responsibility for research and development into methods of desalination of salt water for civil use. (OFFICIAL REPORT, Vol. 711, C. 214.)The Authority drew up a three-year R. and D. programme with two principal objectives: first, to exploit the development potential of the British multi-stage flash distillation process, and secondly, to explore alternative methods of desalination which might show improvements on the multi-stage flash process in due course.The first objective has been pursued in close collaboration with Weir Westgarth Limited, and significant reductions in cost have been obtained. Many of the benefits of our initial programme have not yet reached the stage of commercial application. But Weir Westgarth's have won three overseas orders this year amounting to a total capacity of more than 5 m.g.d.The second objective has led to work on electro-dialysis in collaboration with William Boby Limited and has resulted in the construction of a new design of pilot plant, which shows promise for commercial exploitation.Simon-Carves Limited, have collaborated with Harwell in a design study for a desalination plant based on a freezing process and a range of experimental facilities is being commissioned at Harwell.The third advanced process studied in collaboration with Yarsley Laboratories and the A. D. Little Research Institute employs reverse osmosis, particularly suitable for brackish waters. Portal Holdings Limited are also collaborating in the development of this system.The R. and D. programme will be completed within its original estimated cost of £1·3 million of public money, of which some 20 per cent. has been used to finance work by the Authority's industrial collaborators.
I have now approved a second programme of work by the Authority at an estimated cost of £4 million over the period ending 31st March, 1971, of which almost half will be used to finance agreed programmes of work by the Authority's industrial collaborators. The programme will also include a continuing study of desalination plants powered by nuclear reactors for which commercial designs have been prepared during the first programme and which are continually being up-dated.
I am sure the House will join with me in wishing success for this second programme.
Hovercraft (Marketing)
asked the Minister of Technology whether he is satisfied with the marketing of British hovercraft at home and overseas; what has been the return so far on the capital, both privately and publicly, invested on a joint basis; and what steps he proposes taking to improve the promotion of this method of marine transportation, with particular reference to the licensing of private undertakings in the manufacturing and operational fields.
My right hon. Friend is never satisfied with the marketing of any goods at home or overseas; he thinks we could always do better. I am not in a position to give figures on the returns of invested capital. The Ministry together with the Board of Trade is working continually with the industry to secure exports.
Short Brothers And Harland
asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement on the resignation of Sir Cyril Musgrave from the board of Short Brothers and Harland.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to similar Questions today.
asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement about Government changes in the constitution of the board and chairmanship of Short Brothers and Harland.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave today to the hon. Member for Londonderry (Mr. Chichester-Clark).
asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement about the numbers the Government expects to be employed by Short Brothers and Harland during 1968 in design and production work on aircraft and missiles, respectively, and the expected trend of employment over the next two years.
The numbers at present engaged on aircraft and missile work are some 5,000 and some 1,100 respectively. The Company expects that, provided that the projects now entering production are successful and new work currently under negotiation is obtained, this level of employment will be substantially maintained in 1968 and in the following two years.
National Research Developmentcorporation
asked the Minister of Technology what is his policy in respect of the activities and financing of the National Research Development Corporation; what effects devaluation of the £ sterling and its attendant measures are expected to have on capital expenditure previously authorised; how many industrial contracts will be suspended; and which particular projects have already been and are likely to be affected.
Devaluation in itself is likely to have little effect on the activities of the Corporation except to provide an added stimulus to export promotion and import saving projects. The Corporation may be affected, as may other investing organisations, by the other measures which were taken at the time of devaluation. But I understand that at present they cannot identify any particular projects which would be so affected.
Aircraft Projects (Anglo-Europeanco-Operation)
asked the Minister of Technology in which of the aircraft projects now being developed on a European basis the United Kingdom holds the airframe and design leadership.
The United Kingdom holds airframe and design leadership on the W.G.13 helicopter; on the Concord, responsibility is shard; on other projects, leadership is with French companies.
Bac 2–11 Aircraft
asked the Minister of Technology what is his present estimate of the Government funds which would be necessary to ensure the launching of the British Aircraft Corporation 2–11 aircraft.
£120 million
Programmes Analysis Unit, Harwell
asked the Minister of Technology what work the programmer Analysis Unit at Harwell is doing to select projects concerned with the development of the marine environment.
The Programmes Analysis Unit is carrying out a study of the benefits which might attend the application of technology in national research and development programmes within those fields of marine science and technology for which the Ministry are responsible.
Gravel (Extraction)
asked the Minister of Technology what study he is making of more economical methods of gravel production from the marine environment.
My right hon. Friend's Department, in co-operation with the National Ports Council, is now surveying dredging technology, including the extraction of sand and gravel.The report of the survey team will be available early in 1968.
National Technological Resources
asked the Minister of Technology if he will state his policy in relation to encouraging resources at present involved in research and development to move into the production side of industry.
The problem of achieving the best distribution of the national technological resources between research, development and production is very complex because the needs of different industries vary greatly. In general I am seeking to concentrate effort more on the production side.
Departmental Contracts (Northernregion)
asked the Minister of Technology what is the total value of contracts placed by his Department in the Northern Region this year.
In the six months April to September, 1967 inclusive, contracts to a value of £653,000 were placed by my Department in the Northern Region.
Government Contracts
asked the Minister of Technology what action he is taking to ensure that the placing of Government contracts help to ameliorate unemployment in the development areas.
In placing contracts my Department gives preference to firms in Development Areas in accordance with the arrangements used by all Government purchasing Departments.
asked the Minister of Technology what proportions of expenditure on aviation contracts were placed in Scotland, England and Wales, respectively in the ten years up to 1966–67.
The information is not available in the form requested by the hon. Member. But expenditure by the Ministries of Supply and Aviation with United Kingdom industry in the 10 years up to 1966–67 on research and development contracts was £1,550 million. Approximately 3 per cent. of this was spent in Scotland, 97 per cent. in England, and less than 1 per cent. in Wales.
Departmental Buildings (Scotland)
asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish the address of the seven buildings used by his Department in Scotland.
The addresses are:—Royal Aircraft Establishment, West Freugh.National Engineering Laboratory, East Kilbride, Glasgow.Torry Research Station, Abbey Road, Aberdeen.and with other Government Departments:—25, Palmerston Place, Edinburgh, 125–6, Randolph Crescent, Edinburgh, 3.Marland House, 40, George Street, Glasgow, C.1.136, Renfield Street, Glasgow, C.1.
Marine Science And Technology
asked the Minister of Technology what steps he is taking to co-ordinate the existing and proposed programme of work on marine science development within the sphere of his Department.
Any new arrangements which may prove necessary for co-ordinating the existing and future work on marine science in my Department will be decided in the light of the Report of the Working Party on marine science and technology.
asked the Minister of Technology when he expects to receive the report of the working party making an initial examination of areas of marine science and technology which are likely to be most economically profitable; and if he will make a statement.
The Working Party's Report is expected early in 1968 and my right hon. Friend would prefer to see what it says before making a statement.
asked the Minister of Technology if he will name the firms he has approached with a view to co-operating with them in matters of marine science research
More than 60 firms were invited to send representatives to the Conference on the Technology of the Sea and the Sea-bed, held at Harwell in April. 1967. The representatives are listed in the Proceedings, which are available from Her Majesty's Stationery Office. I will deposit a copy of the proceedings in the Library of the House.Since then, officials of the Ministry have had discussions with many of these firms and others who were not represented at the Conference.
asked the Minister of Technology what co-operation he has had with the firm of Weir Westgarth on marine science development; and if he will make a statement.
The firm of Weir Westgarth are co-operating with the Ministry and the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority in the field of marine science and technology, particularly in the programme of desalination. The firm makes frequent use of the information and facilities available in the National Engineering Laboratory.
Hovercraft Unit
asked the Minister of Technology what saving has been made by the creation of a single hovercraft unit covering both defence and civil applications; and if he will make a statement.
A single Hovercraft unit was set up in July this year. It is expected to show savings in intramural and extramural research and development by bringing the civilian and military applications together and ensure a co-ordinated programme of work.
Multi-Stage Flash Distillation
asked the Minister of Technology what progress he is making into research into multi-stage flash distillation; and if he will make a statement on the results so far.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave today to his Question on Section 4 of the Science and Technology Act.
Kraken Exercise (Grant)
asked the Minister of Technology what grant he has given to the Kraken exercise; and what estimate he has made of the value of the Kraken project.
The Ministry has not made any grant to the Kraken exercise but with the National Environmental Research Council is considering the value of such a structure for underwater scientific and technological investigations.
Departmental Expenditure (Wales)
asked the Minister of Technology what plans he has to increase the 0·9 per cent. spent in Wales of the total sum of £611 million spent by his Department last year.
My Department's expenditure in Wales for 1967–68 is likely to remain about the same as in the previous year. Some important development contracts have been placed this year for the benefit of industry in Wales
Seacat Contracts
asked the Minister of Technology whether he will make a statement on his investigations into Seacat contracts.
With the full collaboration of the firm I have had the Seacat contracts investigated. I have concluded that the emergent profits were acceptable and that, therefore, I should not be justified in seeking a refund.
National Finance
Travel Allowance
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the effectiveness of the £50 foreign travel limit in encouraging residents in the United Kingdom to take their holidays in the United Kingdom during the tourist year 1966–67; and if he will make a statement.
I have no doubt that the restriction has had some effect of this kind but it cannot be quantified.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received about the need for a special currency allowance for those wishing to watch the Winter Olympics at Grenoble; and what reply he has sent.
Representations have been made by three hon. Members. They have been told that no additional allowance will be made available.
Voluntary Programme
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fall of British private investment, in the year since the Voluntary Programme began, from some £50 million to about £33 million in Australia and from £.11½ million to £0·7 million in New Zealand, if he will now, in accordance with his undertaking on 25th May 1966, make a statement on the working of this measure.
The Voluntary Programme has been running for some nineteen months. During that period it has produced a useful saving to our balance of payments. I pay tribute to the co-operation both of the companies concerned with direct investments covered by the Programme, and also to that of the institutions in the field of portfolio investment.
Customs (Boeing 747 Aircraft)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that the Boeing 747 aircraft which will soon be coming into service will be capable of carrying 500 passengers; and what preparations the Customs authorities are making to be able to handle this number of passengers expeditiously.
