Written Answers To Questions
Wednesday, 20th December, 1967
Roads
Channel Tunnel
26.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she intends that the Charnel Tunnel should be financed by private investment or from Government funds.
The agreement between the British and French Governments is that the Tunnel will be built with finance from private sources if this can be secured on terms acceptable to the two Governments: but participation from public funds in the risk capital is not excluded, and the operation of the tunnel will be entrusted to an Anglo-French public authority.
45.
asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the recent devaluation of sterling, what are her present plans for the commencement of work on the Channel Tunnel.
We do not expect the timing of the Channel Tunnel project to be affected by the recent devaluation of sterling.
Motorways
39.
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for constructing an east-west motorway joining South Wales to East Anglia with links to the MI in the Luton-Northampton region.
Estimates of future traffic demands show that such an additional motorway would not be justified. Schemes already programmed and others in the trunk road preparation pool and the principal road preparation list will, however, improve road communications between East Anglia and the existing and planned motorway system.
40.
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for developing and extending urban motorways in London; and if she will make a statement.
We have various plans for bringing the national motorways into outer London. The Greater London Council are responsible for planning metropolitan roads, including the primary network further in. My right hon. Friend is at present considering proposals they have put to her.
81.
asked the Minister of Transport when a final decision will be taken regarding the line of the motorway provisionally proposed by the Greater London Council to cross Barnes Common and the village of Barnes; when work is scheduled to commence; and if she will require the local authority to reconsider their plan to include this proposed road link in the London motorway box scheme.
The scheme is still under investigation by the Greater London Council. We have not seen any detailed proposals which might affect Barnes, but a link between the Southern "C" Ring at Wandsworth, and the Northern C "Ring at Chiswick is an important part of the primary road network planned for London.
Road Track Costs
41.
asked the Minister of Transport when the Government intends to publish the report on road track costs on which the new licensing proposals are based.
I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to the hon. Member for Tavistock (Mr. Michael Heseltine) on 18th December.—[Vol. 756, c. 305.]
asked the Minister of Transport when she will publish the survey of track costs.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Tavistock (Mr. Michael Heseltine) on 18th December, 1967.—[Vol. 756, c. 305.]
Construction And Maintenance(Goods Vehicle Tax)
42.
asked the Minister of Transport whether the proceeds from the wear-and-tear tax, which will reflect the extra costs imposed on the roads by heavy-goods vehicles, will be allocated specifically to road construction and maintenance.
No. But as stated in the White Paper on the Transport of Freight, the proposal must be viewed against the background that the Government is committed to a continuing programme of heavy expenditure on roads.
M23
69.
asked the Minister of Transport what proposals she has for bringing the M23 motorway through Wandsworth; how many houses will be affected; and how many families will require rehousing.
None. Our plans are for the M23 to terminate in Streatham Vale at a junction with the proposed "C" Ring Road. Any future extension of the motorway northwards would be for the Greater London Council to undertake.
Breath Testing Devices(Sale By Publicans)
78.
asked the Minister of Transport whether, in order to prevent persons committing offences under the Road Safety Act, 1967, she will take steps to enable publicans to stock and sell safe breathalysers so that customers may know in advance when they are in danger of committing an offence.
No. Although we have taken no powers to control the sale of these devices, we are anxious that they should not he used to encourage motorists to drink right up to the limit. Many people are impaired well below that point.
London Motorway Box(Householders' Compensation)
82.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will take steps, by legislation or otherwise, to enable the Greater London Council to compensate householders living near the line of a road and whose property will be affected by the proposed London motorway box system even if the property is not liable to demolition due to construction work.
No. We do not consider that compensation of this kind arising from new roads in Greater London should be paid on a different basis from that applying outside London or in respect of other forms of development.
Preston By-Pass
56.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she is now able to announce the date for the inclusion in the preparation pool of the Preston northerly by-pass link with the M6 motorway.
I have nothing to add to the Answer given to the hon. Member on 25th October.—[Vol. 751, c. 490.]
Publicly-Owned Service Stations
85.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement on the setting up of publicly-owned petrol filling and service stations on motorways in competition with those owned by the oil companies.
No.
Yellow Lines (Greater London)
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will issue regulations to make mandatory the marking of yellow lines on roads within meter zones in the Greater London area to indicate that parking is banned, in accordance with the general practice elsewhere.
We are considering whether it is necessary to make regulations as suggested by my hon. and gallant Friend. It is now the practice of highway authorities in Greater London to lay down yellow lines wherever waiting is prohibited within parking meter zones. It can happen, however, that yellow lines are temporarily obliterated during the carrying out of road works.
Road Chippings (Car Windscreens)
91.
asked the Minister of Transport what action she proposes to take to Prevent the large number of car windscreens being shattered daily by improperly sealed chippings on roads.
None. Provided drivers take proper heed of the warning signs and reduce speed accordingly the danger of broken windscreens from this cause should be minimal.
Tolls
92.
asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of the fact that the rate at which the motorway network is constructed is determined by the availability of resources, she will take steps to reduce costs by introducing a toll system similar to that used by the Italians on their autostrada, details of which are in her possession.
The real resources available for constructing motorways in this county could not be increased by adopting the methods by which they are financed in Italy. On the contrary, tolls on new lengths of motorway would increase their costs while reducing the use likely to be made of them.
Beverley By-Pass
96.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will make a statement about the progress of the Beverley ring road or by-pass.
Preparation of preliminary plans and estimates for the Beverley By-pass and the related diversion of the Hull-Beverley trunk road is nearing completion. Provided these are satisfactory, detailed work will continue to the stage at which the scheme can be considered for a place in the firm programme.
Snow Ploughs (Cost)
106.
asked the Minister of Transport what was the cost of buying 13 snow ploughs of foreign manufacture; and whether she will make a statement on the buying policy of her Department in view of the balance of payments.
Approximately £93,000.There were no ploughs of British manufacture available which would meet the requirements. In these circumstances the purchase of equipment of foreign manufacture is unavoidable but in general, having regard to the balance of payments situation, the closest consideration will be paid to the possibility of determining our requirements so as to enable the maximum use to be made of equipment of British manufacture.
M11
asked the Minister of Transport what is her programme for discussions between her Department and the Chigwell Urban District Council and the Epping and Ongar Rural District Council, respectively, on the route of the M11; and what arrangements have been made for local public inquiries into objections.
Discussions with officials of Epping and Ongar Rural District Council were held on 13th December, and similar meetings with Chigwell Urban District Council and other local authorities are under consideration. Meanwhile the need for a public inquiry remains an open question.
Road Accidents (Sunderland)
asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the figures of accidents on the roads in Sunderland county borough, involving fatal, serious and slight injury for each of the months of October and November, 1967, and the comparable figures for October and November, 1966.
The numbers of casualties in road accidents were as follows:
| October | November | |||
| 1967 | 1966 | 1967* | 1966 | |
| Fatal | — | 2 | 2 | 3 |
| Serious | 30 | 18 | 37 | 25 |
| Slight | 37 | 52 | 49 | 72 |
| Total | 67 | 72 | 88 | 100 |
| * Provisional figures. | ||||
Severn Bridge (Traffic Restriction)
asked the Minister of Transport on how many occasions traffic has had to be restricted on the Severn Bridge due of high winds during the last 12 months; and what action can be taken to reduce this inconvenience.
Since 1st January, 1967, vehicles at risk, e.g. lightly loaded pantechnicons or cars towing two-wheeled caravans, have been temporarily prevented from entering the bridge for their own safety on 22 occasions. The decision on this must be left to the police on duty.
Expenditure
asked the Minister of Transport what was the total public spending on roads in the period 1960 to 1965, compared with the actual and estimated expenditure on roads in 1965 to 1970.
Total public expenditure on roads in Great Britain during the five financial years 1960–61 to 1964–65 amounted to £1,527 million. This compares with total public expenditure and estimated total public expenditure on roads during the five financial years 1965–66 to 1969–70 of £2,700 million.
Railways
National Freight Corporation
33.
asked the Minister of Transport what she estimates will be the cost of setting up and maintaining the National Freight Corporation.
There will be a net saving, not a cost, as a result of the setting up of the N.F.C., since one of its principal functions will be to eliminate the inherited loss on sundries traffic, which forms part of the Railway Board deficit now met by the Exchequer.
Electrification Programme
48.
asked the Minister of Transport what plans she has for further electrification of railways in the United Kingdom; how much money has been set aside for electrification in each of the next five years, respectively; and whether she will consider a substantial yearly extension of railway electrification.
It is for the Railways Board to plan their investment. My right hon. Friend has at present no proposals from them for further electrification but she will consider any on their merits and in relation to the resources available. Money is not specifically set aside in advance for any particular form of investment.
77.
asked the Minister of Transport when she will authorise the British Railways Board to complete a detailed programme for the further introduction of electrification over the next five years.
I have no doubt that the Railways Board will, when planning their forward investment programme, consider the priority to be given to further electrification.
Passenger Services (Stalybridge-Stockport Line)
44.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will announce her decision on the proposal to close the stations at Denton and Reddish South and to withdraw the local railway passenger services between Stalybridge and Stockport, Edgeley; and if she will make a statement.
My right hon. Friend has decided that the stations at Denton and Reddish South should not be closed. This means that local passenger services will still be provided between Stalybridge and Stockport.
Investment Programme
47.
asked the Minister of Transport what cuts in the railway investment programme are expected following the devaluation of sterling.
£5 million in 1968 and £11 million in 1969.In particular my right hon. Friend has told the Railways Board that there can now be no question of a decision before the end of 1969 to proceed with the extension of the London-Midland Electrification to Glasgow.
Sir Stanley Raymond (Pension)
63.
asked the Minister of Transport what pension Sir Stanley Raymond, the former Chairman of British Railways, will now receive.
£2,218 16s. 8d. a year.
Minister's Powers Of Direction
64.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will explain the nature of the new powers she is seeking to give specific directions to the National Freight Corporation and the British Railways Board.
The powers of direction described in paragraph 33 of Cmnd. 3470, to which I assume the hon. Member refers, are now defined in Clause 6(1) of the Transport Bill. They would enable my right hon. Friend to take action on the recommendations made to her by the Freight Integration Council in pursuance of its duties as set out in that Clause and described in more detail in paragraph 32 of Cmnd. 3470.
Sundries Services (Losses)
66.
asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated loss for each the next three years for British Railways sundries service.
The Transport Bill, now before the House, provides for the National Freight Corporation to take over the railways sundries services. Much will depend on the Corporation's success in reducing the losses on the service, which are currently running at an annual rate of something under £25 million, but which are already being reduced by the rationalisation measures put in hand by the Railways Board.
Redundant Railway Workers
67.
asked the Minister of Transport in which grades the 200,000 railway workers are now employed who will be made redundant; and whether the railway unions have notified their acceptance of this further reduction of jobs in this industry.