Yes. The Customs are well-advanced in their planning which will ensure swift clearance of the increased traffic expected by all means of transport in the next decade.
Devaluation
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has to aid exporters of goods which will not be available for export till after 1st April, 1968, and the contracts for which were already signed prior to the devaluation of the £ sterling.
I have nothing to add to the reply the Financial Secretary to the Treasury gave to the hon. Member on 8th December.—[Vol. 755, c.411–2]
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has to aid British merchants, trading in West African commodities, who are unable to protect themselves from the devaluation of the British £ sterling.
I understand that the Bank of England have now offered loans of up to £5 million to assist those commodity traders who will sustain losses as a result of having bought commodities in the non-devalued currencies of Nigeria, Tanzania and Uganda, and sold in sterling.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the overall effects so far of devaluation.
No. It is far too soon to assess the overall effects.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he has for dealing with the effects of devaluation on students studying abroad.
The amount remittable for fees for tuition, accommodation, etc., charged by educational institutions abroad in the local currency will be automatically adjusted where the exchange rate is changed. I do not propose any general change in other allowances.
Gold And Dollar Reserves
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total by which our gold and dollar reserves, declined in the three days immediately prior to devaluation.
I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer which my right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary gave to the hon. Member for Norfolk, South (Mr. J. E. B. Hill) on 23rd November.—[Vol. 754, c.417]
Export Rebate
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has to help exporters of goods having a high import content after the export rebate has been abolished on 1st April, 1968.
Devaluation should in varying degrees improve the competitive position of all exporters. Special help for exporters with a high import content would be impracticable and doubtfully desirable.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will continue the export rebate for those firms which can produce evidence of firm export orders at fixed prices; and if he will make a statement.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave on 8th December to Questions by the hon. Members for Cleveland (Mr. Tinn) and Liverpool, Wavertree (Mr. Tilney).—[Vol. 755,c.411–2]
Income Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what detailed consideration has now been given to an amalgamation of Income Tax and allowances with Social Insurance and benefits.
Consideration has been given to several such schemes.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to make unemployment pay subject to Income Tax.
Unemployment benefit was exempted because of the practical difficulties of collecting the tax, and these difficulties still remain.
Foreign Currency (Speculation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will introduce the legislation necessary to prevent British residents from speculating in foreign currency.
Powers are already available under the Exchange Control Act, 1947.
Private Investment
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he now has to encourage private investment by increasing incentives both for companies and for individuals.
The existing incentives are in general adequate and the prospects for private investment, especially in the changed circumstances created by devaluation, are very favourable.
Bridges And Tunnels (Developmentareas)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in the interest of more balanced regional industrial development, he will take steps to ensure that all charges for the construction and maintenance of expensive bridges and tunnels in development areas are financed by the Exchequer.
No. There are other, more direct, ways of giving assistance to development areas.
Purchase Tax (Hotel Equipment)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, following devaluation, he will now consider seeking to give hotels Purchase Tax relief on essential equipment and making provision for depreciation on their fixed assets.
My right hon. Friend cannot anticipate his Budget statement.
Gold (Demonetisation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will press for an emergency meeting of the International Monetary Fund to discuss the demonetisation of gold.
No
Anglo-German Offset Agreement
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what progress he has made to date in negotiating an offset agreement regarding the British Army of the Rhine for the financial year 1968–69.
There have been some informal preliminary talks on the subject; formal negotiations will be opened in good time before the present agreement expires.
Inland Revenue (Overtime)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many hours of overtime were worked by the Inland Revenue in the period 1st April to 30th September, 1967; and what remuneration was paid for this overtime.
About 900,000 and £380,000.
Estate Duty And Capital Gains Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish the terms of the concession made by the Inland Revenue to the effect that, in cases where Estate Duty and Capital Gains Tax produces a combined tax liability of over 20s. in the £ sterling, the Revenue will not exact more than 20s. in the £ sterling.
I am not clear what type of case the hon. Member has in mind. If he will send me particulars I will look into the matter.
Sterling (Illegal Transference)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if British subjects were involved in the violation of the regulations regarding sterling which took place on Friday, 17th November.
No evidence has come to light that U.K. residents acted illegally before devaluation by transferring funds through illegal channels. If offences were committed, they are liable to detection and prosecution under the Exchange Control Act.
Motor Vehicle Excise Duty
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give an assurance that the increases in taxation on the motorist, whether private or public, introduced since October, 1964 result in a corresponding increase of Government spending on roads.
Taxation collected from motorists—in common with other tax revenue—goes into the general Exchequer and has no direct relationship with expenditure on the roads.
Balance Of Payments
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will order an independent investigation of the burden imposed on Great Britain's balance of payments, directly and indirectly, by the Rhodesian sanctions policy.
No.
Bank Overdrafts
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what advice he has given to the banks regarding overdrafts to tradesmen in areas affected by the current foot-and-mouth epidemic relating to limits of overdrafting.
None. I am sure that the banks do not need to be asked to deal sympathetically with farmers and with other categories of borrowers in the stricken areas who may find themselves in difficulties as a result of the foot and mouth epidemic.
Fixed Price Contracts
asked the Prime Minister whether he will give in detail the reasons for the delay in announcing the Government's policy in regard to fixed price contracts; and whether he will now make a statement.
I have been asked to reply. I assume the hon. Member is referring to fixed price contracts for construction work which were the subject of a letter from the National Federation of Building Trades' Employers to the Prime Minister on 22nd November. Replies to that letter were sent by my right hon. Friends the Prime Minister and the Minister of Public Building and Works on 11th and 12th December respectively.
Government Offices (Scotland)
asked the Chan-cellor of the Exchequer which new Gov-
| Year site or building acquired or transferred (whichever earliest) | Department, office and location | Approximate numbers | ||||
| 1965 | Inland Revenue Schedule E Centre, East Kilbride | … | Building up to 1,300 | |||
| 1966 | Post Office Savings Bank, Glasgow | … | … | … | At present 1,10 building up to 5,500 | |
| Board of Trade Investment Grants Organisation, Glasgow | 115 | |||||
| Post Office Philatelic Bureau, Edinburgh | … | … | … | 100 | ||
| Ministry of Social Security, Cumbernauld | … | … | 175 | |||
| 1967 | Land Commission, Cumbernauld | … | … | … | … | 165 |
| —[Vol 755,c 354] | ||||||
Selective Employment Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will continue to allow the Selective Employment Tax re-fund for those firms which can produce evidence of firm export orders at fixed prices; and if he will make a statement.
As from the week be-ginning 1st April, 1968, manufacturers outside Development Areas will lose their entitlement to the additional sum in the Selective Employment Premium, but they will continue to be entitled to refund of the tax. Manufacturing establishments in Development Areas will still be en-titled to the full premium, that is refund of the tax plus the additional sum.
Rates (Lock-Up Garages)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what study he has made of the effects of altering the principle of rate assessment by the Inland Revenue so that both lock-up garages and the houses to which they relate are rated on the same basis; what are the results of these studies; and if he will make a statement.
They are assessed for rates on the same basis either separately or as one entity depending on the ernment offices or agencies were sited in Scotland in each year from 1951; and how many jobs were provided in each case.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave him on 6th December listing office projects which were considered in relation to dispersal and regional development policies. These offices were sited in Scotland from 1965 onward. There were no comparable projects between 1951 and 1964. Following is the fuller information now requested:—facts. The entitlement of the occupiers of garages to domestic rate relief is however a matter for my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government.
Royal Mint
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer having regard to the need for public economy, whether he will reconsider the transfer of the Royal Mint to Llantrisant.
No. The interests of economy would not be served by reconsidering this decision.
Government Expenditure
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will name the services for which a separate calculation of public expenditure and central Government expenditure per head of population in Scotland and England, respectively, cannot be made.
The principal services for which separate figures for central Government expenditure in Scotland are not available were listed in reply to the hon. Member for Perth and East Perth-sire (Mr. MacArthur) on 16th November. These are also the services for which separate expenditure figures are not available.—[Vol. 754, c.196]
Government Bookshops (Northernregion)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will examine the possibilities of setting up a retail sales department of Her Majesty's Stationery Office in Newcastle and other centres in the Northern Region.
Her Majesty's Stationery Office keeps this situation under review, but there is insufficient demand for Government publications in Newcastle or other centres in the Northern Region to warrant the opening of new Government bookshops.
Civil Service London Weighting
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the high cost of living and lower salaries in Scotland, if he will reject the decision of the National Board for Prices and Incomes published on 2nd November, 1967 to approve higher salary scales for civil servants in the London area.
No. The Government has already accepted the recommendations of the National Board for Prices and Incomes on Civil Service London Weighting, and the new rates have been introduced.
Government Offices, Fylde
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government regarding the provision of further employment opportunities in Government Departments on the Fylde coast.
The choice of location for new or transferred Government offices is limited by operational requirements but subject to that we give priority to places in development areas. The Fylde area already has a good share of Civil Service employment, including the Premium Bond Office, employing some 2,700 at Lytham St. Annes, and a division of the Ministry of Health, employing some 400, which is in process of moving to Fleetwood; but the area is not necessarily ruled out on that account as a destination for further dispersal.
Rotherham Co-Operative Society
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will cause an investigation to be made into the financial stability of the Rotherglen Co-operative Society which, despite the £500,000 financial help received from the Co-operative Wholesale Society, is still unable to repay its depositors their money, as stated in correspondence sent to him by the hon. Member for Louth, a widow in whose constituency is unable to obtain the repayment of £210 1ls. 6d. and accumulated interest on her investment account.
As a result of adverse trading experience in recent years, together with a rapid reduction in members' share capital, and of the impossibility of realising its assets without loss to its members, the Rotherham Co-operative Society suspended the repayment of its shares on 29th August, 1967. The Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies has power to appoint an inspector to inquire into the Society's affairs on the application of not less than 100 members; but it must be doubtful in this case whether an inspector would be able to discover anything not already known. Members of the Society's present Committee of Management, who under a recent amendment of its rules are appointed by the Board of the Co-operative Wholesale Society, its principal creditors, are working to restore its financial position; the Chief Registrar is keeping a close watch on the matter.
Dollar Premium
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that the dollar premium has risen again to 29 per cent.; and if he will take the necessary steps to transfer £800 million a year resources from the home market to exports, in order to prevent the present sterling rate of 2·40 becoming untenable.
Measures have already been taken which should bring about a substantial shift in resources in the months ahead. It is too early to estimate the eventual amount of resources which will have to be diverted from the home market, but we shall take whatever steps are necessary to ensure that this is made possible.
Government Departments(Efficiency)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make inquiries as to the effectiveness of the arrangements for furthering efficiency in Government Departments and eliminating delays and thereafter state the methods adopted other than by way of suggestion committees.
These arrangements are kept under continuous review and special inquiries are unnecessary. Each Department is responsible for its own efficiency and obtains advice from its Organisation and Methods branch, the Treasury and consultants, as appropriate.
Savings
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the continuous and increasing inflation, if he will seek powers to wind up the National Savings Movement, the Post Office Savings Bank, and all fixed interest savings organisations, and replace them with a national equity unit scheme, and so save the small investor from being deprived of the real value of his savings through inflation.
No.
Bank Rate
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that small businesmen are having to give longer credits to overseas buyers and are having to pay up to 10 per cent. on bank overdraft, which is more than their normal profit rate; and if he will reduce Bank Rate from 8 per cent. to 6 per cent. in the near future so that exporting is not done at a loss.
I am aware that the rate for some export credit will be above Bank Rate, but not that exporting is in consequence done at a loss. I can make no statement regarding future changes in Bank Rate.
Local Government
Desalination (South-East England)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the expected inadequacy of water supplies in South-East England by 1980, he will establish a pilot plant in that area for the production of pure water from sea water.
The Water Resources Board have been examining the best ways of ensuring adequate water supplies for South-East England in the 1980's, but, desalination is not at present among the most economical ways.
Flooding (Pateley Bridge)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware that the flooding of the Mill Field Street area of Pateley Bridge could be prevented by the lowering of the level of Gouthwaite Reservoir; and what steps are being taken to prevent flood waters and sewage being carried into the houses and shops in this part of Pateley Bridge.
Flooding would not be prevented by lowering Gouthwaite Reservoir to a greater extent than it is lowered at present in winter months, since substantial amounts of flood water enter the River Nidd below the reservoir. The Rural District Council have already taken steps to prevent flooding and are investigating further measures. They have as yet found no evidence of sewage flooding and have had no specific complaints on this score.
Worcestershire County Council(Grant)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will reconsider his decision not to make a grant to the Worcestershire County Council in respect of the expenses of £5,674 19s. 3d. incurred by them in connection with the review of county districts, in view of the fact that this expenditure was rendered abortive by his change of policy.
No. My right hon. Friend could not accept that when a change of circumstances makes a piece of work abortive the authority concerned should be reimbursed the cost of it. In any event, the expenditure was not wholly abortive as the Droitwich Order now before the House gives effect to one of the county council's proposals.
Derelict Land
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will seek to set up a special national organisation to speed up the clearance and redevelopment of derelict sites; and if he will make a statement.
The local authorities are pressing on steadily with this work, with the help of substantial Exchequer grants, and I am not clear that to form a special organisation for it on a national scale would be helpful to them.
Southend Development Plan
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he proposes to make a decision about the Southend development plan; whether he is aware that several years have now elapsed without a decision; and what points remain outstanding.
A letter setting out the Minister's proposed modifications to the plan was sent to the Council on 16th May, 1967. Southend's policy on contributions by developers towards the provision of car parks is the final point under review. My right hon. Friend will be able to issue a decision on the development plan as soon as this question is resolved.
Rock Ferry By-Pass (Inquiry)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he expects to announce his decision upon the public inquiry held this year into the proposal of Birkenhead county borough to construct the Rock Ferry by-pass.
The Inspector's report is being considered and my right hon. Friend hopes to be able to reach a conclusion early in the New Year.
Housing
Council Houses (Condition)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to make it necessary for local authorities and others responsible for house letting to hand over houses in good condition to incoming tenants.
I have no reason to think that local authorities in general do not hand over their houses in good condition to incoming tenants, but if the hon. Member has a particular case in mind I hope he will send me details. As regards private lettings within the Rent Act, 1965 or the Furnished Houses (Rent Control) Act, 1946, tenants can apply to the rent officer or furnished houses rent tribunal to fix a rent which is appropriate to the condition of the property.Under Section 32 of the Housing Act, 1961 there is an implied covenant by a lessor who grants a lease for less than seven years to keep in repair the structure and exterior of the house and certain installations. In the case of houses let at a low rental, Section 6 of the Housing Act, 1957 makes it an implied condition of the contract that the house is fit for human habitation at the commencement of the tenancy and that it will he kept in that condition by the landlord during the tenancy.
Piped Water (Kirby Hill)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what progress has been made in providing Windmill Cottages, Kirby Hill, near Skelton-on-Ure with a piped water supply; and why it has taken more than three years to provide this supply of drinking water.
I understand that work is practically finished. The Water Board had first to investigate alternative methods of supply; their scheme, when submitted, was deferred by the Department for over a year because of the need to restrict public expenditure; subsequently, time was required for sinking and testing a trial borehole, obtaining statutory approvals, and arranging a contract.
Housing Revenue Accounts
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will state the financial position of the housing revenue accounts as at 31st March, 1966 and 31st March, 1965, of the local authorities whose proposed increases in council house rents are to be sent to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.
Detailed information for all the English authorities in- cluded in the reference (except for those affected by local government reorganisation) is given in Housing Statistics (England and Wales) 1964–65 and 1965–66 published by the Institute of Municipal Treasurers and Accountants.
Commonwealth Affairs
Rhodesia
asked the Secretary of Stale for Commonwealth Affairs whether Her Majesty's Government have set a time limit to negotiations between them and the Rhodesian administration.
No, we are not going to slam any doors. But fruitful discussions are impossible so long as Mr. Smith maintains his present position.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make arrangements to issue authentic Rhodesian passports for loyal Rhodesians at present outside Rhodesia.
Arrangements already exist to provide loyal Rhodesians outside Rhodesia with United Kingdom passports.
Mr Aubrey Wilson
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if he will give the reasons in detail for his refusal to open a full inquiry into the case of Mr. Aubrey Wilson.
The events complained of took place in Kenya in 1951 and the United Kingdom Government has nolocus standito inquire into a matter which is now the concern of an independent Commonwealth Government.
Commonwealth Secretariat
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what are the terms and tenure of office of the Secretary-General and other officials of the Commonwealth Secretariat.
The Secretary- General was appointed by Commonwealth Prime Ministers, at their meeting in June, 1965, for a period of five years. The tenure of office of other senior officers will normally be from three to five years, in accordance with paragraphs 33 to 38 of the Agreed Memorandum presented to Parliament in July, 1965, as Cmnd. 2713.
Woomera (Anglo-Australianproject)
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what recent communications he has received from the Australian Government on the subject of the British-Australian project at Woomera; and what reply he has sent.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Reply which my hon. Friend gave to him on 5th December, to which I have nothing to add.—[Vol. 755, c. 248–9.]
Gibraltar
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what action he proposes to take following the recent resolution passed by the United Nations Fourth Committee on the status of Gibraltar.
In replying to the hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion (Sir W. Teeling) on 5th December my right hon. Friend said that we expected to start discussions about the constitution early in the New Year. Lord Caradon described the resolution as disgraceful and it has no effect on our intention. More generally, as has been made clear on many occasions, we shall continue to support and sustain the people of Gibraltar as necessary.—[Vol. 755, c. 1119.]
Ministry Of Power
Gas Oil (Protein)
asked the Minister of Power whether he is satisfied that Great Britain has the technological capabilities for building and operating a plant like that to be built by British Petroleum at Lavera refinery near Marseilles to produce protein from gas oil, details of which have been sent to him; and if he will make a statement.
Yes. British Petroleum, inventors of this process for producing protein from gas oil, have the technological capacity to build and operate a plant of nature in Britain or indeed in any part of thse world where an oil refinery is established. The first full-scale plant is being built in France because B.P.'s French Company made the original invention and has carried out the early laboratory experiments and development work.
Coal
Pithead Costs
asked the Minister of Power (1) if, before the House considers the Fuel Policy White Paper, he will publish the average cost per ton at the pithead and cost per therm of the coal mined from the best 20 pits in the country, together with the names of these pits and the information in respect of each pit;(2)if, before the House considers the Fuel Policy White Paper, he will publish the average cost per ton at the pithead and cost per therm of the coal mined from the best 50 pits in the country, together with the names of these pits and the information for each of these pits, other than the best 20;(3)if, before the House considers the Fuel Policy White Paper, he will publish the average cost per ton at the pithead and cost per therm of the coal mined from the best 100 pits in the country,
| Cost Range per therm | Number of collieries | Output(m. tons) | Cost per ton | Cost per therm | ||||
| s. d. | d. | |||||||
| Up to 3d. | … | … | … | … | 14 | 10 | 56 4 | 2·60 |
| 3d.–4d. | … | … | … | … | 107 | 51 | 79 5 | 3·67 |
| 4d.–4½d. | … | … | … | … | 81 | 35 | 94 1 | 4·34 |
| 4½d.–5d. | … | … | … | … | 71 | 25 | 104 1 | 4·80 |
| 5d.–6d. | … | … | … | … | 100 | 27 | 122 9 | 5·37 |
| 6d.–7d. | … | … | … | … | 29 | 7 | 138 0 | 6·37 |
| Over 7d. | … | … | … | … | 15 | 3 | 173 3 | 8·0 |
| Total | … | … | … | … | 417 | 158 | 98 1 | 4·47 |
Redundant Miners
asked the Minister of Power if he will make a statement on Government policy under the Coal Industry Bill with regard to directions to the National Coal Board about the employment of together with the names of these pits and the information for each of these pits, other than the best 50;(4)if, before the House considers the Fuel Policy White Paper, he will publish the average cost per ton at the pithead and cost per therm of the coal mined from the best 200 pits in the country, together with the names of these pits and the information for each of these pits, other than the best 100;(5)if, before the House considers the Fuel Policy White Paper, he will publish the average cost per ton at the pithead and cost per therm of the coal mined from the best 250 pits in the country, together with the names of these pits and the information for each of these pits, other than the best 200;(6)if, before the House considers the Fuel Policy White Paper, he will publish the average cost per ton at the pithead and cost per therm of the coal mined from the best 300 pits in the country, together with the names of these pits and the information for each of these pits, other than the best 250.