There neither is nor could be a proposal to declare redundant 200,000 railway workers (nearly 60 per cent. of total staff). But some ordered and gradual decline in railway manpower over the next few years is inevitable. The various aspects of this will, of course, continue to be kept under constant review by the Board with the unions concerned.
Freightliner Service
68.
asked the Minister of Transport what advice she received from the former Chairman of British Railways, Sir Stanley Raymond, on her freightliner proposals.
It is not customary to disclose views expressed in confidential discussions between Ministers and the heads of the Boards of nationalised industries.
84.
asked the Minister of Transport what criteria she will employ to judge whether the freightliner services have developed sufficiently to justify the introduction of quantity licensing; and to what extent the number of days lost in strikes at freightliner depots or on the railway will influence her decisions in this matter.
The test will include the efficiency, reliability and extent of the freightliner services. The hon. Member may be assured that all relevant factors will be taken into account in making this decision.
Warrington-Motherwell Line(Electrification)
72.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will instruct the British Railways Board to expedite their report to her on the feasibility of mainline electrification between Warrington and Motherwell so that hundreds of electric traction workers in Preston, to be declared redundant in January, will have work.
No. The deferment of this project is among the cuts which have been made, following devaluation, in the investment programme of the nationalised industries. I understand, however, that this decision is unlikely to have any direct effect on employment in Preston early in the New Year.
Edinburgh-Corstorphine Line(Closure)
75.
asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the increase in the number of passengers who travelled on the railway line between Edinburgh and Corstorphine during November, 1966 and November, 1967, respectively, she will reconsider her decision to approve the closure of the line.
No; my right hon. Friend's decision was a final one but, in any case, I understand the increase was a purely temporary one due to special difficulties with the bus services.
Freight Traffic (Tonnage)
58.
asked the Minister of Transport what tonnage was accounted for by British Railways freight liner traffic, by the sundries service, and by that part of freight traffic which, under the new proposals, will remain under British Railways control, for the year 1966.
226,000 tons, 2·2 millions tons, and 211 million tons respectively.
Freight Liner Company(Chairman's Salary)
61.
asked the Minister of Transport what salary is to be offered to the Chairman of the Freight Liner Company.
This is a matter to be decided by the Chairman of the National Freight Corporation in consultation with the Chairman of the British Railways Board at the appropriate time.
Railway Workshops (Closures)
79.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will give a general direction to the Railways Board that no further closures are to be made at the railway workshops, in view of the anxiety among the workers.
It would not be appropriate to issue such a direction. The future of particular workshops is a matter for the Railways Board, who keep in close touch with the Government when major changes seem likely.
Closures
89.
asked the Minister of Transport what percentage of lines and stations scheduled for closure in the Beeching Report have actually been closed; and how many more lines and stations are authorised for closure.
84 per cent. of the passenger service withdrawals and 48 per cent. of the service modifications listed in the Reshaping Report have been implemented or partly implemented. 72 per cent. of the stations and halts (including those forming part of service withdrawals and modifications) have been closed.
Consent has been given to the withdrawal of 28 services and to the closure of 118 stations and halts (including those forming part of the services approved for withdrawal) not listed in the Report.
90.
asked the Minister of Transport how many stations and lines not scheduled in the Beeching Report have been closed since the last Transport Act came into force.
20 passenger services not listed in the Report have been withdrawn and 90 stations and halts (including those forming part of the service withdrawals) have been closed.
Wareham-Swanage Line (Closure)
87.
asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of representations from the Dorset County Council, Swanage Urban District Council, the Rural District Council and other associations in Swanage, a resolution passed by a public meeting attended by 400 people, a copy of which has been sent to her, and the representations made by the hon. Member for South Dorset, she will now withdraw the advance notice of closure of the Wareham and Swanage branch railway line.
Statutory notices of the discontinuance of railway passenger services under Section 54 and 56 of the Transport Act 1962, are given by the British Railways Board, and my right hon. Friend has no power to withdraw them. She will carefully consider all relevant matters before reaching a decision on the closure proposal.
Heating
95.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will issue a general directive to London Transport not to withhold heating from trains on cold nights.
No. This is a matter for management.
Polegate-Hailsham Line(Closure)
94.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will agree to the holding of a full public inquiry into the proposed closure of the Polegate-Hailsham line since the powers of the Transport Users Consultative Council are limited.
No. My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the present procedure shows that she has all the information needed to make a decision.
Southern Region
97.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will ask the appropriate transport users' consultative committee to examine the feasibility of the British Railways', Southern Region, timetable in the light of the grave inconvenience caused to passengers by the failure of the management to operate it.
101.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will instruct the Transport Users' Consultative Committee to hold a special inquiry into the management and operation of British Railways', Soutern Region, passenger services, in view of the disorganisation that has occurred since July.
105.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will refer to the Transport Users' Consultative Committee the poor standard of service provided by British Railways on their Southern Region arising from the continued late-running of trains and other failures; and if she will make a statement.
My right hon. Friend does not think it appropriate for her to refer these matters to the Transport Users' Consultative Committee. I understand that the London Area Committee are considering representations they have received on the subject, but no recommendation has been made to my right hon. Friend as a result.
98.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will direct the Inspector of Accidents to hold a special inquiry into the safety standards and maintenance of British Railways, Southern Region, with particular reference to the cumulative effect of signal failures, points failures, fractured rails, broken fishplates and broken wagon and carriage couplings.
The responsibility for the safety and efficiency of railway operations rests with the Railways Board.
However, because of the concern which has arisen following the tragic accident at Hither Green, my right hon. Friend has thought it right to inform herself about the adequacy of the measures being taken regarding maintenance in the Southern Region. In addition to such temporary measures as a reduction of the maximum speed and an increase in the patrolling of the line between Chislehurst and Hither Green, and elsewhere as considered necessary, the Board has arranged for a special examination of the track in order to see whether any special steps are necessary to improve maintenance. The most up-to-date equipment for detecting rail cracks, which has recently been acquired, has been specially assigned to, and is now in use in, the region. The Chief Inspecting Officer is satisfied that these measures are adequate.
Crewe-Glasgow Line(Electrification Cost)
100.
asked the Minister of Transport what would be the cost of completing the electrification of the main railway line between Crewe and Glasgow; and whether she will now sanction this expenditure.
The Railways Board have put no formal proposal to my right hon. Friend, but I understand that electrification (which has been deferred following devaluation) would cost over £20 million in addition to the associated re-signalling and track rationalisation.
Unused Railway Tracks
asked the Minister of Transport whether, as negotiations over the disposal of abandoned railway tracks often proceed so slowly, she will give a general direction that horses shall be provided for those charged with the supervision of the tracks, where this is rendered necessary by the growth of weeds.
This is not an appropriate subject for a general direction.
Transport
Lorry Loads (Quantity Control)
43.
asked the Minister of Transport what percentage reduction in the total number of vehicles on the roads she estimates will be achieved as the result of her proposals to limit the number of lorries on the roads by a quantity control.
I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to his supplementary Question on this subject on 15th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 411–12.]
Motor Cars (Safety Features)
49.
asked the Minister of Transport what recent progress has been made by her Department in discussing with car manufacturers the need to improve the safety factors in car design.
At my right hon. Friend's request the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders are preparing an assessment of safety features for application to the whole range of passenger cars. The Society is keeping us informed about their progress so that we can take their views into account in the development of the vehicle safety programme.
Driving Licences
70.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will take further steps to ensure that driving licences are not issued to persons with visual defects likely to impair driving ability.
We have no evidence to suggest that any change in existing requirements is necessary.
Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations,1964
71.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she is satisfied as to the effectiveness of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations. 1964; and if she will make a statement.
We are generally satisfied as to their effectiveness. But we have now completed a comprehensive review of these Regulations. As a result my right hon. Friend is proposing a series of changes and additions to improve the standard of vehicle lighting.
Road Haulage Industry
52.
asked the Minister of Transport what amount of compensation she estimates for road hauliers towards writing off vehicle fleets and ancilliary equipment under her licensing proposals.
Operators who fail to get quantity licences when their existing carrier licences expire, will not be entitled to compensation. When quantity licensing is introduced it may be necessary to call in some existing licences before their normal dates of expiry. If this happens licensing authorities will be able to take possible financial hardship to the operator into account when deciding whether to issue a quantity licence.
62.
asked the Minister of Transport what is her policy regarding the future of the private road haulier in Scotland.
I would refer the hon. Member to the recent White Paper on the Transport of Freight. We believe that road transport will continue to be an expanding industry offering increasing opportunities to the private haulier both in Scotland and alsewhere.
76.
asked the Minister of Transport what representations she has received from road hauliers concerning the proposed taxes on road hauliers which represent an increase of 6 per cent. in the cost of conveying exports to the ports; and what reply she has sent.
A number of road hauliers have written about the proposals for the new charges on road haulage. In replying we have drawn their attention to the reasons for the charges which are given in the White Paper on the Transport of Freight.
Heavy Goods Vehicle Testingstation (Dundee)
55.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will take the necessary steps to provide a heavy goods vehicle testing station in Dundee.
No. My hon. Friend explained the reasons for placing the heavy goods vehicle testing station at Perth in the Adjournment debate on 15th December. This station is intended to cover vehicles from Dundee.—[Col. 756, Vol. 876.]
Drinking And Driving
57.
asked the Minister of Transport on what statistics she based her estimates that drink played a part it nearly 30,000 accidents a year and that it leads to about 13,000 fatal and serious casualties every year; whether these statistics were drawn from British or foreign sources; and what age brackets the statistics included.
The estimates of the increased accident risk of a driver who has been drinking are based on the work of Professor Borkenstein in the United States. This involves a comparison of the blood alcohol levels of a large sample of drivers of all age groups who had been involved in accidents with those of a sample of drivers who had not been involved in, accidents but who were driving at a time and place at which accidents had occurred. The figures quoted in the question were obtained by applying these results to the latest British accident figures. They are consistent with the findings of smaller surveys carried out in this country by the Road Research Laboratory.
Licensing Authorities(Speed Criteria)
59.
asked the Minister of Transport what special factors will be taken into account when the new carrier licensing authority is examining the criteria of speed; and whether this will be strictly on a door-to-door basis.
Licensing authorities will assess the importance of speed by reference to the needs of the person for whom the goods in question are to be carried and the nature of these goods. Comparisons with rail will be on a door-to-door basis.
Transport Museum (Visitors)
73.
asked the Minister of Transport how many people have visited the Transport Museum at Clapham in each of the last three years; and what estimate she has made of the number of visitors expected annually after the removal of the museum to a new site in York.
In 1965, 125,000 people; in 1966, 153,000 people; in1967, 165,000 people (estimated). In 1966, 199,000 people visited the present York Museum and it is of course expected that the number of visitors to the new Museum will show a substantial increase over this figure.