The information is not readily available in the precise form requested but the following analysis of pithead costs, before interest, for all coal other than anthracite will assist the hon. Member. The figures relate to the year 1966–67 but exclude collieries which closed in that year.men over 55 years of age who are displaced as a result of pit closures.
asked the Minister of Power what directions he has given to the National Coal Board about re-employing fit miners over 55 years of age who have become redundant as a result of colliery closures.
I see no need for any direction. The Board already re-employs fit miners over 55 years of age who become redundant to the maximum extent that transfers can be arranged to suitable vacancies in other pits.
Coal Industry (Goods Vehiclecharges)
asked the Minister of Power what is his estimate of the cost to both the National Coal Board and the coal distributors of the proposed new tax applied to lorries of three tons and above.
For the distributive trade, the Coal Merchants' Federation have estimated that the cost may be about ½d. per hundredweight sack. For the National Coal Board, I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave him on 6th December.—[Vol. 755, c.341]
Board Of Trade
Sulphur (Indigenous Supplies)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made towards having indigenous supplies of sulphur.
Sulphur in the form of ammonium sulphate and other by-products is already recovered from gas works and coke oven plants. The Central Electricity Generating Board have been following a promising line of research into the recovery of sulphur from flue gases and are considering the building of a pilot plant in a power station in the North East to carry out full scale tests.
British Travel Association (Overseasadvertising)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps are being taken by Her Majesty's Government to enable the British Travel Association to continue its advertising campaigns overseas at the level formerly planned notwithstanding the effects of devaluation.
Consideration is now being given to the effects of devaluation on the overseas activities of the British Travel Association.
Industrial Development Certificates(Stoke-On-Trent)
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) how many applications for industrial development certificates have been made for Stoke-on-Trent for each of the years from 1955 to 1966; how many have been granted in full; and how many have been granted in part;(2) how many applications for industrial development certificates in the city of Stoke-on-Trent in each of the years 1955 to 1966, were from firms already established in the city who wished to expand, and how many were granted; and how many were made from firms outside the city, and how many were granted.
It is not the practice of the Board of Trade to publish statistics of the number of applications which have been received for industrial development certificates. I regret that the other information is not available in exactly the form asked for, but the following table sets out the number of industrial development certificate applications approved in the Stoke-on-Trent area.
| INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATES | ||||
| Applications Approved (a) in the Employment Exchange Areas of Stoke-on-Trent, Burslem,Hanley and Longton (b) | ||||
| Number of schemes | ||||
| Total | Expansion on existing sites | Transfer or expansion on new sites | To firms who wished to move into the area | |
| 1955 | Not available | |||
| 1956 | 19 | 16 | 3 | Nil |
| 1957 | 23 | 21 | 2 | |
| 1958 | 15 | 14 | 1 | |
| 1959 | 27 | 24 | 3 | |
| 1960 | 28 | 24 | 4 | |
| 1961 | 21 | 18 | 3 | |
| 1962 | 10 | 10 | Nil | |
| 1963 | 19 | 15 | 4 | |
| 1964 | 18 | 15 | 3 | |
| 1965 | 31 | 25 | 6 | |
| 1966 | 22 | 21 | 1 | |
| Notes | ||||
| (a)Schemes over 5,000 sq. ft. | ||||
| (b)Stoke-on-Trent C.B., Leek R.D. and Cheadle R.D. | ||||
Electric Guitars
asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he is taking to assist the musical instrument industry to achieve import-saving by manufacturing electric guitars in this country instead of their being imported from abroad.
I am not aware that any special steps are necessary.
Potash Deposits (North-East Coast)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for the exploitation of deep potash beds off the North-East coast.
The Government are reviewing the utilisation of the natural resources of the United Kingdom, including potash, and considering how they might be more effectively exploited. Industrial companies are currently exploring potash deposits at various sites in East Yorkshire.
Cinema Films(Monopolies Commission's Report)
asked the President of th Board of Trade whether he will make a further statement about implementation of the Monopolies Commission's Report on the Supply of Films for Exhibition in Cinemas.
Yes. I have now approved terms of reference for the Trades Disputes Committee and the Appeal Tribunal to which my predecessor referred in his statement of 8th June. I am placing a copy of these terms of reference in the Library of the House. An announcement about the Chairman of the Appeal Tribunal will be made shortly.
Man-Made Cellulosic Fibresmonopolies Commission's Report)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has received the Report of the Monopolies Commission on the Supply of Man-Made Cellulosic Fibres; and when it will be available to Parliament.
I received the Monopolies Commission's report on the supply of man-made cellulosic fibres on 13th December. It will be laid before Parliament and published as soon as possible.
Aviation
Commercial Aircraft(Rearward-Facing Seats)
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) whether he is satisfied that rear-facing seats in airliners are safer than forward-facing ones; and whether he will make a statement;(2) whether he will take steps to provide that all new airliners in future have their seats facing rearwards.
It is considered that in certain circumstances rearward-facing seats could provide superior protection to passengers but there is insufficient evidence to justify making such seating mandatory on United Kingdom registered aircraft. The matter is being kept under review.
Civil Aviation (Scotland)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will publish a White Paper on the development of civil aviation in Scotland and state whether the Government has yet defined the rôles of, and the services and air traffic to be allocated between, Prestwick and Glasgow Airports.
As regards the first part of the Question, it would be best to await the report and recommendations of the Edwards Committee. As regards the second part, I appreciate that some clarification of the respective rôles of the two airports would be helpful and I hope that it will be possible to give some guidance soon.
Air Traffic Licensing Board(Recommendations)
asked the President of the Board of Trade why he turned down the recommendations of the Air Transport Licensing Board to allow the independent airlines to operate services for which no traffic rights exist at present, unless the applications were amended to delete reference to airports in the United Kingdom except London; and what effect this refusal will have on Prestwick Airport.
The Air Transport Licensing Board has made no such recommendations. Under the powers in Section 2(3) of the Civil Aviation (Licensing) Act, 1960, the Board of Trade have directed the Licensing Board to refuse without hearing certain applications of parts of applications for air service licences to operate transatlantic services which would, in the Board's opinion, involve the negotiation with other Governments of traffic rights which it would be inexpedient for the time being to seek. The directions derive solely from this consideration, and are not related to the United Kingdom airports mentioned in the applications. The effect of the directions on Prestwick is to cause one application (which related equally to Manchester and London) to fall in total and two others to fall in part, one of which has since been withdrawn. The remaining applications or parts of applications relating to Prestwick stand and will be heard, unless withdrawn by the applicants.
Prestwick And Glasgow Airports
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will take action on the failure of the British Airports Authority and the Glasgow Corporation to reach agreement to adjust the names of Prestwick Airport, internationally known as Glasgow Airport, and the municipal airport at Abbotsinch, known as Glasgow Airport, to remove the confusion caused to overseas passengers and travel agencies which is impeding the development of the tourist industry in Scotland.
I have seen no evidence that airline passengers are having difficulties over the names of these two airports, but, in so far as any confusion does exist, this could best be dissipated by airlines and travel agencies making the distinction clear to their clients. The official names—recognised internationally—are Prestwick and Glasgow.
Economic Affairs
Redundant Miners
asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what measures he intends to initiate to ensure continued employment for those miners aged 55 years and over who will become redundant consequent on expedited pit closures.
The very extensive measures taken by the Government to help Development Areas and the Special Development Areas should provide in general the necessary employment for miners made redundant by colliery closures. The Govenment have however taken note of the particular problems created for redundant miners aged 55 and over by the special arrangements announced by my right hon. Friend, the Minister of Power on 18th July and provided for in the Coal Industry Bill, for supplementing the incomes of these miners.
National Board For Prices Andincomes (Membership)
asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what steps he is taking to strengthen the National Board for Prices and Incomes to enable it to scrutinise more widely and critically than hitherto increased prices and dividends.
The Government continue to attach great importance to the work of the National Board for Prices and Incomes in the examination of matters relating to the productivity prices and incomes policy. The appointments made by my right hon. Friend and his predecessor this year have resulted in a net increase in the membership which now stands at 12. Further appointments will be made as necessary.
Agriculture, Fisheriesand Food
Food Imports (Prices)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in view of the fact that Ceylon, the Irish Republic, Denmark, Israel and New Zealand have devalued in line with the devaluation of sterling, he will take powers to prevent price increases on food from these countries.
The prices at which foodstuffs are traded internationally are the result of many factors, of which devaluation is only one. It would not be possible to freeze the price of these imports.
Foot-And-Mouth Disease
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what study he has made of the paper by Mr. H. Pakenham Hamilton on the treatment and cure of foot-and-mouth disease, a copy of which has been sent to him; and whether he will make a statement.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what study he has made of the information contained in the booklet about the treatment and cure of foot-and-mouth disease by Mr. H. Pakenham Hamilton, which has been supplied by the hon. Member for Antrim, South; what conclusions he has reached as a result of these studies; and if he will make a statement.
I have read the pamphlet produced by Mr. H. Pakenham Hamilton about his recollections of the outbreaks at Eaton Home Farms, Cheshire, in 1923–24.The policy of isolation was fully investigated by the Departmental Committee appointed to consider the epidemic of 1923–24.This Committee, reporting in 1925 (Cmd. 2350), made estimates of the losses involved in those herds that were isolated and treated, and concluded that a policy of isolation and treatment would be equivalent to the abandonment of any hope of eradicating the disease from this country.Alleged cures were also dealt with in paragraph 131 of the Report of the Gowers Committee in 1954.Any representations made to the independent committee which I have undertaken to set up after the present epidemic will no doubt be considered by them.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why a consignment of lambs from Wales was allowed to be sent to a slaughterhouse in North Cornwall, passing through an infected area on their journey; and if he will make a statement.
I am assured that no lambs have moved from Wales to the slaughterhouse concerned since 18th November, up to which time they could be moved without licence from parts of Wales which were not infected or controlled areas. No licence has been issued since then for such a movement, and I have no reason to believe that any has taken place. If the hon. Member has more information, I will make further inquiries.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether he will give comprehensive advice to farmers as to the best ways of securing effective use of approved disinfectants under frost conditions;(2) what effect the addition of salt to approved disinfectants on straw mats has on the emulsifier; to what extent the addition of salt detracts from the effect of the approved disinfectants; and whether he will make a statement which will include details of experiments carried out in his laboratories relative to this matter.
Yes. The addition of antifreeze will not impair the efficacy of disinfectants during frost. It is important to change the disinfectant frequently, and this should be done whether there is frost or not. Salt does impair the efficacy of disinfectants, and I am issuing a press notice about the use of disinfectants during frost, pointing this out.Experiments relating to foot-and-mouth disease are only carried out at Pirbright and are a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has considered the information sent to him on 22nd November by the hon. Member for the Isle of Wight concerning a possible method of providing immunity from foot-and-mouth disease; and whether he will consider instructing his Department to investigate and test the product used in such a method with a view to its use in the United Kingdom.
I have considered this information. My policy is to stamp out the disease by slaughter of affected animals and contacts, and prophylactic measures have no place in this policy. Such measures were examined by the Gowers Committee in 1952–54 and the independent committee which I have undertaken to set up when the present emergency ends, to examine our policy and arrangements for dealing with foot-and-mouth disease, will no doubt examine any further representations made to them.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will consider a scheme of financial assistance for farmers who have suffered loss through foot-and-mouth disease but whose farms are of such a character as not to allow them to convert their enterprise to arable farming.
I have noted my hon. Friend's suggestion and will make a statement at a later date.
Food And Drink Industries (Prices)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on his recent discussions with representatives of the food and drink industry concerning methods of keeping prices down; and whether in these discussions account was taken of the recent rise in price of 141 food items and the 5d. in the £ sterling rise in food prices since the recently announced devaluation.
During the past week I have met representatives of all the principal trade associations in the food and drink industries in order to discuss the Government's policy on prices after devaluation.I made it clear that the Government recognised that inevitably there would be price increases as a result of devaluation, and so increased retail prices. I also made clear, however, that it was essential that such increases should be no more than were strictly necessary.I emphasised the importance the Government attached to the price surveillance arrangements which had been developed in co-operation with the industry. For price increases sought for reasons other than devaluation, the criteria set out in the White Paper on Prices and Incomes Policy after 30th June, 1967 (Cmnd. 3235) would stand. Such increases would continue to be rigorously examined to ensure that increased costs could not be absorbed.The representatives of the trade associations emphasised that they were faced with extra costs, many of them beyond their control. They pointed out that competition would have a strong influence on prices. They agreed to convey my views to their members and assured me of their continued co-operation.
As regards the second part of the Question, the Government have always recognised that it is impossible to freeze the price of all foods. It is of no particular significance if, out of the many thousands of lines of foodstuffs, 141 rise.
I have no evidence of a rise of 5d. in the £ in food prices since devaluation. But, apart from devaluation, other factors, such as the disruption caused by the foot-and-mouth epidemic, and extra costs due to the dock strike, are at present affecting some food prices.
Fish Protein
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what research he is doing to provide fish protein concentrate to meet an animal feeding requirement by tapping the marine ecological chain at an early stage, by filtering out and processing concentrates of small crustaceans living in the sea.
The Natural Environment Research Council are considering an investigation of Antarctic krill as a potential source of protein, but the development of techniques for the commercial catching and utilisation of these crustaceans presents problems of great difficulty.
Fat Cattle (Deficiency Payments)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what arrangements he proposes to make in the new year for abatements and supplements to the deficiency payments on fat cattle.
When I announced on 26th July that the scale of abatements and supplements on fat cattle would be virtually phased out for the remainder of 1967 to meet the exceptional market conditions of last summer, I said we would consider before the end of the year whether the modified arrangements needed to be extended.Market prices now seem likely to be firm during the first quarter of 1968 so there appears to be no justification for prolonging the present exceptional arrangements. However, to prevent any possible disturbance arising from a sudden restoration of the system, the scale of abatements and supplements will be restored gradually. Starting with a maximum of 1s. for abatements and 8d. for supplements in the first week of January there will be weekly increases of 1s. and 8d. respectively until the week begining 18th March, 1968. After that a final addition of 6d. to abatements and 4d. to supplements will bring both back to their original maxima of 12s. 6d. and 8s. 4d. per live cwt. in the last week of the fat-stock year.
Transport
Bus Fares
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will seek powers to control increases in bus fares in large municipal authorities.
Fares charged by bus undertakings generally are already controlled by the independent Traffic Commissioners according to criteria laid down in the Road Traffic Act, 1960 and the Prices and Incomes Act, 1966.
Bus Services (Long Eaton)
asked the Minister of Transport what steps she is taking to ensure that adequate bus services are made available for residents in the Long Eaton area who will be inconvenienced by the proposed closure of Trent Railway Station.
My right hon. Friend asked the Railways Board if certain extra bus services could be provided and these have already been introduced by the bus operator concerned.
Road Freight (Scotland)
asked the Minister of Transport what estimate she has made of the proportion of road freight originating in North-East Scotland which is carried more than 100 miles, and of the proportion of road freight coming to North-East Scotland which is carried more than 100 miles.
An estimate will be available when the results of the 1967–68 Roads Goods Survey, now proceeding, are to hand.
Goods Vehicles (Scotland)
asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated number of goods vehicles over 16 tons gross weight in each of the counties and cities of Scotland.
Vehicle statistics are not recorded by gross weight: over 5 tons unladen weight is the nearest equivalent.
| NUMBER OF GENERAL AND AGRICULTURAL GOODS VEHICLES OF OVER FIVE TONS UNLADEN WEIGHT REGISTERED IN SCOTLAND IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF 1966 | |
| County or Burgh | Number of vehicles |
| Aberdeen B.C. | 675 |
| Aberdeen C.C. | 404 |
| Angus C.C. | 142 |
| Dundee B.C. | 375 |
| Argyll C.C. | 59 |
| Ayr C.C. | 574 |
| Banff C.C. | 95 |
| Berwick C.C. | 58 |
| Bute C.C. | 1 |
| Caithness C.C. | 29 |
| Clackmannan C.C | 36 |
| Dumfries C.C. | 399 |
| Dunbarton C.C. | 223 |
| East Lothian C.C. | 74 |
| Fife C.C. | 369 |
| Kirkaldy B.C. | 97 |
| Inverness C.C. | 137 |
| Kincardine C.C. | 60 |
| Kinross C.C. | 6 |
| Kirkcudbright C.C | 52 |
| Glasgow B.C. | 2,101 |
| Lanark C.C | 1,064 |
| Motherwell of Wishaw B.C. | 246 |
| Coatbridge B.C. | 123 |
| Edinburgh B.C. | 1,112 |
| Midlothian C.C. | 234 |
| Moray C.C | 78 |
| Nairn C.C. | 13 |
| Orkney C.C | 3 |
| Peebles C.C | 12 |
| Perth C.C. | 269 |
| Greenock B.C. | 60 |
| Paisley B.C. | 213 |
| Renfrew C.C. | 184 |
| Ross and Cromarty C.C. | 66 |
| Roxburgh C.C. | 50 |
| S elkirk C.C | 18 |
| S tirling C.C | 835 |
| S utherland C.C. | 28 |
| West Lothian C.C | 405 |
| Wigtown C.C. | 50 |
| Zetland C.C. | 1 |
| Total | 11,030 |
Motor Vehicle Steering Systems(Safe Design)
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has to introduce, as a safety measure, regulations requiring motor vehicles to have a steering wheel designed to yield under a prescribed impact load.
An Economic Commission for Europe Group of Rapporteurs on General Safety Provisions has worked out a draft international regulation for the safe design of steering systems. The United Kingdom has taken part in this work and as soon as the final text becomes available, we will consider how to apply it in this country.
Road Accidents
asked the Minister of Transport what reduction in road casualties there have been since the introduction of the new drink and driving legislation; and if she will give the figures.
During the period 9th to 31st October, 1967, there were 409 deaths, 5,348 serious injuries, and 16,041 slight injuries on roads in Great Britain. This represents a reduction of 12 per cent. compared with the corresponding period in 1966. Traffic during this period is estimated to have increased by 5 per cent.In the first eight days of October the reduction over the corresponding days last year was 2 per cent.For October as a whole the reduction in fatal and serious casualties during normal working hours (8 a.m.-6 p.m.) was 2 per cent. Between 6 and 8 p.m. the reduction was less than 1 per cent. But between 8 p.m. and 4 a.m. the reduction was 36 per cent.
Railways
Trent Station (Closure)
asked the Minister of Transport what investigation of the possibilities of its economical operation within the terms of her recently announced transport policies she made before consenting to the closure of Trent Railway Station.
After careful examination of the various factors involved my right hon. Friend concluded that there was no prospect that passenger services at Trent station could be economic.
Greece
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in view of the fact that Her Majesty's Government's recognition of the Greek Government is no longer valid now that the Greek King has been forced to flee Greece he will now take steps to propose that Greece be expelled from the Council of Europe and from the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.
The situation in Greece remains confused. It is still too early to take a decision on the first question which arises, namely recognition of the régime.
Falkland Islands(Anglo-Argentine Talks)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the talks held with the Argentinian Government on the question of the Argentinian claim to the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the Sandwich Islands; and whether he will reaffirm Her Majesty's Government's policy not to cede the sovereignty of these islands to Argentina.
My noble Friend Lord Caradon wrote on 14th December to the Secretary-General of the United Nations reporting on the Anglo-Argentine talks on the Falkland Islands. A copy of his letter will be placed in the Library of the House as soon as possible. There is nothing I can at present add to this letter.
Gibraltar
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will make a statement on the latest United Nations resolution regarding Gibraltar.
The Resolution passed by the Fourth Committee of the General Assembly of the United Nations on 16th December was a bad one and we voted against it. In the statement which he made to the Committee my right hon. and noble Friend, Lord Caradon, explained clearly why the provisions of the Resolution were unacceptable to us and pointed out among other things that they flouted the Charter of the United Nations, which expressly states that for the administering power the interests of the people of a dependent territory are paramount. Copies of Lord Caradon's statement are being placed in the Library of the House.
Commonwealth Primeministers (Meeting)
asked the Prime Minister what proposals he has for a fresh meeting of Commonwealth Prime Ministers.
None at present.
Rhodesia
asked the Prime Minister if he will make a further statement on relations with Rhodesia and proposals for a settlement.
I have nothing to add to the Statement made on 12th December by my right hon. Friend the Commonwealth Secretary.—[Vol. 756, c. 211.]
asked the Prime Minister whether, having regard to the national economy, he will seek an early opportunity of meeting the Rhodesian Prime Minister with a view to an early settlement.