Road Haulage Charge
60.
asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated annual revenue from the proposed road haulage charge.
About £30 million.
Transport Industry(Drivers' Hours)
83.
asked the Minister of Transport, in view of her policy that implementation of the enabling legislation on drivers' hours is to depend on increased productivity on both sides of the transport industry, how she proposes to achieve this; and how long she estimates this process will take.
The date for introducing these requirements will be a matter for discussion with representatives of employers and workers, taking into account all the factors involved. We are hoping for rapid progress.
Swanage
86.
asked the Minister of Transport what information she sought with regard to traffic densities on the Swanage—Wareham road, the degree of use of Swanage Railway Station and the degree of economic loss sustained by British Railways prior to issuing advance notice of the proposed closure of the Swanage line.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to his Questions on 5th December.—[Vol, 755, c. 271.]
Unsecured Lorry Loads(Car Windscreens)
93.
asked the Minister of Transport whether, in the interests of road safety, she will make an order that all lorries carrying sand, gravel, coal, lime or any substance which could shatter car windscreens or otherwise be dangerous to motorists should be so constructed and loaded that no leakage of the contents can occur, and be properly sheeted so that none of such substances can be dropped on the highway.
Regulation 75 of the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1966, already provides that the load carried by a motor vehicle or trailer shall at all times be so secured or in such position that danger is not likely to be caused by part of the load falling off the vehicle.Present evidence does not suggest that additional legal provisions are necessary.
Articulated Vehicles
99.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will now make an order that all articulated lorries shall fit approved safety devices to prevent jackknifing.
No. Anti-jack-knifing devices need to be tested much more extensively under a wide range of operating conditions before their efficiency on all types of articulated vehicle is established.Trials are in progress and we are seeking to extend their scope.
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will introduce legislation requiring articulated lorries to have special warning lights on cab roofs.
No. However, we are considering proposals which will require larger goods vehicles and trailers to be marked with a distinctive pattern at the back and extend the present requirements for the side marking of long vehicles.Most articulated vehicles would be covered by these proposals.
Motor Vehicles (Tyres)
102.
asked the Minister of Transport what steps he proposes to take to prevent vehicles driving on potentially dangerous tyres.
In addition to the Regulations on tyre condition laid before the House on 5th December, the proposals include tyre inspections in the annual tests and spot checks of good vehicles and private cars; a provision in the "plating" Regulations requiring goods vehicles to be fitted with tyres designed and maintained adequately to support the relevant maximum axle weights; and educational publicity.
Bus Fares (Liverpool)
104.
asked the Minister of Transport if she will refer the recent decision made by the city council to increase bus fares in the city of Liverpool to the National Board for Prices and Incomes; and if she will make a statement.
The fares of individual bus undertakings are controlled under the statutory procedures referred to in my reply of 19th December to my hon. Friend. The fares increases recently proposed by Liverpool City Council have been approved by the Traffic Commissioners, whose decision carries certain rights of appeal to my right hon. Friend.—[Vol. 756, c. 375.]
Transport Co-Ordination (Scotland)
asked the Minister of Transport if she will introduce a coordinated transport system for the North-East of Scotland.
Not in isolation, but the existing arrangements for co-ordination of transport in Scotland as a whole will be strengthened by the provisions included in the Transport Bill now before the House.
Victoria Line
asked the Minister of Transport whether she will report on the progress made with the Victoria Line, with particular reference to sections between Metropolitan Essex and Central London.
I understand from the London Transport Board that all tunnelling work between Victoria and Waltham-stow Central has been completed. Installing the track and equipping the stations are proceeding satisfactorily. The Board intend to open the line between the autumn of 1968 and the spring of 1969 in three stages, beginning at the Walthamstow end.
Nationalised Transport Authorities(Petrol Supplies)
asked the Minister of Transport where the Government intends buying the petrol for the petrol stations run by the nationalised transport authorities and their subsidiaries.
This will be a matter for the authorities and subsidiaries themselves and not for the Government.
Motorists (Safety Certificates)
asked the Minister of Transport if, in order to encourage professional motorists who continue to have safe driving and accident free records, and as a measure to encourage road safety, she will consider the issue to them by her Department of an appropriate certificate for a 10, 15, or 20 years' record.
No. We do not think this would have any significant effect on road safety.
Car Testing Scheme (Garagestandards)
asked the Minister of Transport if she has completed the check on standards maintained by garages operating the car testing scheme mentioned in the White Paper Road Safety —a Fresh Approach; what were the results; and if she will make a statement.
The special random sample check involving some 500 garages has been completed. Only 40 per cent. of the tests were carried out fully satisfactorily while 15 per cent. were completely unsatisfactory.I am very seriously concerned at these results. It is essential for road safety that all owners should keen their vehicles properly maintained and mechanically safe. When they take them to a garage for testing they must be assured that the job will always be done completely and efficiently to the standards that are clearly laid down. I am therefore taking immediate steps to enforce the standards of the testing scheme.As from today no new application to join the scheme will be considered for a period of at least one year. This will allow the existing backlog of applications to be cleared and enforcement staff to concentrate on the standards of garages now in the scheme by regular inspection checks and incognito visits. The authorisation of any garage, or individual tester, failing fully to meet responsibilities under the scheme will be withdrawn immediately; applications for reinstatement of a garage's authorisation will not normally be considered until 5 years have elapsed. The minimum requirements for equipment, facilities and staff for garages in the scheme will be raised; garages failing to meet the higher standards must leave the scheme. A garage's responsibilities under the testing scheme will be written into a contract.These measures have been discussed with the associations representative of the garade trade and have their full support. I want to make it quite clear that I will take the strongest possible action against any garage that fails to do its job properly. I hope they will all co-operate to make the existing scheme a success. But I am also considering alternative plans that I could adopt if further checks should show that garages continue to operate the existing scheme unsatisfactorily.
Lorries (Abnormal Loads Charges)
53.
asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the fact that the proposal to penalise heavy loads up to an amount of £15 a mile will have a detrimental effect on developing industry in the North-East of England, if she will give further consideration to this proposal.
Slow-moving heavy lorries cause congestion and impose costs on other road users including industrial traffic, in all parts of the country. We see no reason to exempt particular areas from the charges.
54.
asked the Minister of Transport what estimates have been made by her Department of the proportion of the mileage charge for the carriage of abnormal loads which will fall upon journeys involving the carriage of goods for exports; and what proportion will fall upon journeys to and from development areas.
The abnormal loads charges reflect the costs of congestion caused by large slow-moving lorries. These costs arise in all parts of the country. Separate figures of estimated revenues from particular kinds of journey are not available.
65.
asked the Minister of Transport what is the expected revenue per annum of the proposed abnormal loads charge.
About £3 million.
Ports
Investment Programme
46.
asked the Minister of Transport what cuts are expected in the port investment programme following the devaluation of sterling.
Investment is expected to be £3 million less in 1968 and f24 million less in 1969, out of an estimated total of £95 million.
Board Of Trade
Industrial Development Certificates
107.
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many industrial development certificates have been refused in the Yorkshire and Humberside region during the past two years.
One.
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will ensure that locally based industries in the City of Norwich, wishing to expand within the area, receive prompt granting of industrial development certificates in order to ease considerable local unemployment problems.
Subject to the needs of the Development Areas, applications for industrial development certificates for expansion in Norwich by local firms are already treated sympathetically, and I am not aware of any delay in dealing with them.
Imports From New Zealand
108.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the total value of imports from New Zealand; and what evidence he has of price reductions on these products as a result of devaluation.
Imports from New Zealand in 1966 were worth £187 million. It is too early to say what the consequences of devaluation will be for the prices of the principal products imported from New Zealand.
Advance Factories
109.
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he has secured a tenant for the advance factory in Dundee which is due to be completed this month, and for his Department's two other factories in Dundee which are being renovated, in order to provide employment for those who are presently unemployed in this city.
The advance factory has been allocated. I cannot yet disclose the name of the firm concerned. We are doing our best to find tenants for the two factories at present under repair.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a further statement on the advance factory in Sunderland at present unoccupied.
The advance factory of 50,000 sq. ft. in Sunderland has not yet been taken. We will continue to make every effort to find a suitable occupant.
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many Government-owned factories in the development areas are now empty; and what was the date of completion of each of these factories.
The following are the numbers of advance factories authorised in programmes announced since October, 1964, which have been completed but have not yet been occupied:
England—7 factories completed in August and November, 1966; February, March, July, August and September, 1967.
Scotland—13 factories completed in September and November, 1966; February, March, July, (4), October (2) and November (3), 1967.
Wales—12 factories completed in January, March, June, July (2), August, September, and November (5), 1967.
In addition, there are 29 factories on Board of Trade industrial estates completed a t various times which have previously been occupied but are now vacant; 14 of these are in England, 12 in Scotland, and 3 in Wales.
Aluminium Smelters (Northernregion)
110.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made towards a decision to site an aluminium smelter works in the Northern Region.
The Board of Trade have received proposals from a number of companies interested in establishing aluminium smelters in various locations in development areas. These proposals are being urgently evaluated.
Investment Grants
111.
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the White Paper on Investment Incentives, Command Paper No. 2874, still represents Government policy as regards financial incentives in industry; and if he will make a statement.
Yes. The main purposes of the investment grants scheme are to give priority to increasing investment in those sectors of the economy which can do most to strengthen the balance of payments and to encourage investment in the development areas. Those objectives remain of primary importance at the present time.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what estimate he has made of the amount of investment grants to be paid out in 1967.
£200 million.
Trade And Development(Un Conference)
112.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what is his policy with regard to the forthcoming United Nations Commission on Trade and Development Conference on trade and development; and if he will make a statement.
The policy of Her Majesty's Government will be to do whatever we can, in concert with other developed countries, to promote the development and trade of the developing countries as far as possible, having regard to her own economic circumstances.
Hotel Industry (Loans)
113.
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many of the 12 loans which have been offered to the hotel industry to a total value of £.1·75 million have now been accepted; and what objections have been raised by the hotel enterprises concerned to the conditions attached.
Six offers have now been accepted, and two rejected. I cannot give any information about the terms and conditions offered to individual applicants or their comments on these.
Employment (Northern Region)
114.
asked the President of the Board of Trade, in view of the number of vacancies remaining unfilled in the Northern Region at November, 1967, compared with other regions in Great Britain, together with the relatively high figures of unemployment, if he will make a statement on the further steps being taken by the Government to bring employment opportunities to the Northern Region.
New industrial estates are being established at Cramlington, Brandon and Workington, and consideration is being given to acquiring further land for development in Sunderland. The development area incentives which are available throughout the Northern Region, already higher than ever before, have been further reinforced by retaining the S.E.T. premium for manufacturing industry in development areas. All these measures will encourage the creation of further employment opportunities.
Anglo-Portuguese Trade
115.
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that imports of knitwear from Portugal for the first eight months it 1967 were 160 per cent. more than for the whole of 1966; and since Portuguese exports to Great Britain are free of all restrictions and duties, whereas British exports to Portugal are subject to a 60 per cent. duty, if he will now take steps to achieve a balance between these imports and exports.
As regards imports, I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave him on 22nd November.The E.F.T.A. Convention provides for the gradual elimination of Portuguese duties, which vary widely, with accelerated reductions for products of which there are substantial exports. This should lead to increased opportunities for our exports of knitwear to Portugal. It is also relevant that Portugal did not devalue when the pound was recently devalued.—[Vol. 754, c. 1308–9]
Industrial Expansion (Scotland)
118.
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many firm commitments have been made by industrialists to develop in central West Fife, and Scotland as a whole, respectively, in the last 12 months; and how many male jobs he estimates will be likely to accrue.
Of the 15 industrial development certificates issued for central West Fife since 1st December, 1966, one is unlikely to be proceeded with and 3 are for advance factories not yet allocated. The remainder are expected to provide 1,560 jobs for men. In Scotland as a whole 253 industrial development certificates have been issued in the same period for projects estimated to provide 10,900 jobs for men.
Charter Holidays (Charges)
119.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what changes he proposes to make in the permitted level of charges for inclusive tour charter holidays for the summer of 1968, arising out of the recent increase in charges for scheduled air services caused by devaluation, and arising out of Provision I of air service licences.
I am considering this matter and expect to announce my decision in the near future.
Exports (Price Increases)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will take steps to prevent rises in export prices which would lose the advantage of devaluation.
Export prices are essentially a matter for the commercial judgment of exporters. They will wish in their own, and the country's interest, to secure the largest earnings from sales abroad consistent with building up their volume of sales in relation to their capacity to supply and deliver goods as well as to their competitive position, their goodwill and other relevant factors in overseas markets.
Leigh, Atherton And Tyldesley(Alternative Employment)
asked the President of the Board of Trade what efforts are now being made by his Department to provide alternative employment in the Leigh, Atherton and Tyldesley area in view of the decision to close Mosley Common Colliery at which 2,000 men are employed, on 10th February.
The Board of Trade is operating a liberal industrial development certificate policy in the Leigh, Atherton and Tyldesley area. Applications for expansions by firms already in the area are viewed sympathetically as are applications from new firms with projects suited to the needs and resources of the area.
Dumping
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will describe the methods used for investigating whether or not dumping has taken or is taking place; what action is taken against firms or countries proved to be responsible for dumping; and if he will make a statement;(2) if, in view of the widespread concern on this matter, he will take steps to provide more effective penalties for those responsible for the dumping of goods in this country; and if he will make a statement;(3) by what date it is Her Majesty's Government's policy to seek to have enacted the anti-dumping legislation; if he will publish in advance an outline of the main provisions of the Bill; and if he will make a statement.
When an application is made under the Customs Duties (Dumping and Subsidies) Act, 1957, the applicants are asked to provide prima facie evidence that dumping is taking place and the Board's officials then investigate in detail the prices of the suppliers' shipments to this market, their domestic prices and other relevant factors in order to establish whether dumping is occurring within the meaning of the Act and the margin of dumping. If necessary, they visit the suppliers overseas so as to examine their records on the spot. I have sent my hon. Friend a copy of the notes which the Board issue to applicants and which give further particulars.The Act does not make dumping an offence or provide for penalties but in accordance with Article VI of the G.A.T.T. it enables the Board to impose anti-dumping duties when they are satisfied that the dumping is causing or threatening material injury to a British industry and that it is in the national interest to do so. Duties may be imposed by Order on imports from the firms concerned up to the margin of dumping that has been found to exist. The Board may, instead of imposing an anti-dumping duty, accept satisfactory undertakings by the overseas suppliers that dumping will stop. I am satisfied that these procedures provide effective remedies.The main provision of the Bill to amend the Act of 1957 will give the Board powers to take provisional antidumping action in appropriate cases where a preliminary examination shows sufficient evidence of dumping and of material injury, even though the necessary full investigation has not been completed. Another provision will give the Board additional powers to determine comparable domestic prices for the purpose of dumping investigations in the case of goods from countries with a state-trading economy. It is proposed to introduce the Bill as soon as possible in the present Session.These powers and procedures are fully in accord with Article VI of the G.A.T.T. and with the Anti-Dumping Code agreed in the Kennedy Round, which provide valuable safeguards for our own exporters against unjustified anti-dumping action by other countries.
Associated Electrical Industries(Exports)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware of Associated Electrical Industries' excellent export record and in considering the merger what assurance he has received from General Electric Company that this high export level will be maintained; and if he will make a statement.
It would have been impracticable to seek an assurance about the maintenance of export sales at any particular level. Nevertheless, I am confident that the merger will not result in any reduction in the overseas selling effort which has gained for both G.E.C. and A.E.I. the recognition of the Queen's Award to Industry.
Contracts (Contingency Increases)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will direct public and semi-public organisations for which he is responsible not to accept excessive contingency or alleged contingency increases in medium- or long-term contracts.
I do not know of any such excessive increases. If my hon. Friend has particular cases in mind I am prepared to look into them though, in the case of the nationalised industries, it is not Government policy to intervene in detailed commercial matters of this sort.
Dock Strikes (Effects)
asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) what percentage of the published trade deficit of November, 1967 he estimates is to be attributed to the dock strikes during that month;(2) what estimate he has made of the value of perishable goods lost to the consumer during the month of November, 1967 as a consequence of the dock strike at London and Liverpool docks, respectively;(3) what estimate he has made of the loss incurred by manufacturers during the month of November, 1967 as a consequence of being unable to deliver on time exports, due to strikes at London and Liverpool docks;
(4) what estimate he has made of the loss to British importers and shippers in consequence of the strikes at London and Liverpool docks, during the month of November, 1967.
It is not possible to put an exact figure on the several effects of the strikes of dockers at London and Liverpool. But there is no doubt that the strikes were a major factor in the large trade deficit recorded for November and that on account of the strikes significant losses have been suffered by consumers, manufacturers, importers and shippers. I am sending my hon. Friend a copy of the Press notice which was issued with the November trade figures and which describes the various ways in which they were affected by the strikes.
Welsh Industrial Estates(Rent Increases)
asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will give details of the increases in rent in factories on Welsh industrial estates and/or individual factories built by Government finance; and if he will give the average percentage of increase.
Rent increases affecting Board of Trade factories in Wales in 1967 have ranged from 8d. to 3s. 7d. per sq. ft. The average percentage increase is 108 per cent.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what representations he has received from firms which will have to close down because of the increases in rents announced recently on Welsh industrial trading estates; and if he will make a statement.
No firms on Board of Trade industrial estates in Wales have informed me that they will have to close down because of an increase in rent.
Welsh Industrial Estates Corporation(Profit)
asked the President of he Board of Trade what was the profit made by the Welsh Industrial Estates Corporation for the year 1967; and what is the estimated profit for 1968.
The operating surplus of the Welsh Industrial Estates Corporation for the year to 31st March, 1967, as shown by the audited accounts, was £584,175 but, after allowing for interest on capital employed and administration expenses, this was converted to an estimated deficit of £123,226. I am unable to forecast the estimated surplus or deficit for the year ended 31st March, 1968.
Enemy Property Branch (Staff)
asked the President of the Board of Trade how many people are employed in the Enemy Property Branch of his Department; what is the nature of their duties; and if he will state the total annual cost of this branch.
The staff of the Enemy Property Branch is 40. Their duties concern the administration of enemy property under the Trading with the Enemy Act, 1939, the Orders made under the Treaties of Peace (Italy, Roumania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Finland) Act, 1947, and under the Japanese Treaty of Peace Act. 1951. The Custodian of Enemy Property for England, Scotland and Northern Ireland also carries out his duties within this Branch.The total annual cost of the Branch for the financial year 1967–68 is estimated at £76,057.
F & W Ingham (Fare Increases)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that F. & W. Ingham are increasing certain charges, details of which have been sent to him, for air fares for winter holidays booked before devaluation in contravention of Government policy; and if he will refer the matter to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.
I am aware that in some cases the charge for winter holidays has increased to meet increased costs overseas. Many of them were already priced above the minimum charge prescribed in the air service licence. In providing that the minimum price should be at the pre-devaluation level the Board of Trade did not preclude a travel agent from charging more to meet increased costs. Since such increases relate to expenditure overseas, it is not appropriate to refer them to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.
Electric Guitars
asked the President of the Board of Trade what is his estimate of the amount of foreign currency to be saved by manufacturing electric guitars in this country instead of importing them.
I regret that the information is not available: electric guitars are not separately distinguished in the statistics of overseas trade or of production.
Companies Acts (Banking Anddiscount Companies)
asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a statement on the exemption of banking and discount companies from some of the accounting provisions of the Companies Acts.
Certain banking and discount companies are exempted under paragraph 23 of the Eighth Schedule to the Companies Act, 1948, from many of the requirements of that Schedule as amended by the Companies Act, 1967, as to disclosure of information in accounts. This exemption was reviewed by the Jenkins Committee in their report.A majority of the Committee accepted the case for continuing the exemption on the grounds that banks were subject to very large fluctuations in the value of their investments and to periodical losses on lending which could be out of all proportion to the profits of a single year and that full disclosure of these fluctuations and losses in the annual accounts might lead to loss of confidence on the part of depositors and the general public.A minority of the Jenkins Committee were not satisfied that many of the exemptions were necessary except, perhaps, for banks operating mainly overseas. The minority suggested that the banks and discount houses should be invited to submit their full accounts for the last ten or twenty years to the Board of Trade to show how much they had used the exemptions; in the light of these accounts the Board could decide how far the exemptions needed to be continued.H.M. Government decided to adopt this suggestion and with the cooperation of the various banking associations the accounts of selected members of each association were examined by Government accountants. The whole question of the exemptions was then thoroughly discussed with interested banks and with the Bank of England.H.M. Government have come to the conclusion that an overriding consideration must be the avoidance of steps which run the risk of damaging the banking system or of weakening monetary controls. They are fully aware that our banking and monetary systems depend for their efficiency on close co-operation between the authorities and the banks. They also recognise that the competitive position of our banks in relation to banks in other countries needs to be safeguarded.H.M. Government, therefore, believe that it is necessary to move with care on the question of the exemptions. They do not think that they are yet in a position, in the light of the evidence so far available, to take a decision in favour of removing the exemptions. More time is needed to study the full accounts of the banks over a period in order to assess the consequences of full public disclosure.H.M. Government are, however, requiring, as a condition of continued exemption, those exempt banks and discount companies which are incorporated in Great Britain to provide the Bank of England with full information about their profits and inner reserves. The principal banking associations have been informed of the intention of H.M. Government and have raised no objection to the arrangements proposed.The information supplied to the Bank of England will be passed to the Board of Trade so that H.M. Government will be able to review after a period of time the need for continuing the exemptions in the light of up-to-date information on movements in the banks' full profits and reserves. The information supplied will be treated as strictly confidential.