No.
Unidentified Flying Objects
asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied that all sightings of unidentified flying objects which are reported from service sources are explainable; what inquiries he has authorised into these objects outside the defence aspect; and whether he will now appoint one Minister to look into all aspects of reports.
The Answers are: "Yes, except when the information given is insufficient"; "None"; and "No".
Public Expenditure
asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied with the working of machinery for co-ordination between Government Departments responsible for securing reductions in public expenditure as a result of the devaluation of the £ sterling; and if he will make a statement.
Yes.
European Economiccommunity
asked the Prime Minister, in view of the fact that France will not agree to Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community as long as General de Gaulle is President of the Republic, and since there is no evidence that he will cease to be President for many years to come, what alternative plans Her Majesty's Government envisage in the future.
I have nothing to add to the reply I gave on 7th November to a supplementary question by the hon. Member.—[Vol. 753, c. 831–2.]
asked the Prime Minister what consideration he has given to an arrangement whereby British entry into the Common Market should be preceded by a fixed term transitional arrangement, with full membership thereafter; and what conclusion he has reached.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave on 23rd November to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell).—[Vol. 754, c.428]
asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his future policy with regard to Great Britain's application to join the Common Market, having regard to the recent discussions of the Council of Ministers.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave earlier today to similar Questions on this subject.
Indian Ocean (Internationalmarine Science Programme)
asked the Prime Minister whether in his meeting with President Johnson he will raise the question of Anglo-American co-operation in setting up small, low-cost scientific stations in the Indian Ocean, as part of a coherent international marine science programme.
No. I think it would be premature to raise this matter until the enormous task of making a full scientific assessment of the mass of data collected by many countries during the International Indian Ocean Expedition has been made.
South Africa (Armsorders)
asked the Prime Minister how many jobs he estimates the £140 million order from South Africa for naval arms would provide in this country; and what alternative export orders he can offer, in order to implement the Government's policy of providing full employment.
The hon. Member knows that it is not the practice to give details of arms orders or inquiries. I am sure he will understand, therefore, that it is equally not possible to give the estimates for which he asks. As to the final part of his Question, he will know that devaluation has created a wide range of further opportunities for profitable exports.
British Museum Library
asked the Prime Minister what reply he has sent to the petition concerning the British Museum Library which he has received from representatives of universities, learned societies and others.
My reply was published on 12th December and a copy is in the Library.
British Marine Scienceprogramme
asked the Prime Minister what steps he is taking to co-ordinate the existing and proposed work of the British Marine Science Programme between the Department of Education and Science, the Ministry of Technology and the Foreign Office.
Action must, I think, await the outcome of the review—which I expect to be completed early in the New Year—referred to by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in answer to a Question by my hon. Friend on 3rd July.
Press Council (Booklet)
asked the Attorney-General whether he has considered the Press Council Booklet No. 1, a copy of which has been sent to him; and whether he will arrange for the general subject-matter of contempt and the Press, together with all associated issues, to be referred to the Law Commission or to the appropriate body for review.
As I stated yesterday in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend for Harrow, East (Mr. Roebuck), the Government is studying this booklet, and considering whether there should be a review of the law of contempt as it applies to Tribunals of Inquiry. In my view, there are no grounds for a general review of the law of contempt.—[Vol. 756, c. 918–19.]
Marine Environment(Legal Problems)
asked the Attorney-General what general study he is making of the legal problems involved in the development of the marine environment; and if he will make a statement.
None, but if my hon. Friend has in mind any particular legal problem arising in this field I will arrange for consideration to be given to it.
Legal Aid (Tribunals)
asked the Attorney-General, in cases of dispute between ground landlord and the lessee as to the amount of the purchase price for the freehold to be decided by the lands tribunal, if he will consider the extension of legal aid facilities to tribunals such as the Land Tribunal.
My noble Friend the Lord Chancellor has referred to the Advisory Committee set up under the provisions of Section 13 of the Legal Aid and Advice Act, 1949, the question of the tribunals to which legal aid should be extended when financial circumstances permit, and what priority this should have, both as between individual tribunals, and as compared with other extensions of the Legal Aid and Advice schemes. In considering these matters, the Committee will take account of the need for legal aid in the cases my hon. schools.
Ministry Of Defence
Defence Expenditure (Wales)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence, if he will break down the 3 per cent. of Defence Budget expenditure which is spent in Wales to show how it is distributed.
Two-thirds on personnel; one-sixth on research, development and production; one-twelfth on works and lands and one-twelfth on miscellaneous expenditure.
Polaris Submarines
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated cost of the Polaris programme in 1967–68 and 1968–69; and what is the estimated cost on the basis of an immediate cancellation of the whole programme.
About £70 million and £55 million respectively. Immediate cancellation would save only a small proportion of these sums, because more than 90 per cent. of the capital cost of the programme has already been committed.
F111 Aircraft
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish the contract as to the purchase of the F111 aircraft; what would be the cost, excluding offset arrangements, in compensation payments of a cancellation at this time on the grounds that there was no longer a need for the aircraft; and if he will make a statement.
I have nothing to add to the Answers I gave to the hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock) on 13th December and the hon. Member for West Aberdeenshire, West (Mr. James Davidson) yesterday.—[Vol. 756, c.131; Vol. 756, c.310]
Wessex Helicopter (Visits Topreparatory Schools)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on visits being currently under-taken by naval personal in an operational Wessex helicopter to private preparatory school
There are no such visits being currently undertaken.
Civilian Divers (Training)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he is doing to train manpower for routine civil diving tasks; and if he will make a statement.
Naval divers are given a very thorough training so that they can carry out the complex duties required by their service. It also enables them to undertake routine civil diving tasks when the Navy Department is asked to do so by civilian authorities. In addition civilian manned diving teams are trained to meet the specialised needs of salvage and dockyard maintenance.
Royal Navy (Oceanography)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps he is taking to broaden and enlarge the contribution of the Royal Navy to activity in the marine sciences, and the development of the marine environment.
During 1968–69 we plan to increase our effort in oceanography subject to the availability of staff; and will continue and extend our collaboration with the Natural Environment Research Council, the National Research and Development Corporation and the Ministry of Technology.
World Meteorological Organisation(British Contribution)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on British participation in the international programme in meteorology; and if he will evaluate the progress of the work.
As indicated in reply to the hon. Member for Rutherglen (Mr. Gregor Mackenzie) on 8th November, the United Kingdom is to make a substantial contribution to the World Weather Watch plan of the World Meteorological Organisation during 1968–71. A new upper air station which will meet World Weather Watch requirements is already operational at the R.A.F. staging post at Masirah. Trials will shortly be made of upper air soundings from a merchant ship at sea. Planning of other activities is proceeding satisfactorily. I am writing to the hon. Member.
Civilian Employment
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will estimate the number of jobs in Scotland, England and Wales, respectively, principally arising from or dependent upon defence expenditure.
Disproportionate effort and expense would be required to compile this information.
Royal Scots Greys (Zurich Store)
asked the Secretary of State for- Defence why two pipers of the Royal Scots Greys at the instance of the British Defence Attaché at Berne were sent to play to attact customers for a store in Zurich; and if it was with his consent that a printed advertisement to this effect was published inTages an Geigerdated 28th October, 1967.
The pipers played at a Scottish trade week promoted by a store which met all extra expenses; the arrangements were made locally and it vi as unnecessary for the Ministry of Defence to be consulted beforehand.
Education And Science
University Of Wales (Computer)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why the computer ICT 1905 which was installed at the Swansea College of the University of Wales to supplement their IBM 1620 is not available for use in the Cardiff College of the University of Wales; and why Cardiff will be connected for computer purposes with the universities of South-West England.
The ICT 1905 computer at the Swansea College of the University of Wales is available for use by the Cardiff College of the University of Wales if required. I understand, however, that pending delivery of an EEC 4/50 computer to the Cardiff College, its computing needs are being met, free of charge, by the manufacturers.
After the installation of the ICT 1905 at Swansea the Computer Board invited certain universities and university colleges in South-West England and in Wales to participate in an integrated system. All the institutions concerned, including the Cardiff College, supported the proposal.
Schools (Corporal Punishment)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will now make a statement on the ending of caning in schools for the disabled and in all primary schools.
My consultations on the recommendations of the Plowden Council have shown that the use of corporal punishment in all types of school is increasingy deprecated by teachers. But while there is very wide support for the view that corporal punishment should have no place as a regular method of school discipline, many teachers still hold that in some circumstances teachers would be in an impossible position if they were forbidden to use a reasonable amount of force by way of correction and if pupils knew that teachers were so forbidden. This was the view expressed in the note of reservation in the Plowden Report.My own view is that the practice of corporal punishment should disappear from our schools, and I hope that the local education authorities, the governing bodies of schools and the teachers themselves will all use their powers and influence to achieve this end. I am convinced that the use of corporal punishment for handicapped children should now cease entirely and I shall shortly be consulting the associations representing the teachers and the local education authorities on this aspect of the question.
Research Ships
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what plans there are to build research ships, in addition to the "John Murray".
The Natural Environment Research Council has accepted the results of the feasibility study for a second research vessel capable of a wide range of oceanographic research and this is in an advanced state of design. The need for a third vessel is under active consideration.The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food have placed an order for a new vessel costing £1 million designed for fisheries research in the Arctic and N.W. Atlantic in which the British Distant Water Fleet mainly fishes. It is also equipped to operate in the South Atlantic and will replace the "Ernest Holt" built in 1948.The Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland has placed an order for a new herring research vessel costing £190,000 to repace the "Clupea" built in 1945. The Department has also commissioned a design study for a vessel to replace the "Scotia" built in 1940. This will be basically a stern trawler but will also be equipped for hydrographic and other research work.
Marine Research
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what the Natural Environment Research Council is doing to ensure that sophisticated equipment is available to research workers in the field of the marine sciences.
Adequate funds have been made available by the Natural Environment Research Council for scientists in its own establishment and through grants to universities for the provision of the most advanced equipment for marine research. This applies particularly to the research vessels which are being provided with the most up to date scientific equipment available.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what study he is making of the possible use of small, relatively cheap manned submarines for exploration of the sea; and what study he is making of the possibility of using feeder cables for such vessels.