Shipping
Queen Mary "(Sale Price)
116.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the sum in dollars received from the sale of the "Queen Mary".
I understand that Cunard announced at the time of the sale that the price received was $3,450,000.
Aviation
British European Airways(Trident Aircraft)
117.
asked the President of the Board of Trade what action he intends to take to ensure the extension of British European Airways' Trident fleet following devaluation.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement my right hon. Friend made in the House on 15th December, 1967.—[Vol. 756, c. 779–84.]
Agriculture, Fisheriesand Food
Barley Prices
120.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware that barley prices have been depressed in the home market in recent months; to what extent this is due to imports of maize at low prices; and whether he will make a statement.
Prior to devaluation, prices of home grown barley were running at about the same level as last year. Since devaluation prices have risen by something over £1 per ton. It is impossible to isolate the effects of imports on domestic market prices.
Agricultural And Horticulturalindustries (Road Haulage Charges)
121 and 122.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on the production of milk;(2) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on the production of cereals;(3) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on horticulture;(4) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on beef production;
(5) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on the production of mutton and lamb;
(6) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on pigmeat production;
(7) what estimate he has made of the total cost of the proposed new transport taxation on cattle and pig feed meals.
I cannot yet say how the proposed new charges on road haulage will affect agricultural and horticultural costs.
National Association Of Landsettlement Association Tenants
123.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has had from the National Association of Land Settlement Association Tenants on the Wise Report and other matters within his responsibility; and why he committed the delegates to such strict confidence that they are unable to make a proper report to their home branches.
The National Association of Land Settlement Association Tenants has held two meetings with my officials, and has produced a written memorandum of comment on the Wise Committee's Report. I myself met tenants from each of the estates last week, in order to exchange views with them on the action to be taken. Such discussions must naturally take place on a confidential basis, particularly as I have not yet reached any final conclusions. While I realise that the tenants are anxious to know where they stand as soon as possible, this is a matter of such importance to the future of the L.S.A. and the tenants that I do not consider it would be wise to reach ill-considered conclusions. I hope to make an announcement early in the New Year.
Foot-And-Mouth Disease
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, in view of the fact that the killing power of his Department's approved disinfectants is instantaneous on bacteria, whether he will make a statement on the evidence in his possession as to the killing power of the approved disinfectants on the strain 0.1 virus under farm conditions.
Since it would not be practicable to experiment with foot-and-mouth disease virus on farms, I have no direct evidence of the kind mentioned in the question. Experiments carried out at Pirbright show the relative effectiveness of disinfectants in laboratory conditions. This depends both on the disinfectant, and on the length of time the virus is exposed to it.The disinfectant which is used by my officers on premises which are known to have been contaminated by virus is 4 per cent. sodium carbonate solution. Other general purpose disinfectants are used whore it is considered that sodium carbonate might cause damage to certain materials.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what evidence he has that the spread of foot-and-mouth virus has been windborne; and if ha will make a statement;(2) what studies he has asked the Meteorological Office to make during the present foot-and-mouth epidemic on the possibility of the spreading of the disease being due to climatological factors; and what action he has taken as a result of these studies.
A team of scientific experts are at the moment studying the present epidemic and the points mentioned by my hon. Friend are being included in their survey. The Meteorological Office has given us every assistance in this study. But it is too early to make any definite statement.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in view of the fact that the foot-and-mouth epidemic has exceeded in extent and duration anything envisaged in the Gowers Report and has resulted in a large gap between the market value of an animal at the time of slaughter and the same animal's replacement value at the end of the epidemic, whether he will now direct that compensation for slaughter should be at the replacement value.
Under present legislation, compensation can be paid only on the basis of valuation at the time of slaughter, but I am enquiring into the extent of the increase in valuations during the present epidemic and will discuss the matter with the National Farmers' Union.
Wet Fish Marketing Centre(South-West)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will consider establishing a new marketing centre for wet fish to serve South-West England.
No. I have no evidence that one is required.
Fishing Techniques(Research And Development)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what he is doing to improve methods of fishing.
My Department pays half the cost of the White Fish Authority's research and development work on fishing techniques. It also finances the Authority's grants for improvements to the efficiency of fishing vessels.
Fishing Fleets (Concentration Of Gear)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to experiment in concentrating expensive gear into one ship in a fishing fleet, to provide apparatus for the guidance of neighbouring vessels.
This and other aspects of fleet operation are being studied by the Industrial Development Unit of the White Fish Authority with financial assistance from my Department.
Fish Farming
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what he is doing to encourage fish farming.
Basic research is being carried on by our Fisheries Laboratories and development work is being done by the White Fish Authority with assistance from my Department.
Agricultural Industry (Expansion)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, what is his estimate of the import saving that can be achieved by British agriculture; and by when.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Fermanagh and South Tyrone (Lord Hamilton) on 6th December.—[Vol. 755, c. 337.]
Retail Meat Prices (Scotland)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the average price per pound of beef of similar description in the retail shops of Scotland and England, respectively; and what is the reason for the relatively higher price in Scotland.
I regret that there are no official statistics on which a reply could be based; it would in any case be extremely difficult to make meaningful comparisons of average retail beef prices in England and Scotland. Allowance has to be made for differences in cutting practice not themselves uniform in either country, and there are considerable variations between individual shops in quality and trimming, in the local demand for and therefore the relative prices of various cuts, and in the credit and delivery services provided.I should, however, expect retail prices in Scotland to be affected by the generally higher level of fat cattle prices. Recently, for example, the average for certified cattle has been some 5 per cent. higher in Scotland than in England and Wales.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if his attention has been drawn to the increased meat prices in Scotland; and if he will inquire into the reasons for such increases.
There have been substantial increases since October in fatstock and wholesale prices, partly seasonal and partly because foot-and-mouth disease restrictions have made distribution of home-killed meat more difficult and expensive. Retail prices have been affected to the extent that individual traders, whether in Scotland or elsewhere, have not found it possible to absorb those additional costs.
Abattoirs (Grants And Loans)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many private traders and local authorities in England and Wales have received grants or loans in each of the last five years towards the erection of new abattoirs, the installation of new equipment in abattoirs and the reconstruction of existing abattoirs, respectively; what was the total amount of such grants and loans in each category; and what was the largest single grant in each year.
I have made no such grants or loans. Any question of grants or loans under the Local Employment Acts, 1960–66, or of investment grants under the Industrial Development Act, 1966, would be for my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.
Scotland
Motor Rallies Advisory Committee(Treasure Hunts)
124.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will announce the result of his consultations with the Motor Rallies Advisory Committee in relation to the conduct of car treasure hunts organised in aid of local charities.
I have accepted the Committee's advice against relaxing the controls, particularly as there has been only one summer's experience of the working of the Regulations, but I will keep the Regulations under review.
Court Fines
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will establish a working group to estimate the amount of fines imposed by the Scottish courts, the amount which is paid promptly, and the number of fines which remain outstanding; and if he will make a statement.
The preparation of such an estimate would involve additional work for the courts, and I do not think that it would assist them in ensuring the appropriate enforcement of the individaul fine.
Abattoirs (Grants And Loans)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many private traders and local authorities in Scotland have received grants or loans in each of the last five years towards the erection of new abattoirs, the installation of new equipment in abattoirs and the reconstruction of existing abattoirs; what was the total amount of such grants and loans in each category; and what was the largest single grant in each year.
Grants and loans in respect of the erection of new slaughterhouses and the installation of equipment and reconstruction of existing slaughterhouses provided by private traders are administered by the Board of Trade; but my right lion. Friend is unable to provide the information in the form requested without disproportionate effort and expense. There is no specific statutory provision for the making of loans to local authorities for the erection, equipping or reconstruction of slaughterhouses; but borrowing consent has been given by my Department to 34 local authorities under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1947 as follows:—
| Year | New Slaughter-houses | New Equipment | Reconstruction |
| £ | £ | £ | |
| 1963 | 191,250 | 18,098 | 100,527 |
| 1964 | 264,270 | 5,380 | 138,770 |
| 1965 | 358,350 | 8,399 | 19,966 |
| 1966 | — | 5,584 | 26,000 |
| 1967 (to date) | 723,700 | 41,000 | 173,425 |
| Total | 1,537,570 | 78,461 | 458,688 |
Housing (Lack Of Internal Amenities)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the number of houses without bathrooms, hot water supplies, or internal lavatory systems; and what proportion each is of the total stock of houses.
The Summary Tables for the 1966 Sample Census include the following figures:—
| Number of households lacking exclusive use of a fixed bath | 340,790 |
| Number of households lacking exclusive use of a hot water tap | 215,680 |
| Number of households lacking exclusive use of an internal water closet | 200,590 |
Renal Transplantation Centres
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the establishment of additional renal transplantation centres.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer which my right hon. Friend, the Minister of Health gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton, West (Mr. Oakes) on my behalf and his own on 14th December.— [Vol 756, c. 231.]
Further Education
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he hopes to issue his forthcoming memorandum on Scottish Further Education for the guidance of local authorities; and if he will make a statement.
I assume my hon. Friend has in mind the Rodger Committee's Report "Conditions of Service of Teachers in further Education in Scotland". This is a complex matter and further consultation with the interests concerned will be necessary before I issue a memorandum to education authorities on those aspects of the Report in which I have a direct interest.
Industrial Development (Landacquisition)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if his attention has been drawn to the difficulties experienced by certain local authorities in Scotland on acquiring land for industrial development; and what legislative steps he intends to take to eliminate the power of private landowners to stultify industrial growth.
Local planning authorities already have statutory powers to acquire land compulsorily in order to secure its use in accordance with their development plans.
Public Expenditure (Cuts)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give an assurance that there will be no cuts in the housing, health or education services in the next 12 months.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement on 18th December of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister that in the current examination of public spending programmes no area of expenditure can be regarded as sacrosanct.—[Vol. 756, c. 921–4.]
Ministry Of Defence
Service Pensions (Devaluation)
125.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will take special action to compensate service pensioners who are, for health reasons, resident abroad and are victims of devaluation.
No.
Fishery Protection Ships(North Sea)
126.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many new fishery protection vessels of the Royal Navy are allocated to protect Aberdeen North Sea fishing fleets; with what new scientific aids each new ship is equipped; and on how many occasions each ship has been in operation, and where, during the last six months.
The six ships of the Fishery Protection Squadron are operational minesweepers of the Royal Navy. As such they are fitted with the most up to date equipment to carry out their dual rôles of minesweepers and fishery protection ships. In the latter rôle, they are able to give the maximum protection to all our fishermen in the North Sea and to enforce the United Kingdom fishery limits. They are not permanently allocated to Aberdeen or any other specific fishing fleet.
Bahrein And Sharjah(Defence Expenditure)
127.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the total estimated expenditure of Her Majesty's Government in Bahrein and Sharjah in 1967–68, 1968–69, 1969–70 and 1970–71, including pay of Servicemen stationed there, military installations and other capital works and all other items.
Local defence expenditure has been running at about £12 million a year. I am not prepared to forecast figures for future years.
Royal Navy (Shipbuildingorders)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the value of naval contracts placed in Great Britain by Her Majesty's Government in 1967; what part of the total relates to Clyde orders; and if he will give the comparable figures for 1965. 1963, 1961 and 1959, respectively.
The value of naval orders placed in Great Britain with the shipbuilding industry in 1967 (to date) is £30·1 million of which £6·6 million relates to Clyde orders. Comparable figures for 1959, 1961, 1963 and 1965 are:
| 1959 | 1961 | 1963 | 1965 | |
| Total great Britain | 3·2 | 23·1 | 144·7 | 42·6 |
| Clyde only | 3·0 | 9·9 | 10·8 | 14·3 |
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give the figurres relating to the value of Royal Navy construction contracts placed in Scotland and in the United Kingdom as a whole over the ten years to 1966–67.
Orders to the value of £395 million were placed with the Shipbuilding industry during the period 1957–58 to 1966–67 of which £85 million was awarded to Scottish shipyards. These figures include orders for Commonwealth and foreign Navies placed on a Government-to-Government basis.
Defence Contracts (Scotland)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will ensure that a fixed proportion of defence contracts, based on the ratio of Scotland's population to that of England, is placed with Scottish companies or for manufacture or service in Scotland in each year.
No.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give the figures of Scotland's share of defence contracts and defence work services for the ten years to 1966–67 and the comparative figures for defence contracts and defence work services placed or incurred in England during the same period.
Comprehensive figures are available neither right back to 1957–58 nor exactly in the form requested.
Between 1961–62 and 1966–67 inclusive the value of defence contracts placed in Scotland was £4,403 million compared with £4,403 million in England, Wales and Northern Ireland together. Between 1963–64 and 1966–67 inclusive, the value of defence work services carried out in Scotland was £53 million compared with £338 million in England. In 1962–63, the value of defence work services carried out in Scotland was £9½ million compared with £74½ million for England, Wales and Northern Ireland together.
Scottish Contracts Office
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will set up a Scottish contracts office so that negotiations with Scottish firms can be carried out in Scotland rather than England.
No.
Royal Dockyards (Pay Structure)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement opt his future plans for the pay structure in Her Majesty's dockyards, with special reference to differentials, incentive schemes and productivity agreements.
The future pay structure in the Royal Dockyards is dependent upon the outcome of negotiations with the Trades Unions, but it continues to be the aim to increase efficiency through appropriate differentials, incentive schemes and productivity bargains in accordance with the recommendations of the National Board for Prices and Incomes.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is now the difference in take-home pay between that of all categories of industrial civil servants in Her Majesty's dockyards and that of employees in those sections of civilian industry on which the dockyard pay structure is at present based.
Statistics are not available in a form which would enable a valid comparison of current take-home pay to be made. However, the new wages structure in Her Majesty's Dockyards which becomes fully operative on 1st January, 1968, was calculated on a basis of equivalence with civilian industry, adjusted for necessary differences such as superannuation benefits.
Military Personnel (Civil Prisonsaccommodation)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much accommodation will be required in civil prisons for military personnel in consequence of Statutory Instrument No. 1527 of 1967.
Sufficient for some 84 prisoners at any one time.
Leander Class Frigates
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the estimated cost and proposed number of Leander class frigates.
Twenty-four Leanders have been ordered up to now. We are unlikely to build many more, but the precise number will depend, among other things on how quickly we can introduce the new class of frigates referred to in the July White Paper. Recently completed Leanders have cost between £5 million and £6 million.
Canberra Aircraft
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has to fill the rôle at present performed by the Canberra aircraft.
The Canberra is due to be withdrawn by the end of 1970. Our plans provide for the purchase of F111K aircraft, supplemented by the transfer of V bombers from the strategic nuclear rôle when Polaris enters service.
Arms Sales
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will list all those countries to which the United Kingdom has supplied arms since 1st November, 1964.
No. It is not the practice to disclose this type of information.
Malta (Defence Spending)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much it is necessary to spend in the United Kingdom in order to save each £100 of British defence spending in Malta.
So far as the present run-down is concerned an offsetting cost of £130 is necessary for each £100 of annual budgetary saving. Any rundown in excess of that presently planned in Malta would greatly increase the proportion of capital cost to saving owing to the need to build new married quarters and barracks.
Meteorological Office
asked the Secretary of State for Defence when computers were introduced in the Meteorological Office to aid in the production of weather forecasts; and what was the cost.
The Meteorological Office used a Ferranti Mercury computer to produce forecast pressure charts on a routine basis from January, 1959 to September, 1964. These charts were used primarily for research purposes, but subject to research needs they were made available for the guidance of operational forecasters. This computer was replaced by an English Electric KDF 9, which has been producing forecast pressure charts for regular operational use since July, 1965, initially on an experimental basis. It is also used for other purposes e.g. atmospheric research, long-range forecasting and climatological studies. The capital costs of these computers and certain ancillary equipment were £90,000 and £475,000 respectively.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what estimates he has made of the effect of the introduction of computers has had on the accuracy of weather forecasts in the Meteorological Office; and what are the figures.
Computed charts have not yet replaced for all purposes those produced by traditional methods, and it is too early to form a proper judgment of their effect on the accuracy of weather forecasts.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many special warnings have been transmitted to the general public by radio and television month by month over the preceding year issued by the Meteorological Office at nonscheduled times.
With the cooperation of the broadcasting authorities warnings of actual or imminent weather conditions which might endanger life or cause considerable inconvenience to a large number of people are broadcast on Radio 2, B.B.C. 1 and Independent Television, as appropriate, in addition to the normal weather forecasts. The number of such warnings broadcast each month this year was:
| January | 1 |
| February | 0 |
| March | 0 |
| April | 0 |
| May | 2 |
| June | 2 |
| July | 0 |
| August | 2 |
| September | 5 |
| October | 6 |
| November | 10 |
| December (until 18th) | 6 |
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what action he has taken to improve abnormal hours allowance payable to scientific assistants in the Meteorological Office engaged in roster work.
Discussions have been taking place with the staff association concerned.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the shortfall in the assistant scientific grade in the Meteorological Office at this date.
The shortage of scientific assistants at 1st December, 1967, was 165 or about 13 per cent. of the establishment.
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the overall accuracy of forecasts issued in the evening and morning over the period year by year since the present system of checking forecasts was started in the Meteorological Office.
The figures are:
| 1755 forecast per cent. | 0755 forecast per cent. | |
| 1963–64 | 76 | 83 |
| 1964–65 | 77 | 84 |
| 1965–66 | 77 | 84 |
| 1966–67 | 77 | 85 |
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will supply the hon. Member for Bristol, North-West with a copy of the staff instruction issued to staff engaged in checking forecasts for accuracy.
Yes. I will write to the hon. Member.
Royal Dockyard, Portsmouth
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how the employment figures for Portsmouth Dockyard at 1st October, 1964, 1st April, 1966 and 1st October. 1967 are made up of men and apprentices, respectively.
| Men | Apprentices | |
| 1st October, 1964 | 12,908 | 1,654 |
| 1st April, 1966 | 12,220 | 1,499 |
| 1st October, 1967 | 12,342 | 1,268 |
Malaysia And Singapore(Defence Obligations)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now publish the precise air defence commitments made to Malaysia and Singapore up to 1975.
Our defence obligations to Malaysia are published in the Anglo-Malayan Defence Agreement of 1957 (Cmnd. 2637), as amended by the Malaysia Agreement 1963 (Cmnd. 2094). They do not include any precise commitments on Air Defence. We have no formal Agreement with Singapore.
Housing
Housing Revenue Account(Rate Contributions)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of all the local authorities in England and Wales who make a contribution from the general rate fund to the housing revenue account; and what is the amount given in each case expressed as a percentage of the general rate fund and as a percentage of the housing revenue account.
This information is not readily available from official sources and I do not think it would be justifiable to incur the considerable cost of producing it. Much of the information requested is already available in the Housing Statistics published by the Institute of Municipal Treasurers and Accountants.
Sunderland
128.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he is taking, in view of the housing shortage, to promote the increase in the number of houses to be built in Sunderland.
As a priority authority, Sunderland may build as many houses as they need, and the generous subsidies provided by the Housing Subsidies Act 1967 should encourage them to do so.
Under-Occupation
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what are the numbers of households under-occupied within the definition of more rooms than persons per household, in Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Bristol. Nottingham, Hull, Bradford, Leicester, Stoke-on-Trent and Wolverhampton.
The following estimates of the number of households with more rooms than persons in April 1966, in the specified places, are based on results from the 1966 Sample Census. I do not regard this as a satisfactory test of under-occupation.
| Number of households with more rooms than persons | |
| Birmingham C.B. | 267,000 |
| Liverpool C.B. | 162,000 |
| Manchester C.B. | 158,000 |
| Leeds C.B. | 145,000 |
| Sheffield C.B. | 144,000 |
| Bristol C.B. | 123,000 |
| Nottingham C.B. | 88,000 |
| Hull C.B. | 78,000 |
| Bradford C.B. | 81,000 |
| Leicester C.B. | 81,000 |
| Stoke-on-Trent C.B. | 75,000 |
| Wolverhampton C.B. | 68,000 |
Fair Rent Determinations
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many determinations of fair rent under the Rent Act 1965 there have been up to the latest convenient date in Greater London and England and Wales, respectively; what proportion of the total number of tenancies subject to regulation these figures are estimated to represent; whether he is satisfied with the rate of progress being made; and if he will make a statement.
Up to and including 8th December, 1967, the number of applications for registration of fair rents determined by rent officers in Greater London and in England and Wales was 26,511 and 55,119 respectively. These numbers represent, in relation to each area, a little less than 10 per cent. of the estimated number of regulated tenancies.My right hon. Friend is considering further publicity to encourage more people to make good use of the rent regulation machinery.
Council Houses (Exchequersubsidy)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will estimate the amount of Exchequer subsidies for local authority housing in 1967–68 and 1968–69, respectively.
The estimated total Exchequer housing subsidy payments to public authorities (including New Towns) in England and Wales in 1967–68 is about £99 million. The estimated total for 1968–69 will be published in the estimates in due course.
Controlled Tenancies
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will estimate the number of controlled tenancies in Greater London, and England and Wales, respectively, on the latest convenient date.