An intensive study is being made by the Natural Environment Research Council of the likely benefits in marine research which would result from the use of manned submarines. Scientists are by no means unanimous on this matter. A party of scientists sponsored by the Natural Environment Research Council visited the U.S.A. this autumn to inspect that country's developments in this field. Whilst formal conclusions have not been reached it is clear that manned submarines capable of doing effective research will not be cheap. Even small ones must incorporate rigorous and extensive safety, manipulator, and navigation equipment, and must be capable of being handled and serviced by an effective support vessel. The question of the use of cables linked to a mother ship will not be overlooked.
British National Oceanographicaldata Centre
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress is being made on the creation of a British National Oceanographical Datum Centre.
A Working Group of the Natural Environment Research Council is considering the case for a British National Oceanographic Data Centre. The Report of this Working Group will be considered by the Council early next year.
Wild Animals (Importation)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps are being considered to limit or forbid the import of animals which are in danger of extinction or whose protection is sought by the country of origin.
The importation of wild animals whose survival in the country of origin is threatened can be restricted or forbidden under the Animals (Restriction of Importation) Act, 1964. Animals listed in the Schedule to the Act may only be imported under a licence issued by the Board of Trade. My right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade and I are advised on the administration of the Act by an Advisory Committee of experts under the Chairmanship of Lord Cranbrook.
National Institute Of Oceanography
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what further steps he proposes to take to make the work of the National Institute of Oceanography better known.
The work of the National Institute of Oceanography, one of the component bodies of the Natural Environment Research Council, is reported in the Annual Reports published by N.I.O. (Cambridge University Press) and by the Council (H.M.S.O.). Scientific papers are regularly published in the journals of the learned societies of the appropriate discipline as is the custom with all civil scientific research and in particular the work of N.I.O. is specially published in the Discovery Reports.
Ministry Of Labour
Unemployment (Maltby Andrawmarsh)
asked the Minister of Labour what were the numbers of unemployed in the Maltby and Raw-marsh areas, respectively, up to the most recent date.
At 11th December, 1967, the total numbers registered as unemployed in the areas covered by the Employment Exchanges at Maltby and Rotherham (which includes Rawmarsh) were 374 and 2,107, respectively.
National Union Of Bank Employees
asked the Minister of Labour if he will make a statement on the discussions which have taken place between his Department and the Trades Union Congress in relation to the securing of negotiating rights for the National Union of Bank Employees.
I have nothing to add at present to the Answers to Questions on this subject on 18th December, 1967.—[Vol. 756, c. 891–
Redundant Workers (Tyneside)
asked the Minister of Labour if he is aware that the decision to move contracts for Chieftan tanks and naval arms from Tyneside to Leeds and Barrow-in-Furness will result in 1,500 workers on Tyneside becoming redundant; what steps he proposes to take to find alternative employment; and if he will make a statement.
Although there has been a run-down of labour at the firm concerned during recent months there is no evidence that the removal of these particu- lar contracts from Tyneside will cause redundancies on this scale. I am however watching the situation closely and my Ministry will give all possible assistance to the redundant workers should the need arise.
Social Security
Retirement Pension(Increased Contribution)
asked the Minister of Social Security what increase she estimates to be necessary in the weekly National Insurance contributions of all workers in Scotland and Wales in order to provide a £2 increase in weekly retirement pensions in those two countries, respectively.
The cost in Great Britain of increasing the standard rate retirement pension for a single person by £2 and other rates of retirement pension (but not other benefits) in proportion could be met by increasing the employed person's contribution by about 5s. a week provided that the contributions of employers, self-employed persons and non-employed persons and the Exchequer supplement were proportionately increased. No separate estimates for Scotland and Wales are available because there is no separate analysis in sufficient detail of the insured population of those countries, for example of contribution categories.
Supplementary Benefit
asked the Minister of Social Security if she is aware that on the average only 3s. of a weekly allowance is given to pensioners in receipt of supplementary benefit for extra winter fuel; and if she will take steps to increase substantially this allowance.
I think the present arrangements are adequate, but it may be helpful if I explain them in more detail. The basic Supplementary Benefit rates are intended to cover normal requirements including heating. For people over pension age (and others) there is the 9s. long-term addition to meet special expenses such as the need for extra heating, but where special expenses total more than 9s., the Supplementary Benefit can be increased accordingly. If a person needs extra heating, for example because of bad health or accommodation which is damp or otherwise difficult to keep warm, the reckon-able expense taken into account varies according to the price of coal in the area. The ordinary figure taken into account for extra heating is now in most areas rather more than 3s. but this can in any case be increased where a person's circumstances warrant this—for example if there is very serious illness or bad health combined with poor accommodation. I would emphasise that any amount allowed is continued throughout the year.
Overseas Development
Burma (Minister's Visit)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development if he will make a statement on his visit to Burma; and what representations he made to the Burmese Government on British-Burmese relations.
I visited Burma from 4th to 12th December in order to lead the British delegation to the 18th meeting of the Colombo Plan Consultative Committee, which took place in Rangoon. Together with a number of other delegates to this meeting, I also paid a visit to the Shan State as the guest of the Government of the Union of Burma.At the Conference we naturally had a wide ranging discussion of all matters of concern to the Colombo Plan. Whilst I met the Burmese Head of State and other Ministers. I made no representations to them on British-Burmese relations.
Overseas Officers
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what pension arrangements Her Majesty's Government makes for overseas officers serving in Commonwealth countries which become independent and who continue to serve under the new Governments.
Pensions arrangements are not affected when a Commonwealth country becomes independent. Pensions are paid by overseas Governments to officers on retirement if they are eligible to receive them under the local pensions legislation.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what compensation arrangements Her Majesty's Government makes for overseas officers serving in Commonwealth countries which become independent and who continue to serve under the new Governments.
Compensation arrangements are made for overseas officers serving in Commonwealth countries which become independent in accordance with the general principles outlined in Cmnd. 1193. These provide for the payment of compensation by instalments over a period of years to officers who continue to serve. As an illustration, I have sent the hon. Member a copy of the Establishment Circular and the explanatory notes relating to a compensation scheme for an overseas country which became independent fairly recently.
Post Office
Head Post Offices (Rationalisation)
asked the Postmaster-General what proposals he has for rationalising the management of head post offices.
For some time now I have been reviewing the smaller Head Post Offices as opportunity occurred to consider whether they were sensible administrative units in modern conditions. It is clear that administration can be more efficiently and economically carried out from fewer centres. Future changes in the handling of mail due to mechanisation and concentration of postal work also fit in with this pattern.I have therefore decided to concentrate the administration on a smaller number of centres responsible for larger areas. Some 400 offices will be affected by this reorganisation. A list follows of all the present Head Offices. Those which will become, in due course, the new area administrative centres are marked with an asterisk. As part of this reorganisation the title of Head Postmaster will progressively disappear. Each of the towns in the list will have its own Postmaster; but some 180 Postmasters will also have administrative responsibility for an Area. The new pattern will come into being over the next few years. The list cannot be definitive at this stage, and changes may have to be made in it if circumstances alter.This streamlining of administration, which w ill lead to very worthwhile savings, will not affect services to the public in any way.The Staff Assocations have been kept fully informed, and I have recently con-cluded a comprehensive agreement with them about the treatment of individuals affected by these changes. I shall continue to do all I can to minimise inconvenience to the staff concerned.