No recent information is available on the number of controlled tenancies, but projections based on previous estimates give the estimated number of controlled tenancies at the end of 1966 as 0·32 million in Greater London and 1·65 million in England and Wales.
Housing Trusts (Rent Increases)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he proposes to refer rent increases by housing trusts to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.
No. The reference to the National Board for Prices and Incomes relates to increases in the rents of local authority housing, and it is not proposed to extend the reference.
Local Government
Water Resources Act, 1963
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will give an assurance that he will introduce legislation on Section 27 of the Water Resources Act, 1963,
Yes.
Home Department
Mr Heywood(Treatment In Custody)
129.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish the findings of the inquiry into the treatment of Mr. D. J. Heywood while in custody.
In accordance with Section 49 of the Police Act, 1964, the Chief Constable of Cheshire has arranged for investigation, by a senior officer from another force, of the allegations concerning Mr. Heywood's treatment while in police custody. I shall write to the hon. Member when the results of the investigation are available.
Dangerous Drugs Act, 1967
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the recent cases of doctors over-prescribing dangerous drugs to drug addicts, he will expedite the introduction of regulations under Section 1 of the Dangerous Drugs Act, 1967 laying down the conditions for granting of licences to doctors authorising them to prescribe such drugs.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to a Question by the right hon. Member for Ashford (Mr. Deedes) on 11th December.—[Vol. 756, c. 31–32.]
Police Forces, Yorkshire(Amalgamation)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has considered the alternative proposals for police amalgamation in North and East Yorkshire put to him by the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough. East and other hon. Members for constituencies in the area; and whether he will ma (e a statement.
Yes. After considering the reports of the two inquiries, and the representations made to me, I have decided to accept the proposal made by the police authorities for the North Riding, East Riding and York for the voluntary amalgamation of their areas for police purposes. I do not intend to proceed with proposals that Teesside or Kingston-upon-Hull should be amalgamated with neighbouring areas.
Assizes And Quarter Sessions(Royal Commission)
asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement about the progress made by the Royal Commission on Assizes and Quarter Sessions.
Yes. I am informed that the Royal Commission have now received the greater part of their evidence. They feel, however, that before they decide on their recommendations as to the administration of justice at Assizes and at Quarter Sessions outside London they ought to be in a position to consider the effect these might have on the Courts in Greater London and also on the County Courts, and have asked that their terms of reference be extended to enable them to do so. I have therefore recommended to The Queen that the Commission's Terms of Reference should be revised and Her Majesty has been pleased to approve that they be amended as follows:
"To inquire into the present arrangements for the administration of justice at Assizes and at Quarter Sessions outside Greater London; to report what reforms should be made for the more convenient, economic and efficient disposal of the civil and criminal business at present dealt with by those courts and to consider and report on the effect these will have on the High Court, the Central Criminal Court, the Courts of Quarter Sessions in Greater London and the County Courts throughout England and Wales."
Commonwealth Affairs
North Borneo And Sarawak(General Service Medals)
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what arrangements he has made for the award of the General Service Medal (Army and Royal Air Force) with a clasp, Brunei, and the General Service Medal, 1962, with a clasp, Borneo, to members of the North Borneo and Sarawak police forces.
The Command Papers relevant to these Medals have been amended to render eligible for them those persons in the North Borneo and Sarawak Police Forces who fulfilled certain conditions and who had taken part in operations in the territories concerned prior to 16th September, 1963, the date of the establishment of Malaysia. The cost of the Medals will be in the region of £11,000 and the House will be asked to approve a supplementary estimate in due course.
Foreign Enlistment Act
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will take steps to extend the Foreign Enlistment Act to mercenaries in Commonwealth countries.
I do not consider that this would be a suitable method of dealing with the problem.
St Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla(Aid)
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs, in view of the fact that in recent months an authoritarian form of Government has arisen in the State of St. Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla, what steps Her Majesty's Government will take regarding the continued economic subsidy to this State and Her Majesty's Government's responsibility for its overseas representation.
Our aid to St. Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla is related to the economic and social needs of the State as a whole and we shall of course continue to keep this under review in the light of all relevant considerations.The West Indies Act, 1967, lays the responsibility for the external affairs of the State on Her Majesty's Government. We shall continue therefore to discharge this responsibility.
Commonwealth Sanctions Committee
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the results of the latest meeting of the Commonwealth Sanctions Committee.
I have nothing to add to the communiqué issued to the Press after the last meeting on 13th December.The proceedings of the Committee are confidential.
Economic Affairs
Sunderland (Minister's Visit)
asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs whether he will make a further statement on the action he has taken pursuant to the visit of the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster to Sunderland.
As my right hon. Friend has already been informed, the Board of Trade are considering the acquisition of land at Pennywell for industrial development. As regards the other matters raised during my visit, I cannot add to the reply I gave him on 16th November.—[Vol. 754, c. 621–2]
Education And Science
British Museum Library
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement on his policy with regard to the separate units of the British Museum Library.
Final decisions about our national libraries, including the British Museum Library, must await the recommendations of the Dainton Cornmittee, which will be based on a study of users' needs. Reports that it is the Government's aim to break up the collections are entirely without foundation.
There will be consultations between the Government and the institutions and others concerned about the Committee's recommendations. Subject to what may emerge from the report and these consultations, there are some obvious advantages in uniting those parts of the library now separated from each other. Decisions on the number of books to be stored in central London must also await the Committee's report.
Greece
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether it is now the intention of Her Majesty's Government to recognise the present Government of Greece.
I have nothing to add to what I told my hon. Friend the Member for Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heller) on 19th December.—[Vol. 756, c. 377–8.]
Gibraltar
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what new proposals he will place before the Spanish Government in view of the decision of the United Nations Committee on the recent referendum held in Gibraltar.
None.
Peking (Mr Grey)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what action he is taking to secure the release from house detention of Anthony Grey, Reuter's correspondent in Peking; and if he will make a statement.
Mr. Grey was placed under house arrest on 23rd July. No one has been permitted to visit him and since 18th August all communication with him by telephone has been cut off. However I have no reason to believe that he has been harmed physically.Repeated attempts have been made both in London and in Peking to secure consular access and to discover what charges, if any, have been made against Mr. Grey. I regret to say that these have all so far been unsuccessful.
Hospitals
Form Ec10 Hp (Retail Chemists)
asked the Minister of Health what was the additional cost, during the latest 12-month period for which figures are available, of using E.C.10 H.P.s for the dispensing of hospital prescriptions by retail chemists due to the shortage of pharmacists in the hospital service.
The total payment to retail chemists in England and Wales during 1966–67 in respect of prescriptions on E.C.10 H.P. was just over £1½ million of which nearly £1·2 million was reimbursement of the supply cost of the drugs and their containers, and remainder being payment for the chemists' costs and services in dispensing. I cannot judge what net saving there might have been to the National Health Service had the prescriptions been dispensed in hospital pharmacies. In some cases it would be less economical for the hospital to dispense.
Pharmaceutical Service
asked the Minister of Health (1) what steps is he taking to expedite the inquiry into hospital pharmaceutical services which was a condition of the revised salary scales for pharmacists recently agreed by Committee C of the Pharmaceutical Whitley Council;(2) what is the shortage of qualified pharmacists in hospitals nationally, in teaching hospitals, and in the South-East Metropolitan Region hospitals, respectively.
I would refer my hon. Friend to my replies to the hon. Members for Buckinghamshire, South (Mr. Ronald Bell) and for Beckenham (Mr. Goodhart) on 11th December. 1967. —[Vol. 756, c. 25.]
Hospital Treatment (Personalcase)
asked the Minister of Health what consideration he has given to the correspondence sent to him on 20th and 28th November by the hon. Member for Wellingborough, concerning Mr. David Smith, New England Farm, Hargrave, relating to his treatment in hospital: and what conclusions he has reached.
The correspondence relates to treatment given in the summer of 1966. I understand that the complaints were investigated by the Oxford Regional Hospital Board in September, 1966, and that Mr. Smith was then satisfied with the explanations given to him. I see no reason to re-open the matter, but I will write to the hon. Member.
Wireless And Television
Radio 2 (Scotland)
asked the Postmaster-General whether, to combat the widespread dissatisfaction in Scotland over the reception of Radio Two, he will agree to a switch in frequencies in Scotland between Radio One and Radio Two, so as to enable listeners with medium wave sets to have good reception of Radio Two which is presently unavailable in many parts of Scotland.
No. The transmissions of Radio 2 on 1500 metres attain greater coverage overall than those of Radio 1 on 247 metres. Moreover, the new programme pattern has resulted in a marked increase in the amount of listening, and so borne out the expectation that it would provide a wider range of choice for listeners in general. Radio 2 is, of course, available virtually everywhere on V.H.F.
asked the Postmaster-General what plans there are to increase the power of the Droitwich transmitter so as to ensure good reception of Radio Two in Scotland.
None. The B.B.C.'s Droitwich 1500 metres transmitter already radiates at 400 kW, its maximum authorised power under international agreement. It has always done so during the hours of darkness. During daylight hours the transmitter previously operated at 200 kW. The daytime power was doubled when the new programme pattern took effect.
Local Broadcasting Stations
asked the Postmaster-General, how many local broadcasting stations are scheduled for establishment by March, 1968; what are the estimated capital and running costs of each station; and how many will be located in Scotland.
The number of stations to which the experiment is limited is eight. Of these, three stations are already broadcasting and three more will be established by March, 1968. The B.B.C. tell me that the capital cost per station will be between £30,000 and £35,000 and the annual running costs about £55,000. For the Merseyside station, with a somewhat greater coverage area, the annual cost is estimated at about £64,000.As I told the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor) on 20th July, 1967, the prospect of local support was not enough to justify a station in Scotland to the exclusion of other localities.—[Vol. 750, c.
306.]
Light Programme (Surveys)
asked the Postmaster-General what public opinion survey he conducted in Scotland to ascertain the wishes of licence holders before the replacement of the Light Programme on medium wave frequencies by Radio One; and whether he will publish the results of such survey.
None, whether in Scotland or elsewhere. The case for making the change was set out in the White Paper on Broadcasting (Cmnd. 3169) published in December, 1966.
asked the Postmaster-General what technical surveys were carried out of reception of the Light Programme on the long wave frequency in Scotland before the decision was taken to remove the Light Programme from medium wave frequencies; if he will publish the results of such surveys; and whether the results were taken into consideration.
The Light Programme had, of course, always been transmitted on 1500 metres, so that many years of experience of the coverage attained on this wavelength were available. This information was fully taken into consideration; and no new surveys were undertaken.
Ministry Of Labour
Redundancy Payments
asked the Minister of Labour if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the monthly totals of payments so far made in the South-East Region under the Redundancy Payments Act.