| Aberdare | *Bradford. |
| *Aberdeen | Braintree. |
| Abergavenny | Brentwood. |
| *Aberystwyth. | *Bridgend. |
| Abingdon. | Bridgnorth |
| *Aldershot | Bridgwater. |
| Alloa. | Bridlington. |
| Alnwick | Bridport. |
| Alton | *Brighton. |
| *Altrincham | *Bristol |
| Andover. | *Bromley and Beckenham |
| Arbroath | |
| Ardrossan | Burnley. |
| Armagh | Burton on Trent. |
| *Ashford | Bury. |
| Ashton and Stalybridge | *Bury St. Edmunds. |
| Buxton | |
| *Aylesbury | Caernarvon. |
| *Ayr | Camberley. |
| *Ballymena | Camborne and Redruth |
| Banbury | |
| Banff | *Cambridge |
| *Bangor | *Campbeltown. |
| *Barmouth | *Canterbury |
| Barnet | *Cardiff. |
| *Barnsley | *Carlisle |
| *Barnstaple | *Carmarthen. |
| Barrow in Furness | Castle Douglas. |
| Barry. | *Chelmsford. |
| *Basildon. | Cheltenham. |
| *Basingstoke | Chesham and Amersham |
| *Bath | |
| *Bathgate. | *Chester |
| Beccles | *Chesterfield |
| *Bedford | *Chichester |
| *Belfast | Chippenham. |
| *Berwick on Tweed. | Chorley. |
| Beverley. | Cirencester. |
| Bexhill-on-Sea | Clacton-on-Sea. |
| Bideford. | *Coatbridge and Airdrie |
| Biggar | |
| *Birmingham | *Colchester. |
| Bishop Auckland | *Coleraine |
| Bishop's Stortford. | Cookstown. |
| *Blackburn and Accrington. | *Coventry. |
| Cowes. | |
| *Blackpool. | *Crawley. |
| Blandford Forum | *Crewe. |
| *Bletchley | Crieff. |
| Bodmin | Cromer. |
| Bognor Regis | *Croydon. |
| *Bolton. | Cupar. |
| *Boston. | *Darlington |
| *Bournemouth and Poole | *Dartford. |
| Deal. |
| Denbigh. | Helston |
*Derby. | *Hemel Hempstead. |
| Dereham. | *Hereford. |
| Dewsbury and Batley | Hertford |
| Hexham | |
| Dingwall. | *High Wycombe. |
| Diss. | Hinckley. |
*Doncaster | *Hitchin and Letchworth. |
*Dorchester | |
| Douglas | Horsham. |
*Dover. | *Hounslow |
| Driffield. | *Huddersfield. |
*Dudley | *Hull |
*Dumbarton | Huntingdon. |
*Dumfries. | *Huntly. |
*Dundee | *Ilford and Barking. |
*Dunfermline. | Ilfracombe. |
| Dungannon | *Inverness. |
| Dunoon. | *Ipswich. |
| Duns | *Jersey. |
*Durham | Keighley. |
*Eastbourne. | Kelso |
| East Grinstead. | Kendall. |
| Edgware | Kettering. |
*Edinburgh | Kidderminster. |
*Elgin. | *Kilmarnock. |
*Enfield. | Kingsbridge. |
*Enniskillen. | *Kings Lynn. |
| Epsom. | *Kingston on Thames. |
| Evesham. | Kirkcaldy. |
*Exeter. | *Kirk wall. |
| Exmouth | *Kyle. |
| Fakenham. | Lanark. |
*Falkirk | Lancaster and Morecambe. |
| Falmouth. | |
| Fareham. | Leatherhead. |
| Farnham. | *Leeds. |
| Folkestone. | *Leicester. |
| Forfar. | Leigh, Lanes. |
| Fort William. | Leominster. |
| Fraserburgh | *Lerwick. |
| Frome | Leven. |
| Gainsborough | Lewes. |
*Galashiels | *Lichfield. |
| Girvan | *Lincoln. |
*Glasgow | Lisburn. |
*Gloucester | Liskeard. |
| Godalming | Littlehampton. |
| Goole. | *Liverpool. |
*Grantham. | *Llandrindod Wells. |
| Grantown on Spey | *Llandudno and Colwyn Bay. |
| Gravesend. | |
| Grays | *Llanelly. |
*Great Yarmouth. | Lochgilphead. |
*Greenock and Port Glasgow | Lockerbie |
*Londonderry | |
*Grimsby. | Loughborough. |
*Guernsey | Louth. |
*Guildford. | Lowestoft. |
| Haddington. | Ludlow. |
*Halifax. | Lurgan. |
| Halstead. | *Luton. |
| Hamilton. | Lydney. |
*Harlow | Lymington. |
*Harrogate. | Macclesfield. |
*Harrow and Wembley | Maidenhead. |
*Maidstone. | |
| Hartlepools, The | *Manchester. |
| Harwich | Mansfield. |
| Haslemere. | *Margate. |
*Hastings | Market Drayton. |
*Haverfordwest | Market Harborough. |
*Hawick | Marlborough. |
| Haywards Heath | Matlock. |
| Helensburgh. | Melton Mowbray. |
| Merthyr Tydfil | Ryde. |
*Middlesbrough and Stockton on Tees | Saffron Walden. |
*St. Albans. | |
| Milford Haven and Pembroke Dock | St. Andrews. |
| St. Austell | |
| Minehead. | *Salisbury. |
| Montrose. | Saxmundham. |
*Morpeth. | Scarborough. |
*Motherwell and Wishaw | *Scunthorpe. |
| Selby. | |
| Neath. | Sevenoaks. |
| Newark | Shaftesbury. |
| Newbury. | Sheerness. |
*Newcastle on Tyne | *Sheffield. |
| Newmarket | *Shrewsbury. |
*Newport, I.O.W. | Sittingbourne |
*Newport, Mon | Skegness. |
| Newquay | *Slough. |
*Newry. | *Southall. |
| Newton Abbot | *Southampton. |
| Newton Stewart | *Southend on Sea. |
| Newtown. | Southport |
| Northallerton | Spalding. |
*Northampton | Stafford. |
| North and South Shields | Staines. |
*Stirling. | |
| North Berwick. | *Stockport. |
*Norwich | *Stoke on Trent. |
*Nottingham. | *Stornoway. |
| Nuneaton | Stourbridge. |
*Oban. | Stowmarket. |
| Okehampton. | Stranraer. |
*Oldham | Stratford-on-Avon. |
*Omagh. | Stroud, Glos. |
| Oswestry. | *Sunderland. |
*Oxford | *Sutton. |
*Paisley. | *Swansea. |
| Peebles. | *Swindon. |
| Penrith | Tamworth. |
| Penzance | *Taunton. |
*Perth | Tavistock. |
*Peterborough | Thetford. |
| Peterhead. | Thurso. |
| Petersfield | Tiverton. |
| Pitlochry | *Tonbridge. |
*Plymouth | *Torquay. |
| Pontefract and Castleford | Totnes. |
*Trowbridge. | |
*Pontypridd and Porth. | *Truro. |
*Tunbridge Wells. | |
*Portadown. | Ulverston. |
| Portmadoc | Uxbridge. |
*Portsmouth and Gosport | *Wakefield. |
*Walsall | |
| Port Talbot | Waltham Cross. |
*Preston. | Walton on Thames and Weybridge |
| Pwllheli | |
| Ramsgate. | Warminster. |
*Reading. | *Warrington. |
| Redditch. | *Warwick and Leamington |
*Reigate and Redhill | |
*Rhyl. | *Watford. |
| Richmond and Twickenham | *Wellington. |
| Welshpool. | |
| Richmond, Yorks. | West Bromwich. |
| Ripon | Weston-super-Mare. |
| Rochdale | Weymouth. |
*Rochester and Chatham | Whitby. |
| Whitehaven. | |
*Romford and Dagenham. | *Wick. |
| Wigan. | |
*Rotherham. | Wimborne. |
| Rothesay. | Winchester. |
*Rugby. | *Windsor. |
| Wisbech. | Workington. |
*Woking | Worksop. |
| Wokingham. | *Worthing. |
*Wolverhampton | *Wrexham. |
| Woodbridge. | Yeovil. |
| Woodford Green. | *York. |
*Worcester |
Wireless And Television
Radio-2 (Scotland)
asked the Postmaster-General whether proposals have been made by the British Broadcasting Corporation to improve reception of Radio-2 in Scotland.
I have authorised the B.B.C. to open low-power stations at Glasgow and Edinburgh to relay Radio-2 (the light Programme) on one of the international common medium wavelengths, 1484, kHz, 202 metres. Because this wavelength can only be used at very low power, the range of stations using it will be very limited and they are therefore of most value in serving urban areas. The Corporation tell me that if all goes well, both these stations should be open before Christmas.
Public Building And Works
Construction Industries(Use Of Steel)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if, in all public building under his control, he will ensure the use of steel in its construction wherever practicable in order to avoid serious redundancies in that indu-try; and if he will make a statement.
I am conscious of the importance of steel to the construction industries, and of using steel frame construction in the most economic and efficient manner.My Department has developed a form of composite steel frame construction for use with large span multi-storey buildings of heavy capacity.A number of notable examples of this form of construction are now in use; such as the new Giro complex at Bootle and the central sorting offices at Holborn, Canning Town, Birmingham and Manchester for the Post Office. Many others are in the planning stage.
My Department always considers the use of steel frame construction for the public building which it carries out. The choice of material is made after careful consideration of all the circumstances in each case.
Scotland
British Standard Time
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what organisations or associations in Scotland have indicated to him their wish for or opposition to the introduction of British Standard Time.
The views of the organisations an d associations that I consulted were not all given in a form that permits a clear division between those for and those against the introduction of British Standard Time.
Police Officers (Promotion Rank)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to provide for a new promotion rank between a police constable and a police sergeant as a further encouragement to able officers; and if he will make a statement.
I do not see any scope for the introduction of a rank between constable and sergeant with duties sufficiently distinct from both.
Schoolchildren (Swimminginstruction)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) how many schoolchildren were taught to swim in Scotland in schemes approved by the Scottish Education Department in the years 1964, 1965, 1966 and to the nearest available date in 1967; (2) which education authorities in Scotland carry out swimming instruction schemes; and what numbers of schoolchildren have benefited.
My Department does not give specific approval to schemes for swimming instruction in schools. Where facilities are available swimming instruction is given as part of physical education. I do not have details of the numbers of pupil s receiving instruction or of the schools which are able to provide it, but, as a result of the four annual "Learn to Swim" weeks in Scotland (organised jointly by the Scottish Council for Physical Recreation and the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents with the support of the Scottish Education Department and the Scottish Home and Health Department), 150,000 non-swimmers, mainly young people, have undertaken instruction.
Bridgeton Clinic (Closure)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware of the widespread concern at the official proposal to close the orthopaedic, rheumatic and foot clinic at Bridgeton, Glasgow; and if he will take steps to ensure that this essential service will continue to be conveniently available to the people in the east end of Glasgow.
The Board of Management for Glasgow Royal Infirmary and Associated Hospitals, under whose management the Bridgeton Clinic comes, has submitted a proposal to close it to the Western Regional Hospital Board. The Regional Board has set up a small committee to consider the full implications of the proposal, including whether suitable alternative arrangements for the treatment of patients are available. The Regional Board has also invited the views of Glasgow Corporation, the Glasgow Executive Council and Local Medical Committee.If the Regional Board, after its consultations are completed, wishes to close the Clinic, it will require to obtain my approval, and I shall keep in mind the points my hon. Friend and other hon. Members have made.
Potatoes (Producers' Prices)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the average producers' price for potatoes in each region of Scotland in October, November and the first half of December, 1967; how this compares with the guarantee price; if he is satisfied with the present level of returns; and if he will make a statement.
No estimate is made of average producers' prices for ware potatoes for regions within Scotland, but I am sending the hon. Member a copy of recent market reports issued by the Potato Marketing Board which quote a range indicating the general run of prices for the main types of potatoes marketed in southern, central and northern Scotland.As to the remainder of the Question, I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave yesterday to the hon. Member for Fife. East (Sir J. Gilmour).—[Vol. 756, c.
318–9]
School-Building Projects
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made with the school-building programme in Scotland this year compared with last.
There has so far been a substantial increase in the value of school-building projects approved and started, as is shown in the table set out below:—
| SCHOOL BUILDING IN SCOTLAND | ||
| 1966 | 1967 | |
| January-November | January-November | |
| Value of projects approved in period | £l1·3 million | £24·8 million |
| January- October | January-October | |
| Value of projects started in period. | £14·8 million | £23·6 million |
Land Commission (Acquisitions)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what acreage of land has been acquired by the Land Commission in Scotland on its own behalf, how much on behalf of the Highland Development Board and how much on behalf of the local authorities, to the latest convenient date.
A number of projects are under consideration, but as yet no land has been acquired by the Land Commission in Scotland.
Livestock Units (Valuation Rolls)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the need to increase home food production following devaluation, he will introduce legislation to amend the Valuation and Rating (Scotland) Act, 1956 to exclude all livestock units from valuation rolls.
Representations made by the National Farmers' Union of Scotland on this subject are being considered.
Hospitals (Waiting Lists)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons in Scotland are awaiting admission to Scottish hospitals for treatment.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor) on Wednesday, 6th December, 1967.—[Vol. 755, c.310]