Yes. Following is the information:
| PAYMENTS MADE UNDER THE REDUNDANCY PAYMENTS ACT IN THE LONDON AND SOUTH EASTERN REGION | |||
| (to the nearest £) | |||
| Month | Payments from the Redundancy Fund (under Sections 30 and 32 of the Act) | Payments by employers (exclusive of Rebate) | Total |
| £ | £ | £ | |
| 1965 | |||
| December | 21,260 | 7,412 | 28,672 |
| 1966 | |||
| January | 118,411 | 39,791 | 158,202 |
| February | 211,590 | 79,168 | 290,758 |
| March | 391,897 | 129,888 | 521,785 |
| April | 298,526 | 127,565 | 426,091 |
| May | 453,714 | 137,985 | 591,699 |
| June | 442,949 | 148,635 | 591,584 |
| July | 398,811 | 137,018 | 535,829 |
| August | 544,299 | 161,972 | 706,271 |
| September | 472,690 | 161,540 | 634,230 |
| October | 582,627 | 182,861 | 765,488 |
| November | 553,396 | 202,405 | 755,801 |
| December | 708,079 | 263,434 | 971,513 |
| 1967 | |||
| January | 814,070 | 340,855 | 1,154,925 |
| February | 913,818 | 244,125 | 1,157,943 |
| March | 662,247 | 218,394 | 880,641 |
| April | 839,471 | 324,776 | 1,164,247 |
| May | 858,684 | 227,402 | 1,086,086 |
| June | 583,399 | 199,819 | 783,218 |
| July | 791,201 | 230,880 | 1,022,081 |
| August | 947,978 | 372,745 | 1,320,723 |
| September | 812,088 | 245,454 | 1,057,542 |
| October | 803,835 | 261,544 | 1,065,379 |
| November | 968,144 | 318,530 | 1,286,674 |
asked the Minister of Labour how many recipients of payments under the Redundancy Payments Act are known to have been unemployed one week after the termination of their previous employment, and how many after one month.
I regret that the information is not available.
Unemployment
asked the Minister of Labour what are the numbers of men and of women unemployed and the percentage unemployment rate for the most recent convenient date and for the same date in each of the previous five years in the Brechin, Montrose, Stone- haven and Banchory employment exchange area.
| NUMBERS OF MEN, WOMEN AND TOTAL (INCLUDING BOYS AND GIRLS) REGISTERED AS UUNEMPLOYED AND PERCENTAGE RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE AREAS COVERED BY THE BRECHIN, MONTROSE STONEHAVEN AND BANCHORY EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES | |||||||
| Brechin | |||||||
| Men | Women | Total, including boys and girls | Percentage rate | ||||
| 11th December, 1967 | … | … | … | 107 | 39 | 153 | 3·7 |
| 12th December, 1966 | … | … | … | 91 | 37 | 144 | 3·5 |
| 8th December, 1965 | … | … | … | 69 | 28 | 110 | 2·6 |
| 9th December, 1964 | … | … | … | 61 | 17 | 92 | 2·2 |
| 11th December, 1963 | … | … | … | 67 | 26 | 110 | 2·5 |
| 12th December, 1962 | … | … | … | 63 | 25 | 101 | 2·3 |
| Montrose | |||||||
| Men | Women | Total, including boys and girls | Percentage rate | ||||
| 11th December, 1967 | … | … | … | 249 | 69 | 340 | 4·8 |
| 12th December, 1966 | … | … | … | 214 | 46 | 291 | 4·1 |
| 8th December, 1965 | … | … | … | 196 | 43 | 268 | 3·7 |
| 9th December, 1964 | … | … | … | 151 | 41 | 219 | 2·8 |
| 11th December, 1963 | … | … | … | 234 | 46 | 318 | 4·1 |
| 12th December, 1962 | … | … | … | 181 | 27 | 229 | 3·1 |
| Stonehaven | |||||||
| Men | Women | Total, including boys and girls | Percentage rate* | ||||
| 11th December, 1967 | … | … | … | 70 | 19 | 92 | 2·3 |
| 12th December, 1966 | … | … | … | 70 | 15 | 88 | 2·3 |
| 8th December, 1965 | … | … | … | 51 | 15 | 68 | 2·3 |
| 9th December, 1964 | … | … | … | 47 | 10 | 65 | 2·7 |
| 11th December, 1963 | … | … | … | 47 | 11 | 67 | 3·2 |
| 12th December, 1962 | … | … | … | 51 | 6 | 60 | 3·7 |
| Banchory | |||||||
| Men | Women | Total, including boys and girls | Percentage rate | ||||
| 11th December, 1967 | … | … | … | 98 | 51 | 156 | 5·4 |
| 12th December, 1966 | … | … | … | 90 | 37 | 138 | 4·8 |
| 8th December, 1965 | … | … | … | 112 | 34 | 156 | 5·3 |
| 9th December, 1964 | … | … | … | 77 | 36 | 123 | 3·9 |
| 11th December, 1963 | … | … | … | 60 | 24 | 95 | 3·0 |
| 12th December, 1962 | … | … | … | 58 | 24 | 89 | 2·5 |
| * Stonehaven forms part of the Aberdeen travel-to-work area which includes Aberdeen, Inverurie and Stonehaven. Percentage rates can be calculated for the area as a whole but not separately for its constituent parts. | |||||||
Raf Stations, Harrow(Redundant Workers)
asked the Minister of Labour what steps he is taking to find fresh employment for people who will lose their employment as a result of changes at Royal Air Force stations in the constituency of the hon. Member for Harrow, East; and whether he will make a statement.
I understand that reoganisation will lead to a reduction by May, 1968 of about 80 civilian posts at two R.A.F. Stations in the Harrow, East constituency. This will be resolved partly by wastage and partly by transfer to other vacancies. Those who are discharged will be given all possible assistance in finding other jobs. I do not expect this will be difficult in most cases.
Following is the information:
Ministry Of Power
Gas Explosion (Congresbury)
asked the Minister of Power whether he will convene an inquiry into the explosion at Congresbury, Somerset, on 17th December, in which one person was killed and another seriously injured, with special regard to the adequacy of safety regulations in gas installations; whether the regulations were adhered to in this case; and whether, without prejudicing the inquiry, he will ensure that adequate compensation is paid to the bereaved and in respect of damage to property.
The South Western Gas Board is conducting an urgent inquiry into the causes of this tragic accident and the hon. Member will not expect me to comment on the points he raises while the inquiry is proceeding. In the meantime I wish to express my deepest sympathy with the relatives of Mrs. Waring who was killed by the explosion and with those injured. I should also like to pay tribute to the police and fire services for their prompt action.
Public Building Andworks
Public Works Expenditure(Nottinghamshire And Newark)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works of the sum of £800,000 allocated to Sheffield and the surrounding region for additional public works before 30th March, 1968, how much is allocated to Nottinghamshire and Newark, respectively, and how it will be shared between educational, health, road and other projects.
It is not possible to relate the additional sums of money for public works this winter allocated to Nottinghamshire and Newark, to the figure of £800,000 mentioned in the Question.The figures are as follows:—
| Nottinghamshire (including Newark) | Newark | |
| £ | £ | |
| M.O.H. | 418,000 | 11,400 |
| D.E.S. | 57,000 | — |
| M.O.T. | 169,000 | 6,500 |
| M.P.B.W. | 38,000 | 16,500 |
| Totals | £682,000 | £34,400 |
New Knightsbridge Barracks(Cost)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is the latest estimated cost of the new Knightsbridge Barracks.
About £3·4 million.
Westminster Hall(Plaque To Sir Thomas More)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what further progress has been made on the proposal to place a plaque in Westminster Hall to commemorate the trial of Sir Thomas More.
Those who have authority over Westminster Hall have expressed their agreement with this proposal, and consultations are taking place about the site and precise wording of the plaque. As soon as these have been decided, I will arrange for the plaque to be made and installed, and would expect this to be done by the end of February, 1968.
Technology
American Aircraft And Aerospaceproducts (Imports)
asked the Minister of Technology what was the value of British imports of American aircraft and aerospace products in the first 10 months of this year, or to a convenient date, compared with our exports to the United States of America in the same period; and what action is being taken to increase our exports.
Up to October this year we imported £64,541,000 of aircraft, engines, guided weapons and spare parts from the U.S.A. Our corresponding exports to the U.S.A. over the same period were £37,645,000. The export prospects of the aerospace industry should be anhanced as a consequence of devaluation. The Government is assisting the activities of United Kingdom manufacturers in the American market through commercial channels and other contacts with the United States Administration, and we are in close touch with our firms about export opportunities. We are pursuing the arrangements under which the United States Government has undertaken to offset the dollar costs of our purchases of military equipment. More generally, a Procurement Committee has been established under the British National Export Council and the C.B.I. with the object of securing orders within the aerospace and avionics fields.
Society Of British Aerospacecompanies (Memorandum)
asked the Minister of Technology if he has considered the recent memorandum sent to him by the Society of British Aerospace Companies on aerospace policy; and what action he proposes to take as a result.
The memorandum is a useful conspectus of the aircraft scene presented from the point of view of the industry. The contents will be carefully taken into account in the coming months by the Government in considering those aircraft matters which it falls to us to decide.
National Finance
Income Tax (Mortgage Interest)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the amount of Income Tax relief on mortgage interest for private dwellings in 1967–68 and 1968–69, respectively.
About £180 million for 1967–68. It is too early to make an estimate for 1968–69.
Tax Repayments (Charities)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total cost to the revenue of repayments of tax made to charities in connection with seven-year covenants.
About £14 million in 1966–67.
Surtax (Donations To Charities)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated saving from the termination of the provision by which donations to charities under seven-year covenants were allowed as deductions for Surtax.
About £2 million per annum at the current level of donations.
Devaluation (London Cocoamerchants)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to alleviate the plight of London cocoa merchants trading with Nigeria, many of whom now face serious losses owing to devaluation.
I have nothing to add to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Liverpool, Wavertree (Mr. Tilney) on 19th December.—[Vol. 756, c. 348.]
Wales
University Of Wales(Economic Information)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) whether he will take steps to commission the Economics Department of the University College of Wales, Aberystwyth, to bring up to date the work on the Structure of the Welsh Economy published in September, 1966; and whether he will take steps to enlarge the scope of their work;(2) whether he will commission special studies in the economic departments of the various colleges of the University of Wales with a view to increasing the economic intelligence available on Wales.
A substantial and growing amount of information on the Welsh economy is already available to the Welsh Office, but if it proves necessary to commission further research in the particular field mentioned by the hon. and learned Member, I shall certainly consider asking those best qualified in the University of \Vales to carry it out.I am sure the colleges will also take their own initiatives in keeping their research work up-to-date.
Economic Forecasting (Information)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what information is available to his Department for the purposes of economic forecasting techniques in Wales.
The Welsh Office has at its disposal the full range of information available to the Government for economic forecasting